Since Forced Induction only applies during AR uptime, I thought CB would be better for PvP. But I guess FI is still the way to go even in PvP. Thanks for the insight!
#pvp
worn geyser
river pollen
Forever cursed still no sliver
potent pivot
Since Forced Induction only applies during AR uptime, I thought CB would be bett...
Also double vanish is still good for certain situations, like if you’re facing a sub rogue
Anything you feel you really need the extra cheap shot for
worn geyser
Also double vanish is still good for certain situations, like if you’re facing a...
ty! Ill try double vanish vs sub rogue
outer sky
@potent pivot I'm 40% of the way through level 89 on my second toon getting boosted and blizzard just nerfed the spot
potent pivot
LOL NO WAY
outer sky
yep
outer sky
the mobs just randomly started giving 8xp
potent pivot
I think that spot existed for 2 days on launch
I saw a tweet about those same mobs
But they got hotfixed in a day
So when blizz launched the .5 patch
They likely didn’t have that hot fox merged onto the PTR build
sharp sierra
Might have - but no one really notice unless someone makes in depth test. Just like with the HM Tauren.
outer sky
Or still crashy
still crashy
outer sky
That fuckin sucks tho
Shadowguard has the good leveling rotation now
potent pivot
Shadowguard has the good leveling rotation now
Yeah ik but the questing route is even faster
They’re both just boring
molten hedge
ive noticed with the slivers theyre not always in the reward icon in pvp tab
like i got 4 it disappeared then i played 2 shuffs today it was gone
now its back
molten hedge
stuck at 4
spring bough
ive noticed with the slivers theyre not always in the reward icon in pvp tab
just had it showing on my shuffle... won the lobby didnt get one LOL
molten hedge
just had it showing on my shuffle... won the lobby didnt get one LOL
yea i didnt mean seeing it meant you get one just teh chance to get one but trickz says its just a visual bug so
wait actually while i was waiting that q
it went away
lmao
now im in shuff and its there haha
rough rock
<@629463378250956810> I'm 40% of the way through level 89 on my second toon gett...
should only need 3 delve turn ins
hell probably just 2
God damn having to do a macro every bg is annoying
why is it that i can just make a macro but having a addon do it for me is so wrong
spring bough
@gusty hedge i just need to run my delves for the week then craftin some myth gear GG
potent pivot
God damn having to do a macro every bg is annoying
What exactly is the macro
Surely you don’t have to edit 8 different target macros with everyone’s usernames lol
river pollen
Shouldve have gone the crafted wep route lol, gonna be a pain to refarm
Unless they make the drop rate higher eventually
potent pivot
Well if you just keep playing
You’ll end up with quite an excess
As long as there isn’t a 20 sliver cap 💀
river pollen
Gonna let that 2% extra mastery from being human carry me then 😅
rough rock
What exactly is the macro
/tar name
river pollen
Ngl im having fun with shuffle
rough rock
i just do it on people i know are gonna fc and rogues
lime oar
are slivers in our bags or in currency tab
river pollen
I think bag
Its a purple diamond looking thing
I feel like blitz gets more fun at higher rating
When ppl know what theyre doing
outer sky
game is trolling me. First Blizz nerfs the leveling spot during my boost and now I die with 9xp to go till 90
spring bough
<@913956782961995796> dodge this game
GGs
My whole team fighting about spinning flags 😂
spring bough
Me n the other rogue were like .1 off mines cap but DK got to him and it was over from there lol
rough rock
Yeah once i saw double rogue i had a feeling you two would go there and told them LH would be pointless xD
your mage was also special
not once did he wait for you either of you
just kept trying to take it solo lol
spring bough
Lock was talking trash to the ret about his dmg lol
rough rock
Another one LOL
within 2 minutes with that comp is fucking nuts
outer sky
within 2 minutes with that comp is fucking nuts
its because theyre bad
theyre riding their broken af specs
hotfixed
molten hedge
good
wicked shell
Are we slapping outlaw now over sub in blitz?
spring bough
LETS GO
gleaming sentinel
Are we slapping outlaw now over sub in blitz?
sub still sick
spring bough
Has anyone got an 11th sliver this week? I haven’t got any since I upgraded my 2nd item
molten hedge
but no mention of mm damage lol
potent pivot
Are we slapping outlaw now over sub in blitz?
No lol
outer sky
but no mention of mm damage lol
Thats tuning not a hotfix
potent pivot
but no mention of mm damage lol
There’s always hope we get a post tmrw is Friday
We also have to hope we’re not on it tho
molten hedge
ill never understand why they have to wait until friday lol
potent pivot
potent pivot
ill never understand why they have to wait until friday lol
They don’t always do Friday
outer sky
@potent pivot Is it confirmed I wont lose anything by spending Voidslivers on upgrading my conq weapon even if I eventually want to craft weapons?
potent pivot
It’s just the most common
potent pivot
<@629463378250956810> Is it confirmed I wont lose anything by spending Voidslive...
There’s no way to confirm it 100% but I’m orettt positive you’ll be fine man
Doesn’t seem to be a limit
Trimaz already upgraded 3 items
outer sky
ok cool
spring bough
I’m gonna use this monk void set when I get it unlocked lol
Things looking pretty cool
spring bough
Damn one more to go 😂
potent pivot
Lmaoooo
spring bough
So far gone 3-3 every shuffle lobby tonight…. But somehow up 20 rating lol
ocean thunder
So far gone 3-3 every shuffle lobby tonight…. But somehow up 20 rating lol
This is the standard rating inflation mechanic for shuffle. Each week they want you to climb like 20-30 rating so you will get that if you go even
balmy wyvern
how many blinks do mages have now? I bait a blink then kidney and he blinks again 2 more times
sharp sierra
how many blinks do mages have now? I bait a blink then kidney and he blinks agai...
