#outlaw

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vivid vessel
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I'm a bit disappointed

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Low Io noob

proven ocean
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we started pushing today

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since 3 weeks

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xd

fathom bramble
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looks like the stagger bug to me with maybe a phantom teleport getting you I'm not sure

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I think the slightly desynced KS start/end positions is just from moving while casting so you just get a little desync between client and server

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the start and end are so close to eachother that it's reasonable anyway

vivid vessel
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Hm

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I mean the start point is safe spot

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The end isn't so

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Idk

fathom bramble
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yeah I think you end up moving backwards slightly compared to where you cast KS from

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but it's just a stagger bug killing you anyway so

vivid vessel
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Ye

fathom bramble
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you could have reacted if it was just a slightly incorrect position instead of dying instantly

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the occasional massive KS failure clip is a nice reminder that skipping this season was a good call

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.7 KS rework

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season 3 will be as good as DF S1 was

glass mortar
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copium changes in 11.1.7 surely

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its time to move on from shaman mage hunter

vivid vessel
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I think the worse thing about this season for outlaw isn't even ks bro

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That's crazy

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I didn't think we would be doing less damage than in s1

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But we managed

glass mortar
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pc buffs

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r so cursed man

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even w/o pc ur st isnt great

vivid vessel
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Idk

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I still don't know if pc is good or not

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I think I need to do a deep dive investigation

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Like pc is legit 5% ahead in slice

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But I go into brew dungeon right

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And in the end

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Am I really using pc

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Bro I dont fucking know

undone coyote
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!wa

ornate heathBOT
vivid vessel
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Shit talent man

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Shit talent

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And like kir is

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So behind of ho in slice

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But there is no way?

dense bolt
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is it really tho

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i dont think so right

vivid vessel
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I legit do more damage than any outlaw playing ho

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Ye it is

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Especially if I go non pc

dense bolt
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no shot cant be more than 1%

vivid vessel
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Ye it's more

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I'm in bed rn

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Will check tomorrow if I think a out it

dense bolt
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!fuu

ornate heathBOT
late swallow
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Solo’s got magdalena bay playing in his sex cave

still matrix
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Does zeross stream his keys?

late swallow
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Yeah on livejasmin

dense bolt
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kir

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ho

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gear is not optimal for ho but it shouldnt be far of

vivid vessel
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Bro use top gear

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How are people

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Not

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Using

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Top gear

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In 2025

dense bolt
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brother u want me to use

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top gear

vivid vessel
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Top gear

dense bolt
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and compare 2 set

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s

vivid vessel
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Use top gear

dense bolt
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with different needs of haste?

vivid vessel
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Use top gear

fiery timber
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quick sim HOLY

vivid vessel
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You litteraly only changed the talents

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Why aren't you doing a top gear

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For that

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Idk

dense bolt
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i didnt

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belt

vivid vessel
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Wtf is that belt

dense bolt
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idk

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for ho

vivid vessel
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Cooked gear no cap

dense bolt
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yea i havent raided this season at all

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just playing with the hand i was dealt

vivid vessel
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That's true

dense bolt
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idk kir 1 fth sims better atleast for me with the gear i have idk

vivid vessel
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Your hands are mega shit

dense bolt
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they are true

vivid vessel
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Why you playing with s1 hands ilvl

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How is that even possible

dense bolt
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well i dont even have aotc yet lel

vivid vessel
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Just finish a dungeon

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And get better hands lmao

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I'm confused

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How do you have 645 hands

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Is it bugged for me

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Or what

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This is so out of place

fiery timber
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na he have 645 hands

dense bolt
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no i have no catalyst and no hands sims good enough to swap

vivid vessel
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Litteraly finish any dungeon

dense bolt
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what u want me to do

vivid vessel
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And get hands

fiery timber
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dude just do some delves and u will get 100% hands

dense bolt
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hack??

vivid vessel
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645

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Hands

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Bro Any hands

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Anyway ye idk

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Depends on gear I guess

dense bolt
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W hands

vivid vessel
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Kir 2 fth being like

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7% behind ho pc

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Idk

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That's fake to me

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I don't get it

frail veldt
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Can you make a more custom dslice?

vivid vessel
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Ye you can

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But idk

frail veldt
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do that then

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lol

vivid vessel
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There is always issues with the stupid dungeon routes

