pvp

[spring bough]

Curse of the dreadblades 👀

[stoic spruce]

They cooked

That's all I'll say

I just wanna play Dreadblades, that's the only reason it's on my mind

[dark moon]

It was a satisfying button to press, ngl

Did they remove it in bfa or shadowlands?

[stoic spruce]

Bfa

Gave it back after

[dark moon]

I remember having aoe bombardment of some sort in bfa if im not mistaken

Or was that some borrowed power

[stoic spruce]

That was some borrowed power for sure

Twilight dev?

[dark moon]

Nah it was like circle aoe that we used

But the best was bte being ranged stun ❤️

We didn't know how good we had it

[dark moon]

Cannonball barrage

[rough rock]

I did a 6 in pvp gear and got kicked after the second boss

[stoic spruce]

Yeah das legion

[rough rock]

Like Mfers you accepted me here 🤣

[rough rock]

Holy shit I forgot we used to do skills like this

I do kinda prefer what we have now if it was actually worked on

[lime oar]

never ever again

that shit was ass

[stoic spruce]

It has its pros and cons

[dark moon]

I don't really care how my talents work or look as long as it feels good to play

I want all spells everywhere 😄

[stoic spruce]

Notice the lack of Subterfuge btw

Just vanish and a dream

Like a MAN

[dark moon]

Subterfuge only for sub

[stoic spruce]

As it should be...

[dark moon]

I agree with you tbh

But assa would feel bad without it

So would outlaw

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/michaeljordan-crying-sad-pouroneout-gif-4986360

[ocean thunder]

was watching pikaboo's stream yesterday and outlaw seems kinda busted in terms of arena/shuffle dmg.
Not gonna play it but damn i am not used to rogues topping the meters.
Then again, not every rogue plays like a pro..

What to do vs outlaw? target them or pray you can kill someone before they do?

I also see assa is doing good on m+ and i hope they dont nerf in pvp !

[rough rock]

Assa burst is scary as hell to deal with as outlaw. If one puts full burst on me and my healer is missing a brain i fall over FAST

Best you can do is stun during ADR window

[ocean thunder]

yeah i'm thinking of tailoring my CC for outlaw kidneys and CDs - if they are not on me. Kindey + disarm

[gusty hedge]

queing rated/ss always gives me anxiety

i hate it

[stoic spruce]

[rough rock]

dropping KS seem fine for 2s we think?

[molten hedge]

2s dampening ramps up fast so that seems kinda troll to me

[rough rock]

thats what im thinking but only 9 people run it lmao

seems like most are dropping it for dispatch

Kinda wanna run double vanish but lethality slaps so hard

[stoic spruce]

Noooo that's the only place it shines

[stoic spruce]

btw the pserver is russian

[abstract stratus]

why do i have an easier time 1v3ing on sin than sub in blitz

this shit dummy

[ocean thunder]

By teh way, i saw an addon yesterday on dissonance (VW) that showed who is targetting your party members. With like colored icons on your party members party health bars and it was pretty good. Maybe more useful for healers but still.
He said it was sArena - do you know if it's there on arena core or ?

[rough rock]

That would be a @potent pivot question

[stoic spruce]

Yeh he a stinker about add-ons

[rough rock]

But top ten aren’t running it on murlok so it must be bad!

[stoic spruce]

He'll know

[stoic spruce]

THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS RAHHHHH

[rough rock]

9-1 in 2v2 this morning after begging my friend to play disc

Can’t wait to get rolled once MMR settles

[ocean thunder]

To be frank VW on 2s is quite fun

[stoic spruce]

It's downloading btw. You know that feeling when blizz drops banger patch notes and you can't wait for reset for the patch to drop?

[ocean thunder]

The amount of dmg you do is stupid and it's fun if your team mate has half a brain

[stoic spruce]

I got that feeling rn

[stoic spruce]

Okay maybe you haven't felt that lately but think back a few years

I should've worded that better, been grim for outlaw

[rough rock]

Can’t wait to see your post about Mr beast giving you free money

[stoic spruce]

It's okay, I have taken precautions

I only gave them my SSN once

[rough rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1484521263199424604/1488922371992846527/togif.gif

[stoic spruce]

Holy moly!

[wanton breach]

how are devourer just stunting on people

cant be touched

outdamaging everyone while doing backflip acrobatics

[lone jasper]

Its Sarena widget

Go to settings, scroll to widget and then scroll down, there is something called “target….”

[molten hedge]

@potent pivot why did we decide stacking hella versa was not as good as 4 set? My friend is trying to gear his outlaw

[ocean thunder]

yeah i just didnt want to change from arena core to sarena

[ocean thunder]

its expected for a new spec to be a bit OP, the stupid thing is that rn Havoc has more steady damage, less burst and is much much more exposed - in other words much worse
why would anyone play havoc?

[spring bough]

Outlaw superiority >>>>>>>>>>

[wanton breach]

insane dmg with insane tankiness and mobility, no downsides so far

at least in shuffle

[grave basin]

got em again again again

[ocean thunder]

On my disc priest alt (with quite good m+ gear) Nulleaus is a joke with Valeera as dps
At least last season's boss had some one shots and cool mechanics

[wanton breach]

oh yeah fucking cakewalk, just spam heal and dispel every 15s and valeera does the rest

[gusty hedge]

Outlaw being its own separate class
can you feel it coming

[spring bough]

What would be the 3 talent specs for it

[grave basin]

we're getting nerfed arent we

[dark moon]

You as in outlaw - most likely yes

I'd prefer not just to be left alone like ret pals

[grave basin]

this is whaaz pov

[molten hedge]

Don’t mention ret

[outer sky]

Yep and the worst part is theyre going to do it by nerfing a bunch of talents that will never get unnerfed no matter what happens

[molten hedge]

Zicore in chat

It’s too early for a ret rant

Hasn’t even been 24 hours

[grave basin]

i think you mean the worst part is they will nerf hero talents in a way that will also nerf sub/assa as collateral

in this case sub

[outer sky]

Assa should be safe cuz it doesnt have trickster

[dark moon]

If they go the usual way it will be unplayable instead of just slightly tuning the dmg

[wanton breach]

going to get nerfed out of spite

[grave basin]

truve

[dark moon]

Pls no, I enjoy it

[outer sky]

"Just in case"

[grave basin]

never forget coin nerf

[molten hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/soccer-fail-owned-ball-smackdown-gif-5718207

[grave basin]

crippling outlaw for an entire season

[wanton breach]

gouge is now 1 min cd, kidney shot only lasts for 2s at 7 cp now, kicks require you to be behind the target within 2yds

[molten hedge]

Assa catching strays

[dark moon]

Sounds familiar

[gusty hedge]

One being ranged/mid ranged focused on procs /multi shots/pistol shots etc with that crackshot gameplay feel
still high apm gameplay, almost like a duelist [Crackshot gunslinger]

2nd being the outlaw we know underhanded brawler consistent/ramp damage /bleeds with some type of burst windows if certain conditions are met [Blackflag Brawler] idk

3rd is up in the air cuz I'm tired and ran out of ideas

[dark moon]

Waking up cold sweat, bed wet

[spring bough]

What you mean WE??

