pvp

[gusty hedge]

[gleaming sentinel]

told my wife im gonna be a youtuber

my reactions are killin it this am in the chat

[stoic spruce]

we're all cooking today tbh

[gleaming sentinel]

troo

[gusty hedge]

one more of my Laws turn dev

[stoic spruce]

maybe Devourer is what brings us closer together...

[gleaming sentinel]

there's a little weener devourer in all of us

[stoic spruce]

imma start calling it that

weener for short

"yo van you been playing with weener lately?"

[spring bough]

How tf I get called out

[stoic spruce]

youre our resident weener

[gleaming sentinel]

i cant wait to play gobbler today

[stoic spruce]

whats that

[gusty hedge]

i can't my stomach hurts

[stoic spruce]

ive been laughing this whole time lmaoo

what level is yalls weener?

[gleaming sentinel]

89

[stoic spruce]

I hope to god this catches on

[gleaming sentinel]

idk if yall watch football

[stoic spruce]

"damn, what the fuck? I got one shot by a weener!"

[gleaming sentinel]

but there was a QB named Andy Dalton and they called him the Red rocket

and i always called him dog weiner

[stoic spruce]

thats awesome

[gleaming sentinel]

devourer is my new red rocket fr fr

[spring bough]

even after it gets nerfed 5%

[stoic spruce]

okay im calm now

sides feel better

[spring bough]

Guys im kinda getting nuked this morning on my Devourer

What we rerolling now

[stoic spruce]

Trickz is gonna come back and put an end to this but little does he know the damage is done

[spring bough]

Ret?

[stoic spruce]

you cant stop the weener train

[spring bough]

Trickz leveled a Weener too

[stoic spruce]

I am not surprised in the slightest

the little FOTM rapscallion

[gleaming sentinel]

I wonder what the lurkers here are thinking

"outlaw players are unique"

[stoic spruce]

"these guys are cool"

[gleaming sentinel]

this made me laugh out loud holy fuck

[crimson widget]

where do i get the free ones from?

[stoic spruce]

earn 2500 conquest

dont have to save, just earn

you'll earn an achiev and get 2 tokens

[gusty hedge]

what popo said!

Join Lfg war crate farm and it's smooth sailing after 2.5k

[spring bough]

TY trickz

[stoic spruce]

np

[spring bough]

Honorary badge

[stoic spruce]

being smart and acting stupid is huge

[spring bough]

Can we get popo a green name for a day

[stoic spruce]

dude

yes

im knowledgeable and good

and people know me

[gusty hedge]

Dnt crash out like another green name

[gleaming sentinel]

you should name your dh poopoo

poopooweiner

[spring bough]

None of that passive aggressive shit pls popo

[stoic spruce]

cant, tried naming my lock that

[stoic spruce]

thats so unlike me

instead I had to name my lock Itchybuthol

[spring bough]

👑

[stoic spruce]

I'll level a weener for the bit

[grave basin]

do i really do it

[stoic spruce]

one of us, one of us

[grave basin]

am i a fucking scumbag

yes i am

[stoic spruce]

yes

[gusty hedge]

[stoic spruce]

but thats irrelevent

im suppose to be asleep rn

[spring bough]

Just in time for a 5% unplayable nerf

[gusty hedge]

#pvp message

[grave basin]

the nerfs dont do shit youre still overkilling by 1 billion

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/finished-elijah-wood-lord-of-the-rings-lava-fire-gif-5894611

[spring bough]

Shhhhh

[grave basin]

now itll be 19999999999999999999

[stoic spruce]

JUST max level

nothing else

[stoic spruce]

would

next

[alpine scarab]

Hi. Is the BiS gear for PvP 6/6 upgraded grim jest and conquest gear?

[grave basin]

upgrade levels dont affect pvp ilvl

they scale up to max in instanced pvp

[alpine scarab]

Ohh right. So is the best PvP gear the grim jest and conquest then?

[gleaming sentinel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/daniel-cormier-cormier-mobile--k01KQQ50AZYPEM5HAK43DAETW97

me on rogue pvp disc

[gusty hedge]

if ur coming from pve in mythic tier track grim yeah.

tier set rest conquest/crafted

[stoic spruce]

fr

[stoic spruce]

ive got absolutely nothing on in the background, just staring at disc

[gleaming sentinel]

and they say the social aspect of wow is dead

[stoic spruce]

fr

it just moved

the goobers

[alpine scarab]

Haven’t done any pve, I’ve only done PvP and have 4/5 grim jest and the rest mostly conquest

[gleaming sentinel]

now do i say anything in keys? or raid? no

[alpine scarab]

But was just wondering once I have the rest of conquest is that the best that’s available for PvP

[gleaming sentinel]

stop talking to me dont be weird

[stoic spruce]

Ngl I'm a massive yapper

[gusty hedge]

yeah conquest is the highest atm. you can upgrade weaps and trinket atm with void slivers/silvers to 298 (conquest)

[grave basin]

how do you tell anything apart? everything is blue

[stoic spruce]

I make friends all the time

[gleaming sentinel]

im fairly certain im the annoying one in guild for sure

[stoic spruce]

That's why all my binds are the same across classes

[gleaming sentinel]

greenchat = pk always got somehting to say

[gusty hedge]

u want a min of 2 crafted for embellishments tho

[alpine scarab]

Cool thanks man. I’ve seen one sliver and have upgraded one weap but haven’t gotten anymore since

[stoic spruce]

If you look at conversations I have, I'm always the last one to message because I always have something to add

And they get tired of me ig lolol

[gleaming sentinel]

tbh prob same

[alpine scarab]

I’ve got thelassian belt and boots

[gleaming sentinel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mickey-mouse-4jS--k01KQQ58C17DSSMXB2Z2V8X98J6

[gusty hedge]

rng on drops still, for me they dropped more from blitz than shuffle. some get lucky and drop every game

[alpine scarab]

With arcanowave

[gusty hedge]

nice thats bis atm

[alpine scarab]

Yeah I’ve never had that much luck with rng haha

But thanks again mate

[grave basin]

i like how you dont even play your freaking apex

what a chad spec

no fucks given

[gusty hedge]

cuz your chill and never get mad

https://tenor.com/view/andrew-cooper-andrew-dance-cooper-dance-feeling-dance-dance-gif-4719076827571292026

[stoic spruce]

Real

[alpine scarab]

One more thing, what is the silver you mentioned?

