pvp

[severe helm]

I gotta share that around

[potent pivot]

It’s Mvq’s addon

[rough rock]

of course

[potent pivot]

He wouldn’t specify but we all know it is

Supposedly one of the addons is already approved by blizz

[rough rock]

I havent seen him crying on twitter recently

[severe helm]

I thought blizz doesnt allow selling of addons though

or they just probably found a way around those rules ig

[potent pivot]

…yep

[stoic spruce]

Addon black market isnt something I expected but I'm not exactly shocked either

[rough rock]

I would imagine is worked around by saying youre paying a dev instead of a product

Almost like a tip

[potent pivot]

Blizz even said before that if it’s not publicly available then it’s against tos

So I don’t get it

[severe helm]

yeah

but setup isnt

so you can have a config setup file

that costs money

[rough rock]

Yeah but if youre paying a dev friend i can see where the difference is

[severe helm]

its very easy to subvert afaik

[potent pivot]

Kinda kills the hype of awc entirely ngl

They’re playing a legit tank necklace on outlaw

Looks like a pve tank embellishment neck

For an absorb

[grave pier]

is there an addon or smth to show that im getting casted on?

[potent pivot]

There’s multiple ways to see who a cast is being casted on

I don’t think there’s an “alert” though if that’s what you mean

You should be able to see who the target of a cast is on target/focus frames, and on the caster’s nameplate

[dark kernel]

Its baseline is sArena now

Too

[severe helm]

have to use the eyes addon

[quick temple]

reminded me of Kollektiv's old alert addon

but nah nothing iirc like this anymore

[potent pivot]

Ye arena core as well pretty sure

There’s another addon that makes all cast bars show it

I need to put it in the addon pin

[potent pivot]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/insaneforpvp

Here it is

[quick temple]

oh thats neat

[potent pivot]

Ye that one’s rly good

Recommend everyone use it tbh

[outer sky]

Lmfao this addon purge was such a fail

Even if didn't think they'd fail this bad

[grave pier]

oh sweet what does this do

[proven kayak]

Hope would’ve be total purge

[potent pivot]

[potent pivot]

Open it and read

[proven kayak]

I mean it makes you better if you know the CDs yourself

[marsh yacht]

Platynator (and others I’m sure) put target on the nameplate which is nice

[potent pivot]

Ya

I use Platynator

[proven kayak]

I never used anything than drs Ominicc and arena plates

[abstract stratus]

bbp master race

[potent pivot]

Betterblizz is unnecessary now imo

[proven kayak]

Hope blizzard could make it themselves

[potent pivot]

All the stuff Betterblizz was good for got removed

[marsh yacht]

I used bbp for a long time

[rough rock]

undead rogue LETS GOOOOOOOO

oh wtf it was bugged

[rough rock]

i felt this way till i tried platy and im never going back

[potent pivot]

Yep

[abstract stratus]

tried platy and didnt like it at the beginning of expac

[dark kernel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/s/AXRgl5ghqg

[potent pivot]

Other addons just do everything betterblizz can do, but better

[marsh yacht]

Easily visible target of target, and separate styles for my team vs enemies is what sold me on platy I think

[abstract stratus]

i came from elvui nameplates so these just work for my brain

[potent pivot]

Give a good Platy profile a try sometime

[abstract stratus]

where is there a good platy profile

[potent pivot]

In my message history

Sec

[proven field]

LOL - good for him... also... jesus christ Blizz

[potent pivot]

#pvp message

I think that’s it

[gusty hedge]

[quaint cedar]

Can someone tell Whaazz to not play outlaw in AWC anymore? I'm tired of this dumbass tournament getting us nerfed

[potent pivot]

There’s nothing left to nerf bud

Lol

[stoic spruce]

Silly trickz

[quaint cedar]

nonsense

blizzard always finds a way to nerf rogue

especially outlaw

[stoic spruce]

The undefeated % knows not defeat

[abstract stratus]

platynator actually broke my np profile after disabling it and going back to bbp lmfao

[potent pivot]

You didn’t have your profile saved?

[abstract stratus]

its fine it made nameplates size in blizz settings 5 for somereason

so my scaling was completly broken until i changed it back

[potent pivot]

Ah

[gleaming sentinel]

ok whos selling the elite hax addon package?

[potent pivot]

Hopefully they get banned

[proven field]

oh shit I didn't even realize I took doomblade off - fuck me in the goat ass, Blindside finally got me

[dark kernel]

If blizzard would ever Perma ban again that would be amazing

I know people say they do but I rarely see it

[potent pivot]

It usually only happens after a season is over to cheaters/traders etc

It’s just not announced anywhere

[outer sky]

It happened to Kaylux last season

[potent pivot]

You sure she wasn’t just removed from the ladder?

Like are the characters gone

And what about the DH guy that was win trading her

[severe helm]

Yeah it seems to catch at least a few per season

Everyone always claims "rmt" when they get banned but I assume a chunk of that has to be wintrading

[potent pivot]

Mhm

[dark kernel]

Wym she's playing every day still

[outer sky]

maybe on a new account

[dark kernel]

And also this women literally was Flagrantly cheating and bragging about it publicly

[outer sky]

yeah lmao

[dark kernel]

She put an actual cross hair on herself

[outer sky]

if she didnt get banned

nobody would

[dark kernel]

Yeah like idk

[potent pivot]

Like lolz guys r1 shuffle is so ez

Just have a simp afk matches for you duh

[rough rock]

https://x.com/altertimesk/status/2042648807322849363?s=46&t=9LYSSmKHQoj4DH5q_SF5PA

AlterTime (@AlterTimeSK)

¡WeakAuras vuelve a World of Warcraft!

M33kAuras trae de vuelta este mítico addon intentando mantener las mismas funciones que ya conocemos

https://t.co/FFed5vJ4A4

X · Apr 10, 2026, 5:00 PM

[potent pivot]

Ye old news

It’s not the same as actual WeakAuras

[stoic spruce]

The definition of "actual weakauras" is different now bucko

[jolly sierra]

a friend of mine got perma banned cuz the acc did a false positive during lemix

blizz never bothered in helping in appeals

[stoic spruce]

Fake positive?

