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crisp imp
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just press all the keys x)

stoic spruce
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What are you, a ret?

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Goober

rough rock
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OUTLAW STONKS GOING UP

crisp imp
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ye, maybe i use defs too early? im not using them as a "lay on hand" kind of thing
but you might be correct

rough rock
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(dont ask how much blade flurry hit for)

potent pivot
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Evil little cheaters

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_>

stoic spruce
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Not me though, I'm slow af

crisp imp
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in which order should i slowly dive into the world of addons? : s

stoic spruce
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That's a good question

crisp imp
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is there one which cleary shows which CD enemies are using??

stoic spruce
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That's a painful question

crisp imp
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dude is just judging my questions 😒

gusty hedge
stoic spruce
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They're in the pins

gusty hedge
stoic spruce
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Offensive CDs are no long a thing

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Sigh....

crisp imp
crisp imp
stoic spruce
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You can't track enemy offensive CDs anymore

crisp imp
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ah

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i mean, i dont wanna track times. i just want to have a big, flashy icon that tells me he is using his CD rn

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(so i can use my defs accordingly?)

gusty hedge
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Mini cc^^

crisp imp
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fine

gusty hedge
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would try midnightdrs too if you have no dr tracker

severe helm
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Yeah you can only adjust what blizz already chooses to show you

stoic spruce
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Imma need that as well

severe helm
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Cant really control much beyond that

crisp imp
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i see DR with blizzards option

stoic spruce
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Am I really really gonna have to log arenas to check my uptimes??

severe helm
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Remember when they said they were going to do it gradually

severe helm
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Genuinely so annoying

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Can't even like test talents out

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There's no fucking data

stoic spruce
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I hate it here

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They better be cooking TLT like gourmet chefs or idk what I'd do

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Probably nothing but I'll be mad

ionic crown
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are there any lua error scripts of midnightDR? i cant play game rn

gleaming sentinel
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got the delve boss down, outlawwwww

gusty hedge
stoic spruce
potent pivot
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@severe helm

severe helm
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That's the one that analyzes the game results right

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I'm down

potent pivot
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it records games

severe helm
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Tells you stuff like how often you die first etc

potent pivot
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and records the combatlog and gives u feedback based on it

severe helm
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Sick

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I'm in

potent pivot
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but i don't know if it shows u damage breakdowns

stoic spruce
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Plz try

potent pivot
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which is what i wanna know

severe helm
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If it logs it should be able to

potent pivot
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there's an addon for it on curse, but i think you also have to install the external app, like you do for WCL

rough rock
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thats the new ai skillcap thing isnt it?

potent pivot
graceful ravine
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mages have 2 blink stuns now?

molten hedge
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we said were getting gloves? crafted or the conq ones?

outer sky
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so you can tier

wary thistle
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did sub energy regen get hit with this hotfix? noticing a difference tonight (could just be me)

sleek belfry
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man i hope that addon has rizzler voiceover ai for the feedback too

graceful ravine
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!stats

lethal roostBOT
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These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

potent pivot
wary thistle
rough rock
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1-1 draw should not be a fucking loss in blitz

safe pelican
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Hooray finally level 81 time for sleep garf

tame barn
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Guys, so far ive been told that i need atleast 650-700 haste, But some pros ignore that and build full Mastery. Im not sure what to do as i have crafted both embelishments with haste, i dont know how to move forward can anyone clear things out please ?

potent pivot
lethal roostBOT
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These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

waxen meteor
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Does minicc no longer show bigdebuff number countdown anymore?

tame barn
# potent pivot !stats

ok and @potent pivot Do u know if that value (600-700) should be when pvp is ON or OFF? like stats once im in the arena or normal ?

potent pivot
potent pivot
tame barn
proven field
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anyone know a quick/reliable way to get your 2nd dawnlight manaflux

potent pivot
rough rock
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man im so close but everytime i get to this point its 6 game loss streak

proven field
stoic lava
gusty hedge
rough rock
gusty hedge
vocal surge
rough rock
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so over outlaw im ngl

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dont even care that i have 3 peices

vocal surge
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Everyone knows a sub rogue enjoys getting dominated

rough rock
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1719 now

vocal surge
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smh

rough rock
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like nobody talks no matter how much i try to call shit

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i swear getting horde side of any bg is like instant curse of a loss

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okay no more whining i que again

gusty hedge
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on my 5th attempt idk how people do this OMEGAKEKW valeera dies so quick and i die trying to revive her or dead before thatdead

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crisp imp
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hai
so. what will be conq cap in week3?

gusty hedge
rough rock
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bro this game is unreal

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im so tired of monks trying to run the flag

dark stump
gusty hedge
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blitz ^^

dark stump
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oooh

tame barn
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is 632 haste good enough boys ?

static holly
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!stats

lethal roostBOT
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These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

severe helm
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@potent pivot oh shit I didnt know it literally records it for you

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thats sick

potent pivot
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it does a lot of good stuff, especially for learners ig

outer sky
potent pivot
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it uses AI to analyze ur gameplay and tell u what u did wrong

