pvp

[potent pivot]

70-80 is like 100k or some shit tho

[spring bough]

Sounds like someone pulls the whole island lol

[potent pivot]

Just 1 hyper spawn spot

[spring bough]

Next two alts hunt and dk

Maybe enhance if the storm hero talents make a comeback lol

[severe helm]

aaaah

that kinda boost

gotcha

anyone know how to add 70-80 guides into follow the arrow?

is there like some 3rd party source where you need to upload them or do you add them on curseforge or something

[potent pivot]

No

[spring bough]

What class you doing

[potent pivot]

It doesn’t have them yet

[severe helm]

priest

[potent pivot]

Check his YouTube for the guide

[severe helm]

cool

ill do that

[spring bough]

Void disc? Gonna rip dmg lol

[severe helm]

I already have one

leveling second one

mmr too high in blitz cant queue

[gleaming sentinel]

always.

[potent pivot]

https://youtu.be/jUUA4QDsYbk?si=ZXZL_gvsIEb8e0Au

[severe helm]

beautiful

[spring bough]

30 min crazy quick lol

[potent pivot]

???

[spring bough]

[gleaming sentinel]

wat?

[lapis steeple]

Wat?

[potent pivot]

Wat?

[gleaming sentinel]

LOL

[lapis steeple]

Huh?

[severe helm]

the fuck just happen lol

I didnt even see them type it

[outer sky]

Aw I missed it??

[severe helm]

they were just talking about leveling

[potent pivot]

I deleted it

[severe helm]

ah

[lapis steeple]

Missed what

[outer sky]

Nothing. I missed nothing.

Because nothing happened

[spring bough]

[lapis steeple]

Yeah I’m confused too I didn’t see anything

[outer sky]

Gunna check the carbon monoxide detector in my house and see if its picking up anything

[lapis steeple]

After all, I’m in #pvp just because I love PvP so much and am looking to improve my gameplay, as we all are

[potent pivot]

[vocal surge]

Who wants to duel me

[outer sky]

I will

[vocal surge]

macho a macho rogue v rogue

lets go

[outer sky]

I dont see you online

[gilded gulch]

dueling outlaw should constitute bullying /j

[vocal surge]

Logging on now

was stabilizing my SC2 client lol

arcade game was slippin' n sliding almost crashing

[outer sky]

I am victorious

[vocal surge]

Aye

Assa v Outlaw

[outer sky]

won round 2 as well

[vocal surge]

WTB Outlaw buffs

[broken jewel]

I swear rated rbgs are 100% easier than random bgs with noobs, i swear on everything in life

it's not even funny anymore wtf is this absolute total mess of a game

gettting 2.4k is 100% easier than getting 1 win in each bracket daily, 100% not even trolling

8/10 players have 330k hp xd and they type tactics like you gotta bring carrots to the pot, my brother in christ u get 2shot by literally anything in the game xd. if a dove looks your way menacingly you flop over

[gilded gulch]

This is what you get for playing smelly horde.

[proven field]

You can carry normal BGs pretty hard though - EBGs are just a crap-shoot who gets a premade

[broken jewel]

sit in full duration stuns , get /lold on in rated

[gilded gulch]

yes stuns are generally how you land 90% of kills

i played cooking impossible the other day and just killed horde halfway to their pot

[broken jewel]

naa u can't whole enemy team is fully geared everyone's 430k-440k hp, they got rets, and boomies and guardian druids , you can't it's cope. you just stress out and make the game close for no reason and then you lose anyway and get mad you tried to play and not accepted the fact that the game's over

[gilded gulch]

and brought the vegetable to ours

[broken jewel]

point is. horde is literally report material, unplayable at this point

[proven field]

Oh Cooking Impossible is strangely literally impossible for horde; just give that one up

[gilded gulch]

why would anyone want to play horde

you gotta look at orcs

[broken jewel]

being positive here, just stating facts. it's actually 100% easier to go rated than this

[proven field]

I think my Cooking Impossible record as ally is like 297-1

[broken jewel]

i swear on my life 1900 solo shuffle 1st week is easier than getting a win in cooking imposible. and i'm not exagerating

[gilded gulch]

than do it

:)

holy yap

[proven field]

Depends on map - on flag maps you can carry almost the entire team, on node maps gets harder

[broken jewel]

it's not holy yap it's venting

[gilded gulch]

play rated

no one good plays random bgs

outside of the first 1-2 weeks for honor gear

[broken jewel]

it's 01:49 i just wanna chill at the end of the day. didn't know it's more chill rated than nonrated

[proven field]

that's not true, tons of amazing players play, they just play in pocket 2s/3s teams and obliterate everyone

[gilded gulch]

hey

dont call out bajheera

its 3 pocket healers

[proven field]

lol

[gilded gulch]

get it right

s/o to the boy when he left the match when i had him 10%

out of range of his healer

[proven field]

wait who's the Evoker who does it all the time too, I can't remember his name

[broken jewel]

i don't mind that. i mind that literally nobody ever talks about this as it's already normal to get 325k hp players half your team on horde nowadays

[gilded gulch]

idk random bgs are kind of a joke

[broken jewel]

and for some reason u can't go mercenary mode anymore

[gilded gulch]

i grab zerking and saltwater pot

and 2 shot some bozo

[broken jewel]

yeah man but if the enemy team is fully geared and ur team is in literal greens, can show u the video, it's impossible. they die 9 times in 7 minutes

[gilded gulch]

thats why you play rated

:)

[broken jewel]

i all ined a druid, he got layed on hands on 10% hp, i vanished and let them win , simple as that. all team already dead 30s into the bg

[broken jewel]

like this is true btw. this is not overexageration

[gilded gulch]

Yeah because horde smells

who wants to play an orc

[broken jewel]

anyway have a good night. i go blitz

orc freaking owns and it looks badass

[rough rock]

Alliance can’t play regular bgs solo they need mommies milk and 400 premades in order to press the que button

[gilded gulch]

it only looks funny in some clown mogs hunched

if you play orc straightback you got issues

female orcs look alright in some mogs

male orcs are just roid monkeys

[broken jewel]

nightelf could never look so buffed. look at this guy. father of 2 , works 1 job, loves his wife, still has time to play wow pvp late night. definition of gigachad right here

[gilded gulch]

that doesnt match at all

[broken jewel]

constructive criticism is: idk why they don't scale up random gear to 276 so you can play the game and not get folded like a piece of paper in 3 globals

[gilded gulch]

correct way to mog an orc

real and based

[vocal surge]

They already scale it up to ~260ish

[broken jewel]

yeah true. i got all 3 colors of angler fish helm that one looks absolutetly badass, i agree

[rough rock]

Undead >>>

We have liberty spikes, no one else does

We win

[gilded gulch]

undead also doesnt have pants

[broken jewel]

i know but it's cope. ok u don't get 3 shot, you get 7 shot.