[grave basin]

watched pika's outlaw guide ima outlaw main since wc3

[spring bough]

🤣

[grave basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hve3FePH-L8

[spring bough]

This guy

[grave basin]

call me

azkaboo

[gleaming sentinel]

[gusty hedge]

how it feels getting ccd playing law

[abstract stratus]

monks name is real

[spring bough]

I make these exact same faces too

The worse is when they perfectly chain CC you in a solo

Like a full fear into a full stun. All dispellable lock/pally shit and your healer sits there and watches u fade away

[frozen walrus]

Played against him in 2s last night

Lost 🙁

[spring bough]

https://x.com/bigmoranx/status/1750385498781299168?s=46&t=YKaisWqFkCTf8y-DfuEaHw

Bigmoran (@Bigmoranx)

The Rogue PvP cycle.

X · Jan 25, 2024, 5:09 AM

[dark moon]

That not even true

Pvp public figures used to be based af, but it seems they put something in the water, cause they all bioches now with dumb takes

[spring bough]

That just bigmoran guys a bozo 😂

[dark moon]

Others too, it's not only him

Everything for clicks and impressions over the interwebs, amrite?

Kasu for example is losing his mind

[spring bough]

Gotta get that monthly X pay up 😂

[outer sky]

LMAO that DH is in my guild

[spring bough]

Send that clip to him of getting nuked LMAO

[grave basin]

kasu having a meltdown

[spring bough]

Again?

[grave basin]

like the whole week

is just schizoposting

[dark moon]

it hasnt stopped in order for it to be "again"

tonyferalmovies was crying like this couple of years back, seems kasu succumbed to the dark whispers 😄

[outer sky]

He did go 0-6 lmao

[abstract stratus]

dh players are such edge lords

[proven kayak]

Real

[outer sky]

If the healers were the problem i feel like they wouldnt both lose ONLY when hes on one of their teams

Like the healers are only bad when paired with him

[molten hedge]

Why would you ADR twice when ADR still has 10seconds left…?

Seems troll asf

[spring bough]

I wish the second ADR added the full 15 seconds and didn’t just reset the duration to 15

[molten hedge]

Yeah that seems dumb as hell to do

[spring bough]

WTB a hotfix for that

So if adr has 10 left and I press it again I’m at 25 seconds

DH demon form is like that on tank spec

[molten hedge]

Yeah I gotcha but wasting 10secs on ADR seems so bad

Like I get that’s maximum burst but damn

He also says KS does nothing for a dmg buff

@potent pivot sir

[spring bough]

Someone come correct Pika

[molten hedge]

I can get prepping in opener but not sending ADR immediately

He didn’t do that in his actual games a minute later lmfao

[potent pivot]

He is also kinda dumb so idk

[molten hedge]

Proceeds to not overlap ADR in opener and uses KS after his guide says the opposite

Genius

If I have good uptime on the first ADR I don’t prep immediately bc ADR is coming off cd soon. Then after that I’ll usually Prep

[grave basin]

atleast i have goblito as entertainment

RP walking 1 billion steps all over azeroth listening to AIsongs about his own toon

[pastel burrow]

goblito is great

[grave basin]

true

[pastel burrow]

its funnier considering he's got his own songs muted

so only the stream hears them

[grave basin]

he has one about bicmex stealing his lunch

kekw

[pastel burrow]

its so dumb

[grave basin]

/lean

[severe helm]

hes probably referring to flawless form

but ks does give us UB procs which hit pretty hard

and gives us more coups

which def hit hard

[outer sky]

What is this sorcery????

[spring bough]

Bro tryna sandbag all the fotm outlaws so we don’t get nerfed. Respect to pika

Love to see it 🔥

[potent pivot]

You still stack around a minimum of 25% vers. Once fully conquest geared etc. vers just isn’t a good stat for damage.

[potent pivot]

Iirc arena core has it

Idk why everyone is so blown away by that though, we can see target of target etc

[grave basin]

the bicmex stole my lunch song is on now

[molten hedge]

Yea I have 25% as well as most other outlaws I’m sure with just haste versa gear. Although I believe that’s with the 3% versa talent

[potent pivot]

i'd swap to double vanish/vers talent into sub/rmp

[ocean thunder]

As a healer mainly, you can see who they are focusing and react to swaps earlier

[potent pivot]

ah yea i can see why its nice for healers

[spring bough]

@potent pivot the bible

[potent pivot]

?

[spring bough]

Murlok getting 3mil hits a month. It’s the bible

[potent pivot]

because of m+

[spring bough]

I’d like the believe half that’s for PvP

[potent pivot]

[proven kayak]

I hit 90 with my surv hunter finally I can play and underwhelming class

[little leaf]

can outlaw do good burst damage? Also how is the survivability compared to other melee?

[harsh kiln]

if you have good rng ye

[spring bough]

Yeah. Every ADR has a good “burst”

[harsh kiln]

survivability is ok

[spring bough]

Cloud cover every ADR increases your survivability too

[little leaf]

alright sounds good, is prep mandatory to take in pvp?

[spring bough]

I would say yes

Wanna prep adr, bte, and rush asap on a match start for more cloud cover and more CDR and more dmg

[stoic spruce]

hrnggggggg

x100 exp goes hard

[spring bough]

I wouldn’t mind that back. Or the SOD one that applied a DOT

[stoic spruce]

its literally just sinister strike

they took it away because they HATE pirates

and HATE us

remember this ui though?

Im glad the ClassicUI addon exists because this oozes character

[twin wren]

What rogue spec is best with Devour and Holy Priest in 3s?

[rough rock]

New notes

Oh lmao

Never mind it’s for 12.7

[potent pivot]

you can prolly do any spec devo is op

[twin wren]

😄 im playing sub at the moment. Any advice HOW to play this comp?