Sounds like he shimmered two times and then displacement (I am not sure it's called displacement). That would be my guess at least. Might also just be blink stun, since displacement refunds a blink charge. So blink, displace, blink.
rough rock
fuck this im going back verse
balmy wyvern
i got away without dying, but fuck did it tilt me
balmy wyvern
Sounds like he shimmered two times and then displacement (I am not sure it's cal...
sounds like bs to me lmao
sharp sierra
sounds like bs to me lmao
Seeing that on your screen can certainly be some bullshit yea 🤣
gleaming sentinel
i miss my verse already
yea 4pce feels like a mistake
molten hedge
what are u dropping for that? seems sus
potent pivot
fuck this im going back verse
rough rock
what are u dropping for that? seems sus
sc
rough rock
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
grave basin
is transmog just borked
i select a mog from the list
and it applies any random mog
potent pivot
is transmog just borked
It’s been finicky yeah
Even before the patch it was finicky
And if you had bad graphics settings it would actually ruin your game when you opened the collections tab
potent pivot
At least they said something man
The quality lately has been inexcusable
and they've just been mostly radio silent
grave basin
The same corporate slop as usual
Pepperridge farms remembers korthia patch
And they basically said the same thing
Nothings changed and will change
hybrid sapphire
dude i cant play sub for shit and its boring as hell
potent pivot
Nothings changed and will change
yeah they'll just keep using mtx to pad the lowering sub count
sucks that too many people are too addicted to speak with their wallets
hybrid sapphire
the blizzard of many years ago woulda credited everyone like 3 days game time or something
grave basin
the blizzard of many many years ago wouldnt release anything unless it's ready
they were known for their polish even if it took them ages to release something
grave basin
the blizzard of many years ago woulda credited everyone like 3 days game time or...
last time they did this was in WOD cause the entire expansion launch hinged on garrisons and the world server would crash repeatedly
hybrid sapphire
they were known for their polish even if it took them ages to release something
ur talking decades ago
potent pivot
2.1 and an uppy 
potent pivot
rough rock
my heart lowkey dropped xD
sharp sierra
Hi. I noticed I often waste a CC right into holy priest one time CC immune aura (Don’t know the name), I didn’t do that in TWW because WeakAuras notified, but now I noticed it’s not important enough to pop up on MiniCC as an example either. Is there any visuals I could look out for, or how do I go about figuring if he has that aura up? (Edit: Holy Ward)
potent pivot
Hi. I noticed I often waste a CC right into holy priest one time CC immune aura ...
watch their buffs
when you have them set to focus or target
if it's not on miniCC then its likely not possible to have any type of notification for it
gotta do it the oldschool way
outer sky
Jfc 8.5 minute 2s game not even at 1800mmr wtf is this
quick temple
potent pivot
?
potent pivot
🧢
quick temple
Trill's
potent pivot
Trill's
doesn't know about the imp bte bug ig
@topaz musk if you ever need help pvp wise we also have this channel
sharp sierra
watch their buffs
Got it! Ty
river pollen
Whats the most valuable thing with honor in ah
molten hedge
Whats the most valuable thing with honor in ah
prob dn
molten hedge
I'll bet youre on the edge of your seat right now
Staring at the screen “take the bait. Take the bait”
outer sky
Yep I knew it
molten hedge
😂
topaz musk
:3
potent pivot
Whats the most valuable thing with honor in ah
recipes off the pvp vendors
river pollen
recipes off the pvp vendors
Yea i took the flask one
Damn it was only 2k
I knew i just had to break the ice with my first sliver, 2nd didnt take too long
potent pivot
price check them first
river pollen
Gonna be quick from now on (clueless)
river pollen
price check them first
Yea i should lmao
Btw if yall wanna be a bit healthy, just do some push ups or smth while waiting for queue time passes quick
Dont get a heart attack tho if the game is stressful 
river pollen
Lesgooo 3rd sliver
potent pivot
Ez
Is it just me or do some things seem different from last expansion
Like the degen blitz queues aren’t from 12-5am anymore?
And barely any crate farms especially around this time as well
gleaming pawn
I haven't been paying much attention, is Outlaw better than Sub this patch? Is that why all the fotm are here again?
potent pivot
I haven't been paying much attention, is Outlaw better than Sub this patch? Is t...
I wouldn’t really say better in a general sense
Like in awc/giga high 3s it’s better
If you put the same person that’s insane at sub and insane at outlaw on the rogue, outlaws better
But for most people on ladder I really think sub is still cracked
Blitz, shuff, 2s, midrange 3s
But yea people fotm’ing based on awc
gleaming pawn
thank you sir
outer sky
LMAO the other team didn't even cap one single cart
river pollen
Like the degen blitz queues aren’t from 12-5am anymore?
Maybe cus of all the dc
Seems to be common knowledge that there are dc issues from what ive seen in both blitz and shuffle
Whenever someone looks like theyre dcing everyone jumps on to them like mad dogs
With crate sometimes they just forget to list them
potent pivot
Maybe cus of all the dc
naw i mean like all season not just this week
river pollen
Could it also be cus of the release of midnight being at a weird time
Normally in winter ppl are more into the cozy gaming vibe
potent pivot
no idea tbh
outer sky
quick temple
want a blue post on damage meters
outer sky
want a blue post on damage meters
You know blizzard made the meters shit on purpose, right?
outer sky
thats not exactly it but sure
Nah
Blizzard has historically been against the concept of damage meters in the game
So what going on is this
dark moon
Blizzard has historically been against the concept of damage meters in the game
That's the only thing important to me as a dps in pve
quick temple
its 2026
dark moon
And in pvp tbh
quick temple
the way they batch abilities together in the meter just shows they're bad at this stuff
or tag everything as secret for now
until they know what they want to show in the api
outer sky
its 2026
They dont want anyone to ever have enough information to flame anyone with. Because then the person getting flamed may get discouraged and unsub. But meters as a concept are extremely popular. So blizzard doesnt want to deal with the backlash of saying that they're intentionally getting rid of them. So what they did instead was say they were going to add a meter to the base UI, and so they gave us this meter thats functionally unusable. That allows them to get rid of meters for all practical purposes but without having to deal with the backlash of doing so because everyone is just chalking it up to incompetence instead of intent.
potent pivot
he also stopped playing trickster btw
quick temple
i mean you can still get flamed
potent pivot
quick temple
he also stopped playing trickster btw
yea i jus saw lol
proven kayak
Blizzard might be the worst gaming company oat
strange trellis
EA has entered chat
outer sky
EA has entered chat
I was gunna say. This is the only one that could maybe compete with blizzard for that title
quick temple
They dont want anyone to ever have enough information to flame anyone with. Beca...
blizzard broke competitive addons, the point was just they dont want anyone feeling like they have to download x to be competitive or have an edge
so everything labeled secret in turn broke damage meters and harmless stuff like SCT addons
thats literally it
proven kayak
Blizzard after a point they completely lost the plot
quick temple
^
outer sky
thats literally it
No that wouldnt explain their useless dps meter
quick temple
i just told you 3x why it broke meters
outer sky
I can see why it would break 3rd party meters
Theres no reason it should break their own native one
rough rock
he also stopped playing trickster btw
it took me a few games to get used to trickster but i cant imagine playing fb now
quick temple
because they're bad at designing meters lol
rough rock
having actual burst is crazy
strange trellis
I spent way too much time on dummies with the old meters, now I hardly bother :(
quick temple
it also doesnt explain why they batch spells together that arent the same spell
proven kayak
They could easily make a better interface like addons and being game baseline but they just need their players to suffer
outer sky
because they're bad at designing meters lol
Yeah idk i think my explanation is a lot more likely. They dont want meters in the game at all but they also dont want the bad PR for intentionally getting rid of them. So here we are
strange trellis
I just think theyre out of touch and also overestimated what they could realistically do in the timeframe they gave themselves
quick temple
the thing is this game engine is so old they have to use so many shortcuts to get patches out on time that spells are copy and pasted over ids or something look at cloud cover energy cost
thats why the meter sucks it was rushed out
proven kayak
Game is what 30 years old come on it could be way better
rough rock
They could easily make a better interface like addons and being game baseline bu...
