pvp

[molten hedge]

He had the best time

[outer sky]

Its an "extra" 40%

So 60%

Talking about the round of buffs that made outlaw damage so high to begin with

When menacing got nerfed

[potent pivot]

the nerfs are basically reverting the last 2 rounds of buffs

like the buff we got before the cloud cover rework, and the cloud cover rework itself

if not a bit more

[halcyon timber]

Fellow rogues, I am formally requesting advanced combat logs. If interested please DM me.

[quick temple]

they really fixed a bugged inactive talent then nerfed the ability lol

[outer sky]

Its definitely a bit more i think. Plus they didnt also revert thr Menacing Rush nerf. So outlaw should definitely be worse than it was before it last got buffed

They 100000% need to revert the menacing rush nerf but thatll never happen. That pvp modifier will be there for as long as that talent is in the game

[potent pivot]

about the same

8%

so they +8%'d, nerfed MR, then did the trickster rework which was ~10%

now nerfed by ~17%

[outer sky]

Then they need to also revert the nerf

[potent pivot]

they don't need to really

they just don't need this nerf to be so heavy handed

[outer sky]

Also they clearly thought outlaw needed a buff when they made those changes so reverting all of the buffs makes no sense

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-they-do-yes-yeah-oscar-nunez-carlos-hernandez-gif-17555361

[outer sky]

Should be like a 4% nerf

Not 8%

Becasue it did need a buff back then

[potent pivot]

imo all they need to do

is not have the -5% nerf from today

like at a bare minimum

[potent pivot]

also if anyone can help eridian it would be appreciated

you don't have to log to WCL or anything

just send him raw combat log data

[outer sky]

Ill DM him now

[potent pivot]

the more the merrier

bigger sample sizing helps a lot

deva seems fine guys

outlaw rogue 30k dps seems fine right?

[gleaming sentinel]

ive seen enough, nerf restless blades

[potent pivot]

[quick temple]

they'll prob do the same to war

revert this buff then nerf them lol

do yall just ignore dev evokers

[untold remnant]

In all honesty, this Dev could just cleave on 2 warriors and likely a press trying to be in range to heal them.

3 target disintegrate spam = BRRRR

[quick temple]

6 hovers is something

[outer sky]

I hope not. Im getting my warrior speed leveled in 45 minutes

[potent pivot]

you're late to the party

[outer sky]

Wait did they nerf it already????

[molten hedge]

Yeah I saw that lol. That’s normal for dev they always do the fricken most. Kicking mass disin is huge tho but they had to tunnel lock

[potent pivot]

no i mean i got my warr leveled the other night

[outer sky]

Ah ok phew

[potent pivot]

oh ye i dmed you when i was getting lvled i forgot

[outer sky]

Ye

With my luck blizzard will hotfix the leveling spot before my boost is done

[potent pivot]

😭

speaking of

i gotta get more of mine done

[outer sky]

My hunter is level 84. Could probably get a good deal on the last 6 levels

Then id just need my monk done

[rugged jewel]

Is the leveling spot still the calamitous delve?

[outer sky]

Probably dont care enough to level my evoker

[potent pivot]

#1478034741302399250

the delve is okay but following the new leveling addon is faster

what we are talking about cannot be done solo

[rugged jewel]

Ohhh. Gotcha gotcha. I got that one rolling on one of my alts

[potent pivot]

yea idk what i want to do next

surv seems pretty balls so i doubt i'll do hunter next

maybe my dk

[outer sky]

What do you already have at 90?

And yeah surv is ass

[potent pivot]

rogues, dh, warr

[outer sky]

Im only going to level mine because im already half way there basically

[potent pivot]

i know for sure i want to do dk and try monk for once

want to get the warlock set but idk

[outer sky]

Windwalker bangs but currently it has no targeted mobility which i just find so aids to play

[quick temple]

enhance casually does 50k too

[potent pivot]

i feel like enhance is kinda gutted from what it once was

similar to sub rogue

[outer sky]

Got buffed today too I think

[potent pivot]

the gameplay just doesn't feel the same as it used to i think

[quick temple]

yea just had one hit 90k dps and 1 tap an rdruid

[cosmic thistle]

what addon too see pvp trinkets

like the frame

[gusty hedge]

leathality still slip slappin on crit rogue

[outer sky]

So lame that assa is dodging buffs

[potent pivot]

Arena core

And miniCC to see your teammates stuff and bigdebuffs on enemies

[halcyon timber]

Also , combat logs will be kept anonymous if you are concerned. I prefer solo shuffle logs for this formal audit as it will give 6 rounds of data collection. More intel to come out with a formal “how to” to ease any concerns or questions.

[spring bough]

What’s the objective of the audit

[rugged jewel]

We are shutting the discord down until nerfs are reverted

[halcyon timber]

To analyze rogue health and compare efficacy in our current environment by analyzing metrics in a live imperfect environment. Intra vs extra comparison data sets vs other classes

[quick temple]

still tearin into mages at least

[spring bough]

I’ll log some shuffle tonight

[quick temple]

69k hidden blade nice

[halcyon timber]

Thank you very much. It helps a lot as I take this work seriously.

[quick temple]

but no where near the zipcode of fury and enhance dps

[hot veldt]

what are assass rogues running for 3rd pvp talent? im smoke bomb, control is king everyt arena and then third i rotate between dismantle, system shock, dagger in the dark, preemptive, idk what to do for the 3rd

[halcyon timber]

Ill reach out for specifics so the filters help me break apart sets of data cleaner. One giant mass of WTF (warcraft text file) is a lot to sift through. I appreciate your time on this man.

[spring bough]

Do u want combatlogs like Warcraft logs or the arena logs

[potent pivot]

Preemptive and bomb always. Disarm if needed, if disarm isn’t needed then tricks pvp talent

[potent pivot]

Neither

[hot veldt]

ok thanks. im looking at the recommended talent builds here as well in pinned, when we dont run dragon tempered, what are our preferred poison? still wound crippling?

[potent pivot]

Ye

[spring bough]

Then what else is there lmao

[potent pivot]

The raw combat log

[hot veldt]

do you pref the dragon tempered build or the dashing scoundrel build for 2's?

[potent pivot]

From your wow files

[hot veldt]

with sudden demise in both

[potent pivot]

Not sudden demise in both

For 2s I’d do dashing+dtb

[spring bough]

Isn’t that what warcraftlogs uses?

