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willow valley
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idk what catalyst is

rough rock
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this for sub or outlaw?

willow valley
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sub

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always sub

rough rock
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Thats what the catalyst is

willow valley
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and chest right?

rough rock
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nope

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only want 4 piece and skip chest

willow valley
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why

rough rock
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because you lose good stats and dont gain anything from running 5 pieces

willow valley
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mhhhh

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ok

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and its normal that it changes stats?

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like

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now it gives double the mastery and half the versa

rough rock
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yup

willow valley
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alr

rough rock
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you can also use this to check what everyone runs

willow valley
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oh

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amazing

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thx

severe helm
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Watch trill

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Nahj is a sub main

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He doesn't know how to do overall

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It was in the finals

rough rock
lethal roostBOT
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These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

rough rock
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Try to get the 684 haste as well

willow valley
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i mean

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the extra 2 GCD sounds juicy

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but idk who it was that told me not to push for THAT many haste

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just to sit at 200

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i play pretty much everything

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BGs mainly since shuffle queue is quite long

gusty hedge
potent pivot
willow valley
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ye

willow valley
potent pivot
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That’s what I heard yes

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You could always track enemy globals btw

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Nope. It will be 1min CD

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Very much larger

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2 set is more important but 4 set is still quite good

unreal marsh
potent pivot
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Too many people play sub horribly and afk mid game ngl

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In awc it’s a bit diff because they literally only care about their set up

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But in shuffle you can still do decent overall dps

spring bough
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Hey ret did you hit bubble? “I did but I lagged” bro didn’t cast it 😭

potent pivot
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a lot of pvp players are just like

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really bad at doing damage

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defensives is a whole different ball game but similar story ye

spring bough
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My favorite was the 0-6 void disc last night

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Every round “yall didn’t interrupt monk sleep” when we did everytime we could

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Then whispers me after “if void disc wasn’t shit I would be rank 1” 😭

molten hedge
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Not that sub normally plays that way anyway. But with the dance change that kinda changed

spring bough
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What should the race be for the second outlaw rogue

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High mountain? Orc?

jolly sierra
spring bough
jolly sierra
potent pivot
spring bough
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Already got the human

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Have an 80 high mountain and orc. Would have to completely level a panda

gusty hedge
severe helm
spring bough
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First season I haven’t played night elf since DF

potent pivot
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@molten hedge whaazz played orc today btw garf_sit

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I swear he was trolling just to see how many randoms made gnomes

severe helm
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its like a tournament pick

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like when priests play gnome against boomy meta

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or play undead when theyre gona face mw/rmp mirror

dark kernel
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100%, even Nahj said gnome sub is decent

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Just not into rmp mirror

severe helm
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depends what kind of rmp mirror prob

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like into outlaw doesnt need as much stun duration

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but into sub you prob want it

dark kernel
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Yeah

potent pivot
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Ngl I think troll outlaw would be better for raw uptime

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Especially into comps that have to use a global to slow

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Makes em waste a lot more globals so lowers their damage too

severe helm
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wait what does troll do

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I thought they just had the bloodlust racial

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and some passive health regen

dark kernel
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It's not bad

severe helm
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iiiinteresting

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I think snares arent that problematic for outlaw though

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does it reduce roots too?

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or nah

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roots feel like the big issue fo rme

dark kernel
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I don't know all details

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But I know some warriors are doing it

severe helm
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hmmmm

potent pivot
severe helm
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whooooa

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thats pretty hot

potent pivot
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You know how arms warrior got a new snare reduction?

severe helm
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and it stacks youre saying

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thats op

potent pivot
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When in battle stance they reduce root/snare duration

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Yeah

severe helm
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super op

potent pivot
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Guess the duration

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Of a frost mage root

severe helm
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40% off?

potent pivot
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On a troll arms warr

severe helm
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does rogue/outlaw have any snare reduction

potent pivot
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It’s an 8sec root originally

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It’s like 3sec for troll arms

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Lol

potent pivot
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Unbreakable stride

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So troll would make all slows extremely short

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Our talent just doesn’t shorten roots

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So only troll would be doing that for us

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But we already have more root outs than anyone else

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So idk

severe helm
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I see

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well outlaw doesnt have many

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2 min cd root break

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not great

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thats worse than most melee specs afaik

potent pivot
severe helm
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wym

potent pivot
severe helm
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just two

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if you take double vanish

potent pivot
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Cloak ;)

severe helm
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hahaha

potent pivot
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I guess it kinda depends on how much you’re getting rooted

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If you’re getting rooted 3x per min I think troll wins

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If a bit less, gnome

potent pivot
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Who else has root breaks

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Ik ret and ww ofc

spring bough
jolly sierra
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ww root break is awful anyways

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doesnt protect you from a next one or a slow

potent pivot
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How

severe helm
jolly sierra
severe helm
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survival

