Do it
#outlaw
daring oxide
runic bough
daring oxide
@reals amazing work thanks for the fix
runic bough
He did it
eager radish
jolly geyser
haughty wigeon
https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877
runic bough
Jimmy has joined the chat.
split ingot
can someone check if i did something wrong or its actually real ? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eNvY8AisqUKsaqckEvgUpn
haughty wigeon
zeross
are you excited for your free mythic level pace maker
when dinars come out
proven ocean
hollow portal
xI would like to hear your opinion on why Blizzard doesn't want to change KS.
haughty wigeon
i can finally stop doing floodgates on my vdh
jolly geyser
hollow temple
ye character i'm sure
jolly geyser
When do we get dinners?
glass mortar
only 3 per bnet account?
Ip wide even
agile orchid
but I wonder if you can buy mythic stuff on alts
glass mortar
3 dinar ever per pc
agile orchid
if you haven't done the content
glass mortar
Don't waste em
red zinc
Ip wide even
region wide actually, gotta be fast
hollow temple
xI would like to hear your opinion on why Blizzard doesn't want to change KS.
nothing says they "don't want to" change it. they're aware most players want it changed.
jolly geyser
They should scale up old dinar gear to tww lvl
agile orchid
They should scale up old dinar gear to tww lvl
edge of night 
hollow temple
Guys is this guy cooked
nah he's based
late swallow
edge 
jolly geyser
Edge and grieftorch
hollow temple
edge at night?
agile orchid
it's funny how people hate KS
vivid vessel
bro
agile orchid
but boon is
vivid vessel
latent oak
KS during boon
chills
red zinc
but boon is <:Pog:985509109782675527>
you didnt have to press boon every 20s
late swallow
i wonder what would happen with a KS during boon
late swallow
surely you just DC
latent oak
boon is once every 3 mins
late swallow
what was the other trinket option people used in df s4
red zinc
plus who cares about boon
late swallow
the tank one
red zinc
nda guzzler better
latent oak
surely you just DC
every time i ks a mob that is on a hill/half submerged and dont dc
i thank blizzard
red zinc
what was the other trinket option people used in df s4
rageheart
latent oak
rageheart was so overkill on outlaw with 50% vers
hollow portal
nothing says they "don't want to" change it. they're aware most players want it ...
And what do they say? Will they change it? Are they thinking about doing it? Are they considering how? Etc. I'd like to see some opinions on that, but absolutely no one has said anything.
red zinc
And what do they say? Will they change it? Are they thinking about doing it? Are...
didnt say anythin
latent oak
my hunter tried to psyop me into buying the shielding ally trinket to save him on nokhud
red zinc
if there is class changes this ptr cycle
and ks changes arent there
we can assume they just dont want to change it
then we can start malding
hollow portal
then we can start malding
I agree
desert tendon
i wonder what would happen with a KS during boon
Iirc u couldnt press ks during boon. And pressing boon during ks canceled ks
latent oak
that goes hard
glass mortar
It was funny
hollow temple
And what do they say? Will they change it? Are they thinking about doing it? Are...
the only thing they have stated is that "its on their radar"
proven ocean
@hollow temple do u have this achievement btw
or
cuz if u dont idk what to say non pvper guy
proven ocean
Imagine not having it
Bozo
desert tendon
Idk how many hk achiev i got
proven ocean
i just wasted 250$ today on coffee beans im happy tho
desert tendon
But multiple char / faction made it bad
desert tendon
Zero btw
late swallow
i just wasted 250$ today on coffee beans im happy tho
i bought another bike recently
desert tendon
Coffee is crashing today
late swallow
consumerism is king baby
desert tendon
In stocks
late swallow
i love consooming so much
proven ocean
that wont affect shit here tho so
desert tendon
-2.7% today
late swallow
latent oak
are you looking forward the next marvel ensemble film?!?!?!?
desert tendon
Bad meme
late swallow
it's true though
craggy quiver
Japan is over rated
glass mortar
Grass is greener syndrome
craggy quiver
But maybe it's because I lived there for like 6 years
glass mortar
It's a pretty place to visit
craggy quiver
Lol
glass mortar
So is most places uve never been thi
glass mortar
Ah I was unsure
desert tendon
Gladly
late swallow
korea < japan (i haven't been to either)
glass mortar
Ty for clarifying censi
desert tendon
glass mortar
🫡
latent oak
atlantis prolly
glass mortar
Som is in the states he's said earlier
red zinc
Where ya from already?
east coast US
glass mortar
But he's ukrainian I believe
dawn talon
Japan is over rated
the social issues get completely ignored by foreigners bc ‘omg hecking anime’ lmao
dawn talon
the human trafficking situation in rural japan is gross these past few years
proven ocean
guys
u remmeber that joke where invincible mount was invisible
it actually is invisible to game data, back when we had bursting affix it dismounted you from all mounts except invincible
craggy quiver
the social issues get completely ignored by foreigners bc ‘omg hecking anime’ lm...