[gilded gulch]

that doesnt rip in the middle

[rough rock]

Yes they do

[broken jewel]

undead animations both are just ... chef's kiss

might not be the best minmax but my god these animations. uf. S++ tier

[gilded gulch]

idk how anyone looks at animations

unless you play wow zoomed in

[rough rock]

Idk the NE animations are….

lol

[gilded gulch]

fem ones are ok

male well you have something wrong with you

if you play male

[rough rock]

Goblin stealth best in game tho

Tip toeing lol

[gritty hemlock]

why are people so weird

[gilded gulch]

yeah but then you have to listen to a new jersey accent

[gritty hemlock]

in m+

that no one will take a rogue

[rough rock]

Lmao true

[gritty hemlock]

no im so fr

Ik people INSTA que

256 ilvl

ik mechs

mfs wont even look at me

[proven field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dol-huh

[broken jewel]

sry bro. i feel u

[gilded gulch]

wait until you see the rbg community

half those mfs belong on a wathclist

[rough rock]

NE the only character I have that I don’t wear my darkfuze clloak on

For ….reasons

[gilded gulch]

the what

oh neo coat

[gritty hemlock]

Its bad\

[gilded gulch]

m+ has way too many dps apps

[broken jewel]

i got a guild and can easily time +12, atm farming bis for everyone at 10s before pushing rating. that helps alot. i got ilvl 269 and pugs barely take me and when they do i top dmg by a lot and hardcarry. we're stigmatized in m+

[proven field]

Legion/BFA/SL RBG community (esp if you hit up say... 2k+ PUG) was almost exclusively dog-kickers and legit sociopaths

[gilded gulch]

so if you're below 270 without score you're kind of cooked

[gilded gulch]

oh i was talking pdfs

but go on

yeah

[gritty hemlock]

Can i join

[gritty hemlock]

Im boutta make a healer n quit the game

[proven field]

Oh that too... one girl comes on, the M'Lady's hit you like a tsunami

[broken jewel]

it's rly nice to play a healer. go for it. i like it alot

[gilded gulch]

also bonus points for saying the word that starts with the letter n

on cd

[gritty hemlock]

I wanna dps tho ;c

And lvling a healer

smh

Im boutta put in my msg

[proven field]

if their priest healer is a girl, two things will 100% happen - you will lose because she is terrible, everyone will blame the PUG regardless and defend her with their lives

[gritty hemlock]

its a cruel world for a sub rogue

[gilded gulch]

knew a guy who had multi hero

he said you just nuked them

and won teamfight every time

[proven field]

lol

[gritty hemlock]

wow

[potent pivot]

We already had one of those today

No more ok ty

[broken jewel]

rbgs 10 times easier than random bgs as horde 100% confirmed

[potent pivot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/rDCzai8kVVo?si=HCUTCPQATf345gSI

This shit looks so good on some warglaives damn

[broken jewel]

it's a rly cool enchant i agree

[gilded gulch]

Oh no we aint actually saying that word

just how its prevalent in some rbg servers

[outer sky]

Oh that is really nice actually

Lmao this is so lame

[potent pivot]

Yep

Gotta be the worst elite set in idk how long

[keen canopy]

yeah compare that to like any other class this season ngl

warlock

death knight

anything

[outer sky]

Win #14 in a row wtf is going on

[spring bough]

hackz luck

[gritty hemlock]

Where do you get the cosmetics at? Is it a vendor?

Or do you reward instantly

[outer sky]

Insta awarded

Unless its the tabard

You buy that

[gritty hemlock]

What rating do you get it at?

[outer sky]

2300

[gritty hemlock]

Is battleground better to rank?

Srry to blast ur head off

[outer sky]

Yeah

2300 is free in Blitz

I just played a game at 2.8k mmr as you can see above and I still dont think half my team had their monitors turned on

And we still won

[gritty hemlock]

I been doing solo shuff

Stuck at

1300

lol

But im learning alot

[outer sky]

I do free vod reviews btw. Im not rank 1 but I do get gladiator every season

[gritty hemlock]

oHH NO

Imma get a vid

it might be bad

[outer sky]

If its not bad then theres no point in sending it. That would be like hiring a tutor for a class youre already getting an A in

[gritty hemlock]

Scared to see how bad im doin

imm getting clipping stuff up rn

Does it matter what mode

VId incoming

[sleek belfry]

the hard mmr reset of a new expac is crazy

instead of the seasonal carryover

[ocean thunder]

i'm frankly not ever recording my games, maybe i should instead of throwing hours
Then agian, I am not there yet mechanically
That's why i preferred Assa since it's simpler in terms of buttons

[stiff cedar]

you'd be genuinely surprised how many of your own mistakes you can cstch by watching your gameplay

the first time you ever watch your own vod you're like holy crap i am terrible at this video game lmao

[gritty hemlock]

How should i send it

Can you watch it with ,me

[terse cedar]

is outlaw any good? Wish I could swap between sub and outlaw but they require completely diff gear

[potent pivot]

You can use somewhat similar gear

You’d just have to swap out mast for more crit/vers

But can play both with a similar amount of haste just fine

But outlaw is a bit rough atm anyway

[sick moth]

I’m new to shuffle and blitz. Are queues always 10+ min?

[potent pivot]

Generally speaking yea

For dps

[sick moth]

Okay. I’m like do people just sit these queues or what are we doing in between? Alt account or just hang? Haha

[balmy shuttle]

World PvP, crates etc.

[potent pivot]

Wpvp, WQs, farm transmogs or mounts, etc

Some people do have alt accounts they queue simultaneously and play whichever pops first

That’s a pretty small amount of people though

[terse cedar]

I just tried out assa, is there usually such an evergy starve...? Also outlaw felt shit.... I used to love all 3 but now only sub feels great, this feels abit bad

[potent pivot]

Assa energy is slower yeah but it should feel fine

Gotta run all the energy talents and play around the apex talent energy refunds

[warped gate]

I gotta get used to prebuffing in stealth as Fatebound — I end up doing Adrendaline Rush too close and the coin takes me out of stealth.

[broken jewel]

4-0 blitz, 0-3 cooking impossible tonight. easiest games of my life. the impossible in cooking impossible stands for impossible to win 😉

[warped gate]

Farming the turn-in spot is the best way I've found.

He who wins the brawl at the turn-in spot, wins the Brawl in general.

[balmy shuttle]

Word! This alone makes me hate Fatebound.

[broken jewel]

got literally tears in my eyes. it's so beautiful I just can't man

[dark stump]

... i hate bg

[stoic spruce]

Just win one and lose one

Ggez

[dark stump]

i lost 4

2 were against russian

the other 2 my team just didn't want to go on objective

[rough rock]

NAH WHO YOU PAYING

[outer sky]

Nobody. Im just not specd outlaw lmao

[rough rock]

https://tenor.com/view/bomb-pipe-bomb-gif-11987700991386067050

[broken jewel]

did u guys buy anything this week with conq? or hold like the pros ?

