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dark kernel
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It's a weekly purchase. I missed two weeks of Mythic gear quality my item level is just low

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It's just free item level I threw away

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Just piss

spring bough
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🤷‍♂️

grave basin
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huh

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it stacks

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you can have 6/6 now you didnt miss anything

dark kernel
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I literally stopped the week they came out

gleaming sentinel
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You should be able to
Buy them all

spring bough
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deep breaths brother

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itll all be okay

halcyon timber
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Requesting more combat logs ,DM if willing to contribute

severe helm
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Yeah you can buy them all at once

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I was full 6 weeks behind.

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Had to do fucking 18 dungeons

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To even unlock t

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But then bought them all

gleaming sentinel
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I’ve gotten the entire pit of saron loot table except the dagger lol

dark kernel
grave basin
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all i know is playing ranged is so chill

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mechanics? idgaf

severe helm
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ranged is comically easier yeah

spring bough
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Back to the Devourer DH…. That 5% nerf feels like nothing 😂

timber osprey
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When two rogues pop out of stealth to gank the same target.

grave basin
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my gaze was giving me 271 int

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holy shit

spring bough
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so many fotm warriors in shuffle.....

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pure LOS zug zug kings

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lol

alpine tinsel
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is assa using 4 poisons? or just amp crip and wound

potent pivot
alpine tinsel
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what other builds are there?

potent pivot
molten hedge
spring bough
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might level an enhance shaman.... they had so many buttons pruned lol

proven kayak
molten hedge
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Ofc you don’t always play cap or pvp talent for static but that’s a lot of utility

spring bough
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Like the doom thing gets replaced by ascendance. The volcanic button replaces flame shock

molten hedge
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Oh ok. Yeah that’s good it had way too many

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I remember hearing a stat in DF that enh had 17 buttons to get their rotation ramped

spring bough
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Have space to keybind the utility stuff now 😂

molten hedge
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Feral decurse is one of my faves bc it dispels chim sting silence from hunters

solid gulch
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anyone geared an alt with 3x crafted gear? trying to figure out best way to get the 240 mythic crests, wondering what ilvl +9s feel okay

solid gulch
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radiance pieces

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i’m trying the Nahj technology

gilded gulch
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if you're trying to pug

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you will get spam declined

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below 280

solid gulch
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i’ll be pushing my own keys and that’s cap

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280 for a +9 not getting spam declined

gilded gulch
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its basically true as a dps

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if you're below 280

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the crafted thing barely matters now since we're practically at conq cap

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this week

solid gulch
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sending my own key anyways

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still 3 weeks out no?

gilded gulch
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no?

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for pvp cap

potent pivot
solid gulch
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i thought it was 2 at least

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yes

potent pivot
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like there's not really any advantage

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to doing pve for pvp gear now

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we have conq level gear in basically every slot now

twin wren
potent pivot
twin wren
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Ill record one if i can that ok?

potent pivot
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ofc

fathom crag
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yea record & send it here

spring bough
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lol

proven kayak
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I was dcd in blitz before I get 1950 and lost 150 rating☠️

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Maybe more

outer sky
proven kayak
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yeah cba kinda unluckly tho

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my driver crushed

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i mean come on i cant get mad but whats the chances 😄

twin wren
analog tapir
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ait im in a dueling event! eeh give me tips how to defeat a mage in duel pls it's an emergency xD

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sub rogue

potent pivot
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Try to bait them into fucking up

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See if you can bait their blinks and trinket without sending full CDs

lavish flint
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omgggggggg i got trolled xD

potent pivot
spring bough
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mage went bye bye

dark kernel
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what do I see

spring bough
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god damnit lol

dark kernel
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LOL

spring bough
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this shaman cant catch a break

spring bough
dark kernel
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I don't have any lobbies with meep, I just have lobbies with Cdew between his gambling

spring bough
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I was playing imp bte charger there and it did poop dmg

dark kernel
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I actually might get to put some time in Outlaw in the next week. Playing catch up with my conquest

spring bough
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I’m going back to lethality / finding opp lol

molten hedge
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For…commentary

spring bough
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i hope he didnt remember me lmao

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2522 in blitz we climbing boys

gleaming sentinel
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lol

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Like, mythic plus gear players

stoic spruce
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No pvp today boys

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Replaced gasket and it's still leaking oil

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Might be the cap since the gasket on that is hard and doesn't really screw on right

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After that idk

hybrid sapphire
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literally where are the incels its saturday

severe helm
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Is that a Honda?

stoic spruce
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Dodge

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I spent $215 on new spark plugs and coils too just in case

spring bough
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i think im done with outlaw in shuffle lmao

severe helm
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Uh oh

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How far down are you

spring bough
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i was up now just went down again lmao

stoic spruce
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Like a cockroach

hybrid sapphire
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Resto Druid started raging bc I step DR blinded him and he lost then I step blinded him next match and he lost again. Tough

grave basin
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tell him smallest dogs barks the loudest

stoic spruce
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Tell him that's what he gets for not playing a real class

odd yew
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Tips against arms as sub? I'm just getting rolled by every single one

hybrid sapphire
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what are you dying to @odd yew

odd yew
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Typically I just have no couter play to demolish, I can trinket a stun and insta disarm it but shockwave, fear, stormbolt into demolish just eat me alive

hybrid sapphire
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do you run preemp

odd yew
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Yes

gleaming sentinel
spring bough
stoic spruce
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I've been doing casual pve and it's good enough tbh