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for very obvious mistakes

potent pivot
severe helm
outer sky
severe helm
stoic spruce
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Coming to a blue post near you

severe helm
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interesting

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calling people out af

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this is def more for learners for sure

stoic spruce
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"fixed an error that allowed players to play as Outlaw"

stoic spruce
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That's awesome

potent pivot
severe helm
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not that I can see

potent pivot
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or am i actually gonna have to start logging custom logs to WCL

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fml

severe helm
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it has to have one

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otherwise idk how it would know whats happening

potent pivot
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yeah but if they don't have an output set up to show it to you

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when shruge

severe helm
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yeah they have an "export logs" to be uploaded to skill capped I think

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but thats all

rough rock
severe helm
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I think its literally the only way unfortunately

graceful ravine
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!stats

lethal roostBOT
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These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

outer sky
potent pivot
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lots of stuff

outer sky
# potent pivot lots of stuff

So does it tell you this stuff only if those buttons could be pressed? Because otherwise it would be hard to use. Like okay the rogue died without pressing vanish, cloak, or evasion. But did he die in a stun without a trinket? Because if so he couldnt press them anyway

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potent pivot
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how am i supposed to know

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i haven't tried it yet bro KEKL

stoic spruce
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Green name btw

rough rock
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just tilt queing at this point

potent pivot
potent pivot
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Never good to play tilted

rough rock
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nothing makes me happier

potent pivot
rough rock
stoic spruce
stoic spruce
rough rock
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nah idk i went on a 10 game win streak then now its a 15 game loss streak

potent pivot
rough rock
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just feel so worthless as outlaw

outer sky
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I queued sub/mw blitz duos earlier at 2200mmr and we went 7-0

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These specs might be good

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But if outlaw stays this abysmally bad I may try and push r1 blitz on it due to no competition. I really REALLY want this season's r1 blitz horde title. If I actually did get the title "Galactic Warlord" I would never wear any other title ever again.

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LOL only 5 outlaws even have blitz rating

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stoic spruce
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Oh hey that's me

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Me when I lie

severe helm
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insane they turned mage CS back into a full 6s lockout

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its essentially an auto death

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one kick

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insanely strong

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meanwhile spriest silence 3s lol

stoic spruce
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All I hear is how good Sub/Mage/VWPriest is

severe helm
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I think most priests are playing oracle

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you dont even need vw to do damage

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it all comes from expiation

rough rock
outer sky
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It said he hunter missed his trap but it got revivaled

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Said my monk didnt hit anyone with his cloud

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But it hit the priest

outer sky
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I will do VERY degenerate things for the Galactic Warlord title

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I have a friend who's an insanely good MW monk in Blitz

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Who can queue with me

rough rock
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LETS GO I BROKE MY LOSS STREAK

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got a insane total of 11 rating! wowza!!!!!!!

severe helm
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fire mage is insanely strong rn

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I have a feeling its gona be a sub rmp xpac

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it sucks that as a healer you lose points for going 3-3 in shuffle

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and they wonder why no one heals

potent pivot
severe helm
outer sky
severe helm
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this app also does that

potent pivot
stoic spruce
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Just play with a Cuban woman. She'll tell you everything

potent pivot
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L0l

stoic spruce
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I'm still hearing about shit I did in SL lol

outer sky
potent pivot
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@spring bough i spec'd dev for like 5 min to try it while lvling and that shit felt ASS son

stoic spruce
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I've heard numerous reports that it felt halfway completed

outer sky
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Idk i just think pvp is a bit too nuanced for an addon like this. Here look. The monk parsed a 6 for healing and the hunter parsed a 12 for damage. But it didnt take into account the match up. A sub rogue game is going to be lower damage and healing because of the amount of CC

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potent pivot
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the score doesn't matter

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it's just a little thing they added for fun

severe helm
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I think youre overthinking it

outer sky
severe helm
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I mean

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a trap missed

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whether due to revival or not

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still a missed trap

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lol

outer sky
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Yeah thats not really useful. It should say it if thats the case. It also said the cloud didnt sleep anyone when it clearly did

potent pivot
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its going off you're combat log

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so if it wasn't in yours, thats what its gonna show

rough rock
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gain 11 but lose 21

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W game

outer sky
rough rock
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yeah

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last two days i get right up to 1800 then bam massive losing streak

outer sky
# rough rock yeah

Thats part of your problem. You should try and find a healer to queue with

rough rock
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yeah right like any healer wants to que with an outlaw lmao

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not wanting to spend 500000000 gold for 1 hour of 50 min que for a good healer

outer sky
rough rock
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yeah i know, 10+ loss streak is wild though

outer sky
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Especially on flag maps outlaw can be pretty good

rough rock
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earlier i was on a roll winning back to back

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i just keep jumping around

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ill try again tomorrow ig

outer sky
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Certainly you have some added

rough rock
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no lmao not good enough for that

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its all good

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30 games today was enough

outer sky
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Outlaw is probably better in blitz than it is in arena because in blitz you dont necessarily have to kill the other team to win

rough rock
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yeah i def feel like i have a impact but this rating is just so flip flop

like ive jumped from 1600 to 1783 then lost 200 then gained 150 over and over, now back at 1671 again lmao its annoying as hell these games feel like we either win from the start or lose instantly

tame barn
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do we need a 4set?

