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I'll have to check when I get back. I didn't know
I literally stopped the week they came out
You should be able to
Buy them all
Requesting more combat logs ,DM if willing to contribute
Yeah you can buy them all at once
I was full 6 weeks behind.
Had to do fucking 18 dungeons
To even unlock t
But then bought them all
I’ve gotten the entire pit of saron loot table except the dagger lol
I really just need the gaze trinket, the second Nexus point ring, and then just getting most of my item levels to Mythic
ranged is comically easier yeah
Back to the Devourer DH…. That 5% nerf feels like nothing 😂
is assa using 4 poisons? or just amp crip and wound
If running DtB you can take numbing or atrophic, but you don’t have to run DtB
what other builds are there?
pins
Prefer the term opportunist warriors
might level an enhance shaman.... they had so many buttons pruned lol
You might see one more
Did they? Still have a lot utility wise. Earthgrab, cap, hex, lasso/static, decurse, ground, kick, tremor, purge. Lmfaooo
Ofc you don’t always play cap or pvp talent for static but that’s a lot of utility
Dps buttons. Talents replace some dps abilities now
Like the doom thing gets replaced by ascendance. The volcanic button replaces flame shock
Oh ok. Yeah that’s good it had way too many
I remember hearing a stat in DF that enh had 17 buttons to get their rotation ramped
Have space to keybind the utility stuff now 😂
Feral decurse is one of my faves bc it dispels chim sting silence from hunters
anyone geared an alt with 3x crafted gear? trying to figure out best way to get the 240 mythic crests, wondering what ilvl +9s feel okay
huh
its basically true as a dps
if you're below 280
the crafted thing barely matters now since we're practically at conq cap
this week
you know you don't need to do that right
like there's not really any advantage
to doing pve for pvp gear now
we have conq level gear in basically every slot now
Guys im so bad - or am i? can anyone look at this and tell me the main issue? 🙂 be brutal to all of us.. https://wowarenalogs.com/match?id=00d0a942a78205b1dae6773243dab077&roundId=undefined < we are all best mates but we never do very well haha
WoW Arena Logs is the best tool available to help you analyze your own arena matches and learn from the community.
you can't really tell much from these, compared to a vod
Ill record one if i can that ok?
ofc
yea record & send it here
At least you keep your mmr so its easy to climb back up again
yeah cba kinda unluckly tho
my driver crushed
i mean come on i cant get mad but whats the chances 😄
https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/mG10D2Sm4MTyUcA6X?invite=cr-MSw5aGMsNjI5MTA1MzI3 < here we go. It wasn't my finest game
ait im in a dueling event! eeh give me tips how to defeat a mage in duel pls it's an emergency xD
sub rogue
Technically you just lose those so don’t feel bad if you do
Try to bait them into fucking up
See if you can bait their blinks and trinket without sending full CDs
omgggggggg i got trolled xD
report the outcome
Sorry 
thats autolose if no los
god damnit lol
LOL
this shaman cant catch a break
3-3 
A notable performance though
I don't have any lobbies with meep, I just have lobbies with Cdew between his gambling
I was playing imp bte charger there and it did poop dmg
I actually might get to put some time in Outlaw in the next week. Playing catch up with my conquest
I’m going back to lethality / finding opp lol
Anyone have a timestamp of this I need to review
For…commentary

i hope he didnt remember me lmao
2522 in blitz we climbing boys
Genuinely hardstuck 1300. Im getting the worst teams and all team fight maps
lol
Like, mythic plus gear players
No pvp today boys
Replaced gasket and it's still leaking oil
Might be the cap since the gasket on that is hard and doesn't really screw on right
After that idk
literally where are the incels its saturday
Lol I have to do my valve cover gasket soon too
Is that a Honda?
i think im done with outlaw in shuffle lmao
i was up now just went down again lmao
Like a cockroach
Resto Druid started raging bc I step DR blinded him and he lost then I step blinded him next match and he lost again. Tough
tell him smallest dogs barks the loudest
Tell him that's what he gets for not playing a real class
Tips against arms as sub? I'm just getting rolled by every single one
what are you dying to @odd yew
Typically I just have no couter play to demolish, I can trinket a stun and insta disarm it but shockwave, fear, stormbolt into demolish just eat me alive
do you run preemp
Yes
Outlaw ruined the game for me. Nothing else scratches the itch
Blizz tuning needs to stay away from outlaw unless it’s a buff 😭
I've been doing casual pve and it's good enough tbh
Idk
Cba to take the game seriously atm
I lost 2 bgbs. My mmr is in shambles I am stuck in Mordor
for sub rogue pvp, are we crafting our necks and rings?