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Idk

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Cba to take the game seriously atm

gleaming sentinel
gilded gulch
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hearing braindead class

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from a guy playing ret paladin

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and dk

fading yacht
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for sub rogue pvp, are we crafting our necks and rings?

potent pivot
fading yacht
potent pivot
gilded gulch
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ngl how are there so many people at 1800-1900 in shuff with over 700 games

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as a dps

molten hedge
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bc mmr keeps you at the rating you belong

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and if you don't improve you stay dur

gilded gulch
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always perma career sub 2k andys

proven kayak
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If someone complains about rogue at the current state class is,it’s clearly a skill issue.

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Also if you think ret palas are annoying as rogue you can’t imagine how annoying are as survival 😭😭

potent pivot
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I see people that are 1.6-2k with like 1k+ rounds all the time

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Today I saw a 1600 devourer that had literally nothing on except pvp crafted haste/mast gear

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The only vers they had came from their free conquest weapons foxdding

dark moon
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Apparently its hidden op if they don't train the dh

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Not sure how, but it's a real thung amongst the batman spec community

analog tapir
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@potent pivot @lime oar @gilded gulch i got my ass klicked 3 times by the same mage

potent pivot
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its ok bud

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not a good match up for sub atm

alpine tinsel
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Can assa do the poison build from DF still or did our nodes change enough its not worth it?

molten sentinel
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First shuffle as sub. Well well well thanks blizzard

forest laurel
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hi ive got 5 Galactic Voidsilvers, should I use these on my Conq weapons? or keep it for the Thalassaian Competitor's vers/mast daggers? (sub rogue)

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oo i think it only works on conq weapons, thought i read differently somewhere...

proven kayak
molten sentinel
proven kayak
lime oar
grave basin
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placement games every lobby has a leaver

grave basin
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the funny thing is that the warrior was going me whole game

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priest just playing with both eyes closed

gusty hedge
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was there another mage ? or just you ?

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funny if it were only you when they typed it then noticed u were on their team and just left OMEGAKEKW

grave basin
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yeap

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that's exactly what happened

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placement games are the wild west

upbeat fable
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sin poisons - amp, wound, crippling, numbing?

spring bough
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How goes outlaw today

gusty hedge
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been a few days garf_sit

spring bough
spring bough
gilded gulch
gilded gulch
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only mh really matters though

spring bough
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why did i que shuffle... instant pop and just reflex clicked enter... 🤦‍♂️

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enhance shamans absolutely dumping dmg right now lol

gusty hedge
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those insta ques feel good but always a fucked lobby OMEGAKEKW most of the time

outer sky
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I just got two 6-0s on my warrior in a row

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And im still undergeared by 6 ilvls

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And Idk what im even doing

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I literally forget to press Rally/Intervene most games

potent pivot
potent pivot
latent sinew
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what can i do with conquest points when im full ilvl?

outer sky
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WW/Ele sham is a DISGUSTING comp omg

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like every 30s you can get globaled

outer sky
halcyon timber
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Anyone with current up to date -geared characters of any non rogue spec able to tell me the following (pvp only - can view by hitting dummy)

  • spec/race
  • hp (stamina rating and actual hit points)
  • armor (amount and DR %)
  • talent loadout and armory link)

If interested Please DM to help with data collection purposes

vocal surge
potent pivot
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Or will the ~1 missing gear piece not really matter

halcyon timber
grave basin
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Saw astral glad mes ystd in a 1400 blitz lose

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What a meme bracket

gleaming sentinel
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yea...

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3k peak last season, genuinely hardstuck 1400

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atm

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lol

grave basin
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If you lose your placements it's actually over

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The mmr swings are too much

gleaming sentinel
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Team fight maps with fresh characters. Nothing I can do

mystic tundra
grave basin
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I just want the 1800 mage set 😔

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The high warlord mog*

rough rock
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i swear these crate groups get cringer with dumb rules by the day

severe helm
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the only ones ive ever seen are WM on, be in silvermoon to start so you dont phase any of the zones, and have the addon

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oh and dont be in a fucking queue

rough rock
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min pvp ilvl, and this one doesnt even do the addon they insist on just doing raid warnings

severe helm
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MIN PVP ILVL?

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no shot

rough rock
severe helm
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bro

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120

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lol

rough rock
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Insisting on only using raid warning is frying me tho

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"Just listen to the 500 pings from me you dont need addon"

severe helm
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I mean

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they cant stop you

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just use the addon

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who cares

rough rock
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yeah ik

severe helm
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the addon is usually what does the raid warnings

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thats just a button in the addon

rough rock
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This mfer just sends 500 rw's every minute its so annoying

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any outlaws gonna be crafting anything after cap?

severe helm
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yeah thast the addon

potent pivot
rough rock
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lmao

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i seen someone once not even max level just doing it for honor and "exp"

potent pivot
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and he left, complaining about the raid warnings

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but like

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the addon just does that shit by itself lol..

rough rock
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I dont mind the addon, its the people that spam it over and over for no reason

potent pivot
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sometimes thats just it bugging out

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especially when the RL changes zones

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but if they're just spam clicking the addon thats weird yea

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"voidstorm in 40"
"voidstorm in 40"
etc

rough rock
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theres no wpvp vendor is there like we had in tww?