One of the biggest issues imo is the amount of project manager positions and "running up the flag pole" decisions that need to be made
It leads them to being out of touch because im sure theres a shit ton of coders there that play and see the issues and cant do a single thing about it because 400 different project managers have to okay shit. So much of this shit is a few lines of code.
quick temple
and they cba relabeling spells they short handed or copypasta'd the same name
proven kayak
One of the biggest issues imo is the amount of project manager positions and "ru...
I can see that
rough rock
Also @spring bough are you fr not running SD at all? xD
gusty hedge
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/so-blizz-hotfixed-the-speed-leveling-zon...
they did the same thing with to the ring quest lvling .
They also hotfixed warcrates from past expansion now they dont give conquest as of tuesday
outer sky
they did the same thing with to the ring quest lvling .
They also hotfixed war...
Start of this xpac the honor flasks for Midnight weren't working but the ones from TWW were bugged to still work. And of course they hotfixed the old ones to not work long before they hotfixed the new ones to work.
Shit drives me crazy man
Their priorities are so fucked up
dark moon
blizzard broke competitive addons, the point was just they dont want anyone feel...
The pve scene has everything like before the addon purge
outer sky
The pve scene has everything like before the addon purge
Even PvP isnt missing much
quick temple
they just stomped a bunch of addons tuesday wdym
look at bge
none of the stuff is accurate anyway
addons can't read the combat log
outer sky
I also think anyone who seriously believes people were being held back by having to take 30s to install a Weakaura pack for a boss fight is beyond delusional. That wasnt keeping anyone from the game. What gatekeeps content is and always has been the social aspect of the game. Not having to get an addon, come on
quick temple
they can only cross reference stuff has succeeded being casted but they dont know from where or from who
quick temple
I also think anyone who seriously believes people were being held back by having...
encounters were being trivialized and they had to design the game around weakaura
rough rock
Disc + outlaw you guys think is solid for 2s? My buddy is gonna get back into the game
dark moon
Last night as in less than 10 hours ago I was watching Kiratank attempt +21 maisara caverns and he got his hands on the korean addon pack that does exactly everything we had in tww - weakauras, friendly cds, announcements
potent pivot
they can only cross reference stuff has succeeded being casted but they dont kno...
we still have omnibar, omnicd, etc
dark moon
Audio, visual, everything
rough rock
I feel like sin and sub will just destroy me lmao
potent pivot
not as inaccurate as you would think
quick temple
you cant reliably track kicking at all rn
potent pivot
especially if your team mates also have the addons
dark moon
My ui is naked, which is fine, ai didn't like weakauras, but knowing they are still around for some people makes me not wanting to play tbh
potent pivot
because it makes them work perfectly accurately
outer sky
encounters were being trivialized and they had to design the game around weakaur...
Yeah thats a real argument. "We know they'll make weakauras for this so we have to make it harder/more complicated/more tedious" but thats very different from "the game is inaccessible because addons/weakauras are required to be competitive". Like no the fuck it isnt. And thats something ive heard way too often. That is so comically far down on the list of what makes the game inaccessible its just laughable
dark moon
Lura is unkillable without the symbols addon and the ones in curseforgrle don't work in combat
proven kayak
They should only remove addons if they can make better themselves they are capable of better ui
dark moon
So you have to pay for that addon
strange trellis
Eh Im still of the opinion that you "shouldnt" need addons to play optimally... not that Blizzard's UI will be correcting that anytime soon though
proven kayak
Same
potent pivot
So you have to pay for that addon
lmfao seriously?
strange trellis
outside of niche situations at least such as addons that makes it easier on those with certain disabilities
outer sky
They should only remove addons if they can make better themselves they are capab...
This assumes they want the functionality of those addons to exist though. In the case of things like dps meters and cooldown trackers, they dont want them. They just dont want to say that out loud for fear of player backlash
outer sky
You do it and it’s end of discussion
Wym? What theyre doing is brilliant
Getting rid of meters without being held accountable for doing so by the playerbase
marsh laurel
@potent pivot what are your Stats atm when buffed to 289?
potent pivot
<@629463378250956810> what are your Stats atm when buffed to 289?
For what spec
gusty hedge
dark moon
Its literally the same as before
The Koreans have made that addon/addon pack and he got his hands on it somehow
So he has it for the MDI tourney, and im pretty sure other competitors don't have it
Or at least not everyone
It's just dumb
proven kayak
If blizzard has no haters I am dead
quick temple
https://www.youtube.com/live/ZAevkSO3OBg?is=HeRfExlRv4p6Ht2i
there's nothing here the default UI doesnt show tho
outer sky
https://tenor.com/view/liar-blizzard-activision-blizzard-activision-bobby-kotick...
Finally someone else who gets it
dark moon
Finally someone else who gets it
The things people are saying about blizzard now, I've been repeating since wod/legion but I was always "the hater". No I just wanted my fav game to be good and to feel that the devs are actually playing it.
proven kayak
The things people are saying about blizzard now, I've been repeating since wod/l...
Sorry buddy fun is not allowed
dark moon
But it just gets worse and people keep buying all the shop shit, so in blizz eyes that's support so theynwill continue
It is what it is
They even apologised for the quality of this patch, but that's all we're getting
Happy Friday I guess
dark moon
there's nothing here the default UI doesnt show tho
Have you seen MvQs pvp addon?
It shows everything and i mean everything. It was taken off curseforge labelled as cheating
So only the chosen few have it
outer sky
The things people are saying about blizzard now, I've been repeating since wod/l...
See i actually dont think the gameplay itself is all that bad. I think a lot of people just whine about the game out of habit. The shit that I cant stand is their seemingly indifferent attitude to very egregious bugs that make otherwise decent gameplay unenjoyable
dark moon
See i actually dont think the gameplay itself is all that bad. I think a lot of ...
