outlaw

[vivid vessel]

do 0 damage

go next pull

[sullen wyvern]

like I get completely zoned out

cant do shit

[analog fog]

Assa is 3 buttons

[sullen wyvern]

good to know

luckily I have some mastery stuff in my bags I can use

[cinder relic]

Sin takes no stats on gear as well

All stats are good for sin

As u get more stats, other stats gain more value

I've played sin in raid for 2 seasons where vers is my best stat

[gaunt phoenix]

you dont

spec design

[vivid vessel]

its the lore

!

needs to be in the game

!

[rotund zodiac]

yoo my first gally kill with my guild

[proven ocean]

sub better 1st pull

does way more

unless ur going bleed build then thats alt f4 for bosses

[covert kestrel]

yo that mage is ninja'ing your loot, gquit and flame them on the forums

[honest sparrow]

And its canon that a pirate had a maximum target range between 5-8 so everything is as it should be

[light dune]

well if ur going sin with the express purpose of swapping after first pull bleed build all teh way yeah

[rotund zodiac]

we use loot addon so we can distribute loots fairly

lmao

I secretly hate it

[late swallow]

i really don't like assassination bros

[covert kestrel]

well its all going to the mage so i dont think its working

[rotund zodiac]

that what the addon does, everyone will pass the loot except RL

[covert kestrel]

most sane assa player

[rotund zodiac]

then RL will distribute again

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/it-was-a-joke-just-a-joke-penguin-cute-im-not-joking-gif-17171068

[rotund zodiac]

xD

[late swallow]

my fav part about assassination is the valeera sanguinar goonfuel art in the spec tree

that's literally it though

[gaunt phoenix]

i cant leave this tab unattended at work cause of the threat of gaping dog ass

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/thatll-do-it-ityshl-tim-robinson-ya-id-say-thatll-do-it-gif-20373292

[late swallow]

Gaping Dog Ass would be a dope name for a crust punk band

[proven ocean]

cuh

[vital venture]

yo is there some bug that allows transmogging 1h swords onto daggers nowadays?

[covert kestrel]

its not a threat if ill do it

[covert kestrel]

yeah its called equip another 1h

[vital venture]

how did i not think about that

[late swallow]

if you mog the dreadblades onto your MH 1h, it overrides OH dagger

and just looks like you have double swords

[gaunt phoenix]

i dont think so beyond artifact weapon

[vital venture]

[late swallow]

[vivid vessel]

[covert kestrel]

[desert tendon]

zac

do we have on zeross

or not yet

[vivid vessel]

sicen

no i odnt think so

[desert tendon]

so bad

unfollowing now

[vivid vessel]

real

fuck ross

[sullen wyvern]

so assa is 3 buttons huh

lets see

[cinder relic]

Aoe is fairly "involved" but if ur just doing a swap on a first pull it's not that bad

[sullen wyvern]

I am definetly doing a swap after first pull

I am now trying to find a decent guide to learn the basics

[frail veldt]

youll prob do more damage as assa just spreading garrote/rupture than you would as outlaw

[sullen wyvern]

I have no doubts on that

[frail veldt]

they have an even "easier" assa build now too

thats just bleed focused

[sullen wyvern]

this is what Im running

is this the bleed spec you mean?

[frail veldt]

idk I dont play assa

lol

[cinder relic]

nah thats hybrid

Bleed is all the left shit

no kb

[sullen wyvern]

I guess i'll just go with this

[frail veldt]

is there a way back up after you kill first pack or do you have to use the dungeon tp?

[proven ocean]

reah[pbgik;a'dstfzjmghbapersolz;difkyjhmnaretdfzioyf;eghlkjzmns

wdym

?!?!?!?!?

[desert tendon]

no garf sit

no follow

[proven ocean]

crims got pissed off

[shell fossil]

ye that's some hybrid build

[shell fossil]

pls run iron wire over master assassin or sanguine blades idr which one sims higher

tank pulling medium packs every pull is okay for hybrid kb builds just for workshop

[sullen wyvern]

well that makes sense since I am only playing assa on that pull the nswap

I guess ill take off sanguine blades

[shell fossil]

just check the wowhead hybrid build guide and run iron wire

goat bleed build is -lightweight shiv +iron wire but if you run that you're gonna get a detonate

or iced spritzer to the face etc

[sullen wyvern]

I am just doing this for CB and WS first pulls

I am not planniong to play assa at all

I just dont wanna be useless on a 15 on those first pulls

[shell fossil]

yea if u got a lock for sums that's hilarious

[sullen wyvern]

for WS just set my hs to rustbolt

for CB I can just walk out

[shell fossil]

i hated jump scouting over walls in csgo

so you just make higher walls etc

yeah just run iron wire to decrease variance, 2 shiv charges is bleed uptime for sudden demise vs crits with master assassin

[waxen dome]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter dungeon to get Supercharger.
• ADR before key insert for the Loaded Dice buff and cp.
• DO NOT rtb again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, simillarly do not adr inside the bubble or you will lose the cps
• After the bubble drops RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF then Stealth
• Open on pack with ADR (in range with target, this will pull) into BtE.

