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you can also mass invis during node cap
so i should even change my spell queue window back to its default 400?
Yeah
The lowest you’d ever want it is 100-150 above your ping ms
But it doesn’t really provide any benefit
If you hit 2 different spells during the 400ms queue, the latest spell you press overwrites any others anyway
I reset mine to 400
Don’t see any benefit in changing it
For most people it actually hurts and doesn’t help
Because having such a low window makes you miss presses and clip your GCDs
Did I just see you get a lil taste of the tease
thats what i think i am kinda doing. getting rid of a bunch of the /cqs macros i had and changed my default spellqueuewindow back to 400.
I nuked him on a dk in ptr back in DF
Cast sequence macros are mostly giga terrible as well yeah
The only cast sequence macros I use are on off gcd abilities that have charges, as a form of double press protection
Like on feint, vanish, tea when we cared to press it
i have /cqs on blind, grappling hook, kick, kidney shot, preperation, and vanish
It was better then
Did you win?
3-3 =/
Eh not bad
lol how? Arms seem to do crazy damage in my lobbies
FOTM arms
he got clapped by supa
Requesting more logs if people have them over the weekend - please DM for inquiries- it is anonymous as always
I went 1-5 my last shuffle
Legit no idea what to do against WW and dev DH with 2 pres evokers
They just bursted someone down way faster than I ever could
Didn't help that no one could agree on what target to hit
I'll take things that DID happen for 500 Alex
That shit makes me want to eat concrete
Yeah fr
Had one of them tell me to never go devourer because they "never die". But I kill them plenty in shuffle? Were all those guys just bad?
I always forget about blitz after the first few weeks
Should probably do more of them
1st shuff on outlaw since before the nerfs lfggg
may i see your ss outlaw spec?
erm i mean blitz spec
Why do you need it on any of those?
just rocking a trickster build
Haven’t played it in blitz all season lmao
Weirdo
Why would you? There a pres every ctf map
I imagine it’s still really good to be able to get around fast
I don’t usually FC much anymore. Feels like trick got a lil better 1v1 for nodes still
idk exactly what to use it for tbh. just googled it and it said basically use/cqs macro for your ohshit buttons
I don’t think that does anything
CC is so broken in this game
Man up
No more gamba? :(
just an avg guy now
after reading up some more i am just using /cqs on kick, kidney shot, and vanish.
!stats
These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.
- Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Haste>Crit
- Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw to lower the GCD during Adrenaline Rush. (25% for Trickster for energy) - Subtlety: Vers>Haste to 200 OR 600-700>Mastery>Crit
Sub now uses a haste threshold to extend Dance and shorten Secret Technique's CD.
Sub haste rating chart:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923898501529600/1483399511836725378/image.png?ex=69bc6d33&is=69bb1bb3&hm=21db8524f3add252a5f7556c91a39c6d076b5cbf29926a0ff3de6f1dad996660&
#8 on blitz we movin up in life boys
Rip van he had a good life. You can take his damage, but youcan’t kill his spirit
This is such bullshit. These Blizzard devs need to go back to fucking school and learn their numbers or something
3-3's on shuffle and back up almost 150 rating lol
assa build in pins good for shuff?
Ye
Either of the fatebound ones
badge for kingsbane or nah?
Nah
Once conquest uncaps ill bet most assa rogues will be running badge
Unless the meta changes to get a lot more damp. Which may happen when blizzard buffs ilvl
aff stonks up
Ive been playing assa/affi a lot lately. Got 2.2 today with a lot of good wins but it feels kinda bad even when you win
It feels like youre working harder than you have to be
Im trying to find a comp right now with good burst damage every minute to line up with Kingsbane
Because kingsbane is how people actually die to you
idk dark harvest with a bunch of UAs up does rly good dam i fee like
Thinking like assa/enhance or something
yea
Yeah it can but so much shit does it better
bigdam said he was playing fdk enha
Yeah thats gross
But like playing assa/affi you just "almost" kill people in your go and then spend the rest of the game playing with your weiner waiting for the healer to oom or fall behind which usually means theyre oom
Because every healer just afk heals your dots
if only there was a caster that has a 1 min cd that is immune to stuns and can mass invis so u can get re's
Legit you can have garrote and rupture perpetually up on all 3 targets and nobody will drop below 85% without CDs being used
Bleeds are just an energy funnel right now and a piss one at that
So I think like
Enhance
Boomie maybe
Fuck even surv
With takedown
Fdk assa pres could be funny
Ehh idk
Assa still needs to spread bleeds between goes for prep and even energy to peel
Why would an fdk stop you from doing that
So idk if it would be so great when the DK legit just wants to sit behind the pillar for 1m
Probably wouldnt be bad
Just a conflict of interest there
i do think both are good
but
i think the consistent pressure is better to have
when you win with a kb window it usually feels like the game is already over anyway
Idk 7/10 of the top 10 assa rogue world are playing badge and less than a month ago hardly anyone was
unless you just snipe a random one in the ope
ik
they're also playing the kb/sd cheese
the dtb/sd cheese sry
Yeah idk how thats playable energy wise
so its not only their kb
its also their envenoms
its just another cheesy build someone made a yt video about