[stoic spruce]

Sub rogues piss me off though

[alpine scarab]

I’m familiar with the void sliver

[stoic spruce]

No offense Capi

[alpine scarab]

None taken

….bitch

[stoic spruce]

I was literally looking for the heart emoji to put as a reaction lmaoo

[gusty hedge]

couldnt remember if it was void sliver or void silver

[alpine scarab]

😂

[gleaming sentinel]

i wanna get into a popo solo shuffle

[alpine scarab]

Ah right haha

[gleaming sentinel]

or wait pk dh, popo outlaw 3v3 inc

yapgods

[stoic spruce]

I hope you like "I'm not attacking until there's communication"

[gleaming sentinel]

HAHAHAHHAHAAH

[stoic spruce]

I made so many people mad doing that in DF on my dk lol

[gleaming sentinel]

omg thats so good

dudes a housewife in solo shuffle

[stoic spruce]

I'd hug pillar and not do anything productive until we agreed on a target

So here's the thing though

They never stick to their own plan

So when they tell me, I do the opposite and it works out

[grave basin]

@gleaming sentinel are you leveling with campaign?

[gleaming sentinel]

yea.... i did the delve thing and turned em all in but didnt do it right so i am lvl 89

[grave basin]

wtf is this?

i have 33% armor

im a freaking plate class

[stoic spruce]

More passive tankiness

Who saw that coming

[gusty hedge]

did u do all 9 deleves?

[spring bough]

delve leveling meta........

[gusty hedge]

i personally didnt follow the guide on 6 delve if using the FTA addon

[gleaming sentinel]

all 10

[gusty hedge]

10?!? naulleus? too

tf

[gleaming sentinel]

is there only 9?

LOL

w/e i did em all

[gusty hedge]

i think so dam now im not sure

[gleaming sentinel]

leveled to 87 then turned em in

[gusty hedge]

turn em in at 88

[gleaming sentinel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/yeah-well-1--k01KQQ5TC9XN6MX3YPJGKX4ZVPH

[grave basin]

i should do them now yea

at lvl 80

[gusty hedge]

[grave basin]

how broken is max level valeera pre 90

[gusty hedge]

yeah you should be able to clear them with ease before lvl85 80 should be a cake walk

[gleaming sentinel]

my valeera died all the time rofl

[gusty hedge]

i havent tried with any other class besides rogue but valeera think died twice on me when i pulled too many at once.like half the delve

[gleaming sentinel]

its weird, i just perma tricks healer valeera on rogue and she like

does more dmg tha me sometimes and is immortal

im 281 ilvl btw

[gusty hedge]

damn
i noticed she scales with you as well prolly in all stats too

[grave basin]

wtf is this spec

holy shit

am i playing an fps

[gusty hedge]

alr u guys are gonna make me get up log on to lvl if u keep this up

[grave basin]

please tell me theres a pvp modifier on thisd

2 charges 24% self heal

[spring bough]

Don’t think so

[gusty hedge]

damn thats like 2 imp crimson vials

[spring bough]

It’s pretty baller ngl

[grave basin]

i feel like this isnt a very easy spec tbh

theres so many min maxy shit i can see

[spring bough]

Wym bro press consume, reap rinse repeat till void ray smash that rinse repeat hit meta, star rinse repeat

[gleaming sentinel]

we'll see, im gona do the star pve rotation build

[grave basin]

does meta reset

anything

it resets hunt right

[grave basin]

im playing no star

[spring bough]

I think so. I don’t play that fel scarred bs. Annihilator all the way >>>>

[gleaming sentinel]

collapsing star reminds me of one of my favorite playstyles and thats legion full moon moonkin

my beloved

[grave basin]

FUCK i forgot to take the quest

bro fel scarred is fun af

[stoic spruce]

Normally I'd be having fomo but we named it weener and that seems to help

[gleaming sentinel]

You love Weener

[grave basin]

@spring bough drop the voidray no interrupt macro

[spring bough]

/stopmacro [channeling:Void Ray]
Add this to everything. Consume, reap, fel blade, defensives, stun, interrupt

And while in void ray just spam reap and the second void ray is done casting you’ll send eradicate

[grave basin]

ok so meta resets most stuff

so you wanna use hunt and felblade before meta

[spring bough]

Bro stop w fel scarred just play anni. Does way more dmg in dungeons lol

[grave basin]

most people are melee build though

[spring bough]

You try and put reap on CD before using void ray since a full void ray will reset it and turn it into eradicate

For shuffle? Yeah till Tuesday when void surge gets nuked lol

[gusty hedge]

send teh build

[spring bough]

Just look at Lem on murlok

He knows what’s good

[gusty hedge]

i dont

oh lem

idk ima just coppy disvourgon

[spring bough]

If u play no star u can drop the last apex talent for something in the Devourer tree

Since the last apex talent makes collapsing always crit no need to take it without star lol

And w no star build it’s literally reap into consume spam all day since reap makes consume insta cast with beckon PvP talent

And w surrender to the void meta does 10% Inc dmg and lasts 100x longer

[gusty hedge]

this is what im lookin for simple ez spam gameplay

[spring bough]

So u just pew pew culls into devour and 100k plus hits / crits

It’s literally a 1,2 spam

No interrupts on consume/devour since u just insta cast them

[gusty hedge]

@potent pivot

[gusty hedge]

gotta grind out 20 lvls lvl 70

hopefully i figure out what everything does before i hit 90 beyond the 1/2 spam

[gleaming sentinel]

@gusty hedge @stoic spruce @spring bough @grave basin

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/illidan-bah-gif-10891728

[spring bough]

I didn’t start this trickz just putting it out there 😭

[gusty hedge]

u can use valeera in old delve content ?!?

dam prolly not my shit froze when i went to view abilities in dornagal

[silent linden]

Hi guys! Trying to learn rogue for solo shuffle. What’s the most helpful spec for shuffle? Sub or Assa? I am trying sub and I love the control and burst, but I cannot really delete someone in time until they pop some defensive.
Currently I am trying to blind the healer, cheap shot the target, smoke the target and burst. By the time I kidney the target they already leave the smoke or pop defensive. What am I missing?

