pvp

[potent pivot]

wish we got an illusion like that

a black glorious tyranny

[crisp shadow]

true, I would love to use it but it being that small keeps me from using it xD

[hexed karma]

void shield from priest

[jolly sierra]

so, after reset is assa playable in deathstalker safely till 2k3 CR? i really like it more than FB xdd

[potent pivot]

its been "viable" this entire time

its just dog shit to play

between the Mark bugs and being locked to 20sec CD target swapping

[jolly sierra]

though the mark was fixed

[potent pivot]

nope

it still bugs

[jolly sierra]

didnt they had a marked for death now?

[potent pivot]

they did

doesn't stop it from bugging

[jolly sierra]

fuck

well gotta try myself xd

[ocean thunder]

I want to test it to be honest

though my dmg profile has hardly few evenoms

How can you actually measure what's the dmg boost of fatebound? it's like math sorcery

given the lack of data in this expansion

[potent pivot]

by going off of sims

while keeping in mind pvp mods and uptime disruption

[gleaming sentinel]

@spring bough @gusty hedge There i did it

crisp 4-2 on the law

[spring bough]

Hell yeah. TRIPLE CROWN. 👑

https://tenor.com/view/drie-ice-cube-drie-vingers-three-fist-fight-gif-10170829

[gleaming sentinel]

gotta dig my sub rating out of the gutter in bgb

starting 0-2 put me at 1100 mmr game

[potent pivot]

so are we all leveling mages now or

[gleaming sentinel]

so they get nerfed? lol

[potent pivot]

well that won't happen until i fully gear one

Isn’t .7 like a week away

Or two

Almost 3 weeks damn

[spring bough]

Never touching mage lol

[gleaming sentinel]

yea my dumbass barely can play outlaw

no shot i cna play mage

[potent pivot]

Fire is fun

Frost is zzz

Well, fire used to be fun

Idk how it is now

[severe helm]

Fire plays a lot like sub rogue

Frost is more like a traditional caster

[potent pivot]

feral already lookin kinda good

[rough rock]

combust being shorter is fun

but its pretty bad unless doing 3s

[outer sky]

Apparently theres a bug with mages where they can counterspell nothing and it will apply the lockout to every spell school their target has. Somebody sifted through their combat log to see what was going on and it looks like this

[dark kernel]

L M A O

[abstract stratus]

is anyone having issues connecting to game server?

[molten hedge]

i am rn

[stiff cedar]

balances out the bug where if you land CS you still give them precog even tho that one school is locked out lmao

(small indie company ig)

[potent pivot]

[dark kernel]

is this one of your arena partners who discovered that?

[outer sky]

no but hes complained about it

i thought it was cap

[dark kernel]

I welcome our new MAGE GIGA S++++ tier overlords

[stoic spruce]

Wrong

[severe helm]

blizz just in a competition to one up themselves on how much they can fuck the game up

unforced error

[copper maple]

What classes do you guys enjoy besides rogue right now?

[outer sky]

Most of us arent even enjoying rogue

[copper maple]

I'm kinda enjoying it. I was thinking I'm gonna be disappointed cause I haven't played with 5 sec Blind until now, but it's not as bad. Damage is there, bit less cc (but still good in sub), survivability is fine if you can pre-feint stuns (satisfying when you do). One thing I don't get yet is why it feels like everyone so often just ignores the poison slows and just runs away.

I wanna finish leveling and start gearing my disc next, has been my second most played class after rogue for a while. But it still feels a bit confusing with much less defensives to play with. Rapture is gone, Dome is seemingly not used by anyone. I also loved Mindgames since Shadowlands, looks like a dead talent too.

[grave basin]

uh dk, sv hunter kinda, frost mage

other setup based specs

[copper maple]

Is dk considered one?

[grave basin]

yea?

frost especially?

[copper maple]

Frost seems bursty, but I thought unholy is more about consistent pressure. Maybe it's different now.

[grave basin]

unholy dk is just green frost dk at this point

all your damage is in CDs you have zero consistent pressure

[copper maple]

Interesting

[grave basin]

plus DKs have the coolest plate mogs (imo)

pretty cool if you ask me

better than w/e piss rogue got

[copper maple]

Yeah, visually I've always loved dks.

[proven kayak]

Sv hunter

[molten ore]

hi im new to assa rogue im 2k cr going into 2.2k mmr lobbys for the opener is it sap healer garrote then rupture garrote then kidney then cds or am i cooked ?

[dark moon]

That is partially true. They massacred my poor claas

[dark moon]

On 3 separate occasions I tried to make the elite rogue set work and that was wasted gold

It's disgusting

[boreal briar]

Feral

[dark moon]

Feral and also demo lock, but demo it very sad in pvp

Tbh I cannot not enjoy rogue as I've been through thick and think with that class, my class. But having to lower standards in recent years for some backsided enjoyment

And im micro dosing pvp compared ti last season where I was playing all the time, different classes etc

[harsh kiln]

feral

[jolly sierra]

fkn rogue set is shit this season in elite, lock got the peak tints

[dark moon]

Lock set is absolute BIS

[jolly sierra]

but btw midnight s1 elite tits are very ugly all but that one

[jolly sierra]

ret

[dark moon]

If there are elite set collectors - lock is a must have or regret later kind of deal

[jolly sierra]

yep agree

i must level up one with timewalking week soon tho

and use the single button rotation XD

[latent spoke]

bump

[static holly]

Is there only one assa build in the pins or am I blind?

Thought there are like 3 options

[dark moon]

There are 2

Options

[dark moon]

Don't think anyone plays deadly

Its either wound or wound amplify

[harsh kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/mundays-mondays-monday-no-get-your-ass-kicked-gif-17445127

[latent spoke]

sorry i meant assa with dtb

[static holly]

Kk

[latent spoke]

dang, people play without crippling?

[jolly sierra]

how would ppl play without the main snare source

oof

[copper maple]

Lots of feral enjoyers here, makes sense. Switching forms kinda put me off a bit, never really tried max level feral. Also I feel like I haven't seen ferals in shuffle, maybe like one.

