#outlaw

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pearl trout
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i think the safest moment to KS during Swampface is just before you get chained

tulip jewel
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i use it over feint

sour fossil
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no meme answer though you can use it once after dodge movement and once at the end of wave phase

proven ocean
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@lone crow u played master assassin on mugzee? is it better?

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also why?

sour fossil
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with good rng you can get 2 uses per phase

gaunt phoenix
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but also i tried changing KS to 2 minute cooldown and it was also around a 4% loss lol

which i guess sort of models delaying ks

vivid vessel
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and i need to find a kelp boss uhm

tardy flint
frail veldt
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thats surprising

proven ocean
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chat

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im raiding

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and everytime

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u guys send a msg

frail veldt
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1:30 to 2min feels like it would be big

proven ocean
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i turn my head left

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to the 2nd monitor

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im so tired

gaunt phoenix
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lmao

proven ocean
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plz stop typing

frail veldt
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crazy

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if only

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there

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was

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a

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way

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to

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close

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discord

proven ocean
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but

frail veldt
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but that would be crazy

gaunt phoenix
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i cant have RH open during gameplay

proven ocean
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if i close discord i wont hear my raid

tulip jewel
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raid distraction spam

pearl trout
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ipad kid looking ass

frail veldt
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instead everyone else in this entire community should stop typing

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right now

gaunt phoenix
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just swap to a different server

frail veldt
proven ocean
frail veldt
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LOL

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well I dont want to stop typing

tardy flint
gaunt phoenix
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is that the famous Tomelvis

lone crow
tulip jewel
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setup AI to raid for you, so you can focus on the important things like talk trash in the outlaw channel

vivid vessel
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cba checking if i played well on the fights

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but i usually do

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so it should be alright

proven ocean
tardy flint
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ya I can see on duo where you stood behind the lines guy before KS

proven ocean
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btw

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anythng

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double passive

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thats crazy tech

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no cappi

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how come no signet?

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like

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usually u have alot in raid that have it

lone crow
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because it sims worse lol

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mythic EoK on that fightlength is crazy

vivid vessel
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especially since only p2 matters

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if you guys are talking about myug

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idk

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didnt read

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ross yap too much

lone crow
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p2 matters ye but we already played the zugzug strat where u wanna have good p1 dmg as well

vivid vessel
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I mean

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its not hard to get the dps check right

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we did it last week fairly easely

lone crow
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it was pre health nerf

vivid vessel
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had to hold dps

lone crow
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now its piss easy

fallen knot
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wtb prays for me on stix tonight, willing to spend a billion if enough prays let us kill it

lone crow
vivid vessel
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ye you mean before bombs right

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or even beofre

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idk

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i dont remeber when we pushed this reset

hollow temple
lone crow
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before going onto the bomb side ye, around 4min we pushed

vivid vessel
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ye we pushed at 3min56

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thats the outlaw damage baby

lone crow
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i mean ye u had the health nerfs

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no?

vivid vessel
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not even kiding no cap

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vivid vessel
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we raided just after

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i think

lone crow
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ye that changed a lot

vivid vessel
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4 days ag o?

lone crow
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but 2x evoker also big p1 dam

vivid vessel
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look at that outlaw guy tho

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so based

tulip jewel
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dmg buff next reset

proven ocean
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@lone crow we also need p1 dmg

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ngl

lone crow
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outlaw so op

vivid vessel
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frfr

cinder relic
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Sin is the best spec in the game on mugzee, other than maybe dev (which is the best spec in the game) and arms

proven ocean
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guys

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this is foreverguy

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im his biggest fan

vivid vessel
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guys wtf

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forerverguy is here

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wowhead guide writter

gaunt phoenix
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wowhead writer foreverguy

vivid vessel
heady python
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Fellas, is blade flurry still acting goofy?

gaunt phoenix
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yer

vivid vessel
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my lil fella

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bf is the goofiest it ever been

hollow temple
proven ocean
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foreverguy writer wowhead

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!

gaunt phoenix
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foreverhead guywriter wow

proven ocean
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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guyhead foreverwow writer

gaunt phoenix
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wasnt that funny i think

vivid vessel
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iuts zeross

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dw about it

quaint wharf
proven ocean
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i almost had my stomach explode

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fuck fuck werepullinb

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rb

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rbr

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br

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b

gaunt phoenix
tardy flint
# vivid vessel cba checking if i played well on the fights

after looking at both vods I think its def a combination of pre-positioning and low CP KS on those bosses, you're definitely coming out of KS faster than I was, and that'd help a lot with not coming out of KS into death. I'll keep that in mind on my next run, thanks!

vivid vessel
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this guy is paying for wcl Point

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gaunt phoenix
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he's also playing KIR where KS is longer thinkingr

tulip jewel
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that's not the only thing that KiR increases the length of

gaunt phoenix
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true

vivid vessel
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facts

fallen knot
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can uhdk be stronger than any shaman dps spec in bosses 5 to 8?