Its the balance mainly
And the lack of
Also the dumbing down of classes
But its always the same - no logic in their moves
And the bugs that have been reported in the ALPHA and are still present
This pisses me the fuck off
outer sky
Its the balance mainly
Idk this doesnt really bother me that much. There's usually one spec that's very obviously overtuned such as MM hunter right now. But otherwise the game usually looks like "yeah ok these specs are doing really well and these ones could probably use a buff but w/e"
dark moon
And their motto "we can't do anything wrong" + "we know the best" - nuh-uh you dont
outer sky
One reason why balance is so hard is because outside of obvious outliers, people generally dont even agree on what a balanced version of the game would even look like
quick temple
Have you seen MvQs pvp addon?
i was using it but turned it off cus it was redundant
dark moon
Idk this doesnt really bother me that much. There's usually one spec that's very...
That's the thing - it was clearly OP s3 of tww (maybe s2, cant remember) and it just got buffed. Nerfing a class without changing the gameplay takes maybe no time. The lacknof communication and not addressing such outliers is what makes me not queue.
Rogue got nerfed on the second day of 2 globalling people and mm was left for the whole season
Why?
potent pivot
i was using it but turned it off cus it was redundant
thats not what he's talking about. he's talking about the private version that costs 250 euros
potent pivot
💀
dark moon
I don't want to
strange trellis
Cause they will close down their discords if theyre not
dark moon
I want it to not be meta for at least one expansion
rough rock
I feel like beta they have such a smart idea of class balance
At least the right direction
Then fucking tanked it
marsh laurel
For what spec
One and only sub
outer sky
Ret just needs a utility pruning
marsh laurel
High Haste
outer sky
Their damage is fine
quick temple
thats not what he's talking about. he's talking about the private version that c...
well it wasnt taken down cus of cheating was it was for profit
dark moon
Its always a step in the right direction but that's it, just a step. Ive been playing my whole life and its always a step, but not a stride
And now I've ruined my Friday
potent pivot
well it wasnt taken down cus of cheating was it was for profit
......
dark moon
Fuck them
rough rock
well it wasnt taken down cus of cheating was it was for profit
It was for cheating
dark moon
well it wasnt taken down cus of cheating was it was for profit
It was tho
potent pivot
it got taken down for using exploits
quick temple
what exploits
potent pivot
now he just sells it privately afaik
rough rock
It was vibe coded and was using a exploit with lifebloom to track certain things
That exploit eventually got patched out
potent pivot
what exploits
bypassing the "secret" shit in the api
outer sky
They need to just ban that guy and be done with it
potent pivot
i just find it hilarious the addon got taken down from curse for exploits and curse didn't even ban him
but they banned sammers
outer sky
Yeah really
rough rock
The sammers ban was stupid
You can’t ban somebody for “stolen code” when the code is a 1 way solution
If there’s only 1 way to use a function that makes zero sense
dark moon
iNtElLeCtUaL pRoPeRtY
quick temple
he also stopped playing trickster btw
did he say why?
rough rock
That’s like saying
Hey you used print() to display your text. Somebody else uses that so your banned for stealing code despite that being the only way to write that function
potent pivot
not much
rough rock
God damnit I messed it up
dark moon
Yeah
rough rock
Catching people’s trinket with fake smoke bomb is hilarious
outer sky
Catching people’s trinket with fake smoke bomb is hilarious
Im sure thatll get a visual update sooner or later
potent pivot
it will
everyone is complaining in pve about rogues bomb
getting party members killed by swirlies in m+ 
outer sky
Ah yeah
dark moon
everyone is complaining in pve about rogues bomb
I played 2 keys as outlaw and the tank was running away from the cloud cover
potent pivot
they prolly don't know any better
outer sky
I mean honestly they could probabky make it only visible to the rogue and itd be fine
dark moon
And they were 14-15
potent pivot
I mean honestly they could probabky make it only visible to the rogue and itd be...
yep
rough rock
Woah woah
dark moon
Its like having a bigger poison bomb - just additional affix for no reason
potent pivot
It hides puddles on the ground
git gud
rough rock
If I gotta deal with 99% of shit I can’t even see unless I pixel zoom on a character to see some random ass small glow they have that makes them immune to cc I think they can let us smoke the area a bit
dark moon
It should be barely visible or just change the animation altogether
outer sky
It should be barely visible or just change the animation altogether
Could make it look like Rune of Power or something
dark moon
Its not it
rough rock
Make it so in PvP the smoke bomb talent gives us the big smoke on it
potent pivot
If I gotta deal with 99% of shit I can’t even see unless I pixel zoom on a chara...
Makes our CDs more telegraphed though
dark moon
Or the distract animation
rough rock
Makes our CDs more telegraphed though
Adr does that anyways
dark moon
Before you distract the circle with triangle
outer sky
Make it so in PvP the smoke bomb talent gives us the big smoke on it
No way lol I want smoke bomb to be smaller not bigger lol
rough rock
That’s not fair I don’t wanna be stuck to a small ass circle to get the buff
rough rock
Fuck it make everybody who’s in get the mage invis vision 🤣
dark moon
Even if its visible for everyone
Maybe not that green, maybe white color or whatever color
outer sky
That’s not fair I don’t wanna be stuck to a small ass circle to get the buff
A smaller smoke bomb does nothing but benefit us. 99% of the time the target youre trying to kill is going to be stunned in there without a trinket so its not like you have to worry about them leaving it. Making it smaller just means their healer has to run further to enter it to save them
rough rock
No no no
I’m talking about cloud cover
Like adding the smoke effect to the pvp talent
Okay that’s not what I mean either
Like it makes the cloud cover buff itself stay its size in PvP
outer sky
I’m talking about cloud cover
We probably benefit from this looking as much like real smoke bomb as possible
rough rock
That’s true I’ll agree with that
potent pivot
Adr does that anyways
How
marsh laurel
One and only sub
@potent pivot
High haste
potent pivot
<@629463378250956810>
High haste
Oh mb didn’t see
4 set, no more than 700 haste, ~20% vers and the rest mast
That’s while scaled up to pvp ilvl
spring bough
Also <@913956782961995796> are you fr not running SD at all? xD
SD?
hybrid palm
have the disconnects been fixed, is it safe to queue ? or wait it out
untold remnant
2 Shuffles on my alt on EU and no disconnnects or issues.. but n=1 in this case
untold remnant
https://x.com/weedtylerx/status/2047424243755811277
How is his BGE working again? 😄
potent pivot
How is his BGE working again? 😄
i'm pretty sure the clip is just from the day before the patch or something
everyone is fiending for their next hit of addons
blizzard's war on addons has wiped the streets clean
no one knows where their next score will come from
untold remnant
Anyone knows if that Peralex BG addon works still? Probably not cuz they changed the tech behind it
Fcking abysmal to see where ppl are moving now in BG blitz
potent pivot
Anyone knows if that Peralex BG addon works still? Probably not cuz they changed...