Honestly I lived smacked dabbed in Osaka for 6 years
proven ocean
i guess it was invisible to bursting
craggy quiver
It's not that bad foreigners wise
desert tendon
the social issues get completely ignored by foreigners bc ‘omg hecking anime’ lm...
Anime kawaiiiiiii
dawn talon
the xenophobia isnt so bad anymore
late swallow
That explains his dogshit taste
my taste in what?
dawn talon
but thats true of all of east asia
fluid iron
other than im from one of them
late swallow
my buddy is half japanese and half korean
desert tendon
Uwu stealthi
latent oak
my buddy is half japanese and half korean
which half
tight kernel
I would love to visit korea
Food is good.. but tbh I got carsick every single taxi ride I took idk
dawn talon
my buddy is half japanese and half korean
his parents mustve been getting the most hateful treatment from everyone lol
slate plaza
hit 3k for the first time
shut lichen
what?
red zinc
chicken butt
proven ocean
!!!
desert tendon
Some korean fried chicken
slate plaza
fucking finally
desert tendon
Extra spice
late swallow
which half
weirdly enough, his dad was korean and his mom was japanese
late swallow
and yeah they had to hide their marriage and shit
dawn talon
my mom almost killed me for going to prom with a japanese girl lol
dense bolt
other than im from one of them
Did u see u got a new mount
patent mirage
its not difficult finding better food in other countries if come from the usa
late swallow
the korea/japan beef is legendary
tight kernel
Zerosa don’t do it
desert tendon
Zero
craggy quiver
It is
desert tendon
We re talkibg
tight kernel
Actually zeross do it
fluid iron
Did u see u got a new mount
if you just mistook a hedgehog for a raccoon, imma have to ban u
desert tendon
Let adults talk
tight kernel
Play it
desert tendon
Go play in your room zero
slate plaza
if you just mistook a hedgehog for a raccoon, imma have to ban u
which ones a a racoon again
desert tendon
fluid iron
which ones a a racoon again
the one without spikes?
dense bolt
if you just mistook a hedgehog for a raccoon, imma have to ban u
Its a animal and thats all i know but also !ban rem for all eternity yep
slate plaza
the stinky one that eats garbage?
desert tendon
A hedgecoon
dawn talon
the korea/japan beef is legendary
my mom hates everyone except the thai and the chinese lol
latent oak
weirdly enough, his dad was korean and his mom was japanese
i meant like this
desert tendon
Hello zerocool
late swallow
my mom hates everyone except the thai and the chinese lol
my buddy's family basically hates all other asians besides the japanese
asian racism goes hard af
south scaffold
guys, how are everyone doing now so much dmg in m+. i just dont feel a difference? lmao?
tight kernel
Skill issue
proven ocean
guys, how are everyone doing now so much dmg in m+. i just dont feel a difference? lmao?
late swallow
i meant like this
ah good question. his dick and balls are japanese, and his face is korean
desert tendon
Racism in asia is something
latent oak
is that a high roll or a low roll
shut lichen
yes
late swallow
african racism goes crazy too
desert tendon
Oh yea
shut lichen
true and real
desert tendon
That s for sure
desert tendon
This continent got crazy situations going on also in like half the countries
glass mortar
asian racism goes hard af
Legit I had so many Korean friends in hs and the casual racism against Japanese/Chinese people was crazy
shut lichen
all the ugandan dudes I've met absolutely trash black people in the us
all of the continent of Africa does tbh
i can tell you that for free
dawn talon
african racism goes crazy too
imagine if you had to be subject to both LMFAOOO
glass mortar
Asia skill difs the west on this
proven ocean
racism is like complaining
people complain about everything
same way where racism is everywhere
dawn talon
my dad is black and my mom is korean
glass mortar
That's very deep zeross I'm proud of u
proven ocean
desert tendon
fluid iron
its not him typing
proven ocean
??
fluid iron
its the 12 redbulls he drank today
fluid iron
they got a mind of their own
late swallow
Have u taken philosophy class or what zero?
