outlaw

[wintry solar]

Oh god

[dawn talon]

but it was still okay

[glass mortar]

it had good parts but it felt a little hello kitty to me idk

[dawn talon]

i would rather a hello kitty island adventure expansion

[glass mortar]

we had no serious costs, we repowered the dragon aspects basically 4free while beating everyone

[wintry solar]

The undead heritage questline was literally "all things are possible with friendship"

[dawn talon]

than some of the actual unbearable cringe moments

from sl

heh... this is so grimdark...

[glass mortar]

it was a big step up from shadowlands ending tho tbf so

shadowlands story

post s1

i will not speak

[dawn talon]

isn't this fucked up? imagine anduin but like... the dark side of him... from getting tortured by evil...

[glass mortar]

big trouble

[dawn talon]

he's emo now...

[glass mortar]

denny mogged the jailer 500%

[wintry solar]

Sick twisted cycle path

[glass mortar]

was a mistake making him the s1 villian

[dawn talon]

they massively recovered the anduin storyline

with tww though

[glass mortar]

its good to see consequences of what he went through yea

[late swallow]

mop was so good though

[glass mortar]

woulda been easy to just sweep it under the rug and move on

[late swallow]

raids were bangers

pvp was banger

class design was banger

[glass mortar]

mop i cant comment

[wintry solar]

Mop was fun

[glass mortar]

the 1 wow expansion ive never played

so i am looking forward to classic unironically

[dawn talon]

yeah and they didn't do some stupid copout bullshit either

[wintry solar]

Mop into wod into legion was a rollercoaster

[dawn talon]

where he gets sad and mopey and comes back 2 seasons later and he's okay now

you watch him actually struggle

[desert tendon]

oh boy

someone said

cata pvp?

peak gameplay of wow

no cap

if u disagree block me

[wintry solar]

Combat meta until daggers

[glass mortar]

sub rogue

legendary daggers

vial of shadows

HRNNNG

[desert tendon]

rmp cata

mama

[wintry solar]

I member

Also the best dk pre legion

[glass mortar]

sub had to maintain recuperate for its dps rotation

so u just had healing perma

recup was so good man

[wintry solar]

Mop close second

[glass mortar]

combat readiness

[desert tendon]

does recuperator

even work now?

[wintry solar]

Teehee

[desert tendon]

or is it still bugged?

[glass mortar]

who tf knows

[desert tendon]

[wintry solar]

Guess what

Also bugged

[dawn talon]

i know everyone circlejerks legion class design

[dawn talon]

but holy fuck legion unholy was so sick

[glass mortar]

i guess its working

look how poggers

doing half the healing of my 3% leech

[desert tendon]

that s afull key?

looks

[glass mortar]

this is a single pull of one arm

[desert tendon]

terryfyingly

terrible

[glass mortar]

just look at the relative %s

[desert tendon]

54 hits

[glass mortar]

ticking for 100k

a tick

[desert tendon]

would means

[glass mortar]

what

[desert tendon]

108s fight

right?

it s 1 tic every 2s ?

[glass mortar]

3s

[desert tendon]

actually wondering

how dare they nerf recuperator

when it s not working half the seasons

[late swallow]

cata pvp was so good man

ret paladins WoGing people for full hp bars

[desert tendon]

rogue being cc bot for 2mn

until they oneshot u randomely for fun

[wintry solar]

That was the expansion they expanded the race/class combos

Undead hunters being the only ones that could tame undead animals was a cool bit of depth.

Actually had uses too

WoW needs CoD calling cards and a kill feed

[late swallow]

there's that death log addon for HC

or uhh

i think it's built into the game

[glass mortar]

theres a built in log now too

but yea theres an addon

i vibe with HC, hardcore bc will be more interesting since the game was a bit more serious there

[hybrid crown]

did they ever make geargrinder work on gally

and other floaty bosses

[gaunt phoenix]

No

[wintry solar]

Hmm

I should make an addon

Let me rephrase

I should hire somebody to make an addon

That's not against ToS is it?

[glass mortar]

i mean people literally make money off addons they make for the game no?

i dont see why it would be

[wintry solar]

Do they? I don't know.

Idek where I'd go

[glass mortar]

yes there are definitly addons with paid premiums and packages and such

people literally paywall plater profiles and such

to have an addon made? im not sure. what do u want it to do?

[frail veldt]

@vivid vessel do you delay vanish on opener to coup before your first one if youre at 3 stacks?

[wintry solar]

Just a UI

ClassicUI but for BFA/SL instead of Legion

It's no biggie, if I can cool of not that's fine too.

[dawn talon]

commissioning an addon or configuration for an addon is fine

accepting financial contributions for your work on an addon is fine

charging money directly for an addon that serves a direct gameplay function is not fine

[wintry solar]

Do you know where I can go to find someone?

[dawn talon]

no clue

[wintry solar]

Idk how long it'd take either that's why I want to find someone soon. It's a gift for someone.

For crimas

Christmas

I'll figure it out ty

[long barn]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[craggy barn]

its over guys

my dk is my m+ main again

[prisma sapphire]

Still miss coup bug

The sound of double coup was so refreshing

[rotund zodiac]

[novel pier]

nasty drop

[runic bough]

yo flushies how r u

[wintry solar]

Go back to sleep

[rotund zodiac]

Hii

still coping, need outlaw buff

[opal cosmos]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[runic bough]

[grim spear]

are there any videos of Mugzee running with 4 healers?

