pvp

[upbeat fable]

you can do that?

[mystic tundra]

Winning games gives an upgrade item. Get 5, combine. Use that item to upgrade weapons/trinkets to 298

[upbeat fable]

ohhh word, until then tho prob still use 298 pves?

[outer sky]

Oh good they nerfed null shroud

@potent pivot thoughts on the Deathstalker buffs?

[spring bough]

Nothing 😂

[hybrid sapphire]

good

big???

[potent pivot]

Meaningless

[outer sky]

I thought so too

[grave basin]

Takedown damage reduced by 25% in PvP.
Damage of all spells and abilities increased by 6% in PvP.

Its over

[potent pivot]

Depends on the stats

[grave basin]

6% of 0 is 0

😭

[potent pivot]

If you have 298 vers mast daggers you can just use those forever

If not, you can replace them with the free conq daggers and upgrade them

Then craft and upgrade vers mast ones later

[outer sky]

Covlol says he thinks these are very good changes for surv

And that dude is biased af

[grave basin]

Its good for lobbies where you can play sent and prayge your chakrams + bomb 1 taps ig

[potent pivot]

They’re not

[grave basin]

If you have to play PL its gonna feel like ass

And you play PL alot since bm is so meta

[outer sky]

I think most Survs are playing sent though right?

Mmm

[grave basin]

Its lobby dependant

You play sent when theres no pet specs

Cause the chakrams bounces to too many npcs

Loses all its dam

[outer sky]

Ah dumb af mechanic

[grave basin]

Yea

If you catch one person solo with it, it.chunks

But if it bounces to 50 imps then 0 dam

and the sentinal mark proc im 90% sure can proc on any random imp too

Bloodlust and Heroism from Shamanism now increases haste by 15% (was 20%) in PvP.
Resolved an issue causing Malestrom Weapon spenders from Thorim’s Invocation during Doom Winds to deal more damage than intended

This is a big fix

Apparantly thorims is 30% in pvp and it was doing 100%

[outer sky]

Bigdam says enh will still be s+++ tier broken

[grave basin]

Must be nice going from s++++++++++++ to only s+++

[molten hedge]

interesting. he was in whaazz stream last week saying the thorium invocation is a big reason enhance is busted

and that's exactly what got nerfed

[outer sky]

He posted this just a few days ago

[molten hedge]

ig ppl's opinions change lmao. this was middle of last week so a little before he made that

whatever days whaazz was queueing enha

[molten hedge]

bithsmis

[gleaming sentinel]

ready for awc

[severe helm]

I think good players of a spec usually hate cheese type gameplay

Not too many survival players I know that like the spec just being designed around one opportunity to kill

[outer sky]

Well yeah that feels awful for anybody. You get CCd on your 3 globals that matter or they use a trivial defensive and now youre useless again for a minute

[severe helm]

6% might not be enough

[severe helm]

Yeah how can people want that

Insane

[rough rock]

not really

still just filler damage that hardly hits above 7k currently

with buff will be nice but verse upgrades still happening so eh

They also just hate arcane mage lmao. Keep buffing missles wondering why 10-20% buffs arent working lmao

[rough rock]

wtf how

[gleaming sentinel]

no 4 set, crafted engi boots / helm

[abstract stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/bomb-pipe-bomb-gif-11987700991386067050

@gleaming sentinel

[gleaming sentinel]

[outer sky]

lol disc priest 2nd top dam

[abstract stratus]

smd easiest season of my life

@outer sky when will you be proud of me

[outer sky]

the amount of rating you gained here is the same amount the other 3 dps lost combined

You legit took their rating from them

[abstract stratus]

HEHE

i killed the resto in the opener one round because

[outer sky]

I should have 6-0d my lobby but i lost game 1 because I didnt realize the priest was Void

until it was too late

then I just won every game

cool little 2500 lobby though

[abstract stratus]

vw is so troll

im wondering if i should just keep pushing i always stop at elite because tabard collecting but idek what my plateu is

[outer sky]

Fuck shuffle and go for glad. 23-2400mmr in 3s right now feels about equal to 24-2500mmr in shuffle

so if you already got elite you may as well push 3s instead

[abstract stratus]

my healer friend is the one who trinketed sap against pika. i dont have friends in this rating LOL

[outer sky]

yeah i saw that lmao

[abstract stratus]

pika talking shit about him is now in my server soundboard

hes not happy about it lol

[potent pivot]

Grain of salt n allat innit bruv

[abstract stratus]

how many r1 slots did sin have in shuffle last season?

[potent pivot]

like 6 or so iirc?

[outer sky]

Tf

[potent pivot]

it's usually around there

[outer sky]

I thought it was 3 or 4

[potent pivot]

might have been

[outer sky]

I think it was

[potent pivot]

it changes between seasons though too

[outer sky]

We have such low rep

[abstract stratus]

i think its 3 min for low pop slots

[potent pivot]

gotta remember that

[outer sky]

Yeah its 3 min

We may have gotten a 4th

[potent pivot]

like tww s1 i'm pretty positive it was 6-7

[outer sky]

But I doubt we got more than that

This season will be 3 or 4 for sure

[abstract stratus]

only the sweatiest

[outer sky]

In trying for r1 assa in blitz this season

Can't just not try for the Galactic Warlord title

[potent pivot]

idkk

sub already has like 6 i think

outlaw has 4

[abstract stratus]

i think blitz is gonna have way more slots tho right?

[outer sky]

People are playing those specs

[outer sky]

Doubt it

[potent pivot]

no

even sub only has 3 so far in blitz rn

[potent pivot]

more people play assa than outlaw my guy

[abstract stratus]

what kind of participation does it require to have more jesus lol

[potent pivot]

its based on top 0.1% of the entire ladder iirc

some shit

[outer sky]

Oh outlaw doesnt have 4

Dazed just has 2 rogues in range

Thats still 3 slots

[potent pivot]

true

but it doesn't show them as being the same person

weird

prob just from a 2nd acc ig

[abstract stratus]

so like is shuffle r1 statistically harder than 3s? im stupid so forgive the dumb questions

[potent pivot]

no, its easier

your spec might not even get 1 person in r1 3v3

because 3s r1 is not based on spec

[abstract stratus]

ok so take someone like pika who is in range on all 3 specs rn would he take a slot for each spec or just whichever spec hes highest on?

i know alts take 1 slot

but like same toon multiple specs

[potent pivot]

in shuffle?