they said
i don’t belong
but neither does
the sun
in a sky
this dark
and yet
it rises
anyway
proven ocean
and lay in bed for 2 hrs
then go to bed
cuz
i skipped redbulls today
kinda want to sleep early ish
past falcon
what flavor
glass mortar
Guys there was gorilla vs 100 men discourse in guild discord earlier and I just stirred the pot and now it's back
shut lichen
i want to just close my pc
imagine if you do just that
glass mortar
💅
past falcon
i meant in general ok
proven ocean
keep in mind, redbull is only good when its super cold
otherwise
ur gonna hate it
and
yea
past falcon
i hate it anyway
dawn talon
lemon lime bang my beloved
desert tendon
Who
past falcon
LMAO
latent oak
have u had redbull in asia
desert tendon
I ve everyone blocked
latent oak
the cans are wild
desert tendon
I only see zac stealthi and u
craggy quiver
my mom hates everyone except the thai and the chinese lol
You shoulda seen the anti foreigner rallies they have in Osaka almost every month
craggy quiver
They even had one in front of the us consulate
proven ocean
HE ISNT EVEN HERE
vivid vessel
dawn talon
You shoulda seen the anti foreigner rallies they have in Osaka almost every mont...
yeah but they dont have political power anymore
craggy quiver
Lmao
desert tendon
My french bud
desert tendon
See
proven ocean
WTF
past falcon
he’s arrived
dawn talon
like they did in the 90s and 2000s
desert tendon
I summon him
past falcon
he is Him
dawn talon
theyre just loud and annoying
proven ocean
ok guys this chat is too cursed for me
desert tendon
Zac
proven ocean
everytime
desert tendon
How s ks?
late swallow
my dream of moving into the quiet japanese countryside may never come true
desert tendon
Zac
proven ocean
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
craggy quiver
theyre just loud and annoying
There's no power just bunch of old people yelling on top of cars
Lol
wary wind
french mfs be like "sock ray blue"
dawn talon
my dream of moving into the quiet japanese countryside may never come true
with the way the cost of living is going up probably not LMFAO
desert tendon
The rogue leaving wave will maybe replace me in wisp
proven ocean
french mfs be like "sock ray blue"
pink pfp mf
desert tendon
Secret tho
proven ocean
glass mortar
my dream of moving into the quiet japanese countryside may never come true
Dw they r facing societal collapse inside 2 decades aren't they
proven ocean
desert tendon
I didnt tell u anything
glass mortar
They will need to import lots of people to keep going
Just wait for prices to crash
past falcon
ok im convinced
late swallow
and swoop in
glass mortar
No.
proven ocean
oh
desert tendon
That would be à dream
proven ocean
lmaoaoaoaoo
desert tendon
Like
late swallow
the ultimate gooner
desert tendon
Only needing to ban 1 person
glass mortar
I thought he was gunna end that with "all kissed" ngl
desert tendon
Zero
late swallow
fr tho when are we unbanning vrgl
proven ocean
no no dont zero me
trail star
is vrgl banned? lol
desert tendon
Imagine u and whispyr were assa apl besties
late swallow
yeah he got perma gulaged
glass mortar
Ah
trail star
lol why
glass mortar
Ripperino
trail star
what did i miss
proven ocean
Imagine u and whispyr were assa apl besties
i am learning the apl, it might happen
shut lichen
vrgl 
shut lichen
bro was content
desert tendon
Is the complète mess of layers
proven ocean
dont think it is a mess its just that they went with the best build for most players which is the way to go ideally
sin apl is fine
late swallow
desert tendon
Zero
late swallow
ross r u gonna work on the sub apl next
shut lichen
sin has an apl?
desert tendon
Kinda raid like but with ct just
proven ocean
Have u recently tried the classic cleave build
whats that
desert tendon
No démise
proven ocean
u cannot drop sudden demise
desert tendon
No scent
desert tendon
It sounds horrible
shut lichen
lethimcook
proven ocean
its legit impossible to drop 20% agility
upbeat tundra
wait they fixed ks on the ptr
desert tendon
But i wanted to Know if u tried
proven ocean
20% agility is too big
late swallow
wait they fixed ks on the ptr
niec bait bro
proven ocean
thats like
tight kernel
Hey zero guess what
upbeat tundra
ks is the same on ptr
how sure are you
runic bough
LET HIM COOK
shut lichen
but what if?
runic bough
Timmy is a liar
late swallow
runic bough
Nice slippers homie
late swallow
we need a cholo mog in the trading post
runic bough
Cowabunga dude is in season
shut lichen
somnius's meme game never misses
latent oak
need a toyotita mount
runic bough
Ninja turtle to cholos next month?
late swallow
Ninja turtle to cholos next month?