[stoic spruce]

It's what you get for playing with your weener

[gusty hedge]

sounds good but try to kidney the healer cheap KT smokebomb / blind healer before kidney over, harder to do in shuffle if u have ur teamates throwing stuns or breaking/ Dr CC
if u have Shadowblades thats the perfect time to end someone (more so if specced cloud cover)
as for sin there few good sin rogues in here that can help with Sin burst/ kill rotation

[gusty hedge]

Its a Sign!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/226359213427916800/1491817613544652883/aornae.gif

[grave basin]

perfection

i refuse to play assa for the 3rd expansion in a row and sub is boring af

if outlaw is bad it's just reroll angle

[spring bough]

not after tuesday

smh

blizz and their dog shit team

hey lets rework outlaw with 1 new hero talent

a week later.... NUKE NERF IT

now no1 plays it fuck that

[gleaming sentinel]

sub or assa time ez

[grave basin]

what i wanna know is how does mm and outlaw get nerfed in 1 week and rets still enjoying having 6 saves

[grave basin]

you know he;s just vibing in the back

pressing 121212121212

being immortal with plate armor

[spring bough]

bro F that

just run into the madness

and stand in the shit

then bait them blink out LOS and GG lololol

[grave basin]

never forget

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHTsaJRai24

im a changed man

only gonna play ranged now

[spring bough]

ranged melee is so ez to avoid shit

its actually unfair

[grave basin]

not just that

underrated is your camera doesnt get fucked

especially in small rooms

[spring bough]

like i just chill 25 yards away and dont worry about mechanics

0-6 lock just now..... what is this world coming too

buddy died 20 seconds into my first round with him on my team... RIP

[gusty hedge]

lost my ui set up and all the macros i made lol when i logged back in it was reset

[severe helm]

West Coast dummy

You telling me there aren't 4 DPS and 2 healers awake in the entire NA at my rating?

Yalls standards have dropped too much from playing this game

[spring bough]

[severe helm]

SIX PEOPLE

[grave basin]

i think it's mostly EU playing at high rating at this hour

[spring bough]

Or maybe @severe helm is right and games dead

[severe helm]

It was MIDNIGHT brother

I've played at this hour all the time in previous xpacs

[spring bough]

What’s ur mmr at like 3.2k?

I’m still getting games around 2.7k mmr lol

[severe helm]

Just 2200 solo shuffle

Fuck blitz I know those queues are long

[safe pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/falcon-sam-wilson-outta-line-but-gif-22091662

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/warcraft-orc-wow-blizzard-smile-gif-12610231

[spring bough]

RIP the days of 3k CR in solo shuffle

Wonder if anyone will even get close this season

[wanton breach]

that video is 1000% pure truth

[grave basin]

yea the final boss of seat is pain as fuck as melee

adjusting your cam angle to hit the stuff with the beam

[grave basin]

this video lives rent free in my head too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMZeeSSt86Q

[spring bough]

Dude hit 500% plus speed at some point

[grave basin]

gotta go fast

[spring bough]

So how’s everyone enjoying their last two days of outlaw

[rough rock]

I’m gonna push 2s as high as I can when I’m off work

Then back to being a niche FC with 4 hooks

[spring bough]

Then we all devourers on Tuesday ☑️

[lime oar]

i ain’t playing that cringe ahh spec

[rough rock]

I can’t sit through another crate farm 😭

[grave basin]

dont talk to me or my son ever again

[lime oar]

i just think it looks boring

[wanton breach]

man playing healer in shuffles feels like playing 1v5

gotta trick your own current teammates into surviving

[spring bough]

Why u do that to urself

[wanton breach]

i'm too lazy to gear any of my dps characters

also I get like 1800g per shuffle in form of the void augment runes

[severe helm]

tryna push a lil bit before we get gutted

20% nerf inc to trickster tuesday

pretty brutal

[spring bough]

Just back to fatebound

Wonder if I should switch now so it’s not a shock Tuesday

[severe helm]

yeah thats only getting a 5-7% nerf

[spring bough]

Ig four grips for blitz will be better than two w losing dmg

Hope I can still solo rets for nodes 😭

[severe helm]

you were able to before?

how bad are those rets

ret wins like every 1v1 in the game

[spring bough]

As trickster I am

[ember pawn]

What is the best way to reach 1950? Shufle or blitz?

[severe helm]

blitz lol

[spring bough]

No doubt blitz

[severe helm]

blitz is about 800-1200mmr more inflated than solo shuffle

being 2k in shuffle is similar to being 2800 in blitz

[spring bough]

What if ur like 2250 in shuffle

[severe helm]

2850? lol

or 3050 sorry

top 10 players of solo shuffle is like 2400 rating, top 10 of blitz is 3300

so its about 900 rating apart

[waxen meteor]

yeah shuffle doesn't make a lot of sense

blitz mmr is >>>>>

btw, do we actually WANT to craft gear this season for higher mastery?

I feel the conquest pieces can be actually better with more vers? since s1 we are still far from vers threshold

[gusty hedge]

Daily Reminder

[spring bough]

Oh u famous or something

Yall going back to double vanish with fatebound?

Feel like lethality would be piss with it and charger is meh

[gleaming sentinel]

I pretty much play double can always. Just feels good

[spring bough]

Guess we turning back into a cc bot even tho we can’t spam cheap 😭

[silent linden]

The 298 Galactic whatever they’re called should be used right away on weapons and trinkets? Are there some specific guidelines for them?

[spring bough]

MH > dps trinket > OH > medallion

[gleaming sentinel]

I’m gonna keep playing all 3 rogue specs bro. Makes no sense to keep getting upset at the same shot every season. lol

[lime oar]

we just need some mmr injection

happiness

[kind thunder]

when playing assa with DTB, should we use wound poison first and amplifying poison second or should we use amplifying poison first and wound second? since the second one has 30% less application chance

[outer sky]

All poisons have 30% reduced application chance when playing that talent

[kind thunder]

ah, thx

[pulsar trellis]

really struggling with action bars / dont have any maccros set up / anyone available for walkthrough?

