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neat canopy
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adjusted my spellqueuetimer but i still feel a bit clunky at times

rough rock
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@spring bough gl!

spring bough
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why always me

lime oar
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you can also mass invis during node cap

potent pivot
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Just don’t use it at all

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There’s not really any benefit to changing your sqw

neat canopy
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so i should even change my spell queue window back to its default 400?

potent pivot
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Yeah

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The lowest you’d ever want it is 100-150 above your ping ms

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But it doesn’t really provide any benefit

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If you hit 2 different spells during the 400ms queue, the latest spell you press overwrites any others anyway

fathom crag
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i have it to 118

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cus 18 ms

potent pivot
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I reset mine to 400

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Don’t see any benefit in changing it

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For most people it actually hurts and doesn’t help

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Because having such a low window makes you miss presses and clip your GCDs

molten hedge
neat canopy
stoic spruce
potent pivot
potent pivot
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The only cast sequence macros I use are on off gcd abilities that have charges, as a form of double press protection

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Like on feint, vanish, tea when we cared to press it

neat canopy
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i have /cqs on blind, grappling hook, kick, kidney shot, preperation, and vanish

stoic spruce
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It was better then

quaint cedar
spring bough
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3-3 =/

stoic spruce
quaint cedar
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Eh not bad

spring bough
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think i did more dmg than my arms war last 2 rounds

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smh

quaint cedar
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lol how? Arms seem to do crazy damage in my lobbies

spring bough
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FOTM arms

quaint cedar
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Yeah

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They are everywhere

spring bough
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he got clapped by supa

halcyon timber
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Requesting more logs if people have them over the weekend - please DM for inquiries- it is anonymous as always

quaint cedar
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I went 1-5 my last shuffle

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Legit no idea what to do against WW and dev DH with 2 pres evokers

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They just bursted someone down way faster than I ever could

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Didn't help that no one could agree on what target to hit

stoic spruce
stoic spruce
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That shit makes me want to eat concrete

quaint cedar
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Yeah fr

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Had one of them tell me to never go devourer because they "never die". But I kill them plenty in shuffle? Were all those guys just bad?

spring bough
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im having a great blitz season so far

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games feel good as law

quaint cedar
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I always forget about blitz after the first few weeks

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Should probably do more of them

molten hedge
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1st shuff on outlaw since before the nerfs lfggg

neat canopy
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erm i mean blitz spec

potent pivot
spring bough
potent pivot
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You’re not using quad hook in blitz?

spring bough
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Haven’t played it in blitz all season lmao

potent pivot
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Weirdo

stoic spruce
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Why would you? There a pres every ctf map

potent pivot
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I imagine it’s still really good to be able to get around fast

spring bough
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I don’t usually FC much anymore. Feels like trick got a lil better 1v1 for nodes still

neat canopy
potent pivot
spring bough
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CC is so broken in this game

stoic spruce
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Man up

rough rock
spring bough
neat canopy
neat laurel
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!stats

lethal roostBOT
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These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

spring bough
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#8 on blitz we movin up in life boys

molten hedge
outer sky
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This is such bullshit. These Blizzard devs need to go back to fucking school and learn their numbers or something

spring bough
gleaming sentinel
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assa build in pins good for shuff?

potent pivot
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Either of the fatebound ones

gleaming sentinel
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just hit 90, gotta crate farm

gleaming sentinel
potent pivot
outer sky
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Once conquest uncaps ill bet most assa rogues will be running badge

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Unless the meta changes to get a lot more damp. Which may happen when blizzard buffs ilvl

molten hedge
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aff stonks up

outer sky
# molten hedge aff stonks up

Ive been playing assa/affi a lot lately. Got 2.2 today with a lot of good wins but it feels kinda bad even when you win

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It feels like youre working harder than you have to be

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Im trying to find a comp right now with good burst damage every minute to line up with Kingsbane

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Because kingsbane is how people actually die to you

molten hedge
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idk dark harvest with a bunch of UAs up does rly good dam i fee like

outer sky
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Thinking like assa/enhance or something

molten hedge
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yea

outer sky
molten hedge
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bigdam said he was playing fdk enha

outer sky
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Yeah thats gross

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But like playing assa/affi you just "almost" kill people in your go and then spend the rest of the game playing with your weiner waiting for the healer to oom or fall behind which usually means theyre oom

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Because every healer just afk heals your dots

molten hedge
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if only there was a caster that has a 1 min cd that is immune to stuns and can mass invis so u can get re's

outer sky
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Legit you can have garrote and rupture perpetually up on all 3 targets and nobody will drop below 85% without CDs being used

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Bleeds are just an energy funnel right now and a piss one at that

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So I think like

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Enhance

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Boomie maybe

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Fuck even surv

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With takedown

molten hedge
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Fdk assa pres could be funny

outer sky
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Assa still needs to spread bleeds between goes for prep and even energy to peel

molten hedge
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Why would an fdk stop you from doing that

outer sky
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So idk if it would be so great when the DK legit just wants to sit behind the pillar for 1m