Don’t think so
Everything in BGs has been made secret
Except for enemy class
It’s all extremely limited
verbal field
!stats
lethal roostBOT
These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.
- Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Haste>Crit
- Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw to lower the GCD during Adrenaline Rush. - Subtlety: Vers>Haste to 600-700>Mastery>Crit
Sub now uses a haste threshold to extend Dance and shorten Secret Technique's CD.
Sub haste rating chart:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923898501529600/1483399511836725378/image.png?ex=69bc6d33&is=69bb1bb3&hm=21db8524f3add252a5f7556c91a39c6d076b5cbf29926a0ff3de6f1dad996660&
molten dust
how assa in current patch ?
jolly sierra
dude i barely got one fucking pvp shard after like 5 rated matches
fuuuck
never joining shuffle ever again without the 298 wep
wanton breach
dude i barely got one fucking pvp shard after like 5 rated matches
i got 2 after 50 rounds of shuffles on my priest, some of those may have been with game crashes so not sure if I got the rewards at the end
potent pivot
how assa in current patch ?
Pretty good
jolly sierra
i got 2 after 50 rounds of shuffles on my priest, some of those may have been wi...
fuck then shuffle is awful idea to get them
the only one i got was from blitz after my second W
wanton breach
I just turn my brain off and heal, I wouldnt do that on rogue or other non-healers though
jolly sierra
ye i imagine
but tbh i hate this new upgrade shit, you are basically gatekeeping doing that by rewarding the ones which farm like crazy
and people which didnt is underperforming
unfair af
jolly sierra
yeah, let me buy that shit for honor or something
or just raise the drop rate
lime oar
it is mega skewed in favor of people that can play for hours everyday.
jolly sierra
it is mega skewed in favor of people that can play for hours everyday.
lit
i have a job cant afford that much time in day one
wanton breach
i have a job cant afford that much time in day one
now you get to suffer!
is the drop rate different in the brackets?
or just stupid RNG
potent pivot
is the drop rate different in the brackets?
Seems to be higher drop rate in shuffle/blitz
You got 2 in 8 shuffles
Not that bad
wanton breach
You got 2 in 8 shuffles
Make that 2 in 9
wanton breach
Not that bad
I would want to shoot myself on a dps with that rate
potent pivot
So if you can play an alt spec to farm them, do that
lime oar
You got 2 in 8 shuffles
that’s terrible if u only get in like 2-3 games
wanton breach
They also seem to be higher drop rate on fresh CR/placement games
That’s just stupid
potent pivot
I would want to shoot myself on a dps with that rate
You must not like playing the game
wanton breach
Will try some placement games i guess
jolly sierra
dude is just you already find those tryharders in shuffle
wanton breach
You must not like playing the game <:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
It’s a bipolar relationship
jolly sierra
when you try to farm
potent pivot
It’s a bipolar relationship
Real
potent pivot
when you try to farm
You still get them when you lose
jolly sierra
You still get them when you lose
got nothing
xd
more than ppl flaming me
doesnt worth the run
potent pivot
Spec sub
jolly sierra
i am on the ret, a fucker got 6-0
i am sure could be better with a proper weapon
did blitz and had less issues
jolly sierra
yes, it scales a lot
jolly sierra
against full conq geared guys?
potent pivot
Ye
potent pivot
I’m just saying
jolly sierra
i need the weapon
potent pivot
You’re overthinking something tiny
potent pivot
Yes you are
jolly sierra
very unfair
potent pivot
I promise
jolly sierra
yes you are gaslighting i notice
potent pivot
If you really think
9 ilvl on a wep
Makes you lose games you would have otherwise won
molten hedge
NoTrickz gassy
potent pivot
molten hedge
If Bicmex can get 2400 in greens with no addons with Woofwooftrap then we can do it with 9 ilvl missing
forest salmon
I want to convert a PvP item into a tier-set item with a bonus. The original item has mastery/versatility, and after conversion it becomes something like haste/vers. Is there any way to manipulate it so I can keep the same stats? I don’t need haste, I want mastery like on the original item.
molten hedge
I want to convert a PvP item into a tier-set item with a bonus. The original ite...
I had a history teacher once who taught us to accept things we didn’t like. He’d always say, “It is what it is.” Sadly, the tier set stats are the stats.
jolly sierra
If Bicmex can get 2400 in greens with no addons with Woofwooftrap then we can do...
bullshit, you are talking about a r1 vs regular players
xd
i hope to be in full purples and do anything tbh
molten hedge
potent pivot
I want to convert a PvP item into a tier-set item with a bonus. The original ite...
No, there is no way to do that. Worry less about stats.
Both assa and sub are good with some haste
On sub it’s mandatory
lilac sigil
Is boosting 80-90 or 1-90 for gold still a thing? Or did this guys went extinct?
molten hedge
Is boosting 80-90 or 1-90 for gold still a thing? Or did this guys went extinct?
There’s a boost but it costs like 500k
We had a noob in here pay for like 4 or 5 of them yday
@outer sky
About 2 hours afk
lilac sigil
Affordable better this way than spamming delve, tmw dungs or questing
quick temple
unseen blade procs after a killing spree are so nasty if they both windfury
quick temple
died before the third shot could land lol
spring bough
Anyone knows if that Peralex BG addon works still? Probably not cuz they changed...
It does not right now
spring bough
died before the third shot could land lol
Is this a death recap? An addon?
spring bough
Looks like it adds up FTH pistol dmg 👀
quick temple
gives full breakdowns
has replays, curves, kicks and cc durations, player builds ilvls etc
pm everything
both video replays and a 2d animation that doesnt require extra software
stoic spruce
spring bough
gives full breakdowns
This is amazing
abstract stratus
@potent pivot btw i went looking for that blizz setting you described and those debuffs are not on nameplates with blizz settings so idk what witchcraft bajeera is using for that shit it shouldnt be possible which is why im questioning it
grave basin
all is fine btw
abstract stratus
all is fine btw
dark kernel
I have gone to sleep two nights in a row at 9pm
stoic spruce
Loser lole
gleaming sentinel
safe to pvp today?
grave basin
safe to pvp today?
kinda
mm wall bug got fixed but theyre still in every lobby
sometimes 2x mm
good tho can we can thug cleave every round
wanton breach
all is fine btw
I don’t have any pity for devourer
grave basin
he has the tank necklace too
abstract stratus
prolly gonna spam blitz tonight on sub to try to get ANY slivers . apologies for tanking games if anyone is in shit tier mmr with me
jolly sierra
prolly gonna spam blitz tonight on sub to try to get ANY slivers . apologies for...
blitz worked better for me than SS tbh
easier to win and to rely on team
so can go decently without too much gear tho
abstract stratus
im geared and play arena exclusively typically but im not shuffleing until dc bug is fixed lol
stoic spruce
they have every right to be tbh
quick temple
so we're supposed to farm 20 of these?
lime oar
yeeppp
dark kernel
so we're supposed to farm 20 of these?