[static holly]

Oh man assa is such a healer unfriendly spec

They just drop like instant

[potent pivot]

no?

think i already answered all this yesterday

no1 plays deadly, its not good. dtb/amp aren't that great

[latent spoke]

More opinions always welcome, im more interested as to why that rogue barely takes a dent in the clip tho, that's been unanswered

[potent pivot]

It was answered

[potent pivot]

#pvp message

[wanton breach]

every single assa rogue I saw in shuffle over the last 3 days was playing some weird DTB SD build and most of em were using amplifying over deadly (which is even weirder to me)

[potent pivot]

If you run DTB you would take amp but DTB is meh

People are just copying icyveins type shit which is troll

[latent spoke]

does void shield also give some dmg reduction then? He went from full hp + 40% shield to 80% while this combo should've done way more

[potent pivot]

Why should it have done more exactly

It’s just a dance

[tepid peak]

so, fatebound still do more damage?

[wanton breach]

no damage reduction, just a big shield

[latent spoke]

I think i usually down rogues to 20% like this

[potent pivot]

Yeah

[latent spoke]

could be just no crits aswell i guess

[wanton breach]

I'd never give up zoldycks, especially not with SD

[wanton breach]

here the tooltips for it

[jolly sierra]

i watched the build here and at least in DS ppl give up in zoldyck

like why is good af for pressure

[potent pivot]

Ye same but look at all the people trolling on murlok

Last expansion not a soul would even try DTB

This expansion it’s on icyveins and I can only imagine it proliferated from there

[wanton breach]

how so?

[dark moon]

No, but crippling goes without saying

[potent pivot]

?

[dark moon]

Isn't akro also using dtb?

I saw him on stream

Don't know if it was trolling, but people are copying what r1 players are using

Which is normal

[jolly sierra]

that is normal

ive playing in herald instead templar with my ret because i felt more comfortable

ppl is just picking templar

that is the reason i asked yesterday for DS builds tbh

i felt can play better like that

[dark moon]

I have more success in lobbies with dtb. Somehow opting away from it makes me do zero pressure

Maybe its a placebo

[potent pivot]

zold gives kb/bleeds more pressure where it matters

and dashing gives a lot of energy

[jolly sierra]

yep, basically

[potent pivot]

https://x.com/i/status/2059591737027280974

BuaLock (@BuaLockOW)

DESTRO BUFFS ARE HERE! DESTRO BUFFS IT WILL BE S+++++ TIER OMG DESTRO BUFFS GUYS WE WILL DPS RACE WITH ENHA SHAMANS GUYS DESTRO BUFFS OMG OMG OMG OMG 60% CONFLAGRATE & 30% INCINERATE YOOOOO LETS GOOOO DESTRO BUFFS BTW
@WarcraftDevs
thank you guys for making my class viable again

X · May 27, 2026, 11:05 AM

[jolly sierra]

alright gotta go in destro w single player rotation when i play with the lock in BGR XD

[potent pivot]

apparently its doing less than before the buffs idk

i did watch a couple destros try shuffle yesterday and it looked rough

[dark moon]

Ye I understand, it's maybe a mental angle on my end

[tepid peak]

u talking about smth like this?

[potent pivot]

with dashing

[dark moon]

Cause I can't seem to lower them to the point of zold

[potent pivot]

huh

[tepid peak]

and where u taking 1 point from so

[potent pivot]

rapid

[jolly sierra]

bruh

XDDDDD

[potent pivot]

?

[jolly sierra]

how does less even after buff

sounds like ppl is clickbaiting

[potent pivot]

no

[jolly sierra]

saying its good

no what

[potent pivot]

he's being sarcastic in the tweet

with all the 'its s+++ blah blah'

[jolly sierra]

thought was another dalaran level clickbait like ppl usually does F

[potent pivot]

he's just trollin

[jolly sierra]

can i just go demo then?

i feel slacker

[potent pivot]

i'm not sure which is best in shuff rn

affli got really scuffed in the rankings

because every1 was exploiting lmao

[jolly sierra]

oof

should i just go RBG instead?

[tepid peak]

so its basically pure bleed build with 2 poisons that suppose to activate huge pressure in execute range

gonna check it. looks interesting

[molten ore]

anyone tried ds with assa or sub

[potent pivot]

not worth

[molten ore]

thought so

[spring bough]

How’s rogue today

[gleaming sentinel]

both dh specs feel pretty strong

[spring bough]

Devourer a good time. Haven’t tried havoc with the buffs yet

[static holly]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-sick-ventilator-dying-gif-786943353167798403

[potent pivot]

think havoc is decent now

on my dh rn

[gleaming sentinel]

in a double dh frost mage assa lobby and this mage

i'd swap to the target hes on full bleed

he sheeps

so i go the other guy

he sheeps

so i type, "who?"

go back to the toehr guy do a big go

he sheeps

https://klipy.com/gifs/so-pissed-3

[static holly]

Obvious, he picked as kt

U

[potent pivot]

at least he casts sheeps

L0l

[gleaming sentinel]

[spring bough]

Mage throwing hard then prob blaming u 😭

[copper maple]

Was this the moment that you respecced? 😆

[gleaming sentinel]

i just started going healer and left him to die

i got a clean 2-4, 6-0 devourer

[potent pivot]

watched trim in a lobby earlier with a void elf male frost mage

maybe 2 blocks in 6 rounds

maybe 2 sheeps

[static holly]

One button assistant maybe?

[potent pivot]

it was rough

[copper maple]

Ain't nobody plays void elf male, can't be real

[potent pivot]

wha

[gleaming sentinel]

I swear frost mage is the new ret paladin

like the variance in skill is so crazy

[spring bough]

Body type 1* come on Man U signed the social contract

[gleaming sentinel]

[potent pivot]

i signed nothing

[spring bough]

Let me tell u something

[gleaming sentinel]

very important change, much needed, very wow

[spring bough]

Trickz just got a warning he’s one more away from the ban bots smh

[gleaming sentinel]

male night elf enjoyers wya

[potent pivot]

my fking mouse binds keep resetting

shit is starting to piss me off

[copper maple]

Not bad unless you're playing a caster

[orchid swift]

Im starting a rogue alt from feral maining this season boys. Whats the way to go? Sub in bgb and assa in ss/3's?

[potent pivot]

yea

can sorta play any spec in shuff/3s

equally miserable experience usually

[orchid swift]

Oh no lol is rogue not doing great?

[potent pivot]

its 'ok'

sub is rly good for blitz always

[orchid swift]

Seemed fun coming from Feral looking from the outside in

[molten hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-face-you-get-what-gif-24340177

[copper maple]

Was Shadow Dance ever a class tree talent or I'm making it up?