[potent pivot]

They got banned for something they didn’t do

[stoic spruce]

Oh

Rip

[dark kernel]

That's a weird one I haven't heard before

[molten hedge]

She’s back on another account afaik

[potent pivot]

Ye ofc

Any streamer that gets banned just buys a new acc

[molten hedge]

Yeah. I know someone who queues with her sadly

Couldn’t be me man f that

[potent pivot]

I wonder if they even lose anything

Like achievements/tmog

[molten hedge]

Good question. I have 2 accounts on one bnet and ik mounts save

[potent pivot]

Since all wow licenses on 1 bnet share that stuff too right

[dark kernel]

As long as they sync them all to the same Battle.net no

That's why there's a literally no punishment

[potent pivot]

Rofl

So basically a perma ban is just -$75

How sad

[molten hedge]

But some mounts don’t share like ones purchased with money. I don’t have my brutosaur

[dark kernel]

In dragonflighr they changed the way accounts work because people would just make a new account get Gladiator on it and sell it to somebody so they could just sync it

[potent pivot]

Lmfao

[potent pivot]

I think this is still a thing in a way tbh

[dark kernel]

I mean I do have some friends who would know

I don't think it works as well anymore

[potent pivot]

You can still xfer characters between bnets

[dark kernel]

Yeah but it doesn't transfer any of the achievements or a rewards anymore

[potent pivot]

Which is what I thought they got rid of

[dark kernel]

I have a super old legacy account and they told me it would be useless to transfer cuz I wouldn't get anything from it

[potent pivot]

What about pvp rewards in bags

Cuz that’s usually how it’s still advertised

[dark stump]

sometimes pve is scary

[dark kernel]

I do not believe they carry over anymore is the thing

[proven field]

hrm.. Poison Bomb doesnt have it's own line item either on details, that's a bummer

[potent pivot]

Ye basically everything has become baked in passives

Can’t see shit on details

Gotta check combat log or log arena to WCL

I think everyone is too lazy to log tho

[jolly sierra]

seems like if you are a newcomer and level too fast as that version was intended u get permabanned

[proven field]

sucks because how do I tell if doomblade is better than poison bomb for example 🙁

[gusty hedge]

under same bnet email not a brand new email/benet

[jolly sierra]

how tf they are not from moon guard

[dark kernel]

Yeah you can no longer purchase an account and merge it under your own battlenet anymore

You can keep it separated, but you cannot have it on your primary account

Which is what most people want

[outer sky]

Blitz lol and she's not even hot. She looks like E.T. if he got run over by a truck

[outer sky]

I installed this but it's not doing anything

[potent pivot]

Ah

[potent pivot]

Might have something overlapping it

[jolly sierra]

what a roast KEK

[outer sky]

These are all my addons. Any likely culprits?

[dark stump]

all raid 0 loot

this is why i hate pve

[jolly sierra]

i hate pve cuz loot system as df readded rolling

[potent pivot]

Try turning BBF off and see if that works

[jolly sierra]

perso loot was better for unlucky ppl

[final dew]

having DR timers showing on nameplates is quite possibly the next best thing since sliced bread. What an absolute game changer.

[potent pivot]

Idk if sweepyboops would interfere or not either

[dark stump]

a guy with 267 ilvl shoulder rolling on 264 tier set shoulder

same shit with weap

no roll of mine was above 40

now i understand why i never tried D&D

[jolly sierra]

lemme show u something happened yesterday

[dark stump]

[jolly sierra]

we killed l'ura in lfr and was the moment to roll, this was the second curio, everything right, k?

there is an afk ret watching the cinematic

this happened once he finished

[dark stump]

xD

[gusty hedge]

that jeffreystien guy again
lol wow W Ret

[jolly sierra]

jeffrey tried his best buying the curios

what a fucker

[dark stump]

xaryu saying that mm and ret are the class loved by blizz and not mage in pve

biggest cao

cap*

[jolly sierra]

ret is indeed blizz's spoiled child

[dark stump]

ret true

mm hell no

[jolly sierra]

they never are bad for too much time

in DF s1 for most time they were shit

[dark stump]

who ? mm?

[jolly sierra]

and they blessed it with probably the biggest deux ex machina ever done in wow

no, ret

[dark stump]

ret need a full rework

[jolly sierra]

DF s1 ending was fkn crazy w rets

[dark stump]

this thing is illegal

even tough i would prefer being against a full pala lobby than a shammy + druid (root + cyclone)

[jolly sierra]

the full rework was already done in DF

[pearl bane]

nah

[dark stump]

i consider DF nearly the same as SL

a mistake

[final dew]

how are people getting Radiance Craftedd gear? this dude has full 284 +

[gilded gulch]

do pve

[potent pivot]

You get myth crests from winning pvp games past a certain rating

Iirc

[gilded gulch]

or that

myth crests are 2100+ iirc

[severe helm]

Or just keys

10s are comically easy

Can get myth crests without too much effort

[gilded gulch]

12 probably easier than 10 this week

alot of pugs fumble the dispel heal absorb

[rough rock]

Gotcha

[jolly sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToNKRZuC3Gw

[final dew]

anything i can craft with these mats?

[potent pivot]

You really don’t need to worry about doing pve crafts

But no I don’t think you can craft anything worth

With those

[final dew]

just figured 285 pve crafted is better than 274 pve - is it not?

[potent pivot]

Yes but it’s more effort than it’s worth for most people

If you aren’t 2100+ then you’d have to go progress pve

You will be full 289 pvp ilvl eventually

[final dew]

just want anythign i can get to help offset my poor skill lol

[potent pivot]

A couple higher ilvl pieces of gear will not do that

[final dew]

i got up to 1450 last night, getting better, but have not been able to adopt keybinding

forever limmited

[potent pivot]

You’re clicking?

[final dew]

100%, since 2008

[potent pivot]

You 100% need to be worrying about keybinding all of your abilities before you worry about literally anything else

[gilded gulch]

Probably worse to click on rogue

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/church-baby-praise-worship-feel-the-spirit-gif-4710252430037780529

[gilded gulch]

than most classes

[potent pivot]

You may as well be in full grey gear if you’re clicking

[final dew]

i have never encountered too many issues as a clicker, and have been 1900 before on Enh and warrior. But it aint working for rogue. Thats for sure

[gilded gulch]

could have been 2.1 actually keybinding probably

[potent pivot]

I’m really not trying to sound rude here, genuinely

[gleaming pawn]

Almost like both those classes are brain dead to play 🙂

[potent pivot]

But you’re trolling yourself so unbelievably hard

[gilded gulch]

warrior is hard wdym

random dr stormbolt

[jolly sierra]

i did it when i was a teenager

[gilded gulch]

for no reason

average warrior player

[jolly sierra]

the difference is huge

VERY HUGE

[final dew]

im fully cucking, but i know no other life

[outer sky]

If youre having trouble with key bindings, get a 12 button MMO mouse. I was a clicker until I got mine many moons ago.