should craft armor first to get arcanoweave if you're using your first 9 heraldries, but after that yes crafted jewelry
thanks, i already have boots, belt, chest, and wrists crafted. wondering if im crafting rings and necks too or if i should buy the gladiator ones. Thanks for the help!
yep yep. you probably won't need much crafted after that, just try to stay around at least ~20% vers
awesome. thanks
ngl how are there so many people at 1800-1900 in shuff with over 700 games
as a dps
so funny seeing the most vocal complainers about rogue
always perma career sub 2k andys
If someone complains about rogue at the current state class is,it’s clearly a skill issue.
Also if you think ret palas are annoying as rogue you can’t imagine how annoying are as survival 😭😭
rounds or actual lobbies? 
I see people that are 1.6-2k with like 1k+ rounds all the time
Today I saw a 1600 devourer that had literally nothing on except pvp crafted haste/mast gear
The only vers they had came from their free conquest weapons 
I saw couple of 2.1-2.3 dhs w8th the same build
Apparently its hidden op if they don't train the dh
Not sure how, but it's a real thung amongst the batman spec community
@potent pivot @lime oar @gilded gulch i got my ass klicked 3 times by the same mage

its ok bud
not a good match up for sub atm
Can assa do the poison build from DF still or did our nodes change enough its not worth it?
First shuffle as sub. Well well well thanks blizzard
hi ive got 5 Galactic Voidsilvers, should I use these on my Conq weapons? or keep it for the Thalassaian Competitor's vers/mast daggers? (sub rogue)
oo i think it only works on conq weapons, thought i read differently somewhere...
dream lobby
its the mmr gain bro
still a dream lobby
i got a double mage and ddh lobby and haven’t played since
placement games every lobby has a leaver
the funny thing is that the warrior was going me whole game
priest just playing with both eyes closed
was there another mage ? or just you ?
funny if it were only you when they typed it then noticed u were on their team and just left 

sin poisons - amp, wound, crippling, numbing?
How goes outlaw today
Solo shuffle is shit. Blitz is fine lol
Down like 200 rating in shuffle…. Up 100 in blitz…. Gotta love it
rounds, still alot though
they work on crafted wep too
only mh really matters though
why did i que shuffle... instant pop and just reflex clicked enter... 🤦♂️
enhance shamans absolutely dumping dmg right now lol
those insta ques feel good but always a fucked lobby
most of the time
I just got two 6-0s on my warrior in a row
And im still undergeared by 6 ilvls
And Idk what im even doing
I literally forget to press Rally/Intervene most games
it does not only work on conq weapons but no there is no reason to save them for crafted weapons
If running DTB yea
what can i do with conquest points when im full ilvl?
Craft gear with better stats if you want or buy conq boxes when conq uncapps to send to alts
Anyone with current up to date -geared characters of any non rogue spec able to tell me the following (pvp only - can view by hitting dummy)
- spec/race
- hp (stamina rating and actual hit points)
- armor (amount and DR %)
- talent loadout and armory link)
If interested Please DM to help with data collection purposes
Have alternative sets
Everyone should be fully geared this coming weekly reset
Or will the ~1 missing gear piece not really matter
That’s solid to know, just put it in a note to remind people in case data didnt line up as people forget / change sets/ etc. can’t retrieve people’s scaled up to date values easily. Murlok aggregate “averages” account for pve equipped values iirc.
Team fight maps with fresh characters. Nothing I can do
Even placements been hard on my rogue and I'm 6-2 or something. Every win +90 and losses -250
i swear these crate groups get cringer with dumb rules by the day
what rules?
the only ones ive ever seen are WM on, be in silvermoon to start so you dont phase any of the zones, and have the addon
oh and dont be in a fucking queue
min pvp ilvl, and this one doesnt even do the addon they insist on just doing raid warnings
Insisting on only using raid warning is frying me tho
"Just listen to the 500 pings from me you dont need addon"
yeah ik
This mfer just sends 500 rw's every minute its so annoying
any outlaws gonna be crafting anything after cap?
yeah thast the addon
i've seen someone with like 10ilvl in a group 💀
i saw pinkteddyp join one i was in a week ago
and he left, complaining about the raid warnings
but like
the addon just does that shit by itself lol..