With sub tree having the second charge of it

[potent pivot]

Ya

In DF

[copper maple]

Did it last long? I've only played a bit of DF

[potent pivot]

Wdym

Like the dance duration or how long did we have it

We had it all of DF iirc

[copper maple]

I mean when they removed it from class tree

So in tww?

[potent pivot]

I don’t remember for sure

I stopped playing after DF s3

[copper maple]

I wouldn't mind it now on assa 😄

[spring bough]

It got removed at the start of TWW

[potent pivot]

SL and DF had scuffed s4’s

[potent pivot]

It didn’t really do much

Subterfuge is the same thing basically

[copper maple]

BfA last season was ridiculous

[potent pivot]

I want exsanguinate back

[copper maple]

It's not terrible with two vanishes and meld, but still

[potent pivot]

And Vendetta tbh

[rose ridge]

VE Male here. Less go

[potent pivot]

Deathmark is ass

[copper maple]

I had some fun cheesing random 2s games with a friend, me on sub with duel and him on assa.

[rose ridge]

Vendetta was peak during legion

[copper maple]

BtE was peak in legion 🙂

[potent pivot]

Current assa just isn’t designed for pvp at all man

Fucking m+ spec forever now

[copper maple]

I heard rogue isn't that good in m+ anymore cause of utility

Some aoe cc was removed

[potent pivot]

Well everything is just an m+ spec now

That’s not a rogue only problem

It’s a game wide design problem

[potent pivot]

Rogue has aoe blind again now

They recently changed that back

[copper maple]

Not bad then

[potent pivot]

It still isn’t great

Compared to like

VDH, unholy dk, Aug

But it’s plenty viable

Phys comp etc

[rose ridge]

What’s a good comp for sub rogue in 2s? Druid?

[potent pivot]

Just any healer really

[copper maple]

I feel like m+ doesn't really appeal to me. In terms of pve I'd rather kill some badass bosses, not be looking at numbers in details on a trash pack

[rose ridge]

That’s all it is now

[potent pivot]

Can probably cheese hard with void priest

[grave basin]

ok so

is havoc insane now

both dh specs just omega S tier

[copper maple]

It's probably always been this way. But I feel like I wiped on m+ bosses more than on trash in legion

[potent pivot]

idk about insane

but its def good now

[grave basin]

seeing whaaz play against one and he's running the tank 5 second lasso stun

[potent pivot]

i watched mvq do some 3s earlier

with petk/montage

it seemed alright but nothin crazy

might've just been held back by hpal though

i'm always surprised at how little haste havocs run

makes me want to try running high haste

[rose ridge]

What’s yall haste for PvP sub rogue? Is there a certain percentage or no?

[copper maple]

200 I believe

Or a ton more 😄

[potent pivot]

4 set + insignia trinket gives you all the haste you need

it can depend on what bracket you focus

like in blitz u need badge, and can run 1 extra haste piece

if u only shuffle higher haste can be good

[rose ridge]

I run a lot of blitz

[potent pivot]

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

• Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Haste>Crit
• Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
  You want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw to lower the GCD during Adrenaline Rush. (25% for Trickster for energy)
• Subtlety: Vers>Haste to 200 OR 600-700>Mastery>Crit
  Sub now uses a haste threshold to extend Dance and shorten Secret Technique's CD.
  Sub haste rating chart:
  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923898501529600/1483399511836725378/image.png?ex=69bc6d33&is=69bb1bb3&hm=21db8524f3add252a5f7556c91a39c6d076b5cbf29926a0ff3de6f1dad996660&

[rose ridge]

Thanks, Trickz

[potent pivot]

the main breakpoints are ~200 and ~700

just stick to the ~200 for everything if u blitz a lot

but use insig in arena/badge in blitz

next ssn hopefully we can run 700 for all content, with more secondary stats from gear

[tepid peak]

does assa have same haste treshholds?

[potent pivot]

no

it can play the 200 haste fine if u want to use same gear for both

but assa has no threshold interactions

[tepid peak]

oh, so its still better have 200 haste than dont have it

[potent pivot]

wha

no

[grave basin]

vsed a havoc and he went 5 1

i hate them already

[copper maple]

As it should be.

[quick temple]

is making a Drackthyr rogue bannable

[jolly sierra]

what

why

[quick temple]

i made one to meme but honestly like it now for some reason lol

[spring bough]

Bout to regear my DH

[spring bough]

Double jump and glide OP for blitz

[quick temple]

yea i gotta find an excuse to warrant it ha

guess racial is another interrupt too

[potent pivot]

idk but it doesn't feel that great to me yet

maybe its just my gear atm

feels like nothing i press does much dmg, but there's a lot of reaver pad

[spring bough]

Gotta get that 90% mastery lol

[potent pivot]

soulscar/wounded quarry do a big portion

so far

[potent pivot]

yea i basically have to fully regear

[spring bough]

My Devourer half haste half mastery

[jolly sierra]

ye why should it be banneable then

[spring bough]

I gotta get a bunch of new gear and recraft pieces to mastery lol

[quick temple]

i was joking cus i bet some ppl would be appalled

[static holly]

It kind of feels like if you play a Rogue and aren't a Night Elf, you're making things unnecessarily harder for yourself, like you're putting yourself at a handicap. Don't you think?

At least for arena. Blitz can work if you are lucky and get good maps

[potent pivot]

nope?

that just isn't a thing anymore

can play so many races rn

[jolly sierra]

fucking night elves

[quick temple]

NE def super good tho especially for Assa but not mandatory i feel

[potent pivot]

orc, human, gnome, highmountain, nelf

[jolly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/elves-chad-dwarf-gif-25266189

out of joke

[tepid peak]

its feels dope when u have 3rd option for garrote n cheap

[jolly sierra]

you can reach 2k3 without too much issues tbf

if you have experience

[static holly]

Ofc not

🤣

I often only push till 2.1

That enough for me

[quick temple]

yea idk this ssn i get tilted so easily

goin for 2.3 slowly

[static holly]

Maybe... The season is still going and could be possible if I play here and there a round. At least through blitz for me..shuffle is next lvl for ke

[tepid peak]

tbh nothing change between 2k and 2.4k in solo shuffle
pretty same games

[dark moon]

Apologies if it has been asked earlie, but, how's rogue today?