Well, I would be very surprised if within a few weeks of conquest uncapping that we dont see 90% of assas running badge
Because im not even playing the cheese build
And most of my wins are with KB
And some are very close
Badge also buffs your bleed damage too which helps SD proc
On that go
And SD trolls
But if im wrong ill eat my words
Doubt I will be though
Unless like I said the meta gets more damp with the extra 9 ilvls
@molten hedge did you ever play assa/destro last season?
I don’t think so. Only feral destro
When you'd kingsbane at the same time a bolt hit
Theyd just pop
Looked like a feign death
Every time
Yeah I did it a few times on accident in shuffle 🤣 20 mil death logs in less than a sec was funny
Badge is worth like 20% of your main stat
yeah but insignia is what like 15%? and it has more uptime
i dont think the actual stat value is what people are deciding based on
more so its just uptime vs having it when you want it for sure
i see everyone playing 4 poisons
i played some of it as well
but i can’t tell which build is better
do you have a screen shot of what the tree looks like
should just basically be the same as the one in the pins
but maybe swapping in mutilate talents
either of these. I cant decide which one I like better. But it probably doesn't matter tbh
?
caustic spatter
ah yeah
yea i played some shuffle w that
then swapped 4 poisons
im probably going back to this tbh
I was experimenting with the 2nd one just because I really don't like Regicide's Reward and thought maybe Poison Bomb would be better. Regicide just feels like ass because ideally the game ends before kingsbane is over so its literally 0 value
i def stand by this build over the dtb/sd one
But Poison Bomb damage doesnt even show on the meters
its not just low
its not even there
so i cant see how good it is
tbh i was pumping
i think u can do any combination of the 3 capstone paths
and still pump
question is really just which one edges out the others
zoldycks basically makes your kb a guaranteed kill if you get them below the execute threshold
but like why are these meters so bad that some of our damage is just blatantly omitted from them
its not omitted
its not there
its baked into the spells
poison bomb damage is added into envenom now
Ok so how can I quantify it
start logging
it isnt "as good" but its still way ahead of any other option
because it isn't ye
I have a vulpera rogue and I definitely miss meld
finally found a comfortable build to stick with. working really well for me. that and some other stuff i did to.
I can?
wtf how

i çant see any silence dr
what are you using
try arena core
supercharger is better than lethality after nerf
the red outline means its fully DRd
This green one means half
imp bte also better than deadly pursuit if you can make that swap
thats sick
KiR and Loaded Dice if u wanna grow some hair on your chest
KiR is one of my least favorite rogue talents theyve ever put in the game
Of those that people actually take
Based tbh
If I was an outlaw main, I’d say kir jackpot go brrrrr
I always got a use out of it
Granted I played correctly and very rarely had a 1 butf
yea and then you never get to use it cus games are so short and you don’t get good buffs