Barf
spring bough
so we're supposed to farm 20 of these?
Yup yup
quick temple
i like it, promotes participation
or idk might gut it lol
if you're behind on these like 2 weeks from now you're real behind
grave basin
i like it, promotes participation
we need MORE barriers to entry
hybrid palm
has the 298 weapon and trinket thing gone live ?
molten hedge
has the 298 weapon and trinket thing gone live ?
Ya u get them passively from rated pvp
It’s RNG
hybrid palm
ok thanks
rugged jewel
Ya u get them passively from rated pvp
What if I’m bad though?
Is there a rhyme or reason to which pieces are crafted or which pieces you want for the tier set? I feel like I’ve see different players with different stuff
river pollen
Is there a rhyme or reason to which pieces are crafted or which pieces you want ...
U can get them from losing
Not sure how exactly it works tho, cuz theoretically u could just spam queue lose on 2s
rugged jewel
Ballin. Because I definitely will be losing.
river pollen
But half of the slivers i got were from losing
molten hedge
What if I’m bad though?
Then git gud
outer sky
There’s a boost but it costs like 500k
400k and it got hotfixed yesterday DURING my boost
sharp sierra
https://x.com/bicmex/status/2047702932372488521?s=46&t=x0BMI77yQUnh2aCBSrAgIw
So annoying
vale steppe
i got 2 after 50 rounds of shuffles on my priest, some of those may have been wi...
wtf, i got 6 in like SS
nvm got 7 in 10 shuffles and 3 blitz
wanton breach
wtf
wanton breach
outlaw is one of the worst specs to play when youre fried
cant rawdog it
molten hedge
like u can be kinda fried playing a lot of other specs but outlaw u have to be locked in so hard
lavish flint
Are ppl going 4 set as outlaw? set bonus seems pretty good
spring bough
I went everything tier except for helm. Did haste/verse conq helm. Not sure what other outlaws have done for tier
molten hedge
I went everything tier except for helm. Did haste/verse conq helm. Not sure what...
I went everything but chest
per trickz
you dun fucked up
molten hedge
chest is big stats
u want worse stats on smaller pieces
no wonder meep called u a noob
vale steppe
but head is mastery, it got verse tho
molten hedge
on the real meep was raging so hard yday in every lobby
yea head has mast but chest isnt great stats either so u want the worse stats on smaller pieces im assuming was trickz logic
vale steppe
ye
spring bough
no slivers lol
I haven’t got any to drop since I hit 10 slivers
molten hedge
my cr got fucked yesterday
spring bough
And I’ve won probably 10 lobby’s since
molten hedge
5 lobbies total my DC or healer
spring bough
In a dry spell 😭
vale steppe
Outlaw seems good...
spring bough
Outlaw seems good...
Yeah it’s amazing
spring bough
First time i play outlaw
spring bough
and i think i never go back
silent linden
First time i play outlaw
For someone that never played, tell me more
vale steppe
For someone that never played, tell me more
I mean its just 10x the fun
Sub is so boring imo
its so stale
abstract stratus
Ive never enjoyed how outlaw felt like the death via 1000 cuts damage wise is it not like that at this point?
vale steppe
You can hit FAT BTE and Blade rush
spring bough
For someone that never played, tell me more
It’s like build build finish get reset procs and just smash dmg when ADR is up
molten hedge
Ive never enjoyed how outlaw felt like the death via 1000 cuts damage wise is it...
its op atm
it usually doesnt do damage
but they pruned their stuns so gave it dam
vale steppe
I think outlaw is in for a nerf ngl
molten hedge
it deserves one
vale steppe
ye i think so
vale steppe
its not as bursty, but the consistant dmg is just nuts
molten hedge
like sure if u rolled jackpot every roll it would be the most op spec in game
but u dont so
rough rock
outlaw is one of the worst specs to play when youre fried
Bro it’s so fun to turn your brain off and just hook sap, adr first 5 seconds because fuck it watch everyone freak out, prep do it again and someone will die most of the time 🤣
Thanks to @spring bough I don’t even feel like pressing dispatch anymore I’m just slamming pistol procs looooooo
rough rock
I went everything tier except for helm. Did haste/verse conq helm. Not sure what...
Since I crafted helm I had to do chest
spring bough
Thanks to <@913956782961995796> I don’t even feel like pressing dispatch anymore...
Lethality feeling good??
rough rock
Pistol damage doing nearly 300k-400k more damage than anything else shit slaps
spring bough
Yeah it’s like 3-4% ahead on overalls than the next ability for me everytime lol
rugged jewel
Whoa whoa. Whats going on here with some pistoleering?
spring bough
Whoa whoa. Whats going on here with some pistoleering?
L E T H A L I T Y + Heavy Hitter + finding opp = BIG DAM
rugged jewel
I can be a gunslinger you say
molten hedge
Crankthathog is on his way to the top again to leapfrog main. i fuckin got wrecked yday 5 DCs from me or my team cr was like 1600 or 1700
(still no sliver)
vale steppe
( 8 rounds 8 silvers ) 🙂
wanton breach
2 slivers from 72 rounds of solo shuffle, 1 from 1 game of 3v3
solid gulch
ya seems completely random, i got all 5 on my sub in like 20 games and have only gotten 4 on my law in at least 50 gamers
shuffles & 2s ^ split pretty evenly
vale steppe
2 slivers from 72 rounds of solo shuffle, 1 from 1 game of 3v3
do you win them aka 4 wins?
wanton breach
shuffle rounds are 50% winrate if thats what you are asking
spring bough
2 slivers from 72 rounds of solo shuffle, 1 from 1 game of 3v3
RNG is ass lol
So sick of these slivers
vale steppe
Idk about you but if you hold on shuffle you have 1 silver as reward for a win
atleat i do
so if u get 4 wins, you get one always
wanton breach
if you win 2, its loss, 3-3 is draw and 4-2 is win
there was no correlation between winning and getting slivers
molten hedge
rough rock
L E T H A L I T Y + Heavy Hitter + finding opp = BIG DAM
Upgrading offhand next silver gonna be the move fr
molten hedge
still no fucking sliver
spring bough
Upgrading offhand next silver gonna be the move fr
I would if I can get any to drop. MH/insignia done haven’t seen 1 since in 10+ lobby’s
spring bough
H E L L Y E A H B R O T H E R
vale steppe
2 is cap this week no?
