nah ring scam
#outlaw
vivid vessel
jastor is decent
to replace the other one lol
proven ocean
nah i think ring might be a scam craft or?
vivid vessel
sim it idk \
proven ocean
i cant put a emb on ring
so it wont be good
im sure of it
need to get rid of elemental
mild bronze
Does anyone know when we get our first dinar
shut prism
im real bad in this spec so here come a dumb question, do i need always get 7 cp to use a skill or i can use it at 5?
keen belfry
ur telling me the pin i come back to is deft is bugged and its not that chill anymore
back to bricking random pugs as arcane!
glass mortar
🙂
keen belfry
desert tendon
awang
i m relearning arcane rn
i wanna swap back to frost
this shit is the outlaw gameplay but for mage, too much proc reac and all 
real mage otp spec
glass mortar
link a sim with the ring
glass mortar
check for the buff
desert tendon
i dont share
glass mortar
actually wait i might have one handy
sec
i lied my monks sims were top gear
i got no breakdown
desert tendon
but idk how to check when the stat got stolen and all that things
glass mortar
not sure what the buff is in sims tho
lime lake
that do be a buff
proven ocean
ring has to be insane for sin tho @desert tendon
proven ocean
right
glass mortar
its insane for everyone
it gives a fuckton of secondaries
sorry almost everyone
its not good for a few specs
some very rare specs
desert tendon
well it sims like
desert tendon
+1.7% vs a 665 crit mast ring
proven ocean
bro
desert tendon
so
proven ocean
its simming
desert tendon
it must be
lime lake
yeah its big
proven ocean
desert tendon
upgrading it to heroic is like +0.
desert tendon
+0.9%
proven ocean
gonna recraft prolly
desert tendon
but haste mastery ring
desert tendon
gonna be given to every caster in the game
glass mortar
desert tendon
before getting in my pockets
nah it doesnt steal secondaries
not like the thing from abberus?
i think that was
desert tendon
it just give you stats, then it can fail and give all your stacked stack to someone else
glass mortar
this ring stronger then the bonus effect of end boss of raid super rare cloak
thank god it has
7000000 mastery
desert tendon
like when they design a thing for casters they do haste mastery all the time
desert tendon
yea zero
imma say it zero
i think with more gear
bleed is better than forced induction
even in single target
proven ocean
desert tendon
do some test in tr server and tell us
lime lake
desert tendon
zero i wish it wasnt that strong no cap
desert tendon
maintening ct in st
proven ocean
also
lime lake
rip
desert tendon
and pooling for 50+% energy all the time
proven ocean
so
desert tendon
is no fun
proven ocean
??
desert tendon
desert tendon
who cares
proven ocean
bleeds will just expire
desert tendon
that s just padd
yea but u kn ow what s fun zero
on bleed build
you reapply bleeds
proven ocean
well bleed build u wont be able to play it
desert tendon
crazy right?
thin snow
proven ocean
like u mean im gonna have 20-30% haste or what
lime lake
i always knew censi was still a bleed truther
lime lake
bleed arrives all the same
desert tendon
go enhance
thin snow
u mean u guys aren't playing dk yet?
lime lake
every alt i play im having more fun atm
all those alts are ranged
maybe coincidence
maybe not
desert tendon
imagine .5 patch come
and not a single line on rogue still
imagine if it happens
what would u do
proven ocean
i'd say
next week
im gonna be rly geared for like
close to the highest keys
i'll definitely be 674 next week
lime lake
how high do you think people will be pushing this season
proven ocean
thats 4 ilvls below max
proven ocean
how high do you think people will be pushing this season
idk
desert tendon
idk
proven ocean
mdi it may be 26/28s
raven condor
imagine if it happens
no need to imagine lmao, at best it'll be a bugfix that lowers our damage again 😂
proven ocean
they have 20% avoidance
they can pull the entire world
lmao
anyways
idk about
retail
desert tendon
they have secondaries now?
desert tendon
i think
desert tendon
23 24 will be the highest
proven ocean
but
lime lake
thats kind of wild
knotty scaffold
how much did u sim in dunjon slice guys ? in outlow i mean
desert tendon
desert tendon
how much did u sim in dunjon slice guys ? in outlow i mean
idk but you shouldnt watch at the number in dslice
mostly use it for top gear and stuff
yea this variance kinda wild
i think it s as high as old outlaw
knotty scaffold
mostly use it for top gear and stuff
was for compare
knotty scaffold
like stats , talents , ...