[potent pivot]

its still so new i'm not 100% sure

[rough rock]

i didnt lose stealth from adr?

fixed maybe?

[potent pivot]

i've barely played with any

[rough rock]

i gotta test it now

[potent pivot]

thats a fatebound specific thing bro

[rough rock]

OH YOURE RIGHT

god damn ive been making sure i dont have people targetted too looool

[potent pivot]

and only if you're targeting someone+in range to hit them with a coin

[spring bough]

Almost time to pew pew pew some people down

[molten hedge]

i like this one @potent pivot

it's the ultimate cursor one

ive tried cursor trail in the past and did not like that one

[spring bough]

Matches the mog 🔥

[molten hedge]

that's what i was goin for plus i wanted green lmaoo

[late herald]

Hello fellow rogues, im returning player havent played in ~9yrs. Was on rated arena vs rogue unholy dk and lock - lock was invisible from the start. Dont recall lock using stealth/invis. Afaik rogue mass steath do not work in arenas. Any explanation?

[molten hedge]

he couldve used shadowmeld and not moved

[jaunty osprey]

ya maybe meld

[molten hedge]

or if there was a mage he can mass invis

ALTHOUGH

something that has been totally fucking with me

the game starts and my teammates see ppl but theyre not on my screen lol

prob my compooter

[late herald]

there was no mage

so shadowmead

[molten hedge]

yea then he just shadowmelded

[late herald]

meld

ok thanks

forgot bout that racial 🙂

[molten hedge]

you can just blade flurry/fan of knives/etc him out if u see where he melded

[potent pivot]

Yea nah the trail ones are annoying

[jaunty terrace]

He never cast SnD before BTE

I thought we should cast SnD early at opening

[twin wren]

How the hell do we play against stupid dragons? Timestops and flying around the map!

[harsh kiln]

that's for pve. in pvp you dont need to cast SND since it's applyed automatically for you on dispatc

[proven kayak]

Mage has mass invis

[runic laurel]

nice guys we have 2 ppl answering with "mage has mass invis" when they said they fought rogue+udk+lock

[spring bough]

lol F Kasu

[noble hedge]

why does the 2nd assassination build in the pin take both wound poison from the rogue tree and amplifying poison from the assassination tree? it is a bleed build, so you can only apply one or the other... not both. do we take amplifying just to get down to avulsion, bot not use it and still run wound instead?

[rough rock]

mage has mass invis btw

[potent pivot]

You have to take amp to get the talents below it

[noble hedge]

but you dont apply amp... you still run wound?

[potent pivot]

Yes

[potent pivot]

?

Nice meme ig

[spring bough]

Did u read it lol

[potent pivot]

Ye

[spring bough]

“Developers' notes: We're making sure kasu and toni can never qualify again by listening to the cartel & buffing some mage spells” 💀

[potent pivot]

[stiff cedar]

what's crazy is, maybe i'm biased or something, i don't even think those meme buffs would do very much

ice lance is good dam cause of the shatter dmg not the actual lance itself rly

[outer sky]

Ofc that gives them a global to CC your opener

[stoic spruce]

if hes preventing a restealth hes preventing the nelfs opener

[stiff cedar]

well it was a nelf lock i think is the sitch so not much of an opener to prevent

[potent pivot]

Was another rogue and a dk in the lobby I think is what he was saying originally

[stiff cedar]

oh word

[potent pivot]

So

Supposedly imp BtE is working on tournament realm but only for 1.5 and not the proper 2.25 or 2.8

But I have still never seen it work once on live

@quick temple I think it was you that was saying it supposedly worked on live the other day?

[molten hedge]

You just pre cloak the howl or coil

[spring bough]

Feel like we don’t even need it. Sleight and some pistols just trucking lol

[severe helm]

sure but it would be nice

if imp bte worked

it would hit SO hard

like that would turn a 100k bte crit into like 200+

wouldnt even make sense honestly

[potent pivot]

I’m more so pointing it out so that no one gets surprised if it gets ran in awc

If it actually worked fully properly on live we’d def run it

Supercharged imp bte would truck

[severe helm]

yeah could easily drop a couple things for it

im already dropping acro

[gusty hedge]

same dropped acro for imp bte on crit rogue just incase it wants to randomly work. only bad thing is my damage meters fail to work on that char and combat logs are flooded

[severe helm]

damn thats annoying

[severe helm]

this what ive been running

[spring bough]

Have u tried flickering steel

[potent pivot]

FS is good if you have enough vers

[severe helm]

I havent noticed energy issues

so FS felt unecessary

and SS doesnt seem to hit that hard

[spring bough]

Sinister damage be pumping though

[severe helm]

eh for me its usually pretty low

even with lethality

I might be undervaluing summarily

and could possibly drop kir/prep for it in really long matches

[rough rock]

Whats up with people not running dispatch talents lmao

[potent pivot]

Weird stuff ngl

[severe helm]

I cant play without sleight or KiR

need one of the two

or you get lowrolls and just auto lose sometimes

[severe helm]

the things you have to drop for them are too good

again I might be misvaluing stuff

but between acro/sleight/kir/prep/and SD

you can pick 3

and I pick sleight, kir, and prep

[rough rock]

granted this was a blitz game

[severe helm]

bro the fuck'

[rough rock]

so maybe in areans i could drop acro for sleight

[severe helm]

press bte

your damage breakdown is fucked

do you not have it on your bars?

[rough rock]

loooool idk why i didnt press it that much this game

[severe helm]

....

thats very troll lol

flat % damage buff its your best button

[rough rock]

I got super unlucky with refunds

[severe helm]

doesnt matter

I think youre forgetting it

[rough rock]

usually ends up here for me unless i get super lucky

[molten hedge]

What you meant to say was “if it actually worked fully properly on live we’d def be getting emergency nerfs tomm”

[severe helm]

it would hit too hard

bte already hits hard

and the crit damage bonus doesnt work

if it did work

it would literally do 50% of someones hp

[rough rock]

rewatched my game and yeah im taking gd off the tracker im focusing way to much on only doing bte unless i have it

[severe helm]

OOH

yeah bro

thats not lit lol

you can press bte without GD up

and still have bte again for when its up

theres no reason to delay bte

ever

[rough rock]

think we talked about this yesterday too lmao

[severe helm]

ye lol

[rough rock]

ill try it out and see how it does, i do think acro is better for blitz but imma try a game with sleight instead

10% dispatch feels too good but maybe its not enough and im coping

[severe helm]

dispatch damage is prob better than acro for blitz

[potent pivot]

ADR

[severe helm]

only with SC yeah

[potent pivot]

Ye

[severe helm]

but honestly without crit dam bonus

I ignore that rule

dont think its worth

[potent pivot]

Ye

Agreed

[potent pivot]

I still do it if it’s like

1-2 finishers from adr coming off cd sometimes

[rough rock]

this buff is perm for whatever reason

in open world lmao

[potent pivot]

Charged BtE with good zero in stacks still hits decently hard

Just depends on the situation tbh

[spring bough]

why am i in a solo shuffle

with 3 outlaw rogues

and a frost mage....