[split lintel]

That's gotta be the most complicated pre key setup I've ever seen lol

[gaunt phoenix]

Well the loaded dice part is not relevant anymore

[shell fossil]

i roll the bones way less often than zac but the sprint cast on main for swirlies is ye

[hasty void]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[shell fossil]

3 rolls in 1st pull lmao

[pearl trout]

all that prekey setup to still lose in DPS 💀

[gaunt phoenix]

the last 2 points are what you do anyway before any pull

[shell fossil]

that many globals on rtb made me nervous last week but maybe

next string always incoming lol, overall uptime is king

[sullen wyvern]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[sullen wyvern]

I've been forgetting to add the last gcd in crackshot window WA

[gaunt phoenix]

i dont think it is necessary anymore

[sullen wyvern]

I think I've been failing to properly send as many aces as I can during crackshot cuz I prio KS

I just wanna make sure I dont do that

[vivid vessel]

you dont ks inside subt

[sullen wyvern]

exactly, that's what I am saying

[covert kestrel]

[sullen wyvern]

I am not tracking sub so sometimes I KS inside of it

assa feels so slow compared to outlaw

3 business days between gcds

[vivid vessel]

you are not tracking subt ?>

[quaint wharf]

ye you can afk and do 2x dmg

[sullen wyvern]

Iwasnt

I formatted my pc and wiped everything

and forgot to add that WA

[shell fossil]

i have 10 seconds on my 5 buff

where is the twerkalator

[keen belfry]

any arcane mages in here

[vivid vessel]

ye

hi awang

how you doing

[keen belfry]

hey cuh

[vivid vessel]

one trick arcane here

ask away

[keen belfry]

prio amirite?

me when the uhhh knight dies first in the pack

prioo

[vivid vessel]

ye

[keen belfry]

can arcane get tricks of the trade

[covert kestrel]

ye its called hold buttons

[keen belfry]

what if your highest aggro is end of your cds

[desert tendon]

i wouldnt consider iron wire at all as hybrid build tbh, it s a really big damage loss

but you do u

[sullen wyvern]

Yeah I just noticed that, thanks!

I am just hitting dornogal dummies nad doung 6mill and I am fucking up the rotation

this isnt fair

[late swallow]

[covert kestrel]

[gusty light]

guys does coup de grace depends on combo points ?

[gaunt phoenix]

You use coup at normal cp

tho there is a minor optimization to coup at low cp if you would otherwise have to press sinister strike

[cobalt mist]

huh since when did outlaw get deathstalker

[gusty light]

daim would be lit xD

[thorn river]

does that addon and macro combo for tricks still work ?

[sullen wyvern]

does zac use some kind cast SnD and cancelaura to get resets in between pulls?

[sour vault]

I used to have an addon that gave me a trigger at the best time to reroll rtb, now I did a clean and I installed this one https://wago.io/Pd53s_NPU/145 but it feels like the rolls are way worse than before, dno how the timing is exactly. I can not use my brain for it :(

[sour vault]

might also be my spec : CQQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeAAM2mZmZMjZYGDzwYMjZmxMz0yMmlZAAAAAAgtZmZYmZsALz2AAAAwMDwgZb2MzMjmZ2YWYZbajNzA ?

[vivid vessel]

why blud barfing all over his keyboard rn

[sour vault]

sorry need a better way to link my spec, wanted to be fast

[frail veldt]

The faq has info on when to roll. Can't speak for the addon but you can probably look in the weak aura to see what the logic is

Also just use one of the many specs linked here

[vivid vessel]

outlaw is so bad in workshop

i dont understand

why do people still think outlaw is good in these dungeons

its prolly the worse outlaw dungeon no cap

terrible

maybe i should play ho in here

im using deft in like

2 pulls

[frail veldt]

Would you rather play ho or play assa

[vivid vessel]

neither

assa

[frail veldt]

Lolol

[vivid vessel]

eh

idk

man

idk

mewo

thoughts on comps

where you do 20% less damage

for free

[glass mortar]

But ur gunna be so smart

And ur discs dps is going to be pog

[random stirrup]

raid buffs in m+

[frail veldt]

Bro that's my life

I've been pugging mythic raid and half the time we don't even have a war or monk

[vivid vessel]

nice

[proven ocean]

ur the only spec that isn't meta

[vivid vessel]

ty zeross

[proven ocean]

idk why u said "comps"

[vivid vessel]

appreciate it

[proven ocean]

np np

[late swallow]

give outlaw rogue find weakness

could you imagine

[frail veldt]

Wdym

You mean expose armor?

[vivid vessel]

outlaw is so useless in high keys

i cant kick

i have no idea where i am 99% of the times

you spedn 10% of your time in ks

having no idea about what is happening

waht a spec man

[proven ocean]

qwerwtyruiop[saddffghjkll;;'zbnm,.