The only things you should be clicking are like

Shroud

Lock pick

shit like that

[gilded gulch]

i click my poisons

[final dew]

Ive tried a naga trinity, both wired and wireless. razor tartarus v2, azeron cyro, cyborg, trackball, etc

[outer sky]

thats fine too

[outer sky]

Idk man but you gotta do something.

clicking is such a bad habit

[rough rock]

i tried those mouses and god they are awkward

[gleaming pawn]

This went from insane to ragebait

[outer sky]

I couldnt do it without one

[gleaming pawn]

This guy has a Naga and a Tartarus and is clicking all his buttons

I call bullshit

[final dew]

cant seem to make the time to learn an entirely new different way to play. for 18 years I've clicked. And like right now, i really want to hit 1600 for the extra catalyst

[rough rock]

i mainly play fps shooters so thats kinda why

[terse cedar]

Do you even need an mmo mouse? I just started playing and im on a 60% keyboard, I just use shift buttons, alt buttons and cntrl and the keys are pretty easy to press since theyre all close together

[potent pivot]

I use a different mouse for other games

[molten hedge]

I needed like 2 wins on my monk earlier and queued with an rdru that was 300-800 in 2s at 1300 bruh 💀💀💀

[outer sky]

You dont need it

[final dew]

Im not BS though lol

[outer sky]

but to some people like me

it helps a lot

[final dew]

i fully admit, clicking is a hinderance, but its what im good at

ive bought all the hardware hoping the switch to binding woudl be easier, but negative

[outer sky]

you can be the best clicker ever and still be sub par compared to an average player with keybinds

[gleaming pawn]

So you spent around $300 USD on peripherals whose only purpose is to have better keybinds so you aren’t clicking, only to click your buttons?

[terse cedar]

I just thought youd fat finger having so many buttons to push with only your thumb

[proven field]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-insane-saturday-night-live-thats-wild-thats-crazy-unbelievable-gif-23823805

[outer sky]

Non issue with my G600

[final dew]

More like over $600 lol

[proven field]

Legit you most be moving your hands so fast

[proven field]

Trying to balance mouse clicking and camera

[final dew]

youd think that...but i WASD only for turning

[rough rock]

My issue tbh

then again i only gave it a shot for a few days

Im so used to light fps mouses

[terse cedar]

exactly, same with me

[proven field]

What do those matrix gloves do

[final dew]

That could very well be exactly what i am, and your statement is still true. I admit it

[gusty hedge]

just gotta go in head first! if you move with w a s d should be a bit easier from there. binding stuff around those like r t f c g etc + shift modifiers

[proven field]

My new mouse was 20 grams heavier - 20 GRAMS.. and my fucking hand cramped

[outer sky]

LMAO bro heres mine

[potent pivot]

Nah it’s actually very easy to use all the ones I’ve tried

[olive sequoia]

how is sub rogue DS ?

[potent pivot]

It’s “fine” but everyone is mainly sticking to trickster still

[olive sequoia]

tyty

[final dew]

sent a ss of you action bar setup or keybindings list if you can. It really just doesnt click for me when trying to setup bindings.

[outer sky]

sure sec

[potent pivot]

[rough rock]

"a1 a2"

im boutta plug in my flight stick and show you all a real mouse

[potent pivot]

Sometimes you have to want to help yourself before others can help you

[final dew]

Hence the religious and repeated attempts to learn binding, reasearching and buying hardware that enables easier keybindings, spending the time to bind bars, leveling charaters from 1 just to slowly learn and bind there moves

However, much like a H head, i always find my way back to clicking due to skill gap

[proven field]

I mean there’s glads with trackballs so maybe he can make it work but man.. you should put an apple watch on and just see how much movement happens

[potent pivot]

You don’t need any of those things

Just a keyboard

[final dew]

watching myself play in slowmo is kinda nauseating tbh. I dont think about the movements, they just happen

[outer sky]

I might need to make a focus garrote macro now that Indiscriminate Carnage is gone

[proven field]

I guess if you can memorize and stay ahead of gcd you could get pretty close maybe

[final dew]

how do you even move with binds like that haha. my hand woudl be on the opposite side of the KB

[outer sky]

1 through = is under my thumb

[final dew]

ahh

[proven field]

Glunk - if you play an fps game on pc how do you handle weapons load outs etc

[final dew]

xbox controller

[proven field]

Really

I dunno lol you like doing things a certain way

You could hit duelist on a controller before you did on clicking

Few streamers who controller

[final dew]

Again i totally understand the keybinding is inherently faster, and im not against it

have you ever tried clicking?

[outer sky]

Just saying, my whole "rig" cost like $750 and I get glad every season. BUT I don't click

[potent pivot]

It’s not just “faster”

[final dew]

1v1 me foo

[potent pivot]

It also opens up being able to look at everything else going on as well as loads of other shit

[final dew]

That too - thats why i was just saying that seeing DR timers on nameplates has been a huge help for me

[potent pivot]

You’re basically playing the game at 25% capacity when you click

[proven field]

Gcd means speed isn’t even really big thing, not bifurcating your mind and actions makes huge difference

[final dew]

i think my biggest issue is actually only keyboard turning, and target swtiching. Those alone cost me many arenas, admittedly

[proven field]

Yeah you can’t use the camera

[gusty hedge]

i started out clicking , and went to a gaming cafe which drew a crowd of people behind my bro and i, since then we changed for the better

[final dew]

i would be 5k rated then with bindings

[proven field]

I think it’s just you are a console gamer who happens to console game on a PC

[final dew]

JS its not as easy as "just switch to bindings, be better". 18 years of constantly doing something, and be good at it, is hard to give up

[proven field]

Most of us grew up typing and OG PC gaming so typing is ingrained

[gusty hedge]

start by switching ur movement and use Wasd and also move with your mouse bly clicking both buttons kek

[final dew]

I also only type with my pointy fingers, if that helps paint the picture lol

[proven field]

It is not surprising, I think we can all agree

Are you using arrow keys

Or WASD

[final dew]

negative - WASD

[gusty hedge]

strafe left and strafe right for your A and D

[proven field]

ok so you’re better than some… start by using 1-5 to press your five favourite abilities