[potent pivot]

I’ll see you guys on my assa rogue next week

[gleaming sentinel]

lmao

[stoic spruce]

@rough rock it's good btw

[dark kernel]

Are we back?

Guess I'll reroll and mash buttons

[potent pivot]

When were we gone

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-batman-batman-gif-23780286

[spring bough]

may have played charger and imp bte here

next blitz.... 3 rogues vs 2 rogues

[rough rock]

meanwhile....

[gleaming sentinel]

ngl i cant stand it. LOL

[stoic spruce]

Rune

Guess what level I got to in 3ish hours

[spring bough]

how do u have that many games

[rough rock]

because i hate myself

[rough rock]

50

[spring bough]

ripping it tonight

idk why but enemy disc and shadow priest sat farm and me and preso just laid into them and took it everytime

[rough rock]

im ngl im so done with this game mode

[stoic spruce]

91

[spring bough]

FOTM outlaws need to find the door

[gleaming sentinel]

boosted a devourer, gonna fotm

[rough rock]

another loss

okay shuffle only time

[spring bough]

It’s fun as hell. No star build pumps so much

Star does too

[rough rock]

W

[spring bough]

Oh shit Pika is live

Wonder if he outlawing tonight

[stiff cedar]

have only ever played melee build is it worth also trying star or nah

[spring bough]

star is fun but if u do surrender to the void u can drop star

demon form never goes away and once u get to it just spam devour/cull and it deletes

and u take the haste + 2 charge reap talent and just slam people with instant devour casts

[stiff cedar]

that sounds dope

have only ever played this basically. flex point on reverse/detain/armor

haven't tried surrender to the void

do you have an import or armory by chance or should i go to murlok and find top star user

[spring bough]

CgcBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA2MmZmxMzMzYmBAAAAAAgxsNYGAAAAAAAAmxMMjZmZmZmZMzsYGjFtswMzMzWbzMzAYGDABmhhhPA

surrender to the void, armor of souls, beckon. just spam reaps into consume/devour for the insta cast and GG win

[stiff cedar]

my goat

[potent pivot]

No star feels way better

[stiff cedar]

can i drop armor of souls for glimpse

[potent pivot]

It’s actually a really fun build ngl

[stiff cedar]

or, which of those 3 do i drop for glimpse and i can only assume it's armor

[stoic spruce]

Zzz

[stiff cedar]

yyy

[spring bough]

igg yeah

[stiff cedar]

is that soul fragment proc really that big of a difference

cause into rog as far as defensive choice goes i'd rather have glimspe than the 100% armor

[spring bough]

i believe so

Pika queuing as outlaw

[gusty hedge]

in full pve gear

dev pres looks like hell to face

[hybrid sapphire]

whats the BM big CD i have to watch out for?

[molten hedge]

Just DMd you a 5 min clip of whaazz breaking it down

[hybrid sapphire]

huh... i didnt get anything

got it ty

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-smirk-gif-1501673502766173669

[grave basin]

=.....................= this guy

[stiff cedar]

mvq has always been a douche

[potent pivot]

I was expecting a lot worse when I saw this

[stiff cedar]

also agree that was p mild

[molten hedge]

yea but he is a douche nonetheless

[muted spire]

Guys, dh player here trying to learn the new DR. So every rogues spec now have 12 sec cd cheap shot, 30 sec kidney shot, and the stun DR is 16 sec, am I correct?

[rough rock]

Yes, although only sub can actually do cheaps every shadow dance, the other rogue specs either need to get stealth mid match (rare) or waste a vanish for it

[stiff cedar]

sub gets a 2nd cheap shot but otherwise yeah that's right

[rough rock]

this guy is such a loser man

between him and kasu idk whos worse

[muted spire]

Thanks guys

[grave basin]

there;s a reason why petkick and him get along so well

[stiff cedar]

I'm ngl it's definitely kasu lately lmao

[grim sequoia]

guys im an aff lock main now

this game had all 3 lock specs lmao

clearly i was the best lock spec

aff lock + ass rogue is so good

[molten hedge]

Send pic of that mount u were on

the void looking one

[gusty hedge]

no mount ?!

[rough rock]

been wanting to level mine for blitz

[grim sequoia]

its really fun

[outer sky]

Alright I found one major struggle with outlaw in Blitz

You cant spin nodes for shit

If you dont have flurry up its so bad

Just tab targeting pistol shots

[frail ivy]

Which is the better spec for pvp rn? Pretty new to the game and want to try pvp on rogue

[rough rock]

Sub is dumb easy

[outer sky]

Sub and outlaw are both S tier

[frail ivy]

Been playing sub and sin in keys but want to try PvP now as pve is getting boring

[outer sky]

Just decide if you want to be a ninja or a pirate cosplaying as a cowboy

[frail ivy]

Aight im gonna give sub a go then ty

Ninja for sure 🤣

[dark moon]

He is so mad his cheating addon doesn't help him win

[outer sky]

https://tenor.com/view/youknow-you-gif-19056787

[stoic spruce]

I mean

If my cheating addon didn't help me cheat I'd be mad too

[outer sky]

It is helping him cheat. It just isnt helping him win.

[stoic spruce]

Cheating and not winning should get you banned

And not because you were cheating in the first place

But because you're that bad

[outer sky]

Yeah its basically "if youre so bad you cant even win by cheating then you shouldn't be competing to begin with"

[dark moon]

I mean he could prolly, but he needs to not be OTP

Cause dh is not awc material when rogue is meta

Dying in a cheapshot is so tasty

[severe helm]

Outlaw is so easy to cap on

It like auto loses the base vs a sub rogue

[outer sky]

Yeah im coming to that realization quickly lol

[grave basin]

New rog dev when??