molten hedge
H E L L Y E A H B R O T H E R
TY ❤️ now going on other rog is 1920 gonna try to get illusion
spring bough
TY ❤️ now going on other rog is 1920 gonna try to get illusion
1950 is illusion
molten hedge
1950 is illusion
yea im close
rough rock
W
spring bough
yea im close
Didnt u just get it?? lol
spring bough
Ahhh
molten hedge
that was my alt account lol
i fell like 200 cr yday from DCs
but just 4-2 5-1 5-1 6-0 so i have the hot hand
i hate full melee lobbies with sub rogs man
they feel so bad
spring bough
I’m gonna try to elite blitz tonight and over the weekend
molten hedge
bad to play with and against
spring bough
One more blitz win and I’m into the 1900s
molten hedge
shiiii
dude i realized this whole time
ive been playing that build Krasus or someone sent
from trill
LOL
i happened to hit jackpots in like 3 or 4 rounds and kept it rolling and it was just unhealable cleave
spring bough
i happened to hit jackpots in like 3 or 4 rounds and kept it rolling and it was ...
I was doing no KIR with sleight and HH last night. Think I got one roll only 2-3 times. Rest were 3 or 4. Felt amazing
Pew pew
molten hedge
I was doing no KIR with sleight and HH last night. Think I got one roll only 2-3...
yea kir might be dogshit but it feels so good to extend a 3 or jackpot
wanton breach
okay, finally got my first 5 slivers, 72 rounds of shuffle (2), 4x 2v2 (2), 1x 3v3 (1)
quick temple
Whats the word on imp bte
spring bough
Whats the word on imp bte
Meh
Idk if it works or not. With or without it feels the same lol
I think I get more value from sleight tbh
jolly sierra
okay, finally got my first 5 slivers, 72 rounds of shuffle (2), 4x 2v2 (2), 1x 3...
disgusting ratios
gotta try my own anyways
spring bough
the heavens are rejoicing at the mm 0-6
F MM 😂
All those fotm MM bout to reroll Devourer and just blast again 😂
little quest
why are outlaws on murlok.io using off hand daggers? sub/assa rogues swapping to outlaw?
sharp sierra
why are outlaws on murlok.io using off hand daggers? sub/assa rogues swapping to...
off hand daggers are better
not because they are gear switching nah
little quest
oh I see
dark moon
What did dev get buffed at? They were squishy af, did that change?
molten hedge
All those fotm MM bout to reroll Devourer and just blast again 😂
I couldnt believe we lost to the mage i was so upset
I had jackpot BR ADR and my mm didn’t turtle
spring bough
What did dev get buffed at? They were squishy af, did that change?
More dmg and soul immo heals them 24% now instead of doing dmg to them
dark moon
Kekw
spring bough
Oh and soul immo has 2 charges 30’sec cooldown
dark moon
It had tha before too
molten hedge
And the mage was 15%
dark moon
Is it annihilator no star again?
molten hedge
BR ADR BTE and it’s over
spring bough
Is it annihilator no star again?
No star build with the surrender to the void is clocking people. Devour, reap, all that doing 100-150k crits lol
molten hedge
Is gouging void ray worth or wait til after bc that’s when they have that big hit of dam
Ex something
spring bough
Is gouging void ray worth or wait til after bc that’s when they have that big hi...
Yes cause then you’ll fuck them up and they won’t get eradicate
They need a full channel of void ray for eradicate to proc
molten hedge
Yes cause then you’ll fuck them up and they won’t get eradicate
Ok I’ve been doing that bc gouge eye beam fucks DHs
spring bough
Also interrupt consume/devour and they have like 1 ability they can cast while silenced
molten hedge
I feel like sometimes I kick that shit and it doesn’t kick them
Ik they’re immune when they meta in air but idk
spring bough
Devour is supposed to not be interruptible
molten hedge
How do u kick consume then haha
spring bough
Devour isn’t kickable but it was bugged
molten hedge
Sometimes I do get kicks other times i don’t it’s weird
Yet another fuckin bug
Blizz is a mess rn
spring bough
Blizz is a mess rn
Don’t worry they Inc sub price to hire more AI
abstract stratus
minipressrelease is the most slept on addon
quick temple
You can kick devour
at launch everything they did in void meta was kick immune but it got changed
little quest
what would you change?
spring bough
minipressrelease is the most slept on addon
It’s amazing
Feel like I hit buttons before I’m supposed to be able to with it
abstract stratus
only weird bit is how it interacts with litemount but i just enable certain binds
potent pivot
what would you change?
I explained right below that message
potent pivot
<@629463378250956810> btw i went looking for that blizz setting you described an...
Look for the setting in Platy
abstract stratus
so platy is showing debuffs the stock plates cant ?
isnt that supposed to be impossible now?
potent pivot
so platy is showing debuffs the stock plates cant ?
I don’t think so no
Idk what to tell you
Cuz I’ve seen the setting
spring bough
<:OMEGALUL:413093829953191951>
Bro fuck hunters
So sick of blizz w their dog shit AI coding
molten hedge
<:OMEGALUL:413093829953191951>
Fuuuck
potent pivot
If you really think 9 ilvl on a couple items makes a difference on you winning or losing games idk what to tell you
abstract stratus
spring bough
If you really think 9 ilvl on a couple items makes a difference on you winning o...
Yes
9 ilvl a matter of life or death out here trickz 
Brb going back to combat stamina 
abstract stratus
omg slit you used to come to my window at night when i was little !
potent pivot
I def got more from 3s than shuffle
Others farmed 2s/3s for 8-10 hours and got like 2 slivers so
molten hedge
Others farmed 2s/3s for 8-10 hours and got like 2 slivers so
I don’t know shit then lol it’s just super RNG
Did like 70 shuffles got 1 iirc
potent pivot
2 is cap this week no?
