I even played deathly shadow while it was simming lower
#outlaw
vivid vessel
proven ocean
Legs and cloaks are the same thing
vivid vessel
And I think SBS back when venthyr was a thing
Venthyr vs sbs
And I was playing sbs
I don't think it simmed higher
I don't remember
proven ocean
Legs and cloaks are the same thing
If I gain 3 ilvls on legs or cloaks it doesn’t matter while legs give like x2 the agility or someshit
vivid vessel
?
I trust sims for stuffs like these ye
If the sim says the cloak is a bigger upgrade
It's a bigger upgrade
proven ocean
You legit did that perma in DF because it was only 0.1% when it clearly gave the same stats and way more agility
vivid vessel
That's stupid to not listen to sims for basic gear stuffs like those
proven ocean
It's a bigger upgrade
It literally was a 0.1% loss
And sometimes 0.2%
And you were like
0.2% is variance
200 agi lost
“It’s fine”
novel socket
does circlet calculate the gem stats based on what stats we have on login ?
vivid vessel
?
Bro this guy is so stupid
If it's within variance it's within variance
Why you think the sim lying yio you
It's just gear cuh
Omegalul
novel socket
vivid vessel
You overthink the most useless shit ever
vivid vessel
does circlet calculate the gem stats based on what stats we have on login ?
The stats you have on you when you equip it
proven ocean
You overthink the most useless shit ever
?!
vivid vessel
You can remove it to change
proven ocean
Zac
novel socket
yeah i know that
proven ocean
When will u work on sin rogue
novel socket
but when i came on today my stats were changed
that's why i'm asking if it calculates stuff on login too
gaunt phoenix
it does recalculate on login
proven ocean
I think I’ll learn the apl soon
gaunt phoenix
as if you requipped it
novel socket
noooooo
proven ocean
Got a bunch of free time might start working on sin rogue
Kinda want to see what’s going on
novel socket
this means i have to take stuff on and off everytime to make it change the highest secondary
vivid vessel
I don't play sin
And it's probably the spec I like the least
In the game
Why would I work on sin
You do it
vivid vessel
Whispyr will love receiving apl increase from you
proven ocean
It’s that hard
vivid vessel
I can guarantee that
proven ocean
Whispyr will love receiving apl increase from you
Well I got unblocked with this build so that’s a good step I guess
late swallow
Sin chat absolutely malding seething shidding and farding at the fact that Ross is cooking sin
woeful otter
how to use wa monitor the snapshot BF
gaunt phoenix
how to use wa monitor the snapshot BF
this one? https://wago.io/YuicePURM
seems like it reminds you to press bf during gm if you haven't already done it once
vital venture
just making sure its not outdated, HO waits for CTO buffs to expire before rolling again?
if i get lucky with like 4-5 buffs
gaunt phoenix
just making sure its not outdated, HO waits for CTO buffs to expire before rolli...
if you have 4 buffs
you can wait until it becomes 3
though it's not really an expected dps difference to just roll over 4 buffs
vital venture
alright
vital venture
hollow portal
Question, yesterday it was stated that Blade Flurry continues to try to deal damage even if the adds are dead, right? Does that mean Precise Cuts does the same thing? If the adds die, the damage doesn't increase because there are still +8 mobs even if they're dead? Or is it only with BF?
late swallow
we're so back
gaunt phoenix
gm
gaunt phoenix
Question, yesterday it was stated that Blade Flurry continues to try to deal dam...
my understanding is that IF blade flurry decides to try to hit dead targets then that target also influences the precise cuts damage for the other hits
cause it still counts as a target
but need to test a bit more
hollow portal
I understand, thanks
vital venture
is the rotation/prio different on this build than others? looking to get into assa once i get myth daggers
cinder relic
Soon
bright crane
™
cinder relic
torpid fiber
unlike our normal bugs, "hard capped aoe isn't hitting as many targets as it should be because it's hitting corpses instead" is a pretty easy thing to convey mattering to others
timber knoll
is there gonna be a wowhead post for our bugs? otherwise prolly wont get fixed sadly
gaunt phoenix
Yes
leaden folio
"zac find why he is behind tank on bigpull"
late swallow
∈)☼(∋
bright crane
Is wowhead in contact with the shareholders??