I dont mind the addon, its the people that spam it over and over for no reason
sometimes thats just it bugging out
especially when the RL changes zones
but if they're just spam clicking the addon thats weird yea
"voidstorm in 40"
"voidstorm in 40"
etc
theres no wpvp vendor is there like we had in tww?
like for that item that pulls people off mounts and what not
no idea tbh
ppl def have the dismount thingy still
idk if its just the one from tww still or what
Netomatic 5000 just still works i think
bis gear should be conquest cus of vers
craft weapons
and put void embellish
- hunt im p sure
ill do that at least
i run ring embellishments, you think the void one will be better after cap?
its the best for sure
void + hunt
in awc you play void + the neck so i assume that neck is now nerfed by a lot you run void + hunt
in pve they play hunt + 1 arcanoweave
im debating either hunt + arcano OR void + hunt
why would you ever do hunt on outlaw?
i just assumed it’s good in pve so surely it’s gotta be good 
it mainly gives mastery in pvp
then void + arcanoweave i guess
ok my bad
void is only used in pve because they craft weapon early
then they replace with arcano/iris
so idk tbh
saw they played void in awc
i will prolly just stick with arcano myself
but i already have the opinion that ppl sweat vers too hard
so i could be the odd one out idk
im gna remove the engi vers
1 item i think
i want to aim 25% haste
after playing w 25 in pve it felt rly smooth
yeah i need to drp the engi goggles eventually
even on 1 rolls
i have 20% crit and 17% haste outside of pvp
u play fatebound now ? i haven’t pvp in a week tbh
need to switch it up
imo yea
trickster is barely ahead in dps
like ~1% type shit
and that requires taking KS and using it
i wish it was good :(
fatebound just has way better energy, rotation, 4hook, etc
or at least a node to make it st or aoe
i agree i always wanted fatebound to be meta anyway
i know i keep saying this but idk why with FB i feel like i get WAY MORE refunds from bte
Can you expand upon that please
can u get 25% haste with 4set tho? and not losing much vers
If KS could be straight up ST it would slam on damage with Supercharger
instead of it being random aoe
def needs a dmg buff tho
Would you think people are just using it on cd currently?
Tracking, thank you for that
should be able to yeah
i'm even running a crit piece on mine iirc
with the 3% vers talent i'm at like 26%, zero engi items though

oh wait i forgot im running the crit gems for trickster gotta swap those back to haste
i'm keeping mine tbh
crit is still banger
Hit like 3.7k in m+ focusing on pve atm miss pvp so much lol xd
I haven't capped for 2 weeks . Affraid to que cus of being behind in gear xd
how the hell are you at 26 haste
i'm not
i'm at like 25% haste
26% vers with the vers talent
wtf
lemme check
its the ring then
i have like 4 vers>crit gems
and i think i bought crit cloak
but i don't remember
ah you have wayyyy less crit than me
im sitting at 20% outside of pvp haha
lemme recraft ring
which addon is that btw
and 3 vers>crit gems
Chonky Character Sheet
4set is a sub thing?
Xdd

sub/law
please give me import code this is hurting my eyes

ummm
yea rings are kinda big on secondary budget
i really want to just run 20% vers and more crit
i think vers is overly relied upon and really not as good as ppl think idk
plenty of room for crit in s2/s3 though ig
if outlaw is worth a damn
be the 1 quadrillionth warrior
with the Garrosh mog
and Gorehowl
🙂
i need something good i can buy with marks of honor or something
i have like zero plate mogs
i have a few elites but i don't like em
need to get plate t3
What type of mog you thinking of?
i like the black elite one from tww
which
the pirate looking one
the rogue undermine set?
yeah
how are you farming that raid
im forming a group rn
Df leggo takes 5-6 weeks
Then you gotta do the dumbass superbloom event
Over and over and over and over

Not as bad as some grinds ig
I play assa shuffles with DtB+sudden demise and feel perma energy starved outside of kingsbane windows. Would talenting dashing scoundrel make much of a difference in terms of energy regen?
I’m glad that is behind me even though I don’t even use the mog
I farmed ashkandur got all 3 first try I didnt know it was such a high drop chance
Lotta talk about outlaw in here tn what goin on
I did some pirate 2s earlier was fun
Yea im never doing superbloom ever again
dashing+sudden demise or dashing+dtb
idk why most ppl play that scuffed dtb+sudden demise build, other than its what icyveins had posted
but yes dashing helps
and so does playing around the energy refund of assa's apex talents
its still fun to play and we all have fully geared outlaw rogues 
Wasn’t sure if something happened. I haven’t tried rmp yet after nerfs. Sub just feels god awful into mages
Umm cause we get more burst with double envenoms?
wdym
Theres some weird talent that gives you envenom dam increase when you envenom while envenom is active
is it me, or is the bloody token gear transmorg like 5x better than the elite set for rogues?
who the heck designed the elite set to look like questing gear.