[grim spear]

is mister lock&stalk good for outlaw?

[rotund zodiac]

@errant terrace Were you the one I was playing with?

+10 ML

[errant terrace]

I was!

you were amazing, I know I undershoot how many killing sprees I can fit in a fight, but seeing how many you could do made me realize I could be a lil more dangerous

[feral glen]

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/266712108861751296 discussed 1h ago compared to Vexie/Mugzee trinket

[cinder haven]

Yesterday I was a bit tired in a brew key, pressed ks while targeted by hobgoblin charge. He ran off to narnia pulling another pack.

[gaunt phoenix]

[rotund zodiac]

I ks on CD cuz I’m suicidal 💀

[cinder haven]

We’re basically supposed to ks between each crackshot window

Just gotta have laser focus for the full key

I have to say though, it’s really satisfying when you nail the timings a whole key without delaying much

[torpid fiber]

flushies is da goat bro smurfs playing on >100ping

[errant terrace]

honestly, dude's an inspiration

[torpid fiber]

100%

[runic bough]

Yo its me Ryukage

whats all this yap

[cinder haven]

There’s no one here to yap anymore

💀

[hidden bay]

Theres like 2 yappers left

Ol population died out

[wintry solar]

Anything new?

In terms of cooks

[cinder haven]

Did you see latest pin?

[wintry solar]

Negative

One sec

[cinder haven]

deft got killed almost

Hanging on by a thin thread

[wintry solar]

Dang that's rough

[cinder haven]

Still good on 1pt fth

1pt fth should sim pretty well now

[grim spear]

ic, ty

[wintry solar]

That's good

Maybe I'll pick up kir again soon

I swapped outlaw as my alt so I've been exclusively running no Ace in keys when I'm not tanking

Do miss kir tho

[grim spear]

If locknstalk can perform similarly to Mugzee in single-target when paired with the right number of haste, then it should be really strong in Mythic+ since it can switch modes, right?

[cinder haven]

Not really

[grim spear]

ok

[cinder haven]

It’s alright, but there are better options

[wintry solar]

That's a shame too because so far thats one of the coolest trinkets this tier

[cinder haven]

I kinda like the design of magnet too

[wintry solar]

I haven't gotten that one yet

[cinder haven]

Cds that you can hold without losing anything is cool imo

[wintry solar]

What does magnet do?

[grim spear]

it does magneto

[cinder haven]

20s cd on use, but it has stacks so you can hold as long s as you don’t max stacks without losing anything basically

[wintry solar]

What are the stacks? Vers or something?

[cinder haven]

Just damage

[wintry solar]

Nice

Who drops it

[grim spear]

stix

so guys, if I want to dual-spec Outlaw and one of the dagger specs in a new tier, what’s the best practice?
this tier I just rolled a rogue alt to play outlaw, but that means I can't really play it in raid anymore.

[cinder haven]

It’s st though

[wintry solar]

I'll need it then

The extra ST would be nice

[cinder haven]

Depends on what you plan on doing? Myth raiding?

[grim spear]

raiding mainly

[wintry solar]

What difficulty

[hot olive]

what would be your dinar choices?

[grim spear]

ce

[cinder haven]

If you are like the only rogue then you can probably get daggers from raid

And craft mh for outlaw

Outlaw is best on farm anyway tbh

[wintry solar]

Isn't all we know about dinars is that they'll exist?

Who's knows what you can buy

[grim spear]

ye, so i started this tier as sub/assa

tbh i play outlaw better

[cinder haven]

We won’t be able to take miniature roulette wheel with perfect stats probably

Otherwise that would be nice

Probably take capo

[cinder haven]

Worst case you just craft both mh for outlaw and a dagger

Bit wasteful for the other specs but outlaw can use the dagger in oh at least

[wintry solar]

I wish sub can use 1h offhand

Without throwing

[cinder relic]

Wdym u can't play outlaw in raid

[grim spear]

Since it's just an alt, I can't really tell the raid leader I want to use my new Outlaw rogue for this boss.

It just feels like Outlaw and the other two specs have completely different stat priorities

so it's a headache figuring out where to spend my vault picks, crafting orders, and crests.

[cinder haven]

If you are primarily sub/assa in the raid it is hard to motivate taking an mh for outlaw if it drops yeah

It’s a dilemma

[cinder relic]

I mean outlaw is pretty solid this tier

[cinder haven]

While there is less/no competition for daggers

[grim spear]

maybe I should be primarily as outlaw in raid daggers are surely mine anyway

[cinder haven]

Yes

That for sure one strategy

Then you can be ”nice” and flex to the other specs if needed for prog

You can probably flex to assa with just about any stats

[hidden bay]

Yeah assa stats is crazy free

Using outlaw set with swapped rings

[snow hill]

I just wanna say, I Love how this is phrased: "What's best practice".
I'm a clinician so it caught my eye immediately lol

[snow hill]

Ye... Made the crafted ring last night with Vers/Crit and was finally able to ditch C.C (rest in piss).

[rotund zodiac]

I hate circlet

Holding my ilvl back

[cinder haven]

Pvp rings/neck work but also low ilvl if you care about that

[grim spear]

lol we programmers use that a lot too

[cinder haven]

There’s some delve rings/necks that are vers slanted too

[snow hill]

Makes sense bro, I get crippled people walking again, you guys fix code, mechanics fix vehicles. Much respect.