[abstract stratus]

right in shuffle

[potent pivot]

pretty positive he'd take a slot from every spec

[abstract stratus]

toxic

[outer sky]

Correct

But dont worry

He wont actually take any slots

And certainly not all 3

He always gets bored end of season

And stops pushing shuffle

[abstract stratus]

when was his last official r1?

[potent pivot]

pika?

[outer sky]

Back in DF

He didnt get r1 anything last xpac

[abstract stratus]

yea just looked df s4

[potent pivot]

i'm surprised tbh

[worthy edge]

Pika r1 in every class end of dragon flight I think, just for fun. 😂

[static holly]

Who will be the next fotm class after Tuesday's tuning? Warlock looks interesting 🤔

[outer sky]

Destro?

No shot the hellcaller buffs are enough to matter for affi

[static holly]

I found affi pretty hard as priest

[potent pivot]

maybe feral

though that aura buff is beyond lazy as fuck

they need to buff bite damage

[static holly]

Met like 2-3 ferals maybe. Idk

[outer sky]

I like when feral is fotm because at least it dies. The worst metas are when really tanky specs are fotm

[static holly]

Cyclone parties

No thx

[abstract stratus]

i wonder if the prot pally mafia is still win trading after they got removed from the healer role this r1 talk is reminding me of that whole fiasco

[outer sky]

I wonder if theres a macro i can make that will just automatically report any tank spec in the game im currently in

[static holly]

I will try VW disc because this season I tried oracle for the first time and then assa, where I also played as sub instead as normally... I only need to lvl 2 chars 😭

[outer sky]

That would be a huge QoL buff

[abstract stratus]

lets make this lol

[outer sky]

Maybe an addon or something

@halcyon timber hey dude can you make an addon to auto report tanks in arena matches? Its tough sometimes to have to right click their portrait and do the whole reporting process during the match

@ionic crown same to you

[static holly]

Maybe this one @outer sky https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/easyreport

[ionic crown]

wha??

[outer sky]

Hmmm maybe

Ill have to try it out

[finite widget]

i for one welcome our feral overlords

[outer sky]

Is it really that big of a buff? 4% flat aura buff and then 20% to one hero talent on a hero tree no ferals even play?

[potent pivot]

4% isn't half bad

all they lack rn is damage

but i think bite will still be very undertuned

[wanton breach]

what do you guys do to farm slivers on alts?

[potent pivot]

q

it feels like they've changed the drop rates mutliple times, they used to drop more commonly from shuff/blitz

but now i think they're just super common from everything so prolly just spam 2s

[proven kayak]

They nerf survival hunter are we deadass ?

[potent pivot]

"nerf"

they buffed surv

[proven kayak]

The only kill window was takedown

6% dmg in a spec that hits like a noodle means nothing

[halcyon timber]

⚗️🧪 smells like forbidden rogue alchemy.

[grave basin]

played 5 lobbies

[potent pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/226359213427916800/1507576471663808644/image0.jpg?ex=6a126780&is=6a111600&hm=a9b47dea4d09e4c62bba449bc3e6ceaf0ad6e4ad98d598d5b4e39f00827f7e09&

[grave basin]

all 5 lobbies has an enhance

[abstract stratus]

disarm him and win

[quick temple]

yea i was about to say

the nerf to takedown was its raw dam but takedown itself buffs everything by 20%

idk math tho

[outer sky]

Takedown also benefits from the 6% flat aura buff so it didn't really get nerfed by 25%

More like 20%

20.5% to be exact

[quick temple]

yea i thought about it for like 5s before knee jerk reacting

[grave basin]

this is giga cope

they did the same shit with fire mage

bicmex will be 5k rated no matter what

[potent pivot]

comes from the man himself

[outer sky]

Covlol also said its a positive change and that guy sandbags for surv so hard

He wouldnt say that if he didnt really believe it

[quick temple]

isnt survival legit like 2 globals of damage then back to nothing

[outer sky]

Yeah thats what these changes are hoping to fix

But 6% may not be enough

8-10% would probably do a cleaner job

[quick temple]

idk ppl underestimate full on aura buffs

[severe helm]

blitz is far less popular than shuffle

[grave basin]

i mean i hope im wrong but half my lobbies im pack leader cause sent is unplayable

[severe helm]

its a nerf for bad players

[grave basin]

so boring

[proven kayak]

I guess

[proven kayak]

Like the outlaw nerfs?

[grave basin]

it's a buff IF youre allowed to play sent i agree

but loads of lobbies youre not allowed to

[outer sky]

The 6% aura buff would buff shit like boar charge too right?

[grave basin]

probably

who knows blizzard is wacky with that shit

oh look 6 lobbies in a row

[outer sky]

Id love this lobby as assa

Instead I get horse shit like this

[grave basin]

[potent pivot]

idts idk

tbh there's only 2 things to complain about after todays post

1. arms getting nerfed
2. ........pointless af deathstalker changes

[grave basin]

why is arm getting nerfed something to complain about

[outer sky]

3. Assa not getting buffed

[outer sky]

Wasn't necessary

[potent pivot]

fuck assa

buff sub

[potent pivot]

because warrior being good is fine on all sides

[proven kayak]

That’s a nightmare scenario

[potent pivot]

its fine for me, the one playing warrior, and fine for rogues facing warriors

[outer sky]

Yep idk if i could come up with a worse lobby

[grave basin]

idm warriors being good cause i fucking hate sp warlock metas

[potent pivot]

we NEED other melee to be good

but we also like

need buffs

[grave basin]

this guy aint gonna like the nerfs

[outer sky]

Wtf

[severe helm]

I feel like rogue is extremely mid rn

its def far from bad

[outer sky]

Thats REALLY low damage for a whole lobby

[severe helm]

but also far from op

[proven kayak]

Rogue is not bad

[outer sky]

We're the rounds all like 20 seconds?

[potent pivot]

true, its terrible

[grave basin]

what do you think

[outer sky]

Yep

[wanton breach]

only got 3 slivers in 8 wins + 5 losses so far

[outer sky]

Next time try winning all of the games and see if that improves the drop rate

[grave basin]

low mmr goes brr

[grave basin]

For shuffle its quite consistent

I get one every lobby

[wanton breach]

i havent gotten a sliver on a loss yet

[outer sky]

So then stop losing?

[grave basin]

😭

Trvth nvke

[wanton breach]

I just can't stop

You can't make me!

