pvp

[potent pivot]

Dunno

[fresh bronze]

i would see them as rewards, but never actually got any x.x

[quick temple]

man is hidden opportunity that bad

dare i say

[fresh bronze]

oh ye outlaw question, do we again use ambush?

[quick temple]

no its not meta

[fresh bronze]

i dont have hidden opportunity since like last expansion

[quick temple]

well idk i just hit a 60k ambush its kinda gross

[fresh bronze]

that does sound yummy

[spring bough]

im getting 100k + pistols when u add up all the FTH hits

yeah im stayin lethality

[quick temple]

its made for trickster imo

[spring bough]

130k o so on this one

[quick temple]

im chunking with ambush into pistol shots doin sim numbers

[potent pivot]

Naw

[quick temple]

just hit a single 63k pistol shot

[frozen walrus]

What are you dropping to get Opportunity?

ACro?

[quick temple]

a lot lmao

ye

acro is good but like whos being overkilled by autos

[fresh bronze]

also question, is killing spree really that good in pvp, is it worth it

[frozen walrus]

I am not running it

BUt most on here say you should

[maiden gull]

you dont need it

[potent pivot]

It’s more damage yes

[vale steppe]

i think its really good in trickster

[potent pivot]

People choose to run less damage but then argue about if XYZ does more damage or not

Wild ngl

[vale steppe]

I like trickster but i dont like 1x vanish and 1x hook

[gleaming pawn]

Outlaw fotm

[fresh bronze]

i like outlaw 🙂 pewpew

[potent pivot]

Any thought behind this

[rough rock]

@stoic spruce you dad likes me more

it cleaves

was able to put 3 stacks on 3 different people inside the cloud at the same time

[potent pivot]

No I meant without cloud

I know for sure it cleaves in cloud

[rough rock]

oh that idk ill test that next game

[potent pivot]

Can test on cleave dummies

I’m just not at home atm

[fresh bronze]

like in solo shuffle, KS just goes wild all over the place

[fresh bronze]

so many targets

[rough rock]

only hit 4

lemme see if bf makes a difference

nah still only 4

unless its just unlucky hits with ks

[potent pivot]

Nice I thought so

Ye I think not running KS is more than “2%” in pvp

[rough rock]

i mean thats 8% more damage to each enemy

[potent pivot]

Uptime is much more sparse and you can cleave a lot of your uptime

Yeah

[rough rock]

does it counter wars ability that lets them parry everything?

[spring bough]

if u flurry in the smoke it should auto 3 stack every1

[potent pivot]

Ye we were talking about KS specifically

[quick temple]

yes

actually been killing spree thru fists of fury

[spring bough]

KS should too

[rough rock]

gotcha i thought so

[quick temple]

fazed doesnt go thru die by the sword tho

[fresh bronze]

well, my only issue, everytime i killing spree i eat a stun and it ends

[potent pivot]

Ye I just couldn’t remember for sure if it cleaved Fazed outside of Cloud, but it does

[potent pivot]

That’s fine

[spring bough]

yeah its just u thats gotta be in cloud

enemy can move out

[potent pivot]

No

I mean KS alone

[severe helm]

this doesnt work in pvp

[potent pivot]

No cloud

[severe helm]

the parry thing

[potent pivot]

At all

[severe helm]

even if you have fazed up

[quick temple]

i literally just said that

above the img

[potent pivot]

[severe helm]

I was confused cuz you also answered yes to someone asking if it counters die by the sword

[potent pivot]

They meant KS

[quick temple]

i said KS goes thru it

[molten hedge]

How do u do damage to someone 10 yds outside of cloud tho lol unless u have BTE procs

[severe helm]

oooooooooh sure

cuz its aoe

[quick temple]

cus its ranged

[potent pivot]

Leave the cloud bruh

[quick temple]

cant parry ranged attacks

[severe helm]

I thought bladeflurry also goes through

[spring bough]

they could be standing within 5 yards and ur on the edge? Idk

[severe helm]

cuz aoe physical attack bypass deflect/parry

oh but I guess then KS would go through turtle which it def doesnt

[molten hedge]

So once you leave cloud you have a buff for so many seconds?

[severe helm]

10

[vale steppe]

You can move out of cloud, its 10 seconds...

[severe helm]

cloud lasts 10s, buff is 10s from the last time you were in the cloud

[potent pivot]

Yes and you can dip back in I told you this earlier foo

[vale steppe]

You dont need to sit in it

[severe helm]

so total 20s

yeah just touch it before cloud ends

I have a weak aura if you want to track cloud timer

so you know when its about to end

[molten hedge]

But if it lasts 10 secs why would I need to go back? If I go back in at 9.9 I get the buff for 20 secs total?

[spring bough]

weak aura..... ?

[potent pivot]

Cheating fucker

[severe helm]

not cheating

[spring bough]

"hey blizz"

[severe helm]

https://wago.io/98vNhJhEH

[potent pivot]

To refresh your buff….

[severe helm]

exactly

you go back in at 9.9

to refresh it

[molten hedge]

Oh ok DUALLY noted boys

[potent pivot]

All blizzard has done is made our CDs way more apparent

This is actually a bad thing guys

[severe helm]

thanks blizz

"HEY THIS ROGUE JUST PRESSED ADR!!!"

everybody PANIC

stupid fucking game haha

[spring bough]

deleting bigmoran in shuffle

feels so amazing

[vale steppe]

what mmr Vancleef

[spring bough]

2.1

[fresh bronze]

its really funny 🙂

[rough rock]

damn blitz ques rn are like 30 min for 2300mmr

[fresh bronze]

solo shuffle is every match, i get FATA LERROR

[spring bough]

guys pistol with lethality is unstoppable

missed a 5-1... bigmoran couldnt stay alive for more than 30 seconds in round 6 LMAO

[rough rock]

Pistol shot is already normally my top damage but should try it out. I always felt like those talents did nothing

Although 6 shots back to back with 3 stacks of phase up sounds disgusting

[spring bough]

this was the overall for the lobby i was just in

pistol did like 130k on some FTH hits lolol

30k then a 50k then another 50k

[rough rock]

DAMN

You full casting KS?

[spring bough]

not really lol

[rough rock]

Yeah lmao I feel like I have to stop it after the 3rd tick

Haven’t tried it in shuffle though only been doing blitz

Once I hit 2100 I’ll go back to shuffle

[spring bough]

im so close to this 2nd wep upgrade

then its trinket and farm more for the next trinket

[rough rock]

https://x.com/roguenahj/status/2047073674868760624?s=46&t=9LYSSmKHQoj4DH5q_SF5PA

nahj (@roguenahj)

298 wep upgrade does work on crafted weapons. Much easier to farm in blitz/shuffle on alt specs. 2s/3s for 10hrs barely got 3 doing a few placement blitz/shuffles on outlaw and i got more in a hour than all day of queueing.