[rough rock]

i hate using 1234 for main rotation like a lot people so i do this

[proven field]

Or shit just buy an MMO mouse

Don’t click or type just go full thumb-fu

[rough rock]

1-5 is like classic andy to me

[gusty hedge]

alot of people hate using 1234?
never heard of this

[rough rock]

i meant alot of people like it

i never have

[final dew]

the azeron cryo was supposed to be the thing, mouse and a ton of bindings. But its been difficult to learn

[rough rock]

it feels weird

[proven field]

Razer Naga

[olive sequoia]

this is with 2 button mouse and just keyboard

[proven field]

I guess good thing is you can PvP while eating a hot dog

[final dew]

i have the wired and wireless trinity - my thumb doesnt cooperate lol

[rough rock]

i get the same way with those

[gusty hedge]

quickest 1234 + shift modifiers without going too far from your movementkeys got 2 buttons on mouse like bte and focus

[proven field]

I actually think it’s because you can’t type

[gusty hedge]

maybe a hand size diff too

[proven field]

I bet if you hit up a typing tutor website for a bit you’d find much easier

[rough rock]

ill have to send my outlaw ones it looks even funnier

my front mouse button is for SS and its abused as hell xD

[final dew]

130 WPM certified lol

[rough rock]

Its usually my crouch button for the shooters i play

buddy never gets a day off

[proven field]

Wait with two fingers? Didn’t you say you tippy tappy type

[final dew]

correct

[proven field]

You do 130 wpm with two fingers

[gusty hedge]

my A and D keys were worn the fck down pretty much rubbed off u can almsot feel the switches

[final dew]

pointys and middling fingers only, yes lol

[proven field]

I dunno man, god has a plan for you

[rough rock]

hahaha me too dude even when coding i still average around 130 as well

no idea why

im so used to it

[final dew]

yeah, permanently great at doing things the hard way

[rough rock]

Everytime i work on a project with someone they always cringe xD

meanwhile im outtyping them speedwise

[final dew]

thats most of what i do - coding, documentation, etc. all day

[proven field]

How you gonna be 130wpm but can’t just type 1,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,1,2,2

[rough rock]

that i agree with haha

[proven field]

You code so you gotta be used to windows shortcuts

This exact Sam thing

[final dew]

i challenge a lifetime or long time keybinder to learn clicking while still enjoying the game lol

its a full mental shift

[proven field]

half this channel have AI girlfriends, we fine clicking when we have to

[final dew]

Just imagine my enemies sadness when they get beat by a clicker

[proven field]

Except they’ll never know because you don’t type in game lol

[outer sky]

Because right now all it is is imagination

keybind and youll win

[final dew]

Lock in and 1v1 me. Ill take on any of yall for fun

[gleaming sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/norm-macdonald-sports-paper-gif-19250136

[runic laurel]

thats like finding a stranger walking down the street and challenging them to crawl on their knees for a day cause u crawl on ur knees and want to twist it into a weird superiority thing ig? not sure what this would prove. like congrats or something idk

[final dew]

I really do just need to stop trying to do arean and take a season off to learn bindings

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/hanma-yujiro-yujiro-laugh-yujiro-hanma-laugh-gif-25038383

[outer sky]

It's Yuengling and Miller Lite. I don't drink Bud Lite

[proven field]

Don’t take anything off just play lol

Nothing safe in rogue PvP chat

[potent pivot]

Ew

[runic laurel]

dont listen to him, only bud lite will leave rings so ur in the clear if its other beers

[outer sky]

Miller ain't let me down yet

[final dew]

Light beer only gang

[outer sky]

Yuengling isn't a lite beer

[final dew]

Then you're not part of the gang 🙁

[proven field]

See he can PvP

[potent pivot]

Yeungling is ok

Miller is disgusting

[outer sky]

Its the best of the lite beers IMO

[quick temple]

you can just use wowarenalogs

[potent pivot]

Most lites are disgusting

[proven field]

Michelob Ultra doesn’t make you bloat

[spring bough]

Guinness

[outer sky]

My wife drinks those

[potent pivot]

I think the only lite I could do back in the day was corona

Everything else is just piss water

[proven field]

She a cool lady

[outer sky]

"Back in the day" bro you're my age

[final dew]

Bud>dos>miller>corona>.....any IPA (very last)

[potent pivot]

I don’t drink anymore is what I mean

Haven’t for a long ass time

[outer sky]

I quit for a year

worst year of my life

But even I don't drink as much as I used to

[potent pivot]

Pretty sure I haven’t had more than 1 glass of something in like 5+ yrs

[final dew]

My parents taught me to never be a quitter, I i cant give it up

[outer sky]

That's nothing man. I quit smoking back in 2020 and it was hard af. I was out here thinking it would be easy. Because, my dad did it like 9 times when I was growing up. Figured for sure doing it once would be no problem then!

[final dew]

Lifetime malb red smoker here until 2 years ago when my son was born

Easy to quit then

[outer sky]

I'm jk I never smoked

sometimes I have a cigar

like 5-7 per year

if that

[potent pivot]

[final dew]

Clicking and calorie counting

[outer sky]

Ah yes, the healthy choice

ok guys I need to tell you something

[proven field]

You play with blindside - I knew it and I’m proud of you

[potent pivot]

He’s coming out of the closet

[proven field]

Name change to bicore

[outer sky]

A few years ago I went to a work meeting at this really pretentious health food restaurant at the request of the client. And he ordered a drink so I figured that was permission for me to order one too. So I ordered a Jack and Coke and the server says "sorry we don't serve soda here it's against our business values to always be healthy".

And I'm like "wait what so I ordered a Jack and Coke and you cant do it because the coke is unhealthy but you could serve me the Jack??"

and the guy's like "yeah well we gotta make money on drinks somehow"

idk I always thought that was funny

dont mind me im tipsy

[proven field]

If only there was another way to make money with drinks

“What if we let kids drink just a little bit of jacks” “Frank..” “it would be half price!” “No Frank”

[final dew]

Ordering drinks during lunch, on business, with clients - i too like to live dangerously

[proven field]

When you let them order first and just copy them

[final dew]

Of course

[proven field]

“Shit he got a club soda” “…make it two” “eww”

[final dew]

@potent pivot beat me in 2/3 duels and ill throw my mouse in the trash can and learn keybindings

[proven field]

Had a high value client - said I have $200 per person to take him out and asked if he liked anything in particular - naming every fancy place in town

[outer sky]

I'll take that

[proven field]

Know what he picked?