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as sub?

outer sky
potent pivot
outer sky
tame barn
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ok ok

rough rock
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i guess i can try to find a healer

potent pivot
rough rock
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ill try lfg tomorrow

outer sky
rough rock
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im constantly at a 50% win rate so ig not all bad

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although if another mw doesnt let me run the flag im gonna blow my brains out

outer sky
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For queuing solo its not yeah

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Rogue and healer queuing together and being in voice is so big

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I voiced with my MW earlier and we went 7-0

rough rock
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just look in lfg for one?

outer sky
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Worst case scenario what id do is keep queuing solo and if you happen to win a game with a healer you thought was good, whisper them and ask if they're also queueing solo and if so if they'd want to queue with you

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I've done that before

tame barn
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and wasted a piece 🙁

potent pivot
rough rock
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-24

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yeah done for sure this time lmao

tame barn
potent pivot
tame barn
outer sky
tame barn
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these are the two crafted, are they alright ?

potent pivot
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what are you showing me

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crafted dagger is kind of a waste

tame barn
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waist and weapon embelishments

crisp imp
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so sockets can only put on wrists, head and belt?

tame barn
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and the whole build

outer sky
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You'd get free ones next week

tame barn
potent pivot
outer sky
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And thats not the best embellishment

tame barn
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what is then ?

potent pivot
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its not the end of the world

tame barn
potent pivot
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ya

tame barn
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should i js make another rogue? :/

potent pivot
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no

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lmao

tame barn
potent pivot
tame barn
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xD

crisp imp
outer sky
potent pivot
dark moon
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If you're making another rogue make an orc

tame barn
crisp imp
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ty

tame barn
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like a build or something?

outer sky
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Theres a gearing guide

crisp imp
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but like on hands or legs u cant put any sockets on for pvp right?

outer sky
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Just head, waist, wrists

crisp imp
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k

tame barn
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i see

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thank u so much

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ill do that on the alliance rogue then

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but im 1.7 already on this one in 2s...idk

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thanks tho ❤️

outer sky
# tame barn ill do that on the alliance rogue then

If you have another rogue then do this;

Craft conquest level waist and boots each with haste/vers stats and the Arcanoweave embellishments. Then buy the conquest head, the conquest gloves, and the conquest shoulders and convert two of those to tier. Then next week buy the conquest legs. Then as soon as you have enough catalyst charges, convert the remaining pieces to tier to get your 4 set

tame barn
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Also what is the best race for a rogue?

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top 2 or something @outer sky

potent pivot
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for horde

outer sky
tame barn
outer sky
potent pivot
outer sky
stoic spruce
gusty hedge
outer sky
stoic spruce
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What's one more?

gusty hedge
gusty hedge
outer sky
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Is his name

gusty hedge
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there we go i thought it was something like that garf_sit

crisp imp
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!stats

lethal roostBOT
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These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

outer sky
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I have another one on my wife's account but I only ever play it to wait out the bans i get from blitz

gusty hedge
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used to see starlinkgame and thirdrogue in bgs 😂

outer sky
gusty hedge
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not sureo n blitz

outer sky
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I queue 10 man's pretty often

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Problem is the team i play with has a couple sandbags

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Our hunter loses her base in the same breath she calls for help

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But shes our leader's IRL friend

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So shes in every game

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We also have this priest who may actually be the single worst player ive ever seen in the history of this game

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She plays holy

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And once Ray of Hope ends

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You're like

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For sure dead

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She cant keep anyone up

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So our Mistweaver has to carry heals

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And she's really good but its a hard carry

gusty hedge
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sounds like fun still!! pretty much winning most bgs i bet!
all my old friends stay on classic never wanna play retail 😭
and the ones i have on retail are friends of people who hate me ingame dracthyr_hehe_animated
Solo Player For lifeglorpingspree

outer sky
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Actually now that I think about it, ray of hope was removed so now she can't even keep people up for as long as she could

outer sky
balmy shuttle
outer sky
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Like even when we lose its still fun

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I mean yeah if we spam lose every game thats gunna suck

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But that rarely happens

balmy shuttle
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They must be really consistent then. I played with that group since SL and there was a core of 4-5 players. Naturally, the roster changed from time to time. But DF/TWW the bracket just died in EU.

outer sky
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We played for the 1st time this season 2 days ago

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Fresh MMR

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And we got the same team 3x

balmy shuttle
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I heard that many EU RBG players started playing on NA servers at some point. But I never really checked how popular it really is/was over there.

outer sky
balmy shuttle
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In TWW S1 there was only us and the rank 1 group queuing. And occasionally a random low CR group. So you either got stomped or you stomped the enemy.

outer sky
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We got massacred

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But yeah I think the 10 man bracket is just dead everywhere. NA, EU, KR, TW, nobody plays this shit anymore lol

balmy shuttle
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Its hard to keep people motivated when you only play vs rank 1. Group died soon after.

outer sky
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For us its mostly a social thing not a competitive thing

solid sparrow
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if i catalyst a conquest helm will it be tier with the pvp ilvl?

static holly
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Same ilvl, yes

solid sparrow
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like with the boost in bgs?

outer sky
stoic spruce
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Unless varnish is still a thing, idr

hollow carbon
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btw, was there an update on assa talent build?