X · Apr 22, 2026, 10:02 PM

@severe helm @potent pivot

I wonder if outlaw should craft

[potent pivot]

Nahj to the fuckin rescue

[rough rock]

Kinda cringe that it doesn’t just change the actual ilvl

I would have preferred that when I’m doing random world pve stuff

[potent pivot]

I don’t think you need to tbh

But for sub I think we craft a main hand idk

[rough rock]

Damn so outlaw would do what just throw it on trinket?

[potent pivot]

@outer sky @jaunty osprey

[rough rock]

I mean we could craft offhand ig

[potent pivot]

No lol

Use it on conq main hand

[rough rock]

Ah gotcha that’s right

[outer sky]

Ok so we hold off until we get crafted weps

Guess ill use it on a trinket this week

[potent pivot]

Or we craft now

Now

[outer sky]

I have 0 conq

[potent pivot]

Why did u spend

[outer sky]

Idk

[potent pivot]

I tried to tell everyone to wait

[rough rock]

Why the hell he got 24% mastery on outlaw 😭

Sub reroll?

[outer sky]

Ill just use it on a trinkets this week and weapons 2 weeks from now

Not ideal but w/e

[potent pivot]

Nahj doesn’t really play outlaw

[rough rock]

Are we sure we get more than 1?

[potent pivot]

Main hand is way stronger

Maybe u use on conq wep

[potent pivot]

Yes

[outer sky]

Dont think so. I mean who cares if im 2 weeks behind the season has plenty of time left

[potent pivot]

You won’t be behind

We can farm the slivers as much as we want I think

It’s def not 1 per week at least

[outer sky]

The drop rate seems pretty low. I still only have 1 and ive been queueing

And winning

[abstract stratus]

so to whoever was wondering about stealth sound its still there but that AND literally every notification sound for the cooldown manager is bound to the EFFECTS catagory so tts is extremely quiet now unless you blast game volume

this is a new change

[potent pivot]

Saw someone get 7 last night

Just rng

[rough rock]

10 blitz games and zero of them for me haha

[outer sky]

Arite so I guess prio is main hand>dps trinket>off hand>medallion trinket?

[potent pivot]

Pretty much

[fathom crag]

i upgraded main hand + insignia you dont think thats better?

[ocean thunder]

i'm still torn on badge of ferocity vs alacrity, since I macro it with KB and i know it will proc. On the other hand gladiator gives crit where alacrity haste

[potent pivot]

It is

[potent pivot]

Insig just better overall

Kinda wild how weird this season is so far

Lot of people on murlok running troll shit

Especially on assa

[ocean thunder]

is there a cap for mastery for assa?

[jaunty osprey]

I have 2.5k conq

LOL

[potent pivot]

No

[jaunty osprey]

havent spent anything cause i use pve gear

in pvp

[ocean thunder]

lool

[spring bough]

probably is tbh lol

[potent pivot]

Where do questions like this even come from btw

I’m just curious

[ocean thunder]

i do remember there was a curve where there were diminishing returns - maybe on later seasons

i remember somehting like 30 or 40%

[vale steppe]

remember outlaw pistols is scaling on oh, so upgrading both wep is not a bad idea

[potent pivot]

Pretend those don’t exist

[ocean thunder]

i can predent ceertainly

[potent pivot]

Because they mean nothing

[drifting dew]

Is green crafted gear always 263 or is there a way to have it at 276?

[potent pivot]

The PvP ilvl can be 276/289

By using heraldries

[potent pivot]

I don’t think this matters enough

[drifting dew]

The blue honor ones id assume?

[potent pivot]

For 276 yes. Would only bother with those for specific things though

[drifting dew]

Thanks

[vale steppe]

i dont know tbh

[final dew]

arenacore bugging for anyon else? just told me A1 was a Frost DK, and A2 was an UH DK. Arena starts, and A1 switched to resto druid. tf

[spring bough]

yeah last couple days that and his peralex BG all buggy

[ocean thunder]

stupid Q, but for assa is main hand more important that offhand?

it is , right?

[spring bough]

right

[ocean thunder]

between this and path of exile i am sick of theorycrafting i just want to play games 😄

[spring bough]

Guys MM has been wild hasn’t it??

Feel like MM just doing god tier dmg

[ocean thunder]

Yeah but i have seen it also abused in terms of LoS

[molten hedge]

Is it bad to get conq chest for sub if going mastery? kalv has crafted but 21% vers in pvp is maybe a little lower than id like

[potent pivot]

They’re also bug abusing if you see them with a pet

[spring bough]

yes every1 ive seen has had 1

[potent pivot]

Likely going crafted chest ye but we might craft dagger this week

[quick temple]

apparently got fixed ln

[potent pivot]

I saw it a couple hrs ago

[potent pivot]

You mean MM with pets?

They’re getting 2 per traits or something

[molten hedge]

yea fortitude iirc

of the bear

[potent pivot]

So they have 10% more hp and 6% more DR

[quick temple]

ah laros on hunter sayin it was fixed shrug

[potent pivot]

Never trust a hunter

[molten hedge]

idts i just had a hunter obliterate everyone

[potent pivot]

Except Bicmex

[molten hedge]

oh fr? i thought i lvl was biggest dps increase u could get

why replace one 289 when i could get another

ik it can upgrade

but still

[potent pivot]

It is, it just depends on how you want to play it

[outer sky]

We're in Deephaul Ravine

[ocean thunder]

unpopular opinion but i just wanted the set looks so i didnt craft chest 😄
How much difference a bit more vers - when you get hit too

[potent pivot]

If you craft a dagger now and upgrade it, you can put Hunt on it

If you don’t

You upgrade a conq dagger

And have to upgrade the crafted later when u get it

[molten hedge]

is hunt that insane

[potent pivot]

If the slivers are common enough I guess you could just upgrade conq

But we don’t really know how limited they are

[molten hedge]

yea

[potent pivot]

So far it SEEMS like we can upgrade at least 2 items per week

But we don’t know that for sure yet

[molten hedge]

i have 3 rn and did like 9 3s and one shuffle

[ocean thunder]

i got 3 but i spammed 2s and 3s - on 2 shuffles i didnt get one

[potent pivot]