[stoic spruce]

Held

[broken jewel]

missing 50 conquest for a 875 piece is diabolical xd

[stoic spruce]

That's just like what

2 crates

[broken jewel]

same, held but yeah 50 conquest

[rough rock]

is murlok being weird or do you really not run the gravedigger last node

[rough rock]

Imagine using a supersledge hammer from fallout to drive in a nail every 12 seconds with enough power to send the nail into the earths core

now imagine switching to a plastic hammer that has a random chance to turn to dust or slightly drive the nail 1cm down, but you get gamba and casino noises

[proven field]

Are you running tea? This blitz or arena?

[warped gate]

I bought a 700 piece, and will have just enough to get my 4P next week.

[broken jewel]

ty,y. I just wait for vault. still have to play solo shuffle for both r this week, will just go like this i guess

if i get mythic Gloves I can just upgrade them to 289 and use them as such and not spend conq for that slot.

prayge. gn boys<3

[sleek belfry]

bro don't say that in this channel, some ppl might get triggered

[outer sky]

Nah the outlaw mains in here are pretty cool it's fine

[dark stump]

i hate whoever tought it was a good idea

[proven field]

It’s all they have though

[warped gate]

Hot damn, bro, it felt like I had no agency in that match:

Sub just put his thumb in the air, slowly angled it down, and killed whoever he felt like.

[dark stump]

true

but dh changing into fighter jet wasn't on bingo

[outer sky]

The most annoying thing in this game right now is that 1 second long stun demo locks can spam that doesn't even DR

[dark stump]

Mortal coil ?

[outer sky]

No its a stun

[dark stump]

Shadow fury ? or axe toss ?

[outer sky]

No

[dark stump]

https://giphy.com/gifs/huh-interrogation-questionning-tJhpLcLhnpSBvoaxLv

[proven field]

Hrmmm most annoying thing

Gonna have to think on that

[dark stump]

the most annoying stun ? any chain fear that doesn't get DR

shammy lightning lasso into root into fear

[outer sky]

this

[dark stump]

oooooooh

[outer sky]

it doesnt DR

[dark stump]

imagine the most annoying cc being a spell whose main purpose isn't even to cc

[outer sky]

and it can spam

[dark stump]

🤣

[dark stump]

hmm i'm getting tempted to change from destro to demo

[outer sky]

Fuck. I think my win streak may be about to come to an end. I can't out-rogue Weedtyler

[dark stump]

see the positive

they don't have dh to reveal u

[outer sky]

Yep thats it lmao

14 win streak

broken

[sleek belfry]

ozzy, imit, and murphz too lol

[outer sky]

yeah

our team had nobody

[sleek belfry]

xD

[outer sky]

literally not 1 recognizable name

[sleek belfry]

it's so funny seeing RBG players vs blitz players

[rough rock]

BRO I PLAYED AGAINST THIS GUY

I dogged on him on a node like 4x on my outlaw but team couldnt win mid for the life of them

[sleek belfry]

i bet bro

[outer sky]

He's probably the best BG rogue in the game or certainly in the top 3

[rough rock]

theres no way

oh wtf

youre right

[sleek belfry]

you're saying you dogged on him on orc sub rogue as outlaw 4x in a game

[rough rock]

Theres zero way i played against him his rating is through the roof

[sleek belfry]

doubt, but if so gj

[rough rock]

idk why that name looks familar

Not like thats a common name lol

[sleek belfry]

xD

[severe helm]

naaaah

avi, seth, kepala are def all better

theres quite a few sub rogues out there

hes good but he tilts super hard

[gilded gulch]

its existed as long as the class has

[dark stump]

yes but it didn't hit that hard

[gilded gulch]

its just not worth at real ratings since anyone with 2 braincells finds los

oh it did

I used to run it in bfa with haste azerite

you could get more off hasted

it was only good vs dks in tolviron

any mobile class finds a pillar and fucks off

rogue there's pretty much 0 reason to get hit by it

[gilded gulch]

is it really a fair compare when most of the high end ones dont bg

avidance is the only one i can think of that plays other brackets at a high level

[severe helm]

I meant in blitz

All 3 of those rogues I mentioned do

[gilded gulch]

Is seth new

havent heard of prior

[waxen meteor]

having a 0-6 blitz night

lol

and solo yet to pop

blitz cannot reset mmr

man it's impossible

capped 6 nodes and defend 2 still lost

what can i do more

[rough rock]

ya just send it again!

[waxen meteor]

i am no better

i feel even ashamend for my record

8-13

wtf

i am surely a below average player

[rough rock]

idk lots of people just say that entire below 1800 mark is just a flip coin no matter what, obv theres impact but like theres so many times im just fully capping bases and my team just all loses in mid or ignores the flag entirely

i try to comm as much as i can

[outer sky]

Im 18-4

[rough rock]

l o fucking l

2nd win where i get zero rating

[regal stream]

there is 100% no longer any way to place personal raid markers on enemy healers right?

That all went away with the midnight API overhaul, correct?

[rough rock]

-carry flag and drop 4x for mw to run it mid
-solo kill efc 2x
-cap for win

• +11 rating

[severe helm]

yeah looks like your mmr is over 100 below your cr

which is why you gained so little

[rough rock]

yeah i think dropping from 1783 to 1400ish in 2-3 days fucked my mmr

hopefully next game is higher rated people so i can gain more probably just balancing me out

[livid grove]

Are humans faster in stealth? my NE feels so slow. no inchants on either

[severe helm]

your talents might be different

NE is faster actually

I think 5%

[livid grove]

huh. ok

[stoic spruce]

does it stack?

[velvet prism]

Are you all sending aoes in ST during dance to get more Danse
Macabre or is it not worth?

[rough rock]

its not like monks thing, it resets after each ability

[rough rock]

this hunter was not a real person

[potent pivot]

Not worth sending bad globals for macabres no

No backstab/storms etc

[quick temple]

ms hasnt been 50% outside of sharpen for years

[outer sky]

Right its 25% in pvp but every warr plays sharpened blade

So 50% for 4s after warbreaker

And i think the guy i responded to about this even mentioned sharpened

[quick temple]

ah msg was deleted didnt know, my b

[outer sky]

Dev evoker playing adapt. Id of had that guy dead in the first 15 seconds of the game

I also have Kidney bound to 2

[severe helm]

6 minute healer queue what?

[dark moon]

That sounded a bit entitled

[outer sky]

A few days ago I got the data for the number and max CR of each spec in shuffle. The total number for all players was 47,312.

Of those there were:
3,328 disc priests
3,070 Holy paladins
2,873 Mistweaver Monks
1,905 Resto Druids
1,575 Holy Priests
1,256 Resto Shamans
849 Pres Evokers

That means out of 47,312 players, there were 14,856 healers. Thats 31.4%. Which is almost exactly proportional to the % of each lobby healers are (2/6 so 33.333...%).

It doesnt look like this season is having the healer shortage we're used to shuffle having, for whatever reason.

[severe helm]

and yet queues are still 6 mins

nice fucking game

[quick temple]

is there any addon that turns off fatebound coin sfx?