[quick temple]

with the MMR injection you see some goofy stuff

[potent pivot]

nothing's changed

[static holly]

Yeah don't ask... Pushed assa on 2 chars and wtf

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-vibe-music-gif-24311169

[static holly]

Was fun but healers went afk. Mages didn't used CDs or quit

So much fun 😑

[molten hedge]

Whaazz is cooking on the feral

Destro still looks dogshit

[tepid peak]

everything is fine till blizzard decide to buff surv hunters

[static holly]

Didn't see sv any yet

[quick temple]

i faced a mage that kept dying, like quickest was 15s that i killed him lol

this round was 1:05 and he managed a global of cc

[spring bough]

?

[molten hedge]

Is my thing not loading? If it is that’s hilarious

[tepid peak]

i met 1 in shuflle and thats was aids game. since hpala isnt meta u keep punching between sv roots and sv bleeds dispel
thanks to the mr.warlock who decide to take all the damage on himself and left shuffle with 0-6
this hero saved my ass

[molten hedge]

He made a funny

[potent pivot]

#pvp message

idk why its doing that

[molten hedge]

Ohh. Yeah I saw that hahah bua

[potent pivot]

i guess he deleted the tweet or some shit

[molten hedge]

I wonder why hahaha did you see that last lobby the destro was doing a little more than Nahj on DS sub

[potent pivot]

the last lob whaz was in? ya

i also checked one of the lock's streams earlier and it looked bad

they def need more help than what they got

all the lock specs seem ass imo

even if they're viable, the design is utter shit, like affli design rn

[molten hedge]

Yeah affi is annoying to play. I still have fun on it but damn. I got elite then logged of it

It sucks when your entire spec can be countered by dispel lol

[dark moon]

How's demo after the buffs?

[molten hedge]

I haven’t tried it. I’m sure Jazggz is trying it rn

[wanton breach]

tuned into his stream just to see unc playing aff 🙁

[dark moon]

He's playing affli, boring

[molten hedge]

I have fun on affi sometimes. If it’s full melee on ruins or some shit it’s a nightmare especially with shamans

[molten hedge]

Lmaoo ig that’s your answer

[potent pivot]

the way the entire spec is just hardcasting UAs now just feels super clunky

no MR at all

[spring bough]

Chicken shawarma falafel sandwich for lunch and some homemade baklava to go with it 🔥

[outer sky]

I think it would help a lot if they just removed the soul shard cost from Jinx

[molten hedge]

Yeah and it sucks also bc you’re already global capped and having to use jinx to put dots up so you can’t send as many UAs feels bad too. And the only thing not on shadow is dark harvest which doesn’t even feel that great to press on a 1 min cd

[molten hedge]

THANK YOU

I liked being able to cast malefics from 100 yards away it was funny especially with how you have double gate now.

[spring bough]

MVQ hasn’t tweeted about havoc yet

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-care-forget-it-no-gif-20897153

[spring bough]

It must be good since he isn’t tweeting about it lol

[potent pivot]

“Good but not better than dev”

Is what I’m hearing from everyone

[spring bough]

Dev is still insane

[grave basin]

i cant get into dev for some reason

[spring bough]

I’m playing surrender with collapsing star. Second I get to demon form someone usually dying

[grave basin]

i feel like someone just trades into my meta

and i cant do anything

[spring bough]

Just takes a lil longer to get to 100 souls lol

[grave basin]

but im playing vs

not caster

[spring bough]

Try anni star build with surrender

Dmg is stupid lol

If u do a star into eradicate into an instant devour that’s like 50% + of someone’s health

Just get a cc off right before and Gg

[grave basin]

yea but if they notice youre caster spec r1 youre getting trained all game though?

[gleaming sentinel]

I don’t really understand why people don’t train them anyway

[spring bough]

Not really

And you can run and kite ez asf

Just get someone Los if you are meta and they are dead

[potent pivot]

the healing shit they got recently is kinda busted

plus infinity glimpses

makes it giga annoying to train them

but if you notice they're running 0 vers, they just fall over instantly

[jolly sierra]

once i played against trimaz and guy looked like he was tracing the 40y distance with his mind when he played his mage

he ended 6-0 never watched something like that wtf

[gleaming sentinel]

devourer is such bad design idc

[outer sky]

Its lazy

reskinned havoc buttons

[spring bough]

The healing saves me everytime lol

[dark moon]

1st spec that with the introduction of requires complete overhaul

[quick temple]

because they have like 5 glimpses and 3 blinks lol

[potent pivot]

idk a lot of people seem to like it

[gleaming sentinel]

devastation was almost exactly like this on release

just 1 tapped people

[dark moon]

they like it because its op, the second it gets nerfed shit will hit the fan

[wintry dew]

like everything ain't it

[potent pivot]

no i mean like the broader design. especially in pve

[dark moon]

its really dull in pve, too at least imho

bm hunter with extra steps and big punishment if u fail star cast

simply not good

[spring bough]

🤦‍♂️

How is it hard lol

I literally spam 3 buttons that have no cast channel macros so the second void ray is done eradicate sends 😂

The only “difficulty” in pve is knowing when to cast star if mechanics are coming up and if you think that’s difficult you got other problems lol

[potent pivot]

i think this is the self reporting mentioned above

[spring bough]

Whoever posted that is delusional lmao

[molten sentinel]

small question bois and ladies 🙂 why do i shiv into kingsbane and not kingsbane into shiv? iam buffing kingsbane more if i shiv after kingsbane or not?

[outer sky]

shiv does nothing for damage

[potent pivot]

the world first devourer dh is delusional... noted... LMAO

[potent pivot]

you don't shiv at all

[molten sentinel]

i apply poison which buffs the kingsbane dot or not

[potent pivot]

no

shiv does not increase nature damage anymore

[outer sky]

Old mechanic

[potent pivot]

and shiv only applies non lethal poison

[spring bough]

Yes. Defending a broken spec. “Don’t nerf us this rotation is actually complicated. Hardest in the game, okay?” okay 3 buttons lmao

[potent pivot]

no, it isn't

the guy is a mage main

[gleaming sentinel]

Oh no I have to kinda wait a sec before I collapsing star a big pack

[potent pivot]

the self report part of his statement is so golden

because apparently its widely true

lmao

[dark moon]

we do understand this is rage bait, right?

[potent pivot]

Ragebait rooted in truth 🤫

Spec might not have many buttons, but that’s not all there is to it

[dark moon]

that's just general talk, have you played it?

[potent pivot]

Skill ceiling is still high

[spring bough]

[potent pivot]

Yeah?

[spring bough]

Add one stop channel macro to all the abilities and it’s ez pz spec

[hybrid sapphire]

Good morning rogues did they buff Assa yet

[spring bough]

I heard deathstalker has stonks

[potent pivot]

Why are you lying

[spring bough]

?

