pvp

[broken jewel]

I tea bag 99% of the ne rogues i have to man, it's mandatory

[gilded gulch]

and no one good really plays bgs beyond farming honor

[broken jewel]

Yeah, i know , just saying... was trying to gear an alt and it's atrocious

[dark moon]

decided to do nullaeus on ?? before going on the first level and im proud of myself

[gilded gulch]

i just really dont care

i do like when druids wall air and i just gouge blind re on them

[outer sky]

Excuse me?

[gilded gulch]

meme race

[broken jewel]

ban him

[outer sky]

Meme race that beat Slunks and Dallas last night

[gilded gulch]

who tf is that

[broken jewel]

[outer sky]

Very good players

Just not good enough

[gilded gulch]

never heard of either

[gleaming sentinel]

nice

[rough rock]

Tempted to make a goblin alt

Used to have a shit ton of them lma

[hybrid sapphire]

whats the good news fellow rogues

[molten hedge]

No rog nerfs in the notes that just dropped. Arms buffs guardian nerfs

[hybrid sapphire]

guardian removal inshallah

[potent pivot]

is liquid just not playing today or

[outer sky]

Need to remove prot pally

I think this guy needs to dial 988

[hybrid sapphire]

well he's right

[dark moon]

ofc hes not have you seen ferals?

and they are getting buffed kek to the w

[hybrid sapphire]

i mean the countering the boogeyman part

[dark moon]

oh, ye

we're like mini John Wicks

[outer sky]

Pencil transmogs inc ✏️

[dark moon]

im rockign this atm

"I once saw him kill three men in a bar with a pencil"

[outer sky]

Im a fan of that series

I own every gun he used in it

And even the switchblade knives

[dark moon]

it was a good movie ye

[outer sky]

Theres 4

And theyre all really good

[dark moon]

ok, good franchise

was it the 3rd one in which there was a blind guy

that fought him?

i got the point of it, but it was a bit too much

[outer sky]

4th

The 3rd one was the worst one

But still good

If the first movie was a 100

The second was a 150

The 3rd was a 75

And the 4th was like a 250

The 4th one had the TTI Pit Viper 2011 in it omfg 🥵 🔥 🔥

[lime oar]

the european mind could never comprehend such a fine weapon

[outer sky]

Nah my parents are from Italy and they also think its 🔥

[lime oar]

italy doesn’t count

[dark moon]

i feel offended

but anyway, watching nahj atm, and he was facing enh war and enh popped cds and double killed nahjs team

so i guess sub is op

[outer sky]

Enh is getting nerfed tomorrow

[dark moon]

is it?

[outer sky]

Yeah let me find the notes

[dark moon]

i dont think 4% dmg will do anything

[outer sky]

Thats ele

[dark moon]

oh three's more

ye ye, its 2 am, im not reading carefully

Feral
All damage increased by 9% in PvP combat.

question mark

[outer sky]

Feral ain't doing great rn

[dark moon]

what

its pretty gnarly atm imho and it would defo be some serious shit with those buffs

why do they keep buffing affli goddamn it

the most boring spec to face

after bm/demo

[outer sky]

Because its garbage

I dont even know if these buffs will be enough

Shadow Bolt hits for like 10k

So now it'll hit for 20k lol

[hybrid sapphire]

TIL the arenas have music wtf

[dark moon]

https://www.twitch.tv/nahj/clip/FancyCovertYogurtPhilosoraptor-i8OwWq-jPugmcon4

[gilded gulch]

feels any season enh is good

its for nuking people

[dark moon]

yeah, nahjs healer died in a global

3 seconds of leg sweep left when he died

[unique garnet]

outlaw is such a joke

[dark moon]

i didnt think of recording 1 or 2 arenas earlier, the same enh popped cds and killed both nahj and one of his team at the same time, like they are mobs in a dungeon

[unique garnet]

Im in the 1300 rankings when last season I was like 2100

Idk what im doing wrong i cant apply pressure

[outer sky]

Idk i think its fine. I like bursty metas and I think the game is better when, if a dps spec pops its CDs, people actually do freak out and panic.

[rough rock]

[outer sky]

Nahj could have stopped that burst too. He had trinket and disarm. Disarm shuts down enh burst. He knows that. So like the counterplay was there. If Nahj didnt press the buttons he had then the enh deserved the kill imo

[dark moon]

I think its too bursty

Hopefully tomorrow it would take at least another global to kill someone 100-0

[outer sky]

It will

[potent pivot]

faceroll is fun tho

[unique garnet]

everyone is telling me to play sub

[stoic spruce]

He says that like not every spec in the game is faceroll

[stoic spruce]

Yeah

Only real choice

[dark moon]

Do it before its nerfed into oblivion

[outer sky]

Are any more tuning passes preplanned?