Yeah but even extending a 2 after your prep ADR isn’t bad that’s what they do in PvE iirc from the guide
Am I the only one who thinks that the positioning of this talent on the tree is complete ass?
Don't extend 2 buff
That’s what they do in PvE
It gatekeeps Avulsion but you need DTB to use it
it’s so bad lmao
That’s your problem popo it issss pve
Yeah like if on my 3rd ADR of the game I don’t roll a 3 or better I’m KiRing the 2
They're literally unfinished
yeah it gatekeeps 20% rupture damage but its useless without DTB so if you want Avulsion but not DTB you get stuck with an extra poison you cant even use like wtf
Idk that never happens to me
The best is when u just roll a 3+ your first roll lll
i don’t even use it much when playing 4 poisons
i usually use deadly instead
ya that too
like
if anything that should be a pvp talent or AT LEAST moved to the middle of the tree
not the right side
@outer sky did you ever played legion ?
yeah
not much pvp though
When it comes to bursting, the amount of increases to your stats matter alot
like they rly cooked that xpac
Mantle of the Master Assassin one shots?
pretty sure it is not, no. lmao
yeah legion was a good xpac
but assa had nice bleed damage + poisons
i feel like now u chose between poisons or bleeds
There were poison and bleed builds with exsanguinate
I think there was a point that assa played exang in pvp and had bursts every 45 seconds
It feels like they cant figure out whether they want assa to actually be
its technically a loss
So like if I have no momentum getting ccd a ton and can’t risk rolling a 1, I’ll kir a 2
I don’t do it a lot
How much haste do I need to make Outlaw feel fluid like Sub?
20-25%
@potent pivot ty
they need to get ride of deathmark i dont know a single rogue players who likes it
Me neither
maybe they’ll remove shadow blades or AR at some point too
We have a half assed Vendetta with Finish the Job
its actually better than Vendetta because its a buff on us not a debuff on the target
just just need to make it more than 10%
and it would be fine
ADR is probably the best of the 3 major CDs
but I did really like Shadow Blades back when it made every builder fill your combo points
THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT AND YOU KNOW IT
TLT
Adr removed
BS excuse given
Shadow Stalk (or some other edgelord name) and it's a 1:1 of adr but no haste tax
If we're lucky
Sub just takes shit just because
And I'm sure Sub will find SOMETHING to complain about
Damn Trickz over here pissing me off
I want my Dreadblades, AoE blind, gouge, and disarm back
I know we're low rated but Neopolitan Ice Cream Cleave is so fucking brain dead. Both my ret and I dont have much gear and we're low xp on these classes but we just keep winning games by running at people and pressing all our shit on CD
@dark moon
Thats what its called
Loa's Blade-Blessing
I forgot to check it
Fuck me
Logged straight into raid
But my vorasius vers mastery dagger is 298,so ill be using it for pvp
I'll even upgrade my second vora dagger and im going for duelist
Is duelist still 2100 or did they lower it?
LMAO ofc when I'm just queueing troll games on my trap alt and need a healer this guy queues up
Wow you have 132 bnet friends
outlaw pvp what do i want my haste to be at exactly? some says 18%-20% is ok, read somewhere 25% is needed, etc..
20-25%
the closer to 25%, the better
anyone saying 18-20 is trolling imo
You stop running out of energy at 20
but you need above 20 for full gcd reduction
Triple haste accessories ftw double/triple crafted + off pieces haste/verse should have you sitting at 22-25% depending on if its crafted/glad
Is that a lot? I dont even know
Depends on how many you talk to
To me is - I'm bad at networking so I have like 10-15 people
How long have you been playing though
Cuz ive been grinding this game for a whileeee
If we exclude half cataclysm and most of panda and wod since 2004-5 before bnet friends
And only 15 people?
That sounds low
I have a bad habit of not setting notes for people I add so sometimes ill just get a random message from somebody I dont even remember and theyre like "hey man whats up?? Im back!! How've you been???"
And im just racking my brain trying to remember who this person even is
I have notes, but if i don't play with someone for a season or two i remove them
1591 ss cr just went 4/6 last match and got +4 rating. i think im stuck in the mmr zone of hell.
Getting a +6 at that rating for a 4 win means you just got out of a massive loss streak
ive done so many idk. not gonna argue there though.
Man rating between specs is wild
Top sv on NA is under 2400 and top devourer is alrdy at 2600
Wtf
Sv got gutted or
Aint nobody playing this dogass spec without major sunkcost falacy
Im 1960 and rank 84 NA kekw
Wonder if bicmex plays it
He does
But basing things on awc calibre players is kinda fried ngl
Dazed and whaaz made outlaw work every tww season, doesnt mean the spec wasnt dogshit
Idt outlaw is bad rn
Brotha i said tww
Oh I can’t read
I finished the album
Drake dropped. 3 albums. Is PvP time this weekend boys
THREE ALBUMS LOL
It's very okay
I still prefer trickster for the "burst"
Yeee
🐐
hey drake i heard you like em young
Propaganda
Bro is spitting on iceman 🗣️
They're done
Think its donezo for the season
This is definitely the end of the seasonal tuning
So we get ret/war overlords, war EVERYTHING
Turbo is S+ tier giga fucking your mom from fucking you
Woah, not my mom
When a Brit needs a closer look at something
If I level my war(cause I've seen people comparing outlaw being the worse warrior) can I be doing what you said to their moms? Sounds kinda good ngl
I’m gonna be one tapping hoes in blitz all weekend bumping ICEMAN 🧊
Sweeet
Need more gifs today w lyrics
One sec lemme get warrior disc link
@cobalt pewter we got another poser here