late swallow
goatse RH emoji when?
leaden folio
yo wowhead post everyweek shit post about warcraftlog
they can publish some real news
cinder relic
?
torpid fiber
I would bet those wcl ranking posts get shit tons of clicks
leaden folio
I hate when wowhead post wcl news
torpid fiber
I'll happily take occasional wcl slop posts to have a resource as valuable as wowhead available
late swallow
the wcl posts truly are slop
cinder relic
Ppl love slop
torpid fiber
The comments on wcl posts are really funny sometimes as well
leaden folio
there is so much better news
that actually wowhead track and publish to late
like "there is a worldboss that drop mount in bfa this week"
cinder relic
What are you complaining about exactly?
gaunt phoenix
xdd that's fine
you know there are people that engage with that stuff
the WCL thing is pretty much the only thing i dont like them publishing for clicks
leaden folio
What are you complaining about exactly?
solo said wowhead possibly reject the article
late swallow
people also just love complaining
gaunt phoenix
eh that's not what i mean
leaden folio
and i started to complain about how many article on wowhead are "bad"
gaunt phoenix
i dont have to connection to wowhead to know what they are doing is all
late swallow
i like the tyler the creator cyberbullying approach to these things
cinder relic
solo said wowhead possibly reject the article
I don't think he said that, and if he did he's dumb
torpid fiber
Imo we should cyberbully wow forum users into arguing for 5 years in wowhead comments instead
late swallow
cinder haven
I mean if this works out I guess we know what we have to do in the future to get stuff fixed
late swallow
if you don't like it just don't read it
leaden folio
we stop. dont want to say that to solo
cinder haven
interesting experiment
leaden folio
solo actually cool af
torpid fiber
I mean if this works out I guess we know what we have to do in the future to get...
I think it's the kind of thing you only really get to do once an expac at most
leaden folio
but yeah guy. actually wowhead is great. but less wcl news will be perfect..because that create so much bad mood/discussion. its toxic af
cinder haven
we have gotten positive bugs hotfixed two tiers in a row though
torpid fiber
Yeah
gaunt phoenix
i am dumb
cinder haven
not really I think
gaunt phoenix
it is known
leaden folio
making a news about filter on wcl will be 1000 more profitable than just the shitpost about what class perform this week
late swallow
solo can you mute me for a few hours I need to work and keep getting distracted
torpid fiber
Every smart person worth my respect constantly thinks they're dumb that's just how it goes
leaden folio
think solo is humble.. and know how to be way more smart. he is not wrong
gaunt phoenix
solo can you mute me for a few hours I need to work and keep getting distracted
are you sure
proven ocean
solo can you mute me for a few hours I need to work and keep getting distracted
@gaunt phoenix yea mute him he has my old brain i know how it feels
warm remnant
yo
gaunt phoenix
!mute @late swallow 4h on request
warm remnant
lowkey maybe a stupid question, if you buy the heroic mug'zee weapon are you able to ugprade it to myth when u kill it there?
red zinc
yeah it currently doesnt have an upgrade system implemented
but I think they will fix that
seems like an easy qol fix
pearl girder
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit 
Luxthos Edit
Zac's Group 
Devlin
Utilities:
Combo Point Standalone
Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
Ace refund sound trigger
RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Fun:
Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
KS Ticking damage taken
fallen knot
any bloodbeast enjoyer here?
wintry solar
Doesn't proc enough on blood
reef forge
@proven ocean is your Assa build a mix between m+ and raid st?
rotund zodiac
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
- Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
- Zac's Group Devlin
Utilities: - Combo Point Standalone
- Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
- Ace refund sound trigger
- RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
- Unseen Blade tracker
Fun: - Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
- KS Ticking damage taken
rotund zodiac
yo where the new BF wa at
gaunt phoenix
this one? https://wago.io/YuicePURM
this one probably
rotund zodiac
this one probably
ty solo!
gaunt phoenix
maybe
daring oxide
outlaw bug fixes when?
sleek pelican
S4
honest sparrow
But which expension?
rotund zodiac
i didnt test it but i trust lievet
I tried it in a key, good stuff
my overall improved a bit thanks to the WA
hollow cypress
But which expension?