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Probably wouldnt be bad

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Just a conflict of interest there

potent pivot
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but

molten hedge
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It’s cheesy for sure haha

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Sub fdk was fun to watch baker and them be clowns

potent pivot
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i think the consistent pressure is better to have

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when you win with a kb window it usually feels like the game is already over anyway

outer sky
potent pivot
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unless you just snipe a random one in the ope

potent pivot
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they're also playing the kb/sd cheese

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the dtb/sd cheese sry

outer sky
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Yeah idk how thats playable energy wise

potent pivot
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so its not only their kb

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its also their envenoms

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its just another cheesy build someone made a yt video about

outer sky
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Well, I would be very surprised if within a few weeks of conquest uncapping that we dont see 90% of assas running badge

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Because im not even playing the cheese build

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And most of my wins are with KB

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And some are very close

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Badge also buffs your bleed damage too which helps SD proc

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On that go

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And SD trolls

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But if im wrong ill eat my words

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Doubt I will be though

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Unless like I said the meta gets more damp with the extra 9 ilvls

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@molten hedge did you ever play assa/destro last season?

molten hedge
outer sky
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Theyd just pop

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Looked like a feign death

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Every time

molten hedge
vocal surge
outer sky
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i dont think the actual stat value is what people are deciding based on

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more so its just uptime vs having it when you want it for sure

fathom crag
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i played some of it as well

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but i can’t tell which build is better

outer sky
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Dashing/SD

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is better

fathom crag
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do you have a screen shot of what the tree looks like

potent pivot
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should just basically be the same as the one in the pins

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but maybe swapping in mutilate talents

outer sky
fathom crag
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fuck the pve talent whatver tje name is

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next to deathmark

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the nature thingy

outer sky
potent pivot
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caustic spatter

outer sky
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ah yeah

fathom crag
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yeah

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i hate that talent

outer sky
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Yeah its bad

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ok then this one

fathom crag
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yea i played some shuffle w that

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then swapped 4 poisons

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im probably going back to this tbh

outer sky
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I was experimenting with the 2nd one just because I really don't like Regicide's Reward and thought maybe Poison Bomb would be better. Regicide just feels like ass because ideally the game ends before kingsbane is over so its literally 0 value

potent pivot
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i def stand by this build over the dtb/sd one

outer sky
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But Poison Bomb damage doesnt even show on the meters

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its not just low

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its not even there

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so i cant see how good it is

fathom crag
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tbh i was pumping

potent pivot
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i think u can do any combination of the 3 capstone paths

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and still pump

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question is really just which one edges out the others

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zoldycks basically makes your kb a guaranteed kill if you get them below the execute threshold

outer sky
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but like why are these meters so bad that some of our damage is just blatantly omitted from them

potent pivot
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its not omitted

outer sky
potent pivot
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its baked into the spells

outer sky
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ive tried a million times

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PB?

potent pivot
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poison bomb damage is added into envenom now

outer sky
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Ok so how can I quantify it

potent pivot
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start logging

outer sky
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ffs

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give us back details

fathom crag
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btw maybe im fried but it feels like nelf isn’t as good as last ssn

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on assa

outer sky
potent pivot
outer sky
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I have a vulpera rogue and I definitely miss meld

fathom crag
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like you can’t see garrote drs

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why?

neat canopy
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finally found a comfortable build to stick with. working really well for me. that and some other stuff i did to.

outer sky
fathom crag
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wtf how

potent pivot
fathom crag
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i çant see any silence dr

potent pivot
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what are you using

outer sky
fathom crag
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and i know some ppl were complaining too

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sarena reloaded

potent pivot
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try arena core

fathom crag
outer sky
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This green one means half

potent pivot
fathom crag
molten hedge
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KiR and Loaded Dice if u wanna grow some hair on your chest

outer sky
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KiR is one of my least favorite rogue talents theyve ever put in the game

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Of those that people actually take

molten hedge
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If I was an outlaw main, I’d say kir jackpot go brrrrr

stoic spruce
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I always got a use out of it

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Granted I played correctly and very rarely had a 1 butf

fathom crag
outer sky
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I feel like in general rogue talent trees kinda took a shit this season

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Like

molten hedge
outer sky
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Am I the only one who thinks that the positioning of this talent on the tree is complete ass?

stoic spruce
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Don't extend 2 buff

molten hedge
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That’s what they do in PvE

outer sky
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It gatekeeps Avulsion but you need DTB to use it

stoic spruce
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This isn't pve

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Also it's marginally better to fish for 3buff

molten hedge
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That’s your problem popo it issss pve