knotty scaffold
look at devoker, top on a chart, bottom on the other
lol
lime lake
just float around shooting beams at shit
desert tendon
i cant help you i aint playing outlaw this tier so far 🤷♂️
knotty scaffold
pal prot first apm ? didn't know that
lime lake
pal prot first apm ? didn't know that
lots of ogcd spam
knotty scaffold
oh ok
desert tendon
like let s check fire mage from my guild rn
knotty scaffold
exper mode sim wtf sim that ?
magic shuttle
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5KSkBdzy2x7q7ahMWPUydF
does no gs sim higher in dslice hm
desert tendon
exper mode sim wtf sim that ?
just adding some custom stuff to the sim, dont pay too much attention it s nothing important
magic shuttle
or does that profile lackhaste for it
solid veldt
hello is there any M+ build without killing spree? that thing gives me heart attack
magic shuttle
lemme see how my profile compares for cto vs gs
glass mortar
look at devoker, top on a chart, bottom on the other
how the fuk is havoc even close to outlaw
knotty scaffold
covert kestrel
hello is there any M+ build without killing spree? that thing gives me heart at...
gotta learn to love it unfortunately
heart attacks are fotm
magic shuttle
although playing cto and pc can just feel good
glass mortar
probably the highest overall in almost every key tbh'
u just give up all ur moral values (boss damage) to do it
knotty scaffold
if i'm listening simbot outlow is playing without hast
magic shuttle
outlaw likes haste
knotty scaffold
what's the hast cap ?
proven ocean
jastor diamond wants you to have either high vers on other pieces as sub, or crit high pieces on sin
magic shuttle
18-20% for kir, ho can use that same amount of haste
magic shuttle
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4xSkEEHx9m63kyjc4etx7L
also since you don't run gs in that sim, ho can do with less haste
magic shuttle
it's a mix
kir for sprocket
first 4 can be ho
but i've been enjoying kir on stix
knotty scaffold
idk if i fucked all my stuff to get 20 % hast and go kir that why i'm looking for sim to compar
magic shuttle
my profile has 18-19% haste and simms well for ho
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dUSjHLyaKhEqFx32CJKjqi
knotty scaffold
you got 18-20 with the 10% bonus from hide or without ?
magic shuttle
without
knotty scaffold
that lot of hast
glass mortar
@fathom bramble did u play trickster on OaB?
we start it tomorrow
idk what to play
knotty scaffold
i'm realy at 9 % without
magic shuttle
i like to play both talent builds so this haste is optimal for me
knotty scaffold
glass mortar
the supercharger HO builds generally use a bit more haste but ghostly lets u have a bit less
i think u want more then 9% tho
but u can just trust sims
late swallow
If u play sub you don’t have to worry about haste btw
magic shuttle
just stack vers mastery
knotty scaffold
we arez toalking about outlow
late swallow
Yeah that’s your first mistake king
knotty scaffold
^^
magic shuttle
going above 9% haste won;t hurt you tho
desert tendon
how the fuk is havoc even close to outlaw
i dont know a shit about havoc but pvp
so
i cant tell
knotty scaffold
i just have loot it yesterday
desert tendon
glass mortar
feels like its impossible for havoc to be this high
knotty scaffold
may i gonna swap sub
glass mortar
do they have 100% haste perma now orsomething
glass mortar
oh tru i have a dh player in raid
can just look at logs
idk dh that well so filtering the nonsense might be tough
u seem like a big dh gamer censi
i will let u check
🥰
magic shuttle
btw if I upgrade this dagger with crests to max, will my 2nd myth track dagger upgrade for valorstones only?
desert tendon
glass mortar
so if u already have 1 item and then do the dagger yes
desert tendon
isnt half the shit here just passive
magic shuttle
do weapon types matter?
late swallow
btw if I upgrade this dagger with crests to max, will my 2nd myth track dagger u...