The last titan
harsh mural
gaunt phoenix
my overall improved a bit thanks to the WA
gaunt phoenix
did they
desert tendon
isnt the bf / gm thing in game since like df but we werent looking at it?
gaunt phoenix
ye and double coup existed since xpac launch
just didnt know
or didnt put attention to it rather
and then double coup "had attention" for like 7 weeks before it was fixed
desert tendon
my point still stands, since coup is newer than bf / gm bug, it has been fixed quicker !
vivid vessel
did they
The moment we started using it ye
I think the moment it went actually public it was gone in one week
cinder relic
gaunt phoenix
lmao
latent oak
they nerfed it hours before awc happened right think it might be related to that
desert tendon
vivid vessel
Outlaw tc maniac
desert tendon
that s the frenchest white flag i ve ever seen
latent oak
multispec freakazoid
vivid vessel
Multispec freakazoid
frank finch
ret GOD
frank finch
execute god
vivid vessel
Big cocka
desert tendon
multispec god what the heck
latent oak
guy has acro irl with those fingers
timber knoll
Wait what we got our buggies fixed?
desert tendon
cinder haven
🐓
gaunt phoenix
no
vivid vessel
you cant type cocks
?
gaunt phoenix
someone proposed it at the monday stand up
timber knoll
Why fix bugs for a 3 player spec tbh makes sense
cinder haven
No one on the internet is allowed to say cocks on mondays
cinder haven
But how can your stand up meeting decide that
vivid vessel
Bro it's Monday
cinder haven
It’s not fair
vivid vessel
No way I'm not gonna say cock on a Monday
desert tendon
u said cocks solo, dont say it what the hell
cinder haven
Bro it's Monday
Alright I’ll save it for tomorrow
wintry solar
Stop saying cocks on a monday
desert tendon
yea that s not very mondeyi of you you guys, stap it nao
cinder haven
bad words
wintry solar
My mom is in this server
cinder haven
For outlaw advice or to make sure you behave?
wintry solar
The second one
cinder haven
That’s not creepy at all
wintry solar
She likes to be included 
rotund zodiac
severe grove
My fellow KS enjoyers, I cant get any group invites to 10 keystones 💔
I will have to start my own key 💔
gaunt phoenix
?!>!@
gaunt phoenix
well ye
frank finch
have ya looked into pc acting sus sometimes?
vivid vessel
In what way
Pc probably don't really work at end of packs
Cause it's not active when hitting dead targets
frank finch
thats prolly it
gaunt phoenix
i dont know if there are 2 normal targets and 3 dead targets will it count the dead for pc
gaunt phoenix
sweeping strikes doesnt have the dead targets flag
must be nice !
arms looks fun
olive flax
full outlaw rework 11.2 incoming? No way they can just let all these bugs pile up without a plan right?
jolly geyser
they will
gaunt phoenix
i mean i think ks changes are coming
jolly geyser
im being negative so I get suprised
gaunt phoenix
i dont think bugs are related
vague cape
gonna miss ks, actually s tier trolling tool
gaunt phoenix
old ks will be a pvp talent
vague cape
get targeted by sonic boom, press ks watch the comedy unfold
cinder relic
arms looks fun
It's fun in execute
frail veldt
i dont know if there are 2 normal targets and 3 dead targets will it count the d...
Yeah I was wondering what the implications for PC are
hollow temple
wintry solar
Lose KS and restless blades is still nerfed
gaunt phoenix
wdym
wintry solar
I have GOT to see this channels reaction to a restless blades nerf
gaunt phoenix
L pvp players
fallen knot
is there a wa that tracks pacemaker by chance?
fallen knot
eh
gaunt phoenix
you can clone one of your own weakaura and change the buff to pacemaker
fallen knot
i'd like to track the internal cooldown aswell
gaunt phoenix
true
peak crow
nice catch
gaunt phoenix
frank finch
gaunt phoenix
sorry you have to scroll through our buffoonery
surreal flower
frank finch
pin
wintry solar
Bf hit dead targets
wintry solar
Big bug
hidden bay
this happened with patch or?
