you said mines
#outlaw
slate forge
We should enchant depths on our offhand is we’re swapping off nightfall weapon for bosses?
silent marsh
yy
vivid vessel
silent marsh
my route kekw
gaunt phoenix
We should enchant depths on our offhand is we’re swapping off nightfall weapon f...
sure
silent marsh
tbh not even that many shit pulls
without dk
some pulls in dfc, like caster on first boss etc
rookery*
vivid vessel
its only one pull in flood that you cant do
gaunt phoenix
8
red zinc
nuh uh
red zinc
what buffs
tulip jewel
maybe for triple outlaw the tank will tank candle king away from wax statues 
red zinc
Lowkey kind of got the gist of outlaw again, just need to get a supercharger tracker for ks
red zinc
I know how long my ks lasts but forget about supercharger and end up killing myself
latent oak
even better when u lag on the supercharged ks
vivid vessel
2 wars from china actually
3 wars
before the squish
more wars than druid actually
who said wars were struggling to tank
that sounds fake
silent marsh
id be so higher if i didnt deplete 18 rook by 40 sec
cuz
druid dies and release
last area
vivid vessel
chinese comps hit different ngl
tulip jewel
chads
vivid vessel
so weird
silent marsh
they are pretty good dmg wise now
silent marsh
ret instead of arcane mage kekw
vivid vessel
im not convinced by ret ng l
silent marsh
bro have u seen how much dmg divine storm does
silent marsh
its like 16% of their dmg
vivid vessel
@tulip jewel you there
silent marsh
if they spam it
tulip jewel
yeye
frail veldt
im not convinced by ret ng l
I feel like ret is insane
silent marsh
and do decent AOE
vivid vessel
i saw you were using somehting to translate blibli no ?
frail veldt
It has no weakness
silent marsh
if u dont pad
tulip jewel
ya
frail veldt
And can straight up save your run too with it's defensives
red zinc
Yes but you are giving ret players rio by inviting them
silent marsh
i think ret can do a lot of prio and not loose aoe atm idk
red zinc
Which is a war crime
frail veldt
What is ret bad at
tulip jewel
you can auto translate with most browsers these days
silent marsh
and they getting buff on st
vivid vessel
you can auto translate with most browsers these days
mine isnt id k
silent marsh
u can play arbi
tulip jewel
what you use?
tulip jewel
betttt
fallen knot
i just did my first outlaw key of the season with ks
every time i pressed it i thought i was 100% going to die
runic bough
Alright guys I took the ring
fallen knot
so fun
runic bough
Since most people voted for it
tulip jewel
dont worry, after about 100 hours your heartrate won't be as high
runic bough
And I can use it for multi specs
vivid vessel
chinese captcha hit different
hardy thicket
It has no weakness
Weakness is its ret
tulip jewel
ye you don't need to do the 60 questions for quality
cinder relic
China is more powerful than NA, NA is just a bunch of meta cuck sheep
tulip jewel
preach
tulip jewel
i have an 18 brew, where's the third outlaw
latent oak
can someone in eu start hosting triple outlaw keys in the 14-16 range ty
vivid vessel
bro the sms thing isnt working
tulip jewel
it messages on whatsapp @vivid vessel
runic bough
I'm gonna host triple outlaw tonight around 830pm PST. I think I got an 11 from vault. (NA servers) Got a guild healer so far. Lmk if interested.
NA servers
vivid vessel
nvm it worked
tulip jewel
pog
tulip jewel
ya
latent oak
can u link video?
tulip jewel
decimal point move
fossil lintel
They use 10k base usually
tulip jewel
10.15 ye
vivid vessel
okok
tulip jewel
at least that's what i thought
tight kernel
Chinese cooking
tulip jewel
haha ye
tight kernel
Also. Word on the street is they just whale out and buy tons of vip funnel runs so they out gear other regions by tons of ilvl
tulip jewel
doesn't play KiR
fossil lintel
Where are you watching this?
cedar kernel
how do you read these btw
uh its total so the 亿 means 100M
vivid vessel
vapid blaze
yeah she plays ho
cedar kernel
she was playing KIR at first bc she feels uncomfort
but after she want to push up she changed
vapid blaze
maybe zac needs to give her the push
fossil lintel
This thing wants me to install their video player on my phone to watch
tulip jewel
how else they gonna harvest ur data
cedar kernel
the time when i playing HO i told her about these, but after she said its uncomfort and werid to play then i didnt focus on that much
vivid vessel
wait
they are using a kick weak aura
no way man
why is no one actualyl doing something like this for m+
tulip jewel
because at MDI level you always get the same ones anyways
red zinc
why is no one actualyl doing something like this for m+
Everyone would need it
tulip jewel
but yeh
vivid vessel
Everyone would need it
so what lol
red zinc
Too hard to convince people to use it
vivid vessel
not really lol
tulip jewel
there's an aoe stops order one
red zinc
And when everyone doesnt use it its useless
tulip jewel
it's pre good
vivid vessel
for high keys if its a good one everyone would
vapid blaze
its also insane if you play with similar people on the regular
blizzard should add one baseline 🙂
fossil lintel
How would you want it to work Zac?
jolly geyser
aoe kidney for rogue
latent oak
good morning @cedar kernel 👋
jolly geyser
runic bough
Okay guys I will be posting this throughout the day.
