outlaw

[vivid vessel]

ye

[proven ocean]

is good

[runic bough]

Dont care about other stats

[vivid vessel]

thats what i mean

[proven ocean]

i like

[vivid vessel]

the sounds in the movie

are very cool

[proven ocean]

zac

where do i wathch

[runic bough]

cuz secondary stats are also broken on outlaw

[proven ocean]

it

[runic bough]

so

[proven ocean]

?

[runic bough]

vers is the only stat

[vivid vessel]

i sent you the website im using rn

[novel timber]

share sauce

[proven ocean]

zac

crazy how

i didnt push in 2 weeks

pugs are so bad

or?

[vivid vessel]

pugs are stuck i think

[proven ocean]

ye

u legit cannot time

[vivid vessel]

i did my 16s 2/3 weeks ago i think

[proven ocean]

some keys

[vivid vessel]

and

[proven ocean]

in pugs

[vivid vessel]

no one is doing 17 stills

[stuck sparrow]

tier helm and gloves are both really good

[stuck sparrow]

you need haste

[vivid vessel]

i tought if i waited a bit

[proven ocean]

i swear zac

like

if we played

[vivid vessel]

people would start playing

[proven ocean]

we'd get

[vivid vessel]

but they arent

[proven ocean]

resil 18

not even close

like

its so free

xd

[vivid vessel]

we should play together one season ross

when rogue is good maybe

one day we get double outlaw meta back

[proven ocean]

idk maybe

[proven ocean]

next expansion

[runic bough]

only til the haste tax but thats all from jewelry

gear stats can be heavy vers

[proven ocean]

zac

guess what

i think

[latent oak]

ya but doesnt matter since tier bonus is more important than stats

[proven ocean]

sub

is gonna be crazy

in

next expac

cuz i feel like

they buffed it's raw dmg alot

nah nvm

they'll just end up tuning it down

fuck blizzard

[desert tendon]

yea

[vivid vessel]

[desert tendon]

imagine a season

where all 3 rogue specs shines

[stuck sparrow]

yeah just get two big haste rings

[desert tendon]

and can be played at top level

like mage rn

[proven ocean]

it would be far too op btw

for it to be like that

[runic bough]

which makes all the tier gear stats suck

[proven ocean]

because

most rogues cant do good dmg

and

for it to be

META META

it has to be

good for noobs

for it to be good

[desert tendon]

idk zero

if you make rogue deal 20% more damage than anyone else in the game

trust me

[stuck sparrow]

Idk you’re coping so much

[proven ocean]

ah btw

censi

[desert tendon]

make poison bomb proc do as much as blood is life proc

[proven ocean]

u remmeber last time

[desert tendon]

gg

[stuck sparrow]

outlaw has alot more issues than the tier legs having bad stats

[proven ocean]

we were in

rogue area

secret hide out

[desert tendon]

ayee

[proven ocean]

when i told u i'll signup for some weird shit

[desert tendon]

yea

[proven ocean]

im in

[desert tendon]

good

[runic bough]

all of the tier gear

lol

[stuck sparrow]

what

helm is good

[runic bough]

none of it is heavy vers

[stuck sparrow]

gloves are good

[runic bough]

your on crack

blizzard coping

[stuck sparrow]

look at the helm

[runic bough]

they brain wash you too much bro

[desert tendon]

zero

[desert tendon]

i just did my first workshop since the nerf things

as arcane

[runic bough]

thats the only one with heavy vers

[desert tendon]

i pressed touch of magi

2s before having to hide

[latent oak]

"none of it is heavy vers"

[latent oak]

tier stats being bad doesnt matter tho since thats not why u equip them

[stuck sparrow]

gloves are decent anyway

heavy haste

maybe not if you’re “ill try kir one day” and never do

[runic bough]

not tier

gloves are no vers

at all

wasted slot

[stuck sparrow]

They have haste

you need at least 20

[stuck sparrow]

This is some wowhead commenter level coping about how much secondaries matter rn from ryu

[latent oak]

we are getting baited repeatedly

he's just the bait master

[runic bough]

Everything will be okay, i am here now.

[wintry solar]

How's your rogue going Ryu

[hollow portal]

zeross, a question. In a physical group for Assa, would it be better to bring a shaman or a hunter? The monk and the warrior are already there.

