outlaw

[haughty wigeon]

Idk

[gaunt phoenix]

It wont dw

[haughty wigeon]

Is it still dreadblades?

[vivid vessel]

i mean

[magic shuttle]

killing spree the burst cd

[haughty wigeon]

Ya it’s probably for the best if outlaw doesn’t have burst

Unless they really commit to having a viable playstyle option with talent trees

But they won’t

Cause it’s blizzard

[haughty wigeon]

Following that as well

[vivid vessel]

pressing db gives you 5 dreabdables buffs, a dreadblade buff makes your next ss gives max cp and makes your next finisher deals aditional damage and (no please no) consume a % of your health

[novel socket]

If you want burst you can play fury

[haughty wigeon]

What defines ability

[vivid vessel]

would that really not feel like db

[haughty wigeon]

Like that last part

The hp

[vivid vessel]

db to me is just rapid fire finishers right

the hp thing was always just an annoyance

[haughty wigeon]

As stupid and redacted that might sound

That is part of db fantasy

[vivid vessel]

they prolly would keep it ye

but

eh

you get me

i wouldnt mind that being gone

[haughty wigeon]

Iya I got you

The spec needs visuals

[vivid vessel]

but like to me db is just rapid fire finishers, or rahter, make builders better for a period of time

which this does aswell

so idk

[haughty wigeon]

Cause db was also neat

[gaunt phoenix]

Oh i need to sim corrupts for tomorrow (?)

[vivid vessel]

would feels the same as old db to me

[haughty wigeon]

Cause greed had a visual

[vivid vessel]

[gaunt phoenix]

corruptions

[vivid vessel]

corruptions

[haughty wigeon]

Lmao

[vivid vessel]

[haughty wigeon]

Gl

Inbf

It’s tentacles

[haughty wigeon]

Basically ya

You incorporated greed into it to

So that’s basically it

[vivid vessel]

what was greed

oh you mean

but wasnt that db aswell ?

[haughty wigeon]

Spenders explode

No

[vivid vessel]

wasnt db making your finisher do more dam

ah

i tought there was that part aswell

[haughty wigeon]

So you did more prio and aoe dam

Nah

[vivid vessel]

forgor

[haughty wigeon]

Wasn’t added

That’s why db was very lackluster post legion

And was only good when you paired it with flag venthyr lego

Cause it gave it that extra UMPH

ya know?

[vivid vessel]

ye

I mean

[wintry solar]

I rember

[vivid vessel]

db was never bad

it just competed against better talents

[foggy mural]

so i've ready through the outlaw guides and i am kind of wondering if i got one thing right. while playing HO if reroll on cooldown if not having 4 or more buffs even in subterfuge windows?

[haughty wigeon]

Yep

[vivid vessel]

like in sl it was against mfd/6cp

[haughty wigeon]

To Zac not u equinox

[vivid vessel]

iirc

or was it

no it was

alacrity

nvm

[proven ocean]

Zac

[haughty wigeon]

Idk I wasn’t mfd

[vivid vessel]

but ye

al;actrity was too good

[proven ocean]

wtf how do u not know about holidays

[haughty wigeon]

It was not that either????

I don’t remember

Lemme check

[vivid vessel]

ye it was

[proven ocean]

Even I knew ur holiday

[gaunt phoenix]

4 buffs you can keep

[wintry solar]

I looked at the SL talents the other day and I still forgot

[proven ocean]

Btw Zac

[gaunt phoenix]

its not really an expected dps difference to roll over them

[proven ocean]

Jpc streams are coming up soon

[vivid vessel]

@haughty wigeon

[proven ocean]

He got his camera yesterday

[vivid vessel]

its hwere cannon bal is

i cnat find the sl one

[haughty wigeon]

Oh shit it was

[vivid vessel]

ah here actually

in french even

banger

[haughty wigeon]

Lmao

[vivid vessel]

ye

[haughty wigeon]

I remember hating the fact

We didn’t take quick draw

[vivid vessel]

ye

[vivid vessel]

nice

no rogue tho so

gg

[haughty wigeon]

Vigor deeper and mfd was also a neat choice

I like how we touched all three of that row depending on gear and coven

And blade rush was good

[vivid vessel]

we never did vigor in sl

[haughty wigeon]

For energy drought

[proven ocean]

Well we need buffs, sub is the worst spec in the raid atm

[still matrix]

Jpc should play rogue just so he can complain about outlaw with more viewers

[haughty wigeon]

You did if you were undergeard

For obvious reason

I remember it being a option

[vivid vessel]

we were playing with 0 haste in sl aswell

so idk what you mean about undergeared

[novel socket]

A bit Hyperbole dont you think

[haughty wigeon]

Verse crit

As always

[vivid vessel]

ye

which does nothing for energy tho

[shell fossil]

it would be nice if they added some more positional gameplay to rogue

[haughty wigeon]

Yep

Idk I guess I was being a noob

[proven ocean]

?