You need both slots fully upgraded for discount
magic shuttle
can it be a dagger and a one hander?
glass mortar
weapon types do not matter for this
magic shuttle
ok cool
glass mortar
just having the slot
glass mortar
yes but 90% of the casts in that tab r fake
depending on ur spec
simcs is usually at least somewhat accurate
desert tendon
and then selct the dude u wanna check
desert tendon
simcs is usually at least somewhat accurate
depends if they want to be accurate or nah
magic shuttle
but lets say I have a crafted 675 and upgrade dagger to 678, i can upgrade my 2nd dagger to 675 I assume?
glass mortar
yes
magic shuttle
ok cool
that's a future crest investment
got a lot of upgrades pending till then
glass mortar
oh it looks like the shattered souls is padding?
thats like 20% of their apm
and im pretty sure thats entirely passive
desert tendon
same
glass mortar
this is why i try not to use logs for this anyway
maybe only outlaw is this bad now a day
very real apm
💅
accurate to my personal apm
desert tendon
what s pad in outlaw
glass mortar
every crackshot spell is 2 casts
fathom bramble
<@101843879791177728> did u play trickster on OaB?
I played fatebound, but it's basically terrible for the fight
desert tendon
restless ?
fathom bramble
go trickster and just only cast KS in the last phase while effected by lust
or while cloak is available
desert tendon
there is more than that
i think ret is a funny one to look at
60% of the apm is pad
torpid fiber
Iirc I heard they fixed one of the Outlaw casts bugs but not the other
glass mortar
hand of fate also
torpid fiber
Either way, worthless stat
glass mortar
go trickster and just only cast KS in the last phase while effected by lust
can u really not press KS in the fight?
like do i just sent 1 cp ones
the whole fight
and yea fatebound looks like its gunna be fucking garbage
fathom bramble
no just watch your timers
don't press it if there is a coin bait in the next amount of time that KS will take
glass mortar
OH you meant only cast it during the last phase under those conditions
i read that as "ONLY CAST IN THE LAST PHASE"
fathom bramble
lol
hollow portal
+20 timed??????? outlawwwwwwwwwww
fathom bramble
yeah
glass mortar
ok more reasonable
fathom bramble
last phase the lightning ticks every 0.3 seconds
so you have to have KS teleport you more often than that
which is mostly only possible during lust
fathom bramble
you have lust for most of the last phase
and then you can send cloak instead
or just say fuck it and eat the damage
results may vary
glass mortar
i see well, we will see how it goes
kir fatebound on sprocket was not it
but that was mostly due to my own unique issues
glass mortar
mhm
fathom bramble
and has terrible cleave compared to trickster
glass mortar
and does infinitly less cleave
kinda crazy getting bodied in aoe and losing all its prio damage whenever theres aoe too
very good hero talent
glass mortar
its funny we played it a whole season and it felt fine, because it does feel fine
it does nothing for ur gameplay but give 5% proc rate
but thats only cause nobody but zac tracks lucky coin or was paying attention to their prio damage
lime lake
its funny we played it a whole season and it felt fine, because it does feel fin...
well yeah gameplay wise its fine because there is no gameplay
magic shuttle
Trickster is at least cool because unseen blades into coup gameplay loop exists
glass mortar
the flow of timing for coup + kspree between vanishes does feel way more engaging
its just a shame trickster has so many flaws as well
also important we remember since we are all praying for a rework and who knows what feedback they are reading
lime lake
rogue hero talents actually did just shit the bed
glass mortar
trickster has waaaaaaaaaay more issues then just kspree
kspree is just so awful it kinda blots out the sun
compared to the other issues
why is fazed even a debuff on a target if its "meant" to always be active for your other spells. Why is unseen blade so random and untrackable? this does not add anything to gameplay except occasionaly even trying ur hardest, u will proc a coup mid vanish and be angry
why is coup still an extended gcd
distract node (xdxdxdxd) just to name a few
but its definitly more engaging then fatebound design wise
magic shuttle
The distract node is definitely weird
Like I tried to figure out if there's any use for it
But nothing comes to mind
glass mortar
i mean outlaw can clearly never ever use it. there is no possible builds that would ever be able to play this thing
so its like, designed purely for sub?