I'm gonna host triple outlaw tonight around 830pm PST. I think I got an 11 from vault. (NA servers) Got a guild healer so far (reliable). Lmk if interested.
Need 2 outlaws.
jolly geyser
gn bac
cedar kernel
latent oak
bac>zac
red zinc
bac>pac
cedar kernel
thats the tru
latent oak
2bac
vivid vessel
How would you want it to work Zac?
everyone is using the m+ mob markers already right, so how i would want it to work is that once a mob is marked in a pack a player is attrib to it instantly, in the middle of you screen you would have a message like > you are kicking blue, obviously it would be smart and always attrib same people on same marker right, and then it would simply do a kick rotation into aoe stops into kciks again
tulip jewel
yeh with smarts for reassigning backups etc
vivid vessel
on a micro level it would work the same way than the raid one for kicks
frail rover
!fuu
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tulip jewel
aoe stops rotation weakaura is good
vivid vessel
like you get an announce when you are next, and when you need to kick, with name on top of plate/plate glowing or whatever
runic bough
It seems pretty crazy the amount of interrupts needed for high keys, im starting to watch them now.
vivid vessel
and then aoe stop rotation thing that works in tandem with the kcik thing right
tulip jewel
It seems pretty crazy the amount of interrupts needed for high keys, im starting...
it's pretty chill this season
vivid vessel
when kicks are done you have ccs that starts to be called
cedar kernel
i was trying to convince 苏格 to stream on Twitch but it seems like we cant receive phone code from the server then gg
vivid vessel
it's pretty chill this season
nah i disagree
legit worse than s1
rookery is wild
brew idk
i still dont understand what im supposoied to kick in brew
proven ocean
i was trying to convince 苏格 to stream on Twitch but it seems like we cant receiv...
Who the hell is that cuh
cedar kernel
no clue about the reason but we could received it in history
proven ocean
vivid vessel
there is 10 casts on my screen
vivid vessel
no idea what im doing
cedar kernel
like my acc cant login anymore
vivid vessel
huge
gaunt phoenix
:cuh:
cedar kernel
zeross u will become pig
tulip jewel
other than rookery/priory I feel like there's less bolts
proven ocean
proven ocean
zeross u will become pig
?????
cedar kernel
proven ocean
Wtf bac
gaunt phoenix
zeross u will become pig
proven ocean
vivid vessel
like its not doable in pugs without having kicks go trough perma idk
tulip jewel
ye tru, guess i've never done anything risky in ML yet since haven't done high enough
latent oak
Bac: zeross u will become pig
jolly geyser
runic bough
We need a cuh emote
vivid vessel
i have that when im targeted by spells
runic bough
cedar kernel
we send the same sentence in a second
runic bough
could we have cuh in our channel emote
vivid vessel
no idea what hers even means
runic bough
Bac we said same thing lol
cedar kernel
no idea what hers even means
iirc its cp refund in bte
tulip jewel
ace and max cp
red zinc
Last season was bolt central
tulip jewel
yeah
runic bough
@vivid vessel or @proven ocean
We should start hosting triple outlaw keys every Tuesday?
I'll host NA You guys host EU.
tulip jewel
every day
rotund zodiac
tulip jewel
gngn
runic bough
What region bac?
cedar kernel
wdym
runic bough
Na or Eu?
cedar kernel
China
cedar kernel
i learn everything in rogue from RH
runic bough
tulip jewel
cedar kernel
no way i am a spy bro
wicked obsidian
Is it true that in China Outlaw always has the best Rtb rolls because of their gambling regulations? Or is it fake news
cedar kernel
💀
tulip jewel
kidding!
cedar kernel
Is it true that in China Outlaw always has the best Rtb rolls because of their g...
fake
runic bough
Okay have gn Bac
cedar kernel
tulip jewel
suge's spy
vivid vessel
i dont get this boss
like
do ytou just die if the game decide to spawn a blade on you
vivid vessel
it confuses me how thats good boss design
tulip jewel
it's absolutely cooked
like
have you seen it flower
into spawning a blade ON flower
omg
vivid vessel
this boss is prolly one of the worse designed boss of m+ all together
and i say that as a guy that loves dodging shit
glass mortar
crazy how every boss in a key
can be so unfun
even first boss is meh
not toxic i guess
all 3 of the other bosses tho
tulip jewel
last boss rookery rocks spawning in the center of puddles is TOXIC af too
runic bough
@rotund zodiac will you be on for outlaw key 830pst? Lmk
tulip jewel
last boss rookery rocks spawning in the center of puddles is TOXIC af too
how many keys have been depleted to this
lusty sparrow
playing pres evoker on that rookery boss will be my 13th reason
glass mortar
LOL my friends had me heal a 10 on my ratvoker 2 weeks ago
rotund zodiac
<@192878270042079234> will you be on for outlaw key 830pst? Lmk
pm or am
glass mortar
havent done a key since
was an mm hunter and a warlock
standing 160 yards apart
on either side of the boss
lusty sparrow
yeah
glass mortar
i couldnt heal them both at the same time even once
vivid vessel
oh i just realized
glass mortar
☠️
lusty sparrow
I dont play dev at all but if the key is rookery then that changes
vivid vessel
that they removed the guy that was stunning us on first boss top
lusty sparrow
oh yeah the blood elf
lusty sparrow
the completely random blood elff
runic bough
lyric saffron
!wa
ornate heathBOT
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Devlin
Utilities:
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Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
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RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
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lusty sparrow
Im est but I wake up at 10pm anyways
keen belfry
im cst
slate plaza
runic bough
I got guild healer just need 2 more outlaws and tank
gaunt phoenix
if i read about triple outlaw one more time
runic bough
Its just a for fun event solo
gaunt phoenix
no !