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Cause not a single dungeon works

frail veldt
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yeah I tried it for sp couldnt get it to work

vivid vessel
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I will do it tomorrow

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But idk if that's really better

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What I would want rather is like

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Look at wcl

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And see how often

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I'm under target cap

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Like in brew

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I'm questioning myself

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Every pack I look down at my target counter

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And there is 20 written there

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And I'm like

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Buddy

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Wtf is going on

frail veldt
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Yeaaah

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I mean theres always a period at the end of a pack

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where PC is getting value

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but

dense bolt
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isnt pc a bit contradicting tho at the end of a pack thats low hp and you dont get full value of vanish and you decide to hold it

frail veldt
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I mean packs rarely die exactly perfectly

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the end of the pack can linger SUPER hard if your teammates are holding cds for next pack

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so PC kinda has some real value there

dense bolt
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hmm yea also prob hard to evaluate with real nnumbers

frail veldt
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@vivid vessel you can probably modify your target counter wa to check for in combat and calculate an average maybe over the whole dungeon? Idk if thats too hard to do

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but could be useful

glass mortar
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its just

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awful design

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even if its numerically superior

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u are giving up damage from two damage types that are highly valued as keys go higher

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8+ and 1

frail veldt
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wdym

glass mortar
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like its a small amount sure but theres no way to get pc and not give up some 8t+ damage

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and u always give up st

vivid vessel
glass mortar
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and 8t+ pulls are the ones that will usually wipe u if u dont finish them fast enough

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like the first pull ML zac did

vivid vessel
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I think tomorrow I will do non pc keys

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See what happens

frail veldt
glass mortar
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pc is just making him weaker in the pulls that kill the key xd

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in most dungeons at this point i feel

frail veldt
dense bolt
frail veldt
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But its not liek GS does much there either

vivid vessel
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Another fth cuh

frail veldt
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so

glass mortar
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2 fth

vivid vessel
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But like

frail veldt
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oh yeah in this case its 2nd fth

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not gs

vivid vessel
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2 fth is like

glass mortar
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nah it doesnt do a huge amount but it buffs ur prio and its still worth more then 0

vivid vessel
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So much behind in sims

glass mortar
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ghostly is like 2% or something at 8t+?

vivid vessel
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It's like

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Idk man

glass mortar
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pc is zero

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xd

vivid vessel
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Fuck sims

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Sims are so trash

glass mortar
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and if ur playing 1 fth for it then u probably gain more then ho honestly

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probably closer to 4-5% if i had to guess

vivid vessel
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Kir 2 fth is 7 %

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Behind

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Ho pc

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Like that can't be a real number

dense bolt
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thats alot

vivid vessel
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But I have also never done a single ho key

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And people come and ask me if kir is better

glass mortar
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i think ud hate it

frail veldt
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idk HO blasts pretty hard

glass mortar
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u cant build ur own 5 buffs

vivid vessel
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How tf I know

glass mortar
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u can just get such piss rng

dense bolt
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ho feels so bad tho

glass mortar
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if u think that motherload was cursed

dense bolt
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u just rolling

vivid vessel
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Idk if kir is better

dense bolt
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forever

vivid vessel
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I am better

dense bolt
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till 5 buff

glass mortar
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ud be doing 4m dps if u had that level of rng

frail veldt
glass mortar
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on ho on that pull

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ho feels fine i just hate how out of ur hands ur damage is

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if u dont get 5 buffs in the important places

frail veldt
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its nto that bad tbh

vivid vessel
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Bro mewo

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As kir

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I have 5 buff

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Whenever I want

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I create it

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Anytime I want

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You can't do that as ho

frail veldt
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Lol I know ive played kir

vivid vessel
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Stop saying it's not that bad

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You will just roll for 5 min without a 5 buff

frail veldt
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I feel like HO doesnt lose as much damage from not having 5 buffs as kir does

vivid vessel
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Ye that's cooked idk

frail veldt
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its surprising how often you proc up to 4 buffs from cto

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which isnt a loss to sit on

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and if you play that way it feels rather consistent

dense bolt
frail veldt
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youre getting SCs on cd

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it makes up for it

dense bolt
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yea prob dmg is there i just dont like the rtb on repeat gameplay as much on ho

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its just not fun for me

vivid vessel
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Idk how people enjoy ho

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So ass

dense bolt
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if ho had kir somehow and cto i would prob swap in between the builds for what i feel on that day