[final dew]

Otherwise, im gonna live stream you losing to a clicker on Twitch for my 2 followers

[outer sky]

I'll take it and if you win I'll also give you 300k gold

[proven field]

Dude just wanted his own family bucket of chicken from KFC - I spent two hours in KFC pitching him

Think it’s like… 20 pieces? Just insane

[outer sky]

deal

you on?

[final dew]

Negative - gotta make dinner and wind down the kids for bedtime in 3 hours

[runic laurel]

[final dew]

But, I can make the time in like 45ish if your down

I'm on Tichondrius if it matters

[proven field]

There is no downside - lose, and you keep on clicking

Win? Zicore basically has to go play lord of the rings online

[outer sky]

Convenient

[final dew]

Wait 45min

[outer sky]

That is the downside

[final dew]

Get warm, do so skirms

You gonna need it

[outer sky]

Thinkin' i'll be aight

[proven field]

I dunno I killed you in that BG

[molten hedge]

Bro what did I miss lmao

We gotta clicker?!?

[outer sky]

Not for long

[final dew]

Im just messing around lol you absolutely should beat me, but im curious to see the skill gap from 1450 to 2k+

But I absolutely will take your gold if I win

[molten hedge]

Oh dude he would destroy you

[proven field]

I dunno if you’ll get a hit off

[molten hedge]

Good luck

[proven field]

But I’m rooting for you

[outer sky]

I mean rogue v rogue really should be pretty scripted. Whoever gets stunned first technically should lose

[proven field]

Does partied teammates show in stealth still? Could just do that - kind of like a joust

100 yards apart

Then go

[outer sky]

Not in duels

[proven field]

Oh bummer, they used to :/

[outer sky]

when I duel my other rogue friends we usually agree who gets the opener in advance but the catch is the one getting opened on gets to feint the stun

[final dew]

Technically with a rating 40% over mine, if I get him to 59% health, is that a win?

[proven field]

Are you running sub?

[final dew]

You know what, ima get on rn before I make dinner

Where you wanna meet?

[proven field]

Kick his ass, Seabass!

[outer sky]

pvp area in silvermoon

are you horde or ally?

[final dew]

Horde

[outer sky]

mm

whats your btag

[proven field]

Post screenshots after

[final dew]

PM me ill send it

I'd PM you but idk how

[outer sky]

sent

Round 1

[final dew]

1-0 Zicore

[jolly sierra]

play blindfolded like pshero

[lime oar]

this is amazing

[gusty hedge]

i saw this name zoidburg in a bg yesterday so thats you

[outer sky]

he got me

1-1

[potent pivot]

Cap

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/warcraft-orc-wow-blizzard-smile-gif-12610231

tf

[outer sky]

I refused to trinket

the first stun

and just died in it

[potent pivot]

Man has a sequence macro

With drums, raid pots, flasked up, augment runed,

[gusty hedge]

peepin from the sidelines or screenshare

[rough rock]

https://tenor.com/view/n3gat1ve-simon-gif-22685414

"oh nice"

[gleaming sentinel]

300k

[potent pivot]

That or this is just a troll and they have binds

[outer sky]

ok

2-1

nah i just greeded trinket

he was hitting a training dummy

but I won

[gleaming sentinel]

300k

[final dew]

he greeded and i got well timed blind

no, i owe him a mouse

[rough rock]

@gusty hedge

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/dafuq-wtf-what-the-fuck-the-fuck-the-fuck-is-this-gif-16936456

[rough rock]

best macro in the world

[gusty hedge]

u werent cappin either xD crazy

[outer sky]

3-1

[final dew]

no CDs, for shits and giggles lol

[spring bough]

Ngl those binds are wild to me

[gusty hedge]

looks like we got ourselves a new keybinder!

[rough rock]

yeah and 1-5 binding is weird for me

ive always been that way with mmos

[outer sky]

4-1

[final dew]

gds

[outer sky]

arite so no more clicking

[final dew]

c'rect

[outer sky]

I clipped the 1st one if anyone wants to see it

@molten hedge

[final dew]

why not the seconds one tho

[gusty hedge]

this teh one we wanna see

[final dew]

and you didnt say that i let you open on the 3rd and 4th duels <.<

[gusty hedge]

2nd

[outer sky]

not the 3rd

you tried to fan me out

and I stunned you

[final dew]

idk

pretty sure i let you open

either way

[outer sky]

mhmm

[final dew]

check this out

[rough rock]

[outer sky]

eh ya got a lucky gib on my 1/5 games it happensssss

[rough rock]

https://x.com/mysticalthemonk/status/2042746684615078070?s=46&t=9LYSSmKHQoj4DH5q_SF5PA

Justin (@MysticalTheMonk)

With this addon, I now have the exact UI I had before Midnight, but with way less function

Great addon for tracking DRs on nameplates!

https://t.co/P2OI6S1dvx

X · Apr 10, 2026, 11:28 PM

lol

gg

[final dew]

Bet

[outer sky]

jeez man you didnt have to do that

you still need a mouse LOL

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-11650643656289713807

[potent pivot]

So many fucking DR addons now my god

[final dew]

To be fair, I had no idea dude was ass

Very difficult to counter as sub

And to his credit, he aight

[gusty hedge]

this is mine pretty much for the most part

[rough rock]

we actually won

[final dew]

Duel me later Rune

[rough rock]

blade rush honestly feels so good

[rough rock]

[final dew]

God dammit another assass

[rough rock]

outlaw

[final dew]

Hmm

I dont think I've 1v1 a single outlaw this xpac

[rough rock]

300 goblin kites

buddy is taking no chances

[final dew]

Pretty sure ill sauce you up

[gusty hedge]

[rough rock]

my sub is geared too

[gusty hedge]

tww s3 outlaw

[jolly sierra]

what the heck

[gusty hedge]

goated

[jolly sierra]

did he just bursted the fkn mouse?

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-smile-nod-nodding-ron-swanson-parks-and-rec-gif-39125060506973541

bro got extra mouse money

[jolly sierra]

that is fair but

who expected him to be that literal

XD

[final dew]

I live my word

I will bind

[graceful ravine]

you ....couldnt cut the first 90 secs out where yall both sitting in stealth trying to find each other lmao

i want my time back

[outer sky]

You clicked on a rogue v. rogue duel man you should have known what you were signing up for lmao

[covert tusk]

I am new to Sub rogue and I have a few questions regarding pvp, very simple questions.