this would be based
upbeat tundra
is it more fun doing the outlaw rotation on the dummies in dornogol than it is doing the unholy rotation on actual mobs inside a key
makes u wonder
viral flume
outlaw is super fun, almost as good as legion sp imo
upbeat tundra
it was better in bfa cause you could hit all the monsters on the computer screen at the same time and you were able to get into a key
a close second would be that one weekend with the anniversary bug
i saw "need outlaw" in so many group titles
still holding onto that moment
craggy quiver
Crackshot outlaw is way better than bfa
potent swan
is pirate good now?
latent belfry
Shit will I finally get invited to 15’s consistently now
upbeat tundra
Shit will I finally get invited to 15’s consistently now
yes
latent belfry
3.2k here I cum
upbeat tundra
all 15s is 3300
latent belfry
I’ve seen some 3.2k leaders
potent swan
tanks or w/e arent reading wowhead posts and thinking dam ok outlaws getting my inv
latent belfry
Like high 3.2k doe
red zinc
aw hell naw they gettin too greedy now
upbeat tundra
aw hell naw they gettin too greedy now
wait this is an insane idea
red zinc
and very reportable
lizzard does not fuck around with advertising boosting in group finder
upbeat tundra
how is this reportable
arent you doing exactly what they want by selling an ingame service for ingame currency
red zinc
you remember in SL when the entire group finder was filled with advertisers?
not like that anymore for a reason
upbeat tundra
selling for real money sure
red zinc
its one of the most random things for blizz to put their foot down on
but they are actively doing it
they dont do report feedback anymore but i am quite certain it happens, if it doesnt im actively gaslighting a lot of people and it has a similar effect
upbeat tundra
or they arent doing anything about any of it and you made all that up
hollow temple
how is this reportable
advertising in LFG is ToS
red zinc
I mean I got daily feedbacks during SL / early DF
they definitely used to ban for it, just dont notify you now anymore
upbeat tundra
ill try it and let u guys know what happens
hollow temple
bare minimum they silence your account so you can't LFG for X days
red zinc
if you're on EU you'll probably get a whisper from me and thats it
big gaslighting operation
wicked acorn
So many people report advertising in lfg bro
shut lichen
i ignore the key boosts in lfg because if ur dumb enough to trust someone in queue like that you deserve to lose that gold
fluid meadow
how can stealth work there, are we not in full combat ? wattafak
upbeat tundra
reporting like that is some big karen energy
proven ocean
True lmao
trail star
Ah lmao
upbeat tundra
i think
trail star
Thats defo next level haha
vestal notch
No
upbeat tundra
yea this would be a sick way to get some weeklys done on my guys
trail star
But thats literally too cheap
upbeat tundra
why would one want to do untimed keys
because getting in the 15 is 10x harder than timing the 15
upbeat tundra
they just allow you to play the key with them
yea but this is the hardest part
red zinc
yea but this is the hardest part
yeah thats not about the not timing part
i mean him saying its too cheap
it definitely isnt
trail star
Resi was the right step for it, next step is autoqueue
upbeat tundra
yeah thats not about the not timing part
if you have enough gold i can definitely see people paying to just play the game
we're currently paying $15 every month to sit in the city
whats a little gold to actually do combat
vestal notch
because getting in the 15 is 10x harder than timing the 15
got a frost mage rage bc we depleted my resi 15 and i didnt want to run it again bc apparently frost mage is bottom 3 dps specs in m+ and i had to help him
red zinc
if you have enough gold i can definitely see people paying to just play the game
i know people that pay for 16s so they can "play higher keys" and then dont do anymore keys because they turbo suck
harsh hedge
Hi folks, quick question: I've been trying the Trickster/Supercharger aoe build. Should I be using a finisher when my current combo points are animacharged or should I ignore that and always finish at 5/6 points as usual? Hope that makes sense.
upbeat tundra
i know people that pay for 16s so they can "play higher keys" and then dont do a...
atleast they got to play the game
red zinc
Hi folks, quick question: I've been trying the Trickster/Supercharger aoe build....
ER (supercharger) doesnt supercharge specific combo points anymore if thats what you mean
your ui might look like it but it doesnt
just finish as you normally would
red zinc
no
hollow temple
So no finishing on 1 combo point even if it is animacharged?
Supercharger just adds on the extra combo points to your finisher regardless of what point you finish on
harsh hedge
Oh! I see!
hollow temple
The only thing you see on your UI is the amount of charges you have
bright crane
The finisher rules don’t change with SC
harsh hedge
So not like the old version at all. Gotcha.
hollow temple
So not like the old version at all. Gotcha.
Correct
harsh hedge
Thanks folks!
your ui might look like it but it doesn't
This is what was confusing me.
dense wyvern
how can stealth work there, are we not in full combat ? wattafak <:OMEGAKEKW:829...