[snow hill]

And honestly they are GREAT. Got a vers/haste one Heroic and woulda used it but would of had 24% Haste

[snow hill]

Honestly I was surprised hey. I originally went to craft the MH but it only simmed for +45k and replacing C.C with crafted ring gave +65k (have both 665 M+ weps)

[cinder haven]

I collect necks and rings like a magpie on outlaw due to haste cap

[fickle echo]

is the Remannt of Darkness thingy from DFC a strong trinket? looking up top trinkets on Archon and its showing up as a popular trinket but i think its mainly cause mr Woxtoxic is running it, any thoughts?

[vivid vessel]

I pre ks so I always have 4 before first vanish

[rotund zodiac]

How do you pre ks?

Ks on something before key?

[cinder haven]

It’s too random in my opinion

But it works

[cinder haven]

Yeah outside or turnip or whatever, just don’t use ss/ambush after obviously

[tender breach]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[fickle echo]

i have it in my vault and running these already, i could pick someting else too http://puu.sh/Ks0Uz/195160a494.jpg

just wondering cause it is a myth track dungeon trinket so i might not have another chance to pick it

ifi pass on it now

and IF its OP and im just out of the loop

[cinder haven]

It’s not op at least

[daring oxide]

Ask wox directly

[supple crescent]

what combo of gems to use for cyrces circlet ?

using thunder/undersea/legendary atm

[vivid vessel]

Wox is an assa main now

Can't be trusted

[proven ocean]

Always sim ur trinkets

U can’t cook that shit up

[vivid vessel]

i will sim your ass

noob

[rustic lotus]

Is the capo cantrip cracked?

[vivid vessel]

its good

idk about cracked

we have had better cantrips in the past

its not really out of the ordinary

[fickle echo]

just interested in the why, like either its better than expected or just working with what hes got

[rustic lotus]

It’s rather unfortunate how I think outlaw is the most fun spec in the game by far but I’m stuck in KS jail

Also the dudes I run with think Killing Spree looks cool af but they don’t understand the pain. One dude said he wanted to roll an outlaw. Yet another fly into the trap I guess.

[wintry solar]

Everyone who doesn't understand the pain of KS thinks it looks cool

And it honestly is

But damn if it ain't dangerous lol

[vivid vessel]

popo back to yellow !

[wintry solar]

Rah!!!

Yeah was temp

[rotund zodiac]

[still matrix]

Blizzard witness me and fix bugs

[wintry solar]

I want one big bte

Not bunch of small/medium BTE

Pwease reawz 👉👈🥺

You can take GSW as a sacrifice

And the second stack of fth

And KS

And Echoing Reprimand just to be safe

[dense lichen]

@daring oxide

How is Outlaw atm

[wintry solar]

Fun in the sense of a full body workout but your gains have plateaued

That probably doesn't make sense but it's fun and a lot of work for decent damage.

[crude flower]

Tbh isn’t outlaw just press the glowing button sim

[vivid vessel]

[wintry solar]

I wanna say kinda

[vivid vessel]

ye like every spec in the game

[wintry solar]

Yeah every spec has its proc but some specs have more depth outside of procs than others

[vivid vessel]

ye like assa

[crude flower]

Yep

[vivid vessel]

depth

[cinder haven]

Builder prio for 1pt fth for sure isn’t just press the glowing button

[vivid vessel]

it is if you instal hekillih

[cinder haven]

True!

[vivid vessel]

just instal hekilih and every spec is the same

true and real

I love the press glowing buttons takes

[cinder haven]

Sounds incredibly boring

[crude flower]

See this guy gets it

It is

[wintry solar]

You want boring, you should label the rotational abilities of every spec 1-4

[crude flower]

Aka the hunter specs

Or I guess Surv has a few more buttons than BM

[cinder haven]

Builder1, builder2, spender1, spender2, cd1, cd2

[wintry solar]

He gets it

Peak gameplay

That's probably part of the reason visuals are so important

[fleet cairn]

A couple quick questions, for trickster opener do I use killing spree at the start in subterfuge window or do I never use KS in subterfuge?

Also, is the preference to use KS with supercharged CP or without or does it not matter?

[wintry solar]

Not in subt and it doesn't matter

Supercharged KS could actually kill you

[fleet cairn]

yeah that's what I mean my preference is to not use supercharged KS

[wintry solar]

Is more likely to kill you*

[fleet cairn]

but good to know ty

[wintry solar]

RTB -> Killing Spree -> Release Spirit

[covert kestrel]

I love a supercharged unhasted ks, it allows me to take a sip of water during a key

[fleet cairn]

hahaha that's true, gives the ol' RSI a bit of a break

[past path]

should i still use dagger on offhand or it doesnt matter?

[wintry solar]

Don't matter

[past path]

ok

[wintry solar]

You get more DPS from the sweet mogs 1h has

Unless you love poison procs

[past path]

it doesnt do anything about energy regen right?

[wintry solar]

No it's normalized

[south scaffold]

guys, im just too dumb for killing spree in m+. permantly getting myself killed or nearly killed

[vivid vessel]

ye

complain to blizzard

[honest sparrow]

wait does ks durance actually getting reduced by adr etc?