That sticker is so fucking good

Holy fucking based
lot of people are crying about warrior rn its great
the goat
Brb selling my kidney to afford plate t3
its less than 3m for the entire set
aint it
I have 20k gold
Tokens are pretty shit rn, 270k per
So thats like 11 tokens at 28dollars each
300 dollars 
@gusty hedge 2 hard 4 the radio got my taking my headphones out cause of this steam
Get pala t3
Not saying its cheaper, but it's better looking
And you're a power ranger
I like the album but really I think only a few real bangers
There’s 3 albums lol
3 albums and with that he should be done with his umg deal most likely
There is Iceman, Habibti, and Maid of Honour
Games got a profanity filter. But “f bombs” will get you banned. Make it make sense lmao
Why in the fuck LOL
To get out of his deal. Now he can be independent
Ahh so he finished his contract. I'd be surprised they aren't all Bunk. I listened to all of Iceman and it was good but not great
I did my first shuff since nerfs yday and did 2nd highest dam almost 2300mmr. It’s still fun to me
I went 3-3 all day yesterday. Ripped one 4-2 and I’m up 200 rating
Painnn. What MMR are you at now
Back to 2200
Niceee!!
The fuck
Curses are prohibited as per social contract LMAO
Why are they allowed to be written then, blizzard?
Like disable the words like they've disabled the spit emote on players
Jfc this company man
That’s genius but they gotta be able to ban people to make money off new subs and new accounts
does anyone have a sap macro that just spams sap only on invis targets ?
it doesn't sap people who are visible
#showtooltip Sap
/cleartarget
/targetenemyplayer
/cast [stance:1/3, harm, nodead] Sap
gigachad VanCleef
ty so much
Botter or?
doesnt this just sap nearest
stealth or not
It does. I don’t think there is a macro that can differentiate
yeah you cant specifically have it only sap stealthers
But if it hits say the healer and rogue pops up near it’ll clear target and sap the stealthed rogue
So it’ll work for what they wanna do
sappint vanish is the big one
You would think that after 7 seasons in a row where shuffle MMR is too low and needs emergency fixes halfway through that maybe blizzard would do something to stop the problem in the first place
wtf 
securing that spot ain't he 
it wasnt too low last season?
some people i queued into at 2.5 mmr were 
idk how to put it nicely
I didn't play last season. I quit pretty early in TWW but shuffle has been deflated so many times I just assumed it was the same
My bad
Regardless it's been an issue enough times now you'd think it wouldn't take blizzard so long to fix it
i dont remember when it was deflated
every time i q shuffle the players seem pepega
Idk i dont think much better of shuffle players
watching 2.5 dhs die in opener
is lol
shuffle somewht reqs you to know how to kill people
Honestly I think the skill of shuffle players depends a lot on the spec being played
Whatever is fotm is usually hundreds of rating higher than they should be.
the best thing is hearing assa is braindead
And some specs are just so braindead in shuffle like ret
dk players act like they’re world class chess players when they listen to a voice call for a grip into mass stun
anyone who claims dev/fdk is a complex comp
lmfao
grip deepbreath
so hard
I've seen warriors claiming their class is harder than rogue. Fully serious
Yeah dev/fdk is so cheese
well i will say
warbanner took some prediction
thats as far as warr complexity goes
fury is just lmao
Though ngl reflecting a clone and winning off it is funny
When people get spicy in my shuffle games now I hit them with the Miss Rachel special https://youtube.com/shorts/juPW1au87Ck?feature=shared
healers love raging when i kill them in shuffle
Healer (disc): Rogue runs flag ill grip you mid
Me: Okay
Caps flag, runs mid, and whole team literally walks away from me to go fight efc
Dies
Healer: “Trash rogue”
We had a Pres evoker btw
I told them he should run it and they still said me