runic bough
gaunt phoenix
gaunt phoenix
you can im just a hater
twilit apex
Hello friends could use some help with junko trinket whens the best time to use the trinket?
i was looking through some logs i used mine three times and most people are getting twelve uses out of it on a five minute fight
gaunt phoenix
slamming it vs holding it is the same
except for when you can hold it for vulnerability windows
twilit apex
maybe its a log thing?
gaunt phoenix
No the damage is just the same
whether you use it 30 times at 1 stack or 1 time at 30 stacks
frank finch
so where d owe get the new head enchant?
runic bough
Is it like the sprint trinket that a WA would be helpful for casting?
tranquil hemlock
guys i have an idea
gaunt phoenix
from the new horrific visions on the 20th
tranquil hemlock
tripel outlaw babyyyy
latent belfry
Guys we can't use the channel for outlaw keys
there's a channel?
runic bough
there's a channel?
Interested?
latent belfry
perhaps
runic bough
Okay guys I will be posting this throughout the day. Starting new event for outlaws in NA Region.
***Outlaw Tuesdays
I'm gonna host triple outlaw tonight around 830pm PST. I think I got an 11 from vault. (NA servers)*** Got a guild healer so far (reliable). Lmk if interested.
Need 2 outlaws.
twilit apex
No the damage is just the same
Cool thanks for the help just seems like everyone using it more often gets more damage then when you cast less
gaunt phoenix
there shouldnt be a difference unless you forget to expend your stacks at the end of the fight
twilit apex
there shouldnt be a difference unless you forget to expend your stacks at the en...
True good point i might have missed a cast
twilit apex
we just killed sprocket so i was wondering maybe i used it poorly
runic bough
Hmm yeah you would have to save trinkets for them
Unless 90 second trinkets
Maybe use on pull and ready by intermission
hollow temple
zac is it valid that fire mage flames me for bricking rook 16 because "Outlaw has no burst if you would have played Sub you could rape the boss in dps phase"?
0 deaths and more overall dps than him btw
just disc priest died there we lost the 15sec which we needed at the end
vivid vessel
what can you do tho
ye you can swap spec lol
but if you do that
might aswell sawp assa from start of key
then maybe swap dk
hollow temple
so assa all the way?
vivid vessel
runic bough
I do 3mil on 2 target boss fights like first boss on workshop
Single target sucks tho
red zinc
im still sad we never got to play with aoe kidney + oppressing roar combo
hollow temple
ST im at around 1.6-1.8
gaunt phoenix
st should be fine except when burst matters
red zinc
12s aoe stun wouldve been so lit
hollow temple
we have good sustained st but 0 burst
hollow temple
HO/KiR i go around 1.6-1.8
red zinc
shouldnt fate be higher than trickster
runic bough
Trickster is like 1.8 IF good rng
I donno my fate has been lower in single target
But trickster has lower lows
red zinc
oh wait nvm i remember now
runic bough
Literally no lows in fate rn
red zinc
wanted to use the argument of "everyones using it on the st fight" but pressing KS is impossible on sprocket
so probably trickster is just better 
remote pecan
trickster is better but FB on Mythic sprocket because well we have to.
copper radish
Will rogues ever experience a “4% overall damage increase” like DH just got or are we dead to blizz
gaunt phoenix
Will rogues ever experience a “4% overall damage increase” like DH just got or a...
Sub rogue needs this
runic bough
I be doing full rotation popping off on fate and the dmg just don't do anything
gaunt phoenix
outlaw and sin are fine
tranquil hemlock
i'm at 20m
copper radish
Outlaw needs fth DF season 1 nerf reverted in my eyes still lol
tranquil hemlock
no 🧢
gaunt phoenix
We just gained like 15% dps in keys lol from bugfixes
vapid blaze
feel like sub they dont want it to be turbo strong cause of cds
copper radish
We just gained like 15% dps in keys lol from bugfixes
Really? God damn haven’t been in keys after the first few weeks lol
runic bough
Bug fixes were huge for aoe
copper radish
Got that 2k and went to alts lol
vapid blaze
i legit think my aoe doubled in some pulls
like no joke
gaunt phoenix
Really? God damn haven’t been in keys after the first few weeks lol
Yeah blade flurry was trying to hit dead targets
for years
runic bough
Yeah it did
copper radish
i legit think my aoe doubled in some pulls
like no joke
Bout to blast outlaw when I get home 👀
runic bough
Aoe doubled for everyone
copper radish
Trickster gonna have me sweating lol
vapid blaze
i wonder
if they nerf pc again once we get a kurog like boss
and the cycle repeats itself
remote pecan
I be doing full rotation popping off on fate and the dmg just don't do anything
remember that outlaw variance is pretty insane as well
gaunt phoenix
which helped on big pulls generally but also helped precise cuts a lot
the fix i mean
copper radish
So we all rocking HO with no CTO and with PC in keys now?