[runic bough]

got a few gears from normal raid just now

8 sparks

from last night

[stuck sparrow]

hunter buff sucks

also delves are better for gear than normal

[runic bough]

i can craft 4 gears, just need the gilded

[glass mortar]

u cant turn crafted into tier

it has to be a natty item

[latent oak]

he's a tier denier

[wintry solar]

He's forgoing KS

[glass mortar]

ks is only related to tier in that tier makes it a super strong build

tier is still a massive massive gain for all non ks builds

[runic bough]

im going to sim GS+GSW

[stuck sparrow]

but the vers

[runic bough]

and HH for single target

[fathom bramble]

the tierset is about what you should expect for stats

[glass mortar]

HH over which

gsw?

[fathom bramble]

there's 4 stats in the game so only 1 stat is going to have 2 tier items that have it as the majority

and each stat should only be on 2/3 tier pieces

[runic bough]

all of them

together

[fathom bramble]

yeah this time 3 have mastery, and it sucks

but it's not like it's out of the ordinary

now it would be ridiculous if 4 had mastery or if only 1 had vers

[proven ocean]

sin u dont rly need raid buffs that much

get the better player imo

shaman is good tho

[stuck sparrow]

tbf mastery is good

for 2/3 specs

[latent oak]

crit is decent for all 3 aswell right

[glass mortar]

crits kinda meh now a day tbh

tier set increased average uptime on RP

its just vers

xd

[latent oak]

i think vers crit wrists were simming higher for me than pure vers wrists

but havent done it in a while

[runic bough]

i got 19% haste now from gear

im gonna test single target builds

[glass mortar]

idk vers always sims higher for me. as much vers with enough haste as possible, my thing barely wants me taking any crit on gear

[wintry solar]

Ace is back baby

[fathom bramble]

Well crit is worth a lot less past 20%(10% for trickster)

[glass mortar]

trickster did more lowering to it then tier yea

[fathom bramble]

If you are simming fatebound I could see crit/vers winning or if you have like no crit on your gear

And then we hit the haste cap quite easily now

So we kind of have no good stats(again)

[glass mortar]

🙂

we go back to 40% vers s3

dw

[fathom bramble]

Even our vers is even technically marginally worse than it is for everyone else

[latent oak]

hitting 50% in s4 was dirty

zorthas was showing stat weights of ennhance vs outlaw the otherday

[glass mortar]

when ur best secondary is vers at its third DR when its usually every spec in the games worse secondary until they are DRing everything

☠️ brothers we scale with nothing

[latent oak]

and enhances worst stat was better than outlaws best xd

[glass mortar]

its ok brute force damage

[proven ocean]

GUYS

PLZ

HELP

I CANT

WITH THIS GUY

IN DM'S

[fathom bramble]

At least we get to be tanky

Until ks kills you at least

[glass mortar]

i mean as long as ur tuned well its free real estate

i just cant fathom blizz thinking its good design

for a spec to go that far into vers

[twilit nest]

zeross ill never forgive you for not sharing the sauce

[fathom bramble]

The problem is that when all your secondaries are bad you end up needing a buff every single new tier

And if blizz is slow on it you can find yourself at old ww/outlaw status

[vivid vessel]

you mean

[fathom bramble]

Where your just bad every tier

[vivid vessel]

every mid tier

i mean im sorry but

[glass mortar]

WW turned into the turbochad gigascaler

[vivid vessel]

im done

listening to the

[glass mortar]

crit and vers r still good

mastery is absurd

[vivid vessel]

"scaling doesnt exist"

take

[glass mortar]

haste is uber good

[vivid vessel]

cause its a lie ! !

[fathom bramble]

Yeah

[vivid vessel]

my spec get outscalled so hard every tier

im not crazy

am i crazy

[fathom bramble]

Scaling as we knew it long ago is fixed by the attackpower/spellpower reworks

[glass mortar]

its hard because part of outlaw getting outscaling is just fight durations cutting down by 30% over farm

u dont get better as fights get shorter

ur variance just gets higher

[fathom bramble]