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Yeah like if on my 3rd ADR of the game I don’t roll a 3 or better I’m KiRing the 2

stoic spruce
outer sky
# fathom crag it’s so bad lmao

yeah it gatekeeps 20% rupture damage but its useless without DTB so if you want Avulsion but not DTB you get stuck with an extra poison you cant even use like wtf

molten hedge
stoic spruce
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Real

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I'm high rolling so much with this RtB

fathom crag
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i usually use deadly instead

outer sky
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like

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if anything that should be a pvp talent or AT LEAST moved to the middle of the tree

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not the right side

fathom crag
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@outer sky did you ever played legion ?

outer sky
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not much pvp though

fathom crag
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i played the whole xpac + private servers

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this version of assa was so amazing

vocal surge
fathom crag
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like they rly cooked that xpac

outer sky
fathom crag
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u just had a shit ton of constant damage

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and kingsbane one shots

outer sky
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ye the artifact weps

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I mostly played sub in legion

potent pivot
fathom crag
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sub was fun too

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all 3 were amazing

outer sky
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yeah legion was a good xpac

fathom crag
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but assa had nice bleed damage + poisons

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i feel like now u chose between poisons or bleeds

molten hedge
dark moon
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There were poison and bleed builds with exsanguinate

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I think there was a point that assa played exang in pvp and had bursts every 45 seconds

outer sky
potent pivot
molten hedge
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So like if I have no momentum getting ccd a ton and can’t risk rolling a 1, I’ll kir a 2

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I don’t do it a lot

nova sentinel
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How much haste do I need to make Outlaw feel fluid like Sub?

nova sentinel
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@potent pivot ty

fathom crag
fathom crag
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maybe they’ll remove shadow blades or AR at some point too

stoic spruce
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Hey

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You stop that

outer sky
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its actually better than Vendetta because its a buff on us not a debuff on the target

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just just need to make it more than 10%

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and it would be fine

outer sky
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ADR is probably the best of the 3 major CDs

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but I did really like Shadow Blades back when it made every builder fill your combo points

stoic spruce
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Yeah I wonder where that came from

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Sub will take Adr next de

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Dw

potent pivot
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we already had it

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shadowlands legendary

stoic spruce
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THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT AND YOU KNOW IT

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TLT

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Adr removed

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BS excuse given

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Shadow Stalk (or some other edgelord name) and it's a 1:1 of adr but no haste tax

stoic spruce
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Sub just takes shit just because

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And I'm sure Sub will find SOMETHING to complain about

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Damn Trickz over here pissing me off

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I want my Dreadblades, AoE blind, gouge, and disarm back

outer sky
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I know we're low rated but Neopolitan Ice Cream Cleave is so fucking brain dead. Both my ret and I dont have much gear and we're low xp on these classes but we just keep winning games by running at people and pressing all our shit on CD

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@dark moon

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Thats what its called

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Loa's Blade-Blessing

dark moon
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I forgot to check it

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Fuck me

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Logged straight into raid

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But my vorasius vers mastery dagger is 298,so ill be using it for pvp

dark moon
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I'll even upgrade my second vora dagger and im going for duelist

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Is duelist still 2100 or did they lower it?

outer sky
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LMAO ofc when I'm just queueing troll games on my trap alt and need a healer this guy queues up

dark moon
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Wow you have 132 bnet friends

gusty hedge
neat canopy
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outlaw pvp what do i want my haste to be at exactly? some says 18%-20% is ok, read somewhere 25% is needed, etc..

potent pivot
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the closer to 25%, the better

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anyone saying 18-20 is trolling imo

stoic spruce
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You stop running out of energy at 20

potent pivot
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but you need above 20 for full gcd reduction

gusty hedge
outer sky
stoic spruce
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Depends on how many you talk to

dark moon
outer sky
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Cuz ive been grinding this game for a whileeee

dark moon
outer sky
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That sounds low

dark moon
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Yeah

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Maybe i need to start keeping people I've added but don't play with

outer sky
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And im just racking my brain trying to remember who this person even is

gusty hedge
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@spring bough 2Hard 4TheRadio

dark moon
neat canopy
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1591 ss cr just went 4/6 last match and got +4 rating. i think im stuck in the mmr zone of hell.

grave basin
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Getting a +6 at that rating for a 4 win means you just got out of a massive loss streak

neat canopy
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ive done so many idk. not gonna argue there though.

grave basin
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Man rating between specs is wild

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Top sv on NA is under 2400 and top devourer is alrdy at 2600

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Wtf

dark moon
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Sv got gutted or

grave basin
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Aint nobody playing this dogass spec without major sunkcost falacy

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Im 1960 and rank 84 NA kekw

dark moon
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Wonder if bicmex plays it

grave basin
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He does

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But basing things on awc calibre players is kinda fried ngl

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Dazed and whaaz made outlaw work every tww season, doesnt mean the spec wasnt dogshit

dark moon
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Erm

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Okay

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I was just wondering about bicmex