I’ve seen someone upgrade mainhand and get 2 more slivers

But idk if we’re able to use more slivers on a 2nd upgrade

I assume we can cuz why else would we still drop them but idk

[ocean thunder]

since it's not tracked on "currency" there is no cap

[potent pivot]

There is a cap to how many you can hold

Idk if there’s a limit on how many you can apply to items per week

The safest bet is probably just upgrading conq wep and crafting chest

I’m just waiting until we have the system fully figured out

[molten hedge]

what if blizz let us know

wait

nahh

[spring bough]

on a god damn roll with blitz this week so far

8-2 killing it MMR is inflating so fast lol

Ima walk back my KS is ass statement. If you get a full cast on 1 target it’s clocking like 200k dmg ez

[jaunty osprey]

Yes, it is better

But this season, off hand ilvl sims as a pretty high upgrade for me in pve, so wouldnt be surprised if same in pvp

[neat laurel]

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

• Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Haste>Crit
• Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
  You want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw to lower the GCD during Adrenaline Rush.
• Subtlety: Vers>Haste to 600-700>Mastery>Crit
  Sub now uses a haste threshold to extend Dance and shorten Secret Technique's CD.
  Sub haste rating chart:
  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923898501529600/1483399511836725378/image.png?ex=69bc6d33&is=69bb1bb3&hm=21db8524f3add252a5f7556c91a39c6d076b5cbf29926a0ff3de6f1dad996660&

[jaunty osprey]

Or if you play 2 diff specs

(Outlaw, sub)

Might be worth doing 2 weapons

[ocean thunder]

between an outlaw and a surviv who do you target?

[molten hedge]

in shuffle i personally prefer hunters bc i can cleave the outlaw while being able to stop traps on healer easier

[vale steppe]

noway u run haste as sub these days, thats outdated

[molten hedge]

@outer sky

[potent pivot]

It’s not

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

waited till this ret popped bubbles in a skrim hit him with it after and bro went to sleep

[potent pivot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1496646236927688936/Z.png?ex=69eaa3ed&is=69e9526d&hm=61fb4bb497e8cdcb607d562db9ff9fcdf7a7bb1fba47ee267b1e2c3bba1aa037&

[grave basin]

Anyone else got one tapped by mm this week

[spring bough]

yes

[grave basin]

Im having ptsd from last season

[spring bough]

they do dog on my team then off do infinite dmg

[grave basin]

Absolutely wild

[abstract stratus]

Just dont let them play

[grave basin]

How are we back to this lol

[spring bough]

i stay on them its the other dps that is like fk it im not chasing

[grave basin]

It's all instant procs

[spring bough]

aimed hits alteast 2 times within .2 seconds now too lol

[potent pivot]

I thought that got changed with the patch

[grave basin]

I should learn how to play frost dk

[spring bough]

idk maybe it did i remember that from a death log last week. but their dmg is still insane its like it hits more times not less lmao

[grave basin]

This mm just globaled my ret last shuffle

Like all auto casts

Had to log off between that and someone always DCing

[spring bough]

time to drop smoke for disarm? lol

[potent pivot]

Wut

You be playing some weird shit bro

[grave basin]

Pre emptive smoke and disarm

What are you dropping anything for

Dfa?

[spring bough]

i always run turn the tables with preemptive

[grave basin]

Big dam

[molten hedge]

thats what im thinking LOL

gotta be boarding party

or turn the tables

im so fuckin pissed

i was 4-0 in a shuffle and DCd but it wasnt a normal DC there was an error message from my computer

[grave basin]

Game just fatal errors

Every lobby for me someone DCed

Fun

[spring bough]

in a double outlaw shuffle

double hunt too

[grave basin]

Im still playing catch up with outlaw gear

Feelsbadman

[unique garnet]

Hows trickster feeling in pvp now?

outlaw ^

[potent pivot]

Good

[dark kernel]

Are we still crashing nonstop

[queen jetty]

I'm playing with a outlaw/bm in 3v3 and unsure what healer currently compliments them, leaning more towards rdruid/pres or i'm i cucking their potential

[spring bough]

what is with people ordering rogues to sit base in blitz all the sudden

[hybrid sapphire]

i just got one of these

are they random? only after a certain mmr?

[potent pivot]

Random

No rating req

[hybrid sapphire]

are they new this patch

[potent pivot]

Naw you’re just randomly 7 weeks behind all of us

[hybrid sapphire]

idk sis they call me bad luck boyfriend

[potent pivot]

Yeah they’re new lol

[hybrid sapphire]

im encountered a bug where i simply do not leave combat ever

fucked up

[spring bough]

solo'd enemy rogue at farm for cap lololol

killed the guy in a kidney pretty much

[quick temple]

thats what im sayin

ppl get isolated often enough and it can pound them

[potent pivot]

They’re testing a new bge

Looks like mister weed is

[ocean thunder]

i farmed 3s and 2s and finally got the 5th and upgraded MH

its quite the ordeal tho

[runic laurel]

I mean you kinda just passively get them by doing the content that you were gonna do anyways

[potent pivot]

Apparently they come easier from blitz and shuff

[spring bough]

been in a 9min avg blitz que for 33min......

[rough rock]

Bro idk but it’s been annoying

[spring bough]

it justt popped to 3 declines

now im waiting again

[rough rock]

Yeah that was happening to me earlier so I called it

Not being able to have that addon for blitz feels so weird too

[spring bough]

every1s always got a strat

[potent pivot]

New one soon apparently

[rough rock]

It’s killing the ques I feel like

[potent pivot]

Prolly

They’re trying to get the new one out tonight

[spring bough]

finally into 1800 territory for blitz climbing today

[stoic spruce]

Ye it finally has a place now

[abstract stratus]

WHOSE TOON IS CJROB

[stoic spruce]

You can have him lol

Keators my dad

[atomic fractal]

does it matter the ilvl a pvp item gets crafted at if it will scale to 289, no right

[potent pivot]

The PvE ilvl and materials used do not matter

But you have to use the correct Heraldries to scale it’s PvP ilvl

[atomic fractal]

understood, thank you

[spring bough]

wtb instant ilvl adjusted pvp gear like we had all last xpack

[potent pivot]

Yep

Kinda annoying

[spring bough]

i cant get this last splinter to drop lol

[potent pivot]

Anyone starting late is going to be queuing into everyone that has 298 weps/trinkets.. lol

[frozen walrus]

Do they drop into the bag, or do you get them from loot boxes?