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean thoughts?

[late swallow]

🚨🚨AWOOGA AWOOGA🚨🚨
HAMUNA HAMUNA HAMUNAAAA 😳💦
JAW DROPPED 👄💧
TONGUE ROLLING OUT LIKE A CARPET 😛👅BOI-OI-OI-OI-OING
AWOOGA AWOOGA, MAYDAY MAYDAY, I’M GOING DOWN BAD 🛬❤️‍🔥

[vivid vessel]

first packs ml

[proven ocean]

wtf

arcane

outlaw dps

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[sage lion]

KS should lasts 6 or 8 seconds ))) peak gamedesign

[vivid vessel]

ye

[proven ocean]

i guess we'll suffer with arcane fotm rerollers

for a LONG WHILE

LOL

[vivid vessel]

[proven ocean]

everyone logs in thinking they're hopeful

[vivid vessel]

im about to stop playing agian

this shit is depressing

you do 0 damage

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/boys-happy-funny-face-lol-gif-13116873

[vivid vessel]

you are perma self cced

you cant kick

[late swallow]

zac coming back to play outlaw every season

[vivid vessel]

you cant stun

[proven ocean]

its just

outlaw

[vivid vessel]

you arent even tanky

you are useless

on everything

[proven ocean]

sub is tankier than outlaw gg

2025

[vivid vessel]

you arent bringing a buff

you arent doing anything

you are litteraly getting carried

everykey

[proven ocean]

WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[vivid vessel]

cause your spec is useless

[proven ocean]

doesnt fazed make everyone immune to parry

THATS SOMETHING

[vivid vessel]

ye

parry

[desert tendon]

yea

[late swallow]

sub gives fazed too tho

[vivid vessel]

in m+

[desert tendon]

biggest raidbuff

ever

but only for rai

d

klek

[proven ocean]

rai

d

xdd

[vivid vessel]

rai

d

[desert tendon]

btw zero

[late swallow]

imagine if ross got severenced

[desert tendon]

i learnt arcane

in like 2 days

[late swallow]

and his innie cross dressed

[proven ocean]

guys

[desert tendon]

shit is not hard at all

[proven ocean]

im confused

why did gingi say

[desert tendon]

you have weakaura that tell u waht to press lmao

[proven ocean]

"we have an assa rogue that means no one can parry"

assa gives immunity to parry?

[desert tendon]

nah

[proven ocean]

thats new to me

[unborn turtle]

wait is that a thing

[desert tendon]

it s trickster olnly

gingi just boosted

he knows about hunt and mage

taht s it

[late swallow]

bro yells at people for using hekili and then says this

[vivid vessel]

why is outlaw

[proven ocean]

ye i was shocked

[vivid vessel]

target capped

[proven ocean]

when i heard it

i was like

something i dont know?!?!

[unborn turtle]

thats funny

[vivid vessel]

also why is it

that every season

outlaw is good

for 2 weeks

[frank finch]

\

[vivid vessel]

then its trash

and then

im being told

[proven ocean]

cuz

ppl

[vivid vessel]

that scaling

[proven ocean]

cant

sort

[vivid vessel]

isnt a thing

[proven ocean]

their

cds

early

on

only outlaw

can

[vivid vessel]

im getting scaled on

every tier

my spec is trash

[late swallow]

because the data analysts in blizz's tuning team are really dumb

[vivid vessel]

every tier

can i get a soft cap

i beg

im useless

[proven ocean]

blizzard is dumb af

u wont get that

[elder phoenix]

So wait

People actually play outlaw?

[late swallow]

sub best trinket this tier was like barely ahead of last tier's bis trinket

[elder phoenix]

Even without acro?

[vivid vessel]

moot

go back to sleep

[elder phoenix]

Man who would have thunk it

[proven ocean]

that was sub's biggest nerf

[vivid vessel]

this guy

legit

[proven ocean]

apart from the unnecessary pre patch nerf

[vivid vessel]

most annoying user

[proven ocean]

to sub

[late swallow]

that's what I mean

[proven ocean]

moot

dont make me moot ur ass

cuh

[late swallow]

sub only looked good weeek one and two

no one had gear

[vivid vessel]

this guy

can say one thing

[late swallow]

but sub basically had it's best trinket

[vivid vessel]

stupid

ass

[proven ocean]

[vivid vessel]

stfu dont type

[elder phoenix]

wait @vivid vessel you play outlaw without acro?

wowww i thought no one would

[vivid vessel]

you are legit useless

[elder phoenix]

just like acro

thats why it got taken out

[vivid vessel]

ye

cause outlaw works so well rn

[proven ocean]

moot

[vivid vessel]

without acro

[elder phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[proven ocean]

i bet u would be bottom dps

if we dps raced

[vivid vessel]

since acro got deleted

[desert tendon]

u dont know me

[vivid vessel]

outlaw has been

unplayabled

[elder phoenix]

I mean acro helped my dps

[vivid vessel]

in m+

btw

[desert tendon]

i think hekili is fine for most things

[elder phoenix]

So yeah obviously

[vivid vessel]

just saying

[desert tendon]

unless you wanna be top world player

[elder phoenix]

totally unplayable now without acro

right @vivid vessel ?