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iirc there wasnt a sudden demise build at the start

hybrid vessel
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so whats next in line gear wise? 😄

gusty hedge
hybrid vessel
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i got a tier piece (chest) in vault, do i grab and make it pvp ilvl? ive got 2p already (shoulders+hands)

gusty hedge
hybrid vessel
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oh i ment head&shoulder btw

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but i also got a lower ilvl tier piece hands i can pick

gusty hedge
hybrid vessel
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may wait it out abit and see, not in a rush 😛

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varnish is the pvp ilvl?

gusty hedge
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yeah^^

hybrid vessel
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okok 😛

pure spindle
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soo, i f..ed up. i bought conquest head and shoulders last week thinking i'd make 2set, i turned head but didnt play enough to reach 1600 for extra charge, and got tier shoulders from vault. Do i waste conquest a 2nd time to make tier shoulders pvp and save the 1600 charge for something else or do i buy new gear with conquest?

gusty hedge
potent pivot
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the faster you make 4set, the faster you get the achievement, once you get the achievement, catalyst charges start dropping from regular content instead of only bi-weekly

pure spindle
ionic crown
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FUCK BLIZZARD

dark moon
potent pivot
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Dopamine from first time crafts and delve quests is nice

gusty hedge
dark moon
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I mean tank

gusty hedge
hybrid vessel
potent pivot
outer sky
potent pivot
analog tapir
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'when do i wanna change those

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?

potent pivot
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disarm into most melee/mm hunter

analog tapir
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wich of them do i replace

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like hemotoxin or

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?

potent pivot
potent pivot
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I def felt a difference going into Dragonflight that I feel like never went away but just got used to

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Though I’ve never seen any visual bugs of my bars like in the examples among those posts

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I’ve just felt the games performance has been way worse since DF launch across the board

potent pivot
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Never drop bomb

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Can drop preemptive maneuver into certain comps because it’s probably still buggy, but it’s not really worth worrying about

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Take disarm into melee/MM, take tricks pvp talent if nothing else is needed, etc

analog tapir
spring bough
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Is this a new bug? 🤦‍♂️

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I knew it could DC. Didn’t know it could break ur bars too

dark moon
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Me neither, but sounds very disgusting

jolly sierra
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why blizzard never banned those priests for bug exploit?

dark moon
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Cause they are not exploiting anything

outer sky
jolly sierra
dark kernel
gusty hedge
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actually ur regular settings and uncheck it

proven field
stoic spruce
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I've been feeling it this expansion a lot

vague comet
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guys

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i donno where to ask

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my bnet is connecting to wrong region all of a sudden and my friend list is empty

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dafuck do i do

dark moon
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During prepatch yoi would get dc-ed if yoy were stunned mid jump while being in air.

delicate quest
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Btw- how do you effectively play shuffle? It feels so random. Sonetimes you have a healer with 50-100k damage in a whole round - then you get two dominating dps who Target Focus you and you feel alone.

Maybe it is my experience but as a sub when focused i feel useless. Is assassination better for this, since you just Stack poisons and bleed on evryone

jolly sierra
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because ppl is fully aware it will trigger a dc

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after u make them go towards the pillar

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that is well known since a lot of xps ago

hearty heath
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!stats

lethal roostBOT
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These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

outer sky
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Assassination is not currently playable in shuffle because every lobby will have a mistweaver in it and every 30 seconds the mistweaver on your team will cast this pink sleep cloud that floats around the map that sleeps people and also cleanses all debuffs and the enemy team can and will intentionally hit that cloud to remove all of your DoTs. Its extremely aids.

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But sub is better than assa in every form of pvp right now anyway

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Start simple. Just kidney healer>cheap kill target

delicate quest
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I mostly get the enemy to like 20% and then they run away or i get cc before i can kill: it becomes a 5min slug fest

outer sky
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Youre not really supposed to be able to kill people solo anyway

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So your teammate needs to do that extra damage

delicate quest
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Do you recommend focus on healer at start or just sap him and try to kill someone else?

Low elo- 1000-1500

outer sky
delicate quest
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Okay 👍 🙂

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What is the way to go in a slugfest? Try to chain cc healer and kill someone ? In 2v2 it feels easier to kill and run away to heal up and kill After getting cds back, 3v3 completely different

outer sky
delicate quest
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Okay 🙂

dark moon
dark moon
jolly sierra
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what is that kind of logic

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and yes, i wont, i wont risk my acc for a ban for unintended stuff

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playing in that way is scummy af

dark moon
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But you're not doing anything unusual. Its a bug, should get fixed

jolly sierra
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its a bug exploit

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xd

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you are fully aware you are exploiting an unintended mechanic

dark moon
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Yeah, sometimes

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So, no, you're not risking anything, unless you do something intentionally to proc the bug every time

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By your logic, everybody that stunned you while yoi were mid jump should've been banned for exploiting

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What is that logic, lol

delicate quest
dark moon
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Or if not vanish, then run behund pillar and wait

