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unholy dk 500% better than every other spec 
ye thanks
I said 50%
another one of those gg
No you, I fixed it
So true
and its litteraly doing more than 50% more aoe than most specs
so
idk how
i mean
at least blizz gutted aug
contrarians
being contrarians
cause its so cool
to argue with peoples
just for fun
i mean when u look at the overall of end of keys in very high keys, unholy is definitly an outlier
you guys type things you dont even believe in
I mean even if it was only 25% better its probably a net positive for the game to address that
is it enhance s1 levels, it might even be a bit more then that?
They're a contrarian to argue. I'm a contrarian because it's my actual unfiltered dogshit opinion
i feel like u can pull bigger this season which doesnt help, and people are once again pulling packs onto bosses
which unholy always loves
I dont think anyone is genuinely arguing that its a "good" thing to have some specs be way better than others
obviously in an ideal world they should be much closer
my tank did a cinderbew 10 route thats smallest pack was like 10 targets
the whole key
If u disagree with zac it's because you are a contrarian who doesn't believe what they say โ
why am i target capped man
unholy just need that proc nerfed
Im gona assume m+ balance is mostly from 2. They want to fix it but its lower priority than other work
You yourself don't believe in what you type
You will type these kind of shit then tweet about the opposite lmao no capo
Yeah our aoe sucks it shouldn't be target capped and if it was, unholy would still beat it.
the season will end in X months
I believe everything I say
new tier will come out
blizzard really sucks at tuning around uncapped shit and the specs that always suffer the most for it are the ones who just for some reason never recovered from the great target cappening
moreso then even raw tuning idk
King shit
yeah thats def true
whats the downside to softcapping everything
Nothing
Outlaw does more damage than tanks
hurts fire mage main character syndrome
raid target counts almost never even reach into softcap territory
according to reddit is "every class is the same now"
my favorite shoes
it would change basically nothing about raid instances

Wait till guy start saying uncapped damage is irrelevant again
I mean we can talk about target cap but mm capped at 5 and doing a lot more than us so thats tuning at its peak
Well it's not so
mm
Good try tho
this isnt true
mm is not capped
yea not all skills
they do 40% more dps on first pull of brewery then they do on an 8 target pull
are capped
this is some weird fake news that mm hunters spread
u fell for the fake news propaganda
They want outlaw players to be punished there is no other answer
according to wowhead (comments)
outlaw is really op rn

its not just outlaw though
outlaw dunks on low keys
honestly
I don't remember spreading this misinformation
did u know
What
the last sin buff
Someone's on my turf
it was way bigger than it was on patch notes
mm will be like yea im target capped bro, i burst for 15m on 5 targets and 25m on 18 targets
mm also actually does damage on lower target count (that isnt 2)
imagine doing 15mil on 6 targets
they fucked up coding

Bro stop talking to me about sin
and buffed spatter
I cba
these people dont understand true caps
and everything
Zeross is here guys for daily sin update go go zeross
Ye I heard
this is otulaw noob


do they keep slowmoding you in assa channel?
crazy how
is that why you come here?
why do u even post in here
make sin have more apm
u havent played law in how long
TRUE un cap
no one cares about assa

u legit just yap about how good sin is
MM Is capped but they have spells that are also uncapped
and how much u love sin 24/7
and then try to trigger zac because he tries to play the spec he likes
its pretty cringe bro ngl
Got mythic sprocketmonger jetpack to go really fast with
ur the only person saying that
but ok
zac knows im not trying to trigger him when im talking about sin buffs
he just hates sin
thats all
If you love assa so much why don't you marry it?
its been like a month straight of u only typing about sin in here idk
is the sin channel that dead
cringe
sin is boring, my adhd needs more
If sin had outlaw apm omg
i dont think sin is slow in m+
st sin inbetween cds you can just go get a drink
how can people play that spec and not fall asleep
If sin had outlaw apm I'd be there
yes its fine in aoe
well fine if you like multidotting
i like fury, i like outlaw give me APM
sin is more hectic than outlaw sometimes even
you always have shit to press
its not easy to play
but st is the worst gameplay in the game rn
psure sin is apm capped in aoe and slow in st
it has its nuances you gotta learn for sure
weran
their resources scale directly with target count no?
sin also very hard
very much yes
me press 1 global every 5s
ok now
Can you apply bleeds with mouseover macro? I was thinking the other day.
yes
can u stop with the things u just make up with ur head
Ez
sin aoe is hard in an unejoyable way
because all the sin builds in simc are way slower than the ones we play in high keys
plate spinning
did i do good?https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/86431915?difficulty=5 look at ilvl aswell please
if sin got rid of the energy starve or had a feedback loop like outlaw id be all over it more
sin aoe is easy af, everything auto spreads 
Theres no plate spinning until like, 18s
this is a link to an unholy dk
in low keys sure
yes