[desert tendon]

and arcane is super straight forward, pretty sure hekili can 100% play it

[vivid vessel]

stop pinging me

you are legit

[proven ocean]

did acro give ur balls bigger range to shoot?

or

[vivid vessel]

the most annoyuing

rh

user

legit useless

ass

go back to where you come from

bro comes in here

once a year

[elder phoenix]

I mean acro was useless

Right?

[vivid vessel]

to be an annoyance

[elder phoenix]

@vivid vessel right??

[proven ocean]

zac

[elder phoenix]

I thought it was unplayable

Idk man

[proven ocean]

block button

is rly op

biggest dps gain in discord

no cap

[elder phoenix]

biggest dps gain was acro @vivid vessel right?

[proven ocean]

no idea who ur talking to

tho

[vivid vessel]

@patent lion can you mute this stupid guy

[proven ocean]

[vivid vessel]

he talks in here once a year just to be annoying

[proven ocean]

whispyr, if anything he deserves it

[vivid vessel]

just get him off already

[proven ocean]

never seen zac more based

[elder phoenix]

wait mute me for @vivid vessel and only zac okay m8

[proven ocean]

than this

no cap

[vivid vessel]

bro entire purpose is to be annoyuing to people

[elder phoenix]

Zac why are you so angry, it's okay outlaw is till playable without acro

[proven ocean]

@patent lion can you mute this stupid guy

he talks in here once a year just to be annoying

just get him off already

[elder phoenix]

you misspelled @zac

@patent lion Man im not doing anything im just talking to my best friend @vivid vessel and acro. 🤷‍♂️

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/always-alwaysyouthree-harrypotter-rascals-hooligans-gif-21933813

[elder phoenix]

It seems like he gets too edgy at times, forgive him though ❤️ thats all that matters

[proven ocean]

❤️moot bringing up the hearts to avoid the mute ❤️

good tactic

might not save you tho

[elder phoenix]

What mute? Im just asking @vivid vessel what he thinks about losing acro. Tbh is that bad?

[proven ocean]

[elder phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/quagmire-laugh-gif-2984739617298811929

[proven ocean]

the boss is here

[elder phoenix]

but in other news, I seen outlaw is pumpin. too bad I dont play anymore

[patent lion]

!mute @elder phoenix 2d your shit stirring isn’t necessary

[pallid tinsel]

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel

[frank finch]

[proven ocean]

[vivid vessel]

ez

[gilded karma]

[honest moat]

Heyoo, one question why so many players remnant of darkness as trinket?

WoWHead does not written it up. or the Conductors Wax Whistle is only B Rank.

[vivid vessel]

its an average trinket

[hybrid crown]

It drops all the time probably

[vivid vessel]

like many others

[proven ocean]

it probably just sounds op

but it isnt

so

there u go

[vivid vessel]

wox plays it

[hybrid crown]

Ppl be farming dfc for neck cape whistle you get remnant while doing that

[vivid vessel]

so people play t

what can you do

[hybrid crown]

Ez key

Wait that screenshot ..people are doing big keys with it

[frail veldt]

Wat

[late swallow]

mistype my bad

[honest moat]

Yeer most combination in high keys on archon

[vivid vessel]

well

there is only one guy

doing high keys

as outlaw

tbf

so

[honest moat]

You mean Woxtoxic?

[vivid vessel]

y

[honest moat]

Okay he picked it as Myth Track 6/6

[proven ocean]

these websites always copy r1 players

even when they're wrong

they put bloodelf as the best rogue race

for some reason

for sub

[honest moat]

Yeer its just a statistic tool

then I checked Bloodmallet and was confused

[dawn talon]

i see races other than maghar nelf dwarf

so infrequently

lmfao

free thinkers and such

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel wanna see a funny clip

hopeful saying he likes his secret lab chair and says he isn't sponsored and a secret lab ad pops above his head

https://www.twitch.tv/hopefulx/clip/CoyPiliableSamosaKappaRoss-gnrNj2dDS2qr93Pm

ngl secret lab chairs are decent but

not worth the price at all

they are quality tho so far they're great in that term

[vivid vessel]

i mean i think gaming chairs

you just pay more

cause its "gaming"

[proven ocean]

ye

they do have a gamer look

but

[vivid vessel]

i prefer just a good desk chair you know

for work

[proven ocean]

they aren't comfortable

ye

u mean

[vivid vessel]

also i prefer mesh

[proven ocean]

office chairs

?

[vivid vessel]

over that weird leather

ye office chair

[proven ocean]

ye like these

they're more comfortable for sure ye

[vivid vessel]

ye

well this specific one

is the one that cost infinite money no ?

