fuck
#outlaw
bright crane
What kind of stupidity is this
covert kestrel
shut lichen
now that means i need to make so much crafted shit to get my gilded achievement
then spam keys to max out my alt
damn i got work to do
cinder relic
Just got back from lunch are we complaining about the new ilvl bump
shut lichen
no
shut lichen
we have been good
glass mortar
i think some people r gunna feel a way about needing to kill the boss on the difficulty to get their dinar item
vivid vessel
i said its cringe that dinars are 1 month away
covert kestrel
We don’t ask where the gold comes from
venezuela
glass mortar
I did actually wdym
fluid meadow
give more ilvl to make "balance" low specs are happy to do +1 keylvl, higher will do +2-3 eta gg
vivid vessel
i also said the ilvl bump is cringe cause its a fake patch
trail star
Wait where you guys read crests are warbound? I see only valorstones mentioned
surreal flower
Just got back from lunch are we complaining about the new ilvl bump
Nah this goes hard
glass mortar
yes exactly
cinder relic
vivid vessel
also this should have been today
they just forgot about it or something
why is this coming so late
glass mortar
this is a raid nerf. a pretty big one to
surreal flower
is HoF filled yet
No it’s only at like 125 rn
vivid vessel
.5 wdym
frank finch
fake release
vivid vessel
its ouyt
surreal flower
It slowed down causes of the change that you need to kill oab and mugzee
Expect a lot of guilds to enter hof next week after they kill gallywix this week
glass mortar
if u bought a gally lockout to try to cheese HoF u deserve what u get
hidden bay
yo may 13 dinar
glass mortar
now if u sold a gally lockout on the other hand
hidden bay
pog
glass mortar
😎
grim spear
shut lichen
yes
hidden bay
we only get to buy 1 item?
glass mortar
2 items
shut lichen
items
frank finch
basiclly blizz saying if u want loot for dinar go mthic raiding u m+ casual
hidden bay
ok so
vivid vessel
by then season 3 is there already
hidden bay
they didnt give dinar from renown
vivid vessel
so last week of the season you get to buy your item
hidden bay
cuz its too late
surreal flower
M+ Andy’s keep taking Ls
desert tendon
Zac
hidden bay
but we get to buy an item with dinar later than the renown track would have let us?
vivid vessel
yes
vivid vessel
ye thats fine
desert tendon
what is this bullshit again 
vivid vessel
you can reinstall in one motnh censi
frank finch
but we get to buy an item with dinar later than the renown track would have let ...
yea cuz now mythic track is 8/8 so justified
shut lichen
tbf i'm 70% sure they'll likely change it
in the 3 weeks b4 the first one comes
the mythic kill though is not changing
hidden bay
eh i guess it makes sense dinar wasnt supposed to be ez gearup thing
frank finch
hidden bay
proff?
bright crane
lol so they legit took the original implementation
hidden bay
NOW
shut lichen
you read it here first
Copenhagan
hidden bay
I DONT BELIEVE
bright crane
And just made it worse?
hidden bay
ICANT BELIEVE
frank finch
i will forget todays atrocities if they announce ks change here
bright crane
That’s what took so long to release an announcement?
glass mortar
i mean wtf else could 11.1.7 be
fallen knot
so
glass mortar
11.1.5 was the meme between season content
fallen knot
am i the only one feeling that
hidden bay
ok so no ks change probably
fallen knot
gearing up is ass
glass mortar
yes
shut lichen
660 and 670?
shut lichen
^
fallen knot
i do do delves
glass mortar
i have like 4 guys at 660+ ilvl now
shut lichen
delves are cheat sheets atm
fallen knot
and i always get
glass mortar
2 of them ahve only ever been in delves
fallen knot
the same fucking item
glass mortar
fill out that delve vault
get a 665 every weak
do ur 11s for gildeds
so u can craft stuff
ez
fallen knot
yea 660 and 670 because i get like not even 1ilvl per week
glass mortar
i mean 670 is 5 ilvl above the peak of herioc ilvl
shut lichen
how?