u can say that
try playing sin in a +18
good lukc
sin is a whole different world in higher keys
good luck getting invited yea
than a +10
watch the only mythic report of my unholy dk
me when I can't read
I literally farted
nah bro I am trying to play outlaw in a 14 but I dont get invites
me when brew first pack is pulled and i cant find my dm mob ๐

the bleed build is fun in AOE
Me but GS mob
cooked as cow
i hate kingsbane
your build is slower in st than the bleed one tho ๐ฎ
And its all the time
you couldnt read first
oh shit
owned noob
and 43apm
with off gcd's
fast class
zac sent an rpg
what is plate spinning?
sheeeeeeeeeeeeesh
now i need to know why you swapped in the first place on ol
what does apm have to do with plate spinning?
@vivid vessel wanna do keys
Kick
i mean
i told you
i wont do high keys
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
zac cant do keys with all these damn bugs
17s
And i spam tab until I find the right target
and an 18 or 2
Maybe he counts selecting targets in apm formula
not that high
i will die on cd
Because I refuse to click
and i will feel bad
u wont die on a 17 bro
i prefer doing that with pugs
17 is free
pugs are npcs
bro i cant ever click on a specific mob in a pack of 20 so i dont bother unless its my focus target
bro
i dont care about embarassing myself in front of npcs
we join ez key
bro

wdym
we can push my key if you want idk
imagine trying to q as 1 rogue
my score is way higher than every pug
now add another
we are not joining keys as double rogue
I tried stacking nameplates and I don't like my screen full of name plates so I turn it off.
@slim yew
way worse than you dying due to ks
ye well
true
doesnt matter
shit wrong ping
we arent joining keys as double rogue
see
thanks to the BF bug wowhead posts, outlaws wont get invited into keys anymore and it'l force blizzard to fix us
even cat guy agree's
anyway zac, is kir better now with deft fix?
๐
ok
if you wanna play
ok
and zeross
login
waiting paitently for stream ๐
I have the same gear as you
pressure ?
yer stream it zeross
noob
noob u not me
zeross be like
I bet Zeross doesn't even like Tom and Jerry
waiting for priory 18
priory trinket on 678*

I can see zeross being Guy from naruto
Ye
GUY
IS THE
MOST AMAZING
PERSON
IN THE PLANET
LEGIT MY FAVORITE NARUTO CHARECTER
thanks
HOLY FUCK MAN
his last fight was a banger
np
Guy is a G
GOPFDLNK;HMA GDSA;LOPIHBKMEATDHNOBATEDIGL;'KMHJNATE DIKL'HBTAEM HTKELHP
his dad is sick too
OMG

np
Might Duy
I forget there are dudes out there named Guy
zac turned on his stream before you im not watching you now checkmate bozo o7
???????????????????????
Actually wild
bleh!
Well. Guy is still better than common celebrity names haha
ye well i dont have 17 resi
Can I
Sin rogue only starts getting good in 18s+
zac
trust
ye playing with team everyday now
whoever doesnt react to this gets perma banned @EVERY0NE
okok
its zeross
jarvis edit out "menial laborer damage" for DFC recap
youd be suprised
does anyone play sub in keys
chat, show me this guy's balls
rem btw
uye true ross is the master padder
my build revolves around dealing dmg to good targets
not pad targets
not kidding
its legit that
I play sub against a target dummy. Does that count?
censi is a mage main now btw
"Maybe sub hits now."
"Nope"
ye idc i wanna p
Censi plays frost I think
Did we have a .7 patch last season?
Icr
Did they fix vault bug, I don't hear any dupes
They fixed a while back
https://imgur.com/4RHRcRZ @proven ocean your titles are so cooked man 
Coo
boring title
click bait
feels like im reading a wowhead article
Zac what's your title
fix everything
basically
Try to cook outlaw
Amazing
hello zero
Burnt dog poo
@proven ocean 
i m here zero
figured
secret cook
ofc
Please?
Finding filtered words on accident is like stepping on a land mine
Real
and true
pays rent