[vivid vessel]

?

[proven ocean]

Idk if ur clueless or if ur just dumb

[vivid vessel]

can you stfu

woolmart

[proven ocean]

Has to be one of the 2

[vivid vessel]

i will block your ass

[shell fossil]

no

[haughty wigeon]

Wasn’t there a cook

With weapon master

[shell fossil]

you don't like burst on outlaw ignored

[haughty wigeon]

Triple threat

Nah spec is to different

Can’t have burst anymore

[vivid vessel]

what does that have to do about positional gameplay

[haughty wigeon]

It can tho

Have execute

[proven ocean]

We had 2 extremely dumb comments from 2 mega dense people

No cap

At the same time

[haughty wigeon]

Make gsw make pistol shot do 7 times more on execute

[shell fossil]

i said rogue not outlaw sheesh read the words

[vivid vessel]

ye what does that change

[haughty wigeon]

Idk what positional gameplay means

Like

[vivid vessel]

bro said positional gameplay

[haughty wigeon]

U hit more if your south of the boss

[vivid vessel]

hitting in the back

[haughty wigeon]

Oh

[vivid vessel]

the most horrendous thing ever

[haughty wigeon]

That’s dumb

[vivid vessel]

absolute trash

delete it from the game

[haughty wigeon]

We are already plagued by parry

And dodge

Fucking

HIT RATING

[wintry solar]

Gouge in pvp

Is so rough to use in a pinch

[haughty wigeon]

AND EXPERTISE STAT % CAPS

FUCK

[vivid vessel]

soon they are removing parry

dw

[haughty wigeon]

I’m not looking forward to that in classic mists

Legion remix soon

[vestal notch]

Positional gameplay is the reason i hate lockenwhatever on sub losing fw

[vivid vessel]

i wonder why parry hasnt been removed yet tbh

[haughty wigeon]

Trust

[vivid vessel]

when they keep making bosses

where you legit cant be behind

ever

like locken

mugzee

and

[haughty wigeon]

It’s strange

[vivid vessel]

about every boss

in the game

[haughty wigeon]

But like

[vivid vessel]

actually

[haughty wigeon]

They would have to rebalance a lot of shit

[vivid vessel]

let me thing of one boss we are allowed to hit in the back

[haughty wigeon]

If they remove parry

[vivid vessel]

?

parry

[frank finch]

you should made that bet with guy zac

unlucky

[vivid vessel]

not the melee thing

just parry

i think you are thinking about the other thing

[haughty wigeon]

Okay let’s define

When I say Larry

[vivid vessel]

this isnt parry

[haughty wigeon]

I think of crab

[vivid vessel]

the melee miss thing

ye btu thats not parry

[wintry solar]

https://tenor.com/view/larry-larry-cat-chat-larry-meme-chat-meme-cat-gif-10061556685042597078

[vivid vessel]

thats just default miss

[haughty wigeon]

Oh then ya

[vivid vessel]

which doesnt change based on positionnement

unless im stupid bro

[haughty wigeon]

I guess I’m thinking of that then

[vivid vessel]

but

[haughty wigeon]

Idk

[frank finch]

i think ur wrong

[haughty wigeon]

Haladronis

How he couldn’t parry your stuff

[vivid vessel]

parry is different than melee miss

[haughty wigeon]

Which led to a super neat havoc playstyle

That’s what I’m talking about

[frank finch]

i swear its the same thing in logs

[vivid vessel]

no its not

you get melee miss against mobs that cant parry

you also get melee miss in the back

its not the same shit at all

[haughty wigeon]

Ya and that melee miss

Means it doesn’t do anything right?