Lol i have been able to meld and then restealth mid fight for months now i think. doesnt work 100% of the time but i just macro shadow meld and stealth together and i can get in stealth like half the time. Thought it was working as intended
hasty warren
for top I take pc or i stay on 2 fth gs deft ?
frail veldt
> your ui might look like it but it doesn't
This is what was confusing me.
yeah its cuz they changed how it works but kept the old ui element
very strange decision
but I think it was their quickest path to changing it how they wanted
magic shuttle
for top I take pc or i stay on 2 fth gs deft ?
Great dungeon for pc
hasty warren
Great dungeon for pc
what shoult I remove to take it ?
magic shuttle
Are you playing kir or ho?
hasty warren
kir
magic shuttle
For kir you can take out a point of fth
hasty warren
k i'll try ty dude
i wasn't sure if I had to remove 1 point on fth or gs/deft
gs and deft my beloved
bright crane
Maybe I’m simming wrong but kir still sims like 6% less than HO even when I recraft/gem/enchant to hit haste cap
magic shuttle
Keep in mind 1pt fth plays a bit different
hasty warren
Keep in mind 1pt fth plays a bit different
yep ik ty
magic shuttle
But as long as you don't overcap the 6 fth charges it's fine
craggy quiver
Someone test one button rotation for outlaw in ptr
magic shuttle
Gcd reduction penalty sounds funny
You gear the needed amount of haste just for the auto rotation button to press spells at 1 sec gcd anyway
red zinc
Someone test one button rotation for outlaw in ptr
on it
remote pecan
you only incur the 0.2s penalty if you actually press the 1 button rotation.
Doesnt stop you from blowing it up and putting it on it's own bar and just following it manually like you would an existing rotation helper which doesnt incur any penalty and it still "tells" you what to press
vivid vessel
oh its there already ?
remote pecan
i mean it's hot garbage atm and doesnt suggest any CDs and wastes soo much
red zinc
yeah
hasnt used AR once
guess they havent done that much work on it yet
good sign of things to come
remote pecan
but it doesnt play the core of outlaw in any way
after using outlaw as an example of why they made it.
keen belfry
anyone have a goob group mob cast wa
like, just the overall casts happening of the mob pack
trail star
keen belfry
ty lil bro
upbeat tundra
imagine having a full magic comp and getting gapped by an outlaw
red zinc
bad uhdk dungeon copege
red zinc
o
magic shuttle
Shaman buff pretty sweet for outlaw
red zinc
idek what frost does
remote pecan
wdym full magic comp, you still get skyfury which is 1 of our best raid buffs
upbeat tundra
but its also one of theirs
vivid vessel
hm
honeslty
its better than what i tought
it doesnt press adr
or vanish
but it understand builders and finishers
remote pecan
if you right click the icon in the spell book it tells you whats included in it
remote pecan
it wastes soo many opportunity stacks
upbeat tundra
wtf do u mean it doesnt hit adr
or vanish
then what does it do
play classic wow?
remote pecan
but yeh no vanish no ar, if you vanish it'll play crackshot properly
vivid vessel
i mean if you arent playing crackshot
vivid vessel
it prolly does a decent job
and i can kinda understand the idea of not putting cds into it
upbeat tundra
does it use major cds for any spec
remote pecan
probably not it's probably a "choice of the player" of when to use them
but that view doesnt rly work for outlaw
overall thouigh it aint bad, if it gets customisation & more features i get my evenings back 😄
blizzards problem now
mighty pivot
rogues finally get their ranged spec, it's ass(a)
vivid vessel
melee range lol
upbeat tundra
does it work better for the other classes
remote pecan
if they build something to automate scraping github commits and adding them to the rotation helper automatically then they just get solo as a free employee 
glass mortar
or vanish
how is it playing builder rules
is what i rlly wanna know
does it overcap or does it avoid
vivid vessel
ss
glass mortar
on like HO
glass mortar
ah ok
remote pecan
it overcaps and wastes
red zinc
mine pressed ks at 4cp
idk why
maybe it does actually take supercharged cp into account
that'd surprise me though
remote pecan
maybe we've all just been playing the spec wrong all this time
and we think we're undertuned
glass mortar
it is sorta an odd dynamic i wonder how they plan to upkeep it like
literal talent tunings can change rotational priorities
i assume they plan for it to be very very basic
red zinc
sure
i also dont think its a choice that cooldowns arent in there @vivid vessel
some classes do have smaller cds (like touch of the magi)
vivid vessel
yeye
red zinc
they just havent finished
glass mortar
sounds like almost universally cooldowns arent in there its def just unfinished
remote pecan
its not just the rotation helper is it rly it sounds like they want to bring all the community supported addons, at least the popular ones in house and give all that extra work to the current team that barely keeps up with bug fixes
torpid fiber
if they build something to automate scraping github commits and adding them to t...