[hybrid palm]

Why is hook point not a solo shuffle map

[dark kernel]

This is the way to happiness

[spring bough]

Okay Mr sub rogue

[gleaming sentinel]

idk whats worse, crate farming or leveling

[spring bough]

leveling by far

@gusty hedge could have a gold empire with a leveling business LMAO

[rough rock]

I didn’t even fucking think about this

Thanks for ruining my day even more

[severe helm]

yeah its not even close

leveling is 1000 times worse

[potent pivot]

What is up with this series rn

[rough rock]

What’s happening im at work

[potent pivot]

Echo 0-2 streamerzone

And streamerzone had mad momentum in this 3rd match

[rough rock]

Echo losing would be like Rome falling

[potent pivot]

1-2

[spring bough]

Don’t call it a comeback yet

[gleaming sentinel]

omg i cant do these crates... this is just so boring

[molten hedge]

They’d still go to blizzcon iirc

[molten hedge]

I was just in one not long ago for alli lol

[potent pivot]

pop open netflix or yt bud

or awc

[molten hedge]

It’s the worst when u are getting like 3 crates

So boring waiting 5 mins between each

[potent pivot]

sometimes the timers are really tight

so you bang out 4 back to back then have 8 minutes to afk and watch tv

[molten hedge]

Horde had a raid too

I just get weps then I shuffle

I’m so impatient sometimes like I’ll send shuffle with half honor gear lol

[proven field]

It is the absolute worst - but if you queue for your dailies and weeklies it’s not so bad - especially with a healer

[gleaming sentinel]

soon as i get full honor gear im just goin for it, idc

[outer sky]

Can you even do that? I thought you needed a pvp ilvl of at least 276 (full honor gear) to even be able to press queue for solo shuffle and blitz

[molten hedge]

You’re right I mean 2s and 3s lfg

Idk how many pieces you can be missing if u have the 3 crafted pieces

LFG is rough man I’m not used to it

[outer sky]

For the vast majority of the time ive played this game there was no solo queue. Just feast or famine in lfg

[molten hedge]

The amount of 1400 healer streamers is insane

Didn’t know that was a thing

[outer sky]

Yeahhhh

[molten hedge]

I’ve had 2 today tell me to sub for wins like brother you’re hundreds of games in hard stuck at 1400 you should pay me

[ocean thunder]

streamers that heal at 1400 or 1400 level healers that stream?

[molten hedge]

1400 level healers that stream

[outer sky]

Last night I was bored and did "viewer 2s" with this guy

https://check-pvp.com/us/Kel'Thuzad/Holyhealss

We ended up going 11-2

And I got him the 1950 wep enchant for the season

And honestly the 2 games we lost we really shouldn't have lost

[ocean thunder]

Gosh 7-8min games in AWC are unwatchable

[outer sky]

Then dont watch em lol

[ocean thunder]

I end up watching it all on replay and start a few mins before the end

well i want to watch AWC, but if you know it's gonna be 5 mins of nothingness

[outer sky]

I dont even get the appear right now

"Who will win??? Rogue/Mage/Druid or...Rogue/Mage/Druid???"

[ocean thunder]

yeah it's more fun when it's a bit more diverse

[outer sky]

Bicmex couldnt even qualify for top 8 playing survival lmao

[ocean thunder]

plus when games end up at like 4mins, but the thing is that Blizz wants to tone down burst and the only other factor that could end games sooner is mana/dampening

[outer sky]

They need to giga nuke healing

Healing being OP is literally the source of everything thats wrong with WoW PvP

Thats why there's so much obnoxious CC in the game

You need it

Because if a healer is ever free nothing can die

If theyre not CCd for like half a second they can negate your whole go

Fix that shit and everything else vastly improves

[ocean thunder]

I was like but health pools by 30% and nerf healing by 20% or so - something to make good goes not be negated by 1-2 seconds of free healing and at the same time reduce the insta kills in 2 seconds

[outer sky]

The second part of that is fine

The first part really has no value

[spring bough]

But according to Blizz the people are dying too fast

[outer sky]

Hot take: metas where people can get globaled in 2 seconds are healthier for the game.

Because in those metas, players can overcome whatever theoretical disadvantage theyre at due to blizzards bad tuning and still win by playing for their one shot.

And also, contrary to popular belief, those metas are beneficial to new players trying to learn the game because when you lose a match because you got globaled its typically very obvious why and how you lost and to what. Thats a lot more digestible to new players than trying to map out where and what went wrong across a 5-7 minute long chess game that is the last arena match they lost to try and make sense of what happened

[outer sky]

Asking Blizzard how to fix WoW PvP is like asking Humpty Dumpty how to sit on a wall

[gleaming sentinel]

I’m going full mastery caster dh bro

[spring bough]

Just did an 85k eradicate crit into a 81k normal devour and smoked this mage lol

[potent pivot]

Fuck going devourer

We all go mage

That way we just never get meaningfully nerfed

[spring bough]

EW

[outer sky]

Ret?

[molten hedge]

Idk why but ret isn’t that fun to me

I’ve tried it like 2 or 3 times and I can’t ever stick to it

[outer sky]

"Idk why"

[potent pivot]

Ret isn’t even fun to rets

It’s just a free ride

People take free shit

[molten hedge]

Must be

[outer sky]

Maybe because it has a Fisher Price rotation and an answer to literally every game mechanic which removes any element of meaningful decision making?

You just press 2 buttons then trade one of your 10 externals every enemy go

[molten hedge]

Fisher price 🤣

[outer sky]

Ret paladin gameplay:

"Hmm....my healer is in CC. Should I trinket for him or not?"

[gleaming sentinel]

Too small brain for mage sorry

[outer sky]

"Oh no my teammate is getting combusted on. Do i use my physical or magical immunity on them?"

[proven kayak]

If rogue becomes bad I go survival that might be worse tho

[outer sky]

Bicmex is probably the second best survival hunter to ever play this game and even he couldnt make top 8 as surv this awc

[proven kayak]

Okay to be fair awc isn’t my goal

I just like playing sub and survival

[outer sky]

Current meta is sub>>>>>surv

[potent pivot]

That’s last weeks tuning tho

[proven kayak]

Who is first ?

[outer sky]

True

[outer sky]

Jellybeans, of course

[frail ivy]

whats the best site to use to check sub pvp gear?

[proven kayak]

Oh yeah make sense

[proven kayak]

Yeah that’s what I’m playing

[outer sky]

Murlok.io but the best thing to do would be to just follow the gearing guide pinned in this channel

[frail ivy]

ty

also to get my 9 epic heraldrys for crafting do i just need to win 1 bg?