gaunt phoenix
No not all
runic bough
We need a single target buff
runic bough
I feel like tank dmg in single target
red zinc
skill issue
runic bough
daring oxide
KS fix incoming soon
quaint wharf
vapid blaze
how big is the loss of macroing gs btw
vs manually pressing it
runic bough
!gs
daring oxide
Huge loss
gaunt phoenix
basically none
daring oxide
Good
runic bough
I'm going to play HO fate aoe tonight since I lost haste ring to mythic vers ring
daring oxide
Hmm I honestly think just get used to having it as a keybind
gaunt phoenix
as long as you have a nameplate thing to see which target it is on
vapid blaze
oh
thats a good idea
i dont have that
daring oxide
I'm going to play HO fate aoe tonight since I lost haste ring to mythic vers rin...
Playing fate under any circumstances in m+ is pure int
runic bough
Well I did very close to my trickster overall with it
glass mortar
a sign that u are underperforming quite a bit as trickster
but its ok
its certainly harder to pull off then fate in keys
latent oak
That is er
diagnostically interesting
daring oxide
diagnostically interesting
I malfunctioned
runic bough
I dont mind a few dmg loss and no ks.
runic bough
I'm not doing high keys yet. I want to learn sin for high keys prob since we are forced to reroll to do real aoe.
glass mortar
think u can probably play law in higher keys now
gaunt phoenix
nah that's super exaggerated
keen belfry
outlaw aoe is cracked rn
gaunt phoenix
unless you are literally bleeding edge pushing
keen belfry
yeah u cant WF keys as outlaw
runic bough
Outlaw aoe improved but we still not near 20mil like sin and other uncapped aoe is.
keen belfry
but u can do 18s for SURE
glass mortar
u dont need to do 20m on a pull to do top damage overall
haughty wigeon
That’s a big improvement compared to before
latent oak
Outlaw aoe improved but we still not near 20mil like sin and other uncapped aoe ...
even when outlaw was the best spec in the game
keen belfry
Outlaw aoe improved but we still not near 20mil like sin and other uncapped aoe ...
in huge pulls sure, but what about every other pull
latent oak
it still didnt do as hgih burst as other classes
glass mortar
ur never gunna be near a burst spec on a big pull
gaunt phoenix
Ok but sin doesnt 20 million every pull and you know this
daring oxide
20mil in a single pull yeah but outlaw is still cracked, it’s just not cutting edge broken bleeding butt
keen belfry
sup vai
runic bough
Yes I watched a sin last night and still did 14mil no cds. Just bleeds on pack.
keen belfry
would u ever tune into an awangawangaw 16 pugging stream
keen belfry
weapon
daring oxide
would u ever tune into an awangawangaw 16 pugging stream
Sure I’d love to watch
Link
warm remnant
is the other raidiant weapon any good? like the one that does shadow damage on auto attacks
keen belfry
ill try to strem during work today
winged inlet
how impectfull is Off hand for enha? i have vetaran and 675 crafted MH
daring oxide
I am EU boy so bed time in a few hours but will be down to watch some content when ya play
gaunt phoenix
for enhance?
winged inlet
ye
latent oak
cmon solo do u not have a bot command for enhancement sims
loud locust
My gear rn, worth crafting trinket? or not
I know there's bis ones in dungeons and stuff but what about for short-term, or would it be better crafting say, feet? at 645
glass mortar
im crafting a chest this week
finally giving in
gunna gain zero vers and like 700 haste
need to redo all my enchants and gems
daring oxide
My gear rn, worth crafting trinket? or not
Big jump up from what I saw earlier today
loud locust
Big jump up from what I saw earlier today
been farming bruh :)
keen belfry
skardyns outlaw rogue in s2
daring oxide
Could get quick free ilvls on ya isle ring
keen belfry
LFGG
latent oak
i crafted chest ages ago, but recently sims told me to use myth tier chest with myth crit vers legs
loud locust
Could get quick free ilvls on ya isle ring
Yeah gonna do it after this dungeon, playing with friend so that one can wait until after, but thanks for reminding me
daring oxide
Have ya done nightfall yet?
loud locust
What you think is worth crafting right now then? Assuming belt? or just sim it and see what highest dps increase is
daring oxide
If not check out Solo’s pin
loud locust
full lfr
daring oxide
And use the token to get the nightfall cudgel
loud locust
Sadly I used my token for the shoulders for 4set
runic bough
Your first craft should be wep or chest.
loud locust
and I got a hero weapon from the delve
gaunt phoenix
just do boots
loud locust
Your first craft should be wep or chest.
I have crafted multiple items
Including weapon with embelishment
gaunt phoenix
or are those already crafted boots
cedar kernel
hi brothers i am bac
runic bough
Agree with boots then
cedar kernel
loud locust
Sweet, appreciate it
runic bough
Yo Bac
gaunt phoenix
the alchemy trinket is not bad you will replace it soon though
while boots you wont replace
loud locust
With my weapon being hero tracked, is it still worth getting that weapon from it? or not
loud locust
the alchemy trinket is not bad you will replace it soon though
while boots you ...