[potent pivot]

Sup

[final dew]

Ok so you 100% recorded the 2nd duel if you recorded the first. Cmon, post it

I grenadad' my mouse

[outer sky]

I really didnt

or I would

[covert tusk]

can we jump on discord?

[potent pivot]

Naw just ask away here

[covert tusk]

Nah sorry dont like texting

[graceful ravine]

Lmao

He just wants to hear your sexy voice

[outer sky]

trust me bro the people in this discord have seen me get beat harder than Chris Brown beat Rhianna I got nothing to hide lol

[final dew]

Bro just post it

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/hanma-yujiro-yujiro-laugh-yujiro-hanma-laugh-gif-25038383

[covert tusk]

takes too long to ask and get replies but sure ill try

[final dew]

Serry

I was once like you

Trust

Just post the damn question

Theses dudes will help

[covert tusk]

I just hit level 90 and want to know the best guide to get good pvp gear to startr off with, buying off AH or where to start

[graceful ravine]

or we will roast you

either or

[final dew]

They won't even let you pay (I tried)

[graceful ravine]

just farm battlegrounds for honor gear

[covert tusk]

What am trying to ask is, is there anything I can buy off AH

[potent pivot]

There’s a gear thread and a guide thread in the pins of this channel. Search a generic pvp gearing guide on YouTube as well.

[potent pivot]

Not really no. You will buy enchants and get gear crafted later.

Starting out there isn’t really anything you need off the AH

Except honor flasks maybe

To earn honor faster

[covert tusk]

Alright but what items to get with honor and what items to get with conquest

[gusty hedge]

Warcrate Group in LFG if you wann afarm conquest/honor/bloody token, withouth the Rng of W/L at no pvp gear,
get a Win off any bg/ebg for your 9 heraldries(crafted currency for conquest lvl gear)

[graceful ravine]

@outer sky have you played assa in bg blitz?

[outer sky]

yeah it's going okay-ish

[covert tusk]

Alright as I expected and thats exactly why texting will take an hour

nvm guys ill try to ask someone

[outer sky]

basically win 2/3 of my games

[graceful ravine]

how is it compared to TWW assa

do you still have big dam aoe

[potent pivot]

The gearing guide in the pins goes over what to buy with your first conquest ….

[outer sky]

No LOL

you do not team fight

[potent pivot]

It barely matters what you buy with honor

Just follow the stats your spec wants

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

• Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Haste>Crit
• Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
  You want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw to lower the GCD during Adrenaline Rush.
• Subtlety: Vers>Haste to 600-700>Mastery>Crit
  Sub now uses a haste threshold to extend Dance and shorten Secret Technique's CD.
  Sub haste rating chart:
  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923898501529600/1483399511836725378/image.png?ex=69bc6d33&is=69bb1bb3&hm=21db8524f3add252a5f7556c91a39c6d076b5cbf29926a0ff3de6f1dad996660&

[graceful ravine]

oof

[potent pivot]

Can’t help someone that can’t be helped I guess

[outer sky]

No AoE silence, no OG Crimson Tempest, and no Indiscriminate Carnage keeps you the fuck out of team fight

[graceful ravine]

bro queue up BGs to farm honor, thats all you need to do

[covert tusk]

Not really buddy just giving half answers doesnt help thats all

[graceful ravine]

theres no magical route around this

[covert tusk]

I am just not formulating my question properly, what am trying to know is if there are items you get off AH, or all from honor?

[outer sky]

All from honor

[potent pivot]

All from honor/conquest man

[potent pivot]

Being a dick doesn’t usually make people want to help you

Just saying

[covert tusk]

Bro why the hostility I am not being a dick

[graceful ravine]

tragic

[potent pivot]

There’s like 10 people here that’d be more than happy to help answer anything

[graceful ravine]

Queue battlegrounds, farm honor, buy honor gear, queue rated games, farm conq, buy conq gear

thats it

• craft 1-2 items

but 90% of it comes from Qs

[covert tusk]

So any BIS items that are craftable or all BIS from honor and conquest

[potent pivot]

Some stuff is crafted but you can’t buy it straight off the AH

[covert tusk]

you know thats exactly what I mean by half answer right

[graceful ravine]

https://murlok.io/rogue/subtlety/solo#gear

You can use this as a base

There are 1-2 crafted pieces

[gusty hedge]

we gave you the juice

selective reading or sum shit

[potent pivot]

Then look up a guide like I said

https://youtu.be/utOwAXJ8WVE?si=uA8iG7zH9Tpumz6_

Here

Instead of criticizing answers, put in a bit of effort

[covert tusk]

Thanks man thats actually very helpful

I do have one more question guys, do your attacks/spells hit harder when you are in stealth

[graceful ravine]

i really enjoyed assa in Blitz in TWW, big dam, good at 1v1s and typical rogue things like ninjaing bases

To top it off, sudden demise helps you snipe kills for flexing KDRs

[outer sky]

Yeah TWW assa was very well designed

[gusty hedge]

@rough rock Found an Old SS during BFA of my Ui and where i beat the #1 Rogue in a duel at the time

[potent pivot]

Not in stealth alone, no

Subs shadow dance for example, yes

There are a lot of niche interactions from talents around that type of thing

[covert tusk]

got it and when doing evasion + feint for example together do they soak more damage or its better to divide them

[potent pivot]

They stack in a way yes

It’s generally better not to overlap if you don’t have to

[covert tusk]

Thank you so much and finally which stuns do not break from damage

[potent pivot]

I’m assuming you mean CC not stuns

Because no stuns break from damage

[covert tusk]

I mean those spells in particular (Kidney Shot, Gouge, Blind, CheaP Shot)

[potent pivot]

Kidney and cheap shot are stuns

They don’t break

Everything else is other types of CC

[rough rock]

lol w

[potent pivot]

Everything else does break from damage, but some have a damage threshold before breaking

[rough rock]

had a blitz game where the healers refused to run flag and kept saying our prot pally needs to run it

:D

[covert tusk]

Thanks a lot for giving the time to answer boring and basic questions truly appreciate it

Do you actually agree guys that sub is the best build for pvp

[stoic spruce]

Yes

[covert tusk]

And should I follow icy veins for best talent tree

[stoic spruce]

No, the tree in the pins. Never ever use icy veins, not even for pve.