[potent pivot]

No one said that

[hybrid sapphire]

real news not fake news

[spring bough]

[potent pivot]

Bruh

The skirmish breakdowns

No one is gonna play that shit

[gleaming sentinel]

Everyone playing deathstalker confirmed

Thanks trickz

[hybrid sapphire]

why does wowhead make it so hard to find the latest patch notes hoadfghjkasdfg

idgaf about 12.0.7 I LIVE IN THE PRESENT

[potent pivot]

?…

Why is it always the yellow names

Smh

[jolly sierra]

i am the "everyone"

https://tenor.com/view/inefablejuly-monkey-holding-a-skull-reflecting-shakespeare-gif-12160732804828180693

[spring bough]

What did we do

[outer sky]

Dev DH 0-6 jfc

[gleaming sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-true-josey-wales-the-outlaw-josey-wales-that's-correct-clint-eastwood-gif-10841579246084138232

[spring bough]

Must be a hard class

[ionic crown]

deathestalker sub so good

[spring bough]

Is that the lowest overall dmg from that lobby too?

[outer sky]

no, 2nd

[spring bough]

Dev DH should be doing the most 9/10 times lol

[outer sky]

I mean I was watching his stacks and making sure to kidney his meta

[spring bough]

Once more realize playing surrender to the void is the play it’ll get harder

100 souls for meta but once u get it you sit in meta for a full minute or more lol

Plus it’s 10% Inc dmg everything slaps

[grave basin]

anyone knows if there is a way to get psyfiend alert?

like only specifically psyfiend

[spring bough]

Mini CC?

[outer sky]

I thought that was just a damage amp + a fury regen buff

[hybrid sapphire]

is it nostalgia or were more comps viable like 5-7 expacs ago

[grave basin]

dont think theres a way that minicc only shows psyfiend

[spring bough]

Yeah. 10% Inc dmg and fury regen is insane. Never runs out

[copper maple]

A lobby with rsham and disc and every round against a ret there's a full duration BoP.

[potent pivot]

[ionic crown]

trust me

[potent pivot]

its never gonna happen bud

[ionic crown]

i got shuffle #4 as sub with deathstalker

[potent pivot]

not doing much to change my mind with that ngl

[spring bough]

Bump that to 1 maybe Trickz will become a believer

[ionic crown]

i cant cuz im bad but nahj uses it too

[potent pivot]

he logged out as DS on 1 rogue

[spring bough]

Nahj u say?? 👀

[potent pivot]

testing does not = better

[proven kayak]

6-7 expacs ago

[potent pivot]

"is deathstalker better?"
"no, it is dog shit"

-nahj

smh my head

[spring bough]

Fake news

[ionic crown]

idk why i think it feels good 🙁

[rose ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/cap-doctor-meme-gif-23263243

[potent pivot]

Check his vod 🙃

[outer sky]

every lobby today has just been one trap dps going 0-6

[rose ridge]

Best race for rogue? Nelf, human, orc and troll right?

[outer sky]

I dont think troll is even on the radar

but its probably not bad

Nelf for assa

[hybrid sapphire]

nelf (male specifically)

[outer sky]

then pretty much anything you want for the other specs

[outer sky]

Don't you mean "Body 1"?

[rose ridge]

lol

[hybrid sapphire]

body 1 specifically*

body 2 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[spring bough]

Reported “I don’t like it” button was used

[jolly sierra]

troll is peak

in aesthetics

[hybrid sapphire]

zandie troll is hot af not the other ones

[jolly sierra]

jungle fem one is peak too if you choose the face right

btw seems like trickz will end banning playing DS on this thread XD

[potent pivot]

Gnome is also up there

[potent pivot]

Naw

[spring bough]

+5 base energy with gnome too good?

[copper maple]

what gems do we gem besides the pvp one?

[gusty hedge]

i know this hunt

[spring bough]

Tell him to get Gud and start one tapping people pls

[static holly]

I really hate this blitz pinata sometimes 😑

3 rogues on enemies team...

[spring bough]

Minimum 2 rogues every single blitz this season for me

It’s getting annoying lol

[static holly]

Tried to peel and help FC but 0 chance

We lost last minute 😭

Hope I have some better luck tomorrow. Actually wanted to start going for elite

[potent pivot]

Whatever your best stats are

Mast > vers gems for sub/assa

[copper maple]

I figured I should pick mastery vers one

[gilded gulch]

i dont think troll has ever been good

[static holly]

Shorter snare duration or so

[gilded gulch]

....does that even matter

[static holly]

It depends

[gilded gulch]

the funny thing is we literally have a better version of that in the class tree

thats not even taken often

[static holly]

Overall NE / Orc are our best picks

[static holly]

I would not say that. Depends on map / comp

[gilded gulch]

yeah maybe rbgers

[potent pivot]

not for rogue naw

[gilded gulch]

was a pve race for casters

for some time

[potent pivot]

ik

its good for arms in pvp rn

[gilded gulch]

arent they all gnomes

[potent pivot]

nelf is completely useless for outlaw and sub

[spring bough]

What if trolls haste racial has some synergy with ADR and we just don’t know cause no one plays it

[potent pivot]

outlaw is too now

[gilded gulch]

huh

[potent pivot]

gnomes decent ig

[gilded gulch]

i assumed outlaw would just go orc

[potent pivot]

nope

[spring bough]

Human for extra stats >>

[gilded gulch]

human feels better for tanky classes

like dk

play double dps trinket

only downside of that is if you eat a silence or disarm

[spring bough]

Should I do this on outlaw for shits and giggles

[analog tapir]

woop woop

[spring bough]

Grats!!

[outer sky]

What is this sorcery!?!?!??!?

[spring bough]

@gusty hedge new gif drop

[static holly]

Restealth is always good. I would not say useless. Maybe not as good as in DF but defensively helpful

[copper maple]

do zug zug classes with aoe stuns ever look at drs?

[snow anvil]

No

[copper maple]

I'm looking for them to end and the warrior goes "nah, 2nd dr shockwave"

[snow anvil]

Why would they

[copper maple]

to like... win the game

[snow anvil]

Hmt charge into shockwave

[copper maple]

potentially

[snow anvil]

Into stormbolt

Why isnt my rogue stunning

????