I'd also have to log into twitch and I ain't doin all that
I'll watch vicariously through screenshots posted here
And Zeross when he
Types
Likes
This
It's like I'm there
Cba
seeing zac run away from dead bodies is peak LMFAO
Okay fine I'll watch
outlaw is now a 90s cd class
Can you vanish giga wallop?
boss time oh man
Guys don't forget
yes, stuff like freedom also immunes it. need a spell what immunes slows
this MM hunter is doing 0 damage to this boss
zac had missed like 3 minecarts 0.5s off with kspree
im just waiting for him to get splattered

greedy mf
Zac and zeross are like Ryu and Ken from street fighter so nobody gonna beat them
u gotta respect it

@proven ocean you died
zac Kiring a 5 buff without waiting for CtO smh
that was a tactical death btw
"16s are free"
and it made the last 25s of zacs 6 buff time out while the healer and ross ran back
very tactical and respected

TACTICAL DEATH 2.0
rossbros it's not looking good
Zeross not taking seriously its a low key guys cmon
Howโs it looking with the latest bugfix in
all that assa play made him slow
hes crashing out
I know he has disc open on his other screen too
he's reading chat rn
holy fuk these ksprees r so greedy, kspree during stun swirls and fire swirl overlap
got steam coming out of his ears
cheat off cd
I play kir fate in keys this morning it was fun
its tactical
cheat is for ks
sin rogue bad! doing tank damage!
o the healer quit
why is the healer not in zacs frames
LOL
healer left due to ross
Lmaooo
theres NO WAY

That's amazing
that first boss was cinematic
zac had the greediest sprees ive seen
legit doging minecarts with like 1 yard clearance
outlaw >sin
then ross just gets mowed down right at the end
zeross 
zeross paid to healer for leave and not lose, smart
r u pc zac?
reverse boosting services courtesy of ross
no
ye cause of the bug
idd
will try again after
i feel a bit sketch trying it
knowing theres quite a few packs its probably losing value on
u give up so much for it
have been not certain about pc
for so long
i just needed a reason tbh
it just sims like 5% ahead
i feel u
based\
feels awful
i play kir
ghostly strike is just a bad button bro
who has that gm weak aura
i hate GS
yes, ks aswell
I cant find the gear to get to 19% haste though
so the vanish has to be right when it goes off im guessing?
i'll brush off kir once this GM thing is fixed
dont really wanna play around it tho
i failed the first one cuase i just woke up
RUN AWAY FROM THE CORPSES ZAC
look at all those greedy mf on the ground slurping up the BF damage
the madman
apparently this trinket doesnt work on FDK
like the next 3 abilities
doesnt count fdk stuff
lol
lmao
a mine cart HATES to see ross coming 
Another one
think zeross got some cleave on the floor from zac
LOL
thats so good
Why is tomelvis running house of cards
hoc is fine in aoe
key is prolly over
especially for kir
Does Zeross know you're suppose to live through a boss fight?
is zero a second rate zac rogue player?
second healer rage quit inc?
tbf i think ross only died cause healer died
but sin issue tbh
squishiest rogue spec
๐
he got melee'd lol
I thought Zero died first
SO CLOSE
@vivid vessel can you share the WA youre using for boss mechanics/timers in that ring around your character? That thing is amazing. Aaaaalso the KS duration wa?
no
im not sharing
the cooks
i told you
bruvvvv
outlaw > sin
Did healer stay?
oh hell yea
Ads
ye zeross left tho
that healer was probably like "never joining a double rogue key again. outlaw is just too bad gg"
yes
its the tww dungeon but
its biss
heavely edited
its amazing
just make sure you never select all and loadl > unload
ty ty ty
kk
its not really pretty whatever
I do the same
i mean
I was gona say
could be honestly
certain dungeons I could see PC value maybe
like priory
especially with the bug
idk
or maybe floodgate?
but even without the bug
every pull u guys did was like 10 targets
maybe u have 3 guys alive for a bit beyond the other 8
but idk
i mena i think the comp was also good
hunter doing no damage + zeross being sin in low keys
he doesnt ghave time to ramp up
i think
- i had all buffs
now zeross is scared he wont take raid buffs anymore
gg
what can you do
nono unholy
and fuck unholy
im outlaw main why would i play meta spec
burst?
frost dk pretty good fit for outlaw mains a lot of procs. but movement is garbage
!wa
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit
Luxthos Edit
Zac's Group
Devlin
Utilities:
Combo Point Standalone
Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
Ace refund sound trigger
RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Fun:
Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
KS Ticking damage taken
u aint seen anything yet
eh
just highroll harder and do 49m burst
fdk rotation is insanely dull
DONDE ES DE FIXES
hey guys is it possible to bypass the bf bug by repressing bf during bigpulls? noticing a slight difference in my dmg since im more aware of it
which bf bug
so does raidbots reflect the deft maneuvers change?
the hitting dead mobs one? no
this is my gear, most of it is champion track
or was it simming as if deft was working fine before
just try to move away from corpses
the GM bug? yes u need to cast a BF with GM up to get the value
yes
correctifs de bogues
love playing a spec with like 15% damage variance on key by key basis