Yeah i'll do boots then
cedar kernel
if u can get any Mythic raid wep then no
runic bough
Yes get the event weapon for keys
loud locust
Replace my hero one with it?
gaunt phoenix
even in raid it should beat hero weapon
loud locust
My hero one :( at least it's free crest upgrade, will have to get it tomorrow reset
Oh dang
glass mortar
bro what even is raid loot
theres 1 chest in the whole raid
and its haste mastery???
off gally???????????
gaunt phoenix
ye
glass mortar
who did this
gaunt phoenix
Idr a raid that has felt less rewarding than undermine
tidal hawk
there are 4 necks in the entire season and iirc 3 of them have mastery
gaunt phoenix
for outlaw
glass mortar
at least pvp necks make up for lack of jewlery
but no chests
ive been using a pvp chest since week 1
didnt even realize i was never gunna be able to replace it
until crafted
or getting the singular good chest in vault from dungeons
gaunt phoenix
well tier chest + regular shoulders should be about the same
runic bough
Outlaw crafts many gears never really have any good gears
glass mortar
tidal hawk
i tried the cudgel a bit against dummies and it does about ~1.5% of my damage for me, seems low in comparison to the pin, did they change it? i have 2x myth weaps pondering if it's worth swapping in keys
glass mortar
2 late for that unfort
no that sounds about right, ur only getting 5 targets stacked to proc it on on dummies it scales nicely with increased target counts
tidal hawk
ah it's not capped?
glass mortar
well it can hit every target once per combat reset
gaunt phoenix
its "capped" but it procs on every target
glass mortar
so as long as u wiggle around a little, yea bf will make it hit every target once per vanish
vapid blaze
its split damage
but it still does more with more targets cause it procs off all targets
tidal hawk
ooh okay, i get it, thanks
glass mortar
it wqas 10% for me on the first pull of rookery final room
vapid blaze
how correctly is it implemented in sim
glass mortar
the one with like 20 civilians and 3 elites
gaunt phoenix
its not implemented
vapid blaze
so i should sim it
and then compare it how much it actually did and kinda napkin math it
gaunt phoenix
ye you can sim it and add +2.5% or so
vapid blaze
ill try and see how it performs vs my crafted mainhand
even in sim its equal to my crafted dagger wich is kinda weird
glass mortar
oh values in general r fairly low over ilvl
for me, unimplemented, the 658 weapon with radiant enchant is ~3% worse in pure ST then my 678 depths fist weapon
would probably be closer to 4-5% if i had a mugzee oh
vapid blaze
its equal in dsclice to my crafted embelished dagger at 675
glass mortar
thats abit odd...
yea
unless u have no haste on the dagger and ur profile desperatly needs haste
glass mortar
but even then its only 300
vapid blaze
actually embelishment was fixed
gaunt phoenix
raw difference should be like this
glass mortar
ok well, dont sim it at the same time as swapping 10 different gems at the same time
ye
still surprised how low it is tho
vapid blaze
im dumb
vapid blaze
disgard
im just really fking stupid
runic bough
Solo how often can I post the outlaw key ad for tonight?
gaunt phoenix
nah its fine lol
vapid blaze
ill sim it again when i recrafted weapons to not have embelish
tropic zephyr
I'm not doing high keys yet. I want to learn sin for high keys prob since we are...
Own your spec, go law and blast make us proud
runic bough
Well you also have to play ks
And I'm pretty fed up with ks
Fate is doing good dmg still in low keys
And gear stacking
runic bough
What is the point
marble sorrel
Always when i open this discord i see Ryu crying about ks what is this
runic bough
You shouldn't be handicapped by an ability
For those who just tuned into outlaw
Okay guys I will be posting this throughout the day. Starting new event for Tuesdays possibly..
***Outlaw Tuesdays
I'm gonna host triple outlaw tonight around 830pm PST. I think I got an 11 from vault. (NA servers)*** Got a guild healer so far (reliable). Lmk if interested.
Need 2 outlaws.
cold jewel
triple outlaw (fatebound only)
runic bough
You can play whatever
mighty pivot
GSW FB only
runic bough
fossil lintel
I'll join you ryukage
glass mortar
oh
fossil lintel
Just came back to the game a couple days ago, rocking season 1 tier
runic bough
Just came back to the game a couple days ago, rocking season 1 tier
I will lower it to 10 but bro are u what ilvl lol
wicked obsidian
Don't know why you complaining. To design a whole hero tree spec around an ability what you can't use with some raid encounters or m+ dungeons is totally fine. You still can do delves with it. I guess horrible visions as far as i can remember them from BFA will be already interesting with KS 
hybrid crown
Go do the zone quest line you get a free 658 crafted item crest
runic bough
Umm yeah try to gear up maybe next week you can come
fossil lintel
Sheesh, so picky 😢
glass mortar
as long as ur gaming 640 is more then enough for 10s
we were doing 10s at 639 on new season release
but thats assuming ur gear is reasonably optimized, just low ilvl
runic bough
Sheesh, so picky 😢
Okay Post an overall
fossil lintel
I'm doing like 2M overall most of the time, did one 10 where I was close to 3M overall but it was 100% a carry
glass mortar
not having tier set will be one of the biggest things prob
storm drum
man vcery part of my being says go orc for blood fury...but undead man i miss undead
runic bough
Ok that's better than a lot of 660 alt bots u can come
fossil lintel
I lost to the tank man
pearl trout
that's better than most of the people I find doing weekly 10s
runic bough
2mil overall is better than 660 alt bots tho
fossil lintel
Seriously?