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I also learned this strat from this discord, cause i was always offensive

jolly sierra
severe solstice
dark moon
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But once i started hiding and not having anxiety for waiting 15-20 seconds behind pillar i hit 2.4 last season

jolly sierra
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u are twisting it hard

hybrid rapids
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hey guys, whats a good piece to buy as sub this week?

delicate quest
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I mean its 3v3 shuffle. Most Target all random
If i leave fight Enemy Team has it easier to focus one target

jolly sierra
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i jump everytime and never got a dc for that

outer sky
jolly sierra
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but i did by pillar mcs

hybrid rapids
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head + shoulders

outer sky
jolly sierra
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i repeat, what kind of logic is that

dark moon
delicate quest
hybrid rapids
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would it be something like chest or pants next week then?

dark moon
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But people were dc-ing left and right

outer sky
hybrid rapids
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I see, ty

jolly sierra
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was a thing?

outer sky
jolly sierra
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played rated and never got one for that

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tbf

outer sky
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For all of prepatch

jolly sierra
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ahhh, well no idea

hybrid rapids
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do enchants, gems get lost in the process of making it tier set?

jolly sierra
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i am just aware about the mc

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tbh

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never noticed the stun dc

outer sky
# jolly sierra ahhh, well no idea

Historically blizzard wont ban people for "exploiting" unless they have reason to believe youre trying to proc the bug. They generally dont expect you to just never press a certain button because it "might" proc a bug

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But some people do shit like

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Go on a DK

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And try and grip people under maps

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So they DC

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That kinda thing will get you banned

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Or at least its supposed to

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Ive seen people doing that before and they somehow dont get banned even when spam reported

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But they banned me for a week because I got spam reported for not being able to spin a base for more than 2 full minutes by myself against another rogue and a boomie in blitz

jolly sierra
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tbf

dark moon
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Blitz community is the most toxic

jolly sierra
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u can get banned for anything

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but the fair reason

dark moon
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But basically what zicore said

jolly sierra
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just with enough reports

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ppl used to report in DF for undercuts

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in orders

dark moon
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If you're just playing and it does bug then its on them

jolly sierra
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for not belonging to a profession mafia

dark moon
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If you're trying to bug it then its sus and have a fair chance of getting flagged

outer sky
# jolly sierra just with enough reports

Yeah its automatic. And ever since they took away human game masters and replaced support with an automated system, i dont think I've ever seen a ban appeal succeed

jolly sierra
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but u need to insist a lot

dark moon
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They do succeed, but you need connections

jolly sierra
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but mostly they will say reason was fair

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and keep the ban

dark moon
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They won't review the appeal so easily

jolly sierra
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in bfa i recall i got banned because i stacked the xp potions

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they didnt removed my levels anyways

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but they fucked it up hard after firing gms

outer sky
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But if you have a real issue now

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Youre just fucked

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I think completely getting rid of the customer support phone number was over the top though

jolly sierra
outer sky
jolly sierra
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so yes, moderation turned into no man land xd

jolly sierra
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when versalles HQs got closed?

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that was the beginning of the end tho

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which date i say

outer sky
# jolly sierra was it that automatic back in the day? i recall this shit started on SL

It started in MoP but didnt really pick up until WoD. Even in MoP there were human game masters in game. But they expanded website based support in MoP. Then in WoD they started the automated ticketing system and started letting the game masters go. WoD is when they did the mass customer service layoffs. That continued through Legion and then in BFA automation became the default with human game masters being rare but still present to review some high level tickets. These days its basically pure automation.

dark kernel
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This poor guy is subject to playing outlaw with his brain 😭

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dark moon
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Pure comedy

dark kernel
dark moon
jolly sierra
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we baited the guy towards thrallmar and got camped by guards

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then we shoved him in a ridge and was unable to move out

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XD

dark moon
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There was a guy in classic wow that hunted bots on hardcore and got threatened by the gold goblin mafia

jolly sierra
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we knew he was banned cuz my friend spotted that bot main in raid and asked him for that and guy got mad af

jolly sierra
vague comet
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jesus christ

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hunter's slow is so stupid

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litreally 99% slow or some shit

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what a cancer to play against i dont understand

outer sky
jolly sierra
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i got mad af for a fucking hunter doing that

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is not the 70% itself but the uptime ffs

vague comet
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i was playing against double hunter just now

jolly sierra
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they just move away fast as they do it

vague comet
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couldnt move my character

jolly sierra
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u approach and get slowed again

outer sky
jolly sierra
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i cant believe how i was fucked humillated for that

jolly sierra
severe helm
jolly sierra
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we are melee

outer sky
severe helm
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Yeah we need to be on the target

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I can't even run to cc the enemy healer when I'm on disc

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I'm waddling

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Hunters got that shit on me

jolly sierra
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they just spam shit, dazes, run away, u approach, scatter shot, disengage, run away, repeat

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that is the reason is so fkn infuriating

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u cant connect

outer sky
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I think they need to just cap all slows at 50% unless tied to a meaningful CD (at least 1 minute)

outer sky
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But they also can't do any real damage from that range

jolly sierra
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spamming knives is like opening w stun and just autoattack xd

dark moon
jolly sierra
dark moon
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It wasn't just a report

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Serious shit

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Their losses were more than 10k money irl

jolly sierra
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wtf

dark moon
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Cause blizz doesn't ban them and let's them bot

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Ye, its fucked up shit

jolly sierra
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how tf that happens by just approaching a spot?