[potent pivot]

It’s just not even close to the better options

[gilded gulch]

you forgot the tauren rdruids

who love panic warstomping

[spring bough]

Absolutely not just send it on CD fk it

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/fran-healy-fran-healy-travis-travis-band-gif-15032562239152162810

[spring bough]

Did that work lol

[gusty hedge]

no 😂

i see a dog for a second then nothing

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kung-fu-ai-orange-cat-fight-gif-8725930490492900021

[spring bough]

It’s loading for me idk 😭

[gusty hedge]

[gleaming sentinel]

My boy so good at rogue even his messages vanish

[spring bough]

How bout now

Tell me it’s not vanishing still lol

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-punch-cat-boxing-cat-punch-scream-gif-3528160909335068330

[spring bough]

How many of these do you have lol

[gusty hedge]

[copper maple]

I switched back to sub and now have more stuns

and new ways to tilt

someone will always do some shit 2nd dr stun right before dr ends

and we lose

[severe helm]

why give them the opportunity

always fully dr people in your go

[copper maple]

maybe it's time to embrace the zug too

[spring bough]

All I do in shuffle is

ZUG

[potent pivot]

You don’t always get to

But yea

[gleaming sentinel]

Ngl I just kinda send dances and eventually get the cross cc before the second blades and win or lose by then

[severe helm]

sure but def should try to

to reduce the grief opportunity

lol

[gleaming sentinel]

You can get trinkets sending a dance on the off target or healer pretty often

Just don’t waste the shadow blades dance in my experience

[potent pivot]

Lot of swapping rn too yea

[copper maple]

At least in sub I actually feel like I'm doing something that can win games

assa was just pveing and hoping something dies on the enemy team before yours

[fathom crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiqNBpvcJI4

any of u watched it

[dark kernel]

I would rather eat glass than both play or watch classic arena in its current iteration

While in understand a certain fondness for it, it is PAINFULLY antiquated

They were fun back then, they aren't fun now

[fathom crag]

classic is good because if your 100x better than someone ull win in 1 min

when on retail u got these devourers glimpsing around doing nothing but damage

but my heart is w retail forever

all the friends here etc

[dark kernel]

Yeah, the same is true in retail there are just a LOT better players in retail by margins

[copper maple]

I'd probably uninstall the first time I get my Kidney randomly dodged or Blind resisted.

[dark kernel]

On classic yeah you can perma cc lock someone who fucks up

[copper maple]

Those small % chances of something failing are annoying. Like the old Cloak too.

[dark kernel]

That's because you can ONLY trinket one specific spell in one specific cc chain or you end up CCd for 40 seconds straight

[gleaming sentinel]

Yea bro, honestly outside of Pres and devourer PvP is actually pretty fun rn

[fathom crag]

yea i think retail gna be good now

after last reset

https://www.twitch.tv/hydramist/clip/MuddyYawningCakeResidentSleeper-g9rwccBaEvigOmlE?filter=clips&range=all

this is mental for exemple

shuffle healers would be crying

[potent pivot]

Huhhh

I think it’s kinda the opposite for assa

[copper maple]

Understandable reaction from Hydra lol

[copper maple]

less cc, less peels

[gleaming sentinel]

Ok so watching that video… I’m sorry but I don’t want to go back to classic style with down ranked spells and shit

[gusty hedge]

id rather go back premidnight

hasnt been as fun since

[potent pivot]

Ye but good consistent damage and burst

[potent pivot]

I think it’s less about mechanics like lower ranked spells or dodging/missing spells

You actually had to think about what you were doing in pvp back then

They’ve kinda made the entire game into m+ and it sucks

[gleaming sentinel]

Yea I can agree with that

[gleaming sentinel]

Idk I really like the game rn mostly. Trying to pug m+
As outlaw is a nightmare though

[severe helm]

looooooooooooooooooooooooooool

[severe helm]

thats what im doin

catching up slowly

just have to carry keys man

I almost feel guilty helping people time a key who are barely doing like 130k dps overall

like you dont deserve this to be timed

[gleaming sentinel]

Ye I guess, I’m so close to 3.4 tho just wanna get that done

[gusty hedge]

i cant get off law dont have fun doing pve , attempted the solo route
wpvp is deader than its ever been! slowly losing interest! not fun

[severe helm]

for some reason it got easier as I got higher in IO

[gleaming sentinel]

Yea I think I missed the rush. It’s total Wild West 3.2-3.4

[severe helm]

theres just nothing new in wow rn

this xpac has been the biggest nothing burger ever

[gleaming sentinel]

But I’m enjoying shuffle and bgb a lot

[severe helm]

apex talents are a whole lot of nothing

might as well be tww s5

but with shit addons

[gleaming sentinel]

Yea

[severe helm]

most of this xpac has been a downgrade

pvp balance sucks ass

mmr has been shit

every patch has more bugs

[gleaming sentinel]

My man is cooking rn

[severe helm]

its like an objectively bad xpac

not that you cant have fun

but like, they did not do a good job

the quality is low

[gleaming sentinel]

I kinda have agree, even from the bugs alone

My god I was trying to jsut mine today in Q and couldn’t loot the minerals

It would just bug out

[severe helm]

I got loading screen bossed

stuck for like 10 mins yesterday

[gleaming sentinel]

So bad man

I’m still in that sweet spot of being newish to rogue but starting to really Improve so it’s fun at times

[potent pivot]

Did you see his retail clip at the end?

[gleaming sentinel]

Killing the Pres in a global?

[potent pivot]

The not connecting to anyone for an entire minute

[gleaming sentinel]

Yea dude

The glimpse icon going off every 5 seconds

[copper maple]

good burst, but can't really set up your team like sub to turn this burst into a kill

so it's more of just pveing ur enemy

[dark kernel]

I still think midnight is better than all of war within so far

Class balance issues still.