[potent pivot]

Ye

[frail ivy]

i just won one but not sure where to get them from

[molten hedge]

Sometimes u get bad rng I’ve gotten them from my first skirms

[potent pivot]

U get a quest

BG wins are guaranteed I’m pretty positive

But training grounds do not count

[frail ivy]

from an npc or just pops up?

[potent pivot]

The quest just pops up

Then u turn it in at an npc iirc

[frail ivy]

okok ty

[proven kayak]

Same

[molten hedge]

I will never forget last ssn i fully geared a character before i got the quest

I was so mad lol

They deff buffed it or fixed the bug where it didn’t drop

[mystic tundra]

Yeah drops from other game modes alot easier now I could win 5 shuffles and never had it. But was always 1 bg win I found

[frail ivy]

okok i got it

[outer sky]

@spring bough is BGE working for you?

People are saying its working but I cant even see it on my screen

its updated and enabled

[spring bough]

its working great today

showing orb carriers i can click

and FCs too

[frail ivy]

do you think its ok to craft weapon waist and wrist first ?

i got like 0 gear rn

was looking at trimaz gear on murlok and thats what he has

[potent pivot]

No

[potent pivot]

#1283780831147589713

[mystic tundra]

There's another add-on bge fixed or something to run alongside it now

[outer sky]

i have that one

[warm scarab]

if a new to pvp DK and Disc wanted help in 3v3 what spec would u run with them, i feel like they dont grasp the cc set ups yet. thinking of rolling an Assa, since my sub gear works but i havnt played it this season

[outer sky]

you need 2 addons?

[potent pivot]

I also have trimaz’s guide pinned where he says you shouldn’t craft a weapon

That’s something sweaty people do week 1 of the season

[mystic tundra]

Not sure I have them both running and no issues

[potent pivot]

Waste of conquest

[outer sky]

check what game version your regular BGE is updated to

[potent pivot]

Either outlaw (until reset because nerfs) or assa

[frail ivy]

says haste vers for the missive on craft but i thought we wanted mast vers

[potent pivot]

Depends on what bracket you want to play

[frail ivy]

not a clue, brand new to pvp so

[potent pivot]

Just go master then ig

Mastery is better for blitz/rmp, haste is better for shuffle

It doesn’t matter that much

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

• Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Haste>Crit
• Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
  You want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw to lower the GCD during Adrenaline Rush. (25% for Trickster for energy)
• Subtlety: Vers>Haste to 200 OR 600-700>Mastery>Crit
  Sub now uses a haste threshold to extend Dance and shorten Secret Technique's CD.
  Sub haste rating chart:
  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923898501529600/1483399511836725378/image.png?ex=69bc6d33&is=69bb1bb3&hm=21db8524f3add252a5f7556c91a39c6d076b5cbf29926a0ff3de6f1dad996660&

[frail ivy]

okok i do want to play shuffle eventually but learning the basics for now in unrated

[potent pivot]

Mast is more burst/haste is more consistent dps

[frail ivy]

aight sweet, and do we go 4 set on sub or 2?

[outer sky]

4

every piece besides chest

[frail ivy]

ok thanks bro

[potent pivot]

4 set and insignia trinket get you to the minimum haste threshold

[spring bough]

135k collapsing star right before all that

[potent pivot]

Kalvish DCed mid match

And still won

[spring bough]

inc more outlaw nerfs

[crimson widget]

what should i upgrade to 298 first? Mh into trinket?

[potent pivot]

Mainhand, dps trinket, offhand, medallion

[crimson widget]

i hope all this pvp gear farming is worth it kekw

requires so much conquest though

[frail ivy]

is rated the fastest way to farm conquest gear?

[crimson widget]

i think if you have a good group then war crate farming will be the fastest

[potent pivot]

Technically yes

But as a new player with no gear

You’re not gonna have fun

[crimson widget]

yeah i can vouch for that lmao

the first few matches will be alright

but then ppl start to one shot you and feel like being unkillable

[potent pivot]

Join a war crate farming raid group

[frail ivy]

just joined one now

[mystic tundra]

At work now sorry won't be back for about 12hours

[spring bough]

hows the mage coming along

[potent pivot]

At work foo

Torn between qing law for a couple more days or just leveling new shit

Kinda cba with the game already

The massive tuning swings are too annoying

[molten hedge]

Yeah new meta every week or two is crazy

[spring bough]

"hey here is a new hero talent" 2 weeks later "ohh so its too OP lets nerf it" and now every1 swapping hero specs

real great devs really great stuff

[potent pivot]

By the time I level and gear something it’s trash again lmfao

Swear they’re trying to farm level boosts out of idiots

[molten hedge]

That thought occurred to me too

It’s been crazy

But you’re right mage is the only constant lol

[potent pivot]

Meta is just going to be FMD and ret warr now

Maybe warr sham

Such a joke

[dark kernel]

new warrior alt

[molten hedge]

Is it called FMD? Thought it was just WMD but I get what u sayin

[potent pivot]

Healer balance is so scuffed

[potent pivot]

Wdym

[molten hedge]

Is FMD fury mage Druid

[potent pivot]

Feral

[molten hedge]

Warrior mage

[spring bough]

im bored w the season already i think... got all the achieves and stuff like what else is there to do till s2 lol

[potent pivot]

Isn’t warr mage usually a scuffed comp

[molten hedge]

It was rly good a couple SSNs ago remember

[rough rock]

I said I cast fireball

[molten hedge]

I think it is usually but when u pair best caster with best melee good things happen haha like WW mage

[rough rock]

When this dogshit orb build is finally just a pve thing my missiles be flung everywhere

[severe helm]

Mage always hides from the nerfs

Even though that was the common denominator

In all these comps

[severe helm]

Was great in SL

It's good in damp meta usually

Cuz it's like unkillable

[molten hedge]

Yeah warr is so annoying with peels. Thunder is one of my least favorite comps to face when it’s good

[spring bough]

figured it out

mage is the problem

how do we get ahold of blizz

[potent pivot]

When has mage ever not been seen in awc

Ever

Even when rogue is bad

It’s just FMP or lock mage or etc etc etc

[severe helm]