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i say about those guys mind

dark moon
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Its not approaching a spot its ganking the bots

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Making them level again etc

jolly sierra
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sick fucks

dark moon
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Yup

jolly sierra
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i recall once i got harassed because i "called wrong" a question a random did to me in whisp

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and had like 3-4 guys harassing me from their guild doing the same xd

spring bough
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At an audit client for work today and we just baked cookies in their oven 😂

dark moon
#

any taste tests impressions?

proven field
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But yeah assa can spam slows at range but hits are like 5k, and it's only.... 55%? not super useful when you are also slowed at minimum that much

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good to at least keep them closer while you wait for vanish/cloak/step to CD

proven field
jolly sierra
spring bough
fading yacht
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for sub rogue pvp we want to max mastery/vers right? why are is our crafted gear haste/vers?

outer sky
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You want to get to 600-700 haste rating in pvp

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Then you stack mastery

fading yacht
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Gotcha. I thought we wanted as much mastery as possible. This is helpful. Thx!\

rough rock
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go on a 8+ blitz loss streak

win 1 and gain no rating?!?!

outer sky
#

FINALLY

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@jaunty osprey

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Its the same for sub

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Why cant I ping Trickz

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@potent pivot

spring bough
outer sky
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They just had to make that shit cost energy though

rough rock
#

did they ever fix the bug for it?

outer sky
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"We want the target you choose to mark for death to remain an important investment."

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This is such a load of 🐎 💩

last jasper
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lmao, i dont understand this game anymore lol

potent pivot
#

Absolute bandaid fix

molten hedge
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What’s it mean

potent pivot
#

What

molten hedge
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So you have a new button to press to swap marks?

outer sky
molten hedge
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Oh ok

static holly
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Went 0-6 because both healer went zug zug and didn't healed once 😭
Next game 3 mages..... What a nice day

molten hedge
#

So still may not have fixed the bug with immunities

outer sky
#

Off GCD is nice but the 10 yard range is a little annoying. Same as the energy cost

static holly
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Im not allowed to hit even 1600. Really annoying

outer sky
static holly
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Both

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Even against the mages I went 3-3 somehow

jolly sierra
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finally you are not forced to use fkn ambush to use that shit

outer sky
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The change is the addition of Mark for Death

jolly sierra
broken jewel
jolly sierra
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but its a nice change overall

outer sky
# static holly Both

You have to remember that healers are simple minded creatures. They've evolved to only ever look at two things; friendly frames and enemy nameplates. Doing damage is outside of their cognitive wheelhouse. It overloads their healer brains and causes them to short circuit and crash out.

outer sky
broken jewel
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when* sry

outer sky
broken jewel
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They also have to bugfix mark getting removed by spells like bop, bouble, block

outer sky
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But I havent heard it from anyone else or tested it

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Maybe ill try it in some skirms later

potent pivot
outer sky
potent pivot
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It’s all dogshit anyway

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Every facet of it

jolly sierra
potent pivot
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Lol

outer sky
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But also both dog shit and gold are sub optimal food sources

potent pivot
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Like they are right now?

outer sky
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Idk if id want to eat either

static holly
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Even with 3 a/b tier specs they would call for nerfs against rogues. Just hate

outer sky
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All of his posts are like this

static holly
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Is shuffle that sweaty because of no inflation or am I just so bad 😵‍💫 ?

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Should maybe switch to blitz... Unreal

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I still try to queue and learn but it doesn't make fun

dark kernel
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I'm 99% sure that's satire

outer sky
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Im sure its intentional hyperbole

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But his sentiments are serious

potent pivot
jaunty osprey
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for me

jaunty osprey
outer sky
severe helm
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I think they need bigger nerfs

outer sky
dark stump
outer sky
gleaming sentinel
dark stump
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isn't pala the same in term of defenseive ?
50% nerf ? lol they want us back to df

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"stealth 10 min cd/3s duration" my english is kinda b ad so i don't understand this point

outer sky
dark stump
outer sky
dark stump
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change it to no more tanks in pvp (PTSD from bg)

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outer sky
dark stump
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cause a tank druid toping damage and healing in bg , i understand why people find it hard to start pvp

outer sky
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But they also need to nerf healers so they arent doing the same things we hate tanks for doing.

Unkillable god spec that can extend games indefinitely with overpowered externals

🛡: 😡
➕️: 😃

dark stump
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disc and fistweaver need nerfs yeah
but some like resto need some help a little

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maybe i should up a ww or mm (i want to see the world burn)

outer sky
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I played 2 games of 3v3 last week that went on for over 8 minutes. They need a mechanic added to this game where if an arena match ever exceeds 5 minutes both healers just d/c and arent allowed to log back in until somebody in that game is dead

dark stump
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found this one about nerfing ww

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jaunty osprey
outer sky
jaunty osprey
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The energy part is the only concerning thing

outer sky
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Idk why they felt the need to make that cost energy

jaunty osprey
#

Yeah

outer sky
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Thats so unnecessary

jaunty osprey
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If we can apply it to totems