From your seasoned expertise standpoint, why do people say that type of nonsense? (Actual question - not inflammatory at all)
Idk this was a dk who couldnt chains of ice spam either
Woke up to being #73 assa in the US for shuffle 
First season trying to climb shuffle so pretty proud of myself.
My kids love that lady
I'm going to use her tactics as my mode of communication with shuffle teammates
The results are sure to be hilarious
Do yall use the ping function that much in shuffle? I feel like when my teammates use it, it generally helps for swapping
Might macro a target this guy ping on my deathmark
Cause it’s top 2 dmg abilities account usually for 60% + of their overall dmg is probably why
So people dont factor multi dotting , duration of applied dots repeatedly and decisions the assassin makes - then make crap up pretty much?
Me when a pad spec pads
possibly before/after the next awc rounds
maybe some after the mdi
Yes lmao
I’ll keep this in my dream
You want Dev nerfed? Because that's all that'll happen
Devourer or evoker?
I gave up on the Devourer dream lol
Lol damn
iam new to pvp kb and deatmark how do i want to use it in the start of the round do u always want to send it?
idk rlly when to hold cds
same with smoke bomb is that a thing i should only use for the guranteed kill?
Might be hard to give general answers. Have any clips of examples where you werent sure about your cd usage?
i just feel like everytime i do an all in
i never get the kill
but tbh idk how to even track cds and what cds classes have lol
Addons

MiniCC
do u need to fix anything in it?
Nope
ok ty ty
been playing without it have 0 clue when to pop off
also i have sudden demise but i prob never seen it be helpful to me when i check my dmg is it when they become around 35% i need to apply new bleeds in order for it to proc?
cause i havent seen somone get like rlly 1 shotted atm
It doesn’t proc at 35% in pvp
Procs at like 10% and requires a fair amount of bleed dmg to be applied at the time
Are you running the pinned build
Or the DTB shit
isnt feral supposed to be good
No
this guy couldnt help kill anything lmao
got dev DH to 2% got CC and feral couldnt close lol
Bite does like zdps
missed a nice 5-1 by like 30k health... RIP lol
They’re basically all bleed dmg rn and even that isn’t great at all
did outlaw get like a shadow buff cause pistol and sinister doing a lot of dmg today lol
Nop
pistol + sinister did 30% of my overall from that lobby
Yeah has absolutely no kill pressure even single target on dummies struggle to get above 85k dps with all cds rolling
It's not hard to do high damage in rounds spreading bleeds but it's just all fluff. Winning rounds is basically dependant on a good cyclone while the other dps unloads his cds lol
I know this is obvious but the 5% stam buff really made sudden demise harder to proc. I knew it would but im kinda amazed at how much less its procing now just after that stam buff
Those stamina changes look like nothing but are a lot of shit
I actually hate when blizzard inflates Total health
The game feels so dang sluggish right now
And I think it already felt slow before
Me too
The game just literally becomes which class can do more HP and less globals
Am I making things harder on myself for going Outlaw pvp vs Sub?
Do you guys prefer Assa or Sub for bgb?
Im swapping over from Feral, I like the stealth role but I got kind of bored doing clones + bleeds. I wanna do a little more burst for fun
Between those two I like Sub. Mega bursty and fills max combo pts fast.
Sub is more spammy. Assassin is a bit slower, depends on what you want
Sub is just the best for blitz for sure
No sub is kinda ass rn
Awesome man thanks. Flag caps I want to peel for healers really, and in group fights/cap maps lock down either the best players or heals
Trickz is right about everything he said but one caveat id add is outlaw is actually ass fucking busted on flag maps
Assa just feels so bad to play to me
Van said he doesn’t even go for the flag anymore but ye I agree
But if there’s a Pres in every lobby it makes sense not to kinda
No that makes it even better