And some people still think it fixed all scaling issues

[glass mortar]

u have less time to get ur 5 buffs

to average out ur damage

but all the cd specs go higher

[desert tendon]

zac just talking french

nothing weird zero

[runic bough]

ok so

im going to do

a bunch of no tier sims

lets see

im at 19% haste

i can sim HO vs KIR vs my test builds

[fathom bramble]

idk it's a bit hard to actually measure how much the scaling is putting you down vs. better routes or faster kill times in raid

they only thing we can say for sure is that having bad scaling is nearly always a weakness when it comes to throughput

especially when lust is bad for your character

[vivid vessel]

ye idk

i guess its just key level going up

maybe not scaling

idk

eh

[main beacon]

didn't know you played sub bro

[vivid vessel]

why outlaw always good first hc week tho

wahts up with that

[fathom bramble]

well it's both to varying extents

[tight kernel]

I understand that HO sims higher, but are people progging with KS or is losing .6% dps safer to go FB KIR?

[fathom bramble]

when other specs are getting more dps from 20 ilvls than you are

and everyone goes up 20 ilvls

[fathom bramble]

an issue is that many bosses have adds that massively favor trickster

so it's more than just a 0.6% loss

anytime an add is up nearby you lose ST on fatebound, and trickster gains much more cleave than fatebound has as well

[tight kernel]

Ah, but overall its okay to hold KS for a mech? I was just under the impresion if Im holding KS so much might as well go KIR for the safer pick. I wasnt educated enough to understand that Trickers favors adds

[fathom bramble]

for the most part you don't need to hold KS by so much that it's worse than fatebound

it's only on the pure ST bosses that fatebound can be preferable

or places where KS is simply uncastable like mythic sprocketmonger

[tight kernel]

so Sprocket

[glass mortar]

the difference in aoe is just so massive its worth trying to force kspree

its very sad state tbh

fatebound is tragic in anything where ur doing BF damage

and worse, it loses prio damage whenever its in aoe

[fathom bramble]

Also mugzee bombs count as nearby enemies

[glass mortar]

which is usually a strength of outlaw

[fathom bramble]

And ruin fatebound

[glass mortar]

:))

i really

dont like PC btw

[frail veldt]

I think sprocket and couldron

[twilit nest]

what type of ST damage are you guys getting out of the trickster HO build?

[glass mortar]

it doesnt feel nice that its this aoe talent tuned so high u feel like u need to take it in most dungeons, but u are forced to give up 8t and 1t damage to do it

[frail veldt]

Are prob the best fatebound fights

[frail veldt]

What do you mean?

[glass mortar]

ur making urself weaker at the pulls ur the worst at and lowering ur ST power

so u can gain overall

it just feels bad

[tight kernel]

I guess, there's a small time where you are cleaving bosses. What about monkey? I know it spawns add would FB be affected by those immune adds?

[frail veldt]

Probably tbh

Knowing blizzards coding

[twilit nest]

how much damage

[fathom bramble]

I forgot about those

They definitely fuck up fatebound

[frail veldt]

You can sim yourself to see how much damage you would do

[tight kernel]

So Sprocket is really the only safe fight to play FB if you wanted to lol

[runic bough]

ok guys

[tight kernel]

Well Im glad I asked so I can stop griefing my guild lol

[frail veldt]

People who've played enough outlaw will hit their sim numbers in st on easy fights

[fathom bramble]

Yeah and ks on sprocket is free on cd

[runic bough]

anymore combinations???

[fathom bramble]

So whats even the point

Sprocket heroic at least

On myth ks is banned

[runic bough]

lets see

[frail veldt]

I mean KS is free on most heroic fights

[wintry solar]

No crack is crazy

I'm #1 crack hater but I'll admit that's too far

[runic bough]

its just for science

[tight kernel]

yeah only talking mythic wise

[wintry solar]

Oh in that case you should be gtg

[latent oak]

cauldron fine with ks no?

guess small annoyance at clash phase not being able to flurry while on the opposite side of the boss temporarily

[frail veldt]

Eh kind of

The beam from dino

Is insta drag

Death

[fathom bramble]

baiting something wrongly can be kind of bad

and you have to hold KS briefly for beam as well

[frail veldt]

Yeah that too

It's mostly free

But you have to think a bit

[latent oak]

ya

[fathom bramble]

but if the monkey images count as nearby enemies than fatebound loses so much

you just want trickster still

and they almost certainly count as nearby enemies since they can be attacked and targetted

as far as mythic goes it really is just sprocketmonger

but it's not like it's a preference or a cost benefit thing

it's just you can't cast KS at all

we need KS rework so bad

[frail veldt]