ok but think about how crazy sandbagging will be when the TCers can intentionally push a bad apl and now 20% of the playerbase will perfectly make the mistakes in it
vivid vessel
they put the "small cd" (flag) but not the "big cd" (blades)
red zinc
my issue with this is
red zinc
out of ALL the addons that you copy first
why hekili
give people good baseline plates or dps meter
torpid fiber
They said they are copying dps meters sometime tbf
red zinc
the way it was worded it seemed more like "if we are getting rid of player addons we will add it"
or some shit
torpid fiber
That's fair
I think generally the goals are good I just don't trust blizzard to maintain all this responsibility they're taking on
remote pecan
ok but think about how crazy sandbagging will be when the TCers can intentionall...
i mean technically the rotation helper developers can do that now, or even leave out certain "features" to give themselves an advantage for example
hollow temple
give people good baseline plates or dps meter
Agreed
Fix game don’t make it brain dead
dense bolt
i want to see what blizzard do with their plater and aug
very interesting
sorry
details
red zinc
like unironically
I think plater is more important than weakauras
fix it already
please
these new players have literally 0 clue whats going on if they dont have some nameplate altering addon
remote pecan
blizzard just game studio version of Lidl making "Bliziki", "Deets", "Strong Auras" and "BlizzWigs"
hollow temple
I hope they add in a Gladius or something similar
There’s zero CC DR visibility on base UI
sullen wyvern
GUYS
hollow temple
Very cringe
hollow temple
The one with the electricity balls?
sullen wyvern
yea
hollow temple
You need tank to move away from balls
hollow temple
Then when it phases idk
vivid vessel
I think plater is more important than weakauras
ye
and even plater
cant do shit
about plates being bad
in this game
like
sullen wyvern
do I get hit by balls if balls are at the middle in p2?
vivid vessel
i think one of the most important thing
would be that less important ennemies
are scaled down
and you cant do that in this game
quiet root
do I get hit by balls if balls are at the middle in p2?
yes
remote pecan
blizzard's version of plater = "plates"
sullen wyvern
while on KS of course
that's the thing those balls were at mid almost all the time
remote pecan
then you also need to bitch at the tank to stand somewhere else 😄
red zinc
and you cant do that in this game
They at least acknowledged making important kicks a lot more visually clear (like with altered plates) so maybe theyll do it if they ever overhaul plates
strong cargo
do I get hit by balls if balls are at the middle in p2?
try to make people bait on sides or at max melee range, so you can have middle safe
vivid vessel
They at least acknowledged making important kicks a lot more visually clear (lik...
maybe
red zinc
i just know that their plater will still stay “in theme” and have either unclear info or visual clutter that isnt removeable
so idk
red zinc
They should keep going with their own addons but if they ever get rid of addons altogether
vivid vessel
arent even possible
vivid vessel
i think in a world withotu addon i would be better than a lot of people
because of all the weak auras people use
to do their rotation
and i dont like that
hollow temple
I think the only addons they’re going to remove are some WA/boss mods functions
I don’t see them taking away regular WA or plater
red zinc
I see them saying theyll do it and then going back on it
remote pecan
i dno i think they are probably tired of trying to support external addons and the games "poor" performance when it's full of 3rd party stuff
hollow temple
Ion said very clearly
They don’t want to take away customizability or anything
Only certain combat log functions
red zinc
For sure
timber knoll
They’re gonna spend a ton of dev time making something 60% as good as the addon developed full time and all we will have to show for it is less content in the game while still using the addon we have been
patent mirage
Wat
torpid fiber
Yeah that's my fear
red zinc
I just think itll turn into a cat and mouse game where blizz still creates bosses that require some kind of addon, and people will continue to figure out ingenious shit around the restrictions
Ending in blizzard trying to restrict shit altogether
remote pecan
imo they should just contribute to the external addons rather then re-inventing the wheel
light dune
in the situations where you dont get the 6th buff CTO'd whats the minimum duration before you KIR the 5 buffs? When they're at 12 seconds to go to 42 seconds to be above the container or are you fishing all the way until 1 second is remaining.