[south scaffold]

we need ot take it i guess, right?

[vivid vessel]

no

its reduced by haste

and if you spend more cp its longer

[honest sparrow]

the more cp i knew but i didnt know it gets reduced by haste

[covert kestrel]

In m+ yes

[daring oxide]

Gg it’s over

[daring oxide]

Amazing, most fun spec

[silk stirrup]

Notice when you have lust that shit blasts in like 0.5 seconds

[silk stirrup]

If you have the mental strength of being ridiculed in the first lust pull of every dungeon and the making a comeback then pretty good

[vivid vessel]

does someone have a mouse, with reprogrammable buttons, with similar buttons format to the g502 x(3 side buttons and 2 up there)
I wanted to keep using the g502x but i have bought and retunred about 5 of them by now and they always have the side button break after like 1 month of usage

[desert tendon]

Simple fix

Buy corsair smictar

Or razer naga

Gg

[vivid vessel]

idk if i can ever by a razer mouse

shit look too cheap

[wintry solar]

There's a pvp brawl that increases haste by like 150% and a mage lusted and when I say KS was instant I mean it was INSTANT

[desert tendon]

That s why i said corsair first

Its à brick

[wintry solar]

Love me Naga

[desert tendon]

Shit is the 3310 of mice

[vivid vessel]

too many buttons tho

[wintry solar]

Does take getting used to

[desert tendon]

I mean

U dont have to use them all

They Nice to have

[vivid vessel]

ye but its confusing to have too many i feel

idk i never tried

[desert tendon]

Nah it s actually simple

U see

[vivid vessel]

honestly i just wish i could use my g502x and have it not break

[red zinc]

unpopular take but

[vivid vessel]

its the best mouse

[red zinc]

i think they should remove resilient

[vivid vessel]

but it breaks every month

on the clock

[desert tendon]

The 1st and 2nd colomn have différent textures

[vivid vessel]

hm

[desert tendon]

Also

[red zinc]

wait what

[desert tendon]

It s weird

[red zinc]

mine worked for like 3.5 years

[wintry solar]

Resilient?

[desert tendon]

G502 isnt that weak

[red zinc]

resilient keystones

[vivid vessel]

so

[red zinc]

it was a mistake

[wintry solar]

Oh those

[vivid vessel]

i bought and refunded about 5/6 g502x

[desert tendon]

U should be more gentle

[vivid vessel]

cause the side buttons break

[red zinc]

ur squeezing that mouse or smth

[vivid vessel]

i use them as rotational buttons very intensly

cause

its my alt and ctrl

so its basically always pressed every 2 gcd

you get me

and apprenytly tyhey arent able to handle that

[red zinc]

zac idk if you've noticed the amount of people buying boosts

in m+

[vivid vessel]

while the old one right

[red zinc]

with this new keystone shit

[vivid vessel]

the old g502

never broke

[desert tendon]

yea resillient is so good

but so community make it shit

oh

[vivid vessel]

tim

[desert tendon]

yea

[vivid vessel]

have you considered

that the issue is boosting ?

[desert tendon]

i ve heard of that zac

u cant

[red zinc]

oh you timed 3 16s and the rest on 13? and the 16s were magically with 3.6 players?

[desert tendon]

smash them buttons

[red zinc]

incredible

[vivid vessel]

you are again wanting to make the game worse for most people

cause a little amount of people abuse it

for boosting

what if boosting for title and shit was just not allowed

[red zinc]

that is indeed a what if

blizzard makes money off of it

they aint ever banning it

[desert tendon]

i think boosting must be fully deleted

and

fk them buying splits also in rwf

[vivid vessel]

well hwat if we didnt mmake the game worse for 99% of people cause a few abuse the system

you know

[desert tendon]

also tiem

if u want

i ve cinderbrw 16

20k per try

iykyk

[red zinc]

real

[desert tendon]

😏

[red zinc]

i need to like

recode the archon addon

[desert tendon]

the parse tracking shit?

should be deleted

[red zinc]

to make one that detects when people time keys with higher scored people randomly

[desert tendon]

the api

[red zinc]

really out here manually checking every person I invite now

[desert tendon]

yersteday we played physical comp with friends

and we needed 1 pug

and we asked yourself if that would be good to have an addon that just filters class you dont wanna see in lfg

but so we realised if it existed

you would only show vdh disc mk mage dk

and it would be absolute garbo

but we wanted a druid dude for our comp

[red zinc]

also maybe im too pisslow rn but i feel like resilient hasnt really been positive for pugging

people just make groups with absolute dogs now

[desert tendon]

and had to navigate through 230 ret

[red zinc]

and leave after 1 mistake

[desert tendon]

not totally true

my most concern with resillient is that

i try to tag 16 right cuz that s what i need

but people tagging their 16 are all resillient bullshit

and so

will they take me 3k3 or a full 3k4+ resillient meta comp

u know

who already timed the key

resillient is so so good no cap, and it could ve been gorgeous. I mean look at the lfg you never seen that many keys posted

just the community use it badly and the behaviour arround it is trash

it s like details

[vivid vessel]

they have been, i never pugged my key before, now i feel like i can push my own key cause it wont deplete into oblivion, its also good for off meta, i have been only inviniting off meta comps when i push back my key for example, and have seen a lot of people do that