but why is sub ever gunna use it
doesnt sech tech already apply the fucking debuff in aoe
cinder relic
why is coup still an extended gcd
it isn't
hasty warren
just discover we can evade rik pillar spawn lol
glass mortar
it isnt? can you cut it short? I was trying to dest it in dorn to see but i couldnt tell
dorns not a good place to test it ig
hasty warren
fight is way simpler like this
magic shuttle
Coup feels pretty snappy to cast after the bug fix
cinder relic
The entire reason the double coup bug existed was because we could act out of it in ar
glass mortar
yes i knew that, i thought when they removed the second coup they fixed that part of it to
cinder relic
because AR reduced gcd to 0/8
glass mortar
if u can still cut the gcd short then thats good
magic shuttle
Good point on unseen blade tracking tho, could use a buff icon and maybe a cool visual
glass mortar
its just very silly to me you cannot even track if your rng proc has readied a blade
i just wanna know if i can send a coup before vanish or not man
is that so offensive
hasty warren
y it's so cringe when I vanish at 3 stack and get coup proc during crackshot window
bright crane
So where does trickster fall on the boom meter?
fathom bramble
The entire reason the double coup bug existed was because we could act out of it...
coup is still 1.2 seconds they just removed the lock from it @glass mortar
the bug was because AR reduced it below 1.2 seconds and it only took away escalating after 1.2 seconds
same idea just at a different number
AR makes it 0.96 I think
glass mortar
yea
ok
that explains why the gcd still feels longer to me
its just annoying because it still feels slightly jarring, but before it was "fun" when it interupted the flow because you were spamming it for 2 gcds in a row for the big double hit
now its just 1 spell that interupts the flow then back to normal
its not a big deal, i think fazed and unseen stuff is more annoying
fathom bramble
actually maybe coup was lost after 1 full second and we slipping barely under with 0.96 seconds
not actually sure on that one
probably not worth investigating
daring oxide
last phase the lightning ticks every 0.3 seconds
i played HO SC Trickster PC on this fight, even with lust down I still didn't take damage, even with a 10cp SC KS i think
i think the haste as HO is enough
just about
daring oxide
bare in mind i do have 20% haste baseline cos i usually play KIR
so its around 35% with
daring oxide
with the haste buff thingy
fathom bramble
with both buffs up
daring oxide
but yeah as long as each attack with KS is below 0.2 seconds
0.3
i mean sorry
so like 0.29 would be fine
but as long as you dont KS teleport twice in the same spot?
fathom bramble
yeah looks doable as ho
daring oxide
i noticed it does that sometimes
fathom bramble
just have cloak up idk
daring oxide
i have cloak ready usually
fathom bramble
you can also probably survive 1 tick staggered to be fair
daring oxide
incase i get the tick
yeah i think so
its like 6mil damage
you could prepop feint as well
to reduce that further
i can run through it with feint and grapple through without taking damage
fathom bramble
do we know if feint actually works on it?
daring oxide
i assume so
i used feint and grapple and sometimes i take a weak tick or no damage at all
fathom bramble
it absolutely should work, but sometimes stuff just doesn't work properly
daring oxide
aye
fathom bramble
if feint works it's only like 3-3.5M damage over 8 seconds if you stagger 1 hit
daring oxide
yeah which is basically soothing darkness/leech healing really
fathom bramble
vanish heals for that much
daring oxide
crimson
vial
@fathom bramble btw is it just me or does crimson vial have a really short gcd after using it?
like 0.4-0.5seconds
i always feel like i can almost instantly use another gcd after using crimson vial
or @gaunt phoenix do you know?
cobalt mist
why is fazed even a debuff on a target if its "meant" to always be active for yo...
...what do you mean its random and untrackable?
cobalt mist
oh for some reason i thought that was only the sub version
just take flickerstrike instead 4head
:^)
glass mortar
xd
cobalt mist
it does proc unseen blade more often
honestly it was probably better than thousand cuts while coup bug was active
gaunt phoenix
like 0.4-0.5seconds
u crazy
glass mortar
thousand cuts also gives attack speed tho
and ud need a fight with consistent aoe damage every 5s + feint for all of them + track the icd on this thing
just to get mileage out of it
cobalt mist
which is it, there's too many swirlies to use killing spree or too few to use flickerstrike?