[outer sky]

If youre queueing 2s then thats by far the worst bracket for sliver farm. Try 3s they drop more often from losses in 3s than they do from wins in 2s

[wanton breach]

too early in EU to find 3s

but i'll keep that in mind for the next char

[grave basin]

Do blitz/shuff

Fast pops for healers

[outer sky]

Blitz on eu is just a bunch of Russians trying to spam d/c your team

[grave basin]

How

[outer sky]

https://youtu.be/PmCqsWzbfHI?si=4-85Z3FcKCFoYajm

It happens on NA too but its way more common on EU because thats the region the Russian boosters play on

Trimaz was talking about it earlier

He says its like every game on eu

[grave basin]

Keys stonks cant get higher

[outer sky]

Does anybody know if the bug fix to enhance shaman is already live or if we have to wait until Tuesday for it?

I feel like a bug fix should be hotfixed

It's not "tuning"

Its fucking bugged

That shouldn't wait until reset

[potent pivot]

thats at higher rating though

[outer sky]

Trimaz said 2.8 which isn't even that high in blitz

Thats honestly probably like average mmr

[potent pivot]

just saying

it isn't "every game" literally

if you're gearing alts you're likely not at high mmr

[harsh kiln]

What bug?

[outer sky]

Thorims

Spenders from Thorims are supposed to only do 35% damage during Doomwinds

In pvp

But so far its been bugged so they do 100%

Thats a big reason enhancement shaman has been so strong

[harsh kiln]

Yeah that explains alot

Nullifying needs a cd not a duration decrease imo

Ill take the duration decrease for sure. But im not its the right tuning

[potent pivot]

[outer sky]

It had one last xpac

But now it's tied to Verdant Embrace

So they cant really nerf its CD

[harsh kiln]

Yup, rather take that back than what it is now

[outer sky]

Without nerfing their healing

[harsh kiln]

Yeah i get that

Warriors got a nerf on thw zerk aswell, thats huge actually

Just reading the notes now

[outer sky]

Overall these are very good changes

Only really 2 things to complain about really

1. No assa buffs
2. No nerfs to mage invis

[harsh kiln]

Yup i agree

With the buff to deathstalker would it be more viable than FB on assass now?

[outer sky]

No

[harsh kiln]

Gotcha, im still an outlaw onetrick so i have to ask these things

[outer sky]

Its going to be very hard for DS to ever be better than FB for assa because

1. It has to be played around a lot more than FB
2. FB has this talent which provides a lot of energy and assa really benefits from that right now

[harsh kiln]

Yeah makes sense

Thanks for clarifying

[outer sky]

Its so much energy

[severe helm]

Cuz it is

In a long sim

It's extremely front loaded

[dark moon]

Rets got nefed and they are crying

Still S tier, right?

[wanton breach]

i love russians

-150 cause that guy afks and ragequits while I'm stuck in the first 2 rounds

mmr, not cr

[dark moon]

That's typical

[grave basin]

whats the tldr for the ret nerf

is it an actual nerf nerf or like 0.000001% damage loss

[wanton breach]

it's one line, and I have no clue what's the impact of it

[grave basin]

oh

that's quite the nerf

it's the one that shoots out two more big dam judges when they divine toll

[tepid peak]

from now rets can play only herald

[potent pivot]

I wouldn’t be so sure

[dark moon]

Vanguards is not happy saying ret nerfs are out of pocket

[analog tapir]

is there a good assa rogue streamer/ytber? i rlly like watching them but seems to be so few

[potent pivot]

no dedicated assa rogues that stream regularly or make vids no

mostly have to get lucky enough to catch any of the rogue streamers q assa which is very seldom

[dark moon]

Naskology and akrololz play assa on stream regularly

[potent pivot]

Doesn’t ak play sub

[dark moon]

He plays everything honestly

But caught his stream couple of times and he was assa shuffling

[spring bough]

How’s rogue today

[gleaming sentinel]

got sub elite... outlaw is 2298 :<

[spring bough]

Almost got the triple crown 🔥

I’m about to Que blitz all day try and get this strategist

[gleaming sentinel]

i won too many in a row, my mmr has me sitting 1hr qs

[dark moon]

Ill tell you how is rogue after my sesh today

[gleaming sentinel]

blitz is so stupid ngl

[dark moon]

But i saw venrukis video on dc cheaters in blitz and im shuffling

[dark kernel]

I need to finish my sub elite

I need a mage or 2nd dls for glad push

[rough rock]

Now we can say what they say to us when we are nerfed

“You have a good toolkit tho so you never can be bad”

[dark moon]

unironically they still have S+ tier toolkit tho

[spring bough]

first solo today

2-4... cause mage / spriest kept getting 1 shot by an MM

love to see it fml

"we cant to nothing bro" as they both go from 75% to 0 in a global..... smh

[ionic crown]

ok so deathstalker good?

[spring bough]

fatebound still >>

[ionic crown]

and still trickster too right?

[spring bough]

yeah

[gleaming sentinel]

Gonna camp 2298 for a bit lol

[dark kernel]

Just give it a week and if you go at least one in five bam you're in

The game still feel pretty sweaty up here

I think 2300 is still top 30 for sub and probably ourlaw

[gleaming sentinel]

My sub is like 40 ish

[dark kernel]

Inflation hit like a truck the

[wanton breach]

just accidentally gave people the champions spear + static totem ping pong puke machine

[grave basin]

notrickz out here doing rogue propaganda

in ret discord

[gleaming sentinel]

did a few 3s. frost mage, voidweaver outlaw. tricksing the vw and he just carries

[dark kernel]

I've got some rmp and RM prez

[fading blade]

anyone know when szn might end, just so i can plan out my push

[gleaming sentinel]

my magee friend kinda sucks, but we'r ehaving fun

hees 1.6 shuffle, negative win/loss

[dark kernel]

08/21/26 American is the expected date

3 months

[dark kernel]

Ooooof

RMP as a rogue you feel like a god if you're mage and priest are hot

Like when I play with a really good Mage and priest my life feels like it's on autopilot

I'm being cradled by the most loving arms

[gleaming sentinel]

sometimes i feel like i play well

othertimes i do not

shrug

[potent pivot]

bruh

i don't consider the truth propagana

went in there to see if there was discussion of the ret changes of any substance and saw rogue talk

[gleaming sentinel]

every discord im in asks for rogue nerfs at leeast once a day

[potent pivot]

thats how you separate the strong from the weak

the brave, from the cowards

if anyone thinks rogue needs nerfs rn they are probably just really bad idk

[fathom crag]

for 3v3 it’s probably the most balanced we ever had

i mean rogue

[spring bough]

void disc just did a 40k dps burst took top dmg and killed this lock for my team lol

[static holly]

I don't see many of them in shuffle

First it was monks and now it's just oracle priests

[ocean thunder]

There is a substantial number of VW at 2300+ range

kinda curious on what's the best way to deal with them - feels like killing them works under very specific circumstances and comps.
more like CC and LoS

and if there's a good healer who can dispel SW:P when they cast MBlast->Death combo .. they are cooked

[spring bough]

outlaw >>

[wanton breach]

nice

2300 is elite/legend, right?