[dark kernel]

I haven't spent my conquest this week: I have technically 1025 in points (Have a Heraldry)

Do I: Make Crafted Haste/Vers CHest or just build Haste Trinket

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-no-fuck-no-absolutely-not-absolutely-fucking-not-gif-20904092

[dark kernel]

you know what

fuck it trinket

[jolly sierra]

i tried to do double alacrity just for curiosity as i was about to replace the trinket for a purple one

god dammit it didn't worked as did in former patches

[gusty hedge]

TBF tank should be running it! mf is useless

[gusty hedge]

one honor/1 conquest wworks

[jolly sierra]

it doesn't does separated shit anymore, just overrides each other with equal procs per minute

[jolly sierra]

tried lfr

shit didnt worked

oof

was just one or the other

not both as same time as usual

[gusty hedge]

thats a bummer then

[jolly sierra]

game is cooked

at least ferocity trinket w haste is still useful lolol

[covert tusk]

is there a macro that combines shadow dance with shadow blades and do you suggest it?

[gilded gulch]

or you can look at the tourney player builds for talents

granted they play low haste build

[gilded gulch]

why would you ever do that

[jolly sierra]

i am using the fkn ret

is getting my gold

w crusader aura

[covert tusk]

cuz I always want shadow blades to enhance my damage when my shadow dance are on to have the highest damage? or am I thinking wrong

[jolly sierra]

and killing ppl for competition

[gilded gulch]

yeah but you don't always want to blades opener

[covert tusk]

what do you mean

[gilded gulch]

you dont always blades your first go

[potent pivot]

Icy veins is insanely bad

[gilded gulch]

since when did icyveins do pvp stuff

🤨

[potent pivot]

Always

It’s just really bad right now

[jolly sierra]

shadenox did icy veins guide for some time

[rough rock]

Tricks should be the one writing those pages because its literally pvers who have no idea how pvp works

half of the info is ancient

[gilded gulch]

icyveins the last place i think to look for pvp info

[covert tusk]

If I want to do a macro to combine both shadow blades and shadow dance what would it be guys?

[jaunty osprey]

mini CC

[potent pivot]

Wouldn’t macro them tbh

[gilded gulch]

yeah

macroing those two kind of bad

you could macro orc racial to blades maybe

[potent pivot]

Good

Break it all

[potent pivot]

I’d just do trinket this week

[dark kernel]

i did it

[potent pivot]

[dark kernel]

Damn

Im actually kind of for blizzard hurting that shit again

i dont care if they do or dont

itll be fun

[rough rock]

"We dont know what we want with addons and since we cant figure it out baseline we will just make it awkward for everyone"

[stoic spruce]

That's what I'm getting too

[potent pivot]

It’s funny because cd tracking already doesn’t work well

The addons basically have to guess

I would rather them kill something that’s half assed like that

If they aren’t going to just open it up entirely

[rough rock]

WHY ARE PEOPLE ALLOWED TO QUE RATED WITH PVE GEAR MAN

WHY

[stoic spruce]

Because pve gear is bis for some specs at max ilvl

[rough rock]

250ilvl

[potent pivot]

Phony caponie

[stoic spruce]

and ur big

yknow

I think its funny how people say PvP is ignored when thats not at all the case

when in reality

its MISTREATED

Deliberately

which may be worse

I miss when the only attention it got was new sets every season (SL)

I MISS SHADOWLANDS

I WANT TO GRIND UNTIL MY EYES BLEED FOR POWER

@vocal surge Looking back, I would play SL Remix. As someone who didnt play Legion Remix, I think bar for bar SL had better mogs and mounts

The dungeons and raids are better too I think. Equal at least.

[potent pivot]

Cap cap cap cap cap cap

[stoic spruce]

nope nope nope

[potent pivot]

🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢

[stoic spruce]

for every good Legion set I can give you 2 good SL sets

[potent pivot]

Nathria was goated, and halls of atonement n some others

[stoic spruce]

double for mounts

[potent pivot]

But

[stoic spruce]

oh that

I think

[potent pivot]

Sanctum and jailer raids were so ass

Halondrus was amazing

Everything else was so ass

[stoic spruce]

Halondrus peak raid boss in wow

I said it

FUCK YOU

I SAID IT

Seplucher was good

it was heavily dependent on the class you played

like

Halondrus, my goat, was awful on unholy

I cant remember other fights tbh, it really stole the show

but I remember it was fun for the most part

jailer was fun

Sanctum was pretty alright as well

SL Remix would be sick

though I know that everyone would get 1 Legendary and it'll be bronze dragonflight themed

and then you spend all your time leveling it up

im just pissing myself off atp but the rewards would be sick

[rough rock]

like bro

[gleaming pawn]

They won’t let you queue for dungeons without a certain item level, zero reason you should be able to queue for Shuffle or Blitz without a specific pvp ilvl

[rough rock]

[severe helm]

outlaw honestly feels pretty fucking bad still haha

its mobility is so horrendous

and its so insanely squishy

[hazy monolith]

does mass invis allow a rogue team member to restealth?

[spare flare]

i wouldn't say the mobility is horrendous but the old problems with grapple still exist, like getting micro cced when you cast your grapple. it's pretty annoying that it just takes one of your charges for bad rng and without the old grapple speed it's pretty hard to cc healers that have above average reaction speed, especially priests. also not counting on the fact that if you want the old grapple cd (40sec with fatebound) you gotta let go of one of the 3 good choices in talent tree.

[proven field]

I know it's inflated but hey, pretty good little run so far this year for ole Poke

[severe helm]

for me its the lack of a root break

vanish cooldown is 300% longer than it was in tww

and yeah grapple being slower now means it gets stopped mid leap more often

[spare flare]

yeah it is pretty noticable when you face frost mages especially

[maiden gull]

NO! Outlaw is S+ Tier because Whazz played it!!11111 You noob

[keen fractal]

its really not that inflated think its been like 40mmr a week or something be proud of the 2k

[potent pivot]

Kinda is

Not to say that 2k isn’t dope, cuz it’s dope either way

[vague comet]

went 0-6 today

1800 - 1630

any advice

i dont understand how to play this game anymore

the amount of micro cc is the same as it was in tww

[last jasper]

Was one lobby away from a wep illusion.

Got a lobby with 2 rogues. Went 0/5. And on the last round, Blizzard decided to put the last nail in the coffin.

[potent pivot]

rip

[dark moon]

We go agane

[marble oasis]

Eyes of the eagle enchants have basically no benefit in pvp right? just slam mastery like the FAQ

[last jasper]

Yep. Literally cherry on top. Dc mid match.