gaunt phoenix
we found two bugs that probably existed for years
"big" idk
I pinned everything we know
hidden bay
if its been for years it whatever
frank finch
nah its not w/e
we have all noticed someimtes doing shit dmg in really big pulls
and we finally figuered it out
frail veldt
if its been for years it whatever
I think this was a TWW new thing
hidden bay
i meant more like if the bug existed before patch
frail veldt
that was when we all first noticed this issue
hidden bay
we didnt get a hidden nerf
frail veldt
yeah esp for HO build
going a whole dungeon without GM
Ive gained a good amount of dps after reapplying when gm procs
hidden bay
no gains for kir sadge
frail veldt
there is gains for kir
cuz kir was turning on and off gm essentially
at random
if they fix it then kir will likely also gain some dps
silent flint
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
- Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
- Zac's Group Devlin
Utilities: - Combo Point Standalone
- Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
- Ace refund sound trigger
- RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
- Unseen Blade tracker
Fun: - Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
- KS Ticking damage taken
proven ocean
Buff envenom plz low dmg
frank finch
hidden bay
there is gains for kir
how do we play around the bug?
gaunt phoenix
you dont just press deft
hidden bay
so kir doesnt gain anything
frail veldt
how do we play around the bug?
the bug doesnt have gains
proven ocean
I wouldn’t understand why KiR is better now tho?
hidden bay
at least until bug is fixed
frail veldt
Im saying fixing it would have gains
proven ocean
HO has to be way better now
frail veldt
you can run non deft kir
proven ocean
No
frail veldt
tbh if you play around the snapshot it probably beats 1fth
proven ocean
That shit I’d trash
bright crane
HO players rn
proven ocean
Is^
frail veldt
seems fine in sims actually
I think after some apl changes deft wasnt even a gain anymore
frail veldt
idk tobfon and zac are the ones who cooked it up
frail veldt
yeah deft makes up for losses in uptime for sure
proven ocean
I’m positive deft is very important for KiR’s consistency but I haven’t played it recently
frail veldt
im just saying non deft is viable
gaunt phoenix
but the damage is there in theory
sullen wyvern
isn't realz the rogue dev or something like that
proven ocean
Now that it snapshots it’s legit broken
frail veldt
isn't realz the rogue dev or something like that
we dont know his exact position but he has been involved in rogue development in the past
frail veldt
its been a little messy yeah but this isnt related to the patch
we suspect this has been here since start of TWW
sullen wyvern
Not sure what you guys were talking about, just popped in and saw his name
what is going on?
frank finch
pins
sullen wyvern
oh ok, I read that already
gaunt phoenix
just caught some blade flurry bugs yesterday
sullen wyvern
GM snapshot
gaunt phoenix
Wowhead article coming, probably fixed soon
sullen wyvern
man do we have to play around that as KiR now?
gaunt phoenix
but im not going to bother putting the bug in simc to find out
daring oxide
gaunt phoenix
nah this is just a hotfix
sullen wyvern
let me cope
daring oxide
wait
craggy quiver
.7
daring oxide
its been confirmed already
craggy quiver
Believe
gaunt phoenix
4 bugfixes by COB monday !
proven ocean
it is easy to fix
daring oxide
'Blade flurry will no longer target corpses'
daring oxide
what does COB mean
frail veldt
'Blade flurry will no longer target corpses'
lolol
proven ocean
i expect a fix this week ngl
frail veldt
gona be quite the headline
daring oxide
well
it was literally confirmed as 'nice catch' by the fixer himself
ngl we dancing
vivid vessel
i dont think so xd
I think so
You would not press bf when gm dropped idk
10% bf damage surely more worth than deft cps
gaunt phoenix
you're probably right actually
gaunt phoenix
since deft is already questionable in theory
daring oxide
we just dont use deft if GM has dropped off and we've snapshotted GM on the current BF?
gaunt phoenix
??
bright crane
ye we dont know
We know the shareholders are involved right??
vivid vessel
this is why we play KIR 1FTH
It's even worse with kir 1 fth what do you mean
gaunt phoenix
we just dont use deft if GM has dropped off and we've snapshotted GM on the curr...