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like for that item that pulls people off mounts and what not

potent pivot
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no idea tbh

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ppl def have the dismount thingy still

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idk if its just the one from tww still or what

stiff cedar
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Netomatic 5000 just still works i think

fathom crag
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craft weapons

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and put void embellish

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  • hunt im p sure
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ill do that at least

rough rock
fathom crag
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its the best for sure

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void + hunt

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in awc you play void + the neck so i assume that neck is now nerfed by a lot you run void + hunt

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in pve they play hunt + 1 arcanoweave

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im debating either hunt + arcano OR void + hunt

potent pivot
fathom crag
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i just assumed it’s good in pve so surely it’s gotta be good OMEGAKEKW

potent pivot
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it mainly gives mastery in pvp

fathom crag
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then void + arcanoweave i guess

potent pivot
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sec

fathom crag
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ok my bad

potent pivot
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no sweat

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i was wondering

fathom crag
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then i guess u do void ?

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how often goid procs tho

potent pivot
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void is only used in pve because they craft weapon early

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then they replace with arcano/iris

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so idk tbh

fathom crag
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saw they played void in awc

potent pivot
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i will prolly just stick with arcano myself

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but i already have the opinion that ppl sweat vers too hard

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so i could be the odd one out idk

fathom crag
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im gna remove the engi vers

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1 item i think

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i want to aim 25% haste

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after playing w 25 in pve it felt rly smooth

potent pivot
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fatebound feels insanely smooth

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with 24-25%

rough rock
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yeah i need to drp the engi goggles eventually

potent pivot
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even on 1 rolls

rough rock
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i have 20% crit and 17% haste outside of pvp

fathom crag
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u play fatebound now ? i haven’t pvp in a week tbh

rough rock
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need to switch it up

potent pivot
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trickster is barely ahead in dps

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like ~1% type shit

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and that requires taking KS and using it

fathom crag
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ye fuck that

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hate killingspree

rough rock
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i wish it was good :(

potent pivot
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fatebound just has way better energy, rotation, 4hook, etc

rough rock
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or at least a node to make it st or aoe

fathom crag
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i agree i always wanted fatebound to be meta anyway

potent pivot
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being able to finish on 5cp just flows way better

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than trickster's 6cp finishers

rough rock
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i know i keep saying this but idk why with FB i feel like i get WAY MORE refunds from bte

halcyon timber
fathom crag
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can u get 25% haste with 4set tho? and not losing much vers

rough rock
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instead of it being random aoe

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def needs a dmg buff tho

halcyon timber
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Would you think people are just using it on cd currently?

rough rock
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Nobody really runs it

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we only ran it because of trickster

halcyon timber
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Tracking, thank you for that

potent pivot
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i'm even running a crit piece on mine iirc

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with the 3% vers talent i'm at like 26%, zero engi items though

rough rock
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oh wait i forgot im running the crit gems for trickster gotta swap those back to haste

potent pivot
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crit is still banger

broken jewel
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I haven't capped for 2 weeks . Affraid to que cus of being behind in gear xd

rough rock
potent pivot
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i'm at like 25% haste

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26% vers with the vers talent

rough rock
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wtf

potent pivot
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lemme check

rough rock
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hold on let me go back to silvermoon

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send gear if you can

potent pivot
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u have way more crit

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than me

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iirc

rough rock
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yeah i think its the gems

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plus on of my craft rings is crit

potent pivot
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its the ring then

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i have like 4 vers>crit gems

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and i think i bought crit cloak

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but i don't remember

rough rock
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could also be my goggles

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cause im at 26% verse with talent

potent pivot
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ye i lied

rough rock
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ah you have wayyyy less crit than me

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im sitting at 20% outside of pvp haha

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lemme recraft ring

potent pivot
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i have crit cloak, crit dagger

rough rock
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which addon is that btw

potent pivot
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and 3 vers>crit gems

potent pivot
wanton breach
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4set is a sub thing?

potent pivot
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tf

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!tier

wanton breach
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Xdd

potent pivot
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dangit Moroes

wanton breach
potent pivot
rough rock
potent pivot
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ummm

rough rock
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thanks

potent pivot
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yee

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its good if u make it good

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its terrible out of the box

rough rock
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lol that one recraft

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did a 4% gain

potent pivot
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i really want to just run 20% vers and more crit

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i think vers is overly relied upon and really not as good as ppl think idk

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plenty of room for crit in s2/s3 though ig

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if outlaw is worth a damn

vocal surge
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Playing Everquest 2 again

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and forgot poisons in that MMO last 12hrs

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lol

potent pivot
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i really need a fking warrior mog

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like

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BAD

vocal surge
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with the Garrosh mog

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and Gorehowl

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🙂

potent pivot
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i need something good i can buy with marks of honor or something

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i have like zero plate mogs

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i have a few elites but i don't like em

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need to get plate t3

vocal surge
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What type of mog you thinking of?

rough rock
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i like the black elite one from tww

potent pivot
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idek

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i need to go farm some old raids or something too i think

rough rock
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im doing the undermine rn