shut lichen
for now
fallen knot
it's soooooooooooooooooooooo slow
shut lichen
glass mortar
top ilvl in my guild is 672
yes its slow
we jumped twice the normal between season ilvl this season
did u not notice
shut lichen
idk grinding on alts has felt somewhat less tedious than before
covert kestrel
idk grinding on alts has felt somewhat less tedious than before
getting to low 660s is super ez now, beyond that is a slog
shut lichen
but also that's cause raid warbound shit has been blessing me
glass mortar
the gilded track is a slog is what we mean to say
more gilded crests in the game
give more!
uncap +11 delves u cowards
glass mortar
thats coming
fallen knot
in the .5
glass mortar
thats with dinar release yes
shut lichen
well when u get the gilded achievement (whatever ilvl that is) and they uncap the gilded it should go real fast
fallen knot
4months into the season
glass mortar
it could come earlier idd
shut lichen
tinfoil is that they don't do that while HoF is still a thing
pearl girder
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red zinc
giving people 6 more ilvls to progress through cause they aint want to do any real content updates
glass mortar
there is surely some class changes in 11.1.7
glass mortar
what classes? who knows
but what the fuck else could it be
11.1.5 is the "content" mini patch
magic shuttle
Mm hunter rework
shut lichen
giving people 6 more ilvls to progress through cause they aint want to do any re...
tbf i don't know what else content could be expected
warm remnant
how come loaded dice isnt used anymore
glass mortar
because of the set bonus
shut lichen
9/10 it's something you do for a week then log off
glass mortar
4set
gaunt phoenix
how come loaded dice isnt used anymore
it conflicts with the tier set and buffed sleight of hand
shut lichen
thought it was only myth track by 2 ilvls
gaunt phoenix
e.,g. why use loaded dice to guarantee 2 buffs sometimes when you have a 65% chance to get 2 buffs anyway
fallen knot
and they also uncap right
wintry solar
Wasn't the rogue revamp on a .7 or was that the addition of aug?
fallen knot
crests
shut lichen
and they also uncap right
yes
hidden bay
.7 will probably have something that explains 11.2
why we are going to ethereal planet
shut lichen
Wasn't the rogue revamp on a .7 or was that the addition of aug?
it was in s2 .7
so after aug iirc
shut lichen
s3 was amirdrassil
jovial sedge
!tot
shut lichen
quick on that edit
jovial sedge
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fallen knot
but like
wintry solar
it conflicts with the tier set and buffed sleight of hand
Would it still contend with LD after we ditch this set you think?
hidden bay
its just a collection of energy
fallen knot
.7 is a billion days from now isnt it
wintry solar
Looks like it
shut lichen
its just a collection of energy
they can collect my energy anyday
gaunt phoenix
Would it still contend with LD after we ditch this set you think?
idk
glass mortar
my guess is yes
the 4set does so much heavy lifting for 2 buff chance idk
imagine spam rolling 1 buff a majority of the time
theres no shot
gaunt phoenix
Corruptions are 3%ish on st btw
hidden bay
thats not bad
glass mortar
thank god gusher is good
hidden bay
how about aoe?
cold jewel
cinder relic
GUSH
glass mortar
the gush returns 👏 👏
grim spear
A 6 item level increase? Then Outlaw definitely needs another aura buff.
shut lichen
gusshy does hard
fallen knot
:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
fallen knot
well
hollow temple
Maybe they’ll change it
fallen knot
but
hollow temple
Have a feeling a lot of people are gonna complain
fallen knot
if you wait for hall of fame to close
glass mortar
the dinars in fated seasons were clearly intended as part of gearing up
glass mortar
they stated these dinars are not meant to be for gearing up
shut lichen
Have a feeling a lot of people are gonna complain
they'd complain either way tbh
cold jewel
we have only ever had dinars for seasons that "don't matter". can't really compare their acquisition to a real season
glass mortar
they are meant to be for aquiring whatever last pieces of ur bis ur missing
shut lichen
it's to help you not hate your loot council as much
hollow temple
they'd complain either way tbh
About the time gating maybe
shut lichen
fuck knows why they did what they did but they did
fallen knot
if they're not meant for gearing up
shut lichen
it's not a negative
cinder relic
Dinars never gave u mythic gear for free lol
fallen knot
but to fill for bis
shut lichen
but sure it could be more positive
fallen knot
then give in .5
shut lichen
but free mythic gear is wild
cold jewel
Dinars never gave u mythic gear for free lol
genuine question because i don't remember, did you actually have to do mythic to level up the pieces in DF S4?