[grave basin]

Yea idk what blizz is thinking with this

[potent pivot]

You also have to farm them on every character

Ffs lol

[spring bough]

into ur bag... and they can be sold to vendors so dont accidentally sell them LOL

[grave basin]

So obvious trying to extend played metrics

[spring bough]

the fact its not on currency tab so lazy

[lime oar]

yeah this is fried

[grave basin]

Going from full honor to maxed conq + 298 wep trinks is massive now

[lime oar]

i still haven’t got one from any of my wins

[grave basin]

I cba to even play alts

[lime oar]

prob like 7 wins

[grave basin]

I got one even after a shuffle loss

So it's pure rng

Dont even need to win lol

[lime oar]

idk bout that

[potent pivot]

You can get them from losses too

[lime oar]

maybe

[potent pivot]

That is basically confirmed now

[lime oar]

damn lmfao

[potent pivot]

Heard it from multiple people

[molten hedge]

@lime oar ur set bro!!

[potent pivot]

[lime oar]

my rng is mega fucked if that’s th case bro

has the crafted mystery been solved

[potent pivot]

Yes

You can upgrade crafted

I’m going to make a pin of everything we know so far when I get home

[lime oar]

ok

i’ll make sure to ask u again tmrw

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

When can we upgrade armor**

[potent pivot]

Never afaik

It’s only weps/trinkets this season

For PvE at least

[grave basin]

Noice

Outlaw supremacy

Nahj malding

[spring bough]

LETS GO

[vale steppe]

Haha his ego is too big to swap to outlaw. He will die on that sub hill.

[grave basin]

He does play outlaw but only as a last resort

Need to get my last sliver for weapon on hunt then cap my rog

[quick temple]

why doesnt arena core have a basic theme

[spring bough]

What do u mean? U can change it around

[potent pivot]

It does, try the Venruki profile

[quick temple]

all i see

[spring bough]

Just blastin the 🐐

[quick temple]

out the box stuff overlaps its gross

[spring bough]

You can move it around or like trickz said there are profiles

[potent pivot]

I think he has to update the addon

It’s normally very clean

[quick temple]

yea i can move stuff around jus weird its all staggered

and i'd like a sarena closer look, idk i jus got this off forge

[potent pivot]

Not theme, go to Profiles

[quick temple]

ah i see

[potent pivot]

I customized my profile with the Venruki profile as a base

[hybrid sapphire]

https://www.pvpleaderboard.com/leaderboards/filter/results?class=rogue&spec=assassination&leaderboard=3v3&region=us

bro look at us...

[hybrid palm]

Mm hunters are back? N bigger

[potent pivot]

Yep

Lot of them are bug abusing

[hybrid sapphire]

my mage today said they have an exploit lol

[grave basin]

Yea...

You can have tank pet bonuses + freedom

and people were doing it in awc

The admins said it was clever use of game mechanics and they werent DQed

Cant make this shit up

[potent pivot]

L0l

[grave basin]

Thats ontop of w/e black arrow bugs they introduced this patch

Dogshit game

[hybrid sapphire]

poggers 😻

[potent pivot]

I saw that Biel used it in awc

That’s crazy

[rough rock]

https://x.com/feedgodx/status/2047139321799430565?s=46&t=9LYSSmKHQoj4DH5q_SF5PA

Feed (@Feedgodx)

.

X · Apr 23, 2026, 2:23 AM

lol bug abuse go crazy

[severe helm]

Lol I heard Hunter has a perma wall or something?

[rough rock]

They get double tenacity buff by despawning and respawning their pet

Plus some other crazy thing I can’t remember

Like full blown 100-0 in a few globals

[potent pivot]

i don't think they even have to do anything to do the bug now

just taking a certain talent and having a pet lets them have 2 diff pet attributes when they shouldn't have 2

something about unbreakable bond or something

so MM has like extra 10% HP and perma 6% DR they shouldn't have

590k health and a bunch of DR

plus whatever is making them do insane damage

its honestly a tragedy this tiny .5 patch is so scuffed

[severe helm]

ye my friend said it was unbreakable bond

[stoic spruce]

I was thinking this is one of the most broken ina long time

[potent pivot]

i swear tww s1 .5 was scuffed af

but this one is also very scuffed

[stoic spruce]

well if we didnt have such a short patch cadence...

[hybrid sapphire]

they must be working them like dogs lol

[potent pivot]

lmao apparently hunters are also exploiting in Decor Duels

L0llll

[hybrid sapphire]

#ban

[potent pivot]

Track Humanoids

is working in them

lmfao

[hybrid sapphire]

his paycheck*

[severe helm]

ion is such a big fat liar lol

its pathetic

[spring bough]

And yet things like ADR not dropping cloud without at least 30 energy exist

[potent pivot]

i just posted the same thing but from wowhead

[hybrid sapphire]

so they can cash in $60 bux every 1.25 years instead of every 2

[potent pivot]

apparently BGE targeting is gone

but you can just use targeting macros to target the enemy players

so now someone is likely going to make some type of "Dynamic Macros" addon for targeting 1-8

[stoic spruce]

cut corners to the quality planned

get lawyered

[wanton breach]

[wanton breach]

why is this new fun game mode already so toxic

[potent pivot]

people hiding out of bounds and shit lol..

[stoic spruce]

Oh is that where they are?

[severe helm]

does that work? I thought it was only objective based

like target arena 1,2,3 works for orbs and stuff

or on flag map for flag holders

[potent pivot]

no idea

maybe an addon will automatically target them by their character names

I don’t think there’s a way for them to get rid of targeting across the map completely

[potent pivot]

lmaooooooo

[static holly]

Any crucial bugs to know and may wait for pvping?

[potent pivot]

Nah

[static holly]

DK and Hunter have some kind of bugs, isn't it?

[potent pivot]

Just a couple specs doing too well because of bugs

You can still beat them tho

[static holly]

Just asking..played yesterday after the patch and the games felt better than before

I will try my luck again and hit the queue

Ty

[quick temple]

found another in my game

[untold remnant]

So what happens here, you pick a freedom pet but spec tenacity bird?

The thing is; if you play MM and do summon a pet, your intimidation still uses the bird to stun, instead of having the pet do the stun like BM/SV.

So MM has 2 pets essentially. You can als do the bird bloodlust while having a freedom pet and using the damage reduction talent in the row below Unbreakable bond.