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i got pretty bored of my shaman

merry harness
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How can u see that he pays?

vivid vessel
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ah nvm im dumb he doesnt

gaunt phoenix
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fatpala catching strays

vivid vessel
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thats just new display i tought it was showing individual parses per bosses

gaunt phoenix
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man just wants to game

vivid vessel
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mb fatpala king

tulip jewel
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we made sure outlaw came out on top of all rogue specs on sprocket last night bros, don't worry

merry harness
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Also i think it would only show individual bosses if YOU payed

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no mater if he pays or not

vivid vessel
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nah

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it shows indiv if you paid

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for the others aswell

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otherwise why would you pay

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for something only you can see

merry harness
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True i guess

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kinda cringe

hollow temple
# vivid vessel

Someone has to be the average for the top to be able to be the top

tulip jewel
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it basically is something only you can see if you're seeing daily updated info and they're seeing week old info

hollow temple
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🔥

quaint wharf
gaunt phoenix
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for the top to be able to be the top

hollow temple
vivid vessel
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bet trickz is a bottom

hollow temple
gaunt phoenix
tulip jewel
tight kernel
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You guys prefer CTO+GS or PC+GS for keys

quaint wharf
gaunt phoenix
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i would lean towards cto gs for at least higher keys

tulip jewel
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PC does kinda help you catch up on overall in pack cleanup

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really depends on your comp

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run all 3 with 1fth YAPPP

gaunt phoenix
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removing CTO is also gamba

quaint wharf
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youre just the janitor Sadge

gaunt phoenix
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it can be done but

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might have some low moments

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CTO is also bugged tbf

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we never talk about this but

tulip jewel
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what isn't bugged at this point?

fathom bramble
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the container behavior is probably all 1 big bug

gaunt phoenix
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when RTB buffs stay behind for no reason it's only with CTO talented

fathom bramble
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guess it's more like 50/50 depending on the pull size

quaint wharf
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vault tmmrw

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cant wait to get socket HOLY

gaunt phoenix
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ye socket

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Why are sockets so low value

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they used to be at least somewhat desirable

fathom bramble
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idk they just gave us terrible gems this time

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compared to last expac

tulip jewel
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need new gems every season

gaunt phoenix
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in legion they used to give us new gems every tier yeah?

tulip jewel
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pretty odd there isn't new gems/chants

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corruption i guess YEP

quaint wharf
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oh yeah

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honestly forgot about that

vivid vessel
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@glass mortar second boss priory n

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but without pc

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thoughts

gaunt phoenix
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are we gonna swap enchants for raid vs keys or

vivid vessel
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i think i know solo

gaunt phoenix
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just use ST corruption in keys

vivid vessel
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why i was doing 0 damage on second boss priory soemtimes

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cuase its 2 target

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so you dont press bf

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so you have no gm

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the whole fight

frank finch
gaunt phoenix
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yea sure

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oh you are kir yeah

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took me a second

fathom bramble
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which corruptions are even good

vivid vessel
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I mean doesnt matter if im kir or not

fathom bramble
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I think they changed them twice since I last looked

vivid vessel
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bro

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this affix

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omeglaul

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its breaking

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stelath

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on cd

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haha

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why tf am i doing

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a 10 key

gaunt phoenix
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well yeah but HO would have snapshot GM at the start of the key and never let BF expire anyway

proven ocean
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zac

vivid vessel
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most toxic shit ever

proven ocean
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thats wghat im talking about

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outlaw+sin+udk

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is OP

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we have to try it later

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after BF fix tho

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also

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stop running cheat death

fathom bramble
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wish I was allowed to worm into a Zeross key

proven ocean
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cuz i dont want u to die to everymechanic

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xdd ur NA tho or

gaunt phoenix
fathom bramble
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definitely twilight dev in keys then

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right

vivid vessel
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im not doing high keys

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tilld they fix ks

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you saying this

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show you havent played outlaw this season

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i play cheat so i dont die to every mechanic

gaunt phoenix
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yeah though they have changed twilight dev target scaling once or twice, might do it again

tulip jewel
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selling t3 twilight dev boe 10m

gaunt phoenix
tulip jewel
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those pay to win days

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and the corruption vendor 6 months too late

frail veldt
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I hate not having evasion dr though

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cuz feint costs energy lol

proven ocean
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yuou officially die more often than me in m+?

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?!?!?!