[potent pivot]

ye but he wants the raw data

not a log on wcl

[hot veldt]

and then that's wound, amplifying, cripple, atrophic poison?

[spring bough]

Okay then I just send the txt file from the Warcraft log folder. All I needed to know lol

[potent pivot]

numbing is also fine into casters

[gilded gulch]

ok but there are few things funnier

[potent pivot]

but ye

[gilded gulch]

than spam shiv crippling warrior players

on cd

and watching them mald

84% cripple slow do a funny

[halcyon timber]

Raw combat logs from in game. Ill have the instructions to put out so this process is as easy on those who are helping me.

[hot veldt]

any idea how to beat warrior disc as disc/assass? warriors give such a hard time

[potent pivot]

Don’t let them get full uptime on you

Step your healer or kite them a bit

[gilded gulch]

deadzone them with shiv slow

🤣

[wanton breach]

inspecting a fellow rogue and... maybe I should try blitz

[gilded gulch]

lowkey annoying to do where you're out of melee range and they're still too close to charge

[gilded gulch]

How long were queues

[wanton breach]

thats not my char

[outer sky]

If you record a game i can review it for you. Warrior really shouldn't give you too much trouble as assa

[wanton breach]

holy

[spring bough]

Wild lol

[graceful ether]

i've recently been trying to go for 1950 and most of the time it's like a 10 minute wait. but sometimes faster. and rarely a lot longer

[gilded gulch]

the funny thing is assa shuffle since i swear

people do not expect kb damage

[outer sky]

Yeah

They just get globaled

Cuz they dont see it coming

[gilded gulch]

had so many games where someone just decides to random trinket

and die in kb bomb

[outer sky]

This is my go to win condition

[gilded gulch]

kind of the main one no?

ig if your other guy is something like aff you can rot the whole team

more easily

[outer sky]

It is

Thats how I win like 80% of my games

Thats why im mad about the stam buff today

[gilded gulch]

bit funny when i watch the same ret die to kb

3 rounds in a row

[outer sky]

Here's me sending it on a rogue on Markers' stream

https://www.twitch.tv/mmarkers/clip/EndearingSaltyPorcupineBigBrother-hGj5EJtEBjdTeshu

[gilded gulch]

yeah the no trinket

oh nonono

[spring bough]

yall playing outlaw with this little verse or nah? LOL

[outer sky]

I love smoke bomb so much. If they ever remove it I may actually reroll. I love how as long as you have it, no matter what happens in the game or no matter how far behind you get, you always have a win condition because of it

[outer sky]

One of my assa rogues is fully geared with 17% vers

[spring bough]

i swapped out a haste verse ring for a 285 pve ring with crit haste lol

[hot veldt]

I'll shadowplay my next loss against warrior and send you, thanks

[outer sky]

This assa rogue has crafted everything besides weps (for now) and 2 set. And im running mastery engi boots and wrists

[wanton breach]

no wonder you hate ret paladins with such passion

[outer sky]

Yep

[wanton breach]

which set pieces?

[spring bough]

do i go conq ring this week or keep PVE ring and go for 289 gloves? still rocking wpvp gloves i converted to tier lol

[outer sky]

Helm and shoulders

I thought about running 2 set shoulders and chest so I could run mastery engi helm

But I dont think the extra mastery makes up for the damage lost by trading the vers on the helm for crit on the chest

[wanton breach]

i was thinking about shoulders+legs

[outer sky]

What stats are on tier legs again?

[wanton breach]

haste vers

heavy on vers

[outer sky]

Well for this one rogue my entire gearing goal was to get as much mastery as possible

Im even playing badge trinket

Macroing it to kingsbane

Shits so troll

[molten hedge]

No wonder you run for hills between DRs

[outer sky]

Oh yeah lmao if I cant stun something im OUT lol

[rough rock]

lol i gotta do trinket

wanted to upgrade feet but forgot about trinket

[wanton breach]

don't think that's troll

[outer sky]

Its a little gimmicky

But its fun

Im playing sudden demise and zoldyck too

So I prep em with max duration bleeds

Then send kingsbane

And sudden demise just pops em

Because the bleeds are getting buffed by Zoldyck when they get below 35%

[spring bough]

outlaw feels fine yall

we gonna be a okay

[potent pivot]

gloves

[molten hedge]

Okay = C tier?

@spring bough

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

🤷‍♂️

[outer sky]

You can get run over by a truck and still be "ok"

[molten hedge]

I think Trimaz has a point about outlaw being able to kill mages but I think that’s a problem for top of ladder and AWC

Bc we’re between 1900-2k in 3s and see a hell of a lot other than rmp

[outer sky]

Blue class is so busted that the viability of every spec in game is determined by how good it is as killing them

[molten hedge]

Been seeing way more devourers lately

Inb4 all the mages are 2400

[outer sky]

Yeah i doubt that nerf did much to them

Ive heard spriests are pumping

Ugh I hope God Comp doesnt become meta...

[spring bough]

doing that and gonna recraft my pve ring w verse for a week lol

[molten hedge]

Warriors would love if SP was meta

[molten hedge]

It was 10% but whoever mentioned mage nerfs earlier forgot 6% shatter which is not huge but something

[outer sky]

Meant the dev dh nerfs

[molten hedge]

Ohh. Ya the collapsing star tree still cranks 50k dps

You don’t even have to take star from what my degen friend myth told me

[spring bough]

yeah no star anni build w surrender to the void

still does 100k plus devour/reaps lol

and if u do haste w the hasted talent for reap u can get its cd to like 6 seconds and it has 2 charges... plus devour does CDR on reap... kinda nasty feedback loop

[molten hedge]

Yeah as rog i rly don’t mind devourer at all tbh

It’s easy to fuck them

Or if your mage can root them on their dash thing and their fury goes down fast

@spring bough

[spring bough]

if u play surrender meta lasts for over a minute

[cosmic thistle]

anyone with good arena core profile?

[spring bough]

so CC dont matter much with it lol

[spring bough]

@potent pivot has one i think

[potent pivot]

it has venruki's profile in the addon already

you just have to go to the profile settings

[wanton breach]

is that your normal playstyle or is that part of the max mastery gimick?