[potent pivot]

Neither could outlaw when it was good

[potent pivot]

We’re getting really close to repeating TWW s1

Where feral is just the best rogue spec again

[dark kernel]

During that season my baby was about 3 to 6 months old so it's literally a blur

I remember I just tried and hit duelist the very last week of the season and I played pretty sporadically the rest

[potent pivot]

The game was fun don’t get me wrong

But they nerfed kidney cd and left maim 20sec

Which is also still the case, only now we don’t even have Cheaps

After the cheap changes it feels very hard to justify playing rogue over other melee

[dark kernel]

Yeah I felt that

[outer sky]

Maim is 30s

Has been for a while

[hybrid sapphire]

no one else sneaks around like we do. dont say hunter

[potent pivot]

Ah did they change it literally this season

[outer sky]

No

They changed it shortly after nering kidney

It was 30s most of last xpac

[potent pivot]

11.2

So only the last season of the expansion

[outer sky]

Same diff

You also knew this

Btw

See

[potent pivot]

Ye I prolly just forgot

[outer sky]

^

[potent pivot]

Barely touched my druid since tww s1

[outer sky]

Ye

I havent even

Leveled mine

[potent pivot]

What’s your point lmao

[outer sky]

Maybe I will

[potent pivot]

Yeh

Starting to seem like it’s going to be better again

[cobalt vector]

I’m usually a feral main. I just wish bite would actually do something. When they changed the apex I was hoping it would actually do something now

[potent pivot]

Yeah that’s probably ferals only drawback rn

Very similar to assa tbh, envenom is kinda ass for years now

[cobalt vector]

Funny though, I’m really enjoying assa. Although I should gear my feral up

Maybe itll feel better in full conq

[rose ridge]

what are some goood macros for burst?

shadow dance and shadow blade?

[hybrid sapphire]

the sweats here r gonna tell you to never macro anything

[potent pivot]

You will want a separate dance bind either way so it’s not really worth

[rose ridge]

shadow dance and sectec?

how about that one?

[potent pivot]

Sub is so simple now

[potent pivot]

Naw

Sometimes you dance for cc specifically or just don’t want tech to be the very first global etc

[rose ridge]

True

[molten hedge]

I’ve been using the One Button with castsequences and shot up to 3k

[spring bough]

Homeownership sucks some days yall. Got the damn service techs out on emergency hours for my furnace

Reset switch tripped. Hit it. Furnace fires up and boom nice puff of smoke out of it 😭

[quick temple]

should always look somethng up to see if its simple

ive done a ton of service tech work and like 30% of it is literally turning something on

[hybrid sapphire]

bourgeois

[spring bough]

Not when I have smoke coming out of my oil furnace 😂

[quick temple]

true, if its simple and not scary ha

jus so many jobs going to ppls houses and hitting the on switch on their disconnect for the solar panels smh

$300 for that

[outer sky]

Only things that are really safe to macro for sub are badge trinket if youre playing it and orc racial if youre orc

[spring bough]

I’ll drain the line when I get a fill up and air gets in it but that’s about it lol

Whole basement smells like oil right now 😭

[potent pivot]

Things love to start working again the second a paid service person lays a finger on them

[spring bough]

Not this time. This is gearing up to be a big bill I thinks 😭

[outer sky]

This is my wife's car

[spring bough]

Had a dead mouse next to it like a week or so ago when the reset switch started tripping. Praying it just chewed an ez fix wire or something

[outer sky]

But thats partially because she doesnt take care of it. Shes at 110k miles and still hasn't had the spark plugs replaced

My F150 has never given me any issues

[spring bough]

[potent pivot]

I gotta do mine

Bought them weeks ago

[outer sky]

I did mine last month at 98k miles

[lucid citrus]

alacrity or badge for sin?

[potent pivot]

Either is fine

Insignia better for overall dps

Badge is ok for burst

[spring bough]

Bout to play double dps trinks on my rogue 👀

[gusty hedge]

@spring bough

[spring bough]

Que some shuffle get that elite lol

[gusty hedge]

one of these days

[gleaming sentinel]

This is end of season activity! Boy Q up

[hybrid sapphire]

what is this

[gusty hedge]

Wpvp addon

[spring bough]

Ima DL it soon but I need a horde rogue so I can go on the hunt

https://tenor.com/view/elmer-fudd-elmer-bugs-bunny-movie-bugs-bunny-movies-the-bugs-bunny-and-roadrunner-movie-gif-10082276702093848665

[gusty hedge]

horde was getting dominated so i decided to use my undead rogue 😂
sucks u need an invite to shard/phase over to the action because not many on tich cluster have it, more on Rp realms and sargeras area 52 cluster

[spring bough]

I’m on Tich

[gusty hedge]

yeah tich cluster is dead for this addon, it has a built in shard/invite tool for people in the community to group up and phase over to fight where everyone is at

[lime oar]

that we aren’t getting banned guild is annoying as hell

[gusty hedge]

yes! if they are seen hordes of ally will come to kill them lol

[lime oar]

you can’t even kill them

they use some immunity exploit

[spring bough]

🤔

[lime oar]

legit can’t be stunned or damaged just full on immune to everything

[gusty hedge]

not in a small group but yeah they use every world buff toy ect to get away even que phasing when it fits,
i was fighting with them(not in same group) earlier and a bunch of alliance came outnumbered and killed us all

avatar of blood world thing they all are using

stuff that can be considered exploits but its on blizzards end so they dont get banned technically , they abuse it lol

[potent pivot]

Wanna know somethin funny

[lime oar]

what is it tricks

[potent pivot]

That exploit works in arena and blitz too

[dark kernel]

Emerald dream is the Homeland

[potent pivot]

[lime oar]

wtf

[molten hedge]

EXPLOIT DN

[lime oar]

is it hard to pull off because i haven’t seen that yet

[potent pivot]

Ik how it’s done

But I’d never do some pusso shit like that

[potent pivot]

Not really

[lime oar]

that’s wild lmao

[potent pivot]

I’m sure ppl have used it in unrated

But likely too scared to use it in rated

That’s like insta perma ban territory

[spring bough]

Furnace is fixed. Had a bad ignition transformer and a couple other small things. Nice $600 emergency hour fix 😂

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

Coulda been worse lol

Last time I had them come out for an emergency the furnace flooded my whole basement that was a couple grand

[potent pivot]

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/news/us/updated-may-27-add-the-omnium-folio-to-your-library-of-tools-against-the-void-24277442

These look like they’re going to be aids if they work in pvp

The return of renown and conduits

[spring bough]

What if they only do a 50% nerf for rated PvP 😂

Shit we about to have some fun fun for once

[potent pivot]

I haven’t seen anything saying they will be disabled in pvp yet

But they probably just forgot about us either way so who knows

[spring bough]

Actually wild if it’s fully unnerfed in PvP

I’m gonna take off patch day if that’s the case and game till they hotfix it 😂

[potent pivot]

We might be able to check on PTR

But it probably requires doing quests on the PTR to test them

[spring bough]

No thank you to anything having to do with the PTR lol

[hybrid sapphire]

posting this now because it may be my peak all season. stay tuned

[spring bough]

love this game. hit buy on something on the AH as a que popped and it auto declined it somehow LOL

[fathom crag]

cant wait for that with awful details not showing dmg properly 🙂

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

got my first killing spree KB of the season on a mage too

feels so good seeing a mages health just go bye bye

[gleaming sentinel]

[hybrid sapphire]

just got legend. time to unsub

[gleaming sentinel]

strategist farm now

then gladiator

[frozen walrus]

Can Echoing Reprimand trigger Opportunity?