make up your mind outlaw players
smh
glass mortar
outlaw cant even spend that many blades tbh we go thru extended periods where we dont send a blade sometimes
well its not swirlies
ur never gunna have enough swirlies to make this good lol
i mean fights that just perma tick the raid every 2s and stuff
they arent uncommon at all, it just sounds super annoying to try to get mileage out of this talent
cobalt mist
yeah it would be
i dont think its ever even been simmed has it
like properly
(because how would you, even?)
glass mortar
would be tough to sim
gaunt phoenix
cant really model it
glass mortar
i guess u could assume that it can proc it on cd and see how that sims
and what the proper gameplay there would be
cobalt mist
have you ever checked what the dps gain would be on theoretical perfect uptime
glass mortar
but that would be like, the best case scenario
nobody ever getting that level of value from it
torpid fiber
Do sims not support raid events? Huh I guess fair
You'd have to mod simc to create a new "successful proc" version of the ability and use that only during a timer or something
glass mortar
yes but that aoe is not ticking on a 5s interval
even if a fight has perma ticking damage
u will not proc this on icd
cobalt mist
fair
glass mortar
it might be every 5 or every 7 or 8 depending on where in the icd the tick hits yafeel
but u probably could sim it to see how well it would work in a world where u procced it on cd
torpid fiber
Do sims not support raid events? Huh I guess fair
You'd have to mod simc to cre...
I should look into actually implementing some of the bullshit I talk about sometime so I know I'm not just misremembering docs
gaunt phoenix
i dont think the talent is implemented
glass mortar
yea ud need to hack it
torpid fiber
yeah defs
glass mortar
and honestly, i dont really wanna see this thingy being strong
it doesnt sound strong in my head
some things u are better off not knowing
proven ocean
sup cuh
supoutlaws
supchat
how u all doign cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
biggest outlaw in the history of +2 keys here 
gaunt phoenix
fwiw the thousand cuts attack speed gain should be minimal. cause we go from like 195% to 185% atk spd
glass mortar
heck yea devastation delves here we go
i need to learn to play this new flameshaper bullshit
ancient cobalt
what if blizzard lets u have multiple campsite squads
like this is my main + playable alt campsite
i go to my mount farmer campsite .. etc…
ruby gale
what if blizzard lets u have multiple campsite squads
They already do
It's a button in the top right
full geyser
!craft
covert kestrel
I'm thinking about leveling a second monk/rogue just to farm the veteran/champ tier pieces for the tier this set, both are so cool and I want them all
ancient cobalt
It's a button in the top right
omggg
vapid sundial
Boys I think it might be over for me.
Haven't had the itch to login once since I stopped 2w ago
Last season of 99s on enhance and title will be my legacy
Gg
vapid sundial
Real
peak dock
is it possible that wow has my old monitor cached somewhere?
peak dock
monitor config
what does monitor cofing has to do with wow
peak dock
let me try to explain
vapid sundial
Not rly no, unless you used the same wtf folder and everything
vapid sundial
I think he means like, ui size n shit
proven ocean
idk
peak dock
every first time i launch the game it has like the old resolution configured (the new monitor has a diferent resolution) so it looks weird
until i close the game and relaunch it
peak dock
suicide?
proven ocean
pick ur correct monitor+resolution
if it fucks up re do it again
idk how it would change resolutions everytime u open wow
sounds new to me
fathom bramble
<@101843879791177728> btw is it just me or does crimson vial have a really short...
it's kind of a longer than normal GCD since AR doesn't reduce it
vapid sundial
peak dock
after that it uses the correct resolution
fathom bramble
idk if your like confusing me or something
but vial does almost feel faster for some reason
glass mortar
i would say go check logs
fathom bramble
spelldata says 1 second idk
proven ocean
just the first time i launch it
make sure ur desired monitor is ur main monitor, otherwise dont pick (primary), pick the specific monitor, eg: monitor 2 or monitor 1
not primary
glass mortar
let me see if i used vial in any of my kills last night xd
celest hearth
Yo outlaw still using KS?
celest hearth
Doing my monthly check
glass mortar
yes
glass mortar
ope i found a vial cast
lets see if i was out of range or actually doin my rotation
wasnt in melee rip
vapid sundial
wintry solar
Adrenaline Rush but everything it does and doesn't reduce the GCD on is swapped
glass mortar
hmm
wouldnt be exactly 0.8s if it was hasted tho
i doubt u have exactly 20% haste
or wait 0.8s would be, assuming our baseline 1s gcd
25%
just like the amount AR needs
did u have all ur haste buffs up in that pic?