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feral

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ret

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dk

potent pivot
severe helm
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I thought all the melee specs have one

potent pivot
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Only rets is like a full movement immunity no?

jolly sierra
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u can lit entangling root, the guy uses the tiger lust then the guy can redo it

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simply

jolly sierra
potent pivot
potent pivot
jolly sierra
potent pivot
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What is DKs

severe helm
potent pivot
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Nvm

jolly sierra
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dk have death walk

potent pivot
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Ya

severe helm
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rogue has the longest cd root break haha

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of all the melee

jolly sierra
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and that includes movement protection

severe helm
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yeah and dk has a freedom

potent pivot
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We need old maneuverability AND burst of speed

severe helm
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fr

jolly sierra
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i talked about dk itself

molten hedge
severe helm
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old maneuverability would go so hard rn

jolly sierra
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no fkn way they can just kite you to death easily

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there is no compensation for breaking a snare

potent pivot
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I think warr is a bit worse off than us considering that

molten hedge
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@potent pivot if you ran double dps trinkets would do you do double insig or one insig one badge

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I’m guessing double insig?

severe helm
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you dont get the set bonus

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its never worth

molten hedge
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What’s set bonus? Stam?

severe helm
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and main stat

molten hedge
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And one other thing

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How much

severe helm
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10%

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I think

jolly sierra
severe helm
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10 or 20

molten hedge
severe helm
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the set bonus requires that you use one of the "cc break" trinkets

potent pivot
severe helm
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I thought you didnt

jolly sierra
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you get bonus

potent pivot
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You do

severe helm
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the two types of trinkets are dps trinket and cc break trinket

jolly sierra
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i have my ret

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and get bonus w double dps

potent pivot
severe helm
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are you sure?

molten hedge
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Mewo I asked earlier but idt anyone answered. Ideally on outlaw say you’re about to kidney what would I want if possible? BTE off cd, some opp stacks, maybe Blade Rush?

jolly sierra
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yes?

potent pivot
jolly sierra
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that is the reason ppl goes human in some races

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if u dont get bonuses doesnt makes sense

severe helm
potent pivot
severe helm
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blade rush hits p hard

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but yeah dont save anything

potent pivot
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Send everything on CD basically

severe helm
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as outlaw

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press on cd

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do dam

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zug

molten hedge
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Yea I just hate when I kidney and I don’t have anything

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So if I had to hold it for 5 or 10 seconds while doing my rotation to put me in a better spot

jolly sierra
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double insignia doesnt stacks anymore

potent pivot
molten hedge
potent pivot
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That is trolling yourself so hard

molten hedge
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It takes me like 5 or so games

severe helm
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only thing I might hold is blade rush

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or adr

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you can hold adr for 5 s

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thats fine

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but for builder/spender just do your rotation

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constantly

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thats best

potent pivot
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I wouldn’t hold BR either rn

molten hedge
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But once I get warmed up, I do the most dam and idet I’m doing rotation super well. Still working on it

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My BR normally hits for like 50-70k ish rn maybe 80 high end

potent pivot
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BR on CD is pretty important rn

molten hedge
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Yeah I was surprised when you told me BR before BTE procs

potent pivot
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It can hit harder

severe helm
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BR on cd

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cuz you want it on cooldown

molten hedge
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When BTE lights up, and then it no longer is lit, what do you lose

severe helm
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when you use finishers

potent pivot
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I’ve seen like 130k

severe helm
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bte light up is nonsense

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its a fake light up

molten hedge
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The opportunity for BTE to proc again?

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Oh ok

severe helm
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it doesnt mean to press it again

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its not like that one does more

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so you use it as is in the rules

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which is at 6cp+

potent pivot
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They made BtE light up? LOL

molten hedge
severe helm
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never lower

severe helm
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its very misleading

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cuz people press it again insta

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at like 3 cp

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when you proc ace

molten hedge
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Damn fuck me

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Well I wasn’t doing that

potent pivot
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I haven’t even noticed

molten hedge
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But I was prio-ing it

severe helm
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bte should be priod over dispatch

molten hedge
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Yeah

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But BR over all

severe helm
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but BR is the highest prio button p much

spring bough
severe helm
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obv adr

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is higher

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technically

molten hedge
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Yeah

severe helm
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the bible

potent pivot
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READ UR BIBLE SON

severe helm
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solo is very very thorough with his guides and faqs

molten hedge
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There’s times when I have like 5 seconds on my roll but ADR coming off cd like 1-2 globals so I hold adr so I’m assured 2 or better

severe helm
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some rules dont apply cuz bte is weaker in pvp

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like dont hold bte for adr

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like it says in the guide

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thats a pve rule due to supercharger

molten hedge
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Or my roll even run out