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i see i see zac

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zac the m+ release master

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guys

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if u need release spirit tips

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zac is an expert on that field

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also how come u guys stopped typing

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do u care about my neck that much sheeesh

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u all are so kind cuh

vivid vessel
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bro

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you have no idea

wintry solar
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Yall hear something?

vivid vessel
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how it is

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to play ks in keys rn

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i look like a fool

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24/7

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i dont wanna run keys with real people

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pugs is fine

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its like playing with npcs

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you dont see them after

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i coudlnt care less

vivid vessel
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i think

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you guys

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have too much ego

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you cant play ks

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you just have to realize that

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no one can play ks

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you are a noob

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just play cheat

reef forge
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im greeding no cheat, i just take the -100% damage decrease

frank finch
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does stone form get rid of ks dot?

gaunt phoenix
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naw

late swallow
# vivid vessel just play cheat

Im just gonna say that I perfect mechanics and cheat always went to waste. Yes it will come in handy if I'm tired but mostly not used at all. So I took elusive. Last words no cap.

gaunt phoenix
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did you work

late swallow
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Yeah I finished my project

reef forge
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4 hours of straight work

gaunt phoenix
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nice

late swallow
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Focus time I was in the zone

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Back to shitposting WICKED

gaunt phoenix
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schizoposting

vivid vessel
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solo do you

late swallow
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I mostly shit post

vivid vessel
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i think its one of the first ryuk pasta

gaunt phoenix
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idk it sounds like ryu

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okk

vivid vessel
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one of the first one

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a banger

frail veldt
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so gold

late swallow
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I've got a bunch of them saved

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he's the goat

frail veldt
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last words no cap

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is an insane sign off

late swallow
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he's built diff

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one of the best to ever do it

vivid vessel
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should i just buy a 10 boost for my alt

late swallow
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Yo guys its me Ryukage.

I have joined the genocide of killingspree. Please prayge for me and my family that I do not die too many times and get blocked by too many meta players in pugs.

Thank you.

frail veldt
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truly is

vivid vessel
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there is no wya you push your key right

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you just get a 10 boosted so you have a key

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and then its ok

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do i have resilient on alt

desert tendon
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yea stop playing cheat death zac

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just play death now

frail veldt
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do you have resil on alts?

proven ocean
frail veldt
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I dont think so

proven ocean
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on how he plays with elusiveness

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and KS

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lmaoao?

frail veldt
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I play with elus and ks

proven ocean
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cooked

frail veldt
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Im just conservative about ks

vivid vessel
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he is better

vivid vessel
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i know

frail veldt
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also I think HO ks is less dangerous

proven ocean
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we can tell

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me and zac

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imagine

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both of us

vivid vessel
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iomagine

proven ocean
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can tell ur bad

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thoughts?

vivid vessel
proven ocean
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mewo?

frail veldt
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sorry I have all assa mains blocked

proven ocean
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but

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zac isnt

vivid vessel
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you blocked me ?

proven ocean
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lmaoao?

desert tendon
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i'd block zac

frail veldt
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nah I would never block a true outlaw player

desert tendon
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cuz is an ass main

vivid vessel
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tyty cuh

desert tendon
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but not an assa

frail veldt
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only the fotm rogue rerollers

desert tendon
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just an ass

vivid vessel
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what is you guys favorite key this season

frail veldt
vivid vessel
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ye same

frail veldt
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and floodgate up until sewers

vivid vessel
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i hesitate with flood

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ye

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same

frail veldt
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floodgate pre sewers

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is BANGER

vivid vessel
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flood without sewers

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lmao

fathom bramble
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I would rather never walk into floodgate again

late swallow
vivid vessel
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idk why they had to ruin that dungeon with the sewers man

gaunt phoenix
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you like rookery over floodgate?

vivid vessel
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i hate roojkery

late swallow
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the only pre-sewers flood shit I don't like are the carpenters

vivid vessel
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terribly designed dungeon

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anti melee

fathom bramble
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I'm a big pull hater

vivid vessel
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i cnat ks

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anywhere

fathom bramble
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so I hate floodgate for extra reasons that don

vivid vessel
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ok but

fathom bramble
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don't exist in rookery

vivid vessel
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every dungeon is big pull

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whatr can you do

desert tendon
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flood is a nice dungeon

vivid vessel
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also i feel like flood is reasonable

proven ocean
fathom bramble
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first pull straight out the gates in floodgate is like 14 mobs

vivid vessel
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its not mewdory

proven ocean
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u dont even know what a fotm is mewo

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lmao

desert tendon
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1 healing boss, 1 funnel boss, 1 2targets boss, and 1 st boss

vivid vessel
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and the pulls in floodgates have like 1 casters

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even when there is 15 mobs

desert tendon
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all packs have prio targets

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banger

late swallow
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best m+ boss this season?

fathom bramble
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I want all packs to be 4-6 mobs

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or I don't want to enter the key

desert tendon
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lok wanna play classic

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fr fr

frail veldt
late swallow
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first boss rook is sick because when I press sectech during the middle phase, nothing happens

frail veldt
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EXCEPT

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for the nail gun

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hitting you

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from stealth

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before you get in range

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HOLY fuck

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thats so annoying

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0/10

gaunt phoenix
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i like floodgate first boss

frail veldt
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same

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outlaw boss fr fr

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sub actually goes ham there too

mild vigil
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just don't think about assassination

late swallow
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pvp ToP boss is kinda fun

gaunt phoenix
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as outlaw?