[potent pivot]

its normal

[molten hedge]

Cc pauses it but roots and shit fuck em

[outer sky]

Thats normal

[molten hedge]

Is what he said

[outer sky]

I dont play 4 poisons

but the rogue I'm doing this on

is currently 70-31

win/loss

so it cant be that bad

[wanton breach]

I need to learn from you, gotta start gearing my rogue

[potent pivot]

[wanton breach]

[outer sky]

[wanton breach]

how are you surviving on that char

[outer sky]

if you cant stun anything (or silence vs casters) you just have to kite and get out

you cant stay in and brawl you'll just die in a storm bolt

[vocal surge]

Time to play Trickster when I get home

[spring bough]

im fatebounding a blitz right now

feels good

[outer sky]

so you bleed during your stuns then run away and let the bleeds do your damage for you until you have a kingsbane go

[vocal surge]

Boutta slam some clothies with double Coup de Grace

If I'm lucky, triple Coup de Grace

[lavish flint]

Any1 got a nice fatebound build?

[outer sky]

should be one pinned

[potent pivot]

CQQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgZ2mBjZYmtZmZMjxssYmZmtptBbzAAAAAAmllxMYmZmZMzMGAAAAGGYgNYGjGzGgtJswAgZmxwA

[spring bough]

19 more wins for strategist

[lavish flint]

This is what im using rn: CQQAphyM11FofNMFa1K3vFEDUCgZYwYGmZbmZmZGjZZzMzMbTbD2mBAAAAAMLLjZMzMjZGzMjBAAAwMMwgZbWMzMjmZ2Y2YZbahFGgZmZmBG
no double vanish, lethality 2/2 and cb. Interested in supercharger builds and double vanish as well. Got rly used to trickster so idk about optimal talents rn

[lavish flint]

tyvm man, gonna try it out

[fathom crag]

https://x.com/Robotzlol/status/2051744651921461260

Robotz (@Robotzlol)

It’s time to emergency nerf rogue, everyone was looking forward to the week they can finally compete, we need something meaningful, changes did nothing @WarcraftDevs @Warcraft

X · May 5, 2026, 7:23 PM

LOOL

[spring bough]

outlaw still S tier >>> cry babies LMAOO

[fathom crag]

im drinking their tears

https://klipy.com/gifs/cheers-drinks-5--k01KQX637P1TTCXQH64V0TJTQYP

[lavish flint]

ooohh toxic stiletto! i like the idea of this build

[lavish flint]

lmao ppl so salty, i'm just happy my fave spec is still gr8

[spring bough]

Do I fatebound or trickster this shuffle pop

Or split

MM and frost mage who woulda thunk it…….

[fathom crag]

try fatebound

[spring bough]

yeah 28k dps

DK isnt chasing mage with me or gripping him

love to see it

[potent pivot]

Fatebound feels so much better to play

[spring bough]

MM hunt is doing 60k plus DPS

[potent pivot]

No energy issues ever

[spring bough]

didnt they get nerfed

[outer sky]

Its way smoother

[potent pivot]

Can play the vers talent etc

[potent pivot]

They just got buffed

Because their nerfs were way too big

Like ours are way too big

We need buffs next week

[outer sky]

Wouldnt hold my breath if I were you

[gleaming sentinel]

This is how outlaw gonna be for the rest of the season no doubt

[outer sky]

Yep

It got nuked so fast 🤣

[gleaming sentinel]

They will give us a strong set bonus next season and nerf it later

[spring bough]

trickster def doing more dmg

noticeably more lol

turned an 0-6 healer lobby into a 1-5 for the guy justt now with it lol

[potent pivot]

if we stop coping that the nerfs are fine maybe we can get something back

[potent pivot]

🧢

[spring bough]

outlaw is fine

[potent pivot]

idk how you're fine coping like this

its time to stop eating shit

[spring bough]

first round 28k as fate, round 2 28k as fate, round 3 30k as fate, round 4 as trick 36k. round 5 was 34k as trick, and round 6 was 33k as trick

[potent pivot]

nothing wrong with that sample size

nothing at all

[spring bough]

trick has kill pressure so far fate didnt

trust me first lobby ill get more

[rugged jewel]

It’s like Rommath and Umbric between the two of you

[potent pivot]

i'm just tired of seeing people eat shit and call it good

sub nerfs "haha good"

outlaw nerfs "its fine..."

the copium is crazy

[gleaming sentinel]

breakinig rule 1 bro, you cant call rogue good in here

[spring bough]

idk i just solo a boomy at GM with trickster

felt good =/

[outer sky]

Ive been saying all morning theyre too much

All morning/afternoon

[potent pivot]

Bullshit

[gleaming sentinel]

my brother there was duoble outlaw in awc idk. rogue kit is so good for pvp

[potent pivot]

[broken jewel]

sub in eu this awc 💀

[potent pivot]

So because of awc we’re just going to say doing half the dps of other classes is “fine”

[long shore]

Was sub nerfed for trickster?

[spring bough]

im solo'ing shadow priest / boomy that keeps hitting gm... feels good man

[long shore]

The tooltip still shows the same effect

[potent pivot]

Yes

[long shore]

Still shows fazed stacking to 2 additional times

[potent pivot]

Tooltips are often wrong

The main part of the nerf was never even on a tooltip

Iirc the stacks weren’t nerfed for sub

[gleaming sentinel]

half?

[potent pivot]

The triple crit dmg from surprising strikes was nerfed which is like -6% dps

[potent pivot]

Yea half

[long shore]

Anyone knows what happened to Ally in BGs

Have like a 20% win rate Vs Horde

[spring bough]

for random BGs?

i think a lott of horde premade them somehow lol

[long shore]

Damn no wonder. Can't win at all as Ally

I'm on Oce server and world PvP on slayers rise is so dead

On US servers is there alot of action in the world PvP zone?