[outer sky]

I think there is. I just forgot what its called

You can search every buff, debuff, and ability in the game and selectively mute it

But I cant even begin to recall the name of it

[outer sky]

I think its called "Resonance"

[grave basin]

First week having 20min queues is kinda fried

But shuffle mmr being so capped might not be the move by blizz

[balmy shuttle]

well, I rarely fight long enough in Blitz for it to proc so prefer to put the point elsewhere

[grave basin]

Especially when blitz is alrdy at 3k

Theres no parity

[outer sky]

It makes sense but not when blitz isnt capped

[grave basin]

Yea path of least resistance

[quick temple]

tysm this saved my ears

[dark moon]

That's the result of 33% of players being healers

You gotta sit healer queues now. Its fresh

I mean, it sucks that they are trying to kill shuffle

Do we have statics on people count in tww first 1-2 weeks of shuffle s1? @outer sky

Cause 33% healers is either dps gave up, or people learned that healer is ez way of shuffling

[outer sky]

Im sure its out there somewhere.

I dont have it readily available though

[dark moon]

Having more healers is good. Now if they decide to reduce shuffle rounds to either one or two queue times will drop I think

And most people won't sit 20+ min queues unless high rating

[outer sky]

They wont do that. People would complain its unfair if they only get paired with the shitter in the lobby or if they never get paired with the best player in it

[dark moon]

It would mean a round with healers swaps once

[outer sky]

Yeah i get the concept but like if theres 1 dps thats trolling or one thats overperforming it can make things seem unfair to people

[dark moon]

It happens if rounds are 6

So best case you get 3-3?

[outer sky]

Better than 0-2

It only 3-3 if the problem is the healer though

[dark moon]

Ye but its not 30 min queue for those 3-3

[outer sky]

If one dps goes 0-6 the others go 4-2

If one dps goes 6-0 the others go 2-4

[dark moon]

People start trolling when they die unjustified in their opinion, and start losing on purpose when paor with certian healer for example

Not talking about wintrading in this case

[outer sky]

Yeah they just tilt

[dark moon]

So they will have one round of throwing and 1 round of playing

And they will tilt less

Cause we all know that mage that blocks vs you and doesn't when on your team

Making me extremely mad

2 rounds get out dont raise blood pressure

Feels nice. Maybe they can implement it as a brawl or something

For testing purposes

Trying to figure out how we can reduce queues cause I really and I mean it really don't like sitting in queues more than playing the actual game

[outer sky]

Idk maybe. I think theres a benefit to making sure everyone plays with everyone else in the lobby. But also 6 rounds does make those bad lobbies sting more

[final pewter]

#showtooltip
/cleartarget [stealth]
/cast Adrenaline Rush
/targetlasttarget [stealth]

using this still makes the AR attack the target with the Edge Case from stealth, do you guys have any other method for that? 😄

[proper vortex]

What i the dance -> sectec -> ss/ambush spam for outlaw? Tried it while leveling and I cant kill anything as fast as sub

[maiden gull]

AR + BTE

thats it

[proper vortex]

Ufff okay

[proven kayak]

Guys I’m thinking to come back to play the expansion but my daily time is limited how long is the queues in blitz and shuffle

[grave basin]

Shuffle same same 20-40mins depending on time of day + your mmr

Blitz unsure

[proven kayak]

Damn man that’s so much time

[dark moon]

you can queue for both blitz and shuffle before your official gaming time starts

so you can start the gaming timer as the first queue pops

[proper vortex]

"official gaming time" I like that phrase

[gusty hedge]

hit escape or target yourself when u hit adr

[crisp imp]

so, we get weaponsn this week.
Acuity of the Ren'dorei mainhand(?)
Arcane Mastery on offhand possibly

are these enchants (still) the way to go?

(sub)

[dark kernel]

I honestly have no idea. Half the good players have weapon chains off hand which we plebs can't use anymore

[nova viper]

gg, we cooked

Death Perception effects now increase finisher damage by 3% each in PvP combat (was 5%).
Replicating Shadows bonus damage for Shadow Clones reduced to 5% in PvP combat (was 15%).

[potent pivot]

most likely yeah

most people probably won't know

but

[obtuse venture]

Can somebody tell me wich classes are useless to disarm? a part from obvious (casters), monk...usually doubt with hunters (except mm), pallys, and dk

[potent pivot]

you get higher uptime running 2 diff enchants

so 1 main stat/1mast should be quite good

just don't be surprised to see most people running 2mast or 2agi because thats what we've been doing for a long time

[hollow carbon]

You can disarm DKs to prevent them from using death strikes (healing themselves)

Also disarming Monk can help with Fists of fury, could disarm them before you plan to kidney

[crisp imp]

what are weapon chains?

[dark kernel]

You enchant them on your offhand they reduce disarms by 50%

It used to make you immune to disarm

[hollow carbon]

No need to disarm feral

[crisp imp]

sounds like its rather very situational?

[hollow carbon]

It’s quite strong

[crisp imp]

ok

but why not possible?

[dark kernel]

Kind of but LOTS of classes have disarm now

[dark kernel]

We weren't supposed to be able to use them. Blizz has discontinued them, but there was a bug that let you put them on new weapons (it's already been fixed)

[hollow carbon]

You could play OH honor dagger with chain into disarm matchups and otherwise swap out with conquest weapon

[dark kernel]

Unfortunately if you already put them on a weapon they still work

[crisp imp]

wtf!

so ppl that crafted their conq dagger and put that on now have this unfair advantage?

[dark kernel]

Most of them only have it on the honor dagger you would never want it on a conquest weapon unless you had your offhand and most people don't

[crisp imp]

ok. so.
we plebs entchant with agi and mastery?

[hollow carbon]

Cant you even swap weapons in Combat?

[dark kernel]

Yes only weapons

[crisp imp]

isnt this mainly a nerf to mastery > haste gear ppl btw?
a bigger nerf is to be expected no?

[potent pivot]

not necessarily but it will feel bigger to them yea

[crisp imp]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-good-gewd-star-wars-episode-3-gif-15386400457909814305

[lime oar]

i was thinking the same lmao

get disarmed and weapon swap macro

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[tired prairie]

Question for the long time seasoned arena rogues out there. I play assassination (deathstalker) for clarification.. For optimal pressure is the goal to bleed (garote/rupture) 2 (or all 3??) targets and maintain that, then start envenom rotation on prio target? Or just open 1 target and hyperfocus that 1 target at a time without worry of maintaining bleeds on other targets?

[rough rock]

Low rating so healers don’t know what purge is, hate wasting stuns on evokers during their nullifying

[outer sky]

You gouge that off

[rough rock]

Ahh I’ll try that next time

[stoic spruce]

Sap it off

Boop boop boop

[outer sky]

Assuming he got combat first. Otherwise yeah sap

[stoic spruce]

No dood they'll totally let you

100% of the time

Trust

[potent pivot]

assa is wholely unpopular rn, but it plays a bit differently than TWW if you played it at all then. if @jaunty osprey gets on he can better answer as he's actually played it so far this season

you can still bleed 2-3 atm, ik that for sure

use CT to spread if anyone happens to stack, etc

you're mostly playing around your 1min/2min burst windows

[rough rock]

Once that AOE blind is back it’s over for everyone. Won’t even care if I don’t kill anyone 🤣

[stoic spruce]

Fr

[tired prairie]

Thanks for the reply back! I really enjoy the dot playstyle, but I just want to make sure it's still doable in arena right now, if not, however to best optimize it. Hopefully those other players you mentioned with some experience can provide some input as well.