[proven ocean]

ye

1500-3000 euro's

[vivid vessel]

one day when im rich

i buy that chair

no cap

[proven ocean]

idk why they're priced that high tho

herman millers

are they that comfortable

?

[vivid vessel]

idk i only ever heard good of these chairs

i think its a mix of being comfortable

and ergonomic

and lasting like

[arctic hollow]

millers is amazing but you can get great products for a fraction of the price

[vivid vessel]

20 years

[red zinc]

My chair pogchamp

[vivid vessel]

i think you mostly pay cause its a garantee your chair last you a life time basically

[red zinc]

you just buy refurbished

[vivid vessel]

other than it being a good chair

[red zinc]

and usually still have a warranty

[covert kestrel]

Damn I got mine from an office closeout sale for $300, US supremacy once again

[red zinc]

like I think I got mine for 450 with a 10y warranty

Gotta say though

Chairs with headrests are so overrated

Who tf leaning back like that

[glass mortar]

I got a non Herman Miller for with the same design for like 90 bucks

It was a great chair

Only lasted 3 years thi

They definitly have that price point for a reason

[red zinc]

well

[glass mortar]

My college friend got one after his first job

[red zinc]

mine did break after 6y

[glass mortar]

He's had it for what 9 years now

[red zinc]

but warranty

[glass mortar]

No issues

[snow totem]

Used my stimmi money from covid to buy an embody, worth every penny

Still looks brand new 5 years later

[red zinc]

one of the metal legs just broke

[covert kestrel]

"Never skimp on anything that goes between you and the ground"

[red zinc]

like bro im not that fat

[jolly geyser]

buy me one

[loud hazel]

hey guys

the hero talent ''double risk'' doesn't works for blue coin?

[sonic kettle]

Hello! Quick macro question, my feral main has the following macro that I use so during combat i can meld, otherwise out of combat it uses prowl:
/cast [nocombat] !Prowl
/cast [combat] Shadowmeld(Racial)
/cast [combat] Prowl

Does anyone know how to make it work for rogue, except, it would try to use meld first, but if meld's on cooldown, it uses vanish?

[cobalt mist]

its not that they're comfortable (they are) its that they let you sit at a desk for 8 hours a day without ruining your body as much

best place to get them is on craigslist and fbm, especially if a business is going out bc they usually have em by the truckload

[desert tendon]

/cast [outlaw]

😔

[sullen wyvern]

guys I think wowhead is being DDoS cuz I am refreshing the website and I dont see any class tuning changes for outlaw

[subtle ginkgo]

i got a used herman miller for like $150 about 7 years ago and it still is in great shape. i had a secret lab before that and my back killed me

[frail veldt]

Yeah herman miller really is as good as people say

I have one too

[frail veldt]

Yeah I agree they arent like "remarkably comfortable"

they feel just like a nice ish chair

but its what you dont notice that is actually amazing

like the pain you thought was from the gym or from running was actually your chair

so many chronic pains that I thought were from other things magically went away after getting the chair

can sit for literlaly 16 hours straight with no pain

[red zinc]

another day another report

[novel socket]

unless you report them 50 times nothing will happen

[red zinc]

thankfully like half my guildies report them along with me

usually enough to get em

[novel socket]

in that case yeah

they will get banned automatically

[red zinc]

like its useless to do it right

but seeing cretins like this get banned just makes me happy

[loud hazel]

double risk is working guys?

[shy meteor]

Is it already known or simulated which corruption, we will be using in 11.1.5?

[vivid vessel]

@red zinc

one of your friend

[desert tendon]

LMAO

[red zinc]

probably

[sullen wyvern]

outlaw probably should get a 5% nerf

buff deva

[haughty wigeon]

that vdh is asleep..

[vivid vessel]

wiat thats an overall

[sullen wyvern]

it is, watching zerocool stream

like wtf is that

[vivid vessel]

surely people should play deva

or

[haughty wigeon]

wait until you see warlock'

:)

[vivid vessel]

bro m+

tuning is wild

every season

[sullen wyvern]

They only tune around raid

they couldnt care about m+

maybe when MDI starts/finishes

[proven ocean]

That 678 with 20% avoidance

Full bis

[vivid vessel]

ah nvm

[proven ocean]

Ye

Not as op as it looks

Xdd

[vivid vessel]

ye ok nvm

i legit do the damage zero is doing

as outlaw

on live rn

[proven ocean]

If anything that overall is low from the rogue/boomkin

[vivid vessel]

yes

i do more as outalw

with my gear rn

[proven ocean]

U prob could on that key level yea

[vivid vessel]

i know i could

i know what outlaw can do

altough i know how bad it is

5.31 is already entirely doable with a good route on live

[proven ocean]

Zerocool is just playing master assassin

Thats mega troll

[vivid vessel]

with 678?

ye

[proven ocean]

Also

Hes not getting the juice out of that build

Idk

[sullen wyvern]

I thought @proven ocean was zerocool

[proven ocean]

Master assassin is more overall

But

[vivid vessel]

same bro

[proven ocean]

Idk why hes not doing 7m overall

In that key

Same with boomkin

[sullen wyvern]

zac you prob get this question a lot but how would you fix outlaw

[proven ocean]

?????