slate plaza
if you guys get ks on flarendo during beam
do you just send at 1-2 cp
or hold iot for max cp
fathom bramble
if you press it at all you will take an unliveable amount of damage
if you want to you can cloak before the tick of stagger kills you
and just send at full cp
slate plaza
1-2cp keeps me very close to my natty position no?
slate plaza
i sent it at max cp
slate plaza
then it inflated my healing meters cuz i died LOL
first itme i do that mistake
last time too
slate plaza
its just random
gotcha
glass mortar
ok but try it with no haste buffs
fathom bramble
true
glass mortar
yes
torpid fiber
every haste buff and still basically 0.8 seconds
ig important question here is if weran is a masher or a queuer
fathom bramble
at zero haste
robust topaz
what's this (':
gaunt phoenix
@daring oxide u not crazy
gaunt phoenix
i have a few .6 or .7 casts
fathom bramble
okay I got a 0.65 with drums and stuff on
very strange
wonder how long vial has been hasted without anyone noticing
I can't even find what part of the spelldata tells me if something has a hasted gcd or not
glass mortar
thats cool
gaunt phoenix
there isn't a way to tell, it is server side
glass mortar
(remove it from the gcd already)
this ability doesnt need to be on the gcd
honestly very surprised they moved feint off before this
slate plaza
honestly very surprised they moved feint off before this
vial?
glass mortar
yes
torpid fiber
your fingers are perfectly attuned to a 0.8s interval
yeah this was my theory
gaunt phoenix
i was not serious
gaunt phoenix
mayb
i have a .656 cast but my haste shouldnt allow that
34.51% haste with take em+alac
torpid fiber
Are you checking haste in stats or doing the maths
fathom bramble
so rude to put both "ignore healing modifiers" and "always allows negative healing percent modifiers" on crimson vial
gaunt phoenix
in stats
fathom bramble
healing can be reduced but not increased
wintry solar
That's so mean wth
fathom bramble
it's fairly typical of % life heals to be fair
but imagine how good of a self heal it could be if it was increased by healing% modifiers and could crit
slate plaza
normal to pull less dps on kir fatebound than ho trickster on carnage?
covert kestrel
Normal as in skill issue?
glass mortar
yes
you have less cleave during the small overlaps and kir is substantially harder to play in st
lets be honest
slate plaza
you have less cleave during the small overlaps and kir is substantially harder t...
its easier to cruise on but def harder to min max
slate plaza
Normal as in skill issue?
dps isnt a skill issue lol
covert kestrel
dps isnt a skill issue lol
sounds like it to me
glass mortar
is it harder to min max tho
daring oxide
<@105752825878843392> u not crazy
Bro I knew it
glass mortar
only minmaxing u do is using 10% of ur brainpower to calculate "do i kill the entire fukin raid if i press kspree rn"
glass mortar
very enjoyable gameplay
slate plaza
is it harder to min max tho
i know ho like the back of my hand and the basics of kir, gotta learn the min max
maybe ho is harder to minmax
kir is just rtb usage honestly
daring oxide
I swear it felt like vial had a proper fast gcd for ages and I didn’t really think to question it, it just felt like I could follow up very quickly with another gcd
glass mortar
idk kirs cp bar just takes more brain power to use
daring oxide
But I’ve been using it much more recently cos of killing spree to heal the tick
daring oxide
And that’s why it’s really caught on for me
covert kestrel
HO u can almost not track ur CP
glass mortar
it really is the fury warrior version of law u have so much cp gen, u can scuff ur builder rules constantly
and it doesnt really matter
daring oxide
This makes vial quite a nice def cd to use if the gcd is hasted to be lower than 0.8
glass mortar
small cp mistakes on kir are way more costly
daring oxide
I swear I’ve had vial be like 0.5gcd
glass mortar
I swear I’ve had vial be like 0.5gcd
i mean theoretically
dawn talon
just bc im used to it
glass mortar
if our gcd is coded the same as normal specs
0.5s is the floor
and ud hit it at 100% haste
fathom bramble
well I've been reading spelldata for 40 minutes
and global cooldown stuff is all random
idk what's going on here
some specs have a list of everything that is hasted
daring oxide