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but ho repeat rolling atm is such bad gameplay for me atleast

glass mortar
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idk man if u do a first pull of cinderbrew or the like as HO and u roll 2-3 1 buffs in a row

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ur damage is so doomed

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u look like ur trollin

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even with ok proc rng

dense bolt
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weran didnt u have a cooked raid pull aswell as ho

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or smth

glass mortar
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doing raid skip on herioc

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first boss

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i didnt roll 1 5 buff the whole pull

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rolled 3 1 buffs in a row on the burn

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i was doing

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639 dps

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the variance on farm is so dead

vivid vessel
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I swear these guys from the motherlode blacklisted me

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They were flaming me in chat so hard

glass mortar
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xd

vivid vessel
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And I said nothing

dense bolt
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whatd you do

vivid vessel
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Just left

dense bolt
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outlaw dmg?

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xdd

vivid vessel
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I did outlaw damage

glass mortar
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negative damage on a misspull where they needed to blast

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and they ended up just wiping to lack of dps

vivid vessel
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I did 6 mil dps

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Tank was above me

dense bolt
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"boosted freaking rouge"

vivid vessel
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Ye

dense bolt
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"im outta here"

glass mortar
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he made a couple mistakes but like

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its crazy how little damage u can do

vivid vessel
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They were french as well

glass mortar
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with bad rng and a few mistakes

vivid vessel
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That's the worse part

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They were flaming in french

dense bolt
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inbefore they join this discord OMEGAKEKW

glass mortar
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LMAO

dense bolt
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and we have the mage incident all over again

vivid vessel
glass mortar
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yup

vivid vessel
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Like I don't make these mistakes usually

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But that's just

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Idk

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Outlaw mistakes s

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Happens

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Legit tank damage

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Unlucky

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I did a wrong GCD

glass mortar
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i make mistakes during my monks cds and i do 8m dps instead of 10m

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xd

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on outlaw

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logout

dense bolt
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but u did so good tho you pressed BF and did 2 bil dmg

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a classic

vivid vessel
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I mean did you see the other thing I tagged you on earlier weran

glass mortar
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ye

vivid vessel
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Bee dungeon first pack

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Where I roll 6 buff om pull

dense bolt
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i watched your stream during that

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i think

vivid vessel
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I have 90% Crit on bte

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And I'm doing 6 mil dps

tacit orchid
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any1 know how i can disable this? it's not an addon or weakaura

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glass mortar
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under combat settings

vivid vessel
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Idk I legit thought I was bugged

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Like there is no way you roll 6 buff

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And just Crit every bte

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And you do 6 mil dps ???

dense bolt
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thats when u check talents and wonder if u have st spec

vivid vessel
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I did

dense bolt
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turns out u dont

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xd

late swallow
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Outlaw is so down bad that under optimal conditions the best player thinks he’s bugged

vivid vessel
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I checked if bf was up

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Idk maan

late swallow
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It’s so over

glass mortar
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i genuinly dont know how u did so little damage

dense bolt
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and then the miserable feeling happens

glass mortar
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it was like u were hitting half a pack

vivid vessel
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Idk I need to check that log

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Surely something weird

glass mortar
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under combat settings

vivid vessel
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Idk like there is no way the spec does that little damage

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I don't even understand why it did no damage

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I had everything

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All buffs

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Bte critting

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Where did damage go

tacit orchid
glass mortar
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wish u had a log of that pull

dense bolt
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did it take forever to set up or?

glass mortar
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yes

vivid vessel
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I do have a log wdym

glass mortar
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thats certainly part of it

vivid vessel
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I log everything

glass mortar
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the grouping was like 10s of zero dps

vivid vessel
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No not mewdery lol

glass mortar
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and zac didnt open early

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cause he was shrouding

vivid vessel
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No

glass mortar
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the rest of the bozos

vivid vessel
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I'm talking about mewdery now

glass mortar
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ye

vivid vessel
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Bee dungeon

glass mortar
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can u link the log

vivid vessel
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Wdym long setup

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No

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I'm bed

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Check my logs idk

late swallow
glass mortar
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i mean it was a bricked key is it gunna be there

vivid vessel
glass mortar
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idk if those show up on wcl

vivid vessel
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This is the one I'm talking about btw weran

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I feel we are misunderstanding each other

vivid vessel
dense bolt
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6 buff with good procs

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should be 10-11 mil

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imo

glass mortar
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....