[stoic spruce]

Assa players HATE seeing me show up to the function

[outer sky]

God damn wtf is this queue time jfc. Maybe I should re-queue?

[sleek belfry]

all the blitz/rbg ppl are asleep still

degen hours

[jolly sierra]

i hate u are not playing dk

[outer sky]

New MiniCC has OmniCD

[regal stream]

@outer sky so I got my 700 haste, and the mastery dump I can almost skip because I was mostly mastery before.
However... with Crafting I could actually get even MORE mastery if I abandon versatility. 700 Haste > Mastery > Versatility?

[outer sky]

@severe helm lmao

[outer sky]

yeah eventually you wanna craft everything that isnt your tier

[regal stream]

I can just do it to all of my blue pieces since I cant get full tier set yet anyway

[outer sky]

yeah you can

[outer sky]

Imagine failing this comically hard

week 2 of the season

[stoic spruce]

id rather not play dk ty

[potent pivot]

Don’t drop too much vers

[jolly sierra]

F

[stoic spruce]

nah unholy has no place in this meta

[potent pivot]

Like mast engi pieces this season are prolly a bit too far

Can pretty reliably stick to around 20% vers with 5-6 crafted pieces

[outer sky]

@potent pivot You see whats back?

[potent pivot]

That’s been back for weeks bud

[outer sky]

through what?

[potent pivot]

Multiple addons

[outer sky]

The MiniCC update that added it was just today

[potent pivot]

Ye they are behind

[outer sky]

which one

[potent pivot]

I talked about them here with Mewo last week

PetesDefensiveHistory and ZaeUI_Defensives something were 2 of em

And depending on how miniCC coded it, the ZaeUI one is likely better for 3s

[stoic spruce]

popped in and got tech, thanks trickz.

[potent pivot]

Because all group members need the ZaeUI one

But it tracks the CDs reliably

While other addons don’t

[proven field]

You want to keep bleed pressure on everything 100%, but for a while everyone tends to stack so you can CT everything around (except if there are pets because CT is not smart enough to pick people) to just keep Rupture/Garrote rocking. Especially if you run Sudden Demise (which I do, running that and Zoldyck vs DTB), you're putting passive pressure on everyone (as well as a passive mini-execute). Then Deathmark into Kingsbane the main target and get those envenoms rolling..

[gleaming sentinel]

Slowly going right back to addons lmao

[potent pivot]

RWF guys have WeakAuras and everything they had before Midnight

The only thing that is gone is computational assignments

[proven field]

This whole addon situation just feels like a shitty war simulator.. "ok they blew up all our supply lines, but we've... largely reestablished everything and have rigged up solutions to get the town up and running again"

[gleaming sentinel]

[muted abyss]

This addon situation is why you don't listen to the casuals when making design choices

[proven field]

the most annoying thing is how much I actually tinker with damage meter data to review play etc

and how we can't do that anymore

[potent pivot]

It’s also why you don’t rush these kinds of things half-cocked

This expansion release has become a joke because of it

[severe helm]

The biggest tragedy in all of this is our damage meter

Game just has no feedback loop now

0/10

[proper vortex]

got a crazy winstreak and now my mmr is 3k. avg. queue time 37min really?

[proven field]

well and either get rid of them and offer a replacement, or don't... this mixed bag of random useless stuff combined with the endless loopholes and post-apocalyptic return to normalcy we have to do just to get almost exactly what we had before is for the birds

[potent pivot]

They started with “these changes are years away and we will slowly phase certain things out as we make our own replacements” and then just ripped the entire thing to shreds immediately for the next expansion

[outer sky]

They're not capabale of making suitable replacements

[potent pivot]

Then rushing work with addon devs to create their own solutions, all of which are still getting replaced by addons

[potent pivot]

Queues towards that mmr only get hot at degen hours

[proper vortex]

I feel so good now

[proven field]

Every other Tech company since forever: "Ok thank you for coming in Details dev team, we would like to offer you $X dollars in advisory work to help launch an official DM. Once live, Details will be over, but you can be part of the story - and it will pay quite well" or give them jobs, or buy them out and bolt-on if they are a legit company, etc etc

[proper vortex]

avg 1800 pleb goes 3k mmr

[proven field]

Classic+ will likely be the exact same thing... "minimum viable product" even though there are decades of expertise and industry-defining solutions you just need to access

hubris and cost-cutting in direct spite of themselves and the community

[outer sky]

Has nothing to do with that

They're just wishy washy

[proven field]

what does that mean

[potent pivot]

the community?

[outer sky]

they backed off their originial position

of getting rid of addons

[potent pivot]

the only players that matter are the ones that buy every mtx

unless they are pink

i guess

[outer sky]

but they didnt want to make it look like they were wrong

which i guess yeah is hubris to some extent

but some things like the damage meter

is 100000000% being made intentionally bad

they dont want players to have enough information to flame each other with

I'll take that to my grave

[proven field]

hubris to think they could have done it themselves in the first place, that they know what's best for the game, for the community, hubris to not just accept that there are external solutions with valid reasons for existing

[proven field]

Just a note from FF14

[outer sky]

I think in that game you can get banned for booting someone from the group for being bad

but at least theyre honest about it

Blizzard is trying this pathetic cover up

[proven field]

You can if you cite dps as a reason, but more that you cannot acknowledge that you know someone's DPS as it's a third-party app and forbidden

[potent pivot]

naw, u get banned for being a piece of shit

[outer sky]

Again, at least theyre honest about it

[potent pivot]

there's a bit of a difference

[proven field]

I imagine every decision they make is to try to capture Gen Z, and create a solution that will still work on console

[potent pivot]

consoles are dying eventually

new ps5 is apparently going to be like $1200 or some shit

[proven field]

everyone just wants that roblox money

[potent pivot]

anyone not just buying a pc at that point is lost

[proven field]

kids don't play PC or console

whoever can own the platform will ultimately own next-gen gaming

gotta believe Blizz/MS is looking at WoW as a platform potential, and their moves are largely designed around longevity in an evolving market

[potent pivot]

idk man

[proven field]

(or maybe they just acknowledge this is a generational game largely, and go full whale-mode, preying on the 5% of 40+ gamers who spend fortunes on junk)

[potent pivot]

even they are surprised wow has lasted even this long i'm sure

[proven field]

I imagine they are struggling to keep it relevent just as much as we are to keep enjoying it as much as we used to

[lime oar]

kids are brainwashed into thinking touchscreen controls are better because that’s all their parents give them

ipad and mobile games

it’s sad

[proven field]

gaming is entirely social-based and convenience-designed for them

nothing easier than just pulling your phone out (or ipad) and just partying with a dozen friends playing Adoptme or Brainrot

No need for a separate $600-1200 machine that needs to be managed and lives in a specific room, no need to worry about expensive games, just... use the phone your parents bought you, and plug into the dopamine machine while laughing with buddies

Boys will still ask for a PS5 to play sports games and Fortnite on, and there are young PC gamers, but Roblox, Minecraft, even Fortnite are such powerful platforms and social aggregators, it will be interesting to see how the gaming hardware community plans to survive

[stoic spruce]

what are we talm bout?