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the chain grab is way too long

late swallow
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sub specifically

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cc chaining your homie and extending the duel phase

frail veldt
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only top boss I like is the abom

gaunt phoenix
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i do like theater tho

frail veldt
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same for the most part

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not too many casters

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shit like rookery is way overcooked

late swallow
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the pull mobs in rook are not fun

frail veldt
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the hallway in rookery is brutal in general

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vacuum + circle + leaps

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AND kicks on top

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its brutal

quaint wharf
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dfc 1st boss is chill

covert kestrel
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WERE LIVE BOYZ

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GRATS @cinder relic @gaunt phoenix

proven ocean
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GRATS @ForeverGuy @gaunt phoenix

covert kestrel
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OUTLAW IS SAVED

proven ocean
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finally

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BF is fixed

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lets gooooooooooooo

frail veldt
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WOW

gaunt phoenix
frail veldt
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That was so fast holy

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Realz came in hot

proven ocean
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cuh

frail veldt
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Aww

proven ocean
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frontier planned it and i executed ez

frail veldt
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Damn that was impressive

proven ocean
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post is up tho

frail veldt
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You lied

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And I believed you

covert kestrel
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i mean i was just saying the article was live, wasnt trying to mislead PepegaShake

desert tendon
gentle geyser
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I can’t believe the blade flurry buff is finally determined as real

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We’ve been talking about that shit for a while

lime lake
gentle geyser
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I remember everyone freaking out last season on that pull after second boss in city of threads

mellow thicket
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how long did it take for demon hunter to be fixed? once they hit the front page?

gentle geyser
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and us all saying it wasn’t a bug in the end

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😔

near holly
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gj nerds. ❤️

gentle geyser
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WERE NOT SCHIZOPHRENIC 💔

mellow thicket
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Foreverguy is the GOAT

pearl girder
mellow thicket
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lmfao how many times is this gonna be posted

near holly
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this is the path. the bug will be too annoying to fix. so softcap inc.

mellow thicket
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softcap would be amazing, maybe?

late swallow
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really good write-up

frail veldt
late swallow
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sending this to the NYT

red zinc
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the bf thing has been conspiracied for too long

cinder relic
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The bug likely isn't hard to fix

mellow thicket
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i like the last barb being killing spree is already dangerous

frail veldt
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yeah very concise writeup

red zinc
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Glad theres finally a root cause

near holly
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i mean. hack fixing bugs is the normal. shhh let me dream

fallen knot
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maybe they instead of fixing it the right way they just uncap it

frail veldt
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but yeah the "allow dead" flag is prob just gona be removed

fallen knot
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so that

red zinc
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although I still don’t think its the only thing

gaunt phoenix
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yeah the bugs probably didnt happen with 11.1.5 but oh well

fallen knot
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it still hits dead targets

frail veldt
mellow thicket
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wowhead attention = fixes for the love of god

red zinc
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even in everbloom in df

tight kernel
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Im sending that wowhead article to my dad at blizzard

sour fossil
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Bro I am so sad I just got the wowhead news post thing, will probably be the only time we see blade flurry in a wowhead title for the next 4 years

frail veldt
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Im not sure it was a thing in EB

gentle geyser
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Idk about everbloom but

gaunt phoenix
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the grand melee thing could be new for whatever reason

gentle geyser
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season 1 definitely we were talking about it

frail veldt
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GM could have been forever yeah

mellow thicket
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solo was the elevation theory on bladeflurry true, or couldnt be defined?

late swallow
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who the fuck is Justguy?

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vale warren
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He's just a guy

gentle geyser
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@cinder relic

cinder relic
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Its my wowhead account

desert tendon
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it s justguy

frail veldt
gaunt phoenix
mellow thicket
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so was confirmed, only one

gentle geyser
late swallow
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this shit's got me fucked up!

quaint wharf
mellow thicket
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start a go fund me for foreverguy! lets fucking riot

gentle geyser
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Is it trying to hit dead targets as a priority or something or just whatever is closest to your character?

late swallow
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response from blizz: "don't pull near dead targets 5Head "

viral bison
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does ping really matter that much on outlaw?

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its like i can reach 0.8 apm

gaunt phoenix
bright crane
red zinc
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who’s betting on a new bug being born into existence when this one gets fixed

frail veldt
vale warren
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Somehow coup bug returns

viral bison
frail veldt
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the fix seems simple

gaunt phoenix
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So it's noticeable in the massive pulls where 37 random mobs die before others

viral bison
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do we agot another?

mellow thicket
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was demon hunter stealth fixed post article complaint or were there notes

bright crane
red zinc
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it now only hits alive targets (undead are no longer damaged)

mellow thicket
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its just 1s and 0s dog lol

gentle geyser
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Nice work guy

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Average guy W

bright crane
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I’ll bring this up at the best shareholder meeting

mellow thicket
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lolololol

bright crane
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Earnings call is on 4/30