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what the fuck

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how r u doing so little damage

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ur even getting good procs

vivid vessel
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I mean nah

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Something is wrong

dense bolt
vivid vessel
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I even get like

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6 ace in a row

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Something not right

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In this pull

dense bolt
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60 mil apart

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xdd

vivid vessel
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I'm not crazy right

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Like I get full ace

glass mortar
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what key did u time today

vivid vessel
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Idk

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None

runic bough
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Outlaw nerfed again in the last hotfix

vivid vessel
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16 bree

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Bee

runic bough
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Attention outlaw nerfed again

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Even tho we were already fighting tank damage

glass mortar
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was that damage in the brewery u timed

vivid vessel
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Idk check the time

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It's a 16

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I probably timed that one ye

proven ocean
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@vivid vessel noob

vivid vessel
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Ye

dense bolt
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tbf it woulda been 4 mil instead of that 8 if u played ho and low rolled 1 buff

glass mortar
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i mean again u were afk for 10s of combat time at the start

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according to the log anyway

fathom bramble
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blizzard really needs to go back through every class and spec reanalyzing target caps

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some specs just arbitrarily have insane target scaling AND burst

vivid vessel
fathom bramble
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basically nothing lines up with the originally stated reason for target caps

vivid vessel
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I'm doing tank DPS while rolling everything

fathom bramble
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and it makes it look like they got lost somewhere along the way

glass mortar
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no i know

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u shuldnt be this low

vivid vessel
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And I have peaked 14 mil

glass mortar
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downtime to gather just omega fucks outlaw so hard

vivid vessel
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On some packs

glass mortar
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ur missing out on like

vivid vessel
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How is that so low

glass mortar
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1m pull

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10s of downtime

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13% of ur total dps could be in that period

vivid vessel
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You are cooked

glass mortar
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cause ur so linear

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u should still do more tho

vivid vessel
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I'm doing more important things prepull no cap

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Doesn't even matter

glass mortar
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im not saying ur bad sometimes u cant avoid this waiting

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im just saying it fucks outlaw

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so much harder the nanyone else

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all the other bozos are just missing out on filler dps

vivid vessel
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You are going to say cause I waited 5 sec I lost to tank

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You listening to yourself weran

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I'm talking about bee dungeon

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It's not even 10 s

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You are smoking hard

glass mortar
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maybe it logged weird idk

proven ocean
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zac

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i agree

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idk what weran is saying

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but

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i agree

glass mortar
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cant find anythign wrong anyway bf is bfing

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doing correct damage

vivid vessel
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I start attacking 5 sec into the key weran

glass mortar
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outlaw just suks

vivid vessel
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Xd

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I'm like

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2 sec after tank

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Watch the video

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U see I'm not waiting 10 swc

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You can check the timer

dense bolt
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weran can u somehow check if improved bte is doing its thing

vivid vessel
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Nah but

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Something is wrong in that pack

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I will check the log myself tomorrow

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Doesn't add up

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I have watched that clip 10 times

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There Is no way I'm doing that damage

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It's bugged

fathom bramble
dense bolt
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do u have anything filtered in details that u forgot

fathom bramble
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average BTE crit is ~4x average BTE hit

glass mortar
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wdym by doing its thing

dense bolt
glass mortar
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^

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his bte hits

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r doing

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400k damage

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xd

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its just everytime he presses that button and it doesnt cirt

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u do like

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3m dps for a gcd

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its so little damage

vivid vessel
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It critted 90%

dense bolt
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yea but he mentioned he had 90% crit or smth

vivid vessel
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I checked the log

glass mortar
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yes

vivid vessel
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Easier

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Earlier

glass mortar
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im saying the damage is correct

dense bolt
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so just double checking that improved bte did its thing

glass mortar
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for the crits and bf

vivid vessel
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Like stop gaslighting me

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I go into pavk

glass mortar
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I WASNT SAYING THATS WHY U DIDNT DO DPS

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I WAS SAYING THE LOG DAMAGE WAS RIGHT

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for ur crit to hit ratio

quaint wharf
glass mortar
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i cant find anything wrong

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law just doesnt do dps

vivid vessel
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With 4 SC, 3 ub, 6 buffs, I proc ace 6 times in a row

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And I play like I'm supposed to play

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No mistakes

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And you are telling me

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I'm doing

glass mortar
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xd

vivid vessel
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6 mil dps

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???