I’ve been feeling vial was a bit off/fast since the start of this tier cos of killing spree stagger encouraging me to use it way more than before
daring oxide
idk what's going on here
No idea either haha
glass mortar
i feel like that might be a leftover
and blizzard uses a new gcd system or something
dont spec auras have a "gcd" spell in their spellbook
fathom bramble
wouldn't surprise me
glass mortar
or some nonsense on the backend
fathom bramble
spec auras have a gcd thing for azerite abilities it looks like
so that your azerite matched your GCD
daring oxide
Well only thing they should do going forward is take vial off gcd imo
fathom bramble
and some spec/class auras have a gcd thing for their abilties, but others do not
daring oxide
Since it’s basically almost off gcd
glass mortar
they made templates for everything else so it would make sense to use a template for gcds
daring oxide
Or feels like it at least 😆
glass mortar
going thru for each individual ability and modifying it if u change something
daring oxide
Now that it’s confirmed vial has a super fast gcd I’m gonna use it way more
fathom bramble
there doesn't seem to be a family flag that is doing it to vial either
idk it's just hasted
torpid fiber
Is this also true on other rogue specs
fathom bramble
I think we had this problem with vendetta a while back and it had to be manually added to simc
since the spelldata failed to do it automatically
daring oxide
Is this also true on other rogue specs
I’d assume so
But outlaw probably has the most haste of any rogue spec right now
Especially as ho
fathom bramble
does anyone know if the new vendetta is hasted
daring oxide
HO SC
fathom bramble
Deathmark
daring oxide
does anyone know if the new vendetta is hasted
Death mark?
Hmm
No idea personally
fathom bramble
guess they got rid of that when they removed vendetta
slate plaza
is there a way to keep buffs ahead of the container after i reroll once
or does everything get sent int ocontainer
fathom bramble
pretty sure the only way to have them not be in the container is to cast KiR or have a very low duration container when CTO gives a proc
except when stuff just randomly isn't in the container for no discernable reason
glass mortar
is there a way to keep buffs ahead of the container after i reroll once
reroll before they are under 40s
grim spear
gg
glass mortar
thats why the rule for kir says to send that first rr when they hit ~41s after extending a 5 buff
fathom bramble
would be nice if they adjusted fatebound to not lose a ton of prio when there are adds up
if it's going to have less cleave anyway
late swallow
KS fatigue
prisma sapphire
too much BS
and now that my guild's on lockensprock
have to have like a bunch of shit regeared for fatebound ST
covert kestrel
gg
join me in the brotherhood of grim codex enjoyers
its like playing 1gcd of survival every 1min 30
late swallow
grim codex for the survival flavor
hollow quarry
general question, if i craft an item say wrist, and i get a drop for wrist. I should be able to upgrade to same level without crest righ?
gaunt phoenix
ye
but rings/trinket/weapon it depends on the lowest of the two slots you have
so if you craft 675 ring you cant upgrade another 675 ring free yet
grim spear
this looks so cool
glass mortar
is that the dk tier
grim spear
yep
vapid sundial
that boss just does nothing tho tbf
its litearlly how well can the few people needing to do stuff learn what to do
And super scripted, no?
surreal flower
ya lmao
vapid sundial
Literally an FFXIV boss
surreal flower
cinder relic
LOL
compact cave
!log
shell fossil
anyone else think they might tweak theater of pain
the timer is a little low and forces a skip for most groups it feels like
late swallow
ToP is tuned fine for comps with actually good classes
shell fossil
kinda feels like deathrolling
torpid fiber
!haste
ornate heathBOT
Total stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.
*But Haste has a **requirement ** because 
Adrenaline Rush lowers your GCD based on it, down to 0.8s at 25% haste.
The 
KIR build wants 18-20% haste from rating, because its only haste buff is from 
Alacrity.
The 
HO build meets this requirement with 8-10% haste from rating because of 
Take 'em by Surprise, but the new HO + Supercharger build continues to like Haste just because of energy, so you will have to sim. Your sim may settle for KIR-levels of haste (~18%) or slightly lower.