[spring bough]

there was at the start of the season. havent been over there in a few weeks tbh

[broken jewel]

as one should u filthy night elf. sit my full stuns 🙂

FOR DA HORDE

jk mad luv. gn

[fathom crag]

buff outlaw yes

[potent pivot]

You’re a part of NA servers aren’t you

[gleaming sentinel]

at least 2x

[rough rock]

In the US alliance doesnt do anything solo

they always need a raid group to do any world activity

same with bgs

losers

@potent pivot did you see that leveling thing with flying lol

[spring bough]

pistol be going pew pew pew

[vocal surge]

Shhhhh

[potent pivot]

The earthen thing? Yea

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-gun-funny-bad-cat-gif-16157012002585345556

[rough rock]

2 hours is crazy

[potent pivot]

Idk about 2 hours

[rough rock]

sucks that you have to be earthen

[potent pivot]

Maybe if you have 25% bonus

But yea having to be earthen is meh

[gleaming sentinel]

im such a boomer but these make me laugh so hard

[lavish flint]

interesting that ur doing more dmg as trickster, i've only been playing fatebound after the tuning but gonna try trickster also

[potent pivot]

Trickster is like 1-2% ahead of fatebound

But you have to play KS to see any of that slight difference

[spring bough]

did evo get buffed or something

disintegrate alone doing 30k dps for them

[stoic spruce]

I did some testing before work and trickster is still noticeably ahead of fatebound

My finds at least

[gusty hedge]

seen out in open world

[spring bough]

1 round of shuffle is crazy lol

[molten hedge]

https://www.twitch.tv/magnusz/clip/PerfectDifficultDragonfruitHeyGirl-LemjO2xQ3zIVnFhP

Nooooo

[gusty hedge]

oi oi

who is this nub shit talking my boy

[spring bough]

F that lobby

they all trash

they didnt wanna go ret

then we go ret last round and kill =/

[molten hedge]

You gotta stop Qing into these R1s man you’re making a name for yourself

[stoic spruce]

Ret good KT tbh

[spring bough]

bro wanted to chase dragon all day so did the ret

the second we dont chase drag and go ret... we kill ret... unreal

he says that and what did we do??? KILL RET

[gusty hedge]

i rewatched that clip like 12 times

the way he says 1600 shitter💀 💀

[potent pivot]

Lmfaoooo

[spring bough]

i may have talked mad shit all caps to him ngl

[stoic spruce]

Based

Yellow team rules

[spring bough]

lost the one round cause ret didnt pursue dps at 1%

[stoic spruce]

You ask for too much

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-other-guys-will-ferrell-gator-dont-play-shit-gif-3587568

[spring bough]

ret ran away and died

like nooooo bro run to him hit him once kill before u die TF

[stoic spruce]

How this mfer gonna have the most busted toolkit in wow history and die

[spring bough]

like ????

idt he cracked 20k dps the one round

[stoic spruce]

You ever play against a ret that has a history playing hpal?

Impossible

[spring bough]

this one def did

[stoic spruce]

Only 2 people use their CDs on their teammates in an effective way and that's legacy/old rets and hpal mains rerolling

[spring bough]

i need like an alert to know if ppl streaming in my solo shuffles

so i can like not type to them

[stoic spruce]

I'd shout y'all out

[spring bough]

do u have like a streamers tv up or something lol

[molten hedge]

Hahahaha just happen chance bro

[spring bough]

LOL

[molten hedge]

Myth sent me that 💀💀💀

[spring bough]

bro fuck

should i stop playing they already wanting to nerf us again

[stoic spruce]

Yes

[lavish flint]

im having fun rn as fatebound outlaw in shuffles. a mass invis nerf is still on my wishlist tho, most annoying ability in the game

[stoic spruce]

At least wait for me

[molten hedge]

I had an outlaw do good dam one game

But I was chasing frost mage the whole time

[spring bough]

hmmmm MM, boomy and arms lobby

with a resto druid and MW

[lavish flint]

the invis on frost mage is what drives me crazy xD

[vocal surge]

Rogue does damage? NERF IT!

[spring bough]

boomy dead

love a nice hunter that turtles at 2% and dies thru it

LMAO

[molten hedge]

Just use aoe and they’re usually standing right there

[stoic spruce]

A good boomy is a dead boomy

[gleaming sentinel]

lolll not my boy

[spring bough]

boomy threw last round

told resto in round 5 you win this i lose next

and he did just that

cant make it up

[lavish flint]

im outlaw, if i was sub i'd do the shuriken storm tho

[grave basin]

Wouldnt be suprised if this was the last tuning for a long while

[gleaming sentinel]

agree

[grave basin]

Looks like outlaw still kickin?

And shootin

[abstract stratus]

ring or cloak first

[stoic spruce]

Specifically PS but yeah

Obv it's not as good but

Ain't dead

[molten hedge]

Yea every rog spec can get mage out

I only remember one time I aoe’d and didn’t get one out that I was on top of

Bc they usually don’t wanna waste blink or shimmer without being stunned or having damage

[potent pivot]

Giga dead

[lavish flint]

how would you get a mage out of invis as an outlaw rogue without shuriken storm or FoK?

[potent pivot]

Blade flurry?

[gusty hedge]

Blade flurry and a Dream

[stoic spruce]

Skill issue

[lavish flint]

hahah yeah that's no where as reliable as FoK or shuriken but i hear u

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

Just flurry right where they went invis gets them every time

[potent pivot]

I had a dream

That at least one rogue spec would be truly strong for a whole season

[stoic spruce]

Unrelated but you're playing sub no?

[gleaming sentinel]

[stoic spruce]

Unrelated

I swear

[potent pivot]

Instead, I get these yellow names gaslighting me all day

[stoic spruce]

[potent pivot]

Laying down and accepting a 20% nerf's dick right to their face

[gusty hedge]

[potent pivot]

[stoic spruce]

For starters you're acting like it's an aura nerf

Now answer the question

[rough rock]

The 20 minutes I watched of that guys streamed I heard 1600 shitter at least 4x

[stoic spruce]

He was talking about me

For sure

[rough rock]

Nah me fr

[stoic spruce]

[rough rock]

He was talking about US

[potent pivot]

No?

[stoic spruce]

[potent pivot]

Sub has been nerfed into the ground bud

[rough rock]

[stoic spruce]

You playing ww huh

[potent pivot]

Assa is legit the best rogue spec now

[spring bough]

he was talkin bout me.... unfortunately.....

[potent pivot]

?????????????

[stoic spruce]

!!!!!!!!!!

[rough rock]

What did you go that shuffle

6-0?

[spring bough]

a nice 2-4

[stoic spruce]

I think outlaw should be moved to a different class

A new class

[gleaming sentinel]

vancleef has the strongest mental

just sends shuffles

[grave basin]

Queues 8hrs a day

[gusty hedge]

yea and give me back crackshot and old ks on a talent node

[potent pivot]

because he tries to bring mine down all day

[gleaming sentinel]

madman

[potent pivot]

[gleaming sentinel]

you good bro? lol

[grave basin]

I lose 2 shuffles in a row and have to log off

[gleaming sentinel]

fr

[stoic spruce]

I go 2-4 once and Im done for the week

[grave basin]

How does he do it

The madlad

[spring bough]

idk im 4-2, and 2-4 twice tonight so far

RIP

[potent pivot]

?