[desert tendon]

the addon is a W, the usage is a L, in 99% of cases

yea you re able to just invite a comp that make sens for your class and the other you invite

you dont feel forced to take a mage because it s the best class by 20%

This season balance is so good actually, again, community being dogshit

and rerolling being such easy

like for once since aug exist

this doesnt make sens cuz so many non played stuff is super good

even tanks, gdrood cant die, i just dont like palprot, they feel squishy somehow. And healer everything is kinda good, just oracle pre nerf was a bit of an outlier but you know rdruid is just godliken, mw is doing good, a great hpala just check ellesmere and see what he can make of his spec

these numbers dont represent very well the current state of balance rn

imo

thank you for coming to my ted talk

[vivid vessel]

censi thought on the corsair darkstar

[fiery timber]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter dungeon to get Supercharger.
• ADR before key insert for the Loaded Dice buff and cp.
• DO NOT rtb again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, simillarly do not adr inside the bubble or you will lose the cps
• After the bubble drops RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF then Stealth
• Open on pack with ADR (in range with target, this will pull) into BtE.

[desert tendon]

never used another corsair than the smictar

[vivid vessel]

is corsair good

[desert tendon]

i would look for reviews on internet ya know

corsair usually good

and solid

[vivid vessel]

idk bro

i have legit used the same mouse

for 15 years

btw

[desert tendon]

but still

[vivid vessel]

i was on the old model first the g502

[desert tendon]

i dont think binding rotationnal buttons to the side of your mouse

spamming as outlaw

is a good thing

[vivid vessel]

but its kinda shit to use, its too hard to press the buttons

[desert tendon]

i think pikaboo does that, go check what he s using

[vivid vessel]

the g502x would be so good if it didnt just break on cd

[vivid vessel]

why not

[desert tendon]

cause you spamming ass

[vivid vessel]

ye so what

bro i just wish the g502x worked

like i would legit pay double price

so they give me one that cant break

after 1 month

hell i would pay 300 e for that shit

[desert tendon]

oh

logitech still has the double clic issue

[vivid vessel]

ye i never had that

[desert tendon]

what a garbo hardware company

[vivid vessel]

also i looked around the internet

for my issue right censi

cause like

how does it happen to 5 of my mouse after 1 month each rioght

[desert tendon]

the only logitech i personnaly respect is the gpro wireless, actually so good for fps

[vivid vessel]

and no one

ever had

the same issue as me

[desert tendon]

try to buy from a different source maybe?

[vivid vessel]

so i figured im litteraly the only human on the planet using their mouse like that

[vivid vessel]

wdym

[desert tendon]

idk

[vivid vessel]

its all the same

also if i dont buy from amazon i cant send back

[desert tendon]

maybe you buy from a disfonctionnal stock

🤷‍♂️

[vivid vessel]

amazon is goated

i legit was sending them the mouse back on cd

[desert tendon]

yea i guess if it s from amazon

[vivid vessel]

and they never said anything

[desert tendon]

dude changing mouse every month

for fun

[vivid vessel]

ye i mean

i legit did that

for like 6 months

cuase i was just thinking i was unlucky right

look

[desert tendon]

i m just using corsair smictar for every games, but fps i used to have a gpro and now i m rocking a zowie, ec2 i think it is?

zowie a banger

[vivid vessel]

they didnt care

[desert tendon]

lmao

buy some stock in logitech

[vivid vessel]

thats why i try to buy only from amazon

[desert tendon]

you ll be crypto rich soon

[vivid vessel]

i know that they will always just accept my shit back

if there is an issue

they dont even check anything

[desert tendon]

yea i remember

i had an ipod back then

bought in FNAC

and i was breaking it cuz i was just a careless teenager

i brought it back so many times and get a new one

like

[vivid vessel]

[desert tendon]

6 or 7 times

[vivid vessel]

ye

idk

maybe i just go back to buying a new mouse every 2 months

i guess

over and over

[desert tendon]

they said "if it s repearable we repair it but if it looks like it s no worth, just get a new one"

[vivid vessel]

till anazon blacklist my account

[desert tendon]

not like the ipod was 150€ and the cost of making it was like 2€

so they had their margin

anyway

[stray ginkgo]

The birth of "zac2"

[vivid vessel]

xd

[stray ginkgo]

[desert tendon]

u know i scammed amazon back then

[vivid vessel]

nah but i think im gonna try that corsair one

[desert tendon]

i used an empty bank account

to buy amazon prime

[stray ginkgo]

Just warning you zac

Icue is horrible

[vivid vessel]

whats that

[stray ginkgo]

Makes a lot of issues

Its the software for the corsair mouse

[desert tendon]

but then they realised i couldnt be paying so they gave me 1 month of prime then cancled it

so i was using prime for absolutely free

[vivid vessel]

ah

[desert tendon]

for like

9 months

[vivid vessel]

well the software idc about honeslty

[desert tendon]

then they blocked me

[stray ginkgo]

Like my m+ tank has issues witg it all the time

[vivid vessel]

i just wanna remap my buttons

disable rgb

and then it can fuck off

[stray ginkgo]

That what you need to do it

[desert tendon]

i never had an issue with icue personnaly

[stray ginkgo]

It like crashes and freezes his pc and he has to reinstall once a month lol

Its everyone I know wity corsair

[desert tendon]

it s a your tank issue

cuz

you have memory

[stray ginkgo]