Then they can rework fatebound to not be dogshit

[fathom bramble]

fatebound has issues I didn't even consider until we actually had a competitive hero tree to run

this lost prio on cleave is so shitty

[latent oak]

i was genuinely on board the .5 ks rework believer train

[runic bough]

what is the best Single target build right now

KIR?

with hh

[vivid vessel]

you dont like how every other spec in the game have tree that let them gain prio ?

and we lose prio?

weird

[fathom bramble]

I swear we are just slowly losing every niche we ever had

[runic bough]

i have it added

[fathom bramble]

to watch other specs collect them

[runic bough]

These are all single target sims

[vivid vessel]

:)

no shit

remember when sub

couldnt do prio

while aoeing

remember when most specs

couldnt do that

remember in df

even in df s3

we were "king of prio"

[runic bough]

***Simming beginning.

14 builds being Calculated now!***

[fathom bramble]

I remember when outlaw was one of the only specs with prio and we even had funnel in bfa

[vivid vessel]

just cause we did st while in aoe

rmemeber when

[fathom bramble]

though sub had MUCH more funnel

[vivid vessel]

people were saying

outlaw is op

cause it does st while aoing

look at every spec in the game now

litteralyt funneling

[runic bough]

I will be KiR single target build to start the sim

[vivid vessel]

and we here

losing prio

with more targets

hard capped

[fathom bramble]

we need something absurd like what DH has

[vivid vessel]

shit at every target count

[latent oak]

dont need to look beyond rogue to see us losing niches lmao

[fathom bramble]

like 25% of all damage dealt with BF is copied back onto your main target

[latent oak]

u could call it singular focus or something!!

[cinder oxide]

i just had someone invite me to a CB specifically for prio damage and i had to stare at my screen blankly for a bit

[runic bough]

have anyone tested this to see if it works?

cuz we dont get no shield or anything

[latent oak]

u wouldnt get a shield

[main beacon]

it shows up

[fathom bramble]

it works

[main beacon]

in healing

[fathom bramble]

it absorbs a % of damage taken

[runic bough]

ok just checking

[fathom bramble]

it doesn't grant an absorb

it's also unusually bad

average of 4% mitig

and it's random

[glass mortar]

its w/e

[fathom bramble]

when hero trees were suppose to be 5% mitig on average based on what Realz said in early development

[glass mortar]

honestly its fine because its targeted at the damage type we are weakest too

its strongest vs like rot/DoT damage

we are already so strong at mitigating mechanics

[fathom bramble]

well it's still weaker than trickster 5%

[glass mortar]

its hard to give us good hero defensives

[fathom bramble]

against dot/rot

[glass mortar]

sure

both are weak i think

[fathom bramble]

but then trickster only works well on bosses so

[glass mortar]

the other fatebound one is so laughable

its like 1.5% average rng leech or something last i calculated it

[runic bough]

ok here we go

all single target builds

I did AOE last night

[fathom bramble]

it could have been almost good if it didn't get caught up in the leech nerfs

it's like they tuned it reasonably then cut it in half

[latent oak]

without tier shouldnt u have loaded dice instead of sleight of hand

[merry harness]

U know that u can make it sim combinations right?

[runic bough]

no im sim noob

RESULTS COMING SOON

CHECK BACK IN FEW MINS

[glass yew]

fatebound fan?)

[runic bough]

Trickster deaths fan?

Zac's build wins

KiR 1fh

[latent oak]

in st?

[runic bough]

yes

[latent oak]

can u link sim im genuinely interested

[runic bough]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oMvdDrHMQw9TdWMYvCaYFM

No tier
single target sim

[fathom bramble]

what's the point of simming with prehistoric gear

going to have to run it again when you have real items

[runic bough]

it doesnt matter its at the haste req

but yeah i will run it again

with s2 gear

[civic zephyr]

No tier

-doesn’t matter

[runic bough]

Tier sucks youll see

im gonna learn KiR for single target then

for now

[latent oak]

ryu the sim shows that ur current talents are top damage

[runic bough]

yes current is zac's build

[latent oak]

current has 2 points fth

[runic bough]