I read up but im still lost

[proven field]

Blizz going console (to me) would be largely about grabbing more of the 25-55 Gamer market who still buys consoles, but never got into PC gaming... much less about converting new gamers into market, more about converting existing ones onto platform

[proper vortex]

sir this is a wendys

[potent pivot]

watchu wanna talmbout willis

[stoic spruce]

dude

just the man I wanted to see

did you know

I love wow?

[potent pivot]

[stoic spruce]

btw after your 5th consecutive win, youre obligated to lose so you dont get put in your position

[stoic spruce]

dood

[rough rock]

I mean wow already has around 9 million subs

Going console would just open up a whole new demographic for them and honestly wouldn’t be that difficult to do there’s already plenty of people playing on a rog or steamdeck

[stoic spruce]

wow has its ups and downs and rn its at a down

thats fineee

/srs btw

[potent pivot]

anyone else watching whaazz one shot everyone on ww

sub is the issue guys

yea

[rough rock]

You’re right sub is the issue

[stoic spruce]

you know whats funny?

[rough rock]

Buff outlaw

[stoic spruce]

I dont think subs dmg is its problem at all

I think its how often is has its CDs

[potent pivot]

he's sub 1min one shot every match this shuffle

lol

[stoic spruce]

which a lot of specs have that problem

[proven field]

ppl hate sub because they are just about only spec who can still stunlock you into death, and can do it every 20 seconds

we are rogues because deep down we are all monsters - this is fact. Other people play happy specs because they are not. They do not like being wrecked by monsters. Blizz balance is really "don't let monsters win too much or good ppl quite"

quit*

[stoic spruce]

yall dont wanna hear this but imma say it

everyone has their goes too frequently

[proven field]

man there are literally a dozen assa players in here and at least several outlaw players - we have feelings too

[muted abyss]

love assa gameplay in bgs, spend 4-5 globals to start your damage rolling just to get one shot lol

[potent pivot]

lol...

[proven field]

"goes too frequently".. how dare you

[muted abyss]

at least we get a 4% damage buff 🙂

[lime oar]

other specs are quite literally boring ahh hell my opinion is objective

[rough rock]

Totally agree

[stoic spruce]

we're outlaw, we're exempt from that

[rough rock]

Wild

[proven field]

I play more BGB, but most people I've spoken to who hate sub, hate because it feels like there is no downside to being one.. victims have to hammer defensives immediately on a go, but sub just resets and hides in the dark and then re-engages victim who now has no defensive coolies to stop them. I can totally see how that would drive someone fucking crazy

[potent pivot]

lol

cooldown guessing module

[proper vortex]

guessing haha

[stoic spruce]

of course you agree, you are smart and handsome and 6 foot 2 and ripped

[lime oar]

high risk high reward u don’t always get away clean an if u don’t get the reset and blow defensives you’re cooked

[stoic spruce]

and a jawline that cuts diamonds

[lime oar]

like any other class

[stoic spruce]

WoW needs an extraction gamemode seperate from retail like plunderstorm

[muted abyss]

unfortunately sub is just badly designed for pvp, it's not fun to play against and it's boring to play

[proven field]

I am assa so I just keep them dotted and run until evasion is gone and then we race to the bottom together holding hands - but other specs, I can see it feeling like bullshit

[proven field]

Midnight has made a lot of those unfortunately lol... cries in old Surv tears

[lime oar]

i wish assa was a bit better cuz i prefer it tbh

how’s it been doing in bgb for you

[balmy shuttle]

What they did to Survival is a war crime. Same as sub, tbf

[proven field]

I'm only like 1700 cr, but I love it. Solid in teamfights, enough burst to return. Only gap I run into is there are a lot of specs with solid counters that can wash my dmg, so I can't easily catch a ret off guard holding a node and it can become too long a fight to win before backup arrives etc. And 1v1 vs sub, they really gotta actually screw up for me to win (which they tend to do, but perfectly played 1v1 I don't think i'd win)

[halcyon timber]

Isn’t that what the external cds (edit mode option / advanced settings) in blizz’ ui does too though? I haven’t touched that - (that’s why im asking)

[potent pivot]

no idea

i assume that only shows you when externals are actually active on you

external buffs yea

the actual cooldown tracking is different

[halcyon timber]

Ill have to check it out later but yeah. And mini cc requires that to be on as well?

Or no?

[potent pivot]

no

[halcyon timber]

Tracking so its inferring

[proven field]

the nerf to implacable strikes was a bummer; that made assa super duper fun

[potent pivot]

minicc is guessing when certain cooldowns' CDs

they can see when they are pressed usually, but can't reliably track it or the actual cooldown time

[halcyon timber]

Yep as it cant touch a lot of stuff as it is on secret and bombs your screen with errors

[lime oar]

that shit was overkill

[potent pivot]

if the cooldown time is effected by talents or CDR, etc

there is 1 addon that does it more reliably

because it requires your group members to have the same addon

[halcyon timber]

So the “addons are coming back” is not true in the way people are suggesting- nonsense

[potent pivot]

so its using a work around

[halcyon timber]

Yeah makes sense

[potent pivot]

i mean... they are

certain people even have work around Omnibar that they are only sharing around privately

[halcyon timber]

Odd

[proven field]

It was.... breathes in so much damn fun

[potent pivot]

the only addon functionality that is fully killed atm is computational assignments etc

[rough rock]

Mvq def using it then

[halcyon timber]

As expected to avoid automation nonsense

[potent pivot]

ya he made it

[rough rock]

Wonder what exploit he’s using now

Claude working overtime for him

[jaunty osprey]

🙂

[spring bough]

Sin seems good. Was in a shuffle w one last night and helped push sudden demise both rounds he was with me 😂

Smoke down. Smashed some buttons. And dps went pop

[stoic spruce]

I gotta admit

I love the kill pressure Jackpot/Menacing/Gravedigger gives outlaw

[spring bough]

So what 1 of 6 rounds when jackpot rolls 😭

[molten hedge]

Who ready for ret warr rdru tomm

[stoic spruce]

lol yeah just about

[cobalt pewter]

wait a minute

i think sub rogue is op

[lime oar]

it’s terrible mud

not good at all

[cobalt pewter]

[stoic spruce]

yo is that prot warr main MUD?