patent mirage
It's a good step, unless people forget how many in game functions used to be addons
remote pecan
like how many devs / man hours have been spent making this new rotation helper, which isnt as good as any existing ones
torpid fiber
I see why they're doing this, its to prevent the absurd add-ons that solve mechanics way beyond what anyone could have imagined like a decade ago
red zinc
Just dont make bosses that require it then
Same thing with this rotation helper thing being a “solution” for complicated classes
Just dont make them clunky or complicated if thats such an issue
patent mirage
Wat
slate plaza
i fucking hate killgin spree
wiht a passion
i cant fucking click thsi button for all bosses half the time in m+
red zinc
Dont worry
patent mirage
Just do it
patent mirage
Class changes will come
timber knoll
I get why they would want to move away from excessive addons and weakauras but you don’t even need weakauras until you get to high end content, at which point you’re probably completely fine with downloading and tweaking stuff to make you better
red zinc
We can go all out
vivid vessel
NO
patent mirage
But not for rogues
vivid vessel
11.1.7
slate plaza
whgen
vivid vessel
IS THE REDENPTION
vivid vessel
KS
slate plaza
knowing blizzard tahts how it is
vivid vessel
REWORK
slate plaza
we're pretty forgotten about
red zinc
i think so too zac
slate plaza
im surprised they fixed bugs this fast
vivid vessel
im surprised they fixed bugs this fast
im not
it was a wowhead article
they dont do shit unless pressured basically
good precedent
timber knoll
Now that our damage isn’t bugged if they just made KS not troll we would be golden
red zinc
devs are aware of the consensus around KS
slate plaza
im abt to pressure them
red zinc
If they dont change it now its a conscious choice
patent mirage
I want rogues to have only killing spree
remote pecan
publicly shaming them on wowhead shouldnt be the only way to get game breaking bugs fixed
slate plaza
gonna bind killing spree to their gas pedals irl in their cars so they know what its like when ur just tryna chill
patent mirage
Nothing else
haughty wigeon
I get why they would want to move away from excessive addons and weakauras but y...
Nah
vivid vessel
publicly shaming them on wowhead shouldnt be the only way to get game breaking b...
ye
how is it the only way tho
seems weird to me right
normal aurora
I don't like the need or desire for weak auras for high end content. I don't want external gameplay enhancers to be a driving force in the content i can do.
haughty wigeon
Blizzard doesn’t like it when a spec is this reliant one weakauras
torpid fiber
publicly shaming them on wowhead shouldnt be the only way to get game breaking b...
real talk none of this stuff was game breaking
Game breaking would be like if ss wasn't generating cp or whatever
They were bad bugs but not game breaking
patent mirage
I snif on killing spree
haughty wigeon
The degree of outlaw needing weakauras to touch potential max dps is silly to them
normal aurora
its so much more enjoyable to listen to voice lines and observe the environment when making decisions on what to do then just a weak aura telling me how to play
vivid vessel
The degree of outlaw needing weakauras to touch potential max dps is silly to th...
does it tho
tight kernel
how can I hate watch with chat off ?????
timber knoll
It’s funny they say that but keep designing specs to be tracking all this different shit, just make specs simpler
vivid vessel
how can I hate watch with chat off ?????
cause i wont ever read ytb chat
patent mirage
The degree of outlaw needing weakauras to touch potential max dps is silly to th...
A point is the game is unwelcomi g to the new player
vivid vessel
so i just didabled it
vivid vessel
with the thingy
the cooldown manager
haughty wigeon
A point is the game is unwelcomi g to the new player
Yep
vivid vessel
like idk
red zinc
vivid vessel
you guys make a big deal out of outlaw needing weak auras
but like
my weak auras in game rn
patent mirage
I have only killing spree on my bars
haughty wigeon
It’s not just outlaw tho
torpid fiber
A point is the game is unwelcomi g to the new player
to be fair to fix this they would need to make the free trial good
Until they do that new players kinda don't matter
late swallow
You fucked up his fuck up
Holy shit
vivid vessel
the onyl things that are fancy are my rtb tracker
haughty wigeon
It’s also arcane mage
late swallow
haughty wigeon
Zac your also
vivid vessel
its the cooldown manager
vivid vessel
ye ok but
haughty wigeon
And live and breath outlaw
late swallow
The only way to address the outlaw WA issue is to really dumb down outlaw btw
vivid vessel
you dont need weak auras to play outlaw you just play it idk
haughty wigeon
Like how I live and breath ret and veng
normal aurora
the CD manager has the potential.. its just ugly af. I don't use WA but use plater to track my buffs on my personal resource bar
red zinc
Zac is worse than dogwoofwoof idk about that
haughty wigeon
I don’t need weakauras for those specs either
timber knoll