[spring bough]

yup

16/100 for legend now lol

[dark kernel]

I expect to see a glad this season

You have 3 months

[spring bough]

havent done 3s since the nerf but did get to 1600 in it lol

[dark kernel]

That's where I'm sitting right now with 1900 MMR

It's time to push. If you want to play on any of your characters I'll even play if you're around at night I have lots of healers at least until we get to ratings where we blow with our comps lol

I think this season is going to be the one for a lot of people so I think a lot of people should be doing threes

If you've ever wanted a glad this is the one

[wanton breach]

maybe I should try for glad

[spring bough]

4-0 on the next shuffle lobby

just got into round 5

[wanton breach]

mount is fugly though

[gleaming sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/im-thinking-im-back-john-wick-keanu-reeves-gif-18424861702889754229

[dark kernel]

I had been saying it before, but statistically as long as blizzard juiced MMR then this season is going to be the easiest and glad in a long time

And it seems that's happening

My buddy said matches at 2100 feel relatively easy

Lots of people who get glad in the last week of season are already there

[spring bough]

WE ARE SO BACK

[gleaming sentinel]

Dude nice!

[spring bough]

1-0 next lobby already

lol

shuffle ques are so back rn

[wanton breach]

holy you are on a roll

what was the other rogue? sub?

[spring bough]

yup

[copper maple]

Love ya too ❤️

[spring bough]

3-0 into round 4 on next lobby

[dark kernel]

What's an average dps looking like for outlaw rn in a shuffleM

I'd assume if your hot on your buttons somewhere around 35k?

As soon as this baby lays down for her nap I'm queuing up sub

[spring bough]

over 40k

[dark kernel]

Aight that's what I'm shoot for in match

[spring bough]

4-1 into round 6

bout to smash this mage so hard

me and an aff lock vs a frost and ret

4-2 =/

heal diff RIP

[dark kernel]

Do it

[spring bough]

2433 #18 outlaw now

[dark kernel]

Insane

My kid is expected to be born 3 days after the season ends

Hope

[wanton breach]

first glad then dad

[dark kernel]

I have a toddler right now. I'm hoping I can get it during nap times and after bed

[wanton breach]

first nap then glad

[dark kernel]

[spring bough]

time to go to blitz only for a bit and cool off lol

dont wanna test my luck lmaooo

[gleaming sentinel]

jus takes a few good lobbies man

nice work

[spring bough]

bout to push 3s with lfg

[gleaming sentinel]

you just w key one guy or what lol

[dark kernel]

As outlaw that's probably best you can do unless healer pushes in, you're rarely going to get a good hook+CC

I really only look to cross now when healers misposition or my dps/heal is going to 1v2 a out of place dps

[spring bough]

for the shuffles?

yeah i do lol

when it was the void disc i just trained disc lmao

[dark kernel]

I swap a lot on healer if it's a druid or h-pal

[spring bough]

3s is fun 2-0 so far lol

me spriest and a resto druid

how many wins is glad? 50?

[upbeat fable]

i did it

[dark kernel]

Looking sick

[dark kernel]

What's the shoulder thing

[dark kernel]

Yessir

[upbeat fable]

void elf chest

spatial rift is actually sick in pvp

juking tf out of people

[dark kernel]

Oh no joke? Is that like the racial armor

I play a cow right now so most armor doesn't look good

[upbeat fable]

yeah its the heritage

[spring bough]

yeah 3s feels ez lol

couple good CCs and some1 dying

[fathom crag]

gambled 627k on some unclaimed box in black market

it aint right man

[spring bough]

lol

nice lil cat

[dark kernel]

@spring bough Im queueing 2k rated 3s first time outlaw

[spring bough]

good luck

[dark kernel]

its hilariously easy

my damage still sucks but ehh

[dark kernel]

lvladen down

[outer sky]

Good

[spring bough]

https://x.com/mvqdh/status/2058223247305462050?s=46&t=YKaisWqFkCTf8y-DfuEaHw
hmmm wonder if this is MVQs post 😂

Mvq (@Mvqdh)

900 upvotes and counting. Give it an upvote and a read if you have time.

https://t.co/e1o40F18Vo

X · May 23, 2026, 4:27 PM

[gilded gulch]

People still need a stationery mailbox?

[molten hedge]

Disagree on the 2nd part. Also just wait for them to be on global

[pine ibex]

Its better deathstalker with the new patch?

Better than trickster i mean

[potent pivot]

Nah

[spring bough]

im 1699 in 3s now too lol

[dark kernel]

im 1720

but we started getting real teams

[spring bough]

1711 now gonna pass u XD

[dark kernel]

we lost 6 in a row and dropped MMR from 1950 to 1850

yeah im tilted rn its not a great time

[spring bough]

me a UDK and disc

[dark kernel]

I decided to queue my first outlaw games as 3s

ive played sub all season

so it went okay

[spring bough]

😭

[dark kernel]

yeah I did like no damage some games

[potent pivot]

[dark kernel]

I feel like...outlaw is so ridiculously easy

but somehow Im hitting BTE and it's not up

[spring bough]

1722

[dark kernel]

very cool

I should have played sub tbh

outlaw/destro/rSham is god awful

it went like super okay I think we started off the day going 5-1 and then ended on 6 straight losses for a 5-7

[rough rock]

I mean you’re a rogue player already so not much difference besides a slightly different pve rotation

[wanton breach]

done

[rough rock]

Tracking the 4 different buffs is what’s fun but I feel like most of us hardly do that haha

[spring bough]

[rough rock]

I love trying to hit a fat zero in

Just to forget about it 20 seconds in 🤣

[dark kernel]

yeah but i still blew

the issue with 3s vs. shuffle is acclimating to having to really save buttons smartly

I had a few good games with 35K consistent damage and then a few with like...20K

because Im just constantly being kited or perma peeling

we played this RMP void disc team that like did this huge fake healer go setup and then would go me and they instagibbed me first game and then second game we got the disc to 1% Hp and could not close

[dark kernel]

Dude if I had ONE qol requestwith current outlaw

It's that Prep resets RTB cooldown

getting a single dice is awful

[dark kernel]

yeah I feel awful looking at this

I wonder what Im doing wrongor if its just being rusty

i usually sit at 70K dps on target dummy

[spring bough]

i was over 50k dps but the details went down after the round ended lol

hate that it does that lol

[outer sky]

getting some recognition in shuffle. Bout time

[wanton breach]

huh

he severely misspelled those curse words

[quick temple]

you W keyed the ret?