[grave basin]

Is that net positive or negative rating

[stoic spruce]

He's literally WoWs target audience. Have you seen his house?

It's goated

[grave basin]

Ive parked my pet there

Comfy

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/atlanta-lakeith-stanfield-creepy-smile-creepy-gif-2838775962290957578

[gleaming sentinel]

outlw dead confirmed

[grave basin]

How can vancleef even lose

[gleaming sentinel]

come see my house 👉 👈

[stoic spruce]

Okay pookie

[spring bough]

nah just a bunch of shitter dps

[stoic spruce]

I'm at work now tho

[spring bough]

that dont push at all

and pillar hump tonight

[gusty hedge]

dam no vancleef gifs

[grave basin]

Thats every ranged lob

They sit 40 yards away

[stoic spruce]

I'm low-key gonna push blitz until weapons and then focus on my career

[grave basin]

Expecting you to die solo behind the pill if you chase

But if you dont chase youre a shitter doing 20k dps

[stoic spruce]

Anyone want to run with me

[fathom crag]

for europe the changes should be live right after reset right

[stoic spruce]

Cardio

Yes

[potent pivot]

ye

that shit where warr changes weren't in shouldn't happen

[spring bough]

im down like 50 rating bro lmao

[fathom crag]

am i fried or fury warrior is outdmging outlaw by a mile

[vocal surge]

Rip

[potent pivot]

thats correct

arms as well

[stoic spruce]

Execute deleting people atm

[gleaming sentinel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/crying-happy-12--k01KQXEHMTC95DW4WF0YEB46DJP

[spring bough]

another 2-4 broooooo.....

[gleaming sentinel]

time for dh

[spring bough]

lock cant stay on ele with me gets smoked by arms war

then warrior cant chase lock with me

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

22k sinister KB on this shitter lock love to see itt

me and ele vs lock / arms for that last round

[spring bough]

well atleast im up in blitz today... LMAO

[vocal surge]

Lol

[stoic spruce]

Lol

[gleaming sentinel]

Yea I’m parking my mmr 🫠

[spring bough]

2218 to 2123 just like that GG

[grave basin]

5 more levels into 5 hours of crate farm

Go big balls full haste mastery 0% versa

[gusty hedge]

Lowkey thought about doing that too lmao

glass canon

[stoic spruce]

Is it time to play with our weeners?

[grave basin]

No one can touch you anyway

[wicked shell]

Is ass slept on? Seems like it’s got crazy burst

[stoic spruce]

Ye

Very under the radar too

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-gif-14567575036533624289

[jaunty osprey]

@potent pivot https://www.twitch.tv/ivanrah/clip/FaintSuaveTermiteLeeroyJenkins-1q8xiipTB4yTaTmh

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

5% nerf lol

[abstract stratus]

ivan in a game against magnus rn

hes gonna baby rage about rogue

[potent pivot]

so magnus is about to get his shit pushed in got it

[abstract stratus]

KEK

[potent pivot]

ret/warr won 💀

[jaunty osprey]

NOTHING ELSE

I CAN DO

LOL

ret war evoker everywhere

[abstract stratus]

he commented on the extra dam from the constant re's

[jaunty osprey]

i just spam stealth

when mage mass invis

[ionic crown]

is rmp still good?

[potent pivot]

depends

[long shore]

for world pvp, would you guys recommend the bloody token gear set pieces over the 4set?

[potent pivot]

no

bloody token gear is useless

[stoic spruce]

For wpvp?

[potent pivot]

ya

[stoic spruce]

Wpvp gear useless for wpvp

Wild

[potent pivot]

ikr

[long shore]

damn okay thats kinda sad

erm are devourer DH op?

i lost a 1 v1 to a devourer DH who has never pvped in his life

[potent pivot]

kinda

[long shore]

he just heals

[stoic spruce]

It's really strong

[long shore]

and backflips

and hits me for 1/3 my hp each time

[stoic spruce]

Leon Kennedy the spec

[long shore]

i was shocked that i lost to a DH

could be skill issue

but they seem immortal

[potent pivot]

they die in stuns

[stoic spruce]

Sigh...

I wish DK was as OP as that mage streamer with the hot takes claims

I forgot his name

[potent pivot]

rmmw vs ret/war/pres looks depressing @jaunty osprey

[jaunty osprey]

ya nothing u can do vs that

going healer, they have intervene, sac, sanc, disarm

and nulls

[grave basin]

This is a psyop every Dh uses since legion

Even when theyre busted

[stoic spruce]

As if everyone else doesn't die in stuns lol

[potent pivot]

rogue apparently doesn't die in stuns noob 💀

pre feint every stun dr

60% dr gg

[stoic spruce]

Yeah I'll just ask them when they're gonna throw that stormbolt

That'll work I'm sure

Hey let me know when you throw that kidney

[spring bough]

@stoic spruce just needs to be poly rank 1 then feint makes him invincible

[stoic spruce]

@tepid acorn Hey man when you cast asphyxiate just lmk so I can pre feint it

Ty

He's gonna be like why tf do I have a ping from Ravenholdt lol

[fathom crag]

so assa RM felt shit or? @jaunty osprey

[jaunty osprey]

nop

felt fine

only losing to ret war

[hybrid sapphire]

immediately dropped after this but ladder still has me there for a little bit longer

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-drink-and-wink-wink-and-drink-cheers-gif-13397942

[waxen moon]

Hi all, I just got my 2 "Galactic Void Matrix" to upgrade to ilvl 298, what gear I should use to upgrade? weapon? competitor's knife?

[tepid acorn]

??????

[potent pivot]

MH > insignia > OH > medallion

[stoic spruce]

Love you bby

[outer sky]

3am 10 man queues are poppin'!

[gusty hedge]

[wanton breach]

farmed

[outer sky]

Bro that warrior lmao

[long shore]

order for upgrading gear with this is wep - trinket - wep - trinket is it?

!order

!upgrade

[lethal roost]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1488547832062415010/drop_fixed.png

[long shore]

what on earth am i looking at haha

[outer sky]

Wym?

Use it on a conquest ilvl wep or trinket

And it'll go to ilvl 298

In pvp

[dark moon]

Is this matrix good for the mythic dagger vers mastery for assa?

[outer sky]

Wait wym?