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want the red set lol

potent pivot
rough rock
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the pirate looking one

potent pivot
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the rogue undermine set?

rough rock
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yeah

potent pivot
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how are you farming that raid

rough rock
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im forming a group rn

potent pivot
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Oh tf lol

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I want to farm the DF leggo 2h

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And og Thunderfury garf_sit

grave basin
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Df leggo takes 5-6 weeks

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Then you gotta do the dumbass superbloom event

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Over and over and over and over

potent pivot
red pebble
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I play assa shuffles with DtB+sudden demise and feel perma energy starved outside of kingsbane windows. Would talenting dashing scoundrel make much of a difference in terms of energy regen?

wanton breach
molten hedge
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Lotta talk about outlaw in here tn what goin on

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I did some pirate 2s earlier was fun

grave basin
potent pivot
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idk why most ppl play that scuffed dtb+sudden demise build, other than its what icyveins had posted

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but yes dashing helps

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and so does playing around the energy refund of assa's apex talents

potent pivot
molten hedge
red pebble
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Umm cause we get more burst with double envenoms?

red pebble
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Theres some weird talent that gives you envenom dam increase when you envenom while envenom is active

potent pivot
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rapid injection

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zoldycks is just stronger

molten hedge
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TIME TO PUT YA DYCK ON

long shore
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is it me, or is the bloody token gear transmorg like 5x better than the elite set for rogues?

who the heck designed the elite set to look like questing gear.

stoic spruce
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It is

dark moon
harsh kiln
outer sky
keen canopy
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ey man, all the 300000000000 warriors that run that mog

they've know what they like and what they like goes hard whether it's original or not

outer sky
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Mag'har orc is a close 2nd but this is def my fav

grave basin
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How are you finding warrior

alpine tinsel
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how does assa beat ww and enh right now? Ik I'm supposed to sun the monk during his burst but I'm not sure what to look out for, and it feels like I can never stun them for some reason

outer sky
grave basin
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Yea i feel the same way

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Idk how people can main warrior

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Feels like rogue/hunter/mage are premier main classes for me

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Or maybe uh dk when it's not turbo shit

outer sky
# alpine tinsel how does assa beat ww and enh right now? Ik I'm supposed to sun the monk during ...

WW monks have a PvP talent called Turbo Fists. It makes it so they have a 100% parry chance while chanelling Fists of Fury (also makes Fists of Fury slow you by 90% for its whole duration). So if you kidney into it directly they'll just parry it. That's probably why youre having a hard time stunning them. So what you need to do is either:

A. Don't kidney during Fists of Fury
B. Vanish/meld and Cheap Shot them if you need to stun them during it (cheap shot cannot be dodged, blocked, or parried)
Or C. Shadowstep>kidney during Fists of Fury (step puts you behind the target and you can't dodge, block, or parry anything from the back)

grave basin
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I dont see how assa loses against ww

alpine tinsel
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Omfg thank you. I should have known all that by now

grave basin
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Especially if theres a pillar where you can bleed and kite

alpine tinsel
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Ez it’s because I’m bad

grave basin
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Legit you can spam vivify non stop and you cant outheal garrote rupture

alpine tinsel
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I’m also not like dueling them. It’s in SS

grave basin
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In SS it's way more than just ww or enhance specific problems

outer sky
# grave basin I dont see how assa loses against ww

They can 100-0 an assa rogue in a leg sweep if it doesnt get pre-feinted. So yeah on paper its a favorable match up for the rogue but one mistake and you get caught in a sweep without a trinket or feint and it's just over

grave basin
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You should have two kidneys for every sweep so if you dont kill by 2nd kidney idk hes just kiting the fuck outa you or something

alpine tinsel
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It was a WW/enh/havoc lobby with one healer an hpal so it was already rough as assa. I was feinting nonstop but struggling to peel the monk who was cranking

outer sky
grave basin
outer sky
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The problem is sometimes your teammates troll and put em on DR

grave basin
outer sky
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Some generally good advice I can give is to try and save DRs for enemy CDs

alpine tinsel
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Oh for sure all the amount of times I can’t even get a sap on the healer because my teammates just send it right out of the gates is insane

outer sky
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Like vs a boomie I try and not stun/silence them until they incarn

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Because I want full DRs to peel that

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Same with zenith, ascendance, trueshot, combust, etc

alpine tinsel
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Zenith is the burst I think I’m missing

outer sky
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Yeah thats their big damage

alpine tinsel
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We can’t disarm that either right?

outer sky
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Which matters

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But its not that big

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They can still murder you while disarmed

grave basin
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Disarm doesnt stop anything

outer sky
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Stops FoF

grave basin
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You rsk zenith rsk bok rwk

outer sky
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Yeah it doesnt actually stops the burst

grave basin
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Fof is only filler so it doesnt matter

outer sky
grave basin
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When you rwk a mage for 150k when hes 20 yards away

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The dopamine is off the charts

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Like BOOM bitch

molten hedge
outer sky
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Slayer takes damage out of MS and puts it into overpower

molten hedge
grave basin
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Next dr

outer sky
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Dont have to wait for an hp threshold

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Dont have to spec into Massacre

molten hedge
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Slayer is way better than colossus in some lobbies

outer sky
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Its just annoying not being able to move while using Demolish

outer sky
molten hedge
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Rule of thumb rn is melee lobs colo, caster lobs slayer