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But I have only a few secs before ADR back

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So I just don’t roll

severe helm
molten hedge
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That ok?

severe helm
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you can let your roll run out though yeah

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if you have an adr soon

molten hedge
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Ok good

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Yeah

severe helm
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max like 5 seconds though

molten hedge
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What about prep? Like how long on ADR cd is acceptable? Obviously it’s situational

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But as a general rule

severe helm
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1:30+

molten hedge
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Ok good

severe helm
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but also try to make sure bte/br are on cd too

molten hedge
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Yea always

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I played 4 shuffles today and had a shuffle with a sub every one. I think I enjoy assa sub more than outlaw sub but I haven’t played with it enough to know

severe helm
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I hate sub lobbies as outlaw

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you arent good with the sub

molten hedge
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Yeah

severe helm
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and it feels kinda bad against the sub

molten hedge
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Fr

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I watched him get double bestial wrathed in opener one shuffle

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He was a whisper in the wind after that

severe helm
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Bruh the bestial wrath burst is so dumb

potent pivot
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Supposedly MiniCC has Omnibar now? @severe helm @jaunty osprey

severe helm
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Oh shit

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Matter of time

spring bough
severe helm
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Lololol

spring bough
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yes it does

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just popped up in the solo shuff im in

potent pivot
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Apparently it sucks tho

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Compared to the private ones

spring bough
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i just got feared in maldrax collesium

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outside of the map

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how is that even possible lmao

severe helm
potent pivot
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Whaazz was saying he was going to ask if he could make theirs public

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But now that minicc has one maybe not

severe helm
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I mean if someone was inclined haha

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Can't stop em

potent pivot
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Well he can’t post it to curse without permission from echo/echos coder

spring bough
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game in such a shit state we have pay for and private addons lmaooo

outer sky
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gleaming pawn
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It’s more surprising when things actually work as intended with Rogues these days. More bugs than actual design

potent pivot
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Lol

spring bough
potent pivot
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Typically extra effects come from actually casting the ability

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Like CT spreading IB through it’s cleaved ruptures shouldn’t be a thing

spring bough
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getting so tired of these WWs with infinite utility and dmg

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Devo too with this GD breath

lavish flint
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how do u feel about outlaw in solo shuffle? i havent tried it yet

potent pivot
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It’s good

spring bough
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its good does big dam

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sit in a ton of CC tho

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and slows

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feels bad some lobbys lmao

lavish flint
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ye thinking sub might be an easier time vs some lobbys

spring bough
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just had a lobby where i sat in nothing but CC.... pistol my top overall dmg by a million lol

outer sky
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it matters

potent pivot
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Press fok

jaunty osprey
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Venomous wounds is single target

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who the fuck cares

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LOL

outer sky
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its not just bleeds

potent pivot
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We know

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VW doesn’t work like it used to

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Secondary bleeds barely give any energy

jaunty osprey
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^

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Like barely aka close to nothing

outer sky
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Into pet classes ive been spamming CT wondering why I'm not getting any more energy

jaunty osprey
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you dont spam CT

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You apply bleeds via CT

outer sky
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yeah no kidding lol

jaunty osprey
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and then fan

outer sky
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if its so inconsequential they should just make 2 set work with CT

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do the garrotes spread by CT get the damage bonus?

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if 2 set doesnt work for CT in one manner It wouldnt surprise me if it didnt work in the other as well

ocean thunder
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I dont get it, i see Assassin stats adn there are some random haste pieces, like crafted wrists - why????

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Is there a breakpoint or something?

jaunty osprey
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Improved Garrote has a different icon

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If you didn’t know

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lol

abstract stratus
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its the bright angry garrote

gleaming pawn
outer sky
potent pivot
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Having some haste on assa is more than fine though

outer sky
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thats why I asked that

potent pivot
severe helm
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usually lol

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feral has snapshotting still for some reason

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I think they like it for the gameplay of it

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at least in tww it was that way

potent pivot
severe helm
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I thought some things still retroactively applied like the crit chance from master assassin

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but the damage from imp garrote didnt

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jank ass class

potent pivot
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Wdym retroactively

severe helm
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like if you vanished your active bleeds would get increased crit chance

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didnt need to reapply them

potent pivot
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Ya, dynamic

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Assa snapshots are always just bugs

severe helm
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Truuuu

ocean thunder
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why would you craft insignia trinket and not buy with conq straight?

potent pivot
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No reason to

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Some people did week 1 with their heraldries

jolly sierra
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can you craft epic ilvl trinks?