Bc I had the same issue

[desert tendon]

like you can just create a backup file

[stray ginkgo]

Its why I don't use corsair

[desert tendon]

with your mapping and all

[stray ginkgo]

I like the hardware but icue sucks

[vivid vessel]

do you need the software to be open tho

[desert tendon]

it happened to me once since SL S1

[stray ginkgo]

And a simple Google search will back me up lol

[desert tendon]

and it took me 20s to fix it

[vivid vessel]

like if i can just setup the mouse

then never open the sowftare ever again

im fine with that

[desert tendon]

but corsair is solid hardware. Trying out roccat keyboard for a year now, shit is good also

[stray ginkgo]

Its great hardware

Just icue

[vivid vessel]

hm

[stray ginkgo]

[vivid vessel]

idk man

[desert tendon]

yea as i said

havent got an issue but once

and i fixed it in 20s

🤷‍♂️

[vivid vessel]

i just love that g502x so much, it feels so great in the hands, and the buttons are goated

[desert tendon]

since early sl

[vivid vessel]

i just wish it didnt break

like common

just make a mouse that dont breka and i buy it

how hard is it

[desert tendon]

me when i look for your issue

zac

[stray ginkgo]

Yah Logitech is good but all of them cheaply made

[desert tendon]

[stray ginkgo]

Just gotta buy them on sale

[vivid vessel]

i never found anyone that got the same issue than me

[stray ginkgo]

And be ready to get new if you can't return

[vivid vessel]

which was very surpising to me

since it happened 5 times to me

[desert tendon]

DUDE BEEN USING

A PIECE OF CLOTH

TO REPLACE HIS BUTTON

GIGACHAD

[stray ginkgo]

Too much cum in the mouse zac

[desert tendon]

i mean

yea zac i m browsing

you re the only human with this issue

[vivid vessel]

i know

[desert tendon]

people are either super happi or super mad

like usual being on the internet

nothing new

[stray ginkgo]

That's what he needs

[desert tendon]

also it s just g502

noone talking about g502x

[vivid vessel]

the g502x is just the new one

[desert tendon]

it s time to open your mouse zac

[vivid vessel]

ye

tought about that

but i dont have

whats the name

[desert tendon]

i mean

issue is

if u open it

[vivid vessel]

a screewdriver

[desert tendon]

you wont be able to send it back to amazon

[vivid vessel]

ye i know

but i have one i kept

instead of send back

cause i tought one day

i might want to try and repair it

[desert tendon]

ok McGyver

[vivid vessel]

i mena idk man

this mouse is legit so good

the shape

eveyrthing

is perfect

and i have used the same one for 15 years or os

i cnat give up now

just let me spend infinite money so i get one that work i swear !

[red zinc]

workshop giving me tendencies man

how do tanks not know how to position 2nd boss on a 15

[mellow thicket]

does talent swift slasher work better than heavy hitter with the deft changes

in KIR

[vivid vessel]

Ye usually

Well wdym deft change

[mellow thicket]

sorry your talents my b

[vivid vessel]

You play deft still

[mellow thicket]

raider.io shows you not using deft

[vivid vessel]

Me?

Ye in raid

[mellow thicket]

ah damn

[desert tendon]

zac

u gotta start using your mic on stream

else zero gona become a bigger streamer than u

and we dont want that

[vivid vessel]

well i dont really care

itherwise i would be doing streamer shiut if i cared

like talk

[mellow thicket]

but you do communicate a lot in the discord, just now its ... talking

[mystic rapids]

Razer naga v2 pro wireless

[novel socket]

why outlaw is the least played spec in mythic prog

sin is the most played one and even sub has more people over outlaw

[slate plaza]

Hard

Sin does as good boss damage and is easier

[novel socket]

hmm

[fleet cairn]

imagine doing 300 pulls on one boss as outlaw tho

[slate plaza]

Outlaw is usually the least played

[desert tendon]

look at that zac

i m exposing zero rq

[silk stirrup]

It's the least played spec of the least played class

The numbers add up

[novel socket]

i thought sub was the least played spec

and also isn't evoker the least played class ?

[desert tendon]

https://www.twitch.tv/zerossxdd/clip/ProudDarkSushiDxAbomb-9LElaAQT2GNzsry6 @vivid vessel @fallow hinge this is a gift for you 2 guys

[novel socket]

that's a cool weakaura bar

[vivid vessel]

why did you ping liz

[novel socket]

details bars too

[vivid vessel]

she aint french

[desert tendon]

she knows about it

that s why

[novel socket]

are those paid auras ?