Its not usable on pve gear

Its usable on the dagger from the conquest vendor or any dagger crafted with epic heraldries

[dark moon]

Oh it's not

Rip

[potent pivot]

for the void slivers yes

[marble oasis]

Reading

[quick temple]

did this to a mage not sure how

[uneven oriole]

did he have pvp gear on? 😄

anyone can tell some exp how between the eyes hits currently?

any info about mage's name? wanna check his gear

[potent pivot]

anywhere from 30k to 150k

[potent pivot]

imp bte being "fixed" =)

and zero-in etc

[quick temple]

jus the highest ive seen

[potent pivot]

yeah my highest are usually around 148k

that i've paid attention to at least

[uneven oriole]

outlaw seems still good then?

[potent pivot]

meh

its "viable"

idk about "good"

[uneven oriole]

in the warrior meta its still probably better than sub

[potent pivot]

anything is better than sub rn ye

assa just does the most rn

for rogue specs

[dark moon]

At this point they should schedule bi-weekly class buffs, so we just take turn playing them

[uneven oriole]

hell nah i dont want another assa fotm season to get glad with

[dark moon]

First half of may it's war, then frost dk. June 1-15 is aff lock, then 15-30 is shadow priest

Ret pala would be viable non-stop to support ret paladins rights

Damn clown devs

[potent pivot]

i'm just bein' honest

atm thats what it is

[pearl bane]

my boy @potent pivot

[potent pivot]

sup

[pearl bane]

no flame me in here plox

[potent pivot]

neva that

[sharp sierra]

Praying for Dazed to start streaming again 🙏

[pearl bane]

gotta set up some OBS again

[stoic spruce]

What about just a teeny tiny heat

Like

A space heater

Or hair dryer even

[potent pivot]

some light bants

[alpine tinsel]

Fam does shiv still boost nature damage for Assa?

[dark moon]

Nope

[alpine tinsel]

Thats fried lmao been waiting for it to come off CD

[fathom crag]

fuck @pearl bane

[pearl bane]

CHILL

[stoic spruce]

WARRRRRR

[pearl bane]

🙁

[dark moon]

It is fried, lol

[lavish flint]

Gonna start doing this, ty for the tip

[stoic spruce]

Gg2ez

[fathom crag]

outlaw feels alright but warrior is just 10000x better

no point q outlaw imo unless ur rly love the spec

[dark moon]

That is one bold dream.

[fathom crag]

assa better & warrior better

[alpine tinsel]

outlaw is r1 in ss rn

[stoic spruce]

I can't imagine why

[potent pivot]

ikr

but a man can dream

[stoic spruce]

Maybe it being the most OP spec for 2 weeks had something to do with that?

Merely a hypothesis though

[alpine tinsel]

I'm too set in my ways to switch off assa anyways lol

[stoic spruce]

Assa better rn anyways

[alpine tinsel]

If I play sub its simply because they both needed mastery sets

[pearl bane]

outlaw is cooked

[alpine tinsel]

What makes Assa work this season? Havent super been paying attention.

[pearl bane]

well see you guys when outlaw gets buffed

gg 🙁

[potent pivot]

bleeds n burst

[alpine tinsel]

Ik it was super OP but I miss the auto aoe bleeds and CT lol

Is burst just envenom spam?

[potent pivot]

KB/DM

[alpine tinsel]

lil KB in there?

[potent pivot]

envenom is more so just a filler finisher

that helps your energy regen through the apex talents, dashing, etc

[dark moon]

that would be either start of next season, season 3 or next expack...they dont do the same mistake twice, if its not ret or mm

[stoic spruce]

Usually the tier with RtB bonus is the best season

[potent pivot]

surely next season's 4p is sleights chance increased by 40%

[stoic spruce]

I wish I felt something when pressing rtb

[potent pivot]

unfortunately you gotta talent KS to feel anything

[stoic spruce]

And it's not even a good feeling

[potent pivot]

[pearl bane]

cant belive they cant give outaw a good tier set

[stoic spruce]

They do, once every expac

The rest mid at best

S2 tier will be bananas

Platypus

[molten hedge]

Mages take the most D from everyone

[gleaming sentinel]

🫡

[molten hedge]

Whaazz testing outlaw rn

“I’m playing the one bang to do the most dam”

[potent pivot]

think he's queuing into 1800mmr rn

[languid ravine]

I m tuning in for 20 seconds the first thing I hear is "my details is bugged I cant see my damage"

glad I uninstalled this shit forever

[gleaming sentinel]

uncap next week maybe

[molten hedge]

And rolls jackpots two games in a row from stealth like 🤣🤣

[gleaming sentinel]

Ivanrah is my new goat

man i really suck at dh

LOL

[potent pivot]

yea i don't think we will get anything meaningful until we see high rated 3s honestly

so far it seems 'viable' in shuffle

but i don't think anyone can say its strong anymore

[molten hedge]

Ivan’s swag you can tell by his pfp

[molten hedge]

Yeah. I wasn’t impressed by the ones I saw/faced ln. There was one that pumped

I played fury ln in a shuffle low cr and played deathwish it was a meme

[gleaming sentinel]

all 3 rogue spec enjoyer, but outlaw will always have my heart

[molten hedge]

Outlaws fun asf

[gleaming sentinel]

yea like i pve too so, its always gonna be my main but i aint doing this tuning bs. i'll just play the good one lol

[proven kayak]

What’s the best melee after nerfs

[molten hedge]

Warrior

https://tenor.com/view/wario-wario-world-gamecube-nintendo-angry-gif-13304262

[proven kayak]

🙁

Ooga booga class

[molten hedge]

Yeah for sure. You can outplay with intervene and banner as a mini game to keep you entertained

[proven kayak]

I’m chilling with my sub / surv chars now

[forest laurel]

yo new player, very confused

1. still not understanding crafting. e.g. i want to get someone to craft Thalassian Competitor's Leather Belt. i would ask in trade and do personal order i assume. I have the mats and Glad heraldries. I provide the haste/verse missives, socket with jc thingy. But can I embelish this belt too? And does it matter if the base reagents are gold/silver?