[vivid vessel]

ye they would need to tune

[haughty wigeon]

Ye

[vivid vessel]

if they removed melee miss

but no one cares about that tho

[haughty wigeon]

So we’re talking about the same thing

[vivid vessel]

no one

no

im talkig about parry

which is different than melee miss

melees just have a baseline change to miss idk

[proven ocean]

[haughty wigeon]

Parry stops killing spree

[vivid vessel]

ye

[haughty wigeon]

Fucking parry

[proven ocean]

U can’t parry

[haughty wigeon]

I sleep now

[proven ocean]

Cuz fazed

[vivid vessel]

look you still get mlee miss with trickster

its not the same thing as parry

parry is parry

[haughty wigeon]

[vivid vessel]

you get parried once a year but it still dictated your life

[haughty wigeon]

I love it when

My hammer of light

Gets parried

And then it doesn’t do anything

[vivid vessel]

yes you get it

[haughty wigeon]

Essb gets parried so it doesn’t work

[vivid vessel]

thats parry

[haughty wigeon]

Fuck parry

[vivid vessel]

yes

and removing that

doesnt change anyuthing to the game

doesnt need tuning

you get parried like once a year

[haughty wigeon]

I guess I got the wire crossed

Between the two concepts

Since both are annoying as shit

[vivid vessel]

well i think they are linked but idk

parry is like

mobs higher level than you can parry or some shit

thats all

remove it and its gone

no one cares

gg

[frank finch]

show me a trickster log with no parries but has misses

[haughty wigeon]

Remember

[vivid vessel]

i just did

wdym

[haughty wigeon]

When casters used to deal with spell resist

[wary wind]

hi all, re visiting the topic the other day someone said you could get your ace sound effect louder in game, i found this on wago https://wago.io/6GM43FEaa but not s ure if this is the correct link?

[haughty wigeon]

And then spell resist was removed

[vivid vessel]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[vivid vessel]

the outlaw one is linked here

[wary wind]

ty

[vivid vessel]

@frank finch

[frank finch]

[vivid vessel]

see

not the smae thing bozo

[frank finch]

so your tellign me

[vivid vessel]

you get melee misses in m+

im telling you parry and melee misses are not the same thing at all lol

they might be related somewhat but

they arent

you always get melee misses unless super special cases

like halondrus idk why dont ask me

[frank finch]

we are dealign with TWO different positon reqiurments that hurt us

[vivid vessel]

no

mleee misses arent positional

thats why i said these dont matter no one cares

[frank finch]

well now i care

15 %

is alot of meeleas

[vivid vessel]

well

oik

but

that doesnt matter

its just the game

you are tuned around this

you will alwyas have 15% of your melees that will miss

[frank finch]

but it cna impact gameplay to

cuz of how we work

[vivid vessel]

ye a bit

not really tho

you know what imapct gameplay tho

parry

[haughty wigeon]

Some specs more than others

But parry more annoying

Cause it cancels out shit

Completely

[vivid vessel]

and its a positional requirement

[frank finch]

rate my take - us making the whole raid not parry is more useful then anthropic

[vivid vessel]

which isnt posisble to havbe

in raid

[vivid vessel]

idk i tought about that

but i dont think parry is like

[haughty wigeon]

Dated mechanic

[vivid vessel]

a real dps loss

its just annoyuing \

[haughty wigeon]

It’s just annoying

Well

[vivid vessel]

and sometimes you get important things parried

[haughty wigeon]

It’s also a dps loss

[vivid vessel]

like kb on sin

[frank finch]

nah i counted al lthe parries from a log one time

[vivid vessel]

but i dont think its that relevant in term of dps loss you know

[haughty wigeon]

For specs that has its burst tied to a. Damaging ability

[frank finch]

esp the warroir

[haughty wigeon]

Havoc again comes to mind

[frank finch]

he got so many big hits parried

[haughty wigeon]

Arms warrior

[valid kindle]

if my 4pc mongoose bite on sv gets parried I'll scream

[haughty wigeon]

That’s a plus for consistent damage profiles

[vivid vessel]

wait

[haughty wigeon]

Parry doesn’t duck you over as badly

[vivid vessel]

can sprocklet not parry

it cant or

unles im stupid

[haughty wigeon]

It’s just annoying

[lyric steeple]

After the bug fix is fatebound viable?

[vivid vessel]

ye i dont think sproket can parry

anyway

here is oab warrior

bit of parry

meh

not much

its not particularly happening much

idk maybe oab isnt the right boss to check this

[frank finch]

were u see parry tere

[vivid vessel]

but i dont think parry is that relevant

in the miss% thing

its parry

unless its melees

then for mlees its just miss

or well

you can see it when mouseover on it

for some reason warriors miss melees way less than us

maybe its cause bigger sworrd

who knows

[frank finch]

wait am i bugging

some of those are not a little

random log from my raid fury

[vivid vessel]

Well this guy was probably hard inting

What boss

[frank finch]

random anseruk

[vivid vessel]

I see

Well that's a lot of parry

Tbf on ansurek you didn't have much freedom to where you were so

Makes a bit of sense

[frank finch]

what boss woul;d u look at

i picked that 1 cz its recent ppl still buy mounts from that

[vivid vessel]