But this is not a new bug I think, might be the way they’ve designed it in the first place

[grave basin]

Exploit early exploit often

[quick temple]

I thought they only had the eagle when you spec'd out of a pet

[rough rock]

Man that’s sucks

There’s so many people who have no idea what to do already

[grave basin]

Alrdy made my mail chest with 4 heraldries weeks ago

[rough rock]

But it is annoying not being able to track where a rogue is

Already hard enough to get everyone to group middle now someone defensive for fc maps will need to be watching to see where fc is going

[potent pivot]

its not a new bug but now it just happens without you having to force it to happen

[potent pivot]

a lot of people don't know how to use bge anyway tbh

even in r1 mmr games

also

it till make people fuck up more often

on both teams

makes the bracket more simple to play in a way

[rough rock]

I do agree with that

But on the other side (hot take) it is kinda cringe that you can see where every enemy is on the map at all times. But then again what’s the difference on let’s say EOTS where you can literally see everyone at all time and manually clicking on them vs having BGE ya know?

[potent pivot]

[rough rock]

Actually that’s the only map I can think of that has any kind of no visual hiding of other team

Besides temple

[rough rock]

W

[grave basin]

Love this comment lol

[dark stump]

which one are u leveling ?

[potent pivot]

[dark stump]

[potent pivot]

298 ilvl wep/trinket upgrades

You can obtain Voidslivers by queuing rated pvp, you CAN use these upgrade tokens on crafted items. There does not seem to be a weekly cap, some have already upgraded 2 items and continued to drop slivers.

[potent pivot]

did i miss anything

[dark stump]

voidforge but didn't know it could be used for pvp gear/crafted

[potent pivot]

huh

[potent pivot]

what will be my law specific rogue ig

don't like playing it on my high haste sub geared rogue

[grave basin]

Im just retooling my sub rogue

When conq uncaps can have both sets anyway

[potent pivot]

i didn't want to be half geared for both specs ngl

[grave basin]

Yea it's pretty scuffed inbetween

[potent pivot]

i've got my low haste sub rogue i can play sub/assa on, high haste sub for just sub

now i'll have law

usually make 2-3 every expansion anyway

[severe helm]

The fuuuuuuuck

[potent pivot]

=)

[severe helm]

My buddies have been saying games felt awful since it broke

Like it's just chaos

No one goes anywhere they're supposed to

[potent pivot]

good

time for them to git gud

[severe helm]

They're good that's not the issue

It's the idiots on your team

[potent pivot]

start having premonitions of where you need to be or gtfo

[severe helm]

I need my team to have their hand held lol

[potent pivot]

make macros to call out everything you see

Pres/Rogue otw to BS!

or

make in-game voice normalized

[neat canopy]

Are there any streamers to watch that play outlaw pvp? or is murlok.io my best shot for that kinda stuff?

[severe helm]

Well you won't know this without bge either lol

You can only see your immediate area

Like if you're at mines in AB

You have no knowledge

[untold remnant]

Now I understand why Icyveins promotes this build with pet again 😛

I just did a skirmish on MM > 550 k hp and the black arrow build SLAPS

[potent pivot]

trill, sometimes whaazz, sometimes trimaz, once in a blue moon dazed, but be wary of copying everything from people/murlok/websites in general

lots of troll shit been going on this season

[neat canopy]

appreciate it ty. yeah tryin to find a solid person to follow to avoid that

[dark moon]

Nask was outlawing yesterday and destroying people

[potent pivot]

there's a build in the pins, i can find you someone with proper gear to copy if you need that

[dark moon]

People were just flopping for no apparent reason to me

[neat canopy]

if you have the time thatd be great, but no rush

thank you a bunch

[potent pivot]

np gimme a few

[neat canopy]

is it safe to say the 2 outlaw builds in the pinned section, one is for arenas/ss other is for rated bgs? or are they just all around builds

[potent pivot]

well the trickster build is basically the new all around build now, thats why it says preferred

[neat canopy]

only reason i love fate build is the 4x grappling hook ha

[potent pivot]

fatebound is good for flag BG maps specifically for 4x grappling hooks

but for base maps its not as needed

[neat canopy]

10/4 ty

[potent pivot]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/eu/tarren-mill/framemøgged

this is the guy with the closest idea to bis gear, but i'd still do a few things differently then he did

the thing is most outlaws rn are just copying what AWC outlaws did in tourney, so everyone is lacking critical information

everyone is running 2set even though 4set is better than conq gear, and everyone is stacking vers to the moon which is just unnecessary for ladder games, compared to AWC games

[neat canopy]

sounds like things are all over the place currently

[potent pivot]

pretty much

crit is better than vers damage wise atm, especially even more so for trickster

you need like 22-25% haste, a minimum of 20% or a little more vers

then just what little extra room you have thrown into crit

secondaries are a bit rough because its s1 of an expansion

outlaw's haste breakpoint is a bit ridic

[neat canopy]

ok. noted. ty again for your help. this all should keep me busy and get me geared 🙂

[fathom crag]

i agree i think 4set is good

i like the full vers gear tho

many sub rogues

[thin grove]

aight boys quick tl;dr for me, did anything change sub pvp wise? ty 😗

[potent pivot]

you just swap to the trickster talent 'cloud cover'

don't necessarily need to change anything you were doing

[thin grove]

lovely ty

[potent pivot]

idk man crit is just better for dmg

trickster is also a bit more tanky than fatebound

[thin grove]

Does it also work like the Smoke Bomb or is it just the visual?

[potent pivot]

just visual

[thin grove]

meh

[potent pivot]

its insanely strong

[thin grove]

How so? Eventhough it doesnt work like smoke bomb, other people might fall for it and start panicing, no?

[potent pivot]

the talent got reworked

[thin grove]

Oh I see, so it's basically a flat 16% dmg buff

[potent pivot]

it only stacks when you are buffed from the cloud

but yea

3 stacks = 24% instead of 8%

[thin grove]

nice

[potent pivot]

this also gets 3x'd

so 150% builder crit damage

[stoic spruce]

outlaw would use old CB rn if it could

and if we had gsw as well

[potent pivot]

so would sub

[stoic spruce]

ssheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh

[thin grove]

@potent pivot i just noticed that Cloud Cover also triggers the pvp talent "Distracting Mirage" smh. Slowed without using Distract 😄

[potent pivot]

it also makes Blades consume 30 energy as if you're casting Distract

[thin grove]

LOL

You think it might be worth using Thief's Bargain now? 20% cd reduc for blades. 10% dmg penalty doesnt seem too bad now?!

[potent pivot]

no

[fathom crag]

cant pick it sadly

[quick temple]

why can't it?

lethality makes sin strike and pistol shots crit like finishers

[potent pivot]

OLD cold blood

[marsh laurel]

Sub stays with trickster? Or is DS now an Option?