[molten hedge]

No it’s mvq and petkick’s daddy @cobalt pewter

[stoic spruce]

no hes a prot warr main, I know because I saw him queue for one round as prot in DF

[potent pivot]

we're all too busy talking about ww being the most op shit in the game

[stoic spruce]

yeah WW crazy

[potent pivot]

meanwhile arms warriors are hiding how disgusting they are

[stoic spruce]

WW do be overshadwoing the other problematic specs

[cobalt pewter]

what is this slander

tank players are all dumb

nobody likes them

[stoic spruce]

teehee

[dark kernel]

I have bad news for you Mud

Why are you not in your containment chamber

Shouldn't you be terrorizing 2s

[cobalt pewter]

nah every 1500 rated honor level 20 sub rogue farms me

[dark kernel]

If only...

Warrior low key does not die rn

The damage can be pitiful but guildy was getting some 130k crits

Seen some turbo and thunder

[stone talon]

is sub the only viable pvp spec??

[balmy shuttle]

depends

[stoic spruce]

no its just the only rogue spec with a rogue toolkit

[rough rock]

Pasting crybaby mvq son or baby raging in whispers son

[grave basin]

did i miss something

[stoic spruce]

a pvp streamer raging in whispers? say it aint so!

[grave basin]

how is this back again again again?

[stoic spruce]

blizz said sowwy

[grave basin]

oh wait i just need to update minicc

[severe helm]

just add it to the list of bullshit

more 1 shots

[grave basin]

thanks for nuking my UI in midnight blizz this was def worth the shit show

[stoic spruce]

its like SL but 1/8th the fun

[severe helm]

if only there were tons of people telling blizzard this is exactly what would happen

oh wait

[stone talon]

makes sense :p

[severe helm]

meanwhile I still cant even see how hard my abilities are hitting

[stone talon]

assa is trash or?

[severe helm]

nice damage meter 🙂

[stone talon]

outlaw pvp obvious flaws nothing changed i assume? 😭

[stoic spruce]

just get Jackpot/Gravedigger and Ace procs/Menacing Rush all at the same time and you can do real dmg

[severe helm]

outlaw is exactly where they want it to be 🙂

[stoic spruce]

its that easy

im being sarcastic btw, you will only get one or the other

[stone talon]

ambiguous

[jolly sierra]

eww streamers

[muted abyss]

we get free weapons at 2.5k conquest this week right?

[lime oar]

yessirrrr

[potent pivot]

yes

[dark kernel]

WW is insanely strong

It's like sub damage on crack

[grave basin]

dps valeera is fuckinginsane

that

is ST

[dark kernel]

Does she scale with you or something

Mine does near my damage too and I barely do delves

[stone talon]

oh it's just 2500 conq now you don't even have to get a certain rating???!

i swear it used to be like 2100+ or smth

[spring bough]

For the elite appearances yeah. Conquest weps free token at 2500 conquest earned

[balmy shuttle]

I want SL gearing back

[spring bough]

[molten hedge]

What dat hoe talm bout 😂 @potent pivot

[muted abyss]

nope, never was rating based

they just time gate the weapons

[spring bough]

Every time I see him I just think bro couldn’t get 2.4K as outlaw

[stone talon]

damn wtf

pog it would be very hard to catchup if they were rating based

[balmy shuttle]

didn't he play until 2.X without tracking RTB buffs -> having super low uptime on RTB? I only watched a few of his games

[potent pivot]

hes saying people don't run the talents that were nerfed? he is quite uninformed

[spring bough]

Yeah something like that

[dark moon]

Supa out of touch kek

[muted abyss]

He's a jackass of all trades and a master of bum

[cobalt pewter]

whats the average bench of a rogue main

[dark moon]

Woah, woah, woah. I'm letting you off with a warning that I'm stealing this.

[potent pivot]

700

[dark moon]

What's the equivalent of 120 kg

That's the average

[cobalt pewter]

nahj might be the strongest rogue main

[potent pivot]

Oh I was talking about mg

[dark moon]

I read bench and i sent it

Kek

[stone talon]

rogue main strength measured by how much extra kg you can do a weighted muscle up with

[jolly sierra]

a cougar

[dark moon]

But im guessing 700 mg of caffeine for nahj

[muted abyss]

who does dumbell presses instead of the bar?

only me?

[stone talon]

me

i don't trust myself to bench w a barbell unless someone is spotting me

will guillotine myself one day

[cobalt pewter]

If you are serious about gains and perfecting your physique consider maining arms warrior

[dark moon]

And he starts the stream when the caffeine gets to him and he starts to feel jittery

[jolly sierra]

or 2 small washing machines

[stone talon]

nah fury warr + tren

dual wield two handers

[cobalt pewter]

fury is low T

[muted abyss]

I just like working all the other muscles and grip strength

[cobalt pewter]

Arms is based

[dark moon]

Is this the biggest chad Mud?

[jolly sierra]

yes

[dark moon]

Noice.

[jolly sierra]

ask him how to play arms

[muted abyss]

Gotta ice your balls daily for extra T

[jolly sierra]

and he will give u a codex

[stone talon]

you get way better fine motor control in ur chest with dumbell presses too

[muted abyss]

Yup, I can do the terry crews chest muscle control cause of it

[grave basin]

scales with her own level and your ilvl

[stone talon]

same sorta? probably not quite terry crews level but i can, didn't even attribute it to that

[muted abyss]

Not as good as him, but I can time it to music lol

[spring bough]

Nahj couldn’t even bench the bar 😭

[cobalt pewter]

thats your goat

[grave basin]

wait where did you see this

no way lol

[grave basin]

most natty vegan liberal crossfitter

[cobalt pewter]

average arms warrior main physique

[balmy shuttle]

if that's the average what do the outliers look like?

[spring bough]

Bros arms are twigs. I’m saying he couldn’t even bench the 45lb bar lmao

[grave basin]

ah ok i thought he actually tried

woulda had a tinge of respect for the effort

[spring bough]

That guys def never seen the inside of a gym 😂

[cobalt pewter]

pretty sure thats every rogue main

[grave basin]

they hated him for telling the truth

[dark kernel]

I would love to dress like an anime character and fuck Lady boys like sonidigital

[cobalt pewter]

https://youtu.be/R_6T3BX6hEY?si=V6Yakc8ICz9a6ztG

[dark kernel]

https://giphy.com/gifs/islandtouchdance-punching-kicking-dont-mess-with-me-vgPptRu3quuHYFQ1GH

[stone talon]

cant believe bajheera is only 1 yr older than sonii tf

[grave basin]

is this the worst elite set in the history of rogue

if that was red/charcoal black it would look kinda alright

but it's grey and piss coloured

[dark kernel]

Yes it really is

They used the LFR color scheme

[dark kernel]

What gear does to you

[wise breach]

The red black version is neat at least

[stone talon]

lmao probably truther

glad i have never fcked w my hormones

[muted abyss]

taking roids is insane, like I couldn't imagine having that kind of body image issue

[stone talon]

I'm 25 and look like a baby 👶

i have bought roids before

but

pussied out of taking

it was only low dose T but glad i didnt

[muted abyss]

taking supplemental T will reduce your natural production, so I'd stay away from that for sure

gear just reduces your life span, don't want to end up like Ronnie Coleman not able to walk

[sleek belfry]

hormone therapy is still super in development yeah

[stone talon]

it was this roughly afaik

[muted abyss]

just to get so jacked that women don't like how you look lol

[dark moon]

wasnt soni also on gear at some point?