fallen knot
not a month into .5
red zinc
Dinars never gave u mythic gear for free lol
i mean crests werent some massive disaster lets be honest
shut lichen
then give in .5
.5 is like half the season also
red zinc
practically free by the time you got said tokens
shut lichen
i remember when i could finally afford edge of night
and could upgrade it to mythic after like a month
good shit
glass mortar
genuine question because i don't remember, did you actually have to do mythic to...
in shadowlands u could buy any item regardless of ur boss kills, you had to kill mythic raid bosses to get the currency to upgrade
shut lichen
good times
wary wind
Are they just done tuning now
glass mortar
but technically speaking u never had to kill the boss that item dropped from
fallen knot
still you had the item
glass mortar
it was just number of bosses killed
cold jewel
in shadowlands u could buy any item regardless of ur boss kills, you had to kill...
i know my question was for DF S4
glass mortar
wasnt s4 the same
fallen knot
instead of not getting the fucking item over and over
cold jewel
i dont think it was, wasn't every item just required to spend crests to get to 12/12?
which you could get from keys
cinder relic
genuine question because i don't remember, did you actually have to do mythic to...
You got currency for doing mythic bosses
cold jewel
oh maybe i just dont remember
cinder relic
Idr if u needed to kill x boss on y difficulty to get it tho
cold jewel
ty
red zinc
that was SL
cold jewel
i remember it from SLands because i wasn't mythic raiding then
warm remnant
yeah
red zinc
df you just got the awakened track item
warm remnant
df was just crest and valorstones
red zinc
wasnt any
shut lichen
but again as this isn't the for fun season i can see why they didn't go down that route
glass mortar
ye
proven ocean
<@352916297262301194> <@1172550924519080006> they fixed priory strat
what priory strat
desert tendon
the one
where u do 10%
while doing the boss
because you were killing sergents from health share
red zinc
que
surreal flower
There was no shot that they were gonna leave that strat in
You never even engaged in combat with the mobs for 10% count
desert tendon
u still kill them
but they gave 0% if they re too far from you or something
idk how they coded it
fluid meadow
so u still can abuse if u pull him at 1% and just run/jump?
untold yarrow
invite a premade to my key. nobody saying anything. i say yo. give them 2 min to respond.
reasonable course of action imho
surreal flower
but they gave 0% if they re too far from you or something
red zinc
invite a premade to my key. nobody saying anything. i say yo. give them 2 min to...
theyre just avoiding typers curse
very based
late swallow
invite a premade to my key. nobody saying anything. i say yo. give them 2 min to...
What if he’s non verbal
untold yarrow
nah
red zinc
going non verbal guys
untold yarrow
if u join a group and dont say anything
red zinc
untold yarrow
going pre-non verbal
cold jewel
Didn't DF S4 Dinar vendor also have m+ trinkets?
untold yarrow
is a red flag
red zinc
Didn't DF S4 Dinar vendor also have m+ trinkets?
nah
fallen knot
and
glass mortar
by the end of the season its pretty rare u dont get an item u want if ur a serious raider
glass mortar
much more common for m+ stuffs
desert tendon
invite a premade to my key. nobody saying anything. i say yo. give them 2 min to...
i m doing that 100% of the time
u invite some dude
first thing they type is 123
untold yarrow
kick
desert tendon
i kick them insta no thanks
cold jewel
by the end of the season its pretty rare u dont get an item u want if ur a serio...
normally i'd agree with you, but after personally not getting a GB trinket on my enhance last season after 40+ runs (with half being group runs with multiple people that could trade me) i just gave up lmao
would be nice if they included at least m+ weapons and trinkets for each season they plan on doing this for
hushed horizon
You can not convince people to give any sort of loot benefit to m+
upbeat tundra
lol you have to raid for dinars gg
frank finch
glass mortar
u were always gunna need to raid for dinars, u buy raid loot with them
has there ever been a dinar u didnt raid for??