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Cause i haven't watched him in ages

grave basin
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Hes like 2500 something

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Last i checked

grave basin
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Brotha i said tww

molten hedge
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Oh I can’t read

dark kernel
spring bough
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Drake dropped. 3 albums. Is PvP time this weekend boys

spring bough
stoic spruce
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I still prefer trickster for the "burst"

spring bough
gleaming sentinel
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hey drake i heard you like em young

spring bough
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Propaganda

gusty hedge
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" I could never be as cold as Kuzan, but I'll try "

spring bough
grave basin
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So is there gonna be tuning

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Im feeling like theyre done

dark kernel
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They're done

dark moon
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Think its donezo for the season

dark kernel
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This is definitely the end of the seasonal tuning

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So we get ret/war overlords, war EVERYTHING

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Turbo is S+ tier giga fucking your mom from fucking you

dark moon
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Woah, not my mom

stoic spruce
dark moon
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If I level my war(cause I've seen people comparing outlaw being the worse warrior) can I be doing what you said to their moms? Sounds kinda good ngl

spring bough
stoic spruce
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Sweeet

spring bough
grave basin
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Definately getting my warr to 90 before reset

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Feels good to be a fotmer

spring bough
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@cobalt pewter we got another poser here

grave basin
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Im alrdy there

gleaming sentinel
dark kernel
grave basin
cobalt pewter
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lot of people are crying about warrior rn its great

gleaming sentinel
grave basin
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Brb selling my kidney to afford plate t3

gilded gulch
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aint it

grave basin
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I have 20k gold

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Tokens are pretty shit rn, 270k per

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So thats like 11 tokens at 28dollars each

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300 dollars garf_sit

spring bough
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@gusty hedge 2 hard 4 the radio got my taking my headphones out cause of this steam

dark moon
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Not saying its cheaper, but it's better looking

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And you're a power ranger

dark kernel
spring bough
dark kernel
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Huh

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I thought there was an edited and annunedited

gusty hedge
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3 albums and with that he should be done with his umg deal most likely

spring bough
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Games got a profanity filter. But “f bombs” will get you banned. Make it make sense lmao

dark kernel
spring bough
dark kernel
molten hedge
spring bough
molten hedge
spring bough
molten hedge
dark moon
spring bough
dark moon
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Why are they allowed to be written then, blizzard?

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Like disable the words like they've disabled the spit emote on players

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Jfc this company man

spring bough
long shore
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does anyone have a sap macro that just spams sap only on invis targets ?

it doesn't sap people who are visible

spring bough
grave basin
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holy fuck who is this guy

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LMAO

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legit 10 hunters

dark moon
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Botter or?

gilded gulch
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stealth or not

spring bough
gilded gulch
spring bough
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But if it hits say the healer and rogue pops up near it’ll clear target and sap the stealthed rogue

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So it’ll work for what they wanna do

gilded gulch
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sappint vanish is the big one

quaint cedar
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You would think that after 7 seasons in a row where shuffle MMR is too low and needs emergency fixes halfway through that maybe blizzard would do something to stop the problem in the first place

gusty hedge
gilded gulch
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some people i queued into at 2.5 mmr were garf

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idk how to put it nicely

quaint cedar
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My bad

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Regardless it's been an issue enough times now you'd think it wouldn't take blizzard so long to fix it

gilded gulch
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i dont remember when it was deflated

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every time i q shuffle the players seem pepega

quaint cedar
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I mean

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Have you seen bg blitz rating?

gilded gulch
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thats not surprising

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just look at people who get hero

quaint cedar
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Shuffle MMR is a joke in comparison

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I know

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Blitz only players are.... yeah

gilded gulch
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Idk i dont think much better of shuffle players

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watching 2.5 dhs die in opener

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is lol

quaint cedar
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I've seen people with like 2800 blitz hard stuck at 1800

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In shuffle

gilded gulch
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shuffle somewht reqs you to know how to kill people

quaint cedar
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Honestly I think the skill of shuffle players depends a lot on the spec being played

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Whatever is fotm is usually hundreds of rating higher than they should be.

gilded gulch
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the best thing is hearing assa is braindead

quaint cedar
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And some specs are just so braindead in shuffle like ret

gilded gulch
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from a dk main

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ok chud

quaint cedar
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lmao

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I swear DK players all think they are so gigabrain

gilded gulch
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dk players act like they’re world class chess players when they listen to a voice call for a grip into mass stun

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anyone who claims dev/fdk is a complex comp

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lmfao

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grip deepbreath

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so hard

quaint cedar
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I've seen warriors claiming their class is harder than rogue. Fully serious

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Yeah dev/fdk is so cheese

gilded gulch
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well i will say

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warbanner took some prediction

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thats as far as warr complexity goes