Outlaw grabs flag, quad hooks half way across the map, hands off to the pres who double breaths immune to all CC the rest of the way
Shits disgusting
Troll not to on flag maps imo
I flag carry sometimes but I’m always trickster
Being able to cross half the map in 5 seconds just seems too broken
Half the time the healers don’t want me even picking
Most pres are uptight about it lmao
People want me to pick the flag as assa lmao
Which is kinda scuffed
I wish most of my lobby’s are weirdly against it idk
Is outlaw any fun on node maps though? Hook fc sounds fun but I want to be a pretty decent role-player on all the bgb maps if I can
The most annoying thing about Outlaw on node maps is not having a single button to AoE spin
If you dont have flurry
Youre just tab targeting pistol shots
Ahhhh I gotcha either way, sounds more than than my Feral. No hate towards feral by any means
Just KS them hoes

Everyone’s quiet must be busy queuing as outlaw
Fr
fresh assa
@potent pivot are friends shared across bnet accounts?
Or wow accounts rather
Dumb question, I thought about it more
finally in classic
Hi 

heyo
That reminds me of that guy that shot a nail into his skull to alleviate migraine pain
They'll go through crazy lengths to ease the pain
Took ya long enough 
have you queued your warr
Yeah and most groups now a days only do 3 spots which is super annoying
group im in has all5
Damn nice
just hit 2300 who wont me
Who wont him?
you got minicc active in world?
I haven't pvpd in a few days, what happend, is hunter OP (again)?
A veeryyy long day
took a small break
yea thanks for reminding me
i turned it off
bm is really good rn
i do not like that
It's time to power level warriors not rogues
lol it's an alright alt, could never main this class though
Ya miss rogue when you play warrior
literally any setup spec feels better
Which ones
Any
2.2 on assa, elite this weekend?
sounds like ina couple lobbys
Think I’m about caught up to the mmr I’ve gained so we’ll see
started leveling my DK
kinda liking this new ghoul thing instead of festering
or whatever the thing was called that used to be popped by scourge strike lol
havent played in almost 2 weeks 
Gonna do sub on this char to farm low cr for conquest so I can be fully geared lol

timewalk que is pretty instant right now... good time to level up alts
Thank you on my warrior's behalf
@stoic spruce this DK stuff is kinda fun
Lol we all have warriors now
!stats
These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.
- Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Haste>Crit
- Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw to lower the GCD during Adrenaline Rush. (25% for Trickster for energy) - Subtlety: Vers>Haste to 200 OR 600-700>Mastery>Crit
Sub now uses a haste threshold to extend Dance and shorten Secret Technique's CD.
Sub haste rating chart:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923898501529600/1483399511836725378/image.png?ex=69bc6d33&is=69bb1bb3&hm=21db8524f3add252a5f7556c91a39c6d076b5cbf29926a0ff3de6f1dad996660&
Yes sir, filthy fotm rerollers and proud, too.
hows outlaw post nerfs
im playing assa rn lol
havent tried outlaw tbh did a few 2s and bgb thats it
😭
Its alright, damage is decent still
i refuse to play assa for the 5th (?) season ina row
rather just be 1500 hardstuck as outlaw
@spring bough "just one more arms lobby"
jk it's warlock frost mage on mugambala
lol GL
i just think its stupid to stubbornly play 1 spec these days, im just so over the tuning cope
im gonna get good at all of them
but outlaw will be my full content main
2 rogues and a dh for me atm
Holyyyyyy
Nah
Only real chads main a spec these days
im only good on outlaw =/

My secret is I’m not good at any of them
he's me fr
yep
i don't think its possible to truly "have fun" being a 1 trick these days
Anyone knows how to beat a frost mage 1v1 who plays blink stun in open world PvP?
Seems pretty impossible they have 2 charges of that and alter time
And invis / mass invis
Only time I can win is if they are shimmer
They basically have to fuck up for you to win those
Sub/assa can’t keep up let alone lock them down
listen here the only rated content you've posted about was sub