i mean sure
daring oxide
well if GM is up, you press deft yeah
gaunt phoenix
not simming it
vivid vessel
ofc u hope they fix this bug
Ye ? Makes our most fun talent irrelevant and mega cringe to play around wdym
daring oxide
but if GM is down (was up earlier and its snapshotted on your previous BF) then you dont press
vivid vessel
Hell it might even be a DPS gain for kir as well zeross
daring oxide
makes it annoying to play around for sure
vivid vessel
Why do I care tho
proven ocean
idk double coup felt just as cringe as GM bug ngl
vivid vessel
It's cringe and delete deft
frank finch
vivid vessel
No lol double coup was just more cdr it was free
Idk what you mean
Just press coup twice
Get cdr
vivid vessel
?
vivid vessel
You lose ADR more now
proven ocean
when i can press 2
daring oxide
im gonna look at all of outlaw's spell ability spell data
daring oxide
there might be more weird stuff
proven ocean
makes gameplay complete disaster
daring oxide
like what solo spotted earlier
proven ocean
ar didnt have 100% uptime
vivid vessel
You are yapping about the most irrelevant thing ever tho I'm so confused
vivid vessel
Acting like it's the worse thing ever cause you lose adr
Fazed is always active and that hasn't changed so
What headache
vivid vessel
You are inventing non issues idk what to tell you
"I don't like double coup cause It felt bad when no ADR"
Bro you had so much ADR uptime with double coup
You know what I don't like
proven ocean
i played trickster for a long time this season
vivid vessel
Having lower ADR uptime
proven ocean
idk why ur being cringe by the way u type 24/7
gaunt phoenix
im gonna look at all of outlaw's spell ability spell data
i don't think that will be lucrative
cool if it worked out this time but a few things to note
- those flags in spell data dont always do what it sounds like they do
- the data is client-side, in theory anything server-side can alter suggested behavior by the client, ultimately we don't really know what goes on
vivid vessel
Ye 1 key
vivid vessel
????
proven ocean
thats you
upbeat tundra
chat zac and zeros are doing the thing again
daring oxide
i don't think that will be lucrative
cool if it worked out this time but a few...
hmm true, but very good spot if you got realz to confirm it was a 'nice catch' always good to help developers debug issues
proven ocean
show me a key
where u have 100% fazed uptime
and ar
even with double coup
i'll wait
vivid vessel
Idk why you are talking about fazed bro
You never not had fazed
When you needed to coup
Wtf are you even talking about
proven ocean
u probably didnt even hit 95% fazed uptime
vivid vessel
Bro but
What are you complaining about
Complain about real things
This is embarrassing
vivid vessel
Fazed has way higher uptime on outlaw than sub bro
proven ocean
both situations legit dont happen 24/7
vivid vessel
You don't realize I think
vivid vessel
I might have not have ADR for coup once a key top
proven ocean
because apparently ur the only player who has 100% ar uptime and 100% fazed up
uptime
vivid vessel
Legit
proven ocean
vivid vessel
?
gaunt phoenix
i dont get the issue
proven ocean
with double coup, you run into a situation where u cant get 2 coups off often
vivid vessel
he is mad he had to press coup outside of adr once in his life so he couldnt double cou
proven ocean
either you dont have AR up or you dont have fazed
gaunt phoenix
i don't think it was often
and i mean you can double coup without fazed
sometimes it happened with dying targets, oh well
proven ocean
legit anytime it happened is worse than losing 20 eye of kezan stacks
i'd rather have the key depleted instead
gaunt phoenix
that sounds dramatic
proven ocean
idk how its dramatic when the design is dogshit lol
gaunt phoenix
i dont get how single coup makes you want to uninstall the game but ok
proven ocean
i dont get how people losing AR made them want to uninstall the game
vivid vessel
random double coup log
upbeat tundra
i dont get how people losing AR made them want to uninstall the game
makes ur char feel bad
frail veldt
zeross you need to play some outlaw
frail veldt
I think youre falling out of touch
frail veldt
did you ever play it?
proven ocean
cant someone have an opinion
vivid vessel
thats not an opinion you are just saying wrong things
proven ocean
or what
vivid vessel
it didnt happen often
vivid vessel
it never happened
proven ocean
when it happens
it feels like shit
thats an opinion
brotherman
lol
again ur just being weird 24/7 nothing new
upbeat tundra
and some people like pineapple pizza and get flamed accordingly
vivid vessel
nah man
dont pass lying
as an opinion
you have no idea cause you didnt play outlaw
proven ocean
i said i have an opinion that it feels like shit
upbeat tundra
chat we are so close to ad homs
proven ocean
to not be able to get double coup off
and ur saying
NAH THATS NOT UR OPINION
how is it not
?