Only way for mvq to win awc is to play with rog and mage and he's sitting on the bench

[outer sky]

Jokes on him

Next patch notes:

Hunter: Freeze Trap CD increased to 1m and moved to a choice node with Binding Shot"

[wanton breach]

we get the unpaid intern every 9 months and we better be happy that we get anythign at all

don't be greedy 💯 🔥 ☝️

[outer sky]

We dont even get that. We get whoever showed up to work drunk that day

[harsh kiln]

what'd i miss, whos cheating with what?

[potent pivot]

this is the only real criticism i've seen in a week

[stoic spruce]

Kinda

Idk

Feels like a snowball that a child is forming to roll down a hill

Blizzard being the child and the choices being the snowball

[pastel burrow]

I think we all knew the moment they added housing finally, this would be coming next

They already charge too much for cosmetic tmog

[stoic spruce]

We knew this would be coming yes, but not the state of the game and having the nerve to release this while everything is aflame

[potent pivot]

It’s just too much man idk

[pastel burrow]

This costing as much as an expansion is crazy

[potent pivot]

Like quantity and cost are both way too high

They’ve been spamming mtx lately

[pastel burrow]

It's like the brutosaur in tww

Game was a broken mess around it's release

But you log in and see conga lines of that damn mount

[potent pivot]

The Bruto was disgusting but I can at least understand if it was “too cheap” bfa Bruto players would whine endlessly

[pastel burrow]

Paypigs suck

[stoic spruce]

Idk

I feel this is a catalyst for a not so bright future,

[potent pivot]

Ye it’s kinda crazy how many people eat this stuff up

[stoic spruce]

Bruto was bad yeah

[pastel burrow]

I agree but it's like

I'm not surprised I'm just disgusted

Housing is like one of my fav additions to the game, the system is rly well made, and it's chill to work on while waiting in PvP queues

[stoic spruce]

There's a lot more drama going on with wow now than just a buggy game and expensive decor

[gleaming sentinel]

Can’t be mad at the dog for licking peanut butter off someone balls bro

[pastel burrow]

And to see how quick they jumped on milking it is sad

[stoic spruce]

The addon thing, classes way too pruned, there's a lot of people mad these days.

[potent pivot]

I’ve never even gone to my housing plot or whatever

[stoic spruce]

Way too much going on at once

[potent pivot]

I just right click all the new trash that drops into the void i guess

[pastel burrow]

It's alright guys I'm sure this is all just a lot of teething issues and foundation setting, the last titan will rock

[potent pivot]

I’ve seen some cool jump puzzles at least

In videos or something

Those look alright

But idk game just feels like it’s in a rough state to be spamming mtx every couple weeks

[stoic spruce]

Bugs, add-ons, class design, pvp, etc

[potent pivot]

i think even awc has been getting like half or less than half the viewership it got in DF/TWW

[stoic spruce]

No one wants to watch another rogue filled awc

[potent pivot]

it would actually get similar numbers to MDI/TGP broadcasts back then

10-15k viewers etc

[stoic spruce]

What was it this time

[potent pivot]

lately i think its been like 5-7k

[stoic spruce]

Wow

[potent pivot]

early cups aren't as popular i guess, but it still feels really low

[stoic spruce]

You know what trickz?

Imma be real with you

Idek what I want out of WoW anymore

[potent pivot]

the problem is that the potential is there, but in most people's opinion they just keep squandering it

RWF averaged like 30-40k viewers per stream

so like 100-120k across everyone

peaked to like 200k around the end

[potent pivot]

idk i've felt that way for a long time now i think

thats why i just don't play when it gets boring at the end of expacs

[gleaming sentinel]

Real

[stoic spruce]

In tww I had an ideal direction but now all I can think about is how they screwed everything up

[grave basin]

No one wants to watch rmp vs rmp for 20 rounds

[gleaming sentinel]

Play in your dollhouse, farm your tier 2.

[grave basin]

If we actually had good comp variety it wouldnt be so bad

[potent pivot]

start season -> get rewards -> q for fun to pass time

wait for next season -> repeat

[grave basin]

The last time i felt compelled to watch was sv dh in tww and f tier playing ww enhance

[gleaming sentinel]

PvP being easier to play at the end of the season also kinda feels bad as a pvper so I just do achievements and pve

[stoic spruce]

I genuinely think the cosmetic inflation over the years is part of the problem

[gleaming sentinel]

But dealing with LFG is just not my jam for m+

[stoic spruce]

Not the but part

[potent pivot]

i played a lot tww s1

[grave basin]

Ye every patch has 50 recoloured mounts

[potent pivot]

played every melee to at least get the tmog

except like ww

[grave basin]

Awc hasnt been popular since like mlg days

When there was actual irl drama

Like echo vs liquid

In rwf

[potent pivot]

i'm curious to see how blizzcon goes

if it will renew some hype

[gleaming sentinel]

Removing solo shuffle toy reward bummed me out. That’s my favorite endgame LOL

[grave basin]

Now a days who gives a fuck what lavalavalava tony does

[stoic spruce]

I don't think the game has any good friction at all tbh

[grave basin]

Good sports needs a big man to cheer for and an underdog

[gleaming sentinel]

I really think the pruning and addon change was a disaster

[stoic spruce]

I genuinely wouldn't mind the pruning had they pruned like they usually do and remove a ton of CC and Utility from the game

And leave room for future expacs to add on to the class

[gleaming sentinel]

Like playing devourer a little last night… it’s got some cool big booms but it’s so repetitive

[stoic spruce]

My biggest regret this expac so far is trying that Legion private server

I uninstalled my SP games and am only playing that and retail

[quick temple]

when do they ever prune right tho? I remember losing Tremor totem as a shaman in legion and they decided wound poison wasnt outlaw thematic so no MS lol

[stoic spruce]

Outlaw had bribe and parley

You know who didn't?

Sub and assa

The legion pruning did a lot of good

Obv it doesn't feel good to lose stuff and it never will

But it always ended up being for the best

[gleaming sentinel]

Ready for an 8% PvP dmg nerf Monday?

[quick temple]

not disagreeing

[stoic spruce]

Ye

[quick temple]

but they just prune the wrong stuff a lot

[stoic spruce]

Yeah they never did an overwhelmingly good job at pruning

[quick temple]

and then randomly give locks more cc

luckily locks arent busted

[stoic spruce]

But this time CC and Utility absolutely should've been on the chopping block

It's bad when ROGUE with it's toolkit needed an AoE blind

[quick temple]

thats just M+ stuff tho

M+ is reason for a lot of dumb pvp changes in the first place

everyone having baked in aoe in there ST rotation

or the overall pve tempo of arena in general

[stoic spruce]

In the context of utility it matters

[quick temple]

not sure how it relates to arena tho aoe blind

[stoic spruce]

Because a classes kit is used in all content.