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fury is just lmao

gilded gulch
dark kernel
gilded gulch
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healers love raging when i kill them in shuffle

rough rock
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Healer (disc): Rogue runs flag ill grip you mid

Me: Okay

Caps flag, runs mid, and whole team literally walks away from me to go fight efc

Dies

Healer: “Trash rogue”

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We had a Pres evoker btw

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I told them he should run it and they still said me

halcyon timber
gilded gulch
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Idk this was a dk who couldnt chains of ice spam either

broken prism
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Woke up to being #73 assa in the US for shuffle peepoBlush

First season trying to climb shuffle so pretty proud of myself.

dark kernel
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The results are sure to be hilarious

broken prism
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Do yall use the ping function that much in shuffle? I feel like when my teammates use it, it generally helps for swapping

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Might macro a target this guy ping on my deathmark

spring bough
halcyon timber
stoic spruce
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Me when a pad spec pads

potent pivot
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maybe some after the mdi

spring bough
stoic spruce
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You want Dev nerfed? Because that's all that'll happen

spring bough
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I gave up on the Devourer dream lol

stoic spruce
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Lol damn

cosmic thistle
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iam new to pvp kb and deatmark how do i want to use it in the start of the round do u always want to send it?

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idk rlly when to hold cds

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same with smoke bomb is that a thing i should only use for the guranteed kill?

broken prism
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Might be hard to give general answers. Have any clips of examples where you werent sure about your cd usage?

cosmic thistle
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i just feel like everytime i do an all in

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i never get the kill

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but tbh idk how to even track cds and what cds classes have lol

cosmic thistle
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no fking way

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askndasbfia

potent pivot
cosmic thistle
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what addons?

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for defs

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could rlly be helpful iam just playing with sarena atm

potent pivot
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MiniCC

cosmic thistle
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do u need to fix anything in it?

potent pivot
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Nope

cosmic thistle
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ok ty ty

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been playing without it have 0 clue when to pop off

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also i have sudden demise but i prob never seen it be helpful to me when i check my dmg is it when they become around 35% i need to apply new bleeds in order for it to proc?

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cause i havent seen somone get like rlly 1 shotted atm

spring bough
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sheesh just 1 round

potent pivot
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Procs at like 10% and requires a fair amount of bleed dmg to be applied at the time

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Are you running the pinned build

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Or the DTB shit

spring bough
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isnt feral supposed to be good

potent pivot
spring bough
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this guy couldnt help kill anything lmao

potent pivot
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It’s actually kinda shit rn

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Yeah

spring bough
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got dev DH to 2% got CC and feral couldnt close lol

potent pivot
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Bite does like zdps

spring bough
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missed a nice 5-1 by like 30k health... RIP lol

potent pivot
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They’re basically all bleed dmg rn and even that isn’t great at all

spring bough
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did outlaw get like a shadow buff cause pistol and sinister doing a lot of dmg today lol

potent pivot
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Nop

spring bough
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pistol + sinister did 30% of my overall from that lobby

mystic tundra
outer sky
dark kernel
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I actually hate when blizzard inflates Total health

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The game feels so dang sluggish right now

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And I think it already felt slow before

dark kernel
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The game just literally becomes which class can do more HP and less globals

nova sentinel
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Am I making things harder on myself for going Outlaw pvp vs Sub?

orchid swift
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Do you guys prefer Assa or Sub for bgb?

Im swapping over from Feral, I like the stealth role but I got kind of bored doing clones + bleeds. I wanna do a little more burst for fun

nova sentinel
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Between those two I like Sub. Mega bursty and fills max combo pts fast.

Sub is more spammy. Assassin is a bit slower, depends on what you want

potent pivot
potent pivot
orchid swift
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Awesome man thanks. Flag caps I want to peel for healers really, and in group fights/cap maps lock down either the best players or heals

potent pivot
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Outside of blitz

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Imo the best spec to climb on rn is assa

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Especially for shuffle

outer sky
molten hedge
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Assa just feels so bad to play to me

potent pivot
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But if there’s a Pres in every lobby it makes sense not to kinda

outer sky
potent pivot
outer sky
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Outlaw grabs flag, quad hooks half way across the map, hands off to the pres who double breaths immune to all CC the rest of the way

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Shits disgusting

potent pivot
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Van def does weird shit so idk

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He doesn’t even play fb in bgs apparently

outer sky
spring bough
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I flag carry sometimes but I’m always trickster

outer sky
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Being able to cross half the map in 5 seconds just seems too broken

spring bough
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Half the time the healers don’t want me even picking

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Most pres are uptight about it lmao

outer sky
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Which is kinda scuffed

spring bough
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I wish most of my lobby’s are weirdly against it idk

orchid swift
outer sky
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If you dont have flurry

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Youre just tab targeting pistol shots

orchid swift
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Ahhhh I gotcha either way, sounds more than than my Feral. No hate towards feral by any means

spring bough
spring bough
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Everyone’s quiet must be busy queuing as outlaw

stoic spruce
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Shhhh

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Focusing

spring bough
stoic spruce
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Fr

gleaming sentinel
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fresh assa

stoic spruce
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@potent pivot are friends shared across bnet accounts?