u didnt always need to kill the specific bosses
hushed horizon
I wonder how much for a mythic mug kill
No one thinks about if someone's bis trinket is from dungeons tho
glass mortar
yea its pretty doomed when thats the case
still matrix
"Dinar gear requires Mythic boss to be killed for Myth track piece"
are they fucking high
cinder relic
that's kinda normal
still matrix
I dont think it was in s4 df?
to be fair i didnt play s3 df though
so idk how it was then
glass mortar
idk why people expected the same dinar from fated seasons as during a regular season, but its probably partially on blizz for dangling dinar in front of us and never clarifying
altho the blue post does clarify
these dinar are not meant to be for improving ur ilvl/gearing up like fated dinar. these are for finishing out the last items u never got
red zinc
definitely another boosting motivator though
still matrix
hushed horizon
It's true tho
red zinc
maybe im losing the plot but they are really tailoring the game to boosting man
guess they make second hand profits off of it
just a bit cringe though
hushed horizon
Guilds are gonna be selling kills left and right so people can buy myth track with dinars
glass mortar
i mean
i dont know if this idea is unreasonable even if it boosts boosting communities
is the concept of "you need to kill X boss at least once on the difficulty you want its item from to buy the item" really that out there
red zinc
oh for sure the idea is fine
glass mortar
for a regular wow season
red zinc
its just like
glass mortar
it definitly has the hangon of increasing the amount of boosts being sold for sure
red zinc
a lot of game improving ideas were shooed off before because it would support boosting
glass mortar
idk if id say they had that in mind at all when designing it tho
hushed horizon
My cynicism is too high with blizz
red zinc
ban boosting 
covert kestrel
as an aotc andy who has no desire to CE ever, I would be more inclined to keep raiding if I could do the first four of mythic and eventually upgrade the good gear from the later bosses, even if it doesnt make sense for me to unlock it without beating those bosses. There is a vast vast majority of playerbase that will never set foot in a mythic raid who maybe would want one or two pieces of gear tops from heroic at this point. Like dinars are a nothing burger for me, just gonna keep doing m+ with da boyz and when we stop we stop
(all opinons expressed herein are my own)
red zinc
as an aotc andy who has no desire to CE ever, I would be more inclined to keep r...
sl system unironically was pretty okay for this
hollow temple
idk why people expected the same dinar from fated seasons as during a regular se...
maybe true, but i feel like it wouldn't hurt anyone for it to be the case
proven ocean
@desert tendon
glass mortar
well ur wrong tho
hushed horizon
maybe true, but i feel like it wouldn't hurt anyone for it to be the case
Top tiers would cry
hollow temple
like it doesn't negatively impact anyone to just let it be
hollow temple
it would hurt boosting communities
no one cares though
covert kestrel
like it doesn't negatively impact anyone to just let it be
hurts blizzard carrot growin biz
desert tendon
i think
aug + assa is better
but ok
iirc breath of eons dont take sectech clones damage in
still matrix
I wonder if you clear 8/8m one char, you log different char can you use dinar to buy all loot still on myth track
hushed horizon
There are people who have nothing except their gear and will froth at the mouth when they see delvers in heroic bis
runic bough
I got second dagger last night
untold yarrow
i just died twice to greed KS on mechagon 3rd boss
runic bough
Might go sin
hushed horizon
The fact that m+ players get any myth gear at all is a huge issue to them
runic bough
Sin sounds way better than playing ks
hollow temple
There are people who have nothing except their gear and will froth at the mouth ...
yep and i just find it funny that anyone can craft -3 ilvl gear, but oh no we cannot allow them to buy myth track >_>
runic bough
And I hate sin
cold jewel
There are people who have nothing except their gear and will froth at the mouth ...
this may be accurate for like a fraction of a fraction of the community, most mythic raiders literally couldn't care any less than they already do
hushed horizon
It's unfortunately a vocal fraction
I don't think you all realize how difficult of a boss mythic vexie is
cold jewel
well that's just the reality of complaining. the people that are happy/content/unfazed by this type of change aren't going to be the ones making posts about it
runic bough
Dinars being available to mythic raid kills only further sets boosting a priority.