No and we don’t know if there’s a cap at all tbh
molten hedge
And won most of them
abstract stratus
do you think it has to do with voidforge being started on that toonvs not being touched
potent pivot
Imp BtE
potent pivot
do you think it has to do with voidforge being started on that toonvs not being ...
don't think so no
both nahj and trim got hella slivers on fresh chars queuing placement games
gleaming sentinel
Imp BtE <:dead:932888396316155934>
does it work or not
potent pivot
in shuffle/blitz
vale steppe
Doesn’t US have Silver reward for winning shuffles?
potent pivot
does it work or not
every time i test it, it does not work
vale steppe
Is that a EU thing or what
potent pivot
Doesn’t US have Silver reward for winning shuffles?
wdym
the reward thing in the pvp window?
potent pivot
you sure about that
potent pivot
are u queuing placment games
vale steppe
How do I know
potent pivot
how many shuffles have u done on the spec
gleaming sentinel
do i need to buy honor daggers and farm offspec
potent pivot
i would try that ye
molten hedge
Imp BtE <:dead:932888396316155934>
I know man LOL. forgot I had his build. Although I did a lot of dam but that’s not saying much with outlaw these day
S
vale steppe
jolly sierra
false i play in eu in between like 4 rated games got just one
vale steppe
42/6
gleaming sentinel
full hate vers sub incoming
potent pivot
yeah you're still in placement games man
vale steppe
Ah ok that’s why I get on every win maybe
potent pivot
false i play in eu in between like 4 rated games got just one
it's more common from placement games
vale steppe
I have 9 now, 4 blitz and 1 more shuffle since that pic
Shuffle was a 5-1 I think or a 4-2
But a “win” and I got a silver
Blitz I’m 4-0
potent pivot
both nahj and trimaz q'd fresh chars and farmed them extremely fast
vale steppe
@ 2k rating so not in placement
potent pivot
trimaz got like 15 slivers in 1 sitting
jolly sierra
ah fair, i have 1k8 and got one
gotta watch how it will go but deff gotta go 100% blitz
potent pivot
@ 2k rating so not in placement
blitz has rly long placement games
like your first 15 or 30 blitz games idr
potent pivot
I know man LOL. forgot I had his build. Although I did a lot of dam but that’s n...
ye the problem is you can just win regardless of what you play so a lot of suboptimal stuff goes around
i think trill thought imp bte was working because it works in pve
spring bough
trimaz got like 15 slivers in 1 sitting
Unfair RNG
potent pivot
Unfair RNG
just q a spec in a bracket u haven't q'd on that spec
like sub blitz or somethin
spring bough
Do I take all my haste gear and buy some honor daggers and fuck up some low level sub shuffle
potent pivot
worth a shot
gleaming sentinel
Do I take all my haste gear and buy some honor daggers and fuck up some low leve...
ugh
edgy wasp
Guys what build do u run in pvp? Sudden demise or Dashing scoundrel? Also what poisons you rock.
I wanna know what to pick in like open world (warmode on all the time). I feel like wound is useless in that scenario
molten hedge
ye the problem is you can just win regardless of what you play so a lot of subop...
It may not be optimal but dam does KIR on a 3-jackpot FEEL like it changes the outcome of the game
:/
potent pivot
Guys what build do u run in pvp? Sudden demise or Dashing scoundrel? Also what p...
dashing+dtb or dashing+sudden demise
spring bough
It may not be optimal but dam does KIR on a 3-jackpot FEEL like it changes the o...
Yes
Or be like me and KIR a jackpot and 1 second later ur mage dies cause no block
edgy wasp
dashing+dtb or dashing+sudden demise
for some reason the top pvpers on the ladder run only sudden demise. I dont even consider not usin 4x poisons
potent pivot
for some reason the top pvpers on the ladder run only sudden demise. I dont even...
a lot of them are misinformed
edgy wasp
Do I go Amp + Crippling main poisons, then Deadly and attrophic? For arenas wounds instead of deadly
edgy wasp
a lot of them are misinformed
OK but they have the highest ratings on the planet. I would say they know pvp
potent pivot
OK but they have the highest ratings on the planet. I would say they know pvp
barely any of the usual top assa rogues are on murlok right now
spring bough
a lot of them are misinformed
Trickz = rogue bible
potent pivot
because assa just isn't played as much as sub/outlaw right now
you're following a bunch of "randoms"
edgy wasp
hmm
ok so u say sudden demise is troll. I was thinking it feels weird honestly especially it's just 10% in pvp, rarely do people die cuz of it
potent pivot
its not that it's troll
it just doesn't synergize with DTB
Dashing+Demise synergize because of Zoldycks
Dashing+DTB also synergize from Zoldycks
outer sky
Do I go Amp + Crippling main poisons, then Deadly and attrophic? For arenas woun...
If you play DTB, and you 1000000% dont have to, then you do wound, amp, crippling, numbing. Without DTB you just do wound and crippling
edgy wasp
I thought 4x poisons is kinda mandatry..feels nice to me idk but im noob, didnt play assa for a long time
potent pivot
its def not mandatory
but it is good for ST dmg
so for open world ya i'd stick to it
if you're mostly 1v1'ing
edgy wasp
if I dont go DTB...whats the point of Zoldyck? just increased envenom, cuz i wont have any dmg poison but Wound which is very low dmg
proven field
ok so u say sudden demise is troll. I was thinking it feels weird honestly espec...
my homie, SD kills people all the time
potent pivot
if I dont go DTB...whats the point of Zoldyck? just increased envenom, cuz i won...
Zoldycks increases much more than envenom
edgy wasp
actually yea it buffs bleed and kingsbane too
potent pivot
your poisons do not do crazy damage
outer sky
It buffs legit 95% of your damage
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your bleeds do
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And the nature damage part of implacabe strikes
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DTB just makes envenom hit harder, if you can stick to the target and apply Amp stacks
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my homie, SD kills people all the time
you would be very surprised
outer sky
my homie, SD kills people all the time
Mine does too
edgy wasp
hmm..ok.
Thats why I joined the disc, I knew there is knowledge here.
So for single target, open world quests/ shenanigans...its worth to go DTB and Dashing
For arena/solo shuffle - Dashing + SD and ignore 4x poison? Is this the play?
I do wpvp as much as i can ofc
outer sky
Zoldyck and Sudden Demise actually go well together because Zold buffs bleed damage which helps SD proc
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you can run Dashing+DTB or Dashing+SD in arena/shuffle
Dashing+SD for more spread cleave/bleed dmg
Dashing+DTB for a bit more ST
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ok got it
outer sky
hmm..ok.
Thats why I joined the disc, I knew there is knowledge here.
So for si...
For open world stuff probs play zoldyck+DTB. For arenas both are fine and probably even depends what you're fighting. Like if youre vs a melee cleave probs go dashing+SD but if you think you'll be glued to one target all game DTB can be better
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that mog ugly as hell
LOL fuck off
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edgy wasp
Alright ty bros I will test dashing today see how it goes with DTB
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gotta put cursed vision on t3 for mog props
abstract stratus
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inb4 an outlaw has thunderfury and t3
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spring bough
inb4 an outlaw has thunderfury and t3
One of my mogs might be this…..