EXAAACTLY

Yet somehow

No one goes after it

[molten hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/mib-men-in-black-will-smith-flash-gif-7529438

[potent pivot]

Because it doesn’t fit the hunter cartel narrative

Hunter is good into mage

[severe helm]

Truuuuu

[gleaming sentinel]

You should level mage then

[gleaming sentinel]

strat / legend

ksl til inflation

https://klipy.com/gifs/lilo-e-stitch-lilo-and-stitch-4--k01KQR4MBYPE76VDV0P9QNG0YGN

[spring bough]

19 more games for that XD

[gilded gulch]

lmao i can feel this ret seethe

when i shiv crippling him on cd

[stoic spruce]

I'm leveling a ret

I can't take this anymore

[spring bough]

60k dps... next guy did 30k dps lololol

[gleaming sentinel]

i want that for me

[spring bough]

91k was a hit too LOL

meteor and world killer are all passives from casting lol

[gilded gulch]

nerf flameshock

[molten hedge]

One of our friends is insane. He got his DH 90 yday lmfao

[spring bough]

Amazing lol

[molten hedge]

He also got like 2300 outlaw his first time trying it in one day

I wish I was that good

[spring bough]

when u have a priest that dispells 0 polys on urself

most frustrating thing in the world

[severe helm]

no shot he was able to get that many shuffle pops in a day

20 shuffles in one day bro?

[stoic spruce]

Must've queued prime time and got lucky and started really early

Does bro have a W-2?

[rough rock]

i need to do my taxes

keep forgetting

[stoic spruce]

Smh

[spring bough]

I did like 100+ rounds in a day lol

[rough rock]

No paid taxes till gas isnt more expensive than my car

[severe helm]

queues must have been insanely hot

120 is ridiculous

[stoic spruce]

Remember who you're doing this for...

[molten hedge]

Trust me bro is an animal he will sit at computer all day

[severe helm]

thats wild

[rough rock]

okay let me delete that

[spring bough]

Everything was prob less than 10 min. Last Saturday I que’d for like 14 straight hours 😂

[molten hedge]

First shuffle ln around 10pm

[severe helm]

thats how my spriest started

I just stopped playing it

not worth

[molten hedge]

Idt sp buffs will be enough Tuesday

[spring bough]

Ray of frost thru the pillar on mid of black rook needs to be fixed

That’s so fucking broken

[severe helm]

spriest will suck as long as tentacle slam exists

they need to rework it so it can hit the target

Im just gona keep reporting that bug every time i log into my priest

[spring bough]

Buddy was complete opposite side of this mage and was hitting him with ray of frost directly thru a pillar

[severe helm]

its a channel

you cant break channels with los

[spring bough]

Yeah nah that’s fucking broken

[severe helm]

thats how its always been lol

[spring bough]

Channel should break on Los like that

[severe helm]

same with void torrent

[spring bough]

Actually insane

[severe helm]

would be kinda weak if it were the other way around

I dont think you need to change that mechanic

to balance it

ray has been around for a long time now

and it wasnt op before

the channel through los is far from the issue

[spring bough]

Buddy is 10% behind pillar using it. My mage can’t hit him he’s stuck and dies. If my mage coulda got around we woulda had it but bros getting hit thru a pillar

Actually wild

I wonder if void ray hits thru pillars since it’s a channel

[severe helm]

void ray isnt a targeted spell

so no

but you may want to check

pretty sure its effectively just an "aoe"

its the lock on channels that dont break from los

mind flay

void torrent

ray

etc

drain life

drain soul

arcane missiles

disintegrate

[spring bough]

A lot of spells that need some AI fixing

[severe helm]

I dont think that needs fixingh

its a legacy way the game works

its not a balancing problem

[spring bough]

Just like priest MC that DCs people? Lmao

[potent pivot]

Your fault for letting them MC you

[severe helm]

thats not even remotely the same rofl

its like saying DRs need fixing

cuz your cc no longer works after 2 drs

or how cheap shot goes through dodge/parry

[spring bough]

It’s a legacy thing

[severe helm]

yes thats my point lol

ty

[spring bough]

That was my point

[severe helm]

wat

[spring bough]

Nvm

[stoic spruce]

Two paths lead to the same destination

https://tenor.com/view/wise-gif-5472200

[rough rock]

Channels shouldnt work through pillar. I can understand a already flying aimed shot or something similar but shit like rapid fire and ray shouldnt

The meshing is there just a few lines of actual code to throw a raycast function on it 😭

[grave basin]

Its been that way since vanilla wow

It's a cool mechanic imo should absolutely stay

[potent pivot]

So was cheap shot

[stoic spruce]

I can't understand an already flying aimed shot, you're a better man than I

[potent pivot]

And kidney cd

[spring bough]

And they ruined it 😭

[grave basin]

Just realised how much design space is taken up by ww/dh existing

Everything havoc has could have been a sub ability sans eye beam

[potent pivot]

[rough rock]

how is being able to hit some one through walls a cool ability

might as well get rid of the pillars

[grave basin]

Cause it opens you to being kicked

And it costs damage to cancel to avoid being kicked

[rough rock]

I think youre reading me wrong

im def okay with the channel

but it should LOS

[grave basin]

You think only kicks are melee?

[rough rock]

https://tenor.com/view/moving-goalposts-ps5-sony-pony-gif-21602444

[grave basin]

How is that moving goal posts lmao

If you cant los it youre gonna get csed

Cause you have to channel a 2 second long cast just to do damage

[rough rock]

I mean when its doing 50% of someones hp

[grave basin]

What channel does 50% of someones hp

[rough rock]

ray, rapids close to it, missles when it actually worked

[grave basin]

Only ray is close to that and thats the tradeoff for having all your damage on it

[potent pivot]

?

[grave basin]

Yoy cant even move while channeling it unlike missiles or VT

[dark kernel]

Y'all notice how NA AWC finals is 4 rogue mains. Why do other mains suck ass and cannot compete?