Meanwhile the crafting system helps people buy tokens for gold. Except most players are probably not buying token from Bliz teehee
cold jewel
I don't think you all realize how difficult of a boss mythic vexie is
ok you lost me
runic bough
We are living in wild times outlaws
hushed horizon
Because like post above said, majority of raiders really don't care about gear others get for doing their content
surreal flower
Other peoples gear doesn’t matter but I will absolutely facilitate them earning the gear they want for a price 
glass mortar
yes
still matrix
+25 or some shit
glass mortar
try cloaking and going thru the beam
maybe it stops initial damage
u still get the dot tho
still matrix
3.7k+ title
glass mortar
and the dot does like
5m a second
xd
dont press ks during that thingy unless its 1 cp i swear
hushed horizon
I will not look at timers I will not look at cast bars I will not look at terrain I will cast KS with max points
covert kestrel
I will not look at timers I will not look at cast bars I will not look at terrai...
hushed horizon
God is my shadow; I will flash step every mechanic
vivid vessel
@fathom bramble
not stopping dps
on mug
anymore
absolute dopamine
went from absolute worse boss ever to banger
fathom bramble
It’s never fun to stop damage for 10-20 seconds
gaunt phoenix
oh
vivid vessel
i hit sprint instantly when it comes up cause i have a weak aura in the middle of my screen
and i cant see shit
wary wind
Outlaw buffs on the way right guys?
vivid vessel
why you looking at my log tho
trying to find mistakes or what
there aint any
bozo
fallen knot
checking for b*g abusing
covert kestrel
Outlaw buffs on the way right guys?
They're giving us an extra dinar as compensation for making us play ks this tier
gaunt phoenix
i was looking at how you use magnet on this boss
fallen knot
what do i even do with dinars if i cant buy the bis item? do i just keep them in bag and waste space?
glass mortar
gally timing on hc u can usually hold ur first use for first adds spawn if u wanna pad
altho i dont know if it will cleave adds if u use it on him
might need to use it on them
was ~27-29 stacks for me when first adds spawn usually
wary wind
Now introducing dinars you know and love but the worst most annoying version of them 😃😃
gaunt phoenix
idk they shouldnt have called them dinars i guess
glass mortar
yeaa that was an L, they shoulda lowered expectations
gaunt phoenix
gives it a loaded connotation
fallen knot
just dont even introduce them if you lock them behind boss kill
frail veldt
i hit sprint instantly when it comes up cause i have a weak aura in the middle o...
LOL thats ridiculous
so you just slam sprint on cd
always
desert tendon
i hit sprint instantly when it comes up cause i have a weak aura in the middle o...
dont try to gaslight us
you macroed sprint
to all your buttons
we know it alreayd
frail veldt
Now introducing dinars you know and love but the worst most annoying version of ...
just because you have to kill the boss on mythic to get an item for it?
its kinda restrictive yeah not sure why they did that
vivid vessel
LOL thats ridiculous
no i meant the evoker thing
vivid vessel
i was looking at how you use magnet on this boss
meh
i tried holding for adds on rik
and it did like 0.1%
of the trinket damage
desert tendon
0.1% 
gaunt phoenix
ye its huge
vivid vessel
of the trinket damage
its absolute trash useless so idk
maybe i will try again
on gally
see what happens
i think its just bad
glass mortar
have u tried cheesing it at all zac
cheesing it is super op in delves
ive managed to do it a few times in m+ but
i dont think its worth trying too hard in m+
gaunt phoenix
i thought they fixed it or im just bad at it
glass mortar
i think (i havent done enough testing to say 100% certain) that it needs to kill the mob with the first two hits of it, it hits like 3 times?
covert kestrel
what do i even do with dinars if i cant buy the bis item? do i just keep them in...