Or should be

[quick temple]

again relevance? idk how rogue needing aoe cc for mobs has to do with the topic of utility pruned from arena

[stoic spruce]

Talking specifically about pvp would have a totally different design philosophy if it were the only type of content in the game

[stoic spruce]

Utility pruned from the GAME

PvP, M+, and raid

[quick temple]

still dont get the point

it'd be fine if rogue didnt have an instant aoe cc, they just homogenize for M+

[stoic spruce]

If it werent an AoE CC meta sure

But it hasn't been since SL

[quick temple]

when i say they prune the wrong stuff i mean like Tremor totem or an MS from a rogue spec

stuff thats integral or been in the game from the jump

like they dont play the game themselves

[stoic spruce]

I still don't think Outlaw should've gotten poisons back nor do I think sub and assa should've gotten disarm

Unholy and blood shouldnt have AoE blind

[quick temple]

sure call it wound powder, but pruning MS from a rogue for just flavor is short sighted

especially the sustained phys spec

[stoic spruce]

No, not wound powder or whatever

No MS at all

Homogenization is literally the problem

[quick temple]

i just disagree, when sub has half the TTK of outlaw

how does that make sense

[stoic spruce]

That's always been the case, idk why you bring that up

[quick temple]

be like taking totems away from ele and saying thats...homogenization?

[stoic spruce]

If outlaw kills faster than sub someone's exploiting

[quick temple]

huh

dude

why would the burst spec that can kill you in 3 globals

have heal denial over the sustained dam spec

the spec with multiple ccs and doesnt have to commit to brawling

has more merit for MS?

[stoic spruce]

Because it kills in goes where as outlaw doesn't and has a more practical use case with disarm

[quick temple]

ooook

[stoic spruce]

Had they be separate

[stoic spruce]

I want to know how you came to the conclusion of me saying this meant "totems from ele meant homogenization"

[quick temple]

because you're randomly removing heal reduction from a spec for the sake of novelty or diversity

[stoic spruce]

No I'm not lol

You're hearing what I'm not saying

Everyone has everything

[quick temple]

it was an example

an analogy taking MS from one rogue spec for the sake of flavor

is like taking totems away from a shaman spec

[stoic spruce]

I'll actually go a step further

[gleaming sentinel]

What’s the opposite of cooking?

That’s what you guys are doing

[stoic spruce]

Only arms and assa should have MS and Unholy heal absorb

That's it

[quick temple]

Sure that's an angle

[stoic spruce]

You can't give everyone everything and think that's okay lol

[quick temple]

but saying sub warrants it over outlaw i'm not seeing that angle

[stoic spruce]

Right now is a prime example of why

[stoic spruce]

There's no cooking or anything like that

[quick temple]

I mean tools should be spread around for comp diversity or you have to double down and give out more unique toolsets

or you have stuff like devourer dh that fundamentally brings nothing

[stoic spruce]

It's a genuine problem with the game

[quick temple]

so it has to do 400k in .5

[stoic spruce]

That they didn't fix for some reason

[quick temple]

i'd give a hotter take and say dh/ww should of never been added

or at least 1 shouldnt

[stoic spruce]

I wholeheartedly agree

[quick temple]

we essentially have 4-5 of the same specs

[stoic spruce]

Dh/Monk tbh

MW has been nothing but trouble

[quick temple]

havoc/ww/outlaw/fury the same archetypes

havoc/ww honestly the same class

then evoker doesnt even belong in wow

[runic laurel]

Someone will have to use industrial cleaner on the burnt pan once you guys are done cooking

[stoic spruce]

There's no cooking

That's like saying the CC dr being a problem is cooking

It's not a cook, it's just a fact lol

[runic laurel]

Yeah man all your opinions are facts

Legendary

[stoic spruce]

???

They're not opinions

I'm in fuckin lala land or something lmao

[runic laurel]

“Only arms and assa should have MS and Unholy heal absorb” that looks like an opinion to me idk

[potent pivot]

rogue, feral, ww, dh, dk

i'd even go as far as to say warrior

[stoic spruce]

Out of context, how convenient

[spring bough]

Why yall so active this early 😭

[stoic spruce]

Warrior, rogue, ww

[potent pivot]

almost everything in the game these days is just spam build->spend though really

[quick temple]

pop cd lets you spend spend spend

[potent pivot]

not a lot of opportunity for emergent gameplay like pooling up a resource/stacks

[stoic spruce]

Mad lol

[potent pivot]

just 1000 piss buff/debuff modifiers that don't effect rotation at all

[spring bough]

I’m ready to avoid outlaw nerfs later

Can’t wait gonna pop some champagne when the notes are clear

[potent pivot]

awc cup 3 is tonight/this weekend right?

[stoic spruce]

That'd be crazy ngl

[potent pivot]

we might not see much tuning this week but idk

[stoic spruce]

I'm glad trickz came () my blood pressure was rising at the thought lol

Way to divert

Why does

EVERY FUCKING COMP I COME ACROSS

HAVE DISARMS AND MS

And the CC....

God help us

I didn't want to play this shitty game anyway

Every class is just a different shade of bullshit

@spring bough I'm not even playing the game, I'm at work rn and I'm pissed thinking about it lmaoo

[spring bough]

Just take a deep breath and outlaw will be okay

[potent pivot]

[gleaming sentinel]

Sunk cost fallacy got us hooked

[potent pivot]

So uhh

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say they likely won’t do much tuning mid cup

But then we have over a month before regionals

[stoic spruce]

Mad at you and don't know why

[potent pivot]

So I bet next week will be a massive tuning if they’re gonna do any

Wait nvm I’m fried

They’d announce it today anyway for next reset

Ye we’re fucked boys gg

[gleaming sentinel]

[potent pivot]

@spring bough it’s over

Grind this weekend while you can

[spring bough]

It’s all going to be okay

[stoic spruce]

On my work week too

[gleaming sentinel]

You ain’t Qing anyway let’s be real

[stoic spruce]

Okay well ur big

[gleaming sentinel]

[stoic spruce]

I actually would btw

Poopyhead

Unfortunately God only gave me 2 arms and a head

So I can only do one thing at a time

And I blame YOU

Tech problems 17 minutes before quiting time

[gleaming sentinel]

Level alt or push rating

[stoic spruce]

Push

Push push push

[stoic spruce]

PUUUUUSH

[dark kernel]

I'm pushing right now

[gusty hedge]

i can feel 2.1 is gonna be over 100 games this season. Dreading the que & 3/3 2/4 hopping from rogue to rogue

[main agate]

Is rotation different in pvp than the pve rotation?