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would be insane

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to proc darkest night

outer sky
outer sky
jaunty osprey
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Almost like old marked for death

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but ideally you’d want to snipe stuff with this such as psyfiend, low hp pets, etc etc

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Well you could ambush totems last xpac

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and proc darkest night

outer sky
#

Monks used to have a talent that would let them AoE touch of death damage. So you could touch of death a warlock imp or DK ghoul and one shot the player that summoned it

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But they nerfed it

dark stump
#

oh btw how is assa in midnight ?

jaunty osprey
outer sky
jaunty osprey
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Assa in midnight isn’t BAD

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let’s put it that way

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it obviously isn’t S tier, but not as bad as people make it out to be

outer sky
dark stump
gleaming sentinel
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Outlaw too

jaunty osprey
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Yeah, if you play nonmonk healer into a monk healer, you’re just playing with a handicap

outer sky
#

They need to put a pvp modifier on Heart of the Jade Serpent

vocal surge
outer sky
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Its causing cocoon to be up every go

dark stump
outer sky
dark stump
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i'm low elo (1400) so he doesn't expect it

outer sky
#

You can do that but the chances of them not having a piss CD that can counter your go are pretty low

outer sky
dark stump
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am i the only one who hate going against frost mage as a melee ?

outer sky
analog tapir
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woho readched 1600 now 😄 so any changes in talent build or do i still go the sudden demise?

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was thinking caus of 2 set

outer sky
analog tapir
#

i do assa

potent pivot
ocean thunder
# jaunty osprey Assa in midnight isn’t BAD

The amount of times I have been targetted for CC the moment i use dance as sub while climbing to ....1800 (sorry not that good) makes me wonder how feasible it is to have 1min CD and people CCing you in your KB.

I did have a good time the games i played as assa though for fun

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Is there any sort of guidance on week 2 gearing? do we target 4set first thing as sub?

outer sky
dark kernel
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Target 4 set period

outer sky
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The dot it applies afterwards is nice but its not really what we press kingsbane for

dark stump
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i love playing against priest and shammy

potent pivot
dark stump
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we're wee1 or 2 ?

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week*

potent pivot
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It’s week 2 rn

ocean thunder
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week 2, but i guess we need some time for catalysts for 4 set

potent pivot
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Unless u get a pve set piece yea

severe helm
hot ermine
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How is rating calculated i dont get the discrepancy even with more wins sub is a lower rank?

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potent pivot
potent pivot
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The average MMR of the lobbies dictate how much you gain/lose from said lobbies

hot ermine
#

got it - my mmr is 2.2k for sub, guess better if rating is my goal to wait for others to rank up

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seems to be crawling

potent pivot
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Especially if more of your losses were during your placement games

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Then it takes a bit longer to crawl back up

hot ermine
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9/10 placement wins

potent pivot
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Weird

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I guess the avg mmr was just lower in your sub games

hot ermine
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yeah avg is around 18-19k

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maybe queing at wrong times

potent pivot
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Did u duo q for one and not the other

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Or all solo

analog tapir
hot ermine
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no both solo

potent pivot
#

Word jw

potent pivot
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If u pve at all then u can just hold the conq

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In case u drop a set piece

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But if not can just buy gloves

analog tapir
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okok

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i do pve but on my mage xD

dark stump
#

against cast for defensive maybe

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caster*

potent pivot
spring bough
#

this things sick they might have me sold ngl

outer sky
#

? This question doesnt make any sense. If at any point any of us win a game using blind or bomb then by definition we held them until the end of the match. Because they ended the match. So are there situations where blind or bomb wins us games? Yes, many.

spring bough
#

some shaman went off on me for my dmg and then the next round he double mine while on my team... lmao

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"shit is turbo broken" then does 2mil more than me next round lmao

potent pivot
potent pivot
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I’m just gonna start logging to WCL I guess

severe helm
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I think the 10 is just for the analysis

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im gona use it just for recording my vids

potent pivot
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Can’t see what is doing damage or why on details anymore garf_sit

severe helm
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its convenient/fast for that as far as I can tell

spring bough
#

cool asf

proven field
outer sky
severe helm
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bro they can kill you in a cap totem stun

outer sky
#

Shits gotta die in this game

severe helm
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no its a question

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whats telegraphed

dark stump
severe helm
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they have no setup for their burst

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they press 2 buttons

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and then they do 200k dps

outer sky
dark stump
#

what does telegraphed mean ?

severe helm
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it means there are indicators that youre about to take damage before it happens

outer sky
severe helm
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like they have a lot of setup for their damage

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which enhance does not

outer sky
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Literally as soon as they just theyre going global you

dark stump
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then i must be blind

severe helm
#

you arent

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their go has no setup

spring bough
#

This game is shit with the amount of people dying in globals. Imbalanced CC between classes too

potent pivot
#

A lot of shuffle matches won’t last long enough to get another set, yoloing them in the ope is kinda sus

severe helm
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yeah the burst rn makes pvp very chaotic

spring bough
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MW Los behind pillar to reset and DK goes 100% to 0 in 0.8seconds

severe helm
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people front load defensives af in shuffle

dark stump
spring bough
severe helm
#

uhdk is squishy to physical damage

spring bough
#

MW bubbles himself at 100% and shaman is 20% and dies

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Can’t make this shit up

severe helm
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so mm can kinda delete uhdk

gleaming sentinel
#

First few weeks of season are pve for me I cba lol

spring bough
#

It was against a sub and WW

outer sky
severe helm
spring bough
#

MWs been all over the place w healing too lmao

severe helm
#

their burst has no setup

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and no telegraphing

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tell me what youre watching for