No fan of switching Mark manually

[potent pivot]

stays trickster

[runic laurel]

idk if this is a useful data point but i got 10 shards, upgraded both of my conquest weapons, and then got an 11th shard before i stopped queueing for the night

[potent pivot]

yes thats useful information. also you should have upgrade trinket over offhand weapon.

[runic laurel]

yeah but im shard rich so ill upgrade that soon

or my brain was fried after queueing into too much mm not sure

[potent pivot]

nahj said they seem to drop more from blitz/shuffle

compared to 2s/3s

[runic laurel]

i got prob 9 of them from 3s but i def high rolled, think my teammates got like 5 or 7

[potent pivot]

yeah i've heard some people got 5 while their team mate got 0 in a 2s session

i think its tuned to be more likely from blitz/shuffle because the games are much longer on average

[runic laurel]

yeah if its roughly 3x higher rate it would kinda even out

has anyone gotten one from unrated bgs or skirms? or 100% from rated content

[potent pivot]

i haven't had anyone confirm to me that they drop from unrated

its worded like they should

and some random translate Chinese twitter post said they do, but lol

[rough rock]

Yeah that’s what I was saying, EOTS is the only node map I can think of where you can see 99% of the map at all times

But again (hot take) I like the idea of people being forced to look around instead of waiting efc ping

[rough rock]

That’s also what I’m thinking, you basically waste a sc point having to use KS to apply the stacks fast

It’s basically 1 wasted talent point so might as well use cb

[potent pivot]

wuh

just don't charge it

tf

[rough rock]

What do you mean charge

Like full cast?

[potent pivot]

no

don't supercharge ks

[rough rock]

But it doesn’t apply 3 stacks without cloud no?

[potent pivot]

You proc 3 stacks fast af in cloud regardless I’m pretty sure

Don’t need to move KS up in priority

[rough rock]

I’ve been using ks to do the stacks because it’s way faster than ss I would imagine lmao

Like 3 globals

Unless it fully applies 3 stacks with 1 ss

[potent pivot]

Iirc all attacks apply fazed in the cloud

[quick temple]

yea

[potent pivot]

It stacks really fast

[rough rock]

Those 3 hits with KS is like 1 global compared to ss needing 3

Well ig there’s also pistol shot

[potent pivot]

Just try it first before you argue against it imo

[rough rock]

Oh I’m not arguing I genuinely haven’t tried that

[potent pivot]

I don’t think there’s any situation where you’d supercharge KS

Wordz

[rough rock]

I just figured the 1 second it takes KS to apply 3 compared to pressing ss 3x is faster

But I’m also not thinking about pistol shot procs doing it

Didn’t even think about that part

[potent pivot]

Autos too I think

Not 100% sure on that though idr

[rough rock]

I’ll try that when I’m home, wish there was a CD reset thing when doing dummies

[potent pivot]

Blade flurry, blade rush, etc?

[potent pivot]

And duels

[rough rock]

So main process would be getting grave digger

Adr, rtb, flurry if AOE or opp procs for st, BTE with gravedigger

Right?

[potent pivot]

Sounds about right but blade rush > BtE

[rough rock]

That’s for you 4 set nerds

[potent pivot]

Your main priorities are BF(aoe) > BR > BtE > KS > dispatch

[potent pivot]

No

Even with 2 set you’d BR

[rough rock]

Yeah it does hit fat as hell

[gusty hedge]

BR on Cd mostly

[potent pivot]

But yea 4 set is good

[rough rock]

I’ve been thinking about since my crit is only at like 19%

Meanwhile I have 34% verse

I just don’t like the mastery stats

[potent pivot]

There are… certain unknown things about 4 set

[potent pivot]

It’s very worth

The tooltip doesn’t tell the whole story

[rough rock]

Spill your secrets old man

[potent pivot]

[rough rock]

I’ll enjoy my 560k hp while you enjoy that pitiful 2.5% boost!

Jk I’ll probably try it out later

[potent pivot]

closer to 5 in total i think

the 5% is nerfed to .6 not .5, so thats 3% on the damage buff

then the BR cd and other stuffs

[spice thorn]

I’ve scrolled up a fair bit but can’t find anything, sorry I’m sure it’s already been asked... has sub changed at all? I’m seeing something about stats changing? And bugs with SB/Distract?

[potent pivot]

idk where you're seeing stats changing

the only thing that changed was you take Cloud Cover > No Scruples on the Trickster hero tree because Cloud Cover got reworked

with Cloud Cover now Shadowblades drops a fake smoke bomb looking cloud which buffs your damage, this fake bomb used to be tied to Distract

so now Shadowblades is bugged and consumes 30 energy when you cast it to drop the bomb

[warped gate]

Bruh, wtf is this?!

Is this something they added in the new patch?

[potent pivot]

[spice thorn]

Thanks bro

[warped gate]

I guess I should've searched first.

[warped gate]

I really should read patch notes besides class changes, I had no idea this was a thing.

I thought it was some vendor trash and was about to sell it.

[spice thorn]

From this post on wow Reddit could be PVE only and/or could be fake news

[potent pivot]

this is really stupid big dumbass energy fake news

[lone jasper]

also got it but dont really know how or on what to use it right xD

[potent pivot]

hahahahaha as if it was even on the patch notes

everything we know about it has been figured out by the community piece by piece

[spice thorn]

Lmao nice, it did smell that way

[potent pivot]

you farm 5 -> combine them into 1 whole shard -> use it to upgrade items

[potent pivot]

in pve they went from using mastery flask to crit flask, and switching a couple pieces of gear to crit instead of mastery. idk who that guy is but that post has been posted multiple times and they are my enemy now.

[lone jasper]

any items? there written on weapon and trinkets i can use it on crafted ones?

[potent pivot]

only conq level weps/trinkets, and yes it works on crafted as stated in the pinned message of this channel

[lone jasper]

just checked new pin, thanks

[warped gate]

Really?! So something this important was shadow dropped?

[potent pivot]

yep

we knew SOMETHING was happening to get us to 298 weps/trinkets

because they announced the whole system for pve

but they didn't mention how we would get it for pvp

usually when they do turbo boost in the past, pvp just gets it for free on the items on patch day

this is the first time they make us actually farm it

[rough rock]

Top tens said this was true

[warped gate]

Huh.

I was so caught up in the fact that I was zugging, that I totally didn't realize I was getting these things.

[wanton breach]

hero crests pog

[wanton breach]

that is inaccurate since they didnt announce the 4 week quest system

[potent pivot]

[warped gate]

Offfff course it's not 100%.