[spring bough]

me and mage and i W keyed the MM

[quick temple]

why's the ret doin 20k?

[spring bough]

idk its solo shuffle lol

i also rolled jack pot, KIR'd it and then rolled a 2nd jackpot

[quick temple]

yea jackpot really does something

[spring bough]

i got 72 more wins for legend to go

10 on strategist

[quick temple]

opportunity procs become finishers with jackpot as trickster lol

[spring bough]

breakdown of double jackpot lol

[dark kernel]

I wish I knew what you were doing

[spring bough]

pressing 1,2,3 rinse repeat lol

[dark kernel]

I literally try to open on target and whenever it's damage time stun/ar/blade rush/bte

In that order

[spring bough]

yeah thats what i do

[dark kernel]

And just repesr SS/pistol/dispatch as I can

[spring bough]

i dontt save anything

[dark kernel]

Yeah then I'm just blowing cooldowns

[spring bough]

i just send AR off my first hit

[dark kernel]

Poorly

[spring bough]

prep right near AR being done and all 3 BTE, rush and KS on cooldown before i do

[dark kernel]

I'll try it

I feel like using prep right after adrenaline rushes the current move

[spring bough]

u wanna get prep back asap

send it

[dark kernel]

What are you guys doing into other Rogue teams are you just waiting for the other Rogue to come out

I felt like I was opening and then I'm just getting massive peeled by the other rogue, and so then the entire game I'm playing defense

This is also my team comp probably being ass

[spring bough]

nah man i just send it all day everyday

[dark kernel]

I'm not going to lie, adrenaline Rush and preparation being on the global cooldown tilts me off the face of the planet

[dark moon]

whats the point of this

[spring bough]

the pvp idea?

[dark moon]

yeah

they are not doing a pvp city hub layout

but still, why does he need that? the feeling of being included or

[dark kernel]

It's hilarious because I made almost an identical post to that guy back in dragonflight

Except rather than a city there was a PVP hub called conquerors Tower

And the surrounding area around it was an island that was all war mode all the time

[spring bough]

maybe mvq wrote the post

[dark kernel]

I literally even included a battle pass in my post where the funds from it would go to the AWC

[quick temple]

i cant get an answer if using killing spree at piss CP like a ruthlessness proc is inherently bad

so ima jus keep doing it into stuff with a ton of pets or whatever

[potent pivot]

[dark kernel]

It's no different than the League of Legends or the Dota 2 compendium

Except for the Dota 2 compendium they ended up taking all the funds away from the players

[potent pivot]

As if these greedy fucks would ever go for it tho

[dark kernel]

You would think because they are so greedy that they would because it's just extra money for nothing almost

[potent pivot]

You must not remember the last crowd funded awc prize pool

[dark kernel]

Illegitimately didn't know if they ever did it

I'm assuming nobody paid anything into it

But did blizzard offer any kind of in-game thing

I played a bit during WoD-BFA but not a lot and my alcohol abuse was pretty out of control so my memory is bad for those years

[potent pivot]

They raised millions and kept most of it iirc

I don’t think people will ever let them live that down enough to try it again

[dark kernel]

Yeah that was my other guess of course

That's mega scumlord

If you're going to crowdfund something you have to be upfront about the proportion and the amounts being donated

[potent pivot]

“Blizzard awc money scandal”

[dark kernel]

You know what that probably is what started the huge downfall

[potent pivot]

“Blizzard profited $2.6M, by only giving the AWC prize pool 500K of the money raised”

Just imagine how many people would compete in awc if they didn’t scam the community

And crowd funded it every year or something

[dark kernel]

Yeah exactly it's that easy just don't be that greedy

[potent pivot]

It could’ve been a real esport

[dark kernel]

Imagine having to sell $70 trees

[potent pivot]

YEP

[dark kernel]

I really wish Warcraft was not as popular with women as it is, because they carry a LOT of that cosmetic stuff

That's not a bash at women in general, but they consistently carry the microtransaction portion of a lot of cosmetics

[potent pivot]

I imagine it’s more guys in generality

Just based on it being a game

[spring bough]

How’s the rogue going this season

[dark kernel]

do any of the arena sites track actual win loss in a day to day

[potent pivot]

All 3 of em are sittin pretty

Haven’t had much time to q this past week

Mainly been on the warrior

And ofc they decimate enh before I can play mine

[spring bough]

warriors smh

[potent pivot]

It’s fun

Very similar to havoc

Which I will be playing after reset

[gleaming sentinel]

That shit is not talked about enough

[potent pivot]

Agree

[spring bough]

overhead come on

[dark kernel]

Bro did you all see this

Bicmex old AWC partner ratirl got home invaded and tortured for a few hours from an in home robbery

https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/s/wVEAXiuI0l

[potent pivot]

I saw something about that on twitter but I didn’t know who he was

[dark kernel]

He's a sub rogue main but he rarely streams. Was playing with bicmex in SL and Dragonflight AWC cups

[outer sky]

this is a 2300mmr 2v2 btw

[potent pivot]

Shit happened in Sweden too I think right

World is going to shit man

[gilded gulch]

Man

I love living in a state i can shoot someone trespassing.