[gleaming sentinel]

i am comically bad at using vengeful retreat

[potent pivot]

Generally speaking things are very similar. Can depend on spec, but there are some tweaks we do in pvp

[crystal wagon]

Can you guys help me decide, I'm struggling between Ret and Rogue. I have way more experience on ret but I wanna contribute more to winning BGB and was debating picking up rogue. Any advice or tips?

[molten hedge]

If you search “ret” in here, I think you’ll see what the boys think about the pink tunas

[spring bough]

I’d love to see @stoic spruce post some outlaw shuffle clips

Or blitz

Or 3s

[spring bough]

Why speak that word when it summons you know who 😂

[gleaming sentinel]

I just broke 2k, maybe a little 2100 push before nerf

[spring bough]

No nerfs 🙏

Gonna say so many prayers and do a ritual before notes post later

[stoic spruce]

2s, take it or leave it

I played 3 shuffles and said no mas

It's a comically evil mode

I'd have to edit it too because I don't want my name out here

[gleaming sentinel]

Shame me all you want

[stoic spruce]

NOT ME

im sensitive

[gleaming sentinel]

Shuffle does give me anxiety sometimes tho

[stoic spruce]

everytime for me

hands sweat

I can feel my heart in my throat lol

[harsh kiln]

you think they'll give outlaw a flat dmg nerf or some tuning to trickster?

[stoic spruce]

both I bet

[harsh kiln]

theyll prob remove a stack or two from cloud cover

making the last buff completely obsolete

[gleaming sentinel]

https://wowarenalogs.com/stats?tab=spec-stats&bracket=Rated Solo Shuffle&sortKey=winRate&minRating=0&maxRating=4999&trendChartSpecs=&trendChartStat=representation

is this current? I can’t tell on mobile

If so outlaw with a low win %

[gusty hedge]

Cloud cover slaps for sub and law prolly nerf on top of an aura nerf
they should buff fate slightly

[grim sequoia]

people getting called "whales" for spending $75 on a game theyve been playing for 10+ years is hilarious

i got...briefly addicted to some mobile game where people would spend $10k+

[stoic spruce]

@gusty hedge can you help me with my build?

[grim sequoia]

if blizz needs to do paid housing shit that literally doesnt affect the game, have at it, keep the investors happy

[stoic spruce]

idk I think Quick Draw is good until I get more haste then im thinking of swapping to GS

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-have-what-it-takes-eric-cartman-south-park-s14e8-poor-and-stupid-gif-22866010

[stoic spruce]

what do you think

[potent pivot]

in the context of wow, thats a whale thing, yes

context of other games is different

[frail ivy]

Is there any good PvP guides for sub ? Brand new to pvp and wow in general tbh

[potent pivot]

you can learn the basics of how to do damage from the wowhead sub guide

if you're new to the game you've got a lot to take in but i would start with that

[frail ivy]

Been doing keys on sub up to +13’s so know the basic rotation but want to know how talents/combos differ for pvp

[potent pivot]

ah ok

there's talents in the pins, we only really play the trickster build

there's not much difference from the pve rotation, you just replace strikes with cheap shots as applicable

try not to gap your stuns on your burst window

etc

[frail ivy]

And guessing we never use storm and black powder ?

[potent pivot]

we do use storm sometimes

mainly outside of dance to build some combo points/spread poisons

wound/crippling are both rly strong in pvp

powder isn't really used in arena

you can use it like

in blitz/world pvp if another rogue vanishes or something, to get break their stealth

very niche usage

[gusty hedge]

just yeeted this war with electrick shock in voidstorm long fall but servers went down wonder if he'll get the d/c loop or be dead when servers come back up

[gusty hedge]

not taking Killing spree (pvp in mind)
vigor alacrity MFD cp filled, finishers pumpin
QD AS/GH DS IS/EL POTW KS MFD/DFA

Servers back up

[stoic spruce]

I aints gots the haste for killing spree

[molten hedge]

I did some hpri shuffles ln and now it all makes sense

As to why healers don’t wanna heal these dogshit players 🤣

I have 2 warriors on nokhudon. Gates open. They both run up the ramp. One leaps left attacking the devoker. One leaps right attacking the destro. I grip both back, and both charge back splitting the difference and die

[dark moon]

I love the ending

[stoic spruce]

ah fuck I forgot about that part 💀

my wowhead channel in my guild disc and I thought it was a tuning post

[gleaming sentinel]

The popo

[stoic spruce]

Ironic considering im outlaw

Popo was taken

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/skylermclain-skyler-mclain-mclain-popo-dance-dragon-ball-gif-2482680463420171132

cant even think of poop! popo always reminds me of Mr Popo

[stoic spruce]

he stole my name

dude

I cant escape the sub overlords even off retail

wtf

[gusty hedge]

wtf is right

[stoic spruce]

the absolute nerve

[compact moat]

I would love this game if the solo shuffle queue is good lol

[stoic spruce]

I'd love it if it were just one match

6 matches takes foreverrrrr

[molten hedge]

Queues have been 5-20 mins max that’s rly good compared to previous seasons

I’ve sat many 40+ min queues. Not one this ssn

[compact moat]

That's still long lol

[compact moat]

Nah I like the 6 matches

[stoic spruce]

BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES

Just slows it down

its time...

@spring bough ohh yeah baby

make sure yall knock before walking into my room

I wont be responsible for what you see

[spring bough]

You should like logon to retail

And play some rated

[stoic spruce]

no :)

I should though

I will after I get to a good stopping point

however retail doesnt have dreadblades

and ive waited years

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[stoic spruce]

yerp

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-got-em-gotcha-say-no-more-car-smirk-gif-9078554153387260973

[stoic spruce]

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

[stoic spruce]

I remember what none of these do

oh yeah this was when outlaw had all the coolest stuff under the sun

how could I forget

oh yeah this was worth

okay retail now

[stoic spruce]

@spring bough happy?