No idea

I mean you remove parry from this log he still only gain like

1/2% damage

But this is kinda excessive thi

[frank finch]

2 % is alot lol

[vivid vessel]

Don't think I ever seen that

[vivid vessel]

I mean

You buff war by 2% does it change anything lol

Id you mean for trickster vale

Value

Sure

Look at mugzee

[frank finch]

for a hidden raid buff thats alot

well i cant check any other boss for me cuz i play trickster everywhere else

[vivid vessel]

well dont check for you

[frank finch]

gotta check other random logs

[vivid vessel]

but no one play trickster on mug

so

[frank finch]

y

[vivid vessel]

altough you are often behind on mug

[frank finch]

i mean i check a couple

it seems like

every meele gets parried 3-6 times sometimes on big hits

wouldnt be surprised if its like a 1 % overall raid dps buff

[vivid vessel]

maybe

[frank finch]

esp the lower in rank u go

[vivid vessel]

i think it will depends a lot on the boss

idont have any real bad ones in mind rn

[desert tendon]

You d be surprised they do the same stuff as on life

[civic zephyr]

If you get real unluck ur infront of sprocket a lot

[vivid vessel]

seems like sprocket doesnt parry tho

[civic zephyr]

Oh that could be the case

Sub is trickster only so i never checked

Altho find weakness is ass on that boss

And OaB I imagine

[polar niche]

finally

i finish

cb 13

[reef forge]

do the orbs first pull in rookery just 1 hit you out of killspree

like i'm still inside it and dying

[vapid hamlet]

!offhand

[hybrid crown]

!oh

[ornate heath]

A dagger offhand is technically like 0.2% better than a slow weapon because it generates more Instant Poison procs. That is the only difference, Fatal Flourish proc rate is normalized to be unaffected by the change in attack speed. Note that item level or stats will matter more than this quirk, or you can simply use a slow weapon anyway for transmog.

[vapid hamlet]

ty

[hybrid crown]

The orbs go out pretty predictably within the first few seconds of that pull

You can KS like right as you see them and it'll be over before they come back I think

[vivid vessel]

not outlaw tho

not outlaw

[desert tendon]

Why rogue

Lmao

[vivid vessel]

who tf knows

[red zinc]

nephews think they are wox

[proven ocean]

did the rogue join

a sub

rogue

or sin

cuz sub is bad for the grp there if no one has slow

[desert tendon]

Yea

Idk rogue is not bad in ML

But rogue is not particulary good there either

And i hope its not à sub without sham

[silver mica]

wow what a throwback to bfa days

when shroud skips actually mattered

maybe they're reliving nostalgia

[red zinc]

lets give every mob invis sight

[desert tendon]

There are no shroud relevant here

[stray ginkgo]

Now its mindsooth this mindsooth that. Priests can mindsooth this

[silver mica]

idk if shroud's been relevant since like

s2 SL

[red zinc]

only reason they're giving everything invis sight is so priests cant mind soothe it

not even because of rogue

so boring

[desert tendon]

Also dark times

Imagine u want à rogue

But u dont Take tomelvis

Kinda whack

It s like if in sl u wanted à rogue But declined ram

Makes no sens

https://youtu.be/hpfpAxdE2o0?si=CssHF5eDTxpq2syt

Target cap is the New trend

[sullen wyvern]

PI still doesn't really do much on outlaw, does it?

[glass mortar]

barely more then on tanks

[vagrant elk]

does anyone know when the optimal time to use junkmasters mega magnet 🙂

[glass mortar]

actually noticably less then some tanks

[glass mortar]

dont let it overcap stacks

otherwise it doesnt matter

[vagrant elk]

so jsut full stacks? no cheese strat during subterfuge or anything

[glass mortar]

it doesnt scale with anything but stacks

[sullen wyvern]

Was doing rok 12 yesterday and disc was PIng me, told him to PI someone else but still was using it on me

[glass mortar]

u can use it anytime before 30 or at 30 just dont let it overcap and waste stacks

and its fine

[vagrant elk]

only reason i asked i previously did some research and DH are popping during a crit increased window might not be an intentional interaction though

thankyou very much homie

[glass mortar]

u dont have any crit increased windows

i mean make sure BtE buff is up when u use it

but that should be up the entire fight anyway

[honest sparrow]

there is a thing i noticed that if priest don't target one and let the blizzard rng decide we nearly always get it maybe because we have always a "cd" running or w/e the reason is

[sullen wyvern]

Maybe pacemaker if you wanna extra cheese it

[glass mortar]

yes AR is flagged as our CD

so if a priest is yoloing PI itll tend to go on u

cause ur always "in" ur cds

and be utterly wasted

[sullen wyvern]

I think it was cuz the other 2 dps were below me by a lot

[glass mortar]

well PI has auto targeting now if u dont bother to macro it

and it tries to go on a target in their major cds iirc

using the aug logic

[honest sparrow]

yea if our priest dont change his macro back when we raid it always goes on me as outlaw which is always funny

[severe charm]

Did they stealth nerf mug'zee trinket? It seemed to be doing alot more before the weekend.