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Be on the look out for a section about OL rogue

plucky rose
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tomorrow？

mellow thicket
runic gulch
gaunt phoenix
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he's right

quaint wharf
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ret icon

red zinc
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this is why we hate ret paladins

quaint wharf
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opinion invalidated

runic gulch
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Ofc he’s ret

mellow thicket
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everyone needs to post on the article

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to garner attention?

patent mirage
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get the pitchforks

magic shuttle
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based oppinion

patent mirage
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we need moonkin levels of whining

bright crane
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“My wife left me because my DPS was too low on the first pull of cinderbrew. Thanks a lot BLIZZARD”

mellow thicket
gentle geyser
vivid vessel
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this title is fake

mellow thicket
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gave up outlaw and started drinking again

vivid vessel
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wont complain tho

gentle geyser
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THEN DIES 10x WITH ALL DEFENSIVES UP

vivid vessel
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more clicks

red zinc
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zac was the shit in df (everbloom first pull and what not) also because of this

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Or was that an actual conspiracy

gaunt phoenix
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ye ill allow it

mellow thicket
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what cant ping realz on discord, but can ping him in wowhead articles.

gentle geyser
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outlaw was PERFECT in dragonflight NO BUGS whatsoever

mild vigil
patent mirage
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spaghoot code

gaunt phoenix
gentle geyser
gaunt phoenix
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dw

wintry solar
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A nice trip to italy

mellow thicket
gaunt phoenix
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before the article even

gentle geyser
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Wait when was it acknowledged and by who

bright crane
gentle geyser
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realz came in and said something????

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our blizzard overlord???

frail veldt
wintry solar
#

"Nice catch"

gentle geyser
#

LETS GOOOOOOOO

vivid vessel
wintry solar
#

Something like that

vivid vessel
#

i didnt check df logs

frail veldt
#

in response to solos post finding that bf can hit dead targets

frail veldt
#

we were looking at fall first pack

red zinc
#

I mean I remember u talking about it

vivid vessel
#

ok but

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you didnt

frail veldt
#

but I dont think we were as thorough

gentle geyser
#

That’s insane

vivid vessel
#

its harder when you dont know what to look for

mellow thicket
gaunt phoenix
#

naw

red zinc
#

Man I wouldve timed that 29 EB otherwise

#

Scammed

bright crane
#

Blizz owes you game time

hollow portal
#

Suppose Blizzard fixes the bug, is it more or less known how much DPS we are gaining?

red zinc
#

they owe me 10 rio points on my season 3 profile

mild vigil
#

🙂

hollow portal
vivid vessel
gaunt phoenix
vivid vessel
#

if i look at recent keys i did

fathom bramble
#

it's basically unknown since you can't easily put a realistic value on the damage lost from corpses

proven ocean
#

@vivid vessel OMG

vivid vessel
#

for the bf wrong targeting thing

proven ocean
#

HOW COME UR DOING +10S

mellow thicket
#

what database is this from wowhead?

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proven ocean
#

+10 IS SO BORING MAN

fathom bramble
#

it will depend on how your pulling and where your standing

proven ocean
#

HOW +10

#

???

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ZAC

#

?

red zinc
#

calm down mr mouse

vivid vessel
fathom bramble
vivid vessel
#

and i dont wanna play outlwa

proven ocean
#

remember in DF when u kept @ ing me 100 times a day for doing +10s

fathom bramble
#

datamining powers

gaunt phoenix
proven ocean
#

zac

#

?

mellow thicket
#

hi

proven ocean
#

xdd ?

mellow thicket
#

zero

twilit nest
#

Zeross i love you

proven ocean
#

hi cookie

#

i mean

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mookie

mellow thicket
#

l

#

o

#

l

twilit nest
#

Now i leave this cursed chanel

proven ocean
mellow thicket
#

outlaw stonks

proven ocean
#

l

#

o

#

l

#

true

mellow thicket
#

zac, what is this french rap song

proven ocean
#

wtf

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this song is racist

#

lmao

wintry solar
#

Evil David has returned

proven ocean
#

i dont have to be french

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to know what hes saying

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zac wtf

daring oxide
#

im pretty sure these bugs have been around longer than 11.1.5

gaunt phoenix
#

yes

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but w.e

fathom bramble
#

probably

daring oxide
#

my BF been wonky and dead since DF

wintry solar
#

That's me in there

gaunt phoenix
#

i mean that flag in spell data is lightyears old

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before legion

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idk

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if it is really that thing

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could be something changed in DF with how corpses despawn

mellow thicket
#

wait is zac french?!?!?! but he speaks angry english so well

gaunt phoenix
#

ye

#

frenchie

wintry solar
#

French

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Yeah

daring oxide
#

well french isn't very useful

gaunt phoenix
#

damn

frail veldt
#

he says he doesnt speak english as well as he yaps it

#

in discord

mellow thicket
#

wow, he like mayo with his fries

fallen knot
#

i mean he writes it very well

#

never heard him speak it tbh

frail veldt
#

same, just what hes said

plucky rose
#

He never says a word during his live streams.