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Yes

grave basin
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Someone check pikas warriors win lose in shuff

grave basin
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Was 17 1

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Bro fell off

molten hedge
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That’s crazy bc I was about to say 21-9 bro fell off

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Took the words out my mouth

grave basin
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Funny cause NA loves their warriors

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2.1k stats on drustvar filtered for last 7 days and brown class is up there by a mile

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Imagine playing sv, couldnt be me

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Top 2 melee and top 2 ranged are so absurdly strong the 3rd place is close to half of first place in terms of representation

outer sky
# grave basin

Dammit assa gaining popularity. I knew this would happen. Gunna be hard to sandbag for buffs now.....

grave basin
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Theres probably not gonna be any tuning for a while

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Just a hunch

outer sky
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My arms warrior is almost fully geared which means it has a 100% chance of getting nerfed within a week. Just like how blizzard announced massive outlaw nerfs literally an hour after I capped conq and finished gearing mine.

grave basin
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Thank you for your service

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Although id rather face melee cleaves than hogwarts any day

potent pivot
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lord knows next thing they've got coming down the pipeline is
"retribution paladin: all damage increased by 15%"
"hammer of justice now has 2 charges"

grave basin
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Lay on hands now heals a nearby target

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As well

molten hedge
severe helm
dark moon
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Ew

cobalt pewter
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the world is healing

gleaming sentinel
cobalt pewter
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Warrior could use another buff true

dark moon
lime oar
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warr on top is fine, i love it

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mages and ret tho

grave basin
severe helm
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Maybe hot take, easy specs should never be tuned above B tier

cobalt pewter
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bm hunter?

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agree

severe helm
#

Yeah it's all subjective

dark moon
#

Aren't all specs easy now?

dark kernel
dark moon
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I don't think their discord admins would let that slide OMEGAKEKW

#

Shit will be nuked harder than the Predator self-destructed after Arnold won the fight

fathom crag
#

on eu no1 plays warrior

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or ret warrior

grave basin
#

Its the swifty fanbase that just grew older

twin wren
cobalt pewter
grave basin
#

you got ps and just kept training him even though the other two dps werent on stun dr and you can just swap with a kidney with a gouge on the PSed priest

twin wren
#

Oh god. So it's the fundamentals? 😂

#

#cry

grave basin
#

idk feels like your goes arent clean either

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this was the last go before you lost and it was on the rog with trinket and his healer was free

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so you woulda gotten fear bombed either by the demo or the priest himself

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either way theres no cross

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idk maybe @fathom crag can spare some thoughts

fathom crag
#

ill watch l8r

grave basin
#

@outer sky

twin wren
#

I feel like it's all my fault we lose. Are we playing it badly as a team? Am I just terrible?

quick temple
#

forgot about this guy

stoic spruce
#

I didn't...

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Does it still work? I have it downloaded but I haven't updated it since the add on thing

quick temple
#

jus tried and no :/

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i didnt think sound efx woulda got nuked too

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used to love this weakaura too

outer sky
grave basin
#

yea @twin wren did you take the vid down?

twin wren
#

Nope

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Worked for me... Oh my phone too

stoic spruce
#

Worked for me too

#

Also on my phone

outer sky
grave parcel
#

Guys what to upgrade first with the slivers? First weapons then trinkets or?

twin wren
#

Legend. Lemme know if we should be playing it different to how we are if that's ok. Happy to tell my mates what the issues are outside just me. I'm sure I'm the root cause though 🙁

verbal kite
#

Hey guys, how is outlaw after the nerfs? Is it OK for blitz?

rough rock
#

Zicore: "1:54 just terrible what are you even doing"

#

(random timestamp just making a joke)

twin wren
#

LOL

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It basically was that the entire way through 😄

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As I expected, im not doing great

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@outer sky - thank you

outer sky
twin wren
#

I know 😛 im kidding. It was fantastic response thank you

stoic spruce
#

bro was not kidding btw

#

I saw your game

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@rough rock oy

rough rock
stoic spruce
#

I forgot, carry on

rough rock
spring bough
rough rock
#

🪂

quick temple
#

why does trickster prefer spending at 6+ compared to fate

molten hedge
quick temple
#

is it cus deal fate threatens overcapping?

proven kayak
#

After the unfortunate Dc event and the -150 rating I got back to 2k

#

✌️

#

Although a smooth sail ret palas are not real people

waxen meteor
#

Is leveling fast nowadays?

outer sky
potent pivot
#

The normal way to finish for rogue specs has generally always been “max -1”

potent pivot
potent pivot
#

Can follow an addon or spam a delve

potent pivot
pine ibex
#

Why does sub goes with sword in offhand

outer sky
pine ibex
#

Icyveins is shit then?

#

In pvp i mean ofc

outer sky
rough rock
#

^

outer sky
#

Not using a dagger offhand for sub is extremely troll

pine ibex
#

Oh ok

outer sky
#

Big dps loss

pine ibex
#

Yeah lol i was wondering

#

Like why would I

potent pivot
#

😤

pine ibex
#

Also 2 tier or 4 tier set?

potent pivot
#

4

pine ibex
#

Is it worth having the 4 pve tierset?