[vivid vessel]

really?

is that why im always getting pied

i think our priest in raid always fuck up his pi

im legit getting pied on cd

oh wcl down

[glass mortar]

ya

like if u cast it with no other target

pretty sure it uses aug logic now

[honest sparrow]

Yea they changed that not to long ago. And we are not only nearly always in cds but also are nearly instant in it while other classes need some globals bevore they can go into cds so we get it on pull pretty much always

[crude flower]

I'm p sure it's just cause he started playing a target capped class

Plus being capped at 5 is infinitly worse than being capped at 8

[proven ocean]

lots of good shrouds this season

saves some time

here and there

[desert tendon]

There are somes

Not in ml

Not with à vdh

[honest sparrow]

He said that thats the reason. That he got a such a big opinion on it because he plays now a target capped class

[proven ocean]

ML u can skip the entire mines area

with shroud

xd

[vivid vessel]

ok but isnt ww soft capped

[desert tendon]

Hardcapped to 5 on some

I think

[honest sparrow]

yea both some softcapped and some stuff hardcapped

[vivid vessel]

wcl is down rn unfortunately so i cant check

i bet it does more damage than outlaw on big packs tho

and not because coodlowns

[desert tendon]

It does more yea

Indeed

Outlaw is just probablu the worst spec in the game in 1st brew pulls

Period

If that what we mean

[olive flax]

honestly that whole dungeon is a rough outlaw dungeon

[shell fossil]

motherlode gives me problems sometimes

[desert tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1330259961690718369/1363814225285349387/image.png?ex=68076679&is=680614f9&hm=d578a06abfdc6e37a64f9a8afdd5361b5e93de03d948bf780d93e97004806d64&

btw

this made my day

imagine paying 82m gold to get hof but u actually dont get it

[proven ocean]

wdym 82m

lockouts dont go for 82m

do they?

[red zinc]

this is the perfect season to ban boosting man

its going too far now

[desert tendon]

1st story that went public was 82m

[proven ocean]

well

if it was few weeks ago

then sure

[desert tendon]

last week i think

question mark

[proven ocean]

82m gold for 1 guild to get HoF?

instantly?

by just skipping to gallywix?

[desert tendon]

yea something in these lines

[proven ocean]

thats crazy

[red zinc]

i imagine it has to do with boosting as well not just lockouts right

[desert tendon]

was by a guild progress sprocket

if i remember well

[proven ocean]

sprocket

LOL

no way

[desert tendon]

i mean

[proven ocean]

they're skipping 3 bosses

[olive flax]

what is the point of boosting to CE? Isn't mythic raiding like the pinnicle of content in WoW? Why skip it all

[proven ocean]

thats insane

[desert tendon]

gally is easier than prog sproc / oab / mug

[proven ocean]

82m gold is quite good tho cuz

the guild selling the lockout

wont

[red zinc]

whats the point of buying an m+ title

[proven ocean]

get

a week

of raiding

[desert tendon]

it s probably same as sprocket now i think about it

[proven ocean]

or well

they will

but

i guess

idk

[desert tendon]

nah they dont

[honest sparrow]

they dont get to kill gallywix thats it or am i wrong?

[desert tendon]

you lock 20 characters

[red zinc]

peoples' lives are so insignificant that they need the validation from a wow achievement to feel good about themselves

[proven ocean]

ye

[desert tendon]

by selling a lockout

[proven ocean]

but each player

gets

4m

gold

lol

thats crazy

[desert tendon]

u think so?

I m pretty sure it s just 82m in the guild bank

and the gm is happi

[vivid vessel]

i mean zeross

[proven ocean]

nah theres no way they put all gold to gbank

no guild does that

cuz

[vivid vessel]

no one cares about rekilling gally even

[proven ocean]

ppl will leave

[proven ocean]

?

[vivid vessel]

you just do your reclear and sell the lockout

[desert tendon]

zero how can u be chitchating here

[vivid vessel]

very worth for everyone

[proven ocean]

they didnt kill gally for 1 week + u cant kill any boss the week after

[vivid vessel]

its just one random boss

[proven ocean]

what are u talking about

[desert tendon]

but also be doing 19 priory on tr

wtf wtf wtf

[vivid vessel]

wdym

why couldnt you the week after

[proven ocean]

the lockout becomes extended

[vivid vessel]

well no

[proven ocean]

but wouldnt it be extended

for 1 person

[desert tendon]

no

[proven ocean]

im sure it does

no?