tight kernel
Any eye gamers?
fossil lintel
But I was mostly joking to see if you would carry me, I don't know most of the dungeons in the pool, only did them on a 0 when tww came out
fossil lintel
Try running keys as a 640 outlaw without this season score
And let me know how that goes
runic bough
Its fine as long as your not dying I don't care if it's carry
fossil lintel
I can't get into shit lol
runic bough
Yeah try 2's
fossil lintel
They don't even invite me for those
runic bough
And 0's
tranquil hemlock
you'll have a harder time finding a +2 than a +10 tho
runic bough
Okay look for a normal raid as well
loud locust
first dungeon not too shabby
tranquil hemlock
if your dps is good just spam your own key
fossil lintel
I ran my own key, yeah
tranquil hemlock
thats what i did and farmed +7s with like 630 rather easily
fossil lintel
But like it takes 1 hour to find a tank or healer on 2-5
tranquil hemlock
though early in the season so high ilvl were still farming bis stuff
under +6 game is dead
gaunt phoenix
man vcery part of my being says go orc for blood fury...but undead man i miss un...
orc and undead is like 0.3% dps difference, you're good
tight kernel
Prob cloak angle right?
tranquil hemlock
Prob cloak angle right?
sim it but probs yes
vivid vessel
siming vaults 
fossil lintel
Did they rebalance racials?
gaunt phoenix
i dont think so
heavy shadow
what's the deal with AoE blind and this weeks affix (or last week if you look at it like that)
tranquil hemlock
you have to target a mob
gaunt phoenix
you have to target a regular mob
glass mortar
they buffed some racials going into s2
tranquil hemlock
if you target an orb it doesnt work
runic bough
Yeah so just have to wait for people to join your key if you don't want to keep going through declines.
gaunt phoenix
they buffed some racials going into s2
did they
glass mortar
yes
fossil lintel
It kills the orb and doesn't apply the aoe yeah
glass mortar
might have been 11.1.5 actually
heavy shadow
even so it doesn't seem to hit much at all
glass mortar
but a bunch of people got buffed anyway
fossil lintel
Was sad they didn't fix it from last season
glass mortar
dont think it changed anything for us
other then worgen racial now stacks with sprint
gaunt phoenix
the range is not super impressive but it should be aight
glass mortar
so i can nitro boots every 1.5m
and maghar orc got buffed to be many cd specs best racial
tranquil hemlock
uh dk especially it seems
feels like every one i've seen is mag'har
i'm so bored jfc
runic bough
I went tauren
fossil lintel
Also, where is guy? I haven't seen him since I came back
runic bough
Was dragon, undead and orc before.
fossil lintel
Did he abandon us for rets again?
fallen knot
ok so
i'd like to link some logs
but i also am wearing old tierset
so it might be just pointless
fossil lintel
At least we still have you solo
storm drum
I went tauren
i just swapped from tauren to undead
gaunt phoenix
At least we still have you solo
i wasnt here at the start of S2 
almost free
fallen knot
one thing i dont understand is magnet use, i legit get the urge to press it everytime it's off cd, but guy on wowhead says to wait 30 stacks
what to do
latent oak
my dad works at blizz and he told me that next xpac there will be giga food buffs that make panda bis race
gaunt phoenix
one thing i dont understand is magnet use, i legit get the urge to press it ever...
its the same damage dw
fallen knot
ok
fossil lintel
I wasn't here either so 
tranquil hemlock
my dad works at blizz and he told me that next xpac there will be giga food buff...
tell ur dad to fix ks
runic bough
i just swapped from tauren to undead
Nice for pvp
fossil lintel
When did they fix restealthing during subterfuge breaking uhuh?
runic bough
S1
fossil lintel
That makes questing with outlaw so fucking good
runic bough
Tww only brought 1 fix without asking, subt bug.
S2 we got aoe fixes after an article went up on wowhead.
They have only restricted more outlaw outside that.
wicked obsidian
tell ur dad to fix ks
no they should delete or rework it. when you say "fix" it they properly only fix the stagger bug...
glass mortar
hey fixing the stagger bug would be cute too
its great that this hilariously dangerous ability can also just kill u even if u use it smartly sometimes
fossil lintel
I feel like KS is too much "power of anime" for a pirate spec. They should give it to sub instead.
loud locust
The worst thing is popping killing spree and instantly dying to splash
glass mortar
it doesnt match our theme at all
gaunt phoenix
instantly?
glass mortar
other then being fast
loud locust
you could gain immunity for 1 second after it comes out of it
tranquil hemlock
by fix i meant remove the line of code thing obviously
loud locust
instantly?