[potent pivot]

its very rng

seems to be more likely from blitz/shuffles, assuming because they take longer to do

but you can also proc them off of losses

[wicked shell]

Ass or sub now in blitz?

[potent pivot]

you can kinda play w/e u want but if u really care about minmaxing and can play sub to its potential, sub

[warped gate]

Ohhh, you can get them off of losses? That's great, that'll make the grind waaay less painful.

[potent pivot]

thats what i've heard yeah

[grave basin]

Not pog since the hero crest cap is so low

Youre hero capped by nightmare prey + t11 delves super quick

[silent linden]

For a casual that did not play since WOTLK and just hit lv 90, what to try to gear for? I am planning a mix of arena and BGs
For now I leveled as Sub and feels good. Which spec is more forgiving?

[dark moon]

Outlaw pumps

[potent pivot]

the most forgiving is probably assa

[molten hedge]

Yeah I’m Turbo gapping everyone with 4 set and missing about 2k conq worth of gear on my alt rog. It’s good

[potent pivot]

[molten hedge]

Someone mentioned this yday lol

[potent pivot]

Yeah the sound was just gone

They fucked up a lot of sound settings

[molten hedge]

They fixed the humanoid tracking too in decor

I’m ngl I didn’t notice mm being insane bc I was destroying them

But wonder how this will fare for rmp now

[potent pivot]

They are quite OP rn

If playing all the right stuff

[molten hedge]

I like outlaw but it felt kinda better playing sub in rmp to just stun more

[potent pivot]

I still think sub is just as good as law on ladder

[molten hedge]

Yeah it felt better imo but maybe it’s just bc I can peel more

Playing outlaw into sub also doesn’t feel great

In shuffle I prefer outlaw tho bc damage is king

[potent pivot]

High haste build in shuff, low haste build for rmp

[molten hedge]

I am just getting 4 set on sub too lol it feels good also paired with cloud

[potent pivot]

And low haste rogue for assa shuffs cuz assa just cranks

All 3 just seem rly good imo

[molten hedge]

Yeah they are all fun

I agree

I saw Val do some 2s and a few times he’d ADR KS

Instead of ADR>BR>BTE>KS

[potent pivot]

I do not expect chef to play correctly if you want me to be dead honest with you

[molten hedge]

Chef is a funny fella

[potent pivot]

He’s a good player and understands pvp reasonably well

No flame or anything

But after seeing him run a slow offhand on sub I cba

[molten hedge]

Yeah he’s been struggling to get out of that 2200

But he plays some scuffed comps sometimes

I saw Kalvish on mm ln idk if he was just memeing or practicing something

I wonder if thug will be actually good this ssn or it’s just a generic version of jungle and Cupid

[potent pivot]

If mm stays this op I think mm anything will be good lmao

We traded ww/x meta for mm/x meta

Ig it helps with the mage meta but

Still think mm needs to be fixed and toned down a smidge

apparently fresh chars get slivers faster

nahj was saying that too in his tweet

[molten hedge]

I got one every other shuffle on my fresh outlaw so possibly

[molten hedge]

Yeah idk how we’re gonna play it lol. Maybe go Kalvish mode and pillar hump all game and hit closest melee

As rmp

[potent pivot]

ig ill be gearing up my new rogue through blitz n shuffs

gonna crate farm a bit tmrw til i'm half conq/half honor then send it

[potent pivot]

kalv been playing mm so if you're going kalvish mode you might wanna start leveling

[molten hedge]

lol I meant play rmp like he does into hunters and just be a bitch on pillar most of the game

I’ve played mage into mm it’s miserable

[potent pivot]

yea ik i was joking

[molten hedge]

We could play jungle but I rly prefer rog over feral

[potent pivot]

couldn't pay me to play feral again

after tww s1

[molten hedge]

I was a noob then it was my first ssn on wow what happened lol

[potent pivot]

feral was just rogue but better

after the 30sec CD nerf of kidney

[molten hedge]

Oh wait I think I remember Nahj talking about that every stream

[potent pivot]

feral did more damage, had a 20sec kidney, clone, shapeshift, etc

a shitload of rogues went feral for the season

[molten hedge]

Is that when everyone was dueling like Southwest of stormwind lol

[potent pivot]

one of the only seasons i've ever played another class more than rogue

[molten hedge]

Feral is a frustrating ass spec to play in shuffle

[potent pivot]

isn't that where everyone duels

[molten hedge]

Not Elwynn. It was like an open area with a farmer plot and hills

[potent pivot]

why would the spot move

[molten hedge]

I remember Aeghis just destroying everyone with his little ring stun orb flurry frostfire bolt ice lance spam lol

[potent pivot]

i remember a lot of dueling at the farm on tww beta

pre season

[molten hedge]

Bc Elwynn had some issue

It was laggy or something

So they moved west

I haven’t been there since

[potent pivot]

idk

i do remember that though

during beta/preseason

[molten hedge]

I remember frost mages hitting 1.5 mil ice lances

[warped gate]

Confirmed.

[potent pivot]

nice

i appreciate you posting it

[warped gate]

I don't, but you're welcome. 🥲

[molten hedge]

💀

[warped gate]

At least I got enough to upgrade my sword, this should definitely help out.

[potent pivot]

fosho

[molten hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/balcony-clorox-jump-pretend-pretendo-to-jump-gif-23427978

[jolly sierra]

nice we can get them from Ls

now what about skirmishes?

[warped gate]

Not in my experience, and I've done a few since the reset.

[abstract stratus]

ive done prolly 40 or 50 since reset and got none, went into a shuffle last night and crashed 3 times 🙂 im not shuffleing until this shit is fixed guess ill blitz on sin until then

[willow tartan]

sooo... do you guys craft your pvp gear for the stats or do you go for the glad. gear?

not sure on how to spend my conquest

[warped gate]

Depends on what stats you want/need.

Here's a great link for answers on that: https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1283780831147589713

[outer sky]

Lmao

https://www.twitch.tv/kalvish/clip/BashfulHandsomeWoodcockRitzMitz-t524h7wc7FSWfL-P

[lone jasper]

Flashback of Tww season 3

[molten hedge]

Trimaz streaming some outlaw thug rn 👀

[willow tartan]

thanks a bunch

i just recently started playing wow again after a multi expac break, so not that familiar with the crafting aspect of pvp yet - the link¨s very helpful

[warped gate]

I feel you, that was me a couple expansions ago. ✊🏾

[willow tartan]

i used my 9 free heraldries for neck & 2 rings with haste / vers and will now prob. craft other haste / vers gear after having used the catalyst for 2set bonus

[spring bough]

Did u take the L for the purpose of science

I played like 8 solo ques last night and only ended up 20 rating higher from where I started 😭

[frozen walrus]

Looks like he is running Trickster with NO KS?