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lol

ocean thunder
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i see, i wonder which one is best for assa, the passive or active

potent pivot
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It’s hard to explain a REAL snapshot. But what we’re referring to is when you cast a bleed and it keeps a buff even after the buff wears off.

ocean thunder
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the glad level one passive has haste though while the other has crit, but 1min CD aligsn with kingsbane

potent pivot
potent pivot
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You’re worrying about stats too much

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Especially as assa all stats have decent value

jolly sierra
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to test if those 2 stacks

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maybe is a diff id

potent pivot
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What

jolly sierra
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double insignia

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both crafted and conq one

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lol

potent pivot
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Naw

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Don’t think u can

jolly sierra
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bah costs like 500g

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wont hurt if is not the case

potent pivot
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The green one would work

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Because it’s a different currency level

jolly sierra
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hmm

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then why it worked for former xps trinkets from same season?

potent pivot
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U can buy an honor and a conq insig and use both of those

jolly sierra
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ye ik

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is one or the other one the one which trigger at time

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not both this time

potent pivot
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Huh

jolly sierra
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in former xps

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you can have both insignias triggered at same time with separate bonuses

potent pivot
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Ya

jolly sierra
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in this xp you can't have both at same time

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for example

potent pivot
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They proc independent but can overlap

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Pretty sure

jolly sierra
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ye can overlap

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but not coexist

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that is what i said

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XD

potent pivot
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What

jolly sierra
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imagine a raid

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u get the proc from the conq one

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if you get that and the honor one procs

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the honor one will replace the conq one

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with the duration and effect

potent pivot
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That would mean they don’t overlap

jolly sierra
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ye

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that happens rn

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but before midnight they did

potent pivot
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I heard otherwise

jaunty osprey
potent pivot
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Like a week ago

jaunty osprey
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In the past

potent pivot
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Someone here tested it

jaunty osprey
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very easy wowhead check

jolly sierra
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i did

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used them both in lfr

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and never got duo procs

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just replacement

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from the other one

potent pivot
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Someone else tested in pvp and they overlapped

jolly sierra
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idk then

severe helm
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ur mom did

jolly sierra
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can try again

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maybe

jaunty osprey
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The way u check

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is if the spellid is the same

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if it’s diff you’ll get 2 diff procs

potent pivot
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Calling cap on this one until I see it in game ngl

jaunty osprey
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If it’s same spellid either it gives 1x value or 2x value

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very easy check

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can check later

jolly sierra
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not overlapped

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xd

severe helm
jaunty osprey
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but in TWW, most human rets used 2x of the same trinkets

severe helm
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doubling up sometimes just doubles the proc chance

jaunty osprey
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no

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doubling up enchants makes the value 2x

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and embellishments

potent pivot
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Not for actual items

severe helm
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depends which

potent pivot
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Enhancements are diff

ocean thunder
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I mean there's no point of discussion unless you are human and still it's not optimal

jolly sierra
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ye i use human

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so for me at least it matters

ocean thunder
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human racial is not even a full trinket though, right? its just stuns or something

potent pivot
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Mhm

jolly sierra
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ye

potent pivot
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Some people like having fun

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Bigdam bigdam

jaunty osprey
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i wanna go mechagnome

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For the appearance

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need those metal legs

jolly sierra
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mechagnome is probably the most neglected race ingame

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even more than pandas

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lol

potent pivot
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Panda and mechagnome are the best pve races in the game rn

jolly sierra
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ye i said about mostly popularity

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and aesthetics

potent pivot
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They are popular af rn

jolly sierra
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right now?

potent pivot
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They buffed panda not too long ago

jolly sierra
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in tww they were forgotten af

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ah

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look

potent pivot
jolly sierra
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lol

potent pivot
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Panda is the best race in pve

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Everyone is fucking panda rn

jolly sierra
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ye i am living inside a cave if this changed a month ago

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ye i talk about mechagnomes too

potent pivot
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They are too

jolly sierra
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w this u say?

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potent pivot
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Panda and mechagnome are like #1/#2 for PvE dps depending on spec

potent pivot
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And panda gets double food buff

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Which is extremely strong rn

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Like for sub it’s mechagnome > panda > etc

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For outlaw/assa it’s panda > everything iirc

jolly sierra
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care in showin

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the data

potent pivot
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Sec

jolly sierra
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i am checking and mechagnome is still very low

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at least where i am

potent pivot
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A lot of it is like mythic raiders

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Lot of casuals don’t ALL copy races in pve like pvp

jolly sierra
potent pivot
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If u look at WCL or raiderio u will see a lot more than if u look at data of just everyone in the game

potent pivot
jolly sierra
potent pivot
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The data I showed was the dps stats

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Not population

jolly sierra
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ah no

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i talked about population

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xd

potent pivot
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…

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I’m saying they are more popular rn especially at the higher end

jolly sierra
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ye but in a casual pov i say, that is the reason i said almost no one cared about pandas or mechagnomes

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xd

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high end is still elite

potent pivot
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Idk u said neglected