as soon as it ends
gaunt phoenix
oh ye
keen belfry
i got thai last night
tranquil hemlock
i've died instantly pressing ks
loud locust
I did a dungeon, had all buffs was about to pump fat and died was pissed
glass mortar
i had an interesting one on a 12 priory
fossil lintel
And give us dust that they didn't want
glass mortar
nobody cc'd the adds running up
keen belfry
chicken pad thai, 4/5 spice
tranquil hemlock
on first boss of rookery, press ks during lasers, instadie
glass mortar
so i came out of a kspree in the middle of 5 adds who meleed me to death
while i was still in the kspree "gcd"
and couldnt cast anything
wicked obsidian
i died many times, when i still beaming around...
keen belfry
i went to ruam mit in st paul, ruam mit is pretty good
runic bough
Ks is more of a mockery / Slap to outlaw players faces. Among the nit picking of restrictions they set for us. We are overall performing better with working aoe now though.
fossil lintel
Don't you get a damage reduction during it? I noticed that I don't take a lot of damage when it teleports me on a swirly, it's just when it finishes that it kills me
runic bough
We still do extremely lower aoe than everyone because capped.
loud locust
Killing Spree must be an insanely strong ability for us to take it after having so many dungeons/pulls that just make it kind of unplayable to a degree tho right?
latent oak
We still do extremely lower aoe than everyone because capped.
this is wrong
loud locust
The amount of problems it causes/can cause seems like you should be avoiding the talent
gaunt phoenix
Don't you get a damage reduction during it? I noticed that I don't take a lot of...
No the damage you take during it is instead staggered to you over 8s after it ends
tranquil hemlock
Killing Spree must be an insanely strong ability for us to take it after having ...
fatebound is just terribly bad
i mean depends on how you see it i guess
keen belfry
i like trickster WAY WAY more than fatebound
haughty wigeon
so i came out of a kspree in the middle of 5 adds who meleed me to death
how did that happened
what?
keen belfry
i think palying around coup is RLLY fun
fossil lintel
Poor healer, I used it to dodge the dance boss in top once
haughty wigeon
did your tank just
glass mortar
i didnt even know those adds melee
loud locust
i mean depends on how you see it i guess
Didn't realise it ties directly into the hero talent
fossil lintel
It was like a 9
haughty wigeon
stop pressing buttons?
loud locust
Kind of explains it now
haughty wigeon
thats fucked
glass mortar
i legit ended my teleport inside the 5 adds and then was dead
haughty wigeon
first ive heard of that
gaunt phoenix
yeah killing spree gives you unseen blade procs
glass mortar
and i had 6 instant melees in my death log
gaunt phoenix
which is very strong
haughty wigeon
were they already engaging the tank?
runic bough
There are certain mechanics ks ignores like on gallywix you can freely use. However in rookery on first boss it's instant stun. Also the trash in floodgates its instant stun (architects).
haughty wigeon
ya you got melee sync'd from the sounds of it
glass mortar
with my funny ability
haughty wigeon
rip hope it never happens again thats weird
keen belfry
glass mortar
i dont think ive ever even seen adds make it to the boss xd
loud locust
is this you
keen belfry
its awang yes
loud locust
why do you play with a crosshair
haughty wigeon
i dont think ive ever even seen adds make it to the boss xd
so they werent engaged with the tank?
loud locust
💀
keen belfry
crosshair placement jiggle peak
mighty pivot
it's a gun spec you need a crosshair
vivid vessel
why do you play with a crosshair
how do you aim bte otherwise ?
glass mortar
so they werent engaged with the tank?
no i mean in general, the adds always get rooted/cc'd down on the stairs so they die before they get up
ive never seen the adds make it up to the platform
xd
vivid vessel
bro playing outlaw iwthout a crosshair
haughty wigeon
oh
haughty wigeon
adds didnt know tank existed, you appeared
loud locust
no need for crosshair
fossil lintel
That makes sense actually, it teleports you to the starting position after, but that ship has sailed
haughty wigeon
and adds gobbbled you
glass mortar
yea musta been
it was just funny cause i was planning to vanish off the back of the spree
haughty wigeon
hence why tricks didnt work
loud locust
619 ilvl to 640 ilvl in 1 day
glass mortar
because i was still in the kspree "animation"
loud locust
1 dungeon completed
wicked obsidian
That makes sense actually, it teleports you to the starting position after, but ...
this always happens on this ships with ks. so you can replicate it. good this this dungeon will be back in m+ pool next season
fossil lintel
No, yeah, it's literally supposed to happen on the ship
wicked obsidian
blizz is only to lazy to fix it even after one complete season with this dungeon
glass mortar
as long as kspree works how it works that dungeon will be nigh unplayable for us
fossil lintel
Since it saves the absolute position on the world and returns you to it
runic bough
Blizzard doesn't let ks move with the ship. Its placed where you cast it. Needs better code.
fossil lintel
That dungeon is already unplayable because you can't stealth and fly
runic bough
Likely not to get fixed.
glass mortar
well most of the flights are short enough u dont drop AR
its really just the first and last boss
and last boss is easy enough to play around
first boss if timings dont line up
fossil lintel
Yes, it should consider the relative position not absolute, so if you cast it while attached to a moving object you return to the same position on that object
wicked obsidian
i remember at one anniversary event when you refight cata ragna. ks kicked you out of the server
runic bough
It could also be that targets invisible hit box is still active during the ship flying. Ks doesn't know how to decipher active hit box and teleports you to old hit box which the ship is no longer at.