Cooldown manager is just a weakauras pack though with less features, you stilll need to track more info than the base base UI can give
haughty wigeon
I have auto attack timer in my head
And dr timer in my head too
But doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist and people need them
Honestly the more ui friendly specs become the better overal
haughty wigeon
I don’t think blizzard is at a level with its own ui to replace any addon or weakaura
So it needs more time to cook
timber knoll
Zoom all the way in first person gaming
patent mirage
I play first person to enjoy ks more
vivid vessel
spend 5 min
red zinc
Yeah ok that blue post confirms that they want it to use cds
vivid vessel
making a proper one
red zinc
They just forgot
red zinc
zac
vivid vessel
wdym you want feedback
remote pecan
i'll send them the complaints i get "rotation bad, fix please"
vivid vessel
bro they didnt even try
red zinc
you see the example list of cds it uses right
vivid vessel
wdym feedback
patent mirage
I type to cast abilities
vivid vessel
xd
timber knoll
They can cook a lot and get the UI to a place where most addons aren’t necessary but is the opportunity cost of doing that worth it? Couldn’t they be doing more worthwhile stuff
patent mirage
I want AI to play for me
dense bolt
i was tilted out of my mind from ks
red zinc
GPTlaw when
vivid vessel
nah idk
patent mirage
Introducing the new add-on AI game play
red zinc
they can remove the gcd penalty or at least vastly lower it in my opinion
patent mirage
Where an AI does it all for you
daring oxide
devs are aware of the consensus around KS
how do ya know
vivid vessel
asking feedback when you didnt even try making a semi working rotation
red zinc
I need my social raiders to do some damage
dense bolt
how do ya know
brother do u ever look at dms
red zinc
how do ya know
seen solo say stuff about realz being aware
timber knoll
Wait is it testable
timber knoll
Does it support GSW
red zinc
gsw fanboys OUT
vivid vessel
seen solo say stuff about realz being aware
I mena realz has aknowledged like 3 times
that he knew about ks
patent mirage
Ks will be replaced with a spell where you just explode
remote pecan
Does it support GSW
it doesnt support outlaw, doesnt use the core of our abilities.
red zinc
that he knew about ks
Sure but class changes were kept out of the last patch
on purpose seemingly
so idk
upbeat tundra
that he knew about ks
what does "knew about ks" mean here
red zinc
could be that its already worked on and just waiting to be dropped
remote pecan
rather than fixing KS they made a rotation helper that doesnt help
timber knoll
I mean they knew in beta that ks was fucked
vivid vessel
what does "knew about ks" mean here
he know its dogshit
he just wont say
"i know its dogshit"
but he knows
and he wrote words
patent mirage
I want a ks that lasts longer
upbeat tundra
he know its dogshit
ok so literally just fucking fix it
red zinc
What are the odds that they think the no teleport visual is too “wonky” and theyre working on a whole new spell instead of just fucking patching it
upbeat tundra
At least 1min ks
it should run a 1 minute unskippable ad during it
timber knoll
It warps your camera like you have a seizure and looks like you’d expect a wotlk ability to look
patent mirage
With raid shadow legends ad
upbeat tundra
and during the 1 minute it performs the 1 button auto rotation
patent mirage
But
upbeat tundra
while ur watching the ad
patent mirage
You listen to the music from the blade club scene
upbeat tundra
and then streamers get dmca'd
small crater
Can someone share with me a good outlaw rogue guide, please?
red zinc
remote pecan
oh man this helper tells you to KS in crackshot
random stirrup
tender wedge
Pretty far down indeed
How close can you get to the core of the earth before you just die
remote pecan
delicate seal
It warps your camera like you have a seizure and looks like you’d expect a wotlk...
Back then it used to chain teleport you to anchor spot
That was better honestly
hollow temple
!prekey
ornate heathBOT
Pre-key fuckery
RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.- DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not
AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points. - After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
- Before entering the first pack
BF into 
Stealth. - Open on pack with AR into
BtE.
tight kernel
ty
light dune
in the situations where you dont get the 6th buff CTO'd whats the minimum durat...
what do you guys do here
timber knoll
Knowing this they still built an entire hero tree around it, defies belief
remote pecan
i bet someone high up at blizzard originally came up with the idea of KS and won't let any1 change it and also pushed a Hero Tree around it
upbeat tundra
Knowing this they still built an entire hero tree around it, defies belief
thats the puzzling part
prisma sapphire
i feel neutered
upbeat tundra
i mean like you had infinity chances and opportunity to make it playable yet here we are
but why
upbeat tundra
if i didnt have to hit ks im hard chillin
upbeat tundra
look if the random coin that falls out of my ass is strong enough sure