#

Okay

potent pivot
#

if its 289 then it doesn't really matter

#

!tier

lethal roostBOT
#

Assassination: 2 set - Helm/Shoulders
Outlaw: 4 set - Helm/Shoulders/Gloves/Legs
Subtlety: 4 set - Helm/Shoulders/Gloves/Legs

pine ibex
#

oh lol i thought assa would have 4 set

outer sky
#

Its nerfed 50% in pvp so it makes garrote cost 5 less energy and mutilate/fan of knives deal 12.5% more damage

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At the cost of a lot of mastery/vers

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Even if it was completely unnerfed in pvp

#

It would still be questionable

spring bough
#

CC is beyond broken in this game

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id go so far as to say delete it all and start from scratch im so tired of sitting in these fears and clones nonstop

potent pivot
#

@broken jewel gotta use the in game resources for lfg/trade

broken jewel
#

yeah , np. found right now. after 30 mins xd. outland so few ppl left:(

stoic spruce
#

And can never be super busted AND have the tier set look good

spring bough
#

dawg i just wanna play shuffle and not get shit on right now

#

atleast blitz has more teammates to carry me

#

its like if i could just do a lil more dmg id tilt the games in my favor but noooopeeee fucking blizzard ruins its all

teal plank
#

For sub is it better to craft LW pieces or eng pieces?

potent pivot
#

just try to stay around ~20% vers

teal plank
#

i tought crafted was always better than conq

potent pivot
#

you shouldn't need much conq pieces to have ~20% vers

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like cloak and maybe 1 other item

#

considering we will craft mastery daggers once conq uncaps

spring bough
#

this one felt good boys

hybrid sapphire
#

good evening rogues whats the good news

spring bough
#

14 more for strategist boys

#

win a game and ret tells me im throwing but i 3 capped FR for us??

hybrid sapphire
#

rets dont know what theyre talking about ever

#

they literally just say stuff. its a medical mystery

spring bough
#

blitz ques are taking less than 2 minutes for each pop tonight lol

quick temple
#

im so tilted im jus gonna see what games are like at 3 digit rating

graceful ether
#

is there a point to getting a gladiator weapon if i have mythic dagger already

#

like, mostly just transmog right

potent pivot
#

but

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can u even upgrade it to 298 yet

#

because in pvp we already have 2 298 weapons and trinkets

spring bough
hybrid sapphire
#

can you not /afk out of pvp anymore? it hasnt worked at all

spring bough
#

Test it out in a rated lmk how it works

potent pivot
hybrid sapphire
#

i turned that off but maybe it turned itself back on

stiff cedar
# potent pivot wasn't that from an addon

I thought /afk auto kicked you from game and various addons had a setting to where if you typed /afk itd convert it into a Surrender so you still got the scoreboard and the honor from completing it

potent pivot
#

i'm not even sure anymore tbh

willow tartan
#

!stats

lethal roostBOT
#

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

long shore
#

what do you guys think of Outlaw for mainly

Shuffle / World PVP / BGs

is that better compared to Sub rogue?

rough rock
long shore
#

i wanted to try outlaw on my alt

#

so wanted to see how people feel about outlaw vs sub

#

in shuffle / world pvp / bgs

grave basin
#

In wpvp you dont ever wanna play a sustain spec

#

Gotta hit and run

long shore
#

thought i could get away with the outlaw zug train

#

double grapple in BGs seem fun though

gusty hedge
untold vortex
#

Hello, a friend told me that he saw pikaboos rogue stream and he said theres a very important macro thats a must to have to play rogue you know which one he means ?

spring bough
compact cloud
#

guys in skill capped Outlaw now figures as S TIER, why?? what happened? xD

stoic spruce
#

They haven't updated yet

strange kestrel
#

Hi, I'm sort of new to the game and pvp and was just in a rated bg, I was in a 1v1 with another rogue, and all of a sudden they sent me absolutely flying miles away, I forgot to check what spec they were playing, so was just wondering if that was apart of the outlaw spec ?

ocean thunder
#

Darn some days are so frustrating.
If i CC healer no one dies, if idont CC heaelr no one dies while classes like hunters just spam dmg and maaaaaybe land a trap and win

ocean thunder
#

Not sure how good assa is on this meta

potent pivot
#

Rogue does not have a knock back

strange kestrel
#

i thought so, i looked online but couldnt find anything

potent pivot
#

They were probably just using the kul tiran racial

sharp sierra
ocean thunder
#

i am having difficulties because in maaany lobbies i cant double bleed

#

for example frost mage is so elusive that i can't guarantee healer being CCed and me having any uptime

#

CCing healer means i am wasting gap closers

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and I die inside when hunters cant CC even when i stun healers for them

untold vortex
#

is here any high rated rogue ready to help ?

potent pivot
sharp sierra
ocean thunder
#

you might be right in both ends, i should record some games.