fallen knot
#

his bis music is entertaining enough, no need to talk

mellow thicket
#

can we get a wowhead article for zac to speak english on twitch

fervent nest
#

Is Outlaw good yet?

red zinc
#

Check back thursday/friday

#

ptr probably then

#

96% chance that this channel will be dooming

plucky rose
#

Did Woxtoxic say anything on the channel?

quaint wharf
tough trellis
#

did yall see the outlaw rogue post on wowhead

ancient nebula
#

i guess outlaw is too good so blizz needed to put in so many bugs to make it fair in comparison to other specs^^

feral glen
#

can someone do a wa to remember to BF when GC is up?

gaunt phoenix
feral glen
plucky rose
cinder relic
#

We are on signal plotting in secret

red zinc
#

cant wait till tettles suddenly gets invited and leaks the entire group chat

languid saddle
#

dang...

gaunt phoenix
#

dw the title is kind of clickbait

#

it sucks but its not omega doom

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and not new either xd

daring oxide
#

i mean we do tank damage in big pulls

gaunt phoenix
#

we already do that

daring oxide
#

its significantly less damage

#

but 11.1.5 is clickbait part

red zinc
#

They should give outlaw a passive that turns dead mobs into ghost target dummies that only you see

#

saved

languid saddle
timber knoll
#

time to bug fix and BUFF OUTLAW

proven ocean
#

guys

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we are pulling

#

brb

bright crane
gaunt phoenix
#

true

bright crane
#

Is he wrong tho?

red zinc
#

buff melee rogue

cinder relic
red zinc
#

assa aint dwade

hushed horizon
#

Just leave it as mage

bright crane
#

So do we wanna start a betting pool for how long it’ll take to get fixed

gentle geyser
bright crane
#

A little over/under

hushed horizon
#

2 expansions

red zinc
#

tomorro gladge

upbeat tundra
#

@cinder relic sadboi

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cinder relic
patent mirage
#

" hey guys we heard your feedback so here is acro back "

bright crane
#

You wish

red zinc
#

More range to hit corpses from last pack

bright crane
#

Accro is more gone than my dad going to get cigarettes at 11pm

upbeat tundra
#

i really tried to find something else i like and i just want to play outlaw man pls i even bought ur shitty auction house mount blizzard

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patent mirage
#

imagine this , acro actually returns and you hit more dead targets

bright crane
#

You wouldn’t hit more dead targets

lime lake
#

acro uncapped but it only hits dead targets above 8

fathom bramble
#

I mean BF hits closer targets first

#

so you wouldn't hit more corpses necessarily

bright crane
#

I’d just have the chance to hit dead corpses further away from u loool

red zinc
#

i mean if the pack is 5 mobs u could

gentle geyser
#

They fix blade flurry and it only targets dead targets ❤️

#

so you do 0 damage ❤️

red zinc
#

Big pc value loss

daring oxide
#

just fukin uncap blade flurry

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simple fix

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no cap

#

thank you

upbeat tundra
#

just do something else until the bug is fixed the whole shit is fucked

tight kernel
#

someone ping me when fix is out ty

upbeat tundra
#

bugs*

hushed horizon
#

1000% damage to any forsaken players in group

gentle geyser
#

someone ping me when they delete outlaw ty ❤️

tough trellis
#

lmao if BF hits corpses thats also precise cuts nerf xdd

upbeat tundra
#

maybe if realz fixes these bugs this week he throws us a bone on killing spree

#

and then we are back

bright crane
#

Dream the impossible dream

upbeat tundra
#

i would do anything to just vibe on this spec all season like i have in the past

#

i can deal with the tank damage but ks has broke me

#

in keys anyway idk its probably fine in raid

sage lion
#

Play fatebound lol

upbeat tundra
patent mirage
#

fb needs insane amounts of cooking to come back

#

at least 2 stars

upbeat tundra
patent mirage
#

that too

upbeat tundra
#

trickster outlaw is pretty fun right now if killing spree didnt kill you

patent mirage
#

im still buffled by the thinking behind fb

#

like sin + outlaw = fb how

sinful rapids
#

yo guys, quick question on mythic bandit when the bombs spawns and fixate, can they fixate on melee and if they do can i vanish that and they will change target ?

cinder relic
#

You can

#

You might not want to

crystal musk
#

how much damage are we losing due to bugs now?

timber knoll
#

bout tree fiddy

upbeat tundra
patent mirage
#

all of it

tough trellis
patent mirage
#

we are full of bugs

sinful rapids
#

well i know i dont want to, but holding vanish on outlaw in that situation ? 😒

crystal musk
inner stump
crystal musk
patent mirage
#

starship troopers level of bugs

tight kernel
#

!haste

ornate heathBOT
#

Total stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because adr Adrenaline Rush lowers your GCD based on it, down to 0.8s at 25% haste.

The kir_charger KIR build wants 18-20% haste from rating, because its only haste buff is from talents_alacrity Alacrity.