[jade owl]

most pvp rogues dont really play for max pve or it takes awhile for things to reach the pvp community compared to pve

[warped gate]

.. Yeeeeeaaaaah, yeah, that's right.

[grave basin]

holy shit everyone and their dog is on mm

the fotmers brought out their tww s3 mains

[spring bough]

MM was everywhere last night

9/10 had pets too

[dark kernel]

What's rh massive MM bug

[grave basin]

i wanna say wait for tuning but im not sure if there's gonna be one next reset

there should be right considering it's a new patch

[spring bough]

Better not be for outlaw at least

[cobalt pewter]

games not playable this week

[grave basin]

this week he says

laughs in tww s3

[dark kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/league-of-legends-dumbo-drinking-water-t1-drinking-dumbo-drinking-water-gif-5833717593105737590

[proven kayak]

What if I level up my hunt

[long shore]

Hi all, were there any recent rogue buffs?

Anyone know where to find them

[abstract stratus]

all i want is to not crash 3 times in 1 shuffle lobby

crazy request

[proven kayak]

That’s indeed crazy

I do skirmishes and I get an insane amount of lua error

[abstract stratus]

i had zero crashes playing unrated ran myt first shuffle this week last night and had back to back to back crashs

lobby was resto sham resto druid mm hunter demo lock and afflock

and me on sin

crashed first 3 rounds

[spring bough]

Says the arms warrior 😂

Saw one go 6-0 last night nothing was stopping him 😭

Yall really not queuing? Legit went up 120 rating so far since Tuesday 😂

[gleaming sentinel]

Q times for my outlaw have tripled. I hate fotm rerolling so
Much

Nerf outlaw so I can play plz

[cobalt pewter]

📉

[spring bough]

Pls no nerfs 😭

Actually doing dmg for once and it feels quite nice

[fathom crag]

i wouldnt mind a nerf

but something that wont kill the spec

[abstract stratus]

removes restless blades

[gleaming sentinel]

My dmg in keys was real sick last night though lol

[dark stump]

Everything has and had it's time my child

Nerf outlaw

[spring bough]

Yeah it’s doing very well

I gotta gear out to PVE now lol

[dark stump]

i'm curious is it possible to get the Mythic mog just by doing pvp ?

[gleaming sentinel]

I like doing pve at the start of expacs and transitioning to PvP once everything inflates a little

[spring bough]

Prob not. Gotta run like 10 level keys for mythic track. I think 6-9 gives hero, so could get that to max hero track for mythic appearance

[gleaming sentinel]

(Becuase I am not that good)

[grave basin]

massive psyops by big arms

more mm = less mages = arms stonks rises

[proven kayak]

Is outlaw that good after last
Patch ?

Also is there a bug in eots I was constantly getting out of stealth after I passed the bridge

[grave basin]

what are the good classes in wow now i wonder

[proven kayak]

Hmmmm

[fathom crag]

best melee

[fathom crag]

you cant go in bridges, if you want to inc bases goes thru mid

not in mid as on the flag

but downstairs

[dark moon]

Somebody on twitter said rets are fine

I almost got banned for profanity on twitter

[grave basin]

hes bug abusing with the pet too

and didnt turle my round

ah ret didnt bubble

KEK

[fathom crag]

apparently its not bug abuse

[grave basin]

yea it's allowed

in awc

big brain

[fathom crag]

https://x.com/Robotzlol/status/2047118145379266781

Robotz (@Robotzlol)

For everyone crying bug abuse, here's what's ACTUALLY going on.

▶ Play video

X · Apr 23, 2026, 12:59 AM

[spring bough]

Yes

[grave basin]

any1 else 298 gaming

im already lazy to do this on alts

on dual wield classes i need 10x slivers come on mang

[spring bough]

Yes

Do 2H weapons only take 1 upgrade item??

If so that’s not fair 😂

[grave basin]

yea

only one upgrade

[proven kayak]

Thanks haven’t played the map since it was with 2 bases in blitz

[grave basin]

another lobby

another cheating mm

game is unplayable

[proven kayak]

Damn I have to level up my other erode for outlaw 😭😭

To be fair I enjoy sub this ssn a lot

[spring bough]

Yeah completely unfair lmaoooo

Dual wielders needing 2 and yall 2H bros needing 1?!? I need some compensation from blizz

[hushed mango]

hi me and my friends are trying to climb 3v3 one ofe my friends only plays sub rogue and i play healer, any tips on the best 3v3 comps that have been viable for some time exept rogue mage priest?

[grave basin]

yea i cba queueing

am i bugged?i keep getting shards

[spring bough]

Send me that 1

[grave basin]

i literally got 6 in a row

every shuffle win or lose i get one

[spring bough]

4/5 last night and like 6-7 lobby wins didn’t get the last I needed

😭

[grave basin]

must be compensated for not playing mm

i feel the same feeling as the ret patch rn

@spring bough whaaz said imp BTE works now

[spring bough]

Prob still not gonna play it 🤷‍♂️

Idek what ima move around points wise if I did 😭

[neat canopy]

What should my spell queue window be? outlaw pvp

[abstract stratus]

100 more than your ping typically

[neat canopy]

thank you. ill do that

[severe helm]

thats a lil low tbh

the spell queue window is how close to the gcd you need to press your buttons to have it register as gcd perfect

so that means you need to time it within 100ms

[severe helm]

fr fr?

crit stonks up @potent pivot

[neat canopy]

i figured id try and set it at 200. i have 85ping.

[grave basin]

yea it got fixed ystd

[severe helm]

yeah sometimes its hard to know if its too low so imo starting higher and going down is the safest thing

if its too low your gcds get delayed without you realizing

[grave basin]

what do you drop for it though

dont you want 2x ace now

[severe helm]

Good question

ngl

prob acro

autos are big but theyre pad

bte blasts if the crit dam is working

question is does it still have the pvp nerf though

so maybe its not quite as strong as it would be otherwise

[grave basin]

30% AA speed is insane no

[severe helm]

such a pain in the ass to test too

its not speed

but yeah I think it needs testing

[grave basin]

no pvp mod from wowhead

[severe helm]

I just know in pve that acro is only 0.3% worse than sleight

so acro isnt as strong as you think