vivid vessel
it happened once every 2 keys bro
proven ocean
lol
gaunt phoenix
you said it happens often, it doesnt, you dont like being wrong
upbeat tundra
solo you muted me for 6 hours the other day for less
upbeat tundra
i think i said the A word
gaunt phoenix
solo you muted me for 6 hours the other day for less
this is just banter who cares
proven ocean
you said it happens often, it doesnt, you dont like being wrong
idk man
frail veldt
i think i said the A word
hows that less
frail veldt
skill issue
frail veldt
hands gettin slow playing assa
proven ocean
because u have nothing to press
frail veldt
just hold til next pack
vivid vessel
!fuu
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
frail veldt
why would you want to send it on a dying mob
proven ocean
ye what are u gonna do then
frail veldt
thast a waste of the flawless form buff
upbeat tundra
the best coup was was when you killed a critter outside dornogol with it and swapped fatebound for infinity BTEs
vivid vessel
who tf cares what you do
proven ocean
do nothing
vivid vessel
when it happens
proven ocean
lol
vivid vessel
once
frail veldt
like pressing vanish for 1 gcd
vivid vessel
every 2 keys
frail veldt
this guy
vivid vessel
you are whinning
proven ocean
doing nothing feels good mewo
vivid vessel
for absolutely nothing
proven ocean
i told you
vivid vessel
bro this guy
proven ocean
why it feels like shit
and ur being like
nah
i dont agree with you
because it doesnt feel like shit to me
frail veldt
you act like doing nothing isnt part of blizzard mechanics in general
frail veldt
theres so many "do nothing" mechanics
proven ocean
ur just mad because someone cant have an opinion
frail veldt
this is a drop in the ocean
proven ocean
about coup
frail veldt
our opinion is just that your opinion is bad
upbeat tundra
can we get back to talking about the target cap or killing spree or somethin
proven ocean
trickster is the worst design that's ever happened in the history of games
patent mirage
tbh all rogue hero talents are kinda lame
vivid vessel
you cant say
patent mirage
mostly fb
proven ocean
our opinion is just that your opinion is bad
and why are u mad for calling you weird
vivid vessel
every 2 keys
proven ocean
because thats weird behavior
frail veldt
and why are u mad for calling you weird
when did you call me weird?
vivid vessel
nah mb bro fazed is up 95% of the times
also
you always have fazed before coup
but nah
gaunt phoenix
i dont think your opinion can be challenged who cares
just disagree how often it happens
proven ocean
nah mb bro fazed is up 95% of the times
u didnt have it for that high
proven ocean
its not like the sim had fazed up in downtime
vivid vessel
arent there
proven ocean
what are u smoking
patent mirage
is this another yapping session
proven ocean
ur saying that as if the sim has fazed up when hes out of combat
vivid vessel
you apply it everytime you press ks
proven ocean
lol
vivid vessel
ye thats a st sim
upbeat tundra
is this another yapping session
yes just watch the entertainment
frail veldt
Yeah you can hate this situation as much as you want but it doesnt mean it happened often
patent mirage
ah ok then
vivid vessel
checking a slice sim makes no sense cause there is too many targets so i cant check debuffs
quaint wharf
i dont think your opinion can be challenged who cares
just disagree how often ...
yo solo, im thinking about dropping pc for gs because of bug, thoughts?
gaunt phoenix
i never liked pc anyway
frail veldt
I dont like GS cuz its energy cost
proven ocean
Yeah you can hate this situation as much as you want but it doesnt mean it happe...