[sullen wyvern]

I wanna know your opinion

[proven ocean]

I stream on zerossxdd

Not

Zerocoolx

?!??!

[sullen wyvern]

sorry man I thought you were him

[vivid vessel]

i have this prepped actually

[proven ocean]

APOLOGY NOT ACCEPTED OK

[vivid vessel]

a list of a few bullet points

really easy

[sullen wyvern]

I'll throw you a follow and a sub

[vivid vessel]

I call it

"A speedrun to fixing outlaw"

[proven ocean]

If you sub i’ll ban you

[vivid vessel]

the 101 guide : how to fix outlaw for noobs

[proven ocean]

No cap

[sullen wyvern]

ok I wont sub

[vivid vessel]

• fix energy out of adr so dropping it doesnt feel like absolute garbage (this should be more than just increasing energy regen btw, increasing base max energy would cover the bad rng moments)
• soft cap so its not an issue in m+ anymore
• i think pc could be our niche, very simple, buff it a bit and put it in the gate above so its easy to take
• fix ks obvioulsy
• we can ignore fatebound for a bit if we just make trickster meta for a while, anyone would be happy about that anyway, less work for blizz and trickster is just a better damage profile for us
• add a line to uuh so that while in subterfuge you have adr (this fix the loopy part about uuh), I think this thing could be very big for uptime reliance since now instead of needing to farm vanish back while in adr, you can still vanish after adr dropped to get back in the loop

here it is

[proven ocean]

No subbing allowed

Me no need money

[vivid vessel]

5 points

about an afternoon of work

[proven ocean]

[haughty wigeon]

odds are

[proven ocean]

Wtf

Ur pfp

[haughty wigeon]

zerocool is also playing some werid build

[proven ocean]

Smiley guy

[haughty wigeon]

yes

[proven ocean]

Me like me like

[haughty wigeon]

[proven ocean]

OOOOO

ME LIIIIIIKE

SHEEEEESH

[haughty wigeon]

ty

i am very sleepy this week

[vivid vessel]

[hybrid crown]

Maybe even just turn a knob on the fatebound side so that it's better for st or light cleave fights

[proven ocean]

[hybrid crown]

Since that's pretty much all they did for trickster

For aoe

[icy cedar]

wow, some dude made a post on /r/competitivewow that noted Mending Proliferation doesn't do anything and Blizzard just updated notes saying they fixed it, in 24 hours. Do rogues ever get that kinda turnaround?

[proven ocean]

@sullen wyvern hi come back

[vivid vessel]

yes

[sullen wyvern]

actually really nice

[proven ocean]

Zac stop being rude to taranx

Wtf

[sullen wyvern]

I'm a slow reader man

[proven ocean]

??

[vivid vessel]

when we have positive bugs

the coup bug got fixed in half a week

on a friday

[icy cedar]

😿

[proven ocean]

Zac zac idk what to watch fuck fuck

Man man

[vivid vessel]

actually unprecedented

[proven ocean]

Idkidkikdikd

[vivid vessel]

devil may cry

i told you

to watch it

you noob

[proven ocean]

A

[vivid vessel]

you still havent

[sullen wyvern]

reacher s3

[proven ocean]

I forgot to watch

No cappi

[vivid vessel]

I mean imo, all these points are the main pain points of outlaw, and are quite easy to fix

its not massive changes

just moving a talent around

chainging number here and here

the only one change that would mean work maybe is actually fixing ks

but even then

[sullen wyvern]

I agree

[vivid vessel]

you just do a quick and dirty fix like wox did

and its alreayd 10 times better

[sullen wyvern]

What actually pisses me off is that members of outlaw community even offers solutions but devs ignore us

[icy cedar]

just give me Legion Outlaw back with 0 gcd dreadblades so im spamming 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 so fast that my keyboard breaks

it'll save the economy

[proven ocean]

True lmao

My keyboard did break from outlaw in bfa

Fun times

Not only did my 1 button keycap come off, my entire button just started to lag all the time and then stopped working completely

[hybrid crown]

It's q and e for me

[proven ocean]

I probably did hit the 100million click lifespan or someshit

LOL

[hybrid crown]

Every time

[icy cedar]

i had a das keyboard at the time, and my number keys stopped working

bought this razer crap afterwards

[proven ocean]

I have a 1000$ keyboard now tho so that’ll likely not happen again

[hybrid crown]

Those numbers assume you aren't zug zuggin the keys

[sullen wyvern]

Now something THat i've had in my head is that if outlaw goes softcap might be too strong, ofc I might be dead wrong on this, but considering how much of a good ST you can do right now as outlaw.