dense bolt
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tank dmg

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correction

vivid vessel
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I Crit all my btes

dense bolt
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Gladge

vivid vessel
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And I'm doing 6 mil dps

quaint wharf
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mw dmg

vivid vessel
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With all of that

quaint wharf
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unlucky

vivid vessel
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Hahaha

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You are so funny weran

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Don't gaslight me

proven ocean
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i love it when

vivid vessel
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It's bugged

proven ocean
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zac

vivid vessel
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The spec doesn't work

proven ocean
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saying

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weran cooked

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cuz

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like

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zac is already SO COOKED

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overcooked 200% of the time

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but

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a overcooked person

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calling

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weran cooked

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that means

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weran is the most cooked player

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in the planet

vivid vessel
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Real

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Fuck you weran

dense bolt
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weran the chef

glass mortar
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??? im looking at the log breakdown second by second

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xd

light kernel
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zeross do u pool with "cooked build"

vivid vessel
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For trying to gasligjt me

dense bolt
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i love weran

glass mortar
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the spec just doesnt do damage

vivid vessel
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Bro I need to sleep

glass mortar
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idk what 2 tell u

vivid vessel
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And wake up

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Fast

dense bolt
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bad dream

glass mortar
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log review it urself bich

dense bolt
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most likley

proven ocean
vivid vessel
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I need to figure this out

dense bolt
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this isnt real

proven ocean
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not usually

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just

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for

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kingsbane

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abit

vivid vessel
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Stop talking about sin

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In outlaw channel

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I'm going to go crazy

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How is this happening on cd

dense bolt
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on topic Surebud

vivid vessel
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Fucking assa bro

dense bolt
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is it sin or assa

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whats the vibe on that

vivid vessel
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Why is a yellow name

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Asking sin questions to zeross

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In outlaw channel

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Go away bro

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Idc that you do damage

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I DONT

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I DO TANK DAMAGE OK

dense bolt
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its just a bad dream

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you are sleeping atm

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same as outlaw is sleeping on dmg

vivid vessel
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rem

glass mortar
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french taco for breakfast

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new day new rng

vivid vessel
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You know how my last key of they day went

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I had a 16 dfc

dense bolt
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u prob pressed ks and died

vivid vessel
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Thought I would push it quickly

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We got to third boss

novel socket
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oi zac

vivid vessel
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I forgot to tell tank to move boss away

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I got tilted insta

novel socket
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how often you yell at your tank for not moving stuff around fast enough

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so you die to ks

vivid vessel
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And started pressing ks on CDD

novel socket
vivid vessel
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I died

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And stopped playing

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Gn

dense bolt
vivid vessel
desert tendon
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Zac

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come play minecraft with

vivid vessel
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Idk I was spam pinging that tank in brew

desert tendon
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me

dense bolt
desert tendon
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fk wow

vivid vessel
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Wouldn't move boss

vivid vessel
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Wait rem

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Let me show you

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Cause it was actually funny

desert tendon
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people dont know shit about rogue, so about outlaw, so about ks

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i m surprised u get invited to keys already ngl

dense bolt
# vivid vessel Nice

i played with drohgo a few nights ago told him to move on last boss mechagon and on dfc

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he was losing his mind

vivid vessel
desert tendon
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when tanks have to do mecanics and move a boss

vivid vessel
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@glass mortar

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I had given up before we even pulled the boss btw

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Forgot to explain to tank

desert tendon
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lmao zac

vivid vessel
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So I just idk

desert tendon
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that s so depressing

vivid vessel
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Cba

desert tendon
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ngl

dense bolt
glass mortar
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xd

wintry solar
desert tendon
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what is that

dense bolt
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no SHOT

glass mortar
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go to bed zac

vivid vessel
dense bolt
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not only do you get stunned from ks

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team hates you so much

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thjey send u to shadowrealmn

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on their own

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aswell

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GG

desert tendon
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tbf

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losing outlaw dps

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it s fine

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it s like losing aug dps

quaint wharf
desert tendon
vivid vessel
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It was my key so idk

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I realized I didn't wanna play anymore

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When I got to this boss

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I lost all my fun on the first stun

dense bolt
#

btw

desert tendon
#

yea this is the kind of boss that looks depressing as outlaw ngl

dense bolt
#

its so many streams now

vivid vessel
#

So I just accelerated my end

dense bolt
#

u end early

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cuz tilt from ks

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ngl

vivid vessel
#

Ye

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I know

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Either ks or doing no damage