#

My tactic more or less was to CC healer, have bleeds applied and use my vanishes to double silence and maybe CS healer so that my bleeds and my team mate forces the kill

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and I usually spread my KB and deathmark

#

my main is kinda sitting at like 2150 but my alt is (not nelf) ping ponging from 1930 to 2070 for some days now

#

its annoying

#

I am thinking of how to improve and I was like "I need to coordinate better with my team mate", like "maybe i should focuson when my team mate pops so i can CC healer at that point instead of conveniently randomly blind"

#

not there yet though

potent pivot
#

@gusty hedge What

stoic spruce
#

what my goat do?

spring bough
stoic spruce
#

#FreeServo

grave basin
#

did he say naughty words

#

@gusty hedge test

spring bough
grave basin
#

see you guys in classic+

#

we rolling horde or ally

#

@potent pivot

spring bough
grave basin
#

imagine if blizzard gave a shit

pastel burrow
#

Ally bro, male dwarf rogue is the funniest combo in classic

grave basin
stoic spruce
spring bough
grave basin
#

someone made it in thier basement

#

as a mock up

spring bough
#

Why do I see Venruki hairline

grave basin
#

cause it's his stream

#

lol

spring bough
#

Why you watching that scrub

stoic spruce
#

Blizz changing pvp is like the pinnacle of "if its too good to be true it probably is"

grave basin
spring bough
grave basin
#

2hrs

#

prayge for my devourer

spring bough
#

When did you become a DH

grave basin
#

when i realised i could be a leather dual wielding zoom spec that isnt ww

#

or rog

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and still be ranged

potent pivot
stoic spruce
gleaming sentinel
grave basin
#

my weener is adequate (ask your mom)

grave basin
grave basin
#

or maybe theyre back already, but they went to discuss something big

#

as well as turtle wow being shut down, so the writting is on the wall

spring bough
stoic spruce
#

as long as rogue has on target CP, I dont care what they do with Classic+. It's an automatic deal breaker for me

spring bough
#

They all got a preview of classic plus

#

As long as rogue combo points are on character and not per target SIGN ME UP

grave basin
#

ngl i dont think that's happening

#

at best we get redirection from cata

stoic spruce
#

im inclined to believe with you

dark kernel
#

I can't wait for classic wow to die

stoic spruce
#

idk about that now

#

def doesnt need this many versions though

potent pivot
#

games up whattt

gleaming sentinel
#

Get rid of world buffs in classic and ill consider it

maiden gull
outer sky
#

Even before I verified it wasn't real I knew it wasnt

#

Because theres actually some good ideas there

#

So obviously its fake

#

This is the main give away

#

Blizzard would NEVER

stoic spruce
#

I bet Ven made this

outer sky
potent pivot
stoic spruce
#

also I do believe IF they were to do something like that, they shouldnt choose an absolute sweaty R1

twin wren
#

Zicore is amazing! Genuinely he turned my gameplay around! @ocean thunder

stoic spruce
#

somewhere in the middle

spring bough
#

Was actually life changing for classic lol

maiden gull
gleaming sentinel
maiden gull
#

classic pvp is boring af, change my mind

spring bough
outer sky
#

@potent pivot What should I craft this week? Conq Ilvl neck (neck is my last honor piece), or a Vers/Mast dagger?

spring bough
potent pivot
#

it'll be week 11 like always

spring bough
#

Idk what week we are on. Is that next week then?

potent pivot
#

i think so

#

yea should be

#

800x10, cap is 8k rn

#

so next week should be uncap ye

#

or was week 1 cap higher than 800

#

fk

#

might be 2 weeks away still

#

idk why this guy says uncapped today

spring bough
#

Wasn’t the old uncapped after 7k conquest? And we are over that now

solid gulch
#

week 1 was like 1200 or 1600 no?

#

does the gear stay like this for the rest of the xpac after conq is uncapped or do they add more stuff like voidslivers later on?

potent pivot
potent pivot
#

we don't know if we will get voidslivers for the rest of the gear in the .7 patch

#

but every season we get brand new gear from scratch

#

the expansion has 3 seasons

outer sky
#

@ionic crown you around? your addon is driving me insane. Every time I log out and in the positioning of the DRs on my nameplates resets

solid gulch
#

anyone know how to position just the trinket on left side of enemy arena frames?

#

w minicc

#

i cant evven tell if its under the enemy cd's section or what bc when i test trinket doesnt show

potent pivot
#

arena core, sarena, etc

solid gulch
#

oh im a dumbass* mb

outer sky
#

Looks like BGE is trying to identify healers on the other team again

#

but its half assing it

#

both priests are healers

#

but its only IDing the disc as one

#

disc is also the only one whos spec is showing

potent pivot
#

looks like blizz is banning communities again

outer sky
#

need to focus less on this and more on fixing their broken af game

outer sky
potent pivot
#

but idk if its strictly focusing on rmt compared to the communities themselves

outer sky
potent pivot
#

ofc they have to say that publicly

#

they all do

outer sky
# potent pivot i mean

Somebody tried to RMT with me during a boost and he got insta banned from this community after

potent pivot
#

that doesn't change anything imo

#

even Huokan back in the day was like that

outer sky
#

I sold tons of keys under them back in BFA

potent pivot
#

ya

#

communities always publicly say 'gold only, no rmters allowed, etc'

#

but behind the scenes most of the ppl running them are rmting

outer sky
#

That should clear any potential ToS issues

potent pivot
#

entire guilds that are boosting focused

outer sky
potent pivot
#

most of them are pve focused, i'm not in one

outer sky
#

Rip

spring bough
#

🧊 man on Friday for all you drake fans 👀

outer sky
rough rock
#

Claude requires more info

spring bough
#

Reddit mannnnnnnnnn

#

17% nerf a “love tap” fucking cope Reddit. Cope any harder

outer sky
outer sky
#

like come on

snow anvil
#

High rating queue at 1 pm on a weekday?