[gleaming sentinel]

I refuse

[unique garnet]

same here

[rough rock]

Quad hooks did matter when enemy team has 2 dks it was brutal but still capped for the win lmao

[unique garnet]

I can't wait for the

outlaw is good, just requires someone with high iq to play it

[outer sky]

Just play evoker. You can cover the same amount of distance as outlaw but be totally immune to grips and any CC at all while youre doing it

[rough rock]

thats gross

sub will die soon anyways

actually dont even care about the damage, just doesnt deserve to have the defensives it has

[outer sky]

Nah the most offensive thing is the mobility

Not having quick decisions feels terrible

Not having 25 yard vanish>strike feels terrible

[rough rock]

No because everyone would say if outlaw had damage and cc it would be too broken

yet its fine with sub

[outer sky]

?

You new here?

[rough rock]

Thats what everyone used to say last expac

[outer sky]

EVERYBODY is bitching

[potent pivot]

next reset as well yeah

[outer sky]

Thats it? So if we survive one more week we're safe?

[potent pivot]

17th/24th/31st and maybe 7th

but the first 3 would be the big ones

then we wait til .5

[unique garnet]

top 15 outlaw vs sub

[potent pivot]

next week's might be kinda big too

cuz the last raid opens

[potent pivot]

i'm debating buying a 70->80 and a 60->80 for some old alts

think its only like 100k ea

[outer sky]

If you need gold hmu

But I still need someone to find an 80-90 speed level spot

I will spend MILLIONS

[unique garnet]

id be top 20 if i didn't keep queing

[outer sky]

To get my alts boosted

[potent pivot]

i really don't think it exists this season

maybe if they add a mini zone in the .5 patch

but i doubt it

[outer sky]

It doesnt need to be quick

It just needs to be afk

[potent pivot]

they wouldn't still be doing selfplayed dungeons

if anything else existed

[outer sky]

And not SUPER long

[potent pivot]

they are quite incentivized to find this stuff lol

[gusty hedge]

dazed with taht 28-8 tho

https://tenor.com/view/sheesh-sheesh-meme-gif-23678188

[molten hedge]

im excited to try it tomm

for jungle

[severe helm]

I hear 70-80 is less than an hour just doing campaign tww

I need to level my duplicate alts now that I'm pvping again lol

[gleaming sentinel]

COULD BE US BRO, NEVVER GIVE UP

[rough rock]

barely positive and ready to give up

[stoic spruce]

I've heard from people that fought against Dazed that outlaw is borderline immortal

[gleaming sentinel]

thats the spirit

[gleaming sentinel]

my goat playnig double van like a real one

[rough rock]

also i know everyone is agaisnt KS with FB but all the top outl;aws are running it and ngl i just tried it and it slaps

[stoic spruce]

Makes sense rbh

[rough rock]

Actually felt like i had some pressure

[gleaming sentinel]

double vanish and the absorb embellishments and enchants kinda sounds fun

[stoic spruce]

I agree

I'm gonna run that and see for myself

[gleaming sentinel]

too busy on my pve arc atm, will q soon

[stoic spruce]

Damn I lowkey might be on mine too

I should finish leveling my characters tbh

Get that out the way

[gleaming sentinel]

keys next week and shuffle all time low in mmr? no brainer

[stoic spruce]

Leveling my warr after my other dk

I got a feeling about warr

I feel like there's something in the future that I can't explain

[grave basin]

Warrior could do a billion damage and still be complete cancer to play

They lost so many root breaks i swear rage is like an irl resource while playing warrior in 3/4 of lobbies

[grave basin]

What i wanna know is how is blitz so inflated while shuffle has multi r1s barely scrapping 2k

[gleaming sentinel]

they like blit

[potent pivot]

really? lmao

i know the lvl boosting is like 1hr afk as they spam kill mobs

i guess ill have to try it

i also want to break out the warlock i haven't touched since SL though so its still 60

[gleaming sentinel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/volleyball-60

me using feint

[rough rock]

aff?