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Idk it's hard man

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Spec is legit useless

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Might be one of the worse spec in the game in m+ rn

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And that's crazy

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Like I can't think of many specs that are worse to have than ouktaw

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Aug maybe

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I'm still addicted tho

dense bolt
vivid vessel
#

I wanna play rn

dense bolt
vivid vessel
dense bolt
#

hahaha

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oh boy

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is ks the most clip giving spell ever

proven ocean
vivid vessel
#

Probably

proven ocean
#

because its close to being meta

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they just need to buff it more

dense bolt
#

zeross real talk tho

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when are you going back to outlaw

proven ocean
#

when its good again

dense bolt
#

zzzz

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we might be dead by old age at that point

proven ocean
#

i was never an outlaw ONLY player

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i always played the best rogue spec

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played outlaw in bfa, sub in SL, outlaw+sub+sin in DF

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i almost never touched outlaw in SL

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only at start of SL

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and very end of SL

dense bolt
#

i know u played alot of outlaw recently

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when we had rise and fall dungeons

desert tendon
#

whenever outlaw is good

dense bolt
#

and outlaw wasnt good then either

desert tendon
#

i m outlaw as well

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it s the best rogue spec to play by far

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but we re rogue players at first 🙃

dense bolt
#

if i remember correctly people zooned out on rise i think for last boss on high keys

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and went sub

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or was it fall

proven ocean
#

ye fall

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rise was outlaw all the way

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er bug was a huge dps gainngl

#

ngl*

dense bolt
#

ooooh yea

proven ocean
#

in there specifically it was broken op

dense bolt
#

i forgot about that

proven ocean
#

@vivid vessel come play diablo next week

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cuuuuuuuuuuh

fiery timber
#

d3 or d4

proven ocean
#

d4

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i dont play other diabl0os'

fiery timber
#

u are rly cooked ngl

#

d4 so bad

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d3 was peak

proven ocean
#

i like it personally

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never played d3

fiery timber
#

no?

proven ocean
#

ye never

#

my first arpg was d4

fiery timber
#

i missed smth there

proven ocean
#

amd

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and

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i tried poe1 and poe 2

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and i must say

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poe was the most boring game

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ive ever played

#

in my life

fiery timber
#

yes

dense bolt
#

have u tried last epoch?

fiery timber
#

i dont like poe also

proven ocean
#

never tried poech

#

epoch

dense bolt
#

i like that more than poe 1 and 2

proven ocean
#

@vivid vessel wanna play minecraft

cinder relic
#

D4 good Baseg

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Last epoch is a nice in between of D3 and PoE 1

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Plays like D3, but has a decent amount of depth with crafting and end game farming systems

#

I think imma play whirlwind this szn

proven ocean
cinder relic
#

ya

proven ocean
#

ya looks cool with the buffs

dense bolt
#

is it a new season

#

coming out

cinder relic
#

Ya

dense bolt
#

d4 actually has gotten way better for each season

#

but its still a bit behind in my opionion when it comes to gameplay when it comes to poe and LE

#

but its user friendly for sure

cinder relic
#

I think it has the best gameplay, it's just pretty shallow

#

It's the most fun ARPG to hit buttons on imo

dense bolt
#

yea that describes it well

cinder relic
#

PoE 2 has a lot more depth and it sucks ass

proven ocean
cinder relic
#

D4 lets me just log in and blast for a few weeks

#

Don't need it to be more than that

proven ocean
#

true

#

the raid made me rly have fun tho

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i rly rly liked it

#

felt like a wow raid

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u need to go there undergeared tho

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where u get 1 shot from everything

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then it kinda becomes fun to play

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would recommend 2 man

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playing 4 man will make it super easy

#

thats if you are willing to progress the fights tho

cinder relic
#

Yeah it was fun the first time 4sure

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I think D4 does 2 things really well

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1 is like, direct character upgrades

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Like, if I spend 2 hours farming shit, I will be stronger

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100% of the time

proven ocean
#

ye

#

true

#

i hate poe because of its gearing/being stronger system

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it just SUCKS so bad

#

felt like poe2 just didnt welcome me as a new player

cinder relic
#

If blizzard made PoE 2 in it's current state it would be universally panned

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That's all I'll say about PoE 2