#

Even then that is a crazy number

outer sky
#

Holy shit this mage

molten hedge
#

He’s cooking up something

outer sky
spring bough
spring bough
#

Negative win loss and gonna still cop a strategist 😂

halcyon timber
# spring bough

What kind of reddit propaganda is this ? Non log analyst nonsense as standard. Putting out a lot of fires atm but im working on stuff (just a lot of work)

spring bough
#

And it’s not even current cause sin rogue is over outlaw now 😂

halcyon timber
#

There is going to be a lotttt of sad sad complainers abnormally silent soon

#

Logs are not matching reality at all

  • misattribution
  • misinformation
  • baseless non factual “my class sucks”
  • heavy delta inconsistencies
  • “rogues are oppressive “ my ass methodology witch hunt nonsense etc
spring bough
halcyon timber
#

Im not advocating for buffs or nerfs , im just analyzing data. Classes that require finesse as us rogues do have higher repeated community based shaping influencing tuning

Data tells the story of what is going on . Im just showing the full crime scene . Requires a lot of data to show patterns and kits etc. so people giving logs and descriptions etc with also corroborative elements is allowing for a long standing longitudinal study to coherently be formed aka ghost story nonsense and failure to respond adequately via misattribution .

#

Data so far is suggesting rogue is held to higher levels of “nothing can go wrong or you collapse in metrics” where other classes are showing trendlines of more forgiving fisher price style nonsense to an extent

—> ie you (other classes) have lower responsibility and do not like being held accountable to it then complain anyway despite lower thresholds being observed for success

empty apex
#

Is there a working macro that will help me from canceling stealth like a noob

snow anvil
empty apex
#

yep!

snow anvil
#

You can make a macro that only activates

#

Like /cast !stealth

empty apex
#

I've tried !stealth and [nostealth] macros hmm

snow anvil
#

Really hmm thats strange

molten hedge
#

At least we got an MMR boost

#

Sources close to me are saying 100-150 injected

snow anvil
#

How close

snow anvil
#

Thats what i said

jolly sierra
#

DUDE I GOT PERMABANNED WTF

#

people said i was using hacks

snow anvil
#

So don't hack

jolly sierra
#

i am sure is just because mad people i killed in wpvp farming ores reported me thinking i was a bot

#

shut up

snow anvil
#

Lmao

molten hedge
jolly sierra
#

fucking blizzard gotta make em compensate the wasted days

molten hedge
jolly sierra
#

there is no real reason

spring bough
molten hedge
#

It’s joever

outer sky
#

the biggest hurdle is just going to be getting an actual human to review your case

spring bough
molten hedge
#

You sure it wasn’t for inappropriate language to teammates?
💀

potent pivot
jolly sierra
#

fkn bots

jolly sierra
#

it says it was because "hacks"

#

not offensive language

spring bough
outer sky
# jolly sierra fkn bots

Yeah its actually hilarious and ironic af that blizzard bans people for botting. Like y'all's whole company is botting

jolly sierra
#

100% was a sore loser which i killed when i was farming

#

i am very sure

jolly sierra
#

ahhh, how enraging

#

now gotta waste days wating for an appeal because dumb decisions from them

#

THEY REVERTED IT @potent pivot @outer sky @molten hedge

#

FUCK YOU BOTS

snow anvil
#

Fuck guess gotta get a few more bots up and running to ban this guy again

potent pivot
#

they don't read or reply to anyone ever

jolly sierra
potent pivot
#

idk about that

jolly sierra
outer sky
#

I just loaded into the most aids shuffle lobby I could think of

#

at 2350mmr

#

and

#

i went 3-3

#

ive never been happier about a 3-3

potent pivot
#

supposedly mmr got buffed

#

but there's been no post

#

so idk if i believe it

outer sky
#

100mmr injection

molten hedge
#

I have several friends that say it’s real

#

That queued today

outer sky
#

it has to be

#

A friend of mine tested it with a fresh toon. Was 1655 yesterday and today was 1755

molten hedge
#

Mhm yeah 100

potent pivot
#

i'm not seeing anyone going over 2450

molten hedge
#

One hunnid bigguns

#

Isn’t it possible to stop at a certain threshold

outer sky
#

No shot they didnt fuck with MMR

#

look at these increases

potent pivot
#

i'm looking at the same tweet

molten hedge
#

Something happened

potent pivot
#

they don't usually just +100 everyone though do they

outer sky
#

Nope

potent pivot
#

don't they usually increase the cap (the part that matters)

outer sky
#

whatever they did, it was something

potent pivot
#

like if we still don't see people pass 2450

#

this doesn't really do anything

outer sky
#

I just got 53 points for that 3-3

#

they def gassed mmr

dark kernel
#

Yessir

neat canopy
#

had a match about 2 hrs ago where i went 1/6 and got +30

#

ss

snow anvil
#

Free rating for everyone

neat canopy
#

dont worry im a noob so i lost it already "sadface"

snow anvil
#

😔