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I just don’t think that’s the case :d

jolly sierra
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ye neglected in the sense almost no one cares

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but few players

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xd

potent pivot
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Idk

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Data for Azeroth prolly pulling a lot of random ass ppl

jolly sierra
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ye

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its checking the max lvl ppl

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but about that and high end stuff

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i recall that was most critical in wod with blood elves

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both paragon and method switched to that race to get optimal

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but mandatory

dark kernel
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When will undead be BiS

jolly sierra
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it was for classic

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XD

potent pivot
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Undead IS the actual neglected race

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Worst performance by fucking -3% or something crazy

jolly sierra
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touch of the grave is fkn shit

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no way we can say is wrong to say that

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lol

ocean thunder
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The horde must look cool, so no UD for you

dark kernel
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I 100% think will should no longer share an internal with trinket

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It's so weird that it does now

potent pivot
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One of the only races that hasn’t had a racial update in like a decade

peak flare
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Rogue Assassination Developers’ notes: Mutilate has fallen behind its expected contribution in PvP combat. A sizeable buff is being applied, intended to improve steady damage output.
Mutilate damage increased by 180% in PvP combat.

This seems really massive?

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24266320/hotfixes-april-17-2026

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Hotfixes: April 17, 2026

Here you will find a list of hotfixes that address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Midnight, Mists of Pandaria Classic, Season of Discovery, Burning Crusade Classic, WoW Classic Era, and Hardcore.

potent pivot
peak flare
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ok i believe you but why

potent pivot
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180% of 1k is only 2.8k

ocean thunder
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yeah 180% of 0 is still 0

potent pivot
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It’s a decent buff don’t get me wrong

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But mut is still kinda ass

peak flare
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damn i need to log on damage logs from a 2s match or something

ocean thunder
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maybe it iwll make 4set worth?

peak flare
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didnt realize it was that wet noodle-y

dark kernel
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This is all PvE shit

potent pivot
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With doomblade and systemic it seems to do ok dmg

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But you just need to be pressing FoK in pvp

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To spread poisons

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Now you don’t have to feel like you’re TROLLING pressing mutilate

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Because before we would barely ever mutilate, it was all FoK

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Now you can do both

potent pivot
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For healers I think it needs to share cd

dark kernel
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I also think to reduce the dampening they should put healer trinket back to 2 minutes but that's just me

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This is the funniest video I have seen in a while

spring bough
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17 seconds off the match start lol

peak flare
#

which one of you is this? skibidi gladiator coming soon?

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stoic spruce
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So context matters as you can see lol

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Tmp sounds familiar

spring bough
stoic spruce
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Oh is he back to farming 1800s?

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I thought he was a classic andy now

hybrid sapphire
#

dude how tf are we supposed to make money

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gleaming sentinel
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the engi ones and weapons sell well

hybrid sapphire
potent pivot
hybrid sapphire
#

wut

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wait that was an april 7th buff...

proven field
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Dude you sure that’s not the old buff

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We just got 180%

hybrid sapphire
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💆‍♂️

gleaming pawn
#

I might actually do Blitz this season, is Assa team fighting or node guarding this time around

potent pivot
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Probably have to play objectives

gleaming pawn
#

bleh I guess I could play Sub

potent pivot
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Cuz it isn’t crazy at team fight anymore

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Sub cc is just insane for blitz

modern osprey
#

Good evening. Does anyone have the vanish + cheap shot macro?

potent pivot
#

Very simple
/cast XXX
/cast XXX

modern osprey
spring bough
#

getting like 75k minimum on my blade rushes tonight lol

severe helm
spring bough
#

holy... a healer in blitz just whispered me "ping me if u need a dispell for FC"

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never seen that in my life lol

severe helm
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thats strange

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lol

spring bough
#

deephaul game

stoic spruce
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Ravine?

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Isn't that the cart map?

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That's silvershard nvm

lime oar
#

i don’t think assa should team fight in node maps

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go steal shit

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it’s easy

potent pivot
#

Assa aoe was giga broken in pvp

fathom crag
gleaming pawn
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yeah but sub is grief on my soul

potent pivot
fathom crag
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haha its terrible

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was op last season tho

potent pivot
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I think u were there when he said it

fathom crag
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i was yeah

potent pivot
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The other day

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Yea

fathom crag
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he said about hooks n shit but thats useless

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sub does everything same but 100 times better

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mby outlaw better on deephaul for team fight tbh but thats it

molten hedge
#

which route on follow the arrow is the fastest boys

potent pivot
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Those are sections not different routes

molten hedge
#

you mean like do those 4 sections

potent pivot
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I’ve never had to pick

fathom crag
# molten hedge

do all 10 delves in to clear zulaman fully & finish with some eversong

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88 return all delves

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takes 4hrs

molten hedge
potent pivot
#

The addon takes you through all of that

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And it tells u what items to buy/craft at the end to the T