ok
quaint wharf
yeah same mewo
proven ocean
double coup sucks
frail veldt
I really hate when gs comes up in subterfuge and im already low on energy and it just makes it worse
patent mirage
is blizzard had humour pc would be a softcap
quaint wharf
yup yup yup
upbeat tundra
i never liked pc anyway
like as an idea or because of the way its situated on the tree
vivid vessel
i dont like this thing
patent mirage
gs is one of the buttons that is like ancient in a way
vivid vessel
and have no arguments
gaunt phoenix
like as an idea or because of the way its situated on the tree
both it should be baseline or idk
vivid vessel
doubvle coup legit just made outlaw better, you had more uptimes on everything as it should
now you are forced to have 10% adr downtime
doing tank damage
cinder relic
More uptime more good
vivid vessel
1 apm
cinder relic
Shrimple
upbeat tundra
both it should be baseline or idk
i agree baseline, pc is the closest we have for a way to excel at literally anything
frail veldt
Yeah I would happily take any negatives that double coup had for the benefit of more adr uptime lol
vivid vessel
More uptime more good
not talking to people that dont understand how outlaw is unplayable outside of adr
this is too many words
gaunt phoenix
sry
patent mirage
wat
gaunt phoenix
dont fill the entire chat
sour fossil
deleted a masterpiece
patent mirage
what was that
sour fossil
unreal
patent mirage
like a flashback
fathom bramble
I was reading that
upbeat tundra
that was for sure ai generated
fathom bramble
Oh probably
frail veldt
haha
patent mirage
remember during sl when received all the changes
nowdays rogue changes are as dry as the sahara desert
gaunt phoenix
idk dragonflight was good for outlaw
sour fossil
Honestly deleting it that quick is almost poetic to what the story was about
upbeat tundra
idk dragonflight was good for outlaw
i would pay $60 for dragonflight classic
tight kernel
So that was interesting to read lol
patent mirage
df s1 was fine
proven ocean
sin is just as fun as s3 DF outlaw
legit so much fun
crazy good
2m pure st and infinite aoe
infinite funnel
patent mirage
sin got bf but better
tight kernel
isnt sin like zz tho?
gaunt phoenix
zero the sin chef now
gaunt phoenix
isnt sin like zz tho?
not in keys
vivid vessel
wait till you get to a boss
proven ocean
sin got bf but better
ye true
frail veldt
zeross is like a door to door assa salesman
vivid vessel
idk about that
gaunt phoenix
i like that you can argue and then carry on like whatever
vivid vessel
sin in general being better in aoe sure
tight kernel
Lets fix spatter hitting through los and lets see
patent mirage
a softcap would do
patent mirage
you know what
vivid vessel
uh
proven ocean
you didnt play against me in this build tho zac
vivid vessel
ct
upbeat tundra
not doing tank damage in these large pulls especially first pulls is all we ask for i think
patent mirage
make gsw another version of spatter
fathom bramble
even if they uncap outlaw
Uncap or softcap?
patent mirage
there
proven ocean
this build does alot of spatter dmg
proven ocean
Uncap or softcap?
soft soft
frail veldt
Uncap or softcap?
softcap
vivid vessel
hm
proven ocean
uncap would be busted
fathom bramble
Okay just checking
proven ocean
nah nothing is uncapped now anyway
upbeat tundra
uncap would be busted
you mean like blood beasts or starfall?
proven ocean
only few
fathom bramble
Because uncap would be insane
vivid vessel
soft cap maybe
proven ocean
ye uncap
fathom bramble
Isn’t dragon mostly uncapped
proven ocean
will be busted
frail veldt
Isn’t dragon mostly uncapped
dont think so
patent mirage
blizzard will never fully uncap outlaw
proven ocean
its not that strong tho
patent mirage
we need a wolverine meme with rc dust
leaden folio
@proven ocean éclaboussures caustiques
vivid vessel
hm
proven ocean
your tank is french noob <@1172550924519080006>
what key is this
vivid vessel
i need 4 weeklies
upbeat tundra
uncap bf + pc baseline + pc does more damage per target below 8 and less damage per target above 8
proven ocean
well
this build is crazy in cinderbrew with the pulls we do
i can explain later
why
but
im raiding now
tight kernel
Can we just make a wowhead post to get BF soft cap? ty wowhead editors
vivid vessel
I need 4 weeklies but im just
hidden bay
ks is the problem
sour fossil
I post the story in my other discord and get told to come here man I really dont belong anywhere fml
vivid vessel
that i know
i know nothing works
and i need to do cringe shit for gm
..
idk man
i dont wanna enter a key
proven ocean
have a good raid
muzgee
proven ocean
ty ac
gaunt phoenix
I post the story in my other discord and get told to come here man I really dont...
lmao
vivid vessel
np
vivid vessel
?