[desert tendon]

i taught her that the way to start an intern french fight to ask this question

[vivid vessel]

[desert tendon]

which is kinda true, not really anymore but 5 years ago it was gg you would have french starting to argue for hours

[vivid vessel]

idk anyone that actually says chocolatine btw

also pain au chocolat is iconinc

its like croissant

who tf knows about chocolatine kekw

[desert tendon]

i do :)

[novel socket]

what's chocolatine

[desert tendon]

Blood coming from Arcachon ya know

[novel socket]

[desert tendon]

it s the original name of pain au chocolat which is now used only in south west of france

[late swallow]

I like cannelés

Based pastry

[desert tendon]

which is funny historically cuz it s a term coming from german and north east of france

[late swallow]

Croissants are overrated

[desert tendon]

My man with cannelé

you re a south west kind of dude somnius, i respect you

[novel socket]

wtf

no they are not

[late swallow]

[novel socket]

they are best when filled with strawberry jam

[desert tendon]

nah ok

fk u

no more respect

[novel socket]

wtf

[desert tendon]

croissant au beurre nature are better

than your jam shit

[late swallow]

Based

[novel socket]

wtf is au beurre

[desert tendon]

butter

like the full name of croissant

is

[late swallow]

Just really good butter bro

[desert tendon]

butter croissant

[novel socket]

never heard of that

just croissant

[desert tendon]

cuz noone say that

but you have croissant without butter now

[novel socket]

then why are you saying it

[desert tendon]

and it s awfull

[novel socket]

hmm

[desert tendon]

so gotta be precise

[late swallow]

The french love butter

[novel socket]

lets add both butter and jam

[late swallow]

They are the diddy of euro cuisine

[novel socket]

who doesn't love butter

butter makes so many things better

[desert tendon]

real and factual

need the fat

ya know

[late swallow]

Bro I just want to live somewhere near carcassone and bike year round

[vivid vessel]

[late swallow]

Zac said he’d let me stay with him

[desert tendon]

u dont wanna stay with zac

[late swallow]

But I gotta rub his feet every day

[desert tendon]

i dont think he can cook

[jolly geyser]

I can come over and cook

[orchid gale]

outlaw doesnt use it right

i cann sell it

[desert tendon]

pretty sure it s good

even if it s mastery

cuz of the proc

[rotund zodiac]

Sim it quick

[desert tendon]

@vivid vessel

what about jastor for outlaw

[orchid gale]

@vivid vessel answer dawg

[desert tendon]

[rotund zodiac]

Pug be like “why roll need if you didn’t need it”

[orchid gale]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8aU4DwWcsdojDRVUK8zzM1

[orchid gale]

hahahha

wait

[vivid vessel]

ita trash

dont use

[orchid gale]

ye im thinking tho

maybei stop coping about playing outlaw to title too

and play assa

idk

[rotund zodiac]

Lmao

[desert tendon]

if u ever switch sub or assa once

keep it

[valid kindle]

I mean if you play other specs it's pretty good

[desert tendon]

that s for sure

[eager comet]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[rotund zodiac]

I collect every unique gears drop each season (not delve stuff)

in my bank

[orchid gale]

idk i only have circlet

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8aU4DwWcsdojDRVUK8zzM1

but idk

[vivid vessel]

i mean rolling on it

to sell it tho

pretty scummy if you ask me

should be illegal

[desert tendon]

should be

but kinda became meta

nowadays

which sucks

[orchid gale]

ya

bring back personal loot

either way im gonna keep it just in case assa/sub end up being better in keys

[rotund zodiac]

[vivid vessel]

ass and sub are better in keys

wdym

[orchid gale]

ya

i know

i mean i just wanna play dh but its kinda even worse than rogue

[rotund zodiac]

I’m addicted to fast-paced gameplay, I can’t go back to sub or sin anymore

stuck in outlaw jail

[jolly rune]

Would someone be able to look at a raid log and tell me what I’m doing wrong. I just don’t seem to be doing as much damage as I should?

[civic zephyr]

Is assa still the better spec?

[median herald]

Outlaw for m+ HO

If you ask me

[civic zephyr]

So outlaw is performing good this season i take it.

[wintry solar]

Sure

[rustic lotus]

Oh yah killing spree is the panacea of the spec. Fixes every issue we had previously

[split lintel]

Does cloak get rid of all remaining damage taken during ks or is it only if it's magic damage

[copper radish]

havent seen wow this active in a minute lol

so many people in dorn pvp area

[tulip jewel]

it clears the spree dot

[tawdry linden]

Ks gives you a dot, it removes that dot, doesn't matter what damage you took to get the dot

[wintry solar]

Doesn't work on emotional damage though that may be a bug

[civic zephyr]

My rogue is so fucked, I should just make a whole new one lol.

It was specced as Assa to level 80. And I just switched to Outlaw.

So my stats are sooo bad.

item level 510 lol.

[wintry solar]

Play kir

No haste

[tawdry linden]

Bruh, 510 is nothing man, just do some heroics and get some better gear and then mythics and the stats will be better

[sullen wyvern]

Patiently waiting for outlaw buff on today's class tuning changes for next reset guys. Can't wait to see how good we will get

[tawdry linden]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[pearl trout]

Today's hotfix:

• Outlaw specialization found dead in Miami

[tawdry linden]

Today's hotfix:

Outlaw was a April's fool gone too far, swapping back to combat

[sullen wyvern]

[shell fossil]

no outlaw fun, gonna do all my 12s wit outlaw now

but

we have a lot in common with shadow priest in df season 3

we just kinda channel blade flurry into packs and stuf

prly gonna do raid prog on outlaw for the foreseeable future cause idk lmao

[civic zephyr]

Trickster of fatebound for M+?

[shell fossil]

trickster has higher dps but fatebound works

[civic zephyr]

Trickster doesn't work? lol

[tawdry linden]

Trickster is about ~8% ahead, but you're playing with Killing Spree

[civic zephyr]

Exactly yeah

[shell fossil]

yea you might kill yourself on a greed

but then again the fella next to you is probably gonna go first so

might as well play trickster

[civic zephyr]

lool

[tawdry linden]

I am dying at least once per dungeon to KS lol... I am also to bad at sending it off CD and not waiting lol

[civic zephyr]

I just like how fast the spec is.