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Or wow accounts rather

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Dumb question, I thought about it more

jolly sierra
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finally in classic

stoic spruce
potent pivot
jolly sierra
grave basin
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90 warrior done

stoic spruce
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That reminds me of that guy that shot a nail into his skull to alleviate migraine pain

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They'll go through crazy lengths to ease the pain

potent pivot
grave basin
potent pivot
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Yee a bit

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Damn ofc wowhead had to make an article about hyper spawns garf_sit

grave basin
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it's gonna be a long day

potent pivot
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Shit takes ages

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That’s 133 crates garf_sit

rough rock
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Yeah and most groups now a days only do 3 spots which is super annoying

potent pivot
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Sometimes that’s all you can get

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Gotta get kinda lucky to get all 5

grave basin
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group im in has all5

rough rock
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Damn nice

hybrid sapphire
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just hit 2300 who wont me

stoic spruce
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Who wont him?

grave basin
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@potent pivot

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my current crate farming group

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8 hunters

wanton breach
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you got minicc active in world?

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I haven't pvpd in a few days, what happend, is hunter OP (again)?

proven kayak
grave basin
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took a small break

grave basin
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i turned it off

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bm is really good rn

wanton breach
dark kernel
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It's time to power level warriors not rogues

spring bough
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Traitor 😭

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Joining the damn warriors 😭

grave basin
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lol it's an alright alt, could never main this class though

molten hedge
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Ya miss rogue when you play warrior

grave basin
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literally any setup spec feels better

molten hedge
vocal surge
gleaming sentinel
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2.2 on assa, elite this weekend?

spring bough
gleaming sentinel
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Think I’m about caught up to the mmr I’ve gained so we’ll see

spring bough
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started leveling my DK

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kinda liking this new ghoul thing instead of festering

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or whatever the thing was called that used to be popped by scourge strike lol

dark kernel
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I'm back to 2.1 on sub

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Full gear sans slivers today

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Next is my outlaw wep

gusty hedge
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havent played in almost 2 weeks garf_sit

gleaming sentinel
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Gonna do sub on this char to farm low cr for conquest so I can be fully geared lol

spring bough
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timewalk que is pretty instant right now... good time to level up alts

dark moon
spring bough
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@stoic spruce this DK stuff is kinda fun

outer sky
gleaming sentinel
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!stats

lethal roostBOT
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These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

grave basin
dark moon
gleaming sentinel
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respect

grave basin
gleaming sentinel
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havent tried outlaw tbh did a few 2s and bgb thats it

grave basin
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😭

harsh kiln
grave basin
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i refuse to play assa for the 5th (?) season ina row

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rather just be 1500 hardstuck as outlaw

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@spring bough "just one more arms lobby"

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jk it's warlock frost mage on mugambala

spring bough
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lol GL

gleaming sentinel
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im gonna get good at all of them

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but outlaw will be my full content main

grave basin
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yea ive embraced that lifestyle ages ago lol

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got 8 geared toons

gleaming sentinel
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2 rogues and a dh for me atm

severe helm
severe helm
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Only real chads main a spec these days

gleaming sentinel
grave basin
potent pivot
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i don't think its possible to truly "have fun" being a 1 trick these days

long shore
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Anyone knows how to beat a frost mage 1v1 who plays blink stun in open world PvP?

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Seems pretty impossible they have 2 charges of that and alter time

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And invis / mass invis

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Only time I can win is if they are shimmer

potent pivot
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Sub/assa can’t keep up let alone lock them down

gleaming sentinel
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you did not hit me with a drake gif

gusty hedge
ocean delta
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for sub, whats the best bg food stats? primary or vers?

abstract stratus
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devourer is such a stupid spec playing one game of it in a skirm has given me autism

severe helm
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I'd swap if I was queueing 3s

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But in solo I might as well play the spec I think is the most fun

potent pivot
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your standing in rankings might be spec based, but the game is not

severe helm
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I guess I don't play those parts of the game anymore lol

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Can't remember the last time I queued 3s

potent pivot
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i'm talking about everything, shuffle included

severe helm
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Wdym

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Shuffle is only spec based

potent pivot
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bro

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i just said it

potent pivot
severe helm
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The game is spec based in shuffle

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Lol

potent pivot
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no

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your rank might be spec based, but that doesn't mean shit for gameplay

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if you q a spec that is dog shit in shuffle, you aren't magically going to q into other dog shit specs

severe helm
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Oh sure yeah the players you will play with will be worse if your spec is bad

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But unless a spec is turbo bad that's usually pretty negligible

potent pivot
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imo there's quite a few specs rn where that is not negligible at all