[stoic spruce]

what a chad

[spring bough]

With what

[stoic spruce]

logging on to retail

logging off if no healer friends are on because im NOT doing shuffle

wow update

damn theyre not online

we couldve done something :/

[gusty hedge]

if u collect mounts get this one while it's in rotation this week

[stoic spruce]

Ooooooo

Okay

[molten hedge]

That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it. But I’m fine with it

[stoic spruce]

Show Invincible

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-fuck-you-middle-finger-middle-finger-gif-15294280

[stoic spruce]

C:

Good thing you don't have a dk

That'd be embarrassing being a dk and not having it

It's weird playing the same MMOs at the same time but they feel totally different

[stoic spruce]

Why would you out yourself like that

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/yujiro-hanma-gif-24253707

[stoic spruce]

Show me Lucid Nightmare

[gusty hedge]

dnt think i have that, i have all the recolors

[stoic spruce]

Everyone has all the recolors

Noob

[gusty hedge]

[stoic spruce]

I jest

I have one recolor

You have the vicious spider?

[stoic spruce]

Yeahhhh

Is that the alliance version

Never seen it

[gusty hedge]

yeah, <--- human

[stoic spruce]

It's one of my favorite ground mounts

[gusty hedge]

!

[stoic spruce]

And Bruce from BFA brawlers guild

[gusty hedge]

bruce?!

[stoic spruce]

Ooo

[stoic spruce]

Yeah!

2nd favorite ground mount

Actually a tie

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/rizz-face-rizz-looking-look-cat-cat-look-gif-9087142249007966948

[stoic spruce]

When did you become cool?

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-outkast-gif-4685458

[stoic spruce]

You have Bruce?

My favorite ground mount is the Venomhide Ravasaur

From Un'goro Crater

[gusty hedge]

never finished the quest

[stoic spruce]

Oof

My condolences

[gusty hedge]

i remember farming the dailies for this mount for my cousin

[stoic spruce]

20 days of quests

Felt like it never ended

[gusty hedge]

got bro every pet and every mount + world achievements all for him to get banned

[stoic spruce]

Dude

At some point an account reaches a limit where you have to be on your best behavior

[grave basin]

yo these new top hats look kewl

[stoic spruce]

Muh lady

[gusty hedge]

yeap!
this is why im on my 2nd account
last suspension on main account was 3 months

[grave basin]

tips fedora

[stoic spruce]

Dude idk what I'd do if I got suspended for that long

Probably cry

[gusty hedge]

make another account like i did cuz iwas feining for outlaw pvp

[stoic spruce]

I could never. My mounts and stuff go where I go

I have to keep my account clean for Bruce

[gusty hedge]

under same bnet ofc tho

u get like 8 max

but if perma banned for some dumbshit they nuke all accounts like tos breaking

like cheating etc

[stoic spruce]

That's u

Next week

Watch

[gusty hedge]

lmaoo

i got false perma banned last year same with ivanrah after doing shuffles the same day/night
mf nuked all my accounts for like 15 mins

[stoic spruce]

Were you scared

[gusty hedge]

hell yeah i was

heart sank

[stoic spruce]

[gusty hedge]

all the years played

[stoic spruce]

Aw poor thing

[gusty hedge]

if they didnt fix their error i wouldve quit completely

[stoic spruce]

As much as I flame wow and the devs

One thing I take pride in is my clean record

[gusty hedge]

👀

[stoic spruce]

Other than the 24 hour chat ban for calling a boss last expansion a void monkey in instance chat

Ecodome

Other than that I'm cleeeeaaan

I have more infractions here than WoW

Arranoth is typing, I bet it's an assa question

[crystal wagon]

Actually trying to pick a new main, pink tuna, feral or rogue. But I am afraid of answers also

[stoic spruce]

That's very real of you

[crystal wagon]

Is assa the best pve dps tho?

[spring bough]

Outlaw

[gusty hedge]

thats crazy! i dont even get chat banned or muted! happend one time after that they just suspend my account from play lol

most of my suspensions are from abussive chat so they say, but never show me what i said to get suspended One time a gm said yeah no we arent going to overturn this one . i just laughed cuz i raged at some people in open world about flying to bladestorm so i can kill them and have them walk back to their body etc ontop of a few insults ( that was prolly grranted) they watched me 1v4 and sat there

ive gotten banned for saying teh instead of the and ai or gm assumed it was a slurr.... ontop of emoting too much which was another bann. all under abussive chat,
now i try to stay away from chat and emote little as possible

[crystal wagon]

I just don't know how to rogue yet.

[stoic spruce]

I think it's sub/outlaw atm

Muted, Not chat banned.

[spring bough]

Is this AI??

[gusty hedge]

[gusty hedge]

i just know my next suspension will be perma on og account or a year lol

so i try to stay off chat

[stoic spruce]

We all get carried away. I'm super toxic when people talk smack and I've dodged mutes and bans since forever.

Which is wild how void monkey is what did me in

[spring bough]

It’s perma after the month suspension

[stoic spruce]

After all those rets...

[crystal wagon]

I guess how do you guys feel about your ability to push a team to a win in BGB? I always see that enemy rogues help their team win, mine teams rogues don't know how to stealth

[gusty hedge]

yeah that one is wild ngl

[gusty hedge]

i've gotta 2, 3 month suspensions , last one was right after i bought 6 month wow time lol like a day after

[spring bough]

Guess they hate me. I got like 1 week then 2 then 3 then a month then it was perma

[crystal wagon]

I've been playing since vanilla and I camped people for whole evenings and never once been banned

[spring bough]

Yeah but did u talk mad shit while doing it

[gusty hedge]

i just have a feeling the next is gonna be perm so ii just full send my 2nd account and xfered over a few chars

[stoic spruce]

Why are they called bad words if I feel good saying them to people?

[gusty hedge]

i dnt get why u can get suspend for sayin the F word or B but they have mature language filter if needed

[crystal wagon]

Probably didn't talk enough mad shit I guess

[gusty hedge]

now all u need is enough people to report u for anything and AI will handle the rest

[stoic spruce]

This question is honestly industry wide

[crystal wagon]

The ol bear t-bag went a long way back in the day though

[gleaming sentinel]

Banger

[crystal wagon]

Got a lot of mileage out of feral world pvp in BC and Wrath

[gleaming sentinel]

Rogue players try not to be toxic challenge: impossible

[crystal wagon]

Maybe I'll go sub and start unstealthing near people and just dropping repair bots or feasts

[spring bough]

It’s hard out here man