It is
The color palette of the elite set is between mustard and diarrhoea
OutlawRmp feels alright after nerfs imo, not great but not terrible either. Dk/hunter teams still shred the mage though
This is BiS af
ey man, all the 300000000000 warriors that run that mog
they've know what they like and what they like goes hard whether it's original or not
Its popular for a reason.
Im running the Troll heritage armor set on my warrior though. Easily my favorite racial set
Mag'har orc is a close 2nd but this is def my fav
How are you finding warrior
how does assa beat ww and enh right now? Ik I'm supposed to sun the monk during his burst but I'm not sure what to look out for, and it feels like I can never stun them for some reason
It pumps but its kinda one dimensional. Fun alt though (so long as the damage is a bit overturned). Giga MS crits are fun af
Yea i feel the same way
Idk how people can main warrior
Feels like rogue/hunter/mage are premier main classes for me
Or maybe uh dk when it's not turbo shit
WW monks have a PvP talent called Turbo Fists. It makes it so they have a 100% parry chance while chanelling Fists of Fury (also makes Fists of Fury slow you by 90% for its whole duration). So if you kidney into it directly they'll just parry it. That's probably why youre having a hard time stunning them. So what you need to do is either:
A. Don't kidney during Fists of Fury
B. Vanish/meld and Cheap Shot them if you need to stun them during it (cheap shot cannot be dodged, blocked, or parried)
Or C. Shadowstep>kidney during Fists of Fury (step puts you behind the target and you can't dodge, block, or parry anything from the back)
I dont see how assa loses against ww
Omfg thank you. I should have known all that by now
Especially if theres a pillar where you can bleed and kite
Ez it’s because I’m bad
Legit you can spam vivify non stop and you cant outheal garrote rupture
I’m also not like dueling them. It’s in SS
In SS it's way more than just ww or enhance specific problems
They can 100-0 an assa rogue in a leg sweep if it doesnt get pre-feinted. So yeah on paper its a favorable match up for the rogue but one mistake and you get caught in a sweep without a trinket or feint and it's just over
You should have two kidneys for every sweep so if you dont kill by 2nd kidney idk hes just kiting the fuck outa you or something
It was a WW/enh/havoc lobby with one healer an hpal so it was already rough as assa. I was feinting nonstop but struggling to peel the monk who was cranking
Think sweep comes up a bit before 2nd kidney. Plus in a 3v3 game you cant necessarily reliably send kidney on CD every single time and hes got a healer/teammate trying to keep him up.
Its hard to give advise based purely on spec comps cause theres 100000000 things that could have happened that we cant see
I usually try and save a step>kidney for Zenith.
The problem is sometimes your teammates troll and put em on DR
Ye i thought hes talking 1v1
Some generally good advice I can give is to try and save DRs for enemy CDs
Oh for sure all the amount of times I can’t even get a sap on the healer because my teammates just send it right out of the gates is insane
Like vs a boomie I try and not stun/silence them until they incarn
Because I want full DRs to peel that
Same with zenith, ascendance, trueshot, combust, etc
Zenith is the burst I think I’m missing
Yeah thats their big damage
We can’t disarm that either right?
You can but it doesnt stop much damage. Fists of Fury is the only thing they cant press while disarmed
Which matters
But its not that big
They can still murder you while disarmed
Disarm doesnt stop anything
Stops FoF
You rsk zenith rsk bok rwk
Yeah it doesnt actually stops the burst
Fof is only filler so it doesnt matter
Vs Enhance though, they cant Lava Lash while disarmed which shuts down a ton of their damage during ascendance/doomwinds
When you rwk a mage for 150k when hes 20 yards away
The dopamine is off the charts
Like BOOM bitch
Sweep is 50s cd
Slayer is fun as well does big dam
Boo
Slayer takes damage out of MS and puts it into overpower
I hit a 162k execute ln then a 130k on his friend
Yea opening stun then kidney after is what i meant
Next dr
I hit a 167k MS as colossus
Dont have to wait for an hp threshold
Dont have to spec into Massacre
Slayer is way better than colossus in some lobbies
Its just annoying not being able to move while using Demolish
I can see it if youre just training 1 person the whole time in like a triple caster lobby
Someone check pikas warriors win lose in shuff
21-9
Funny cause NA loves their warriors
2.1k stats on drustvar filtered for last 7 days and brown class is up there by a mile
Imagine playing sv, couldnt be me
Top 2 melee and top 2 ranged are so absurdly strong the 3rd place is close to half of first place in terms of representation
Dammit assa gaining popularity. I knew this would happen. Gunna be hard to sandbag for buffs now.....