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why spend time playing something that is ass if you can have more fun on something else

severe helm
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Yeah I've tried chasing the "this specs op" thing in DF and it was more work than it was worth lol

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Would be convenient if the specs I liked were all on the same class so I didn't have to have multiple things geared to swap

gleaming sentinel
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its fine to play however you want

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lol

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im personally just over this 1 trick mentality

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its fun to learn other stuff

potent pivot
dark moon
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i dont want to get flamed, but 1 trick in wow brings only suffering and negative joy and fun

potent pivot
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but like you said

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stubbornly 1 tricking something

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is just hurting your own fun in your free time

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if you aren't having fun while doing the 1 tricking

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its time to try new things

gleaming sentinel
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i find playing these alt specs takes any sort of pressure i put on myself off too

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its nice learning sub is still aggravating af in shuffle tho

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LOL

potent pivot
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but the cry babies endless rain of tears

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sub was in a good spot

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7 nerfs later, its got the worst dps in the game

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i wonder why

gleaming sentinel
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i like this version of assa rn

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feels decent

spring bough
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so i went a little more mastery on the outlaw

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and MG is pumping on trickster

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doing 10% of my overall in shuffle lobbies lol

gleaming sentinel
spring bough
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now im in a double ret and arms lobby with a preso and a resto sham.... FML

neat canopy
grave basin
outer sky
grave basin
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how is that even possible

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1400 is legit backpedalling clicking one button rotation territory

molten hedge
potent pivot
grave basin
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i hate rating shaming but come on legit zero sense in mmr

molten hedge
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Bc if he gets glad on anything else it’s an asterisk

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Like bro

molten hedge
# outer sky

I had a shuffle with markers rsham earlier it fucking sucked. Bro is doing full dam build in a shuffle as rsham

molten hedge
molten hedge
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When sp was insane in beta/early ssn he refused to play it

outer sky
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So he doesnt want to play anything thats considered good?

molten hedge
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Exactly

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His only glad was Slands so he has an inferiority complex

molten hedge
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Lmaooo

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He got 2.8k xp as sp last ssn in shuffle but wont list that xp bc it was a more inflated/last of expansion ssn. Everything about him makes no sense

outer sky
molten hedge
outer sky
spring bough
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pvp ques are going fast today

grave basin
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we going places

spring bough
grave basin
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brb training your healer

molten hedge
grave basin
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LF healers glad push 1.4k shuffle=2.4k blitz exp

grave basin
gleaming sentinel
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love how my alt has more slivers than i'll ever need and my main only got 2 so far

neat canopy
grave basin
gilded gulch
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How many placements is bgb?

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only got 30 pts for a win despite being 8-0 so far lmao

outer sky
gilded gulch
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damn really?

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how is bgb so inflated then

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people just dont lose rating from losses?

outer sky
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Mmr stays way higher than CR for a long time

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You have to lose a ton

gilded gulch
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it was weird because my 8th game was same mmr as cr

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despite no losses

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but ig placements

spring bough
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i wish i could get PVE shards from pvp lol

potent pivot
spring bough
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boys

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we might just get elite in shuffle on this lobby..... even after nerfs lol

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2300 exactly boys we did it

spring bough
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now if i could only get a blitz win today....

gilded gulch
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blitz gains are so slow

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shuffle can get 50 pts in a lobby

gleaming sentinel
spring bough
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back to leveling the DK after all that lol

gleaming sentinel
spring bough
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12 wins for strategist gonna def try for that

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idk about 100 more shuffle wins tho lol

gusty hedge
gleaming sentinel
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nerf rogues

dark kernel
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Pve question for the boys; if I Re-kill a boss multiple times per week can I use a bonus roll each time

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Chimaerus is a literal CUCK and keeps giving me dog shit

lapis solstice
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What spec you guys rocking for shuffle?

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Sub mainly?

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Just tried assa and it was kind of nice. Felt a little more straight forward to play than the other two. But I also felt easier to get killed.

spring bough
lapis solstice
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Still good post nerf? You use trickster?

dark kernel
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I don't know if I'll have a lil too low haste and too much mastery tho

spring bough
dark kernel
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20% haste in sub gear in pvp

potent pivot
lapis solstice
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You like it over sub?

potent pivot
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By far

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It’s the only spec that has meaningful damage now

gleaming sentinel
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weirdly, im highest on sub and prob the worst at it

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lobbies matter tho

lapis solstice
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Sub and to an extent outlaw i get a little over analysis paralysis. Trying to track DRs and cds

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I like havoc too for it's simplicity but kind of trash tier atm

gilded gulch
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I mean sub you can mostly stun off dr

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on kill targets

lapis solstice
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Do you worry much about off Cc on healer?