[vivid vessel]

we lose on basically every target count

and on uncapped

we lose to tanks

i sincerly

with all the objectivety in the world

cannot see

how outlaw would be op

with a soft cap

[hybrid crown]

Get a keyboard with hot swappable switches so you can just pop in new switches when they break

[icy cedar]

losing ADR when falling down the hole in rookery and flying across the gap in Mechagon is the absolute worst feeling in the world

[vivid vessel]

and honestly

[sullen wyvern]

yo umean even at current cap we lose to tanks?

[vivid vessel]

there isnt that many packs above target caps

so it wouldnt change drastically our overalls numbers

but on the packs that are uncapped at least we wouldnt be battling against the tank

[sullen wyvern]

yeah, its mostly to lil annoying shit whose health bars you dont even see in plater, we not being able ot hit that is annoying and depressing to see in details

[vivid vessel]

i mean currenrly you do first pack workshop, or priory or cinderbrew

and you do tank damage

and these packs

[sullen wyvern]

well yeah cuz its 8++++++

[vivid vessel]

are not little annoyiung shit

[sullen wyvern]

I thought you meant at 8 targets my bad

[vivid vessel]

every mob is important

and we do shit all

[sullen wyvern]

I meant stuff like the lil kobolds on DFC first pull, we cant do shit to that most of the time

[proven ocean]

Zac

Ngl tom and jerry anime was goated

But idk if its my favorite anime

Whats ur fav anime cuh

?

[vivid vessel]

tokyo ghoul

s1

after that its a bit weird

[sullen wyvern]

since when tom and jerry is anime

[proven ocean]

Rick and morty best anime of its year of release for sure tho

[proven ocean]

?

Its a drawing

= anime

[sullen wyvern]

not really

[vivid vessel]

ye i guess arcane then

very good

[icy cedar]

the japanese use anime to refer to any animation, it's their term for cartoon

[proven ocean]

Nope

[icy cedar]

in english anime usually specifically refers to Japanese cartoons

[sullen wyvern]

it's anime when it comes from japan or its all kawai uwu desu

[proven ocean]

Disney has better anime than japan

[sullen wyvern]

TJ is a cartoon

[proven ocean]

No cap

[desert tendon]

real

zero with the fact

[sullen wyvern]

well you are technically right

[desert tendon]

just spitting fax

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel @late swallow Thoughts?

[vivid vessel]

hm

[sullen wyvern]

it's just when I hear anime I refer to stuff coming from Japan

[vivid vessel]

ye i like some disneys

but its hard cause

its a lot of nostalgia

[waxen scarab]

خوي صلحو deft manuver ؟

[vivid vessel]

you grew up with disney

[desert tendon]

zero with the 📠

no cap

cuh on a killing spree

[proven ocean]

??? Do i look like a wow dev

Also i dont have a arabic keyboard noob

[vivid vessel]

arent you talking arabic ?

in like your every day life

[proven ocean]

FIGORSMKLPVSF;DMVSITPKJNB;B

HOW WILL I TYPE ARABIC

[vivid vessel]

but you cant type in arabic ?

[proven ocean]

IF MY KEYBOARD

NO ARABIC

?

[vivid vessel]

i mean idk

but like i can type french if i want

cause sometimes i need to

do you never type in arabic ?

[proven ocean]

COUPE DE FRANCE

[vivid vessel]

you dont need to sometimes?

[proven ocean]

Thats doable

But

Coup de arabic

Not possible

[waxen scarab]

ههههههههه

[icy cedar]

I've seen arabs type in latin letters, but they'll use numbers like 5 and 3 to represent sounds we don't have in English

[proven ocean]

Yea yea yea ofc ofc cuh

Outlaw guy

Pin is still the same

@vivid vessel

No cap cuh like

Anime = disney shit

What do u think

?

[desert tendon]

yea just type arabic with your kb zero

wtf

i can talk french as i want

voila

[gusty light]

Yea we use it to replace arabic words but they have the same spelling

And we use numbers to replace the letter that not in English or headache

Like kh = 5

And there is letter that cannot be typed in English

Like 3 we use it for a letter that we cannot type in English

[cold jewel]

I heard @vivid vessel wears Velcro shoes

[vivid vessel]

no one wears velcro

is it a french thing or what

[desert tendon]

i think it is zac

[runic bough]

Yo outlaws, it's me ryukage I have seen the .5 patch notes.

We are still in retirement.