I mean 2 fh

yeah

regular kir single target build

[latent oak]

also i think u'd gain damage if u swapped sleight of hand to loaded dice

[runic bough]

i think I did a sim with that

maybe not for kir tho

nope didnt do that

just LD vs swift

need to also add SOH in there

[vivid vessel]

what are you even simming here

[proven ocean]

mb bro about me saying get the better player, while it is true

[latent oak]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qVvtmto99NK6MyLBoDTUoR

[proven ocean]

definitely get the shaman

way better raid buff

for warr+monk

[vivid vessel]

and wtf is this shit my guy

what are you evne

simming dude

[proven ocean]

EFOJPIMARKGASFIOGPRMEJGRAEI

WTF

IS THAT

CUH

???????????????

[runic bough]

tests

[vivid vessel]

you really simmed 20 builds

[proven ocean]

who

is this

[vivid vessel]

and not a single one of them was correct

thats actually solid work ryuk

i love you for that

based

of you

[runic bough]

that why you check for me

[vivid vessel]

ye so

you need loaded dice

without tier

which means you drop sleight for loaded

[runic bough]

ok ok

[vivid vessel]

not 1 fth

xd

[runic bough]

but

[covert kestrel]

Ryu you're a god

[runic bough]

i was just testing all as well

[proven ocean]

nah

its ryu's build

[vivid vessel]

also main hand should be your higher ilvl

[proven ocean]

i cba

this guy

trolls 24/7

[vivid vessel]

ryu is the goat of this discord ross

dont insult him please

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-gif-4115569673926897153

[proven ocean]

vrgl is the goat

no cap

[vivid vessel]

rip virgule

[covert kestrel]

Ross just too unga bunga to know what Ryu is cooking

[runic bough]

rip virgl

[craggy barn]

ross has sin brain rot

[latent oak]

where did vrgl go

[proven ocean]

i play rogue

i main rogue

[covert kestrel]

[proven ocean]

im not an outlawer

[craggy barn]

i never said u were

[vivid vessel]

he bought a tesla i heard

[craggy barn]

im just saying u been playing too much sin

[proven ocean]

idk why ppl think

im an outlaw 1 trick

cuz

i literally never played outlaw when it wasnt meta

not once

in my life

lol

[runic bough]

zeross is meta roller we kno

[vivid vessel]

you are an outlaw one tirkc cause you type in here 24/7 ross

you are a yapper one trick maybe

big yap

[proven ocean]

that true

[runic bough]

he is one line trick rogue

[loud hazel]

wtf

[proven ocean]

maybe ppl think im an outlaw one trick cuz i TC'ed outlaw in DF or someshit

[wintry solar]

Were you simming all those builds?

[proven ocean]

outlaw

was good in DF

all of DF

except s2

[runic bough]

OOK OK im changing all builds to LD

re-sim

[vivid vessel]

ross

[proven ocean]

ac

[vivid vessel]

!ban @proven ocean

get banned noob

[proven ocean]

!ban @proven ocean

[twilit nest]

zac

[proven ocean]

typo

[twilit nest]

and zeross

[proven ocean]

!ban @vivid vessel

[twilit nest]

yall are smart dude

[vivid vessel]

david

[runic bough]

[vivid vessel]

david i bet you arent smart

[twilit nest]

how much damage are you guys doing on M+ HO TRICKSTER BUILD PLEASE

HELP

TELL ME

[vivid vessel]

you look like a uga bumga

[proven ocean]

i bet ur dumb af

you look like a uga bumga

[twilit nest]

yhea im dumb braindead

[vivid vessel]

you look like someone who walk on his own feets

[proven ocean]

wheres my reply david

[vivid vessel]

and fall

[proven ocean]

do u favor zac

?

i always knew u liked zac more

time to block you

its over david

[twilit nest]

zeross

no

dont block me

[vivid vessel]

yo david

[proven ocean]

ok i wont

[vivid vessel]

you look like a guy taht doesnt know left from right david

[twilit nest]

zeross you didnt share the bleed build single target tech also so im not friend with you

[vivid vessel]

i can see it in your eyes

[covert kestrel]

David is number 1 toxic sub rot

[proven ocean]

ah

i can share it with u david ur a certified bug abuser to share with

but

1 rule

never share it

with any soul

in this universe

because

i only told

3 ppl

in the entire world

about it

[twilit nest]

i can guarantee you that

[proven ocean]

ok?