[vivid vessel]

you reclear day 1 and sell it for the rest of the week

[desert tendon]

no

[honest sparrow]

you just use a fresh lockout next week

[vivid vessel]

next week is fresh

[proven ocean]

ye

thats what i mean

[vivid vessel]

ye so

whats the issue

you just lose one boss

[proven ocean]

they dont lose anything

82m

[vivid vessel]

ye

[proven ocean]

they prob lied

to the other guild

"we dont raid for 1 more week so u have to pay 100m"

and

they lowered it to 82m

xdd

and the buyer prob is an ethereal trader in wow market or someshit

and can buy all ur life in wow

cuz they have billions

of golds

in wow

not millions

[vivid vessel]

you think 81 m is too much ?

[proven ocean]

xdd

not if ur rich

[vivid vessel]

i think its a good price lol

[proven ocean]

82m for 1 boss is quite alot

[red zinc]

at least m+ keys before were decently expensive for title range so that only turbo losers bought them

[proven ocean]

even echo would do it

like

[red zinc]

now they cost piss

[proven ocean]

any time of the day

[vivid vessel]

its not 1 boss

its hof

[proven ocean]

even half the price

they'd take it

well

they couldve bugged the raid

and skipped to mugzee

with that bug few weeks back

if u remmeber

[vivid vessel]

well thats illegal

buying a lockout isnt

[proven ocean]

they cant detect it

idk what ur saying

cuz

its free

[desert tendon]

82m to get hof + unlock ALL the items in vault

[proven ocean]

they cant detect such things

[desert tendon]

seems correct to me

to be honest

[proven ocean]

ye

[desert tendon]

• skip oab / mug prog

[vivid vessel]

i mean its prolly on the low even

could sell it for more ng l

[proven ocean]

ye

sure

cuz

[vivid vessel]

wasnt like

[proven ocean]

the guild will skip a whole week

of no gallywix

[vivid vessel]

a admi last boss boost

[proven ocean]

thats alot

[vivid vessel]

with the mount

[vivid vessel]

almost 20 mil

[desert tendon]

1st priory pull

devoker really needs a buff

i think

[glass mortar]

we do a lil gulfing

[gaunt phoenix]

gulf

[honest sparrow]

its 20 mil rn yes for 1 player with the mount

[proven ocean]

20m is cheap wtf

even i can buy one rn

[vivid vessel]

ye

so like

81mil

for a lockout ?

i would say thats not much at all ng l

[proven ocean]

its prob way cheaper if u contact a guild btw

[red zinc]

i mean you're only paying for mugzee skip honestly

[proven ocean]

like

im sure

u can

find

for 10m

not 20

[red zinc]

no way that boss kill is worth 20m

[vivid vessel]

mostly the mount

[proven ocean]

communities raise prices alot

so if u contact a guild

its gg

cuz

gally drops 3 mounts

[red zinc]

advertiser 35% cut pogchamp

[proven ocean]

its legit

way easier

than before

so mount prices

arent that crazy now

[red zinc]

i mean surely i can just buy mount next season for less than a mil

[proven ocean]

3 weeks and half the raid has the mount

3 kills

xdd

[vivid vessel]

maybe

[honest sparrow]

On mystic its normaly way less cut for advertisers if i recall it correct

[proven ocean]

nah

less than a mill is definitely not true

[red zinc]

when everyone has an 18% dps boost and 40 moore ilvls?

[proven ocean]

sure u can get it for free by pugging it but

buying the mount

wont be

[vivid vessel]

you are also bying aotc

[proven ocean]

less than a mill

[vivid vessel]

or whatever the name is

[proven ocean]

no u arent

cutting edge is available this tier only

[vivid vessel]

yes

i meant for the 20mil

rn

[proven ocean]

well early cutting edge is crazy price yes

[honest sparrow]

queen is still over 2 mill but yea lot less then 20mio

[desert tendon]

20 000k is

20m right?

[honest sparrow]

yes

[vivid vessel]

you are buying a mount + ce + all loots unlocked

[desert tendon]

people cant write 20 kk

so i understand better

smh

[honest sparrow]

think its to have the format the same for all prices

[proven ocean]

no u arent

i dont think u can buy all loot

with 20m

[honest sparrow]

You calso get the famed title or?