just use them for mogs you wont get
glass mortar
if the final projectile is what kills it it doesnt keep the stacks
unless they just fully fixed it in 11.1.5
i was definitly cheesing it in delves last week
fathom bramble
Rip
late swallow
upgrade 6 --> 8 is so bad
vivid vessel
!fuu
late swallow
Popular sentiment will be like "this is really bad"
and then guy will come in here like
"nah it's really good"
bright crane
Calling it now they’re going to change it
elder badge
does it matter who to focus on priory 1st boss? no ghostly strike
bright crane
Completely arbitrary limitations
magic shuttle
maybe they can release the dinar earlier but the kill boss requirement is fine
bright crane
Kill boss requirement is stupid
shut lichen
upgrade 6 --> 8 is so bad
idk it'd feel a whole lot more shit if you they weren't going to uncap the crests
glass mortar
wow i might actually be on guys side with this
covert kestrel
"nah it's really good"
Can i interest you in an opinion, ... perhaps of the contrarian nature??
shut lichen
Kill boss requirement is stupid
is it though?
bright crane
Yeah it is
glass mortar
i didnt realize "you need to kill a boss at least one time ever to get its loot on its difficulty" was that controversial
vivid vessel
stop dps on wat zac?
mugzweeuwu
glass mortar
i guess people got so spoiled by fated seasons
late swallow
i didnt realize "you need to kill a boss at least one time ever to get its loot ...
controversial*
gotchu king
covert kestrel
REKT
shut lichen
covert kestrel
ITS OVER
desert tendon
mugzweeuwu
how comes
covert kestrel
OPINION INVALID WERAN
desert tendon
people do it with 4 heal lust at 4mn to be sure to have enough dps to skip it proprely
and you guys just stay there and afk?
late swallow
glass mortar
????
quaint wharf
so theyre basically just raising the max ilvl
hollow temple
i guess people got so spoiled by fated seasons
I didn’t even play rated seasons and I think it’s kinda dumb
quaint wharf
with crafted and 6 -> 8 changes
glass mortar
yea i mean i dont
but i guess its blizzard fault for even mentioning dinar
if they had never mentioned them and never provided them nobody would be complaining
dinars were meant to be the 4 fun unserious season thing
i was hoping theyd spread out of fated seasons but im not surprised they r more limited
🤷
just another way to get free gear
vivid vessel
I mean i know its not outlaw
idk why you ping me every day to show me specs better than outlaw
vivid vessel
its getting depressing
quaint wharf
its getting depressing
zac i wont lie i looked at ur gear
why do u have a crafted dagger
are u leaving us
vivid vessel
i played sub on prog cuh
hollow temple
vivid vessel
its the opposite
proven ocean
<@352916297262301194>
@vivid vessel can outlaw do this?
hollow temple
Zac left many seasons ago
late swallow
proven ocean
hollow temple
Zac does 5m+ there
hollow temple
No 🧢
late swallow
yeah all the redditors seething and farding and shidding about the difficulty requirements
proven ocean
could've done 5m overall
late swallow
go kill mythic mugzee
desert tendon
zero beating random fotm dk
that does the same dps as him playing rogue for 20 years
but the dk plays for only 2 days
gg zero we re happi for ya
late swallow
dk was tabbed out
quaint wharf
UDK was using 1 hand
late swallow
gooning to palmbee or naguura
covert kestrel
udk was using hekili
quaint wharf
gooning to palmbee or naguura
proven ocean
https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-speedrunner-epic-gamer-sweatyspeedrunner-gif-22461...
???????????
median nimbus
guys should i take myth honey buzzer?, i already have myth wax whistle idk if its worth using 2 dmg trinkets in m+ instead of a stat one
late swallow
guys should i take myth honey buzzer?, i already have myth wax whistle idk if it...
sim yourself king
gaunt phoenix
buzzer is too annoying to use
leaden folio
@jade abyss
vivid vessel
real
bright crane
Keep ur day job Zac
jade abyss
I got this as well I don't deserve it but others in my guild play even less atm
rotund zodiac
vivid vessel
you're much better and you know it
!!!
im getting a blue
thanks to you
again
!!!!!!