The ho_charger HO build meets this requirement with 8-10% haste from rating because of takem Take 'em by Surprise, but the new HO + Supercharger build continues to like Haste just because of energy, so you will have to sim. Your sim may settle for KIR-levels of haste (~18%) or slightly lower.

You need to use raidbots Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use.
You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

tough trellis
#

lets be honest if u play outlaw u are playing it for the playstyle, if u cared about numbers u woulda gone sin

patent mirage
tender breach
#

the BF hitting dead targets is not a bug. Its a core programming error that needs to be fixed.

cinder relic
#

You can play video games for fun!? WHAT

cinder relic
upbeat tundra
hollow portal
#

-Fixed a bug that caused BF to not deal damage to intended targets.
-BF nerfed by 10%

*Dev Note: Outlaw is doing the intended damage, and we hope this nerf will keep it exactly where it is now.

cinder relic
#

It's not a bug, its a programming error is probs the funniest sentance I've read this week so I give you that

patent mirage
#

call in the mobile infantry

tender breach
#

bug is something minor not a fundumental error that breaks the play at all

upbeat tundra
cinder relic
#

Uh

inner stump
#

wow has a lot of programming errors lately

quaint wharf
#

what

patent mirage
#

-fixed a bug where the outlaw spec was found doing any dmg

quaint wharf
#

a bug can be minor or major

#

??

upbeat tundra
#

we took the bait i think

#

nvm

#

gg he got us

cinder relic
tender breach
#

nah I sell watermellons in the market 😮

tough trellis
upbeat tundra
#

@cinder relic maybe details is the problem

cinder relic
#

WCL and details are legit the problem

#

Even when outlaw is OP it does literaly 0 damage on big pulls

upbeat tundra
#

you might be on to somethin

vivid vessel
#

he

#

guy

#

ok

#

lok

#

look

cinder relic
#

This is just a feature of the spec, you can say thats terrible design, or why it'll "never be good in high keys", you can say anything of this and I would agree

tough trellis
#

yeah i said it as a joke but maybe its an uninstalling details move

untold yarrow
#

idk man i just love this fake outlaw class

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red zinc
#

which one are you

tight kernel
#

true and real

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vivid vessel
#

guuyyys

image.png
#

its a feature of the spec

#

wdym

edgy walrus
tight kernel
#

damn tank dmg imagine

red zinc
#

Think of it this way zac

#

With the fix you’ll do enough damage to make tricks be useful

vivid vessel
#

i mean with the fix

#

i would be

untold yarrow
red zinc
#

And the dk finally wont get aggro

vivid vessel
#

at boomie dps

#

btw

#

just saying

#

right under

timber knoll
untold yarrow
#

i played prot before moving to outlaw because i love the apm

inner stump
vivid vessel
#

i would be at like 10 mil here

patent mirage
#

"we heard your feedback so we buffed mages and warlocks "

untold yarrow
#

zac

#

why u do tank dam

tough trellis
untold yarrow
#

bro we talkeda bout this

red zinc
#

Dont you do like 11 mil with your gear now

#

On 8t functional

vivid vessel
#

ye about that

#

when you proc and shit

#

idk

#

i can go up to 14

crystal musk
red zinc
#

Sure but average

vivid vessel
#

bro idk about average

edgy walrus
#

uncaped

vivid vessel
#

outlaw average

#

between

#

5 mil on 20 targets

#

and 14 mil on 4 targets

#

im not kidding

#

spec is cooked

mighty pivot
#

no capes!

cinder relic
#

the bugs are bad, and should be fixed, you think I don't disagree with this

quiet swallow
tough trellis
quaint wharf
#

spec is not cooked

#

11.1.7 is our time

#

i believe

upbeat tundra
inner stump
tawny adder
#

are silksong baits even a thing anymore now that it is actually coming

frail veldt
#

imma use this at work

red zinc
#

Extreme average of sims on 8t

cinder relic
#

Did thse programmers consider just not having bugs in their product?

#

Seems kinda amatuerish?

hushed horizon
#

Here come fury warriors talking about how they're target capped at 4

cinder relic
#

If I was a developer I just wouldn't have bugs

mighty pivot
#

you leave bugs intentionally in so that you can keep your job

inner stump
#

just ask chat gpt to fix it duh

red zinc
#

Bugs are vital to the existence of an ecosystem

#

This discord would be boring without bugs

frail veldt
#

my code has no bugs

red zinc
#

Ever thought about that

frail veldt
#

just core programming errors

cinder relic
timber knoll
#

I wonder how they initially determined who would be capped and who wouldn’t be

hushed horizon
#

BF has no weaknesses

vivid vessel
#

im in a delve

image.png
#

and my brann

#

is afk

#

at the entrance

#

why

#

he never does this

red zinc
#

At least he hasnt left

bright crane
#

Question

red zinc
#

My brann leaves the delve sometimes

bright crane
#

Why are you in a delve

cinder relic
red zinc
#

He needs scroll now that outlaw will be back in 3-5 business days

frail veldt
cinder relic
#

There are some exceptions that you could argue like crash lightning and caustic spatter but thats a bit pedantic

frail veldt
#

overall though spells have been moving towards softcap

#

as a general

cinder relic
#

STuff like whirlwind, sweeping strikes, nimble flurry, trickshot, and blade flurry. Spells that say "All your ST spells can cleave" are hard capped

vivid vessel
#

generally speaking its all the "spells that cause all your ST abilities to cleave", except all these spells (litteraly more spells that cleave and arent capped than the opposite)

frail veldt
#

yeah but historically

vivid vessel
#

also

frail veldt
#

those spells started out capped

cinder relic
#

What spells are except from this?