[proven ocean]

its prob a different price

[red zinc]

when it gets to a billion

[proven ocean]

ah

wtf

[vivid vessel]

wtf

[proven ocean]

well thats something crazy

[vivid vessel]

word appeared !

i swear it wasnt there the first time i read it !

[proven ocean]

?

[gaunt phoenix]

i love loots

[proven ocean]

u ok

i love boots

[gaunt phoenix]

Where is oblivion

[honest sparrow]

checks out you always striked me like a feet person

[gaunt phoenix]

idc about wow today

[desert tendon]

billions would be 20 kkk right?

[jolly geyser]

in 2.5h

[red zinc]

[proven ocean]

u mean the server?

[shell fossil]

[gaunt phoenix]

no

[red zinc]

alder scrolls oblivion

[gaunt phoenix]

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered

[shell fossil]

it's such a good game for scrubs like myself

[covert kestrel]

throwback to the guy who came into the subtlety channel bragging about being #1 sub rogue last season (and bought a boost) and zac nearly punched him thru the screen lmao

[red zinc]

but like

current title range keys cost 500k

its nothing

of course the keys will go up but doubt the price for whatever keys put you in range will change much

[shell fossil]

aw i flubbed it, also idk a new doom episode with the new doom game

[desert tendon]

dude people judge me for that cuz i never played skyrim

but i ve more than 500h in daggerfall

whatcha gunna du

[covert kestrel]

i mean just more the sociopathic behavior to buy a boost and then brag about what that bought key brings you... like jfc

[round jasper]

hey guys how is outlaw performing atm in raids and m+? Wanna play my rogue but not a huge fan of asa

[gaunt phoenix]

good enough

usually

[covert kestrel]

13 and below and first 4 bosses of mythic:
everything above that

[olive flax]

if you can play both KIR and HO/trickster builds; outlaw can perform well on every boss

but imo, its worth it to learn sin as well, sometimes the 90+ apms gets a bit tiring - especially when you get some bad rng a few pulls in a row

[honest sparrow]

I also still dont know if i find m+ title boosts worse then for example ce boosts. You dont really rob other players if you also get ce but the title spots are limited

[fluid meadow]

spec m+ title when?

[shell fossil]

does anyone have that cancel/recast snd macro to proc rb?

[gaunt phoenix]

/cancelaura snd /cast snd?

[shell fossil]

yeah that one

[desert tendon]

otulaw is op wtf wtf

[proven ocean]

50m dmg

[vivid vessel]

one bte

[proven ocean]

my guy linked a 11 second fight

and

less dps than every spec

in the game

[gaunt phoenix]

wanki

[desert tendon]

i know that was the joke zero

[proven ocean]

i know that was the joke censi

[desert tendon]

yes the joke you know that was was indeed a joke

[proven ocean]

why does jpc have a big head

nvm thats ur emote being big

[desert tendon]

get jpced bozo

[fluid iron]

my guild was the creator of that emote

RIP colour 2025

[desert tendon]

why is crims a vdh main now?

[vivid vessel]

guild ded?

[desert tendon]

wtf stealthi

ya guys gone?

[fluid iron]

yeh

[proven ocean]

i guess they lost their colors

gg

[vivid vessel]

why

[fluid iron]

GM quit, nobody wanted to pick up the mantle

[vivid vessel]

classic

[desert tendon]

stealthi come EU

we ll take care of you

[fluid iron]

iam eu?

[proven ocean]

stealthi was too bad at the game and they couldnt replace him, they couldnt progress past 4 boss so badly that they just were forced to be bankrupt and disband the guild immediately

[desert tendon]

oh yea true

u already eu

[proven ocean]

@fluid iron

waiot

ur EU now?

that means

i can dps race stealthi

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG

[fluid iron]

ive always played on EU

[desert tendon]

yea he s from

denmark?

[proven ocean]

THAT MEANS I CAN DO IT EVERYDAY

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG

[desert tendon]

i dont even remember the dude speak 12 languages

all i remember

[proven ocean]

@desert tendon

[glass mortar]

CE boosts r totally whatever who cares

[proven ocean]

everytime i queue up to his key

he declined me then asks, u wanna play?

u actually wanted to play?

[desert tendon]

yo

[proven ocean]

??

[desert tendon]

u two

[vivid vessel]

??

[desert tendon]

wanna play triple rogue a bit?

for fun

[glass mortar]

oh my discord just hasnt loaded for like 30 minutes good 2 see

[proven ocean]

this guy

[fluid iron]

half yes

[proven ocean]

hes half chinese

or was it japanese

stealthi

?