[potent pivot]

Yep

[gilded gulch]

is that the same rat bicmex played with

thought that guy was a brit

[potent pivot]

Apparently ya

[outer sky]

actually just one small part of the world

for very obvious reasons

but we're not allowed to talk about it

[gilded gulch]

iykyk

[outer sky]

everybody knows

[potent pivot]

Nah I don’t think there’s many places left that aren’t going to shit at this point

[harsh kiln]

has to be in the south of sweden

not alot going on up here in the north

[dark kernel]

My buddy played that exact team this morning

[outer sky]

eventually there will be

people have been telling you for 20 years to stop giving your country away. The entire planet is laughing at you and your "humanitarian superpower", and the crime is the least of the reason why.

its gunna get a lot worse

you deserve what you tolerate

[quaint cedar]

why are my shuffles cursed today

[outer sky]

thats the last i'll say about it i dont want to get banned

[quaint cedar]

people dying in the opener without defensives

[proven elm]

Are yall using the 4 set on Assassination or just the 2 set? Or is it preference

[outer sky]

2 set

[potent pivot]

2

[outer sky]

4 set is terrible

[dark kernel]

Assassination is too set

[proven elm]

word thank you

[outer sky]

i just played them again

[spring bough]

bro i was on a roll now i cantt win a lobby

bunch of cheeks bs going on out here tonight

[outer sky]

i dont see a win con

its void disc

prot pal

like

thats basically 2 healers and 2 dps

and a tank

[spring bough]

3v2

get fked

[quaint cedar]

fr there is. Had a lobby with a live lord frost mage and of course last two games he's on my team he presses 0 blocks both times

then last lobby had two rounds where a guy dies in the opener

shuffles like this make outlaw feel like such dogshit because you just don't have the burst to punish people like that

[outer sky]

And now it barely even has the sustained damage

[gleaming sentinel]

venruki says outlaw is still omega broken

[quaint cedar]

Honestly my sustain dps is fine, usually keeping with others just fine. But lack of burst with a meta like this feels rough sometimes

[gleaming sentinel]

kidna why i feel like you just have to play trickster

[outer sky]

Oh well if Venruki says so

[spring bough]

F ruki man

[quaint cedar]

Yeah I was flipping back and forth between trickster and fatebound but lately I've been thinking trickster feels better idk

[gleaming sentinel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/lil-yachty-drake-3

[quaint cedar]

they're both kinda the same

ven is very biased against shit that counters him

[gleaming sentinel]

pika still plays trickster supercharger fwiw

[quaint cedar]

that said I think outlaw is still strong just there's some bad lobbies where you feel utterly useless

[gleaming sentinel]

i think the nerfs coming actually elevate us a little

[quaint cedar]

Probably yeah

burst getting trimmed down from other specs helps us a lot

[gleaming sentinel]

yea

[nova sentinel]

@gleaming sentinel Which nerfs?

[spring bough]

8 more wins for strategist

[spring bough]

the ones to other classes

[nova sentinel]

Where can I read those? 12.07 or something?

[potent pivot]

Wowhead

Next reset

Not .7

Tuning is always on wowhead and the official wow website

[spring bough]

i love when healers whisper u after games looking to que lol

[harsh kiln]

You sure have given it alot of thought! I respect it. Wont dig anymore into that iceberg

[gleaming sentinel]

[spring bough]

[outer sky]

https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/2308880-class-tuning-incoming-may-26/

All in all good changes

Very surprised they didnt nerf mage invis though

Aside from null shroud thats probably the biggest complaint I hear about the game now

[mystic tundra]

I'm surprised it didn't get a 2nd charge the way blizz treat mages

[outer sky]

Or better yet, a PvE change like:

"Ray of frost reduces the cooldown of Mass Invisibility, Mass Invisibility reduces the cooldown of Ray of Frost"

With the "does not apply to PvP combat" tag obviously omitted

[mystic tundra]

They'll get a PvP talent one day to allow them to continue moving and making actions while under the effects of iceblock

[outer sky]

At least it'll be a pvp talent and not baseline like it is for a certain pink class I know of

[dark kernel]

Ret/war is so fucking disgusting right now it's inane

I was playing a meme comp, destro/outlaw/rsham, but we couldn't even get bubble until like 4 mins of gameplay

Actual cancer survival

I also don't hate facing pres despite how annoying they are. I gouge off null into kidney they can't go anywhere. Easiest healer RN to cross

But these are probably semi illiterate

[ocean thunder]

its busted for AWC sure, maybe 3s too, but in shuffle mages are not thaaat dominant.
Plus, it's just mages as casters, there's nothing else.
I think they are stuck between balancing for AWC, shuffle and high level 3s

[outer sky]

This is the most S+ tier comp in the game rn IMO. Even better than turbo

[dark kernel]

I actually agree with you in that sense. I can beat turbo

[outer sky]

The Ret keeps his blessing, the Warrior his guard, Each one with a button to make every go hard. Sanctuary waits for the stun that I need, Intervene stands where my kill should bleed.

[dark kernel]

Pretty spot on my experience

[outer sky]

Sanctuary answers the stun I can’t spare, Intervene waits when I finally get there. Mettle turns silence to dust in the air, Deep Breath takes flight and leaves nothing there.

[dark kernel]

And I feel outlaw and destroy with havoc and cleave should not be awful

I also ran double blind to kill their go pressure

With the damage reduction on blind

[gilded gulch]

thats because most mages suck

skill ceiling of mage is insanely high tbh

[outer sky]

The most annoying thing about pres IMO is them having time dial every 20 seconds

[ocean thunder]

here I agree, frost mages is the spec i see the biggest disparity in skill

[gilded gulch]

finding mages that know how to function without MLX OR RMP

is an achievement

[outer sky]

And every hard push, every chance to begin, Time Dilation is waiting again. The target should drop, but the damage gets bent, Stretched out in bronze till the danger is spent.

The blossoms keep opening under his feet, Time keeps on stretching what should be complete. My bleeds are still ticking, but nobody dies, And bronze turns the kill into one more reprise.

[gilded gulch]

sometimes godcomp if your spriest and rdruid know how to set up

stuns/horrify for you

[outer sky]

God comp is trash now that sp lost its stun

[gilded gulch]

yeah

average mage player only knows how to play rmp or bermuda triangle mlx

[outer sky]

I’m not at the pillar because I’m ahead, I’m there with my opener already dead. Their health bars are rising, my pressure won’t show, And the dragon keeps healing through every go.

[dark kernel]

Thank you Dr Seuss

[gilded gulch]

only spec that really keeps mages in check

is mm hunter

[outer sky]

"In check" LOL

Yeah they sure do

[gilded gulch]

loosely

its the closest we get to mages not overrun the place

is when mm can global you

this is why i love non fire meta seasons

sometimes you watch mages die 90-0 before they get to block

[outer sky]

I look at the healer, I wait for the gap, For one clean Kidney, one vanish, one Sap. But Verdant Embrace puts a veil in the light, And Nullifying Shroud turns my whole go to spite.