I need to get my vers and haste up.

Rn my highest stats are crit and mastery

[shell fossil]

yeah it doesn't feel like we're channeling mind flay while shadow fiend procs but ye

it's hella fun

[tawdry linden]

Rn Vers is worth more than Agi for me lol

[shell fossil]

got trashmaster's mantle today lmao

[civic zephyr]

Well I ran a regular dungie and didn't shit for gear, don't have money so I can't go to the AH.

What do I do lol.

[tawdry linden]

big

[civic zephyr]

I can't queue for heroics either

[tawdry linden]

you gotta do more dungeons, not much else to do

it drops 593 in normal dungeons

[shell fossil]

on tuesday 11.1.5 drops or whatever there's a lot of catch up gear soon

[tawdry linden]

Remember to get your ring from the Island, it's 658 (fully upgraded) and BiS

[civic zephyr]

Yeah I have it. Gotta get the rest of the gems.

[karmic fox]

!sim

[shell fossil]

buddy figured they could do vulpera holy paladin lmao

stonks

[silk stirrup]

Weekly world events, world quests, delves

[ebon reef]

[civic zephyr]

Man why can't outlaw rogues use daggers?

[ebon reef]

im using a dagger offhand

kek

[civic zephyr]

Ohhh

It's just mainhand can't use em.

I see.

I'm at Siren gonna farm for the currency and get the catch up gear, just adding the dagger made my item level spike.

[shell fossil]

idk pulling texture artists and modellers is cheaper than hiring design related talent

and the lizard cloning experiments as it goes

[glossy elbow]

Is there any fast way to get a 640+ ilvl main hand ? Just swapped from ass to outlaw

[shell fossil]

next week there's catch up gear

but yeah spark and gilded crests via 7's gets you a 675 mainhand

60 gilded and mats

[cinder haven]

Pvp maybe a possibility as well

Can’t remember what pve ilvl you can get for bloody tokens

Think they are veteran track

875 bloody tokens for a veteran track mh iirc

[wintry solar]

Ye

[glossy elbow]

ic thanks all, can someone help me look at my sims too, im simming for like 3.1m , but i ran a few keys and all are doing less than 2m , am i just bad at the rotations or its cause i have a 632 main hand ? thanks yall
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tBp8tSt2cm5wvEYtYcLjXC

[shell fossil]

bte looks low so you 're not getting great overall uptime

[cinder haven]

Someone has a lot of mastery

[glossy elbow]

yep i just swap from ass rogue T^T

[shell fossil]

if you have good procs via count the odds for example don't reroll, just use true bearing/broadside to setup for next string of cooldowns

[glossy elbow]

ok cause i was using the wa for the roll, and i think im using an outdated version i just updated it , so will see.

but ok so its not because of my shit main hand right ? and im just bad ?

[shell fossil]

downtime is bad on outlaw

if you're just building and spending finishers something is kinda wrong

[glossy elbow]

wdym

[cinder haven]

Ambush looks low

[shell fossil]

the more time you spend setting up adrenalien rush into rotation is bad

[cinder haven]

Builder prio is ambush > pistol shot > sinister strike

Looks to me that you are pressing pistol shot when you can ambush at least sometimes

Hard to say without a log though

[shell fossil]

sometimes i hold killing spree for example to get more crackshot time

letting adrenaline rush fall off is never a good thing i think

a guildie was chasing flawless form procs now that i mention it

lower priority cantrip

[glossy elbow]

ic thanks yall im gonna try again and get back yall :))

[mellow thicket]

KIR trickster m+ defaults to trickster vanish rules?

[sullen wyvern]

@gaunt phoenix how do you do first pull of ws as outlaw

it seems impossible

I see wox swapping to assa for that pull then hearting back and respec to outlaw

[cinder haven]

Yep

[quasi notch]

Guys im at a point where i need Cinder Flood Priory +15 Should i go Assa for these dungs or is outlaw still good for them

[cinder haven]

Brewery at least feels like I’m kinda trolling playing outlaw

[shell fossil]

good grappling hook usage makes them bearable but yeah the damage from the honey puddles hurts lol

[rotund zodiac]

RL freaks out when I KS

damn soak mechanic

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel wtf zeross hosting zeross

no way

[late swallow]

is devoker the ultimate bing chilling class?

you cast one ability like every 2 seconds

[vivid vessel]

wtyf

zerocool hosting zerocool ?

banger

[sullen wyvern]

zac

how do you do ws first pull as outlaw

please share wisdom with me

[covert kestrel]

inb4 press N and click assa

[analog fog]

U go assa

[covert kestrel]

LOL

[sullen wyvern]

yeah wox I see you going assa

I still need another dagger to go assa

and learn how to assa

shit is so undoable as outlaw

[covert kestrel]

oh taran you changed your prof pic

thank the heavens

[sullen wyvern]

I did, I remembered what you said

[analog fog]

Outlaw does healer dmg that pull

[sullen wyvern]

I noticed

[vivid vessel]

like any other pull

wdym

[sullen wyvern]

[vivid vessel]

just press buttons