[wintry solar]

Are you saying he's one of those people that has to do the L shape with both hands to see what's left and right?

[twilit nest]

yes

[proven ocean]

ok

[vivid vessel]

I am

[twilit nest]

i give you 2 tempered versatility pot for the secret also

[wintry solar]

Wow david

[vivid vessel]

david

calm down david

david you can send 500k

tomelvis draenoe

[frail veldt]

Send it to me

[vivid vessel]

i tell you the secret

[frail veldt]

Mewogue-sargeras

Na Chad

Need gold

[vivid vessel]

N

yo david thanks for the olds

[frail veldt]

EU? More like PEE YEW

[vivid vessel]

i apreciate it

you not getting the secret tho

get owned bozo

[wintry solar]

If yall need someone to hold yalls gold, Danivar-Tichondrius can do it.

[twilit nest]

dude im poor

[vivid vessel]

too bad for you david

no gold no secret

thats what you get david

for being a poor noob

[runic bough]

im trying to see

[wintry solar]

Yeah?

Open your eyes

Duh

[runic bough]

if imp ambush vs tight spender

not HO or KIR

i think i did a sim for those

but if not HO then that means no ambush should default to tight spender right

[wintry solar]

Right

[frail veldt]

There is no secret

All fake news

[twilit nest]

zac send pov of your keyboards

he's in shambles i bet

[frail veldt]

Why would you need imp ambush if you don't have ho...

[vivid vessel]

i actually have that set up

[runic bough]

yeah thanks for clarifying guys

[vivid vessel]

wondered if i should just turn it on

keyboard cam

[wintry solar]

Yw

[vivid vessel]

its fun

maybe i do one day

[frail veldt]

Keyboard cams go hard ngl

[runic bough]

All NON-HO builds will get tight spender also

[vivid vessel]

im just scared i forget about it and suddently its not keyboard anymore and its head

[wintry solar]

That is correct

[vivid vessel]

i would never do that tho cause im too careful about everything i do like that

and im like

actually scared about webcams

[frail veldt]

Lens cap on cam

Every time

[vivid vessel]

i unplug it

[frail veldt]

I cover that shit af

[vivid vessel]

everytime im not using it

and i still put it back

[frail veldt]

Those shitty cams are so exposed

[vivid vessel]

inside its box

cause i cannot stand

seeing it

looking at me

[frail veldt]

Inside box lolplol

That's wild

[vivid vessel]

ye

bro you know that episode of black mirror

where the guy get owned from his webcam

well he was a pedo so its different

but

ye banger black mirror episdode no cap

but im effraid of webcams

[runic bough]

yah i did sim imp ambush vs tight spender

[vivid vessel]

stop simming ryuk\

you are cooked no cap ! ! ! ! !! !

[runic bough]

thank you

[vivid vessel]

np

[runic bough]

changing SOH to LD

cancels out some of these builds

need to remove them

[wintry solar]

I take the GSW builds don't have ace?

[runic bough]

i dont think i testing no ace this time

since its either GSW or GS

always ace

or both GSW and GS

i did test no crackshot

it was at the bottom

[wintry solar]

Naturally

[runic bough]

but

[wintry solar]

Butt

[runic bough]

vigor lethality was the highest no crackshot

good to note

[royal hollow]

@vivid vessel can you give me your website for movies

[desert tendon]

yo when cam + mic streams feet reveal?

[vivid vessel]

[runic bough]

Censi have twitch?

I added all the outlaws I dont even see Censi streaming

ever

i cancelled Nessa though

[latent oak]

@proven ocean is ur assa tech just using magnet trinket in lingering

[runic bough]

she said she liked killingspree

I had to cancel my follow

then she muted me

cuz i told her she died from killingspree

[frail veldt]

Actually this was tested you can pretty much pick any 3 of the 5 for ace, CTO, gs, PC, and gsw for dslice

They all perform relatively similar

Like a couple percent

[wintry solar]

Oh he knows but he's being STUBBORN

[proven ocean]

no lol

tf is that like its 30% to a trinket that does 1%

that wont do shit

[latent oak]

how big is ur tech

without revealing it

[twilit nest]

the more you sim the less dmg you do ok @runic bough

[proven ocean]

let me

sim

it

now

i can actually sim it

1 min

[runic bough]

zeross simming guys

[wary wind]

Imagine no ace proc sound literally best part of this spec

[wintry solar]

It literally the best sound in the game

[twilit nest]

literally imported media into wow for the 1st time just to have it sound louder

[wary wind]

Wait how

[wintry solar]

Next to "zug zug" and "okie dokie"

[proven ocean]

pure st in m+ probably 3% dps

[latent oak]

tasty

[proven ocean]

sims around 3%

60k dps

[latent oak]

big cook

apl change?