It isn’t that Kidney lands clean and they live; It’s that I can’t even decide what to give. If Shroud is already wrapped over his frame, Then pressing my stun is just throwing the game.

And if I commit when the timing seems right, That shimmer appears at the edge of my sight. The Cheap Shot gets swallowed, the Kidney gets chewed, My setup dies cold before damage is queued.

Four seconds of Shroud, but it feels like the match, A lock on the door that I never can latch. A violet curse with a dragon’s grin wide, Eating the stun I was holding inside.

[gilded gulch]

But idk imo mage is impossible to truly balance

since john 1600 will get farmed by meleecleaves

[outer sky]

I wait out the Shroud and I think I can go, But somehow he’s sitting on one more “no.” The first one fades out, but the next one is there, A charge in his pocket, a curse in the air.

I stare at his buffs while my kill target heals, Counting the globals this lizard can steal. We need an opening, but none of them show, When the healer keeps banking a four-second no.

[gilded gulch]

average low mage vs rsham dhdk

is funny to watch

[outer sky]

So I don’t press Cheap just to watch it get fed To the shimmer of Shroud sitting over his head. I don’t press Kidney into nothing and cope; I hold it instead and let go of hope.

That is the torture, the rogue’s private hell: Not missing the stun, but knowing too well. The button is ready, the target is low, But the healer is wearing the answer: no.

[dark kernel]

I need this in a huge copy pasta bowl

It was beautiful

Post it on the world of PVP

[outer sky]

I'll send you the whole poem and you can post it

[dark kernel]

I'll have to later, I got Perma banned on another Reddit

I realized that if you're on a parenting subreddit and suggest possibly spanking a child as an absolute last resort, everyone will report you for violence!

[outer sky]

Im perma banned on reddit too

[dark kernel]

Yeah I'm on like my 9th account

Somebody posted a video of one of those data centers and how much noise they make and how awful they are. I suggested just paying a homeless person to burn it down

That's a Perma

[outer sky]

I dont even care enough to bother with that

[dark kernel]

I literally just making new accounts on a different browser or when I get a new phone

That's it

[outer sky]

When i got perma banned on Facebook I tried to mak another account but they IP banned me and they used AI to check new accounts id make for being too similar to any banned accounts

And so even when I got around the IP ban the algorithm would recognize me

And reban me

I got a temp ban on LinkedIn too but I had to delete the account shortly after it expired because I kept getting really morbid death threats

Not just to me to about my kids too

Then I got banned from X

Perma

On YouTube I havent been banned but im not allowed to post videos

[dark kernel]

My OG Reddit has my favorite shitpost

I still get DMd about it

[ocean thunder]

What have you done to get all this bannage 😛

[outer sky]

Yeah ive had a few bangers but they all got mass reported and deleted

[dark kernel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/s/qqOARdCbGA

This is mine

[potent pivot]

https://youtu.be/Ih7ufC0I7Y0?si=2sHRFtbWUvqxZuO6

[dark kernel]

I think I'm actually an idiot and I think it's the League of Legends player actually it's just really weird that he happened to be playing wow and a rogue at the same time

They are both named ratirl

I legit don't know

[potent pivot]

Ya idk I had never heard of this guy before this week

He seems like a decently successful LoL streamer

[outer sky]

I've never played league

One of my wow friends is trying to get me to try it

[dark kernel]

It's easier coming from wow but when I was at my peak in WoW I switched to LoL (closed beta) and it still took me about 1000 games to get to top 10%

[potent pivot]

That is NOT your friend

That is one evil mfer

[rough rock]

let me bring you into the fps world

[outer sky]

jfc

Popped at almost 7 minutes

It seems very difficult to lose as assa in 2v2

that one game I lost

my healer clicked dps

and zoned in as shadow

ok session over

17/18 and the one loss was my healer zoning in as shadow

[gilded gulch]

bgb players man

how do you get an ego doing ts

[potent pivot]

shoulda seen the warlock that was whispering @fathom crag yesterday

[gilded gulch]

this guy complains no damage over a node fight

when he doesnt bother stopping the other's rogue dance

[jaunty osprey]

ok there we go retook #1 assa 3s

world

[gilded gulch]

actually wild how many of these people will be in range of a no trinket healer

stunned full

and proceed to hit someone else

[fathom crag]

LOL

mental guy yea

[gilded gulch]

all blud had to do was

blinding light other rogue when their ret had no forb

and it was gg

[spring bough]

Bro stop linking my check PvP smh

[gilded gulch]

If you struggled at 1500 retwar

i'd side eye you so hard

[spring bough]

[gilded gulch]

at that rating just w key healer

hoj on cd

still remember i got higher on ret using OBR

[spring bough]

WORLD CHAMP 👑

[gilded gulch]

hoj--->rep healer and continue using obr

[potent pivot]

that shit was hilarious

i wish we coulda seen him react to your actual xp before he ignored you lmao

[fathom crag]

nah id never tell him

he needs to think hes right

way better

[potent pivot]

[gilded gulch]

Honestly cracks me up because the guy doesnt kill ret during stuns and says "no damage"

wonder what happens if i dont cc other team's rogue clearly saccing my teammate is enough to kill

[mystic tundra]

Think your friend bragging in priest discord

[gleaming sentinel]

im calling the police

[dark kernel]

@Vanclcan you link me your shuffy build

I was just using Dazed build and I realized this is probably not good for....well a normie

[rough rock]

he about to give you a build built even less for normies

that man is a freak

[potent pivot]

Come home to fatebound and you will achieve enlightenment

[rough rock]

but my burst :(

[gleaming sentinel]

double vanish ks trickster has been my best

fatebound has lost me every lobby

i blame trickz

[potent pivot]

Calling giga cap

[gleaming sentinel]

(it wouldnt have mattered what build i was, i suck)

[potent pivot]

[potent pivot]

“burst”

[dark kernel]

33im awful enough as it is

I think Fatebound with how slow hook is and the fact outlaw gets no modifiers on coins is forever dead

when I realized mastery on assa affected coin damage I literally laughed my ass off

and threw outlaw in the trash

last season

[potent pivot]

Nah

Fatebound was better pre trickster changes, and after the trickster nerfs that shit is meh

[stoic spruce]

Going on vacation really made me not miss WoW, think I'll keep this up.

[hybrid sapphire]

good evening rogues whats the good news

[potent pivot]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ff14-final-fantasy

[hybrid sapphire]

rogue decor blowz

[stoic spruce]

???