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Like are you supposed to kidney the healer before each go?

dark kernel
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I am going to say

lapis solstice
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Maybe I'm trying to play sub like pikaboo too much and just need to zug on one target more

dark kernel
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Well piloted frost mages are just illegally good

dark kernel
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The fact mages have double stun blink means you physically cannot ever stun a mage

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I'm half tempted to just use stuns on off target only against mage teams

gilded gulch
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I do feel bad mages cant land polys without pre stuns

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and yap the most about kidneying healers per go the most

gilded gulch
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and just hold w more

outer sky
dark kernel
outer sky
dark kernel
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Like frost mage/pres or rsham

outer sky
dark kernel
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Like you are not connecting or you're just waddling to pillar

dark kernel
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I burn vanish just for blink SS when it's going to get block even

outer sky
molten hedge
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The urge to waste both vanishes for strike after no steps is strong

outer sky
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Its a perfectly reasonable thing to do

molten hedge
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For sure. Pick your moments kinda thing

dark kernel
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I do run it occasionally

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I just really like DFA into mage if there's not a disarm target over tricks specifically frost mage only thi

outer sky
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Just high risk high reward depending on context

outer sky
dark kernel
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Isn't quick decisions the reduce CD on step to ally

outer sky
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Youre NOT running quick decisions as sub every game?

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No

dark kernel
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I'm not at my desk

outer sky
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Thats silhouette

dark kernel
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Which one is quick

outer sky
molten hedge
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Step cdr and range. Surely you run it

dark kernel
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Yeah

outer sky
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I wish this was on the class tree so bad

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Although as assa i dont really need to connect as much

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I legit only need to be on the targer for like 3 seconds every minute

gilded gulch
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"ill trinket first stun of the game for no reason surely i wont die for this"

outer sky
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Like bro how many times do you have to die in a kidney>bomb to realize trinketing that disarm isnt the correct move

gilded gulch
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i mean the best part is when they somewhat wise up

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then someone else becoms a viable target instead

mystic tundra
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The fact you can disarm while being disarmed is the most infuriating thing ever. Oh look I'll disarm you and now I'm disarmed. Feels like I'm disarming myself every time I press the button

potent pivot
dark kernel
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Or you just disarm off of your stun to just keep them down and frustrate them and delay things

spring bough
long shore
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now it's 2 lol

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1 charge blinking out of stun i can understand

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who thought giving mages 2 charges of stun immunity is good

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on a 15s CD

spring bough
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every1 got pruned and mage somehow gains util? lolol

molten hedge
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Lost blast wave and the thing that gives CDR they channel

stoic spruce
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They lost some but not like it matters since they're still the slipperiest class in the game garf_sit

spring bough
fathom crag
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nah mass invis isnt new

stiff cedar
fathom crag
#

99% sure they picked better talents over that

stiff cedar
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Cause mass OP barrier was also really good

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And it was a choice node

dark kernel
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If mage plays correct they cannot be stunned ever on DR

stoic spruce
spring bough
stoic spruce
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@severe helm care to chime in?

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Tell him it's not new

severe helm
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It's not new

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Did I do good?

stoic spruce
#

Ye

spring bough
severe helm
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Lolol

stoic spruce
#

I don't remember that from HALO

severe helm
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Double blink stun is absurd though

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Mage is so hard to kill rn

spring bough
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Outlaw just doms mages

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1 more level and I’m about to gear a DK out and hit solo with it

stoic spruce
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Chapter books doms mages too

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I think I'm a closeted warrior main because lately when I get in arguments I tell them to post their bench and that's all I got @potent pivot

molten hedge
spring bough
stoic spruce
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Frost yeah

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Unholy it entirely depends

spring bough
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im not playing frost no way lmao

stoic spruce
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If they try to counter your 45s goes and not your 90s

spring bough
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unholy all the way

stoic spruce
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It's fun but it ain't that great

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They patched the thing that was doing big dam one shots

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Turns out it was a bug

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Shocker I know

spring bough
stoic spruce
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Honestly the spec is just fun in general

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A little boring but frankly all specs in the game are rn

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So I don't see "boring" as a valid argument

spring bough
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survival is my next 90

stoic spruce
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Dude same

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I wish I was good at trap placement

spring bough
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boomstick kinda fun

stoic spruce
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I may have to pve to practice that though

spring bough
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fk traps just ball

stoic spruce
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Sheeeit when you put it like that

spring bough
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just land 1 good frost trap

stoic spruce
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I cantttt

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All I know is kill command, mongoose strike, and charge my phone

spring bough
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and boomstick

stoic spruce
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I haven't played it since beta

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Damn I want to level my hunter but I'm going on vacation soon

spring bough
stoic spruce
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Work week, I'll see what I can do between shifts

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Wait isn't it turbulent time waves rn?

spring bough
stoic spruce
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Damn

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I'd love a new mount

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Those timewave mounts are always baller

spring bough
stoic spruce
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Glhf

potent pivot
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Timewalking is rn