You need to use 
Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use.
You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.
normal crow
!haste
So how likely is it that the gear i am using for Assassin will fail to work for outlaw
minus the daggers
torpid fiber
uhh idk sin stats rn
normal crow
Crit and mastery
torpid fiber
You need to hit your haste cap, and mastery is dogshit st
normal crow
so the crit will work, but any mastery i have is worthless
torpid fiber
p much yeah
normal crow
Which means i will need to pick up at least a few alternate items
torpid fiber
Although, crit will fall off a bit if you're on a trickster build bc it has so much bte crit already, so sim it etc.
normal crow
I just want to test out the fist weapon and mace i have picked up lol
but i don't want to fail hard at the spec due to a stat issue
torpid fiber
yeah unfortunately outlaw stats rn are super cringe
normal crow
And the don't work at all with the other two
torpid fiber
🙂
normal crow
I might be better off testing sub over outlaw for the moment
even though i do have a fist weapon i stole off of an ogre hehe
had to go full deadpool and saw it off his wrist with my knife to get it
But he did tell me i would have to take it from his cold dead corpse
Ok thanks Vvevv, i gotta call it a night
torpid fiber
np
I wish I could have given you a better answer
Haste cap is dumb and sucks for gearing
frank finch
is blizz getting ddosed again?
cinder relic
Im chillin
frail veldt
Can you evasion the slam on rick reverb?
frail veldt
yeah
cool good to know
someone was saying its not 100% but Im guessing they just werent facing the right direction or somethign
drowsy jacinth
I've never had it fail, just remember you have to pop before ks if it lines up
river wren
!bug
ornate heathBOT
[Outlaw bug Thread](#1276315296159760467 message)
quick ember
how much targets can Killing spree hit in one cast?
frail veldt
killing spree hits one target
drifting bone
!haste
ornate heathBOT
Total stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.
*But Haste has a **requirement ** because Adrenaline Rush lowers your GCD based on it, down to 0.8s at 25% haste.
The KIR build wants 18-20% haste from rating, because its only haste buff is from Alacrity.
The HO build meets this requirement with 8-10% haste from rating because of Take 'em by Surprise, but the new HO + Supercharger build continues to like Haste just because of energy, so you will have to sim. Your sim may settle for KIR-levels of haste (~18%) or slightly lower.
You need to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use.
You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.
random stirrup
mugzee dead, can finally go back to sub 
sharp sand
S3
craggy barn
huge
lime lake
pray there are no barrels on future bosses and you'll be fine
cinder relic
man it's so funny playing warrior
sharp sand
I just pugged mythic rik for 3 hours and got 15% best pull
lime lake
why do you hate yourself
jolly geyser
grim spear
The number of pulls doesn't matter — what really counts is the total time spent. --max
vivid vessel
but thats only cause nobody but zac tracks lucky coin or was paying attention to...
There is another gameplay element btw, that I think most don't know about
You need a cancelaura stealth /cast adr, to cast ADR from stealth otherwise it break the coins
So fatebound added me a bind as well 
lime lake
Lmao I forgot about the fucking coins breaking stealth
vivid vessel
It's not about breaking stealth even
It's that if you don't do that
The talents that gives +1 coin don't activate
lime lake
lime lake
We pay for this game
vivid vessel
Cause the from stealth moment is when you have the most chance to proc capstone so
grim spear
You need a cancelaura stealth /cast adr, to cast ADR from stealth otherwise it b...
what's that means omg
vivid vessel
Right
grim spear
.
vivid vessel
Idk ask the devs
grim spear
so just cancelaura stealth, not subterfuge?
Will we have "stealth" buff many times during combat? I'm not sure.
vivid vessel
Ye
No
Idk
I use a separate macro
Cause I don't wanna fuck up my normal ADR usage if that would ever happen idk
grim spear
I need a foot pedal.
jolly geyser
soon outlaw players will be death metal drummers with pedals
vague cape
gentlemen, we have a situation - got a vers / haste wep in vault vs a socket for my mainspec. gonna wait to see if I can get 2nd boss wep on reclear but the question is: How much worse are weps with stats compared to last 2 weps? cartel chips coming / we'll be killing mug in not too long and gally after
grim spear
just sim it