[gilded gulch]

holy shit

how do people at 3k blitz still not know

to hit a stunned healer

????

[spring bough]

is blitz looooolll

[gilded gulch]

also i love how all these people think rogue is some magic fix all

[gilded gulch]

idk if i can handle that

these players making me want to

[hybrid sapphire]

when i did blitz ppl just assumed i could ninja any base at any time

idiots

[potent pivot]

That talent is tuned horrendously bad

[spring bough]

I’m getting 2v1 or 3v1 between GM and farm calling for help and somehow when I get none it’s my fault I lost the nodes

Dealing w a rogue ret and MM like yeah let me solo all that real quick

[fathom crag]

3k blitz is like 1800 arenas

[gilded gulch]

"Why didnt you ninja a base from a mage and ret that have everything"

type of thing

[fathom crag]

and sometimes even in the highest lobby in the game ( 3450 eu highest so far ) ull get some 70 honor lvl guy highest 1750 in arenas but got lucky in placement game and won all

cant even blame them, its blizzards fault with their shit mmr system

[gleaming sentinel]

bgb joke bracket im sorry. super fun game mode when its competitive and the matchmaking is good

but the mmr swings are so insane

[frozen walrus]

I have been messing aroudn with it

Does about 15k dmg

Do you think the 1 extra combo point adds more than 10-15k?

[potent pivot]

100%

[hybrid sapphire]

@outer sky lemme borrow ur lock rq

[outer sky]

I'm using him rn

[hybrid sapphire]

wow brotherhoodless

[jaunty osprey]

W, highest assa world 3s

by 100 cr

[hybrid sapphire]

wtf

grats

[outer sky]

lmfao this game sometimes i swear

212k meteor

[visual inlet]

this is what should happen to every mage when they fight a rogue

https://imgur.com/a/lIfHgna

[gilded gulch]

how does a mage even die to a rogue

genuine question

[grave basin]

genuinely how is this even possible

[gilded gulch]

12 skyreach

[grave basin]

yea this was a 12 mc

and we still timed it

by 3mins

crazy

[gilded gulch]

The shaman was the 218

btw

[grave basin]

one button rotation should flag you in lfg

[gilded gulch]

i feel you can do more than 65k

with one button rotation as ret

at 282

i got 2k on ret in shuffle with it

it basically uses divine storm if theres more than 1 red nameplate

rather accurate of most ret players

[grave basin]

probably just floor pov every boss

and completely wrong build

[gilded gulch]

wasnt floorpov

i think thats the worst part

[grave basin]

did you time it

[gilded gulch]

yeah

[grave basin]

giving the ret free myth gear

[dark moon]

Sub is so nice in there

[gilded gulch]

Well the tank actually pullled big

its just bosses took an hour with 2 dps doing like 40k

[dark moon]

Even with good dps, sub shines in skyreach

[potent pivot]

[raven trench]

do sub rogues go 2pc or 4pc for RBGs

[potent pivot]

4

[raven trench]

ah ok

i saw Seth at 3k+ going 2pc

and extra vers mast crafted for the worse stat slots

i wasnt sure if that 4pc was good for pvp

since it seems really pve heavy

[potent pivot]

ye its good

[copper maple]

Realistically, how much do those thing actually matter to an average player? A bit of stats here and there, the gems and small enchants.

[potent pivot]

it doesn't matter very much for anyone, but if its easy enough to do everything correctly, why not do it correctly

people definitely overvalue little things like that though for sure

[copper maple]

I agree, but that's why I also don't pick the most expensive versions of gems or enchants for example. +2 mastery on a gem won't change much.
Good thing we don't need to cap different stats to actually make our abilities land anymore. I've played too much 3.3.5 so this stuff is just stuck in my memory 😄

[potent pivot]

all of that stuff is very cheap now

[copper maple]

Some enchants are like 5k gold and I don't have millions and neither do I farm it though, buying the most expensive ones will eventually make me broke

[grave basin]

ez gaze

[outer sky]

Blue name huh?

Gave up on the assa dream?

[potent pivot]

do some WQs

[copper maple]

I started this expac on sub, played some assa because I randomly got very high mmr on it. Then I started slowly going down the rating. Went back on sub yesterday and actually climbed for once. Now I'm nearly the same rating on both, around 2k 😄

[outer sky]

Ive been meaning to try deathstalker sub

[potent pivot]

[copper maple]

Btw, had won rounds where our disc out damaged me on sub, feels weird.

[outer sky]

Was he a voidweaver?

[copper maple]

Don't remember, but he was kinda freecasting on tolviron and I was running around dancing on people here and there.

[outer sky]

If he was a voidweaver then thats normal

For him to out damage you

[copper maple]

And if he wasn't?

[outer sky]

You should probably be doing more

Ive seen low rated shuffle lobbies where peope just let the void disc free cast and he tops damage for the whole lobby

[grave basin]

just train the vw

[severe helm]

Yeah if a vw is fully free casting they almost always top DPS

At least should

[outer sky]

Yeah that usually works but it can get complicated when theres a sub rogue or a ret on their team

The sub rogue can peel you like crazy and the ret just alternating sac and sanc plus filling in externals gives the voidweaver a lot more breathing room

Mage and lock can make it annoying too but in my games so far vs void, sub and ret really enable them the most by far

[outer sky]

I played this the other day it was disgusting

Disc was void

We played like 8 games and won 7 of them

I still reported the tank when we were done though

[copper maple]

Is that an add-on or there's some website with match history available?

[outer sky]

Addon

[static holly]

How on earth do you manage to win blitz?! It's kinda impossible this season. So many morons, no ones listening or they don't care, idk 🫤

Calling anything or ping doesn't help

[outer sky]

This is true for both teams though

One of em has to win

[static holly]

Had silvershard mines and all went lava 😑 or on arathi last round the went all lm 🤣

2.1 mmr but seems like it doesn't mean anything anymore. Thought ppl would be a bit smarter or can read

[outer sky]

Thats literally like non existent mmr for blitz

It starts to get a bit better around 2.7-2.8