[potent pivot]

Oh wow

3-3 gators/jung is crazy

[severe helm]

You cant start it out of los

Projectiles still hit if you move behind a pillar

Y'all are confusing the issue

A channel just shouldn't do that much damage

Or any spell frankly

[potent pivot]

Gators close it out

W

[grave basin]

Truve ray's problem is mostly its damage

It's bad design when all your damage is one button too

If ray was like void torrent no one would care

[severe helm]

exactly

[quick temple]

how are yall jus finding out about channels thru los

[severe helm]

fr

[molten hedge]

bc u dont play casters til 1500

[stoic spruce]

I'm kinda shocked this isn't common knowledge

[half zenith]

I have been informed of the slander against my employment in here

And have come to defend my self

[stoic spruce]

LMAOOOO

I'm listening

I'm dying from laughter hold on

[half zenith]

So I just got back from a month training thing in the army and wanted to spend the weekend no lifing

[gleaming sentinel]

LOL

[half zenith]

ALSO I have work tmrw

[stoic spruce]

Holy fuck that's awesome

[half zenith]

And technically I hit 90 at like noon yesterday but didn’t shuffle til around 9 pm

[stoic spruce]

I'm at work and people watched me laugh

[half zenith]

Lmfao

[stoic spruce]

Alright

I believe you

You get a pass

9pm is sketch

But okay

[stoic spruce]

What's your MOS?

Jc

[half zenith]

Dm

[stoic spruce]

Kk

He's a chad dw

I have confirmed

[stiff cedar]

he is indeed

[stoic spruce]

One thing remains

What rogue spec does he play...

[molten hedge]

he doesnt play rog but tried it for a day and got like #7 ladder or some shit

outlaw

[half zenith]

No that was devourer

I only got like 2150 on outlaw

And then realized I wasn’t built for rogue

[molten hedge]

ohh ok 2150 is still high for one day on a spec u dont play LOL

[half zenith]

So went back to a more comfortable class

Also was 2 days but yeah outlaw was super fun

[stoic spruce]

Oh yeah outlaw

As long as it ain't sub

[half zenith]

I am a sub hater as my only r1 is on WW and I also play dh

[stoic spruce]

Wtf

[half zenith]

So get cucked pretty hard by sub

[stoic spruce]

I don't like how you're better than me

[half zenith]

It’s a shuffle r1

[stoic spruce]

Well I guess that's fine

[half zenith]

And prized ww was a war crime

[stoic spruce]

No that's cool tho

[molten hedge]

lmfao

[stoic spruce]

Oh yeah I heard about that

[molten hedge]

yea see myth i talk ab you

[stoic spruce]

I barely played last expac because I hated outlaws playstyle

[half zenith]

I am seeing that now

[stoic spruce]

Mythic he called you a bitch btw

[severe helm]

last xpac was kinda shit pvp wise imo

DF was a good time

except s1

[half zenith]

I should stream more you give me free advertising

[severe helm]

we dont talk about the rets

[gleaming sentinel]

[half zenith]

I probably deserved it

[gleaming sentinel]

i listened to that whole thing

[stoic spruce]

Ofc you did, I posted it

[gleaming sentinel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/reluctantly-alonzo-mourning--k01KQRHM605CVFDZ2E4RS93T8HR

[stoic spruce]

I'm just letting you know

[half zenith]

I’m gonna have to search my name in here to see all the shit he has talked

[stoic spruce]

Nah he didn't, I'm just stirring the pot. Was hoping he'd see it

He said "our friend" earlier implying that you're friends with people here

[half zenith]

Damn you have 1000+ messsges in here @molten hedge

https://tenor.com/view/damn-old-gif-4327453260111621237

[stoic spruce]

Most of that is misinformation and hot takes

[half zenith]

As I would expect

[stoic spruce]

LMAO

[half zenith]

I gotta be careful in here if I speak my true feelings about the yellow clsss in here I will be taken out back

[stoic spruce]

Dw, we do it to sub players for just existing

Yellow players are a club

[half zenith]

As you should

I really only hate rogue because of how well it complements mage and because sub counters all my classes

[stoic spruce]

Mage and sub are the problems I agree

[gleaming sentinel]

Dies in stun syndrome plagues the best of us

[stoic spruce]

Buff outlaw

It's only cool when the specs I play do it

[molten hedge]

Bro i have like 50k msgs in grim cord

[stiff cedar]

Im guiseppi's mage for main queues (started on rog as a kid) so im 99% when he said "our" he was referring to me LOL cause we cool with myth

[stoic spruce]

Who tf is josiah

[stiff cedar]

guiseppi he changed name mb

[stoic spruce]

Oh okay I see

Pieces ain't fitting but I'll take your word for it

Cuz you weren't there >.>

[stiff cedar]

everyone needs someone to just randomly share a shuffle screenshot and make you feel like you suck at the game and myth is my guy for that

[stiff cedar]

im the one who invited myth lmao I promise I know him I was just tryna clear up your q bout who was "our"

gon fkoff now

[stoic spruce]

No no no

You don't get off that easy blue name

[stiff cedar]

whatchu want

[stoic spruce]

A friend

[stiff cedar]

I might just have an opening you can fill

[stoic spruce]

Okay blue name you're free to go

[stiff cedar]

how kind ty sir

[stoic spruce]

You're most welcome

[stiff cedar]

why is it blue

does it just rando pick

[stoic spruce]

10,000 blessings to you and your family

No

[stiff cedar]

I just dont like assa so I dont wanna pick that one

[stoic spruce]

Outlaw has cool people

[stiff cedar]

outlaw is my favorite by a long shot

all my specs 1600 tho ngl

[stoic spruce]

Everyone who says otherwise is in denial

NoTrickz doesn't like the spec on spec violence but you can't hide what's inside

[stiff cedar]

feel like he dont like a lot of things

[stoic spruce]

I hear he doesn't like Dr. Pepper either

[stiff cedar]

the father of medicine??

dang

[stoic spruce]

[stiff cedar]

rip my doctor he got hit by a bazooka

[stoic spruce]

Man he thinks about every time he hits the hookah

[molten hedge]

yall are cracking me up

i didnt pick my spec

[stoic spruce]

What happened, the spec chose you?