[fluid iron]

neither

[proven ocean]

what

[vivid vessel]

not with you

[proven ocean]

was it korea

[fluid iron]

yes

[desert tendon]

????????????????

[vivid vessel]

??

[desert tendon]

?????????????????????????????

[proven ocean]

oh

based zac

no cap

[desert tendon]

who cares about your bunny ear

u ugly anyway

no wonder noone wanna play with u

[vivid vessel]

wtf

[desert tendon]

no cap on the cap

[shell fossil]

saw magic rooster egg mount yesterday

prly just tcg pull and not 3000 cola note dollars

[cinder hawk]

Hello, I’m trying to play outlaw but killing spree is killing me instead of enemy abilities. I see it happen and start laughing internally but nothing i can do. Is there a cancel macro that we can use ? I have tried ./cancelaura killing spree and the id but this doesn’t seem to work.

[proven ocean]

these mounts are better

[gaunt phoenix]

you can't cancel it

best you can do is send KS at low combo points if you deem it necessary

e.g. DFC 3rd boss you have to

[cinder hawk]

Thank you !

[eager radish]

waiting when they rework ks like blade dance

[vivid vessel]

ok but

outlaw op or

[red zinc]

doctored footage

[vivid vessel]

no!

[rotund zodiac]

what's the secret here

[vivid vessel]

how big is 6 yard

[rotund zodiac]

6 yard?

[vivid vessel]

in regard to thse you know

[agile helm]

is it possible to run a sim at 35% on the boss and add the fact that you have 20 stacks of kezan in the simc input?

[rotund zodiac]

I hate that add

I'm scared to KS

[glass mortar]

xd

me when my tank decides to include 2 of those packs in his route

and not move off the mines

guess i wont aoe 🤷

[vivid vessel]

ye but

im just wondering if i can ks

cause i still dont understand

like is it damage to me

or am i killing my people

[glass mortar]

it can kill people

generally people wont be within 6 yards of the mines

6 yards is fairly close

and they are... mines

so ur dps players r likely gunna have moved away from em

[vivid vessel]

how much is 6 yard

thats like melee range or

[covert kestrel]

5.4864 meter

[vivid vessel]

is it litteralyt the circle

or

[glass mortar]

bigger then that i think

[vivid vessel]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxS4gpY9xJZsPQQcjBRX6M4rtLfgYP1Z1h?si=XMsij0CGm-YuRS-X

[gaunt phoenix]

override.precombat_state=buff.eye_of_kezan.stack=20

[vivid vessel]

@glass mortar

even when i watch in slow i cant understand whats happening anyway

waht a shit ability

[glass mortar]

wdym

[agile helm]

thanks and where exactly am I supposed to add this to the sim?

[glass mortar]

u blew up a mine

and killed ur monk

good job bozo

[vivid vessel]

so 6 yard is big ?

i cant see shit bro

[glass mortar]

bigger then those aoes

idk how to describe it

[vivid vessel]

would do it again

[gaunt phoenix]

somewhere after the rogue=...

so if you are using top gear, then expert mode footer

[gaunt phoenix]

are you using top gear or advanced sim?

[agile helm]

Advanced

my bad

[gaunt phoenix]

just stick it after your gear

[agile helm]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pg6FZZYQn5fXQ7Q6k7wji7

i think it worked but i can't see the buff it's normal ?

[rotund zodiac]

guys, sign up. NA server

[gaunt phoenix]

it worked because the wrath of kezan proc is working at time 0

[agile helm]

it's working thanks bro

[covert kestrel]

this feels very ryukage coded

[rotund zodiac]

[covert kestrel]

[vale python]

!log

[astral glen]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[desert tendon]

also zac

these mines doesnt have a good hitbox

it s bigger than shown

ks in this packs sounds so bad

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel

[vivid vessel]

thing is

me hitting them doesnt concern me much

[fluid meadow]

funny how position or target can be out of range during ks meanwhile starting from 1 yr from main target and dummies are so stacked, how common is this thing?

[vivid vessel]

it does 0 damage

[proven ocean]

lol

[vivid vessel]

its more about spreading onto friedns

[proven ocean]

look

i did 24m dps 1st pull floodgates on this build

no subterfuge no master assassin

[vivid vessel]

ok good

i do 11 mil on a good day

[proven ocean]

on par with the other UDK with this shit ass build

[desert tendon]

with no MA

kinda crazy

lmao zeross

i turned on zerocool stream

[proven ocean]

nah

i cba with zerocool

cooked builds

[desert tendon]

apparently there is an addon that auto spam report people ignored

[proven ocean]

ye

there is

crims got 7 day silenced

noggiee

and many others