tardy flint
hey all, I'm new-ish to outlaw (last played when it was still combat XD) and I'm getting pancaked by poorly timed killing sprees in some keys like floodgate on bomb duo and kelp boss, is there a good timing to use KS there or am I better off running assasin in that key?
proven ocean
fuck you zac
vivid vessel
owned
proven ocean
frail veldt
get got
proven ocean
have to pay you back on that one
vivid vessel
hey all, I'm new-ish to outlaw (last played when it was still combat XD) and I'm...
whats bomb duo
oh the 2 guys boss
gaunt phoenix
hey all, I'm new-ish to outlaw (last played when it was still combat XD) and I'm...
holding KS is pretty much always bad
but you can send ks at low combo points if you fear death
tulip jewel
hey all, I'm new-ish to outlaw (last played when it was still combat XD) and I'm...
just don't press it when it will kill you
vivid vessel
idk the timings are ok on this, you need to preposition yourself
sour fossil
hey all, I'm new-ish to outlaw (last played when it was still combat XD) and I'm...
Poor soul
frail veldt
you also just have to kinda memorize the time it takes for aoes to go off
sometimes theres a lot of circles on the ground
vivid vessel
this boss should be free to ks mostly on cd
frail veldt
but its actually safe to KS
vivid vessel
for kelp boss you just hold during the aoes
tulip jewel
just yolo it until you have to cloak off a spree dot that's too giga
proven ocean
zac zac
frail veldt
for kelp boss you just hold during the aoes
if youre a coward
sour fossil
hey all, I'm new-ish to outlaw (last played when it was still combat XD) and I'm...
You need simply prove seniority over those who wish to threaten you and your killing spree, simply send it on cooldown.https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:12tBk8mzygZW7YLA?fight=48&type=damage-done
frail veldt
lol
tardy flint
behind the guy that does the frontal lines
this makes sense, I was usually gibbed by landing in bomb circles after coming out of KS, but behind that mob should be safe
tulip jewel
we have friends?
patent mirage
gsw : everytime you hit a target that is affected by your ps debuff with bte , it does some aoe dmg , there i cooked
gaunt phoenix
i low cp ks and give them a little yank
vivid vessel
this makes sense, I was usually gibbed by landing in bomb circles after coming o...
the number 1 skill about ks is pre positioning
frail veldt
i low cp ks and give them a little yank
same
vivid vessel
you need to always move where its safe, and then press ks when aoes are here ytou dont care
frail veldt
1cp ks goes hard
tight kernel
I feel like assa in Mug is almost 99% better because you can cleave adds through walls. Am I wrong here?
vivid vessel
1cp ks are for pussies
frail veldt
I wonder what the correct dps tradeoff is between holding KS for X seconds vs 1cp KS
vivid vessel
I feel like assa in Mug is almost 99% better because you can cleave adds through...
its mostly important for p2./3 exec damage
gaunt phoenix
well ye sin is like the best spec in the game at mug
vivid vessel
cause p1 damage is irrelevant
gaunt phoenix
idk
vivid vessel
ro
sour fossil
Is there a custom simc input for 1 cp ks
gaunt phoenix
i guess the only bad thing about low ks is you lose the energy regen while its happening
proven ocean
WDYM RO
ac
ok
uhh
iforgot what was isingoingo tosay
what i was going to say
forget it zac
frail veldt
holding is for pussies
says the dude with a folder full of KS deaths
tardy flint
for kelp boss you just hold during the aoes
isn't the whole fight aoes? (kidding) I guess there's a short window between them
vivid vessel
isn't the whole fight aoes? (kidding) I guess there's a short window between the...
let me show you
one sec
i might be able to find a vod quickly
frail veldt
kelp the only time you need to hold is during the frontal
gaunt phoenix
Is there a custom simc input for 1 cp ks
there isnt
frail veldt
and during blue waves prob
gaunt phoenix
its also hard to sim sending low cp "sometimes" instead of every cast
if you send KS at whatever cp you have at the time, every time, then it's about a 4% loss
frail veldt
thats honestly not even bad
gaunt phoenix
mostly low cp, could be high cp with AR etc
frail veldt
4% loss to just slam KS whenver it comes off cd
gaunt phoenix
ye