Give me a break with that cheesey stuff

[molten hedge]

no idk how i got assa in my name

im also not a new member atp

[outer sky]

Eh year and a half

But like

Im also tagged as a new member

But ive been in here for 7 years

[stiff cedar]

idk how to fix that i literally clicked the roles 6 years ago

[gusty hedge]

at the top of channel list very top u can click channels and roles

[stiff cedar]

I clicked that did it fix

nope

all I got from this was freshly getting the new member role after 6 years LOL

[gusty hedge]

its a sign ! Sub is calling you to the dark side

[stoic spruce]

I'm sorry young one

We don't make exceptions here, you're an enemy of the state (Outlaw) now

I kod

Kid

Idk why it's not working that's weird

Maybe pick a hero tree role as well

[stiff cedar]

nope this is a problem

I just assumed yellow was rog why did you have to make me aware

[stoic spruce]

There's only one real yellow

And it sure as shit ain't sub

[stiff cedar]

I was just living my life

[stoic spruce]

Mhm

[stiff cedar]

I have hidden opportunity now i dont even rly like ambush that much

and im blue

[stoic spruce]

Hmmm

[stiff cedar]

I got it

LETS GO

[stoic spruce]

Yayyy

@gusty hedge look at me I'm a poser

[stiff cedar]

the old role assign in #welcome was superceding anything i picked in channels and roles

[stoic spruce]

Ohhhh

[stiff cedar]

yeah thatd do it

[stoic spruce]

The nerve

[pearl bane]

whats good my goat @gleaming sentinel

[gusty hedge]

yeah nice!
was wondering why couldnt remove the new member or unselect a role you've already picked in role selection

[stoic spruce]

Damn, PK got pinged by my goat

[stiff cedar]

yeah I now have the new member role and cant unselect it this is fkd

I just didnt wanna be blue 😭

[pearl bane]

whats up bro @stoic spruce

[stoic spruce]

I rage left the server and came back and now I have it

[stoic spruce]

Nothin

[pearl bane]

sometimes i gotta take a look around in the rogue discord

i always see my boy PK hyping me up

[stoic spruce]

I was drinking and uhuh wasn't my thing and I was on a losing streak because outlaw was unplayable out of adr

[stoic spruce]

He good people

You can tell because he has a yellow name

[pearl bane]

thats right

[stoic spruce]

Dazed can you make a Twitter post and get outlaw unnerfed? Just a tiny bit. Nothing craY

Crazy

[gusty hedge]

Never Forget

[stoic spruce]

Dude

They were the first ones I thought of lol

It was NOT my favorites

I would've pinged @rough rock

[gusty hedge]

See @gleaming sentinel We are afterthoughts

[stoic spruce]

That's it

I'm ranking yall

Nvm

Bad idea

Y'all are up there tho

[rough rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1153252202832465991/1337763891450609776/speed-3.gif

[outer sky]

@spring bough = @vocal surge > @rough rock = @gusty hedge > @gleaming sentinel > @stoic spruce > @severe helm

[severe helm]

sup

[stoic spruce]

He ranked us

@gleaming sentinel Sorry bro, didn't make the cut

[rough rock]

thats not a rank of skill cause id be at the end

[outer sky]

Oh shit I forgot about PK

[stoic spruce]

No I would

[rough rock]

outlaw dalaran 5v5 duels to set the list

[severe helm]

proud to be last

[stoic spruce]

Meet me in Org, first one to win loses

[rough rock]

😭

[stoic spruce]

By a blue name too

Lucky guy

I jest

I'll rank now, this is fun

[outer sky]

Its a rank of how capable outlaw players are of identifying the color red

[gusty hedge]

[stoic spruce]

You know when you ask your mom who the favorite child is and they say they love them all equally but you know that's BS?

That's how I feel now

[rough rock]

i like the color red

[stoic spruce]

I'm the mom

[rough rock]

thats the 9th blitz dodge btw

[vocal surge]

https://tenor.com/view/majima-bomb-goro-majima-like-a-dragon-yakuza-yakuza-2-gif-18355042511560859862

[stoic spruce]

1.) @rough rock 1.) @spring bough

1.5) @gusty hedge 1.5) @vocal surge 1.5.) @gleaming sentinel

2.)@stiff cedar

There's be more but they changed colors

[gusty hedge]

Rip Pk

[dark moon]

What's the ranking based on?

Looks?

[stoic spruce]

I gottem

[stoic spruce]

My favorite yellow names

[dark moon]

Interesting

[stoic spruce]

You make my list on favorite blue names

Granted there's only like 3

[gusty hedge]

[outer sky]

Wish I could get red name

[stoic spruce]

You're on my blue name list

[gusty hedge]

#welcome message

[outer sky]

Test

Rip

Test

Wtf

[stoic spruce]

Use the roles and channels

[outer sky]

Im yellow

Eeww

Wtf

[gusty hedge]

[stoic spruce]

Shot up in ranking

[gusty hedge]

one more check/ uncheck

[stoic spruce]

Use the channels and roles channel

[outer sky]

I did

[stoic spruce]

In select these

Unselect

[outer sky]

I did it!

Oh man this is so legit

[stoic spruce]

Yayy

[outer sky]

Feel like im no longer living a lie

[rough rock]

W winstreak on the way?

https://tenor.com/view/pera-algorand-algo-hopium-copium-gif-16765445473855345349

[outer sky]

Better winstreak now before you get nerfed on tuesday

I love how Outlaw was OP for legit 2 weeks and blizzard was just like "uhhh yeah no LOL"

If this was ret

The notes would have been like

"Retribution burst is a bit higher than we'd like. So we're tuning down divine toll damage and buffing some of their sustained damage to ensure a well rounded damage profile.

Divine Toll damage reduced by 3%
Final Verdict damage increased by 75%"

[stoic spruce]

Don't even sound unrealistic

[outer sky]

Because its not lmao

[stoic spruce]

Smh

[rough rock]

imma just push 2s ngl im over blitz for the season

[mystic tundra]

I got burnt out after my 6rogue WSG match yesterday

[outer sky]

2s is literally infested with Dev DHs. Literally 80+% of games you play will be against Dev DH/Healer. I did 9 games of 2s last night and these were the comps we fought. We legit stopped queueing because of how boring it was to fight the same shit nearly every single game.

And Im SURE if we kept queueing it would have just been against more Dev DH teams

And I dont think whatever 5% nerf they're getting on tuesday is going to really change this either

[dark moon]

That's good

Need to get elite set on my dh

Kekw

[outer sky]

Pretty sure dev dh gets that just for loading into the game

[dark moon]

Need to load then

I started playing feral in pve and was thinking of trying it in pvp, but then i remembered tonyferalmovies sitting bear 24/7