[twilit nest]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[desert tendon]

zero

you re a 3%

cuh

[proven ocean]

wdym apl change

[twilit nest]

check the "ace refund sound trigger" aura page on wago, it has instructions

btw ty @vivid vessel

[twilit nest]

[latent oak]

like is it a rotation diff or a loadout diff

[proven ocean]

well

u could say rotation diff

i guess

well not reallyt

its a bug

[vivid vessel]

@desert tendon

https://youtu.be/XWWHeB-WPiM?si=ucqHy4Fa-fK6msKe&t=240

she is farming these clips

banger

but outlaw damage is illegal

ngl

imagine any other spec doing that

would be crazy

idk how its allowed for outlaw

[proven ocean]

cuz shes bad or

[vivid vessel]

cause she plays outlaw

im ngl im also farming clip

eveyr key i get a dumb ks

at least

[proven ocean]

no she has to be bad

otherwise

how would she do tank dps

but wait

thats

[vivid vessel]

i mean

[proven ocean]

every

outlaw in the game

[vivid vessel]

she is doing 6/7 mil dps

i have done that

if you dont proc you do that damage

i do between 6 mil dps

and 12 mil dps

[twilit nest]

i cant do that dps

[proven ocean]

nah i know

[twilit nest]

im ass

[proven ocean]

we also

[twilit nest]

as outlaw ofc

[proven ocean]

kicked you

for doing

6m

dps

in

ptr

any flashbacks

zac

[vivid vessel]

i remember

[twilit nest]

lol

[proven ocean]

?

[vivid vessel]

ye

[twilit nest]

LOl

[vivid vessel]

brew

i remmeber

cool key

[twilit nest]

YO DONT BULLY ZAC

[proven ocean]

we literally kicked him

cuz his dps was too low

we couldnt time the key

[twilit nest]

what were you playing zeross

[vivid vessel]

i got the same thing that happendd on live ross

[proven ocean]

it was the highest key on ptr

[vivid vessel]

like after first boss brew

[proven ocean]

i dont remmeber

[vivid vessel]

i was still at tank dps right

[proven ocean]

sin/sub

not sure

[vivid vessel]

the tank just said

[twilit nest]

ah lol

[vivid vessel]

"ouitlaw is shit"

and kicked me

[proven ocean]

classic

[twilit nest]

nice

[proven ocean]

ngl most outlaws are good

its just

outlaw

is not

good

xdd

[torpid fiber]

yeah bc no one who isn't is going to be playing the spec above 10s tbf

[proven ocean]

unless ur talking

s3 DF

s3 DF

was

like

holy shit

hardest spec in the history of wow

legit nobody played it well

except 3-4

[torpid fiber]

s3 df I'm convinced we were genuinely broken as fuck but because Aug was even more busted we avoided nerfs

[proven ocean]

well

if no aug

outlaw

would've

dominated

the shit out of s3

[torpid fiber]

Yeah 100

that's what I mean

[vivid vessel]

thats not true lol

[proven ocean]

because

even with aug

[vivid vessel]

i played s3

[proven ocean]

we did more dps

than aug comps

[vivid vessel]

you guys didnt

[proven ocean]

lol

[vivid vessel]

i was bottom dps of every key ]

[torpid fiber]

I played it I was just doing shitter keys tbf

[vivid vessel]

i think you guys only remember start of s3

till they buffed mage and sp

[proven ocean]

what are u talking about zac

[torpid fiber]

I was dominating shitter keys but obviously shitter keys etc.