icy
for sub, whats the best bg food stats? primary or vers?
devourer is such a stupid spec playing one game of it in a skirm has given me autism
I mean when the majority of what people play is solo queue based content why even swap
I'd swap if I was queueing 3s
But in solo I might as well play the spec I think is the most fun
because it still feels like ass to play something that sucks
your standing in rankings might be spec based, but the game is not
I guess I don't play those parts of the game anymore lol
Can't remember the last time I queued 3s
i'm talking about everything, shuffle included
no
your rank might be spec based, but that doesn't mean shit for gameplay
if you q a spec that is dog shit in shuffle, you aren't magically going to q into other dog shit specs
Oh sure yeah the players you will play with will be worse if your spec is bad
But unless a spec is turbo bad that's usually pretty negligible
imo there's quite a few specs rn where that is not negligible at all
why spend time playing something that is ass if you can have more fun on something else
Yeah I've tried chasing the "this specs op" thing in DF and it was more work than it was worth lol
Would be convenient if the specs I liked were all on the same class so I didn't have to have multiple things geared to swap
its fine to play however you want
lol
im personally just over this 1 trick mentality
its fun to learn other stuff
ofc
i dont want to get flamed, but 1 trick in wow brings only suffering and negative joy and fun
but like you said
stubbornly 1 tricking something
is just hurting your own fun in your free time
if you aren't having fun while doing the 1 tricking
its time to try new things
i find playing these alt specs takes any sort of pressure i put on myself off too
its nice learning sub is still aggravating af in shuffle tho
LOL
and it didn't have to be this way
but the cry babies endless rain of tears
sub was in a good spot
7 nerfs later, its got the worst dps in the game
i wonder why
so i went a little more mastery on the outlaw
and MG is pumping on trickster
doing 10% of my overall in shuffle lobbies lol

5-1 shuffle just now pumping this outlaw dmg
now im in a double ret and arms lobby with a preso and a resto sham.... FML
i dont feel very pumpy at all. 291 geared and i think i didnt gear correctly tbh.
Yeah its a meme
how is that even possible
1400 is legit backpedalling clicking one button rotation territory
We have a friend who will not allow himself to play any dps besides feral and sp. I’d kms
its very hard not to gear correctly on outlaw. you just put haste/vers in basically every slot.
i hate rating shaming but come on legit zero sense in mmr
I had a shuffle with markers rsham earlier it fucking sucked. Bro is doing full dam build in a shuffle as rsham
Wait what?
It’s the stupidest shit
Thats just what Markers does
When sp was insane in beta/early ssn he refused to play it
So he doesnt want to play anything thats considered good?
Makes sense
Lmaooo
He got 2.8k xp as sp last ssn in shuffle but wont list that xp bc it was a more inflated/last of expansion ssn. Everything about him makes no sense
Well I also dont list shuffle xp when applying for 3s groups
Yeah some ppl list both though. He was 2390 a few times just couldn’t get over the hump
Maybe he should play something good
pvp ques are going fast today
we going places
hope i see u in shuffle and gonna dust that warrior
brb training your healer
have tried telling him he just likes punishing himself ig
LF healers glad push 1.4k shuffle=2.4k blitz exp
love how my alt has more slivers than i'll ever need and my main only got 2 so far
if it were only true. id feel better about these losses im currently experiencing lol
2.4k blitz lf team no noob healers (tips fedora)
How many placements is bgb?
only got 30 pts for a win despite being 8-0 so far lmao
If you hit 1500cr the max rating you can get from winning is 36 points regardless of your CR and MMR
damn really?
how is bgb so inflated then
people just dont lose rating from losses?
Yeah
Mmr stays way higher than CR for a long time
You have to lose a ton
it was weird because my 8th game was same mmr as cr
despite no losses
but ig placements
i wish i could get PVE shards from pvp lol
a lot
boys
we might just get elite in shuffle on this lobby..... even after nerfs lol
2300 exactly boys we did it
now if i could only get a blitz win today....
King shit
alt time? lol
back to leveling the DK after all that lol
legend and strategist
12 wins for strategist gonna def try for that
idk about 100 more shuffle wins tho lol