[gilded gulch]

yeah but you get to laugh at people balding in their 20s

so W

[muted abyss]

oh, the capsules don't even work for most people lol

[gilded gulch]

like holy moly balding before 30 is a royal you lowrolled genetics

[muted abyss]

also, your bones will be weak compared to how much muscle you built, just fucking up any actual usable strength

[severe helm]

I like it except the color

the shape is cool

[stone talon]

I have acne even without roids

[muted abyss]

Yep, and you can't even do hair transplants to fix it cause you will continue to go bald lol

[molten hedge]

He doesn’t know if feral Hunter is good 🤣 why is he memeing rn

Jungle is v good rn especially into rmp meta lul

[severe helm]

his tier lists have been a joke for a while

[gilded gulch]

tank player opinions

[molten hedge]

@outer sky

Spell bop being only 6 secs now means the pink class is a ded spec right??

[gilded gulch]

lol i swear caster lobbies are so much easier to 6-0

then melee heavy ones

[gilded gulch]

clearly go panda to quaking palm the other rogue's go

[molten hedge]

Panda is a vibe. I sometimes wish I had one. I love their goofy walk

[gilded gulch]

its prob not horrendous

quaking palm and blind you can cc 2 instantly

every 2min

[keen canopy]

mechagnome for psychological damage against your opponent

[gilded gulch]

or ig you could do it so the other guy cant prefeint your go

[muted abyss]

we rushing 4 piece, haven't spent any conquest yet

[balmy shuttle]

BGB

[molten hedge]

Bgb mmr is a joke lmao

[neon roost]

Hoowee

[molten hedge]

It’s very inflated

Always has been

[neon roost]

Is solo shuffle or bgb the way to go if you're just aiming for 1.6k?

[molten hedge]

Bgb is free elite

Like last ssn I saw 1800 shufflers get 2.4K blitz lmao

[neon roost]

Damn, i'm just doing shuffle, but struggling getting past 1.5 atm

First time pvp though, i'm not complaining

[balmy shuttle]

you will get there in time

season has just started

[molten hedge]

1500 isn’t absolutely horrible at the moment. At the end of the ssn, you’d probably be 2k-2100 with inflation

[balmy shuttle]

definitely stick to shuffle though. you will learn all the important stuff there (cc, positioning, class CDs etc.). Blitz is more for people who really enjoy BGs

[muted abyss]

we buying head/chest first?

[molten hedge]

Check pins

Belt boots gloves then legs iirc

Crafting some. It’s in pins

[waxen meteor]

Tbh new reset 1.6 blitz is like rolling a dice

I am doing 2k mmr in 2s at week1, 1900 ish mmr in solo this week, and 1400 mmr at blitz lol

[neon roost]

Damn, hah

[waxen meteor]

You will have a lot of random teammates

Some knows how to play

Some don’t at all

[neon roost]

I am trying to get into a pvp guild, to find someone to prac 2's with. But so far all invites are pending

[waxen meteor]

Before you reach a certain Mmr, blitz is basically a luck check on how many dumb ass you run into this match

[balmy shuttle]

you can easily carry low BGB as rogue. but that's too much to expect from someone just starting out

[waxen meteor]

I started the season with hard reset mmr at 1500, with 3 straight wins, the fourth game was a 1200 mmr game

I am not sure how am I supposed to do

[waxen meteor]

True, sometimes it’s just not winnable

[gilded gulch]

the best is getting a bgb in deepwind

win the 1v2 at quarry

team still down 4-1

[waxen meteor]

Last blitz I capped 6 and def 2 nodes

[balmy shuttle]

some games aren't winnable that's true. but that shouldn't be the majority even at low mmr

[waxen meteor]

And I still lost

I am seriously so annoyed

[waxen meteor]

I really hope so…

Was 3.3 mmr last season now I am swimming at 1.3 lol

[gilded gulch]

on bases

its funny so many people

instantly trinket wall the first cheap

even without a badge or sb commit

[waxen meteor]

And was on a losing streak at 1.3 last night

[gilded gulch]

demo mm sp was somehow a 6-0 solo lobby

lock thought it was a good idea to gate across map while his healer was kidneyed behind los

just chased and finished him off

[waxen meteor]

tbh it's also a lot related to the bg itself

@balmy shuttle like Gilneas is like our home court

[gilded gulch]

its kind of funny watching a double caster team stack on top of each other

[waxen meteor]

some of those, i can match like 3 players

[gilded gulch]

afraid of dying in a smokebomb

[waxen meteor]

but in those sceanrios, you still lose, that's when you really just want to throw your computer away

as said, last Arathi Basin I soloed the mine/stable (and I am horde side) whole game

6 cap/2 def
And still magically lost!!

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-of-here-throw-trash-garbage-gif-16402986

[neon roost]

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

• Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Haste>Crit
• Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
  You want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw to lower the GCD during Adrenaline Rush.
• Subtlety: Vers>Haste to 600-700>Mastery>Crit
  Sub now uses a haste threshold to extend Dance and shorten Secret Technique's CD.
  Sub haste rating chart:
  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923898501529600/1483399511836725378/image.png?ex=69bc6d33&is=69bb1bb3&hm=21db8524f3add252a5f7556c91a39c6d076b5cbf29926a0ff3de6f1dad996660&

[neon roost]

Damn, i am lacking a lot of haste

[obtuse venture]

ye that one's obvious, ty for dk and monk tip

[muted abyss]

do your armor enchants stay when you convert gear to tier pieces?

[dark kernel]

I THINK they do, and you will be able to see when you hover at the catalyst

But I've been too nervous to waste one

[muted abyss]

Same, I've heard both ways 🙁

[gusty hedge]

they should stay but if they dont, just spend another 7k-12k

[balmy shuttle]

just take the gamble

[vocal surge]

[molten hedge]

Lvladen propaganda

[severe helm]

LOOOOL

what are the odds this is a bunch of random bg footage

HAHA first clip brawl...

the title is a very funny contrast to the gameplay

[molten hedge]

Ikr hahahaha

[rough rock]

i swear the only videos i ever see are straight up just bgs

[gilded gulch]

who tf is this

[rough rock]

hes a ret main

[gilded gulch]

well he plays male human

i should have guessed

[rough rock]

There was this cool new guy named ETZU that was playing a lot of outlaw during beta but he ended up switching to enh

[gleaming sentinel]

INSANE

[molten hedge]

You wish we had one of them for rog

[spring bough]

brb rerolling outlaw

[molten hedge]

He’s a nice guy

[gilded gulch]

you guys have pika