pearl trout
i remember at one anniversary event when you refight cata ragna. ks kicked you o...
movement in this game is so fucked, I remember in early Dragonflight you could disconnect from the server if you landed at high speed while dragonriding
remote pecan
i remember at one anniversary event when you refight cata ragna. ks kicked you o...
the green slime thing outside of sprocket's room kicks you out if you KS it
glass mortar
its just that kspree always rubberbands you to where u cast it initially from
and the boat is always moving
they didnt consider what that would mean
runic bough
That too yeah, you can't return to previous position either on a moving boat.
fossil lintel
In theory the world should also be moving, KS should throw you into outer space every time to be lore accurate
runic bough
In theory ks should attach to the target. It should also not teleport us randomly, but a fixed location like workshop last boss.
remote pecan
thats because when you're on the boat your character position is a position on the boat, but when you KS it's just an arbitrary point in the world. If the KS anchor was actually "on" the boat it would have been fine
runic bough
But we would all love no teleport at all.
fossil lintel
You can use either the term attached or child position for it
runic bough
Marvin you should get the hollowfall event mace in pins before the key tonight
fossil lintel
I have it
fossil lintel
Actually, are you US or EU?
runic bough
US
keen belfry
my rogue doesnt raid so im guessing my dinars will be like, pacemaker + priory??
latent oak
my rogue doesnt raid so im guessing my dinars will be like, pacemaker + priory??
heroic capo is still pretty good
fossil lintel
But I was just kidding man you don't have to carry my ass 😂
tranquil hemlock
pug first boss mythic and get keys
fringe tendon
pug first boss mythic and get keys
This
worldly shale
heroic capo is still pretty good
crafted main+nightfall wep would be better no?
runic bough
But I was just kidding man you don't have to carry my ass 😂
Your still outlaw and 2mil overall is better than pugs. Come tonight its fine.
tranquil hemlock
shouldnt be hard, especially with bonus ilvl
glass mortar
probably wins if u swap it in for st only over event oh
worldly shale
hc capo beat 678 offhand for me when i simmed a while ago
sim doesnt account the damage from offhand properly
glass mortar
probably pretty damn minor tho for a purchase
latent oak
sim doesnt account the damage from offhand properly
i mean basic offhand
random vers mast dagger
worldly shale
aha
latent oak
at max ilvl
pure folio
Is ravenous honey buzzer really bis like WoWhead says..? In all my dungeons it averages about 2% overall
glass mortar
no
bis is a bad term for any trinket this season
all trinkets r pretty weak
just get the highest ilvl u can of the list of decent trinkets and you'll be solid
but that is about the correct damage for it
pure folio
ive got myth peacemaker and honey buzzer
just wondering if hero remnant would be better than the 2% honey buzzer is giving..
glass mortar
first boss of raid trinket is equivalent to honey buzzer and less toxic to use
pure folio
it sims lower but idk if thats right
wicked obsidian
crafted main and offhand can become 681 with next week
so could also make a change in the sim...
proven ocean
had to troll some pugs i guess
glass mortar
crafted main and offhand can become 681 with next week
relative power to herioc+ items doesnt change
but if ur comparing it to non hero track yea
vestal notch
<:skullstare:1349145973573812296> had to troll some pugs i guess
But did u sleep well?
gaunt phoenix
Is ravenous honey buzzer really bis like WoWhead says..? In all my dungeons it a...
2% is pretty normal for trinkets
honey buzzer is annoying tho
proven ocean
<:skullstare:1349145973573812296> had to troll some pugs i guess
ok we depleted due to no cc's
pure folio
yea its 2% if its not killing me on top of ks xD
proven ocean
NOT MY FAULT
I DID MORE CC'S than the boomkin
💀 💀 💀 💀 💀
never had to press kidneys in my life 
17 keys are demonic
runic bough
Okay guys I will be posting this throughout the day. Starting new event for Tuesdays possibly..
***Outlaw Tuesdays
I'm gonna host triple outlaw tonight around 830pm PST. I think I got an 11 from vault. (NA servers)*** Got a guild healer so far (reliable). Lmk if interested.
Need 2 outlaws.
Open to carry 1 outlaw.
keen belfry
Open to carry 1 outlaw.
@glass mortar
celest cobalt
Lmao that's gonna be troll and I can't wait to see it. Streaming?
runic bough
Yes
I wish I looked what key I got this morning
Now its a mystery for me too
Don't know until I get home
I hope it's top
pearl trout
Cinderbrew for more pleasure
jolly geyser
mechagon inc
runic bough
After getting used to it, adr has high uptime on both
still matrix
idk
runic bough
But I think fate has way higher uptime
still matrix
you can just get shit unlucky with no cdr
runic bough
Ks ruins uptime a lot
ornate kernel
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
- Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
- Zac's Group Devlin
Utilities: - Combo Point Standalone
- Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
- Ace refund sound trigger
- RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
- Unseen Blade tracker
Fun: - Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
- KS Ticking damage taken
keen belfry
no ryu
runic bough
Some bte windows you have only 1 ss and wasted window
When I play trickster
Its bullshit
The lows are worst then kir fate
sick hull
so i just got Geargrinder's Spare Keys, which CD or attack should i macro it to?