when are non stupid classes meta again
also btw bandit ring is mastery crit AND SPEED, and +1 luck is bis as a night elf
whats the ! for GM WA?
!bug
[Outlaw bug Thread](#1276315296159760467 message)
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit
Luxthos Edit
Zac's Group
Devlin
Utilities:
Combo Point Standalone
Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
Ace refund sound trigger
RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Fun:
Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
KS Ticking damage taken
i tried
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so basicly it stays hitting dead targets even if u re apply bf?
bummer
Folliaโฆ
@glass mortar
this gm bug

i swear its like
a dps increase
but it feels
sooooo bad
bro
yes
soooo bad
i mean for HO
im there as kir
absolutely
not rolling gm
for kir bit tougher
i locked in a GM buff from first pull al the way to last boss of priory last night zac
didnt drop or recast BF once
ye
just had "gm" the whole key
i know
its mega op as ho
i mean i think its good as kir aswell
like its a dps gain
certainly
but it feels so ass
gotta figure out some other goofy bullshit we can snapshot to bf
look at this pack
i do not press bf a single time
wanted to kill myself

and im doing 7mil dps
i have no idea how
i think its legit just cause
"i have gm"
how strong is gm in aoe
is it 10% increase in aoe
its not
its 10% of like 50% of your damage
its not even that much or
well
also 5 % dmg
with the bug
o
ye true
i mean in target cap aoe as trickster
BF is like 79% of ur aoe or
bit more then 50%
ye
so its not THAT strong
hmm
is it even worth not pressing bf
for kir Do you think it would be a good idea to keep up this bug related to BF?
idk
thats pretty strong idk
hm
isnt the whole of the deft talent like 7% dps lol
let me sim deft
i can do that at least
easy
@glass mortar
ye i guess its like
hard to say if you should bf or not
i feel like maybe you bf if you are struggling with energy/buffs/procs
otherwise try to hold gm
ye hm
is it another crafted item week?
legit only 1 pi was on my cds
i feel like i did good
all other pi's were without deathmark
i mean
enhance was not

look at first pack
btw this tank
is way better than last one
ye u have to stack those
just an outlaw issue
so
we are just facing the wrong way
its his 2nd dh
lol for what
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxO6YlHFVT2KkxM-MQjk059rW2uypzCmP3?si=Wc_cBPsb1uZ6LMoo @glass mortar @proven ocean
look at this clip
full buffs
i should be blasting
look at my dps
going down
so fast

idk
all my damage is getting eaten there
u only got what
i can guarantee it
6 buffs
mid dead bodies
full ace proc
etc
xdd
what spell
tempest
ye but zac
itll be harder to tell of softcapped stuff is effected honestly
what if shaman has same as bladeflurry issue
it is funny everytime i see ur tank pulling mobs near dead bodies im like OH NO ZAC RUN
we r afraid of corpses now ig
tempest may hit the before soft cap into dead bodies
thats what i mean
the main cleave of the tempest
can be wasted
could also happen to splatter right
i mean any spell with these flags could be doing this
easy to check , see if it has the target dead bodies thing in the spell data
like bf did
can u check if spatter has same issue as bladeflurry @gaunt phoenix
with the 5 targets
into softcap
do the extra hits deal damage as crash lightning
so wait a second
nvm lmao
they fixed the initial cast dmg on deft
see anything suspicious @glass mortar ?
yes? it's an easy fix
the other ones are perhaps not so simple
the fix is simple - uncap 
HUH
nice
omg
which part of the pull was that
cant believe this is real for years
the clip i sent
man all these poor dungeon npcs popping up in shadowlands then their anima is dying
and they check combat log
"mf why is bf still hitting me???"
do the most prio damage you can do
yea i wouldnt be surprised
zac do u guys veen have a under target cap pull in that darkflame
ur perma draggong low hp mobs onto of big hp elite aoe pulls
idk prolly not
some packs i PUMP SO HARD
Under there
wdym remember