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that lets you know ahead of time

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that theyre gona delete you

dark stump
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(bop is immune to physical)

ocean thunder
#

Well, in my case dps save their trinkets for bomb and the secondary dps also peels, rets lay/bop my bombs for instance. DKs have IBF and trinket

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other times healer leaps in like MW

spring bough
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Every death on this arena log I did “died when MW had bubble up” “died when MW had restoral and bubble”

outer sky
dark stump
severe helm
spring bough
#

Hate that I can’t fix healers healing to save wins lol

severe helm
#

im speaking from a healer perspective

outer sky
outer sky
severe helm
#

I am watching someone literally turn into a god

spring bough
#

“DK died with icebound up” 🪦

severe helm
#

brother im not even cced

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my target is in pain sup

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and they will die in 0.8 still

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here ill relink a vid for you

outer sky
#

Healer diff

ocean thunder
#

monks are a cheat atm

severe helm
#

yeah leme just pre pain sup both my dps next time

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thatll win me the round

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🙂

ocean thunder
#

That's enha

severe helm
#

imagine defending this LOL

spring bough
severe helm
#

insane takes

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whos stupid enough to say thats okay gameplay

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honestly

dark stump
severe helm
#

oh he pressed his 1min cd

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I should pain sup both my teammates

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............

outer sky
severe helm
#

and lose in 1 min

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or

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crazy thought

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dont defend this level of burst?

potent pivot
#

Lmao

severe helm
#

like duh?

spring bough
#

Not even time to press a button

severe helm
#

also yeah theyre 10000% dead through pain sup here hahaha

dark stump
# severe helm

mage diff should've reacted to that 1 sec burst from 75% to 12%

severe helm
#

pain sup would turn their 0.8 death into a 1.2s death

outer sky
severe helm
#

blocks on gcd bud

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nice try

dark stump
outer sky
hollow carbon
#

But it wasnt only the enha or? The Fire mage was also blasting

spring bough
dark stump
severe helm
#

nah guys this is very TELEGRAPHED

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for sure

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so easy to counter

dark stump
#

but i tought that time rewind was automatic or do i remember it wrong

severe helm
#

nope

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its manual

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or goes off when expires

dark stump
spring bough
#

2 solo shuffle ques and im done for the day. Trying my luck in blitz lol

dark stump
rough rock
#

should i just level my other rogue to play sub? I dont think my stats will work if i try to swap my outlaw with the gear it has

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then again id just be behind a week wasting conq on heralds

gleaming sentinel
severe helm
#

having two of a class is nice in pvp

severe helm
dark stump
outer sky
potent pivot
severe helm
#

jsut pre block the round

potent pivot
#

Read his fucking mind lole

gleaming sentinel
#

Gotta pre the pre homie

severe helm
#

pre block the queue pop

dark stump
ocean thunder
#

supatese said outlaw is sleeper op and if sub is nerfed rogues will go outlaw 😄

severe helm
#

he mostly has inaccurate takes

gleaming sentinel
spring bough
#

YK what I’ve been doing to sub rogues? Spectral sight and shift to them and auto stun them into a fear cause fk their dmg and CC kekdog

rough rock
severe helm
#

I dont think hes ever posted a tier list that is even remotely accurate to how the season plays out

dark stump
severe helm
#

ngl dazed's winlosses are lowkey hella sus

spring bough
rough rock
#

Well to be fair, fuck this spec

dark stump
outer sky
gleaming sentinel
outer sky
gleaming sentinel
#

Explain this to me like I’m 5

rough rock
gleaming sentinel
outer sky
gleaming sentinel
#

Oh oh

dark stump
gleaming sentinel
#

Outlaw is just low becuase sub is easier. Dazed is like 80% win rate!

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My king my goat

pliant mauve
#

Weird. Assa feels generally ok to me. Got to 1700 with way less effort than last season.

outer sky
dark stump
potent pivot
dark stump
#

or did i read wrong

fiery turret
#

as sub, is it viable to use sword in off-hand?

pliant mauve
#

lol crimson is the only thing I actually don’t like. I’d rather have indiscriminate carnage back.

outer sky
# dark stump or did i read wrong

Last season bleeds spread for you. You didnt have to do anything besides press them on one target and they'd spread. Hard to imagine it being easier than that now

dark stump
#

ooooh

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didn't play last season so didn't know mb

pliant mauve
#

Rupture was manual wasn’t it?

outer sky
#

It spread just like garrote

pliant mauve
#

Oh yeah. Damn. They should give that shit back.

severe helm
outer sky
rough rock
#

new notes

pliant mauve
#

On an unrelated note, have you guys seen these Wyrmrest idiots with the BFA inscription contract being absolute menaces in wpvp. Annoying as hell trying to get a crate.

potent pivot
outer sky