im so mad
jade abyss
Yeah my Gallywix was awful, our evoker is blasting the adds but I played poorly regardless and the rng probably was average
mossy nacelle
hey what are the main stats we need?
quaint wharf
juicing him
proven ocean
2.7m pure st dps on 1st boss
leaden folio
Leonmarchand 
quaint wharf
outlaw can triple that
rotund zodiac
bro chinese players stole my rank 1 Stix 😭
late swallow
3.5 mill pure ST ez for outlaw
late swallow
bro chinese players stole my rank 1 Stix 😭
gotta watch out for those sneaky chinese
quaint wharf
bro chinese players stole my rank 1 Stix 😭
mossy nacelle
hey what are the main stats we need?
gaunt phoenix
vers haste
rotund zodiac
haste (until cap) and vers
quaint wharf
!haste
rotund zodiac
hmm bot down?
quaint wharf
bot broken? 
bright crane
Blizz must have gotten their hands on it
gaunt phoenix
A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like
Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.*But Haste has a **requirement ** because
Adrenaline Rush lowers your GCD based on it, down to 0.8s at 25% haste.
The
KIR build wants 18-20% haste from rating, because its only haste buff is from
Alacrity.
The
HO build meets this requirement with 8-10% haste from rating because of
Take 'em by Surprise, but the new HO + Supercharger build continues to like Haste just because of energy, so you will have to sim. Your sim may settle for KIR-levels of haste (~18%) or slightly lower.
You need to use
Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use.
You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.
vivid vessel
Yeah my Gallywix was awful, our evoker is blasting the adds but I played poorly ...
you killed it already
didnt see
or you mean last reset
meant this one
jade abyss
They brought 5 bench players on the kill so they learn it as well
jade abyss
yeah I'm aware I have a very good gear
vivid vessel
im getting gally weapon now for sure
vivid vessel
yeah I'm aware I have a very good gear
im catching up tho
jade abyss
but let me cope that I'm doing good
jade abyss
at times
vivid vessel
i need to fix this tho
jade abyss
The ring is the hardest to get
vivid vessel
idk how
dawn tundra
So, I'm looking at the Dinars and kind of worried. I'm not going to do shit on Mythic, so that's fine, right? I don't have a SINGLE Mythic crest or anything like that, so eh. My worry comes from how they seem to be timegating it poorly.
jade abyss
worst part is that we saw 2x rings with Heavy vers and haste during splits but I was never on the rogue on both splits
jade abyss
its crit one tho so unfort
honestly crit or haste feels good
vivid vessel
this one mythic tho
vivid vessel
honestly crit or haste feels good
ye but
not really
crit is very annoying
now i need to find haste on every slot
and im playing haste flask
im trading 1k crit for vers basically
if that was haste vers i would be 1 k vers richer
which is no joke !
bright crane
So, I'm looking at the Dinars and kind of worried. I'm not going to do shit on M...
Mythic crests= gilded crests. The biggest change they made is that if you didn’t kill the boss on M, you can purchase the M track item with a dinar. But if you killed it on H, you can purchase the H track of the item
dawn tundra
Mythic crests= gilded crests. The biggest change they made is that if you didn’t...
Gilded Crests are Mythic Crests?
I thought there was something above Gilded for Myth-track gear.
near rock
@vivid vessel why u type so much
bright crane
I thought there was something above Gilded for Myth-track gear.
Nope gilded is required for 662+ upgrades
It’s the highest one
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> why u type so much
waiting to pull
dawn tundra
Nope gilded is required for 662+ upgrades
Huh. I didn't know that.
bright crane
Yep. And they start dropping from 6 or 7s now can’t remember which. Very easy to farm
dawn tundra
Yep. And they start dropping from 6 or 7s now can’t remember which. Very easy to...