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Goated addon ngl

molten hedge
#

what u guys thinks most braindead spec for leveling

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assa?

potent pivot
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Sub

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Assa is fine too tho

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Sub just blows anything up in a couple globals

molten hedge
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bet

severe helm
rough rock
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longest ive ever held 1 orb

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the other orb cap was for like 5 seconds lmao

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that buff towards the end was making my KS half people lmao

hybrid sapphire
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im leveling assa rn and itrs literally 2 buttons

spring bough
#

the amount of people that dont pickup orbs on temple... lol

molten hedge
#

anyone have follow the arrow bug out and arrow disappears and like glitches

rough rock
#

never had that happen

potent pivot
molten hedge
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nah that shit disappeared

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fr

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updated in curse

potent pivot
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No check box on the addon?

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Are u in zulaman

molten hedge
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no

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just did collegiate calamity

potent pivot
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There’s like 1 little side quest that bugs it sometimes in zulaman

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U sure there’s no check box in the addon window?

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Cuz I’ve never had it just disappear

molten hedge
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i havent even done that many quests only a few delves

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went back to beginning and no checkboxces

potent pivot
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Idk

molten hedge
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"youve compelted this step" on every step

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ill uninstall

potent pivot
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I’ve used it on many chars and never had an issue

molten hedge
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yea idk man

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it was there

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then it started glitching like a light flickering

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then disappeared

potent pivot
molten hedge
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so if i go to any of the other 3 the arrow comes back

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but when i go to delves and voidstorm it disappears lol

severe helm
#

Many times

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Have to just type /fta

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It comes back

molten hedge
#

p sure i tried that and it did not work

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even deleted addon and redownloaded

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always some bullshit

potent pivot
#

I’ve legit never had that issue

molten hedge
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I SEEE HOW IT IS

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dont belive ol guiseppi but Meowie says something and we believe it

stoic spruce
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If you don't bug your add-ons out you suck at wow

potent pivot
molten hedge
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i was gonna take a vid bc ik ppl make mistakes

potent pivot
molten hedge
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ive been fried many times

potent pivot
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I just never experienced it so thought it was odd

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Cuz I’ll like drag my shit out long after too

molten hedge
#

listening to whaazz's stream from earlier today

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hes looking at ladder and says maybe i go troll to stack the root thing

potent pivot
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Like I’ll do a couple lvls, leave, come back to it, etc

molten hedge
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and then says nah i think gnome is better

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lmao

potent pivot
#

Always picks up where I left off

molten hedge
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im lvling an orc rog

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bc my outlaw is HMT for a meme with my friends

potent pivot
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And everyone fucking follows

molten hedge
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yea he was playing assa while shit talking sub immediately after warcraft raided him after awc lmfao

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he said ww is getting nerfed on tues i thought it was a net positive? but im not a ww expert so idk

severe helm
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Mine just disappeared like every hour or so on a random quest turn in

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Would just vanish

severe helm
#

It's mind numbing I hate it

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I have one more alt to do

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Second rogue

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Then I'm done

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My second priest was hella slow

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Prob like 4-5hours

stoic spruce
#

Someone say vanish?

potent pivot
molten hedge
# potent pivot shit talking how lol

just saying how he told lontar it wouldnt be good after the nerfs everyone was putting it S tier and how hard it is to make it work but its possible just that outlaws way better

molten hedge
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whats the diff in the 2 assa builds SD and DTB and SD and Zoldycks

gusty hedge
hybrid sapphire
#

gj davy

outer sky
#

this 8 second root that frost mages have in incredibly obnoxious

maiden gull
#

Mages are broken af, they have more Invis than a Rogue

hybrid sapphire
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lmao

severe helm
outer sky
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Im so hype for Tuesdays life cocoon CD nerf

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15s I think will matter

alpine scarab
#

Morning all. I’m a returning player and want to focus on PvP but I’m having trouble finding solid information on gearing. Is anyone able to help by answering a few questions in DMs please?

outer sky
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Check the gearing FAQ

warped gate
dark moon
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Jesus, Man!

ocean thunder
proper vortex
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hey guys, didnt play for 2 weeks. we dont go for 600 haste anymore?

potent pivot
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crit might surpass mastery this reset SHUSHERS

proper vortex
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I somehow have 767 haste with 4 set pices oops

sly swan
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!stats

lethal roostBOT
#

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

neat laurel
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!stats

lethal roostBOT
#

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

wanton breach
#

!stats

lethal roostBOT
#

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

potent pivot
dark kernel
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This is my favorite gif of all time

potent pivot
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its so good

dark kernel
#

It's me after every session of shuffle

potent pivot
dark kernel
#

I'm a little special

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It was the T1 content creator did like a April fools joke

wanton breach
jolly sierra
#

got the achiv in mop classic

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gotta buy a full elite set

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(mop classic is fkn dead)

dark kernel
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wish I hit him with an ebin meme