[rough rock]

okay yeah this kinda slaps i basically now do as much damage as sub doing backstab outside of shadow dance

[potent pivot]

Ya

That’s the only lock spec I like, or liked back then

Basically ranged assa

https://nether.wowhead.com/video-stream/413059-valeeraping?dataEnv=1&locale=0

nice

didn't know that worked like that

[rough rock]

SAME

caps

pressed KS a totally of 3 times lmao

[ocean thunder]

how really? how do you level fast? I have even seen some pull all delve tactics

[potent pivot]

i don't think this seems to be the case anymore. because there's something you'd use in TWW/prepatch to get more exp bonus

now it seems that 70-80 questing is a couple hours

[potent pivot]

for 80-90 i have all relevant information in a pinned thread

[ocean thunder]

thanks!

[potent pivot]

there's an addon that guides you through all delves+some questing, can do it in ~3 hours or so

depending on how many 90s you have for the bonus exp

then there's the shadowguard delve spam when its on the correct daily rotation, thats also a few hrs

it doesn't work very well for a couple specs that suck at aoe

but most specs can blast it

[severe helm]

aaah damn

yeah it was about pre patch xp bonus

but they removed that?

lame

[potent pivot]

the dreamsurge whatever thingy is gone ye

rn you can do first time tww crafts for a couple levels, then quest

but still takes some time

harldan says u can get to 78 or 79 from first crafts, but idk

gotta do it in the dreamsurge zones cuz they give +5% and you get the war mode bonus being outside the city as well

[severe helm]

ye was gona ask about that

does first time tww crafts not eat into first time midnight craft xp cap?

cuz if so then thats sick

[severe helm]

okay thats crazy

[potent pivot]

idk

what is the cap

ik i only ever see people do like 2 profs

[severe helm]

idk in midnight it seems to drop off significantly past like 1.5 levels

yeah you barely even need 2 full profs of first time craft before they stop giving much xp

[potent pivot]

did u see the 1-80 WR

from lemix

sub 2 minute

[stoic spruce]

You remember that time rift stuff from DF? My rogue still has the buff that guarantees a piece of gear upon next time rift completion

[safe pelican]

Bout to just spam delves till I’m 90

Don’t feel like doing shiiiiiettt

[rough rock]

is the bee farm not valid for leveling 70-80?

[safe mural]

Hi, it's normal i didnt have any pvpgame (except random arena 2v2) ? i wait 40min for Epic BG !

(im new in pvp)

[rough rock]

nobody really doing ebgs rn

[safe mural]

ok

so where we going

[rough rock]

que regular

[safe mural]

non-epic bg ?

[rough rock]

if youre farming honor i would just do bgs and then for conq just do crates

yeah

[safe mural]

ok i try thx

rated have players too ?

i cant tag in 2V2 3v3 and 10v10 rated

[potent pivot]

you have to be in a group to queue those

all rated types have players except RBG

solo q/shuffle/blitz, 3v3, 2v2, etc

[final dew]

so i DL all the recommended addons in pinned section - not sure if they are overlapping or not, but does anyone recommend any specific imports for them? (sub rogue)

[potent pivot]

some of them overlap yes

specifically the DR trackers

[final dew]

im ok with the overlap, the base Platynator is booty though. are people still using Wago for imports?

[potent pivot]

barely

but jundies profile is on wago

would just get that one

[rough rock]

why did blizzard put 3 boomies on the enemy team

with a lock and 2 dks

[stoic spruce]

Just in case you forgot blizzard hates you

[safe mural]

euh

i'm tag in a 1vs2 arena

i cry ?

[dark kernel]

this is fucking hilarious

[stoic spruce]

Ngl bro

That's some tech you keep to yourself lol

[dark kernel]

oh yeah?

[stoic spruce]

For sure

[dark kernel]

nothing was said

[stoic spruce]

Agreed

[dark kernel]

[potent pivot]

Now I gotta know

[stoic spruce]

Can't you read deleted chats?

[dark kernel]

@potent pivot theyre back

well im going to bed

someone will get it

[stoic spruce]

Nighty night

[finite hinge]

arenacore causing lua errors for you as well?

[rough rock]

"Outlaw hold x dont spin"

yeah bro no problem i just cant defend myself for anything but okay

meanwhile sub can outheal for 500 million health

gravedigger for blitz just feels so bad

[finite hinge]

@upbeat anchor

[upbeat anchor]

!ban @wanton kiln

[potent pivot]

nop

[graceful ravine]

we dodged the nerf hammer this week?

[severe helm]

@dark kernel first queue on this character

queues are fucking AWFUL rn

idk why im even trying to queue dps its like impossible

[final dew]

Yup

Any tips for getting better at arena (2v2) as a clicker? I can 1v1 most people, confidently, but not great in 2s. Im playing with random people so I know that doesn't help, but aside from DR addons and other addons (I hated the arrow and class icon huge on my screen that I think arena frames does, and I hated platynator even more). I know, keybinding is better, but I've clicked for 15 years in wow.