[vivid vessel]

im talking about s3 ross

i was bottom dps every key

[torpid fiber]

idk I dominated shitter keys more that season than other seasons

[proven ocean]

s3 DF outlaw was by far the strongest

spec in the game

???

wdym

[vivid vessel]

you only remember the start of s3 ross

[twilit nest]

true

it was insane

[vivid vessel]

you stopped playing

[twilit nest]

i played during whole of DF S3, sub was peak and outlaw was even better

[vestal notch]

Df s3 is when fire mage and sp rised again

It wasnt s4

[twilit nest]

but i didnt play outlaw because i was too trash to play it correctly

[vestal notch]

It was mid s3

[proven ocean]

@lone crow @frigid scroll ok idk which one of u is anythng but hey, wasnt outlaw the strongest dps in the game even against spriest/mage?

also

why do u both

hve

same pfp

and same

name

like

how

the

fuck

a

m

i

supposed

to know

which one of you

is you

?????????????????????????

[twilit nest]

probably the same dude zeross

[vivid vessel]

at the start maybe ross

[twilit nest]

come on

[vivid vessel]

but no it wsnt lol

[craggy barn]

one line ross

[proven ocean]

even at the end

[twilit nest]

what

[proven ocean]

i legit

dps raced

lagaro

and

1 more good priest

[fathom bramble]

gally down with KS 🙂 @vivid vessel

[proven ocean]

i nuked them in everbloom

even tho

like

[fathom bramble]

thanks for the clips and info on what KS did on the encounter

[craggy barn]

show log

[vivid vessel]

nice gg

[twilit nest]

there's NO WAY his name is zeROSS and his real name is ROSS

NO WAY

[latent oak]

big gz

[vivid vessel]

ross you didnt do high keys in s3 tho didnt you

[frank finch]

i need those notes

[proven ocean]

zeross only

also its a ingame name

not real

name

[craggy barn]

real name

[vivid vessel]

also outlaw was very good in eb

[craggy barn]

like zac's real name is elvis

[vivid vessel]

and rise

[craggy barn]

mr tom elvis

real name leak

[twilit nest]

everbloom was insane

[proven ocean]

thaats just you being noob

[fathom bramble]

@frank finch

[twilit nest]

i miss S3 DF

[vivid vessel]

sure man

whatever you say

i played s3

[fathom bramble]

I could have done more I think

but KS is so scary in so many spots

KS rework pls

[proven ocean]

well i agree that

spriest is better

in everbloom

but

u can also get fked by rng zac

[vivid vessel]

even mage was outdamaging me lol at that time depending on keys

[fathom bramble]

4 hours and 45 minutes of total raidtime for gally lol

[proven ocean]

???????????????????????????????????

mage

[fathom bramble]

what a boss

[proven ocean]

outdpsing

you

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[twilit nest]

yhea i cant agree with you on that one zeross

[desert tendon]

LMAO

[twilit nest]

DF S3 fire mage was cracked

really depended on pull size

[desert tendon]

btw

no way

khyr invited her

[vivid vessel]

bro

[desert tendon]

must be her key

[vivid vessel]

zeross

you

why you gotta be like that

you didnt even play that season

[proven ocean]

idk man

[vivid vessel]

just trust me lol

[proven ocean]

ok ok i trust

[vivid vessel]

you know how early our outlaw keys were

or

[proven ocean]

were they actually that early

i guess true

we did stop early

[vivid vessel]

like that was months before the end of season

[desert tendon]

both of u stfu

i owned u

[twilit nest]

just pull up MDI S3 DF, fire mages were destroying everyone

[desert tendon]

in S3 df

no ap

cap

[craggy barn]

guys

[proven ocean]

oh

[craggy barn]

na queus for 13s/14s is a fucking pain

[proven ocean]

pretty sure i was r3

and

or r2

[craggy barn]

im so bored im pushing 3k on all 3 rogue now bc cant get invited

[proven ocean]

with like

full top 20-50 keys

or zac?

[vivid vessel]

idk

[proven ocean]

we were rly high

at the time we pushed

ye

pretty sure

[desert tendon]

noobs

[vivid vessel]

do you have tips

[desert tendon]

btw

zac

[vivid vessel]

i didnt do p3 yet

[proven ocean]

8 weeks @vivid vessel

for example

[vivid vessel]

for example

[proven ocean]

this key

nah wait

even

my last key

was 51 weeks ago

so

we stopped for like

over 15 weeks

how much is that

in days

[vivid vessel]

idk

[proven ocean]

lol

105

days

no way

we actually stopped for a long while