2.2 on sub now so much for farming low cr
nerf rogues
Pve question for the boys; if I Re-kill a boss multiple times per week can I use a bonus roll each time
Chimaerus is a literal CUCK and keeps giving me dog shit
What spec you guys rocking for shuffle?
Sub mainly?
Just tried assa and it was kind of nice. Felt a little more straight forward to play than the other two. But I also felt easier to get killed.
outlaw all day every day
Still good post nerf? You use trickster?
Soon. I have every piece of gear now sans wep
I don't know if I'll have a lil too low haste and too much mastery tho
yeah i still play trick. its alright lol
20% haste in sub gear in pvp
No
Assa
You like it over sub?
Sub and to an extent outlaw i get a little over analysis paralysis. Trying to track DRs and cds
I like havoc too for it's simplicity but kind of trash tier atm
Do you worry much about off Cc on healer?
Like are you supposed to kidney the healer before each go?
I am going to say
Maybe I'm trying to play sub like pikaboo too much and just need to zug on one target more
Well piloted frost mages are just illegally good
Do not do that
The fact mages have double stun blink means you physically cannot ever stun a mage
I'm half tempted to just use stuns on off target only against mage teams
i mean this doesnt give you the option to do healer swaps
I do feel bad mages cant land polys without pre stuns
and yap the most about kidneying healers per go the most
step shiv his blink
and just hold w more
You can stun them to make them blink so they cant kite you the next time you connect. But good mages know to just sit the stun if they're not actually in any danger and save their blinks for when they really need them
Yeah I get it. Depending on what I face I just run DFA makes getting blocks a lot easier.
I pretty much run bomb/feint/Tricks every game unless I need disarm then I drop Tricks for that
I do that too, but I just don't know how you manage vs high kiting comps
Like frost mage/pres or rsham
What spec are you playing?
Like you are not connecting or you're just waddling to pillar
Sub rn
I burn vanish just for blink SS when it's going to get block even
Ok yeah. I mean Quick Decisions is nice. Id kill for that on assa
The urge to waste both vanishes for strike after no steps is strong
Thats not always a waste
Its a perfectly reasonable thing to do
For sure. Pick your moments kinda thing
Quick is good but a lil teammate dependent
I do run it occasionally
I just really like DFA into mage if there's not a disarm target over tricks specifically frost mage only thi
Just high risk high reward depending on context
What?
Isn't quick decisions the reduce CD on step to ally
I'm not at my desk
Thats silhouette
Which one is quick
Step cdr and range. Surely you run it
I wish this was on the class tree so bad
Although as assa i dont really need to connect as much
I legit only need to be on the targer for like 3 seconds every minute
The funniest thing is when they keep doing it every round despite dying to it every time
Like bro how many times do you have to die in a kidney>bomb to realize trinketing that disarm isnt the correct move
i mean the best part is when they somewhat wise up
then someone else becoms a viable target instead
The fact you can disarm while being disarmed is the most infuriating thing ever. Oh look I'll disarm you and now I'm disarmed. Feels like I'm disarming myself every time I press the button
That’s usually the case when you’re reminding them they’re running it

Just disarm their go and don't use yours after you disarm
Or you just disarm off of your stun to just keep them down and frustrate them and delay things
Or don’t run disarm and take the go like a chad
Yeah you're just asking for it
LMAO
i recalled in TWW blink was 1 charge
now it's 2 lol
1 charge blinking out of stun i can understand
who thought giving mages 2 charges of stun immunity is good
on a 15s CD
every1 got pruned and mage somehow gains util? lolol
Lost blast wave and the thing that gives CDR they channel
They lost some but not like it matters since they're still the slipperiest class in the game 
Isn’t mass invisible new tho
nah mass invis isnt new
Nah just wasnt played much
99% sure they picked better talents over that
It's not new but it is new 1min cooldown and mage have double blink stun not just shimmer and that is FUCKING stupid
If mage plays correct they cannot be stunned ever on DR
It's not new
Thanks
Ye
Can’t type unless u a poly elite
Lolol
I don't remember that from HALO
Outlaw just doms mages
1 more level and I’m about to gear a DK out and hit solo with it
Chapter books doms mages too
I think I'm a closeted warrior main because lately when I get in arguments I tell them to post their bench and that's all I got @potent pivot
ITS NOT NEW BRO
am i gonna have fun with DK in shuffle or nah
im not playing frost no way lmao
If they try to counter your 45s goes and not your 90s
unholy all the way
It's fun but it ain't that great
They patched the thing that was doing big dam one shots
Turns out it was a bug
Shocker I know
army + DT feels great leveling up
Honestly the spec is just fun in general
A little boring but frankly all specs in the game are rn
So I don't see "boring" as a valid argument
survival is my next 90
boomstick kinda fun
I may have to pve to practice that though
fk traps just ball
Sheeeit when you put it like that
just land 1 good frost trap
and boomstick
I haven't played it since beta
Damn I want to level my hunter but I'm going on vacation soon
do it now timewalk is fast asf
Work week, I'll see what I can do between shifts
Wait isn't it turbulent time waves rn?
no?
UHDK decked in honor gear bout to rip a solo shuffle
Glhf
That’s in the .7 patch
Timewalking is rn