I think it's 8s in terms of Delves, which is what I do to get Gilded Crests. And considering most of my gear these days is Heroic anyways? I'm good to go!
hollow temple
its 11 for delves innit
gaunt phoenix
yes
hollow temple
bountiful 11s
gaunt phoenix
and only limited to 21 per week from delves
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> why u type so much
also
idk if you noticed
but in here
word per minutes = apm
cold jewel
nah i think zac just wants to be like Ross so he types like him
bright crane
Zac and Ross sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G
desert tendon
I m the og yapper
cold jewel
latent oak
u can spell the casted aoe by standing in it inbetween 1st and 2nd boss
big dam i think
mossy nacelle
whats the best stats for outlaw?
spare dome
mossy nacelle
I mean on armor
gaunt phoenix
whats the best stats for outlaw?
Vers haste
mossy nacelle
Vers haste
for the HO build aswell?
frozen pasture
!wa
gaunt phoenix
you need a somewhat arbitrary amount of haste and will have to sim
could end up between 14-18% or so
mossy nacelle
you need a somewhat arbitrary amount of haste and will have to sim
I've 5% haste rn
gaunt phoenix
but otherwise you get 21000 vers ye
gaunt phoenix
I've 5% haste rn
oof
gaunt phoenix
we require x amount of haste for adrenaline rush, with lowers our gcd based on haste
for the HO build, this requirement is ~9%
but HO continues to like haste for energy, so it continues being a very good stat for a while
quaint wharf
i need to recraft some stuff i think, my stats got weird this last week
im at 21% haste rn
gaunt phoenix
perhaps a bit much
quaint wharf
doesnt feel bad tbh
gaunt phoenix
but sometimes it's how it be
proven ocean
yte
ye
3 weeks for 1 item
its cringe
and u have to wait 1 month for it to unlock, another month to buy the item
like
i dont get it
why are we waiting 2 more months for 1 item?
haughty wigeon
Idk
haughty wigeon
Having it gated that way
haughty wigeon
Having both is dumb
vivid vessel
While also having it gated for mythic kills
noob opinion detected !
haughty wigeon
Might as well have it on renown track anyways
proven ocean
While also having it gated for mythic kills
noob opinion detected !
haughty wigeon
If it’s gonna be this late
Ya noob opinion detected
I stand by it
It’s cringe as balls
bright crane
Dinar release is legit just releasing it to say they released it cause they promised it
haughty wigeon
They can keep mythic kill gate
bright crane
Nah f thay
bright crane
I think it’s the worst part of the whole thing
haughty wigeon
3 weeks to get one and you have to have killed mythic gally to get the only item worth getting
I like the recrafting thing I guess
The ilvl boost is just so people can blast through mythic raid
But it’s also annoying if that’s the reasoning to justify getting dinars like this
craggy quiver
bright crane
lol so far 11.1.5 just making sure to take as many Ls as possible
proven ocean
YO
'WTF
VALORSTONES BECOME WARBOUND
INSAAAAAAAAAAAANE
HOLY SHIT
WHY NOT GILDED CRESTS TOO?
haughty wigeon
higher ilvl
You do
Recraft is higher ilvl
Mythic and heroic track goes from 6to8
cold jewel
WHY NOT GILDED CRESTS TOO?
probably because they want you to play the character that you're gearing instead of banking 600 gilded crests from your main to instantly shoot your alt up to 684 ilvl
cold jewel
they are adding ilvl to hero and myth tiers
proven ocean
cuz thats what i said
haughty wigeon
Your mythic items Weill go from 6 track to 8
cold jewel
ah maybe i misunderstood what Twilight fake rem was saying
proven ocean
dont call him twilight
haughty wigeon
And you can recraft your items to have more ilvl
proven ocean
we know
haughty wigeon
classic rem yapping
desert tendon
So bad
vivid vessel
im so mad at myself
desert tendon
Bozo
fathom bramble
Gg
vivid vessel
ye
im very mad at myself
well a guy snipped me with a lines
but
fuck man
i could have lived
it was 3.06 log
why does this say 665
is it a scam or
there is no other vendor right
it will spawn 671
midnight granite
Find out
vivid vessel
why does the thingy says 671 tho
teal garnet
curios are always at boss that drops it ilv
vivid vessel
am i getting scamed rn ?
teal garnet
if you got a late tier piece
proven ocean
blizzard are dumb
teal garnet
it would be higher
proven ocean
thats why
vivid vessel
no but