There will be tuning either tonight or Friday
My arms warrior is almost fully geared which means it has a 100% chance of getting nerfed within a week. Just like how blizzard announced massive outlaw nerfs literally an hour after I capped conq and finished gearing mine.
Thank you for your service
Although id rather face melee cleaves than hogwarts any day
yep 
lord knows next thing they've got coming down the pipeline is
"retribution paladin: all damage increased by 15%"
"hammer of justice now has 2 charges"
It should. Hands is plural so
Lay on hands now auto casts if an ally falls below 5% HP
This brings the auto bubble vibes
Ew
maybe if we piss and moan enough balance will be restored
Warrior could use another buff true
freedom also applies to two nearby players (up from one). Duration increased to 12 seconds
reported for terrorism
Maybe hot take, easy specs should never be tuned above B tier
Whats an easy spec
bm hunter?
agree
Yeah it's all subjective
Aren't all specs easy now?
BM is the stat stick of WoW, fundamentally impossible to fail the rotation, single easiest point and click CC.
This includes ret pal
I don't think their discord admins would let that slide 
Shit will be nuked harder than the Predator self-destructed after Arnold won the fight
you guys really do
on eu no1 plays warrior
or ret warrior
Its the swifty fanbase that just grew older
https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/mG10D2Sm4MTyUcA6X?invite=cr-MSxzanQsNjI5MTA1MzI3
Anyone able to tell me what the issues are here? In our gameplay and my specific issues?
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cuz eu bad they dont have the skill or testosterone required to
i legit had to rewatch it cause you didnt press kidney a single time till like 1.5mins in
you got ps and just kept training him even though the other two dps werent on stun dr and you can just swap with a kidney with a gouge on the PSed priest
idk feels like your goes arent clean either
this was the last go before you lost and it was on the rog with trinket and his healer was free
so you woulda gotten fear bombed either by the demo or the priest himself
either way theres no cross
idk maybe @fathom crag can spare some thoughts
ill watch l8r
@outer sky
I feel like it's all my fault we lose. Are we playing it badly as a team? Am I just terrible?
USA USA USA
BACK TO BACK WORLD WAR CHAMPIONS
forgot about this guy
I didn't...
Does it still work? I have it downloaded but I haven't updated it since the add on thing
jus tried and no :/
i didnt think sound efx woulda got nuked too
used to love this weakaura too
For some reason I cant watch it. All that comes up is this screen
yea @twin wren did you take the vid down?
Ok its working now. I will watch it and DM you a time stamped review
Guys what to upgrade first with the slivers? First weapons then trinkets or?
Legend. Lemme know if we should be playing it different to how we are if that's ok. Happy to tell my mates what the issues are outside just me. I'm sure I'm the root cause though 🙁
Hey guys, how is outlaw after the nerfs? Is it OK for blitz?
Feedback sent
Zicore: "1:54 just terrible what are you even doing"
(random timestamp just making a joke)
LOL
It basically was that the entire way through 😄
As I expected, im not doing great
@outer sky - thank you
It totally wasnt lol
I know 😛 im kidding. It was fantastic response thank you
hi
I forgot, carry on

Join me fellow outlaw in staring at the sky
🪂
why does trickster prefer spending at 6+ compared to fate
FB gets coins from 5 CP finishers
is it cus deal fate threatens overcapping?
After the unfortunate Dc event and the -150 rating I got back to 2k
✌️
Although a smooth sail ret palas are not real people
Is leveling fast nowadays?
Ret mains are what all those zoomers who ate Tide Pods grew up to be
It’s just because coins proc at 5, so it’s more efficient to finish at 5 or more
The normal way to finish for rogue specs has generally always been “max -1”
Mainhand > insignia > offhand > medallion
It hasn’t really changed much, #1478034741302399250
Can follow an addon or spam a delve
Any spec in the game is ok for blitz
Why does sub goes with sword in offhand
It doesnt
Yeah its written by a Mistweaver Monk main whose got no idea whats going on
^
Not using a dagger offhand for sub is extremely troll
Oh ok
Big dps loss
😤
Also 2 tier or 4 tier set?
4
depends on the ilvl
if its 289 then it doesn't really matter
!tier
Assassination: 2 set - Helm/Shoulders
Outlaw: 4 set - Helm/Shoulders/Gloves/Legs
Subtlety: 4 set - Helm/Shoulders/Gloves/Legs
oh lol i thought assa would have 4 set
Assa 4 set is such a load of 🐎 💩
Its nerfed 50% in pvp so it makes garrote cost 5 less energy and mutilate/fan of knives deal 12.5% more damage
At the cost of a lot of mastery/vers
Even if it was completely unnerfed in pvp
It would still be questionable
CC is beyond broken in this game
id go so far as to say delete it all and start from scratch im so tired of sitting in these fears and clones nonstop
@broken jewel gotta use the in game resources for lfg/trade
yeah , np. found right now. after 30 mins xd. outland so few ppl left:(
Why couldn't Outlaw be super busted when the mog was good
And can never be super busted AND have the tier set look good
dawg i just wanna play shuffle and not get shit on right now
atleast blitz has more teammates to carry me
its like if i could just do a lil more dmg id tilt the games in my favor but noooopeeee fucking blizzard ruins its all
For sub is it better to craft LW pieces or eng pieces?
just regular crafted, prolly need to keep a couple conq pieces too though
just try to stay around ~20% vers
i tought crafted was always better than conq
not entirely no
you shouldn't need much conq pieces to have ~20% vers
like cloak and maybe 1 other item
considering we will craft mastery daggers once conq uncaps
good evening rogues whats the good news
crushing blitz thats the good news
14 more for strategist boys
win a game and ret tells me im throwing but i 3 capped FR for us??
rets dont know what theyre talking about ever
they literally just say stuff. its a medical mystery
blitz ques are taking less than 2 minutes for each pop tonight lol
im so tilted im jus gonna see what games are like at 3 digit rating
is there a point to getting a gladiator weapon if i have mythic dagger already
like, mostly just transmog right
if its 289 and has vers/mast its fine
but
can u even upgrade it to 298 yet
because in pvp we already have 2 298 weapons and trinkets
It’s either tomorrow or next week they finally unlock that 😂
can you not /afk out of pvp anymore? it hasnt worked at all
Test it out in a rated lmk how it works
wasn't that from an addon
i turned that off but maybe it turned itself back on
Huh
I thought /afk auto kicked you from game and various addons had a setting to where if you typed /afk itd convert it into a Surrender so you still got the scoreboard and the honor from completing it
i'm not even sure anymore tbh
!stats
These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.
- Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Haste>Crit
- Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw to lower the GCD during Adrenaline Rush. (25% for Trickster for energy) - Subtlety: Vers>Haste to 200 OR 600-700>Mastery>Crit
Sub now uses a haste threshold to extend Dance and shorten Secret Technique's CD.
Sub haste rating chart:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923898501529600/1483399511836725378/image.png?ex=69bc6d33&is=69bb1bb3&hm=21db8524f3add252a5f7556c91a39c6d076b5cbf29926a0ff3de6f1dad996660&
what do you guys think of Outlaw for mainly
Shuffle / World PVP / BGs
is that better compared to Sub rogue?
sub is miles better and easier
i wanted to try outlaw on my alt
so wanted to see how people feel about outlaw vs sub
in shuffle / world pvp / bgs
thought i could get away with the outlaw zug train
double grapple in BGs seem fun though
outlaw is goated for wpvp
Hello, a friend told me that he saw pikaboos rogue stream and he said theres a very important macro thats a must to have to play rogue you know which one he means ?
Trickster outlaw in blitz still a good time
guys in skill capped Outlaw now figures as S TIER, why?? what happened? xD
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There isn’t any
Hi, I'm sort of new to the game and pvp and was just in a rated bg, I was in a 1v1 with another rogue, and all of a sudden they sent me absolutely flying miles away, I forgot to check what spec they were playing, so was just wondering if that was apart of the outlaw spec ?
Darn some days are so frustrating.
If i CC healer no one dies, if idont CC heaelr no one dies while classes like hunters just spam dmg and maaaaaybe land a trap and win
Nope
Not sure how good assa is on this meta
Rogue does not have a knock back
i thought so, i looked online but couldnt find anything
They were probably just using the kul tiran racial
Assa is pretty much always good in shuffle at least, since most healers can't deal with the pressure.
i am having difficulties because in maaany lobbies i cant double bleed
for example frost mage is so elusive that i can't guarantee healer being CCed and me having any uptime
CCing healer means i am wasting gap closers
and I die inside when hunters cant CC even when i stun healers for them
is here any high rated rogue ready to help ?
what do you need help with?
It's always hard to tell what exactly you are doing wrong off just pure messages, but if you ever record a video of you playing assa I would gladly take a look at it.
My first inital thought would be, that you are trying to make things a bit more coordinated than they need to be in this PvE expansion.
you might be right in both ends, i should record some games.
My tactic more or less was to CC healer, have bleeds applied and use my vanishes to double silence and maybe CS healer so that my bleeds and my team mate forces the kill
and I usually spread my KB and deathmark
my main is kinda sitting at like 2150 but my alt is (not nelf) ping ponging from 1930 to 2070 for some days now
its annoying
I am thinking of how to improve and I was like "I need to coordinate better with my team mate", like "maybe i should focuson when my team mate pops so i can CC healer at that point instead of conveniently randomly blind"
not there yet though
@gusty hedge 
what my goat do?
I’m lost too
#FreeServo
He added a reaction so seems to be out of discord jail?
Any info on it??
imagine if blizzard gave a shit
Ally bro, male dwarf rogue is the funniest combo in classic
soon
boooooooooo
wtf is
This
Why do I see Venruki hairline
Why you watching that scrub
Blizz changing pvp is like the pinnacle of "if its too good to be true it probably is"
Booooo
When did you become a DH
when i realised i could be a leather dual wielding zoom spec that isnt ww
or rog
and still be ranged
what is this AI ragebait
weener*
AI slop so maybe it’s real
my weener is adequate (ask your mom)
blizzard showing effort to pvp challenge (impossible)
all the big classic streamers are at blizzard hq rn btw
or maybe theyre back already, but they went to discuss something big
as well as turtle wow being shut down, so the writting is on the wall
This was like last week lol
as long as rogue has on target CP, I dont care what they do with Classic+. It's an automatic deal breaker for me
They all got a preview of classic plus
As long as rogue combo points are on character and not per target SIGN ME UP
im inclined to believe with you
I can't wait for classic wow to die
games up 
Get rid of world buffs in classic and ill consider it
what is this?
Its not real
Even before I verified it wasn't real I knew it wasnt
Because theres actually some good ideas there
So obviously its fake
This is the main give away
Blizzard would NEVER
I bet Ven made this
I do free vod reviews. And im VERY thorough. Ask @molten hedge and @twin wren
if you ever see anything like this posted, its always just fake
also I do believe IF they were to do something like that, they shouldnt choose an absolute sweaty R1
Zicore is amazing! Genuinely he turned my gameplay around! @ocean thunder
somewhere in the middle
They made them better with this boon canister that saves them
Was actually life changing for classic lol
had a brief moment of hope
I cba having to run around and get them man, shit killed it for me. And how expensive consumes were. Not for me
classic pvp is boring af, change my mind
That is what burned me out. I ran the weekly buff runs and people man…. Show up 5 min before raid hoping to get all the buffs from DM…. LOL
@potent pivot What should I craft this week? Conq Ilvl neck (neck is my last honor piece), or a Vers/Mast dagger?
not much choice
do w/e
Conquest uncapped this week or no?
no lmao
it'll be week 11 like always
Idk what week we are on. Is that next week then?
i think so
yea should be
800x10, cap is 8k rn
so next week should be uncap ye
or was week 1 cap higher than 800
fk
might be 2 weeks away still
idk why this guy says uncapped today
Wasn’t the old uncapped after 7k conquest? And we are over that now
week 1 was like 1200 or 1600 no?
does the gear stay like this for the rest of the xpac after conq is uncapped or do they add more stuff like voidslivers later on?
1600
for the rest of the season yes
we don't know if we will get voidslivers for the rest of the gear in the .7 patch
but every season we get brand new gear from scratch
the expansion has 3 seasons
@ionic crown you around? your addon is driving me insane. Every time I log out and in the positioning of the DRs on my nameplates resets
anyone know how to position just the trinket on left side of enemy arena frames?
w minicc
i cant evven tell if its under the enemy cd's section or what bc when i test trinket doesnt show
go into w/e arena frame addon you're using
arena core, sarena, etc
oh im a dumbass* mb
Looks like BGE is trying to identify healers on the other team again
but its half assing it
both priests are healers
but its only IDing the disc as one
disc is also the only one whos spec is showing
looks like blizz is banning communities again
jfc
need to focus less on this and more on fixing their broken af game
Word is this had something to do with RMT
i mean all of the communities have rmt at their core in some form or another
but idk if its strictly focusing on rmt compared to the communities themselves
Theres one im in that im pretty sure doesnt
i mean
ofc they have to say that publicly
they all do
Somebody tried to RMT with me during a boost and he got insta banned from this community after
I remember those guys
I sold tons of keys under them back in BFA
ya
communities always publicly say 'gold only, no rmters allowed, etc'
but behind the scenes most of the ppl running them are rmting
Wondering if maybe somebody could make an in game community for boosting for gold
That should clear any potential ToS issues
they exist ye
entire guilds that are boosting focused
Can you hook me up with one
nope
most of them are pve focused, i'm not in one
Rip
🧊 man on Friday for all you drake fans 👀
??
What further clarification do you require?
Claude requires more info
Think it was even more than 20%
4:45pm here but yeh
Holy shit this mage
He’s cooking up something
yeah, meth
This just shows how fucked blitz mmr is
Negative win loss and gonna still cop a strategist 😂
What kind of reddit propaganda is this ? Non log analyst nonsense as standard. Putting out a lot of fires atm but im working on stuff (just a lot of work)
They posted the murlok 2s “meta” rankings like it means anything 😭
And it’s not even current cause sin rogue is over outlaw now 😂
There is going to be a lotttt of sad sad complainers abnormally silent soon
Logs are not matching reality at all
- misattribution
- misinformation
- baseless non factual “my class sucks”
- heavy delta inconsistencies
- “rogues are oppressive “ my ass methodology witch hunt nonsense etc
love to hear it cant wait for a buff
Im not advocating for buffs or nerfs , im just analyzing data. Classes that require finesse as us rogues do have higher repeated community based shaping influencing tuning
Data tells the story of what is going on . Im just showing the full crime scene . Requires a lot of data to show patterns and kits etc. so people giving logs and descriptions etc with also corroborative elements is allowing for a long standing longitudinal study to coherently be formed aka ghost story nonsense and failure to respond adequately via misattribution .
Data so far is suggesting rogue is held to higher levels of “nothing can go wrong or you collapse in metrics” where other classes are showing trendlines of more forgiving fisher price style nonsense to an extent
—> ie you (other classes) have lower responsibility and do not like being held accountable to it then complain anyway despite lower thresholds being observed for success
Is there a working macro that will help me from canceling stealth like a noob
Do you mean you are like double pressing stealth?
yep!
I've tried !stealth and [nostealth] macros hmm
Really hmm thats strange
How close
/cast !stealth
Thats what i said
So don't hack
i am sure is just because mad people i killed in wpvp farming ores reported me thinking i was a bot
shut up
Lmao
Time to uninstall finally?
no, i am appealing
fucking blizzard gotta make em compensate the wasted days
They not gonna revert it
they does, i've seen cases
there is no real reason
Panda classic? You’re cooked even if u didn’t do whatever the email says 😭
You're definitely fighting an uphill battle
the biggest hurdle is just going to be getting an actual human to review your case
Might have a chance on Twitter doing the at CS account “no real humans helping me” approach lol
You sure it wasn’t for inappropriate language to teammates?
💀
that is what i want tbh
They haven’t posted on those accounts in 3+ years 💀
fkn bots
nope
it says it was because "hacks"
not offensive language
There’s an active one. Saw one recently and the guy got unbanned lol
Yeah its actually hilarious and ironic af that blizzard bans people for botting. Like y'all's whole company is botting
ahhh, how enraging
now gotta waste days wating for an appeal because dumb decisions from them
THEY REVERTED IT @potent pivot @outer sky @molten hedge
FUCK YOU BOTS
Fuck guess gotta get a few more bots up and running to ban this guy again
me win
i am already ingame again
ye ppl hates me
I just loaded into the most aids shuffle lobby I could think of
at 2350mmr
and
i went 3-3
ive never been happier about a 3-3
it has to be
A friend of mine tested it with a fresh toon. Was 1655 yesterday and today was 1755
Mhm yeah 100
i'm not seeing anyone going over 2450
i'm looking at the same tweet
Something happened
they don't usually just +100 everyone though do they
Nope
don't they usually increase the cap (the part that matters)
whatever they did, it was something
Yessir
Free rating for everyone
dont worry im a noob so i lost it already "sadface"
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