[sullen wyvern]

signing for 12s (I have these dungeons timed in 13-14) and still getting declined is too depressing

[late swallow]

I think disney and japanese animation is too different to compare like that :/

Plus ur kinda comparing animation from one company vs a whole country lol

[glass mortar]

wtf is disney anime

[late swallow]

I think he meant animation

[glass mortar]

i mean

its just two different styles

[proven ocean]

nah

[glass mortar]

i wouldnt call one better or worse thats just like personal opinion

[proven ocean]

anime is just disney shit

its just with japan language

nothing different

[late swallow]

You gotta narrow it down

More like disney vs ghibli

[glass mortar]

the animation styles are completely different

[late swallow]

And in that case they’re just really different

Diff themes and subtext

[proven ocean]

ok it worked

[glass mortar]

u can compare the stories

[vivid vessel]

if they make it

[glass mortar]

why the animation tho

[vivid vessel]

so that you cant do the los thing anymore

[proven ocean]

i used the idea from max

he said

[vivid vessel]

im legit quitting

[proven ocean]

just tell any anime fan

that its disney shit

and see how they react

[late swallow]

Tru

If u wanna tilt a weeb

That’s a good way to do it

[glass mortar]

how we reacted was by saying "they are different"

u really gotus

[proven ocean]

see

[late swallow]

Family guy is my fav anime

[proven ocean]

ur still mad

it worked

[glass mortar]

surely its them making it easier to do the LoS thing

[proven ocean]

good one

[glass mortar]

i dont think anyone is mad here ross

[vivid vessel]

surely weran

right

[glass mortar]

i mean surely they now

[vivid vessel]

its not them fixing it

[glass mortar]

this is the most shit boss

ever in any dungeon

[late swallow]

Newgrounds hentai is my fav anime

[vivid vessel]

so the fight

is now

[glass mortar]

nobody likes this boss

[vivid vessel]

impossible

[late swallow]

Real ones know

[vivid vessel]

as outlaw

[glass mortar]

its not enjoyable to any class

[vivid vessel]

surely

guys

guys ?

[proven ocean]

guys

guys?

[vivid vessel]

guys im not gonna have to afk 5 sec every 30 s

guys ?

[glass mortar]

what if we made a boss where u had to go afk for 8s every 30s

[proven ocean]

guys?

[glass mortar]

like

they cant be that out of touch

[vivid vessel]

ok tell me

what does the los

add to the fight

[proven ocean]

ok telling you

[glass mortar]

nothing

[late swallow]

Are we still farding and shidding about outlaw?

[vivid vessel]

doing the los now is better

[glass mortar]

idk this boss is a failure of design

[late swallow]

Move on bro she doesn’t love you anymore

[glass mortar]

they know whenever they do LoS design in a boss

[vivid vessel]

its harder and if you do it right you can keep hitting

[glass mortar]

its always super rare and short

[vivid vessel]

while having a positional requirement

if they fix that

[glass mortar]

this is definitly a rule they understand

[proven ocean]

somnius

ngl

[quaint loom]

[proven ocean]

why do people

[vivid vessel]

its gg

man

[proven ocean]

like to see football

[vivid vessel]

gg

[quaint loom]

you wont be able to hit the boss bro

[proven ocean]

like

[glass mortar]

so why does this boss break it so much worse then anything else

[proven ocean]

they keep shooting a ball

[vivid vessel]

idk what to say

[proven ocean]

24/7

and

[glass mortar]

theyve ever made

[proven ocean]

they always shoot it in the same way

its not like

they added ketchup to the ball or someshit

ball to goal

WOW I HAD SO MUCH FUN WATCHING

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH

[vivid vessel]

bro if they actually fixed the los

im gonna be so mad

[proven ocean]

which los

?

[vivid vessel]

outlaw legit gonna do tank damage on that fight

ross

[glass mortar]

that would be the biggest L

[proven ocean]

OLPEJTRWKMG;FFVBDS;IKHMJNTREFDHGBTFDUJNS

[glass mortar]

in history

[proven ocean]

WTF

NO WAY

[glass mortar]

if it was the case

[proven ocean]

NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

THAT SHIT IS A WILD ASS CHANGE MAN

[vivid vessel]

this dungeon is already so shit

[glass mortar]

yup

[proven ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[glass mortar]

and this boss is just the worse

the worse kinda mechanic u can do

[late swallow]

Worst*

[glass mortar]

combined with it being the main mechanic of the fight

[late swallow]

[glass mortar]

like what

they definitly have a rule for this right u look at all the fights in history since WoD that have included LoS, and its always like, "hide during an intermission with nothing to hit anyway" or "hide for 2s then back out"

[sullen wyvern]

guys guys

[glass mortar]

they know better then this boss

every single person in the game hates it

[sullen wyvern]

I think we gotta stack stamina enchants and gems and use twilight devastation

[vivid vessel]

guys they wouldnt fix it right

[late swallow]

Than*

[sullen wyvern]

and our aoe issues will go away

[late swallow]

bro tighten it up

[sullen wyvern]

[proven ocean]

wheres ur full stop?

?

[vivid vessel]

there is no way they would fix it right guys

haha

[proven ocean]

?

where

full stop

noob

tighten it up

[glass mortar]

what are corruptions gunna do dps wise post buff

[proven ocean]

somnius

[vivid vessel]

outlaw gonna go from trash to unplayable