2. icy veins is 100% wrong right? because it's telling me to spend my 2nd weapon token on a sword (against the pin here) and says get 3 of the raid/tier sets instead of the 4 on skill-capped

(sub rogue btw, not outlaw)

[molten hedge]

Yeah the embellish is to the left of the missive. The reagents can be silver if you don’t care about PvE. In PvP they’ll upgrade to 289 auto. Don’t follow icy veins. You want 2 daggers for sure. And sub plays 4 set

[jaunty osprey]

WAT

[maiden gull]

hahah

ty blizzard

[forest laurel]

nice ty that's helpful

[maiden gull]

outlaw feels so bad

[molten hedge]

Whaazz is pumping but it’s 2s

He’s doing around 40k dps

[maiden gull]

solo shuffle

no one cares about 2s

[jaunty osprey]

fuck @pearl bane

[maiden gull]

80% of the pvp palyerbase palys solo shuffle

not fucking 2s or 3s under wac conditions

[molten hedge]

Yeah I mean there’s definitely credence to that. But he’s doing 10k more DPS than I’ve seen any outlaw

Even in 2s from games I watched yday and outlaws I played in shuffle

[potent pivot]

ye icyveins is a really bad source of information for pvp for a lot of classes these days

[gleaming sentinel]

[potent pivot]

30k

1 game ended higher than 30k or something

[gleaming sentinel]

best outlaw in the world doing well

[potent pivot]

if you get good rolls you can do ok

[gleaming sentinel]

"well"

[molten hedge]

He said he didn’t feel the changes lmfaooo

That’s a bit fried

[molten hedge]

Git gud

[jaunty osprey]

Feelycraft

[gleaming sentinel]

asking too much of me

[fathom crag]

ye outlaw feels good still if you have nice rolls

[mystic tundra]

anyone know why in EOTS i keep dropping out of stealth crossing the map

[fathom crag]

gotta play supercharger tho

[gleaming sentinel]

full raid clear i had 2 total jackpots

fun and engaging

[fathom crag]

but i can tell already if you don’t have good rolls it’s gna be miserable

[molten hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[potent pivot]

entering/leaving the bridge breaks stealth

[mystic tundra]

oh for real

why

[gleaming sentinel]

rolls dice they fall off the table

[potent pivot]

your guess is as good as mine

supposedly only happens to rogue stealth

weird bug prolly

[molten hedge]

Ya some guy named zicore claimed that

Wouldnt trust

[potent pivot]

ikr

[molten hedge]

Deathwish is such a meme bro I was doing 130k sustained on the dummy

I wish it wasn’t so gimmicky

50% dam taken is a joke

[gleaming sentinel]

its called deathwish....

[potent pivot]

i remember in TWW when you could take that shit and live into some stuff

fury was disgusting that season

[molten hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/gülmek-komik-gif-12950352696137374051

I have ptsd from that ssn

It was so disgusting

I could see playing like 1 or 2 stacks of deathwish but at that point probably not even worth

[potent pivot]

[molten hedge]

He’s not even playing slayer either lol

[maiden gull]

outlaw is unpalyable

fatebound does zero pressure at all

[potent pivot]

[maiden gull]

ty blizzard

[molten hedge]

Lmfaooo

There’s no way hahahah

Thane into this lobby probably isn’t bad tbf

I love when whaazz crashes out lmfao

Hahahah that coccoon

[potent pivot]

[molten hedge]

Apparently the shield break on the shattering throw node is rly good against stuff vs priest lock monk etc

I remember it was busted then they nerfed it heavily

But Mud’s cousins told me it was good

[potent pivot]

It’s ok yeah

It was broken for a time in TWW

[molten hedge]

I remember that. It was crazy

[potent pivot]

Hard counted anything that could get shattered

I don’t think I’ll ever forget this one game I played

VS lock/mage/priest

On fury

[molten hedge]

Played some turbo ln. I took the shatter talent and blew thru both blocks in like a minute and a half it was funny

[potent pivot]

I just ran the lock down whole game and he eventually died 100-0 in like 3 globals

[molten hedge]

Was that the ssn fury was disappearing ppl

[potent pivot]

I had zero idea what I was doing on fury at the time

[molten hedge]

I think s2 tww

U just pressed rampage and execute and things died

[potent pivot]

Yea lmao

[molten hedge]

All my caster friends quit lol

[potent pivot]

Either that or s1

Think it was the elite set with yellowish horns on helm/shoulders but idr for sure

[molten hedge]

This is my 5th ssn on wow and fury has been insane 3 of the 5

If these buffs stick that is lol

[potent pivot]

Fury will always be a good shuffle spec

Just because of how easy it is I think

[molten hedge]

Yeah I remember getting run the fuck over df s4 I had no clue wtf I was doing

By furies every lobby

Idet my fury is optimal bc I geared for arms. I’ll prob play arms. But I’m like half and half haste mast. Got to 20% haste per Laros for arms

Isn’t fury full haste basically

[potent pivot]

Naw

They both play haste mast I think

Or maybe all the furies are geared for arms

But usually they both play some haste some mast iirc

[molten hedge]

Ah ok it feels like it needs like a bit more haste. Prob a 2nd haste wep and I’d be good like around 25%

[potent pivot]

I think fury actually wants higher mast

Going off the pinned gear guide in the warr disc

[molten hedge]

Interesting. It didn’t feel as spammy at times like I remember. Does haste help with fury regen

[potent pivot]

I bought 1 haste 1 mast for weps

[molten hedge]

Same

I copied laros

[potent pivot]

Haste helps autos and global so maybe but like

[molten hedge]

@outer sky daily dose

[potent pivot]

You actually get to build your own rage on fury

[molten hedge]

I feel like raging blow sucks ass to press

[potent pivot]

It being a bit slower could either be from midnight changes

Or

Just from lack of stats in s1

[molten hedge]

Yeah that could be it. Or I’m just bad. I’m definitely hitting bloodthirst to get enraged like every 4th or 5th global

[potent pivot]

I’ve gotta try both out

I’ve only played a tiny bit of arms so far

[molten hedge]

Arms ofc considerably tankier but I do think fury is rly fun

[potent pivot]

But I farmed almost full conq now so

[molten hedge]

I like the apm

[potent pivot]

Arms globals just feel like they’re actually impactful

Overpower/MS/execute all smash

[molten hedge]

Yeah supposedly you just sit on a 10 stack at times for big overpowers and tankiness

I haven’t asked Laros or Magnus but the warr disc said to play slayer into casters

[vocal bloom]

all the guides say that versatility is the #1 stat, but why does it suggest 16mastery+7versatility over 16versatility+7msatery gems?