vivid vessel
#

its stupid design

#

also

frail veldt
#

I mean

vivid vessel
#

when they capped spells

#

they said

#

it was to reign in

#

the uncapped

#

aoe burst

#

yet the only capped mfs rn

cinder relic
#

I mean u can call it stupid but that was their philosphy for the changes

hidden bay
#

fury isnt all spells but capped

vivid vessel
#

are the no burst spoecs

frail veldt
#

Im not sure its necessarily "stupid" as much as having your only aoe source be capped is extremely problematic in high m+ content

vivid vessel
hidden bay
#

bm cleave might aswell say all spells and isnt capped

frail veldt
#

marks has a mix of capped and uncapped

#

and it functions just fine imo

red zinc
#

That SL patch boomed it

latent oak
red zinc
frail veldt
quaint wharf
#

shareholder diff i think

latent oak
#

i mean its capped by how many targets u wanna dot up

red zinc
#

psychic link is the only fair version of that

latent oak
#

but thats realistically like 12 right

cinder relic
#

Psychic link isn't "Your ST abilities cleave"

frail veldt
red zinc
#

Takes effort to increase the cap

cinder relic
#

Psychic link is "Your ST abilities apply to targets with VT"

frail veldt
#

it doesnt do the full PL percentage past a certain a amount

#

even if you have vt on 100 targets

#

I think its soft capped at like 12 or something

upbeat tundra
#

is it fist of fury that's capped that is goofy

untold yarrow
#

lmao

frail veldt
#

fof is soft capped

#

at 5

upbeat tundra
#

what monk shit is capped but feels weird

frail veldt
#

I think

untold yarrow
#

even brann doesnt wanna do delves

frail veldt
#

monk isnt hard capped it just has a super low soft cap

untold yarrow
#

bro has been in delve prison from day 1

upbeat tundra
#

yea the monk target cap is very odd to me that one feels strange

frail veldt
#

again its not a target cap

#

its a low soft cap

#

theres a big difference

cinder relic
#

FOF is soft capped as is SCK

#

As they are "Aoe spells" similar to something like black powder, dragons roar, blade storm

upbeat tundra
#

its like not even intuitive how the capping shit works

frail veldt
#

it kind of is

cinder relic
#

WHere they decide 5 v 8 is mega random

upbeat tundra
#

but then they just let unholy dk and boomie exist

#

it all doesnt make sense

frail veldt
#

if the cleave effect is a buff applied to you that causes all* your abilities to hit other targets then its usually a hard cap and not soft

upbeat tundra
#

how does unholy and fury exist in the same game at the same time

#

none of it tracks to me

frail veldt
#

if its just an aoe spell or a "hits all targets with X debuff" then its usually soft capped

keen belfry
#

youre tellin me outlaw was sometimes hitting like 3 targets on first pull CB

cinder relic
#

Because in an ideal world, fury would do so much damage on lower target counts that it'd even out

frail veldt
random stirrup
#

The only blizzard info I could find on psylink said it was uncapped

upbeat tundra
cinder relic
#

However in practice this doesn't work, especially in tryhard push keys

random stirrup
#

No mention of even a soft cap

vivid vessel
keen belfry
vivid vessel
#

and low target cleave is irreelvant in m+

frail veldt
inner stump
vivid vessel
#

its stupid

upbeat tundra
#

the only spec i can think of that truly omega excels at their target count is mm right now

cinder relic
#

This is 100 years ago but the example I always remember is that in BFA, Fury was actually one of the only capped specs in the entire game, like everything was fully uncapped back then except like Fury and MM, and Fury was pretty good for a few seasons

tight kernel
#

@vivid vessel link the ace counter ty

latent oak
upbeat tundra
#

isnt warrior dps the only thing that's never been meta like once

gaunt phoenix
#

warrior or fury?

upbeat tundra
#

in keys i mean

#

idk anything about raid historically

gaunt phoenix
ornate heathBOT
cinder relic
#

Fury was aight in BFA but it was a worse OUtlaw which is what most melee dps ended up defaulting to

upbeat tundra
cinder relic
#

BUt fury was played a bit by a few ppl

upbeat tundra
#

but it wasnt meta

gaunt phoenix
#

idk its a fair point ig

frail veldt
agile orchid
#

you mad men actually found the root cause of the bug

gaunt phoenix
#

idr warrior having a goat tier

cinder relic