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but didnt want him to tilt

spring bough
jolly sierra
#

the darkspear rebellion

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but you know

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in a survey blizzard considered to transfer classic stuff to retail months ago

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so maybe maybe i get this on retail too lol

alpine scarab
#

hey, what's the best items to craft with the 9 galactic heralds? i'm playing sub

potent pivot
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belt+boots and save 1 heraldry to craft wrist or something else later is what most of us here did week 1

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with arcanoweave embellishment on the belt/boots

alpine scarab
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ah right thanks, will look into doing the same

alpine scarab
#

boots give 2 random stats, so them?

potent pivot
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u have to supply missives with the stats

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buy all low rank materials for pvp crafts

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silver rank missives, embellishments, and reagents

alpine scarab
#

i'm confused man, what do you mean by supply missives? sorry i'm so out of the loop with wow these days

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i've currently got all the mats needed to craft the boots, but i need more to actually get the stats?

potent pivot
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when you do crafting order crafts

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u can supply the materials

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yes u need a missive

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from the auction house

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there are missives that have every combination of stats

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so u buy the one with the 2 stats u want and add it to the crafting order

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same with the embellishments

alpine scarab
#

ahh ok i understand, thanks

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Is this correct for Sub?
Agility > Versatility > Mastery > Critical Strike > Haste

potent pivot
alpine scarab
#

lmao, the icyveins sub guide is trash then

spring bough
#

avg blitz que less than 10 minutes right now pretty good for a weekend

potent pivot
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ignore like the plague

alpine scarab
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noted

potent pivot
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i think there's a couple that are ok

alpine scarab
#

is there a trusted guide you can link that is good to follow mate?

potent pivot
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but many of them are made by a healer that doesn't play other specs

potent pivot
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and there's a stats command

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!stats

lethal roostBOT
#

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

potent pivot
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for sub you need a bare minimum of at least 200 haste (when scaled up to pvp ilvl)

alpine scarab
#

ok thanks, so i'll craft these items with vers and haste

potent pivot
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you can do ~200 haste or ~600 haste, the rest vers/mast

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you have to choose which haste breakpoint you want to play

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because if u craft belt/boots haste/vers, you will end up above the 200 haste breakpoint later

alpine scarab
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oh right, i get you

potent pivot
#

we can't choose the stats on our tier set, and some of those pieces have haste on them

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and the insignia pvp dps trinket has haste on it

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so you get to the 200 breakpoint organically

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if you want to go for the 600 breakpoint, then crafting haste/vers is fine

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but if you're just getting back to wow maybe keep it simple and do vers/mast

alpine scarab
#

yeah there's a shit load i need to learn, i'll go the simple route for now

potent pivot
#

do u know how to get tier set

alpine scarab
#

i have no idea 😂

harsh kiln
#

Are those stat values in pvp combat or outside of it?

potent pivot
#

oh boy

potent pivot
potent pivot
#

don't follow any video's items specifically, just learn the various gearing systems

alpine scarab
#

right now I'm running bgs to get honor gear and conquest points

potent pivot
# alpine scarab right now I'm running bgs to get honor gear and conquest points

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZRlQxKZNZY

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alpine scarab
#

will watch this, thanks

potent pivot
# alpine scarab will watch this, thanks

https://youtu.be/0u67-dsbHgY?si=hwVyAh7OTHBwcs7Y

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there's tons of em out there

alpine scarab
#

thanks mate, appreciate it 🫡

spring bough
#

Why do ques pop when I got stuff going on around the house 😭

alpine scarab
#

one last thing, what's a good commission to send for craft orders?

spring bough
#

1000 gold usually gets most

potent pivot
alpine scarab
#

there's no similar orders to check

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thanks

potent pivot
#

you can't see em pretty sure

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crafters see em

molten hedge
#

I played some assa shuffs ln. I feel like they’re always the quickest games

potent pivot
jolly sierra
#

done, full mop s2 elite xmog

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now lets wait like 10 more years to get classic xmogs in retail acc wide lol

spring bough
#

147,7k BTE no imp BTE

molten hedge
rough rock
molten hedge
#

I might need to get old details. I don’t like blizzards. They’re both dog shit

spring bough
severe helm
gleaming sentinel
severe helm
#

the default damage meter is so so so so so bad

molten hedge
molten hedge
#

That one was a blizz L

severe helm
#

fat fat L

molten hedge
#

Idt I buy zicores theory of they don’t want ppl flaming ppl bc details. I legit just think they fucked it up

severe helm
#

thats a bad theory

molten hedge
#

Yeah idt they’d purposefully be incompetent. If anything it’s on accident 😭

severe helm
#

most of the time when it comes to blizzard

#

the answer to why

#

is just incompetence

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or realistically lack of resources and poor leadership