#

If u know how to make items in PoE it's actually a good game tho

#

It's just understanding how to make items is impossible without like, 200 hours of play time

#

But yeah I'm excited for another D4 season after playing last epoch

#

I like a lot of last epochs systems but the game feels like D3

fathom bramble
#

poe2 was/is just a huge dissapointment

#

it's trying to be something poe1 isn't

late swallow
#

Holy yap

fathom bramble
#

so a lot of poe players just don't want it

late swallow
#

I’ve never played d4 or poe

proven ocean
fathom bramble
#

maybe they adjust course or find a way to make this version of an arpg fun though idk

#

right now it's worse than D3

#

(imo)

trail star
#

What about last epoch

#

I have read its the perfect balance between d4 and poe2

cinder relic
#

Its like D3 engine, with D4 crafting, and like, better PoE 2 end game

fathom bramble
#

I didn't really like the end game mapping system, but the crafting is cool and the game is a lot of fun mechanically

#

I didn't play this last update yet though

#

I think it could also afford to have loot that targets your character a bit more

#

getting rare drops you basically can't use never feels good

cinder relic
trail star
#

Also I have read there is an AH but no idea about what limitations have

cinder relic
#

I think its like, full throttle can trade everything, it's just when u equip stuff it binds to u iirc

#

I just played the SSF mode

proven ocean
#

did u play split fiction guy

#

feels like a good game might try it with a friend later

cinder relic
#

Thats that it takes two type game right

proven ocean
#

yea

peak dock
#

can zee's thug line adds die ??

fathom bramble
#

I think in general the endgame felt super unfinished so anything that adds to it is a big plus

cinder relic
#

I never played it on launch

#

Its been fun

#

But unsure if I'm gonna keep playing? Idk today just it wasn't hitting

gaunt phoenix
#

Love the ssf mechanics and true offline mode

frail veldt
gaunt phoenix
#

production value of the game def feels a bit low

proven ocean
gaunt phoenix
#

solo self found

frail veldt
proven ocean
#

?

frail veldt
#

too lazy to scroll up

#

was it poe2?

#

I didnt know that had a ssf

proven ocean
#

try reading

#

cuz

peak dock
proven ocean
#

thats what u tell me all the time

frail veldt
#

nah im good

proven ocean
#

ZEROSS GO READ

frail veldt
#

im over it

proven ocean
#

SEE

#

dont tell me go read next time im lazy to scroll up

#

cuh

#

dude this guy is like mrbeast with documentaries

#

rly good videos

gaunt phoenix
frail veldt
#

aaaaaaaah

late swallow
frail veldt
#

I liked last epoch

#

more than poe2

#

by a lot actually lol

proven ocean
late swallow
proven ocean
#

idk

frail veldt
#

his contents pretty good tbh

proven ocean
#

his videos are rly risky tho

#

he does things

frail veldt
#

I like it

#

very interesting

proven ocean
#

that could easily kill him

#

crazy stuff

proven ocean
frail veldt
#

he seems like the son of someone super wealthy

#

and he just doesnt give a fuck

late swallow
#

Kind of like ross

proven ocean
frail veldt
#

I think it does but in a good way ish

#

his demeanor

#

hes like super down for anything

#

hes not worried about making content

late swallow
#

Even kissing boys?

frail veldt
#

seems like hes just genuinely curious

proven ocean
#

well

#

being down to do things has nothing to do with money

#

but ok

frail veldt
#

hes like extremely care free

#

I mean

proven ocean
#

ur cooked abit mewo maybe because its 7 am

frail veldt
#

it can

late swallow
#

I think mewo is right tho

frail veldt
#

most people who have to think about money have like more worries

late swallow
#

If you’re loaded, you gave resources to fall back on

proven ocean
#

maybe

late swallow
#

And can explore/take risks

proven ocean
#

idk what being rich has anything to do with going to the center of the earth

#

i dont see bill gates going there

late swallow
frail veldt
proven ocean
#

does he

gaunt phoenix
# frail veldt by a lot actually lol

for me it's like the opposite of poe2 where the game mechanics have me sold but the general art direction/story/animations/combat feel not quite