[graceful ravine]

u must be trolling lmao

or ragebaiting

[final dew]

Im not at all

Genuine question. As a clicker, much of my focus is on my action bars, and I cant really see when people pop defensives other than the animation on them. I was hoping platynator would be decent so I could configure to ONLY see specific defensives, by class, but it doesn't seem thats possible.

[potent pivot]

genuinely not trying to be a dick, but you gotta learn keybinds

[rough rock]

-200 rating

[potent pivot]

clicking is so insanely bad

[rough rock]

amazing

FUCK SUB

[final dew]

I bought a tartarus v2 awhile back and tried that with no success, then I bought a azerog cyro a couple weeks ago but havent tried it yet

[potent pivot]

BUS KCUF??

[rough rock]

broken ass class

cant wait till its gone

[potent pivot]

you don't need anything fancy man. just a keyboard

[final dew]

I've always gotten s**t from friends about clicking, but like I said I beat most people

[potent pivot]

nerf outlaw, buff sub. got it.

[final dew]

At least in a 1v1

[rough rock]

[potent pivot]

no1 cares about 1v1s tbh

if you care about being competitive, learn keybinds

[final dew]

I even bought a naga trinity to click and be able to use the side buttons for binding, was so bad at it. My brain needs a full rewire

Thought about leveling yet ANOTHER rogue and only using bindings on it. Though pve is the worst thing ever

[potent pivot]

You don’t need another character

Just start out small and increase in increments

Bind 1-2-3, get used to it

Bind Q-E-R, get used to it

So on and so forth

[fathom crag]

am i missing smth or the game has never been dead like that on a early s1

[potent pivot]

Once you learn it the game will feel like an entirely different game

[severe helm]

its pretty dead yeah

[potent pivot]

I think there’s something wrong with mmr on the back end

[severe helm]

very

[potent pivot]

Something def feels strange

[final dew]

Ill give it another go. Definitely reached my limit on clicking and actually getting rating. Couldn't get past 1200 rating

[fathom crag]

i know mw ruins the game but still

[severe helm]

yeah somethings very broken but I have a feeling they wont touch it

[rough rock]

another loss for the books

7 game loss streak

[final dew]

At what rating

[rough rock]

1700

idk why i cant ever get the dks on my team

[final dew]

1700 queuing with randoms?

[rough rock]

i mean its blitz

[final dew]

Oh gotcha

I'm 32/148 rounds and 1220 rating

Dont feel too bad

Do you guys find that macros which change a move based on stealth or not are actually viable?

#showtooltip
/cast [stealth] Shadowstrike; Backstab

#showtooltip
/cast [stealth] Sap; Blind

Etc.

[potent pivot]

not really recommended generally speaking

not only do they just unnecessarily overcomplicate things, they don't always work correctly because of stance lag

[static holly]

Spamable stealth is all u need

[final dew]

Fasho

[vale steppe]

Any reliable nameplate dr addons?

[potent pivot]

pins

[vale steppe]

Platynator? @potent pivot

[potent pivot]

no

[vale steppe]

There is no other in pins, minicc is not it

Arena core?

[potent pivot]

yes, there is others in the pin

[vale steppe]

Arenacore then..? @potent pivot

[potent pivot]

no

[rough rock]

bro lmao

[potent pivot]

it even says it

"NAMEPLATE DRS"

[vale steppe]

Oh i checked pvp pins?

[potent pivot]

are u on mobile or some shit

[vale steppe]

I am

[potent pivot]

click the pin

with your little finger

to see the whole thing

[vale steppe]

I linked all I see

You clearly see I only see 3 addons

[potent pivot]

brother

click the pin

and it will show u the entire thing

[vale steppe]

Also midnight dr is not working properly

Unreliable unfortunately

[potent pivot]

it is

[vale steppe]

No it misses dr in arena

[potent pivot]

i haven't had any issues with it

especially in arena

in BGs/wpvp it has very limited functionality because of blizzard limitations

[vale steppe]

I have a few problems with it, mostly with sleepwalk dr

[severe helm]

I tried arenacore

its just visually so weird

went back to sarena

much nicer

[potent pivot]

its the only option you've got for nameplates

so

[vale steppe]

Yeah sucks

[potent pivot]

only other nameplate dr addon has errors out the wazoo unfort

[severe helm]

im having issues with nameplate and target drs

[potent pivot]

do u want my profile u nub

[severe helm]

no I went to sarena

much nicer

[vale steppe]

Guess I try to get used to sarena, just changing icons