[potent pivot]

isn't that a crit enchant?

crit is basically a dead stat in pvp across every spec in the game, you only take it if you're forced to take it basically

the only exceptions are if your spec/build interact with crit heavily enough, like outlaw/frost dk sometimes

[marble oasis]

it's the one that does 0.75% or 1.25% more crit damage each

i figured that would be the case. thought i'd ask comparing it to 29mastery

[dark stump]

as long pala still have his survivability , shammy his absurd burst , hunt invincibility to interrupt and druid bear form

this game will never be understood

[potent pivot]

@severe helm @outer sky @jaunty osprey LOL

[jaunty osprey]

I like that

It’s like old timers for LoL

Where you type in chat what time they used a summoner

or killed red/blue buff

[vague comet]

Went to play league and went on a lose streak there too

[jaunty osprey]

or dragon etc

[vague comet]

What a day

Probably should get some alcohol fuck this shit

[dark moon]

What was the point of pruning addons when they re-emerging

I actually enjoy the game more now

[stoic spruce]

To make it harder to have a good UI ig

[last jasper]

Same. Sad Blizzard dropped the ball here too.

[last jasper]

That's basically a fancy timer with an icon.

[potent pivot]

its basically like having as many stop watch macros as you want, except you have to click em

[last jasper]

https://youtu.be/8_Q1MXA4MKs?si=RfZA_WeJFXP51g8l

[potent pivot]

will likely be the only way to "track" enemy CDs after 12.0.5 fixes

[last jasper]

Jesus. He deserves npc for sure 😁

[potent pivot]

bro they hate this guy i'm pretty sure

[gleaming sentinel]

I cant explain the rage i would feel facing this

[last jasper]

I definitely would if he did this to me

Especially qa department

[dark stump]

hmm yeah , nerf war incoming

[stoic spruce]

I'm pretty sure I told y'all this the other day

[rough rock]

Me with 100+ blitz games still stuck in 1600 after peaking 1783:

[stoic spruce]

[last jasper]

Lmao

[stoic spruce]

I'm gonna abuse this

I'm so gonna abuse this

[last jasper]

Idk why tanks are still allowed on arena

[stoic spruce]

Because they pay a sub too

Removing the 14 tanks won't make arena better

[dark stump]

exclude them of arena with pala

would be the first time blizz make a good decision

[last jasper]

Bad argument

[dark stump]

and playing against a tank in arena make it better ?

imagine a druid tank outdamaging your dps ally in ss

https://giphy.com/gifs/2GjTdNHnmk2IM

[stoic spruce]

Bad thing to think is a problem

[stoic spruce]

That's not why arena sucks

[last jasper]

So when a guy is 1v2 ppl on arena with 0 chance is not a problem?

[stoic spruce]

You dumb bitch

I didn't say that's not a problem

[last jasper]

👀

[stoic spruce]

What he's doing is obviously

Bad

[last jasper]

Same goes for tanks

[dark stump]

neither is pve

[stoic spruce]

Idc about pve

Tanks are so few and far between it's honestly funny they stay in people's minds

[stoic spruce]

PvE sucks!

Now if you don't mind, I have to walk my plant and water my dog

[potent pivot]

he was abusing a bad interaction and 2 pve tank trinkets ...

[last jasper]

It's still no more than it should be. The spec is simply not designed for this bracket.

[stoic spruce]

Prot warr should have it's damage and healing redone as a dps spec in pvp

That would go rather hard I do declare

[last jasper]

They barely managed to balance DPS specs

I don't mind if they redesign them to be viable in arena. But in current state it's just frustrating to meet one

[stoic spruce]

I'd rather a tank than sub tbh

[jolly sierra]

u big meanie

[grave basin]

Just ban tanks in rated arena

Ooo noo my 12 tank mains oh nooo

[stoic spruce]

I'll accept in the terms we ban aub

Aub

[grave basin]

Who cares

[stoic spruce]

Sub

Wtf

[grave basin]

Tanks can queue for blitz where they actually have a purpose

In ctf

[stoic spruce]

Well I have a new purpose in 2s

I wonder what race I should be

HMT has aura

Tbh

[grave basin]

Worgen outlaw rog named useless

[stoic spruce]

Prot warr HMT named itchybuthole

Itchybuthol

[last jasper]

Still a bad argument.

[grave basin]

Whats the argument

[stoic spruce]

It's not an argument

That was just an opinion lol

You will feel the wrath of Itchybuthol

[dark stump]

the fact that i did all the boss in lfr and got 0 loot

[grave basin]

Next reset we should have 4pc

[dark stump]

a dk with shoulder 263 ilvl rolled on the tier set shoulder that were lower in ilvl

[stoic spruce]

I hate rolling for it, it's like having keys dangled above you

[grave basin]

Im gonna play the god class

M a g e

[dark stump]

oh i tought u meant pala

M a g e is fun

[grave basin]

Pala is god spec in shuffle

[dark stump]

compared to shammy and pala

[grave basin]

Ret*

Mage is a game wide god class

M+ raid shuffle 3s 2s

[dark stump]

jack of all trade , master of none

be like me play unholy dk

[last jasper]

Ah, got it. I thought we were having a discussion, not just exchanging personal preferences.

[stoic spruce]

I don't recommend that

[grave basin]

I geared up my uh dk and i cba with how hard countered it is atm

[dark stump]

even tough i hate what they did with arcane this expansion

[stoic spruce]

We were but I gave up

[dark stump]

well yeah some fcker from blizz dev team decided to hard nerf uholy dk

[grave basin]

Its not just that theyre nerfed

[stoic spruce]

90s goes are it's niche!

:D

[dark stump]

maybe i should lvl up mage after

[grave basin]

But hpal/ret/mw are so aids to play into

[dark stump]

but i'm too lazy maybe next time walking i will

[grave basin]

Mw just spins all the pets and does 150k hps

[dark stump]

MM is still something

[spring bough]

AOE blind again by the end of the month

Outlaw bout to make a huge comeback if it dodges AWC nerfs

[last jasper]

I did that twice a week. I starting to believe loot table is just a placeholder

[stoic spruce]

The loot table isnt real

It's MYTH

Perpetrated by big PvE to complete more raids

[dark stump]

i love tank in pvp

[last jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[stoic spruce]

I don't think sparing unholy nerfs would've save it tbh

[dark stump]

getting hit by a -20% of it's damage is still hard

[stoic spruce]

Absolutely

But it would've fallen out of favor overtime anyway