proven ocean
#

if i was mega rich sure

#

i'd do crazy stuff

frail veldt
proven ocean
#

like

frail veldt
#

poe2 mechanics were way to slow/tedious for me

late swallow
proven ocean
#

if i was elon musk kind of rich

frail veldt
#

last epoch I felt like it was super easy to experiment with builds

#

similar to d3/d4

proven ocean
#

i'd definitely spend my money to enjoy life very very well

frail veldt
#

which was nice

#

d4 less so

gaunt phoenix
proven ocean
#

i feel like i know how to spend money

frail veldt
#

how do you suck so much at enjoying life

#

that billions of dollars isnt enough

#

like bruh

late swallow
#

Elon is a chud no cap ong

proven ocean
#

idk

frail veldt
#

kinda sad lowkey

late swallow
#

This is him

proven ocean
#

elon uses his money to buy gear and let some booster guy lvl up his charecter on d4 to get r1

frail veldt
#

to pretend that he did it himself

proven ocean
#

ngl tho i do the same to buy gear but

frail veldt
#

lololol

#

thats honestly one of the most embarassing things I could ever imagine

#

jeeeeesus

proven ocean
#

im 100% sure he didnt lvl up to paragon 300

#

that shit

#

takes

#

A WHIIIILE

#

like

#

u need to be lifeless

#

and play alot

#

to get paragon 300 in a d4 season

#

i dont think a busy man like him can do that

#

besides

#

its super cheap to let someone lvl up ur d4 char lol

#

super super cheap

late swallow
#

That stream of him on the plane playing grimes

proven ocean
#

but ngl like

late swallow
proven ocean
#

him getting r1 in d4 on pit leaderboards is doable by him idk why people think he wasnt playing

#

my guy was paragon 300 with full bis gear

#

legit 1 button killed everything

#

lol

late swallow
#

What if elon raided with Echo?

cinder relic
#

You genuinly have to have room temp IQ if you think elon earned any of his D4 "achivements"

proven ocean
#

well, being able to complete the highest pit

#

that fast

#

is doable but

cinder relic
#

D4 isn

proven ocean
#

maybe not by him

gaunt phoenix
#

elon bringing extreme publicity to poe2 was the silver lining to me lol

proven ocean
#

that

#

was

#

a wild one

#

ngl

#

like

cinder relic
#

He paid somebody to grind the gear for him so he can pretend to have "Gamer credit"

proven ocean
#

idk

cinder relic
#

Biggest loser in human history

proven ocean
#

ye true

#

that is actually cringe to brag about

#

because d4 is all about grind

#

and him saying yo i did this

#

nah

cinder relic
#

If u wanna just RMT and blast who gives a fuck

proven ocean
#

u didnt cuh

late swallow
cinder relic
#

But when he brags about it he needs to [redacted]

late swallow
#

Generally, I think Kill Tony is super cringe

#

But kyle dunnigans elon impression is so good

cinder relic
#

lol ya same

late swallow
#

His RFK is banger too

gaunt phoenix
#

my favorite is when he typed tweets on grimes's account that was very obviously himself lol

#

defending it

cinder relic
#

I genuinly don't understand how people can be so fucking stupid to buy the slop hes selling

#

Like the whole, idolization of him

#

He's just a fucking loser

runic bough
#

yoooooooooo

#

Im in the club guys

#

ks doesnt add damage from gally but does on sprocket

proven ocean
#

well

gaunt phoenix
#

is your name saying to uncap gsw

proven ocean
#

elon is a business man

runic bough
#

yes

proven ocean
#

hes good at making money

#

but

#

idk why hes trying to show us hes rly good at games

#

because thats literally never gonna happen

gaunt phoenix
#

how do you uncap a damage bonus to ps

late swallow
#

By making it do infinite damage?????

#

Lol duh

gaunt phoenix
#

ye ok

#

sounds fine

late swallow
#

Bro stays thinking inside the box!

#

Wake up!

gaunt phoenix
#

i like my box

#

when you argue with me this is who

proven ocean
gaunt phoenix
#

hate that

proven ocean
#

fine fine

boreal verge
#

Guys what is the ideal haste for kir now days?

gaunt phoenix
#

You need 25% haste cause adrenaline rush lowers your gcd based on haste and its capped at 25%

#

so ~19% is really 25% after alacrity bonus

wicked acorn
#

Any outlaw tips for doing 14s and above?

proven ocean
#

yeah

#

press N

#

and swap to ass

wicked acorn
#

Ass too broken

#

Fuck that spec

proven ocean
#

i love ass

#

both ingame and out

wicked acorn
proven ocean
#

😘

boreal verge
wicked acorn
#

Poor kitty