#

but same same

potent pivot
#

they both show the same exact stuff

molten hedge
#

👀

potent pivot
#

details is basically just a skin now

#

and genuinely, the damage meter is so bad now regardless

molten hedge
#

I do think details has more things you can tinker with. I haven’t compared side by side but ik details had more to it than blizzards current one

potent pivot
#

start logging

#

the meter misses shit and shows some stuff just incorrectly in general

molten hedge
#

It’s so shit

severe helm
#

and window customization

#

visual customization

#

changing how numbers are displayed

#

changing formatting of them

molten hedge
#

So it still has the incorrect info

#

But it looks better?

severe helm
#

ofc

potent pivot
severe helm
#

thats provided by blizzard

#

cant fix that

potent pivot
#

and the performance hit from using details

severe helm
#

theres no performance hit lol

potent pivot
#

was the final nail in the coffin for me personally

severe helm
#

you on a toaster?

#

reduce its update frequency

#

you can do that

#

I have mine set to 1s

#

it costs 0 resources

potent pivot
#

at one point they had a bug and it was taking up a fucking gigabite lmao

severe helm
#

it used to when it stored lots of data

molten hedge
#

I did nahj’s lag optimization on my computer and it’s super fast now

severe helm
#

but now its pretty low

potent pivot
#

nah

#

the addon is poorly optimized

spring bough
#

still cant get over how bad the rogue elite set looks

#

normally id rock the new season mog but i cant its just so bad lmao

dark kernel
#

Whoever designed follower leveling to be this slow my god

#

Why is my Valera like level 33 even with power leveling still

gusty hedge
molten hedge
#

That’s the shit that’s monitoring his everything that he looks at sometimes. You only change 1 or 2 settings in that setting the boot from 0.5 to 1 iirc

gusty hedge
molten hedge
#

I used to load in at 0:45 lmao in arena now it’s like 0:57

#

Mvq Devourer just deleted 3 ppl lmfao

gleaming sentinel
#

Time for everyone to roll a dh

molten hedge
#

He did 1 mil to the three of them in one global loo

proven field
steady grail
#

damn why solo shuffle queue is so long ;c

spring bough
#

love a healer leaving in round 6 that coulda got a 3rd win >.>

#

spriest was in a melee lobby and bro was bound for an 0-6 and this healer decided to just afk out... lol

steady grail
#

once all the people conspired against me and my team lost on purpose so i dont go 6-0 xd

#

my healer and dps ltierally went in the middle and stayed afk

potent pivot
molten hedge
#

(for being a 10 year old computer)

spring bough
#

finally broke 2k on shuffle with the rogue

static holly
#

Cg 🎉

abstract stratus
#

can we get some remade t3ish sets that look good kthx

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novel karma
#

Frost dk pumping in the awc

potent pivot
#

1 recolor every season.

abstract stratus
#

cmon a recolored bonscythe would go HARD

#

and not the trash wrath version

potent pivot
#

Tru

#

I just think blizz has gotten too formulaic these days

abstract stratus
#

of all tiers to do remasters of t2 is so random

potent pivot
#

Well

#

T2 remake was actually asked for a good bit

#

Over the years

#

T2 pally set is a rly popular one

severe helm
spring bough
severe helm
#

Just one button on the addon

#

ALSO

#

I learned recently ghat

#

Shutting down your PC

#

Does not claim back memory allocation

potent pivot
severe helm
#

Have to do restart

#

I thought my game was broken for the past two weeks

#

Cuz my ram was just eaten all up

#

And shutting down didn't fix

#

But apparently restart is a harder shut down than shut down in terms of committed ram usage

#

Now my game runs great again

potent pivot
#

?

severe helm
#

Full fps in the middle of silvermoon

#

I'm a happy camper

potent pivot
#

How does an addon fix that

severe helm
#

Separate thing

#

Ellesui just does the good graphics settings and shit

#

That helped a good 30 fps

potent pivot
#

Ah

severe helm
#

I'm just saying separately I had this issue

#

That I couldn't figure out

#

Til recently

molten hedge
#

Nahj says out of everything the project lasso bitsum thing helps the most iirc

#

It just optimizes it by itself idk anything ab it I just trust his minmaxxiness

potent pivot
#

Recently HW Manager and zCPUID got infected with malware

#

(Free hardware monitoring programs)

untold lotus
#

hi team, for assa on shuffle mode are people mostly using zoldyck dtb? I just started on assa and have been having success with a dtb sd build so now I'm looking to optimize. I read another thread / the pins about zoldyck dtb/ zoldyck sd as the default builds but unclear if that was for shuffle or blitz. Thanks!