It's some of the best

[lime oar]

wtf u want ?

[outer sky]

I'm doing unspeakable things

[mystic tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/asus-msi-obi-wan-sith-destroy-gif-18039908123598928186

[wanton breach]

-50 respect

[dark moon]

Assa prot pala disc? What on earth...

[outer sky]

The disc is void

Hes a dps that has healing CDs

Prot pally is our real healer

[static holly]

https://tenor.com/view/math-calculating-formulas-confused-little-girl-gif-19737617

Got like 5k conquest to burn. Time to test some VW priest

[dark moon]

that is wild

[stark coral]

do i ever gear for mastery as outlaw once i hit the 20% haste? or is crit better?

[potent pivot]

you want a bit more than 20% haste

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

• Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Haste>Crit
• Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
  You want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw to lower the GCD during Adrenaline Rush. (25% for Trickster for energy)
• Subtlety: Vers>Haste to 200 OR 600-700>Mastery>Crit
  Sub now uses a haste threshold to extend Dance and shorten Secret Technique's CD.
  Sub haste rating chart:
  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923898501529600/1483399511836725378/image.png?ex=69bc6d33&is=69bb1bb3&hm=21db8524f3add252a5f7556c91a39c6d076b5cbf29926a0ff3de6f1dad996660&

[stark coral]

im in mostly honor gear, about 26% in combat

[potent pivot]

slightly too much, but nbd

[stark coral]

25% tho in combat is the goal then crit?

[potent pivot]

but you want to get a good amount of vers too, then crit

usually only going to end up with 1-2 pieces of crit gear, and whatever crit you get from 4set

[stark coral]

i usually main war/dk & most people dont go for any crit at all so wasnt really sure if people actually gear for crit on rogue

as outlaw

[potent pivot]

ya

outlaw is one of the only specs left that wants crit

[stark coral]

& 4pc is good for outlaw? the set bonus seemed kinda lame but i guess the stats are just good?

rgr rgr ty

[potent pivot]

the set bonus is good

[stark coral]

okay cool ty!

[potent pivot]

with the way stats are for outlaw you don't really lose anything to take 4p

you trade a bit of vers, but you're only really running vers for the DR anyway

[stark coral]

seems like im on the right track but i have that thing where i freeze up & cant make gear choices lmao

[potent pivot]

everyone tends to gear a little differently

so i get the feeling

[stark coral]

yea trying to go off murlok is rough cause it just shows the top not like one set of gear really

[potent pivot]

lot of people run vers engi pieces, i don't

[stark coral]

i noticed some people crafting vers only items

[potent pivot]

Yeah

The goggles/wrist etc

[stark coral]

if i dont want to open with cheapshot for the DR should i ambush or do i just spam SS out of stealth?

[potent pivot]

With our current builds we never ambush

Should put sinister strike on the same bind on your stealth bar

[stark coral]

ok i thought i saw that somewhere but wasnt sure

ty!

[dark moon]

just played some early morning shuffle and people are foaming from their mouths on eu

had a druid in my lobby clone every single target i went on then i went 3-3 (boomie, mm, bm, resto druid mw) then called me dogshit for losing the round

terminally online ruskys at their best

like it almost felt on purpose, those clones

[outer sky]

They need to add a mechanic where your own team's druid becomes CCable by you whenever they're casting clone so you have a chance to stop them. Seriously I sweear the clones my own druids cast are usually worse for my team than the ones the enemy druid casts.

[outer sky]

On my evoker if somebody pisses me off in shuffle I will Time Stop them on their cooldowns.

[dark moon]

round starts - i open on bm -> clone; i swap to rdruid to put on some pressure so we can swap clone afterwards - gets cloned and my rupture goes into the clone; i step the mm to disarm him and i press 1 mutilate and he gets a clone

and im like...

then he whispers to me

i need to turn on my nvidia replay thingy

those lobbies are demonic

and everybody and their mothers have last season glad mount in those lobbies

btw @outer sky, am I running the correct build for shuffle?

[dark moon]

this is actually insane and i would play evoker only for this

[outer sky]

Take the talent out of rapid injection and put it in Regicide

not a big deal but 1 point of RI is meh

Idk how much haste youre playing

but if its as low as mine (4%)

id also drop Swift Slasher on the class tree

with that low haste its just not doing much

if you have more haste than me then keep it though

[dark moon]

6% outside of arena

[outer sky]

yeah I have 4%

in arena

idk

thats a tough call

it probably doesnt really matter either way

keep it but

vs warriors drop it for Toxic Stilleto

[dark moon]

how do i test my stats outside of arena? cant seem to find a pvp dummy

[stark coral]

theres one in the pvp area the hallway that leads back to AH

[outer sky]

theyre near the conq vendor in silvermoon

[outer sky]

Yeah swift slasher is probably worth it

where are you getting that extra haste from

I only have it on my tier shoulders

These are my stats. It says 5% because i'm Nelf and its night time so 1% extra haste from racial

[potent pivot]

damn thats crazy

pins don't exist ig

[umbral verge]

67

[potent pivot]

maybe they're in some sub gear

[outer sky]

Big Blitz game lets go

[potent pivot]

Carried by the rizzler

They were dev I’m assuming

[outer sky]

Yeah

[willow tartan]

!bis

ay

now that conq cap is gone: is there a bis list for e.g. assa?

[outer sky]

Vers/mastery on every piece possible

2 set

Head and shoulders

Arcanoweave embellishment

[willow tartan]

ok, thanks a bunch

i was playing with 4set but i guess it's not that strong

[outer sky]

Its garbage

For assa

Its good for sub and outlaw

[willow tartan]

i got a lot of crafted pvp gear, not sure if that was a mistake

[potent pivot]

thats fine

[willow tartan]

should I change e.g. the crafted gloves with the glad gloves?

since they give more vers?

[potent pivot]

you want like 20% vers or more at a minimum

[willow tartan]

aight, thanks guys

[potent pivot]

if you feel too squishy with 20%, get more

[willow tartan]

currently sitting at 21%, only feeling squishy against warr and enhc sham

now the question remains if i should craft my other gear or just go for the glad gear

[outer sky]

Im playing with 18% and am farming glad wins. Try it with your crafted gear. If you feel too squishy swap to conq vendor gear

[willow tartan]

that's reassuring to hear! currently only playing solo shuffle to get back into it (around 2k - 2.2k at assa and outlaw, way lower on sub), but having a blast, most of the time 🙂