[stiff cedar]

I mean I was watching magnus yday and he was talking about not being able to play fury while on the treadmill cause its too global intensive and how it fks his hand up and other ppl were saying fury waa giving them carpal tunnel lmao

[potent pivot]

1. Most guides are ass
2. Vers is highest priority but only up to a point

You don’t need to go much more than ~20% vers on sub

[vocal bloom]

i checked murlok all the top players are probably hitting vers DR with gear alone i guess
ty 👍

[potent pivot]

Forget stats DRs exist

You will never actually run into a situation where you have to worry about them

Idk what spec you’re talking about specifically

[molten hedge]

During ur cds yeah but in between there was times I was waiting for globals

Magnus was flaming ppl who said they get carpel tunnel on fury. He said your binds are bad

Speaking of magnus, is it possible to start a channel for clips of R1s flaming @spring bough

[spring bough]

No thanks

[vocal bloom]

sub
i just checked your stickies and everyone is still well below the point where DR with start becoming an issue.
are we aiming for ~20% vers first and then try to get max mastery?

[molten hedge]

It made me think of all the ones that have prob flamed me to stream or in their head that I’ve met in shuffle lol

[jaunty osprey]

Just stop overthinking and just gear

you will not notice 19% vers 55% mast vs 20% vers 54% mast

[grave basin]

isnt this mathematically the same

[languid ravine]

Good luck everyone Im outta here forever

again

[grave basin]

see you in dh discord

[languid ravine]

xd

[stoic spruce]

I knew we were down a guy!

Rip tho

[languid ravine]

its a shame but this is not it

[gleaming sentinel]

jealous i wish i could quit

[languid ravine]

[grave basin]

so it has begun?

SP being good

[vocal bloom]

ye that's fair. i just figred since i'll have to spend my resources any i might as well just go with the optimal distribution 🤗

[molten hedge]

Can u optimally distribute dn?

[lime oar]

what’s dn

[vocal bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-stop-no-dont-do-it-please-dont-gif-15844872

[molten hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/nut-gif-20527978

[wanton breach]

Darkest Night, deathstalker buff

Surely nothing else

[molten hedge]

[molten hedge]

#pvp message

[runic laurel]

No shot guiseppi is over the age of 12

[lime oar]

i’m 33 and i try to get my wife with dn everyday

just put the mayo in the sandwich bro

[cosmic thistle]

what poisons for 2v2

[outer sky]

If only

[jaunty osprey]

No, vers affects all damage

[willow turtle]

My friend is brand new to the game and playing rogue. Anyone have some pointers on what videos to send him so he can start doing arenas? Ty

[lime oar]

reroll

[spring bough]

https://x.com/lofibanshee/status/2052069313922658473?s=46&t=YKaisWqFkCTf8y-DfuEaHw

jordan, loa of statistics🖤💚 (@lofibanshee)

In a strat that most assuredly will not make it to the weekend. You can level from 80-90 in roughly 1h15m or 2h50m from 10-90 (much faster if you're remotely good at skyriding).

What you need:
- An Earthen
- Dystinct Earthen Skyriding (addon)

Nice additions:
- Lucky Tortollan

X · May 6, 2026, 4:53 PM

@potent pivot @molten hedge

New level up method?? 👀

[gleaming sentinel]

Lil quick level + faction change

Race*!

[spring bough]

$25 to save a few hours? Priceless

[severe helm]

lol yeah notrickz shared the vid of this a week or so ago

glad to see it was optimized lol

[molten hedge]

Interesting. I wonder if it got faster bc I had heard about this at beginning of the season

[severe helm]

I think theyve just figured out more optimal routes

I dont think the actual xp % has gone up

[molten hedge]

Still pretty sick I might do that

[molten hedge]

Just remember if you buy an 80 boost you have to wait like 2 or 3 days to race change iirc

[potent pivot]

This has been a thing for quite a while now and requires you to be earthen

[spring bough]

Nothing a nice lil cheap race change can’t fix

Looks like 12.0.7 is beefing up xp rewards on some quests by about 6x

16k xp on one quest in .05 and same quest is 101k in .07

[potent pivot]

The part that sucks the most is that you can’t actually go full speed

You have to be in every zone for at least 5 seconds to proc the zone change, which procs the exp

[obsidian pulsar]

are there any screenshots around what gear awc sub rogues had?

[potent pivot]

I don’t think anyone cared enough to ss them

Gear they run in awc can be different from the optimal gear for the live ladder

They tend to run more vers and certain pve pieces etc

[potent pivot]

Ye that’s got nothing to do with the DR though. Sub is just inherently tankier than other specs.

[potent pivot]

Depends on build. Always wound+crippling. If you run DtB you add amp and can add either numbing or atrophic if you want.

[proper vortex]

There is a shadow priest in open world pvp running around one shotting everyone lol. Did i miss something?

I got killed so fast i could not even think of cloak

[lone jasper]

Even 2v2 double Spriests are playing

Spriests are asking to nerf them soon

[molten hedge]

Yeah laros is saying that outlaws on TR wreck him harder than live. I’m thinking like bro we’re basically full geared are u memeing?

[proper vortex]

Why so many go for insignia instead of badge? Dont we want on demand mainstat? I dont do arenas, only blitz as sub/assa

[potent pivot]

for blitz badge is good

[dark kernel]

Not exactly. On TR they get access to ALL GEAR at 298. So a lot of times players will use weird little PvE raid pieces that have weird bonuses and shit on them. Last season people used a weapon set with a nice little damage boost.

Maybe not last season but xpac, it was the fist weapon set.

[potent pivot]

insginia is just better for arena

because it has much higher uptime

[potent pivot]

you mean 289 right

[dark kernel]

You know what I mean, whatever the max ilvl currently is

Isn't it nown298

[potent pivot]

weps/trinkets are 298

everything else still 289 for w/e reason

[dark kernel]

Ahh kk

I haven't even played since the .5 patch unfort

Just no time

I played Diablo 15 minutes last night that was nice

[potent pivot]

yeah idk thats weird

only difference is pretty much everyone in awc is like the best of the best right so you'd expect them to do better than most ladder players anyway

[rough rock]

its not 5 sec

you have to be tapping w or left click

which is annoying itself

the 5 second comment is right sorry idk why i worded it like that

[potent pivot]

Yee

I think archvaldor or someone made a vid on it weeks ago

[rough rock]

feel like that would drive me insane personally lmao

[potent pivot]

If you didn’t have to be the worst race in the game it wouldn’t be a bad way to go

But yea having to fly slow on purpose just sounds annoying

[molten hedge]

Yeah but 80-90 in a little over an hour sounds kindaaa nice

500k gold is like $40 rn and faction or race change is $25-$30

Plus just the time saved

[lone jasper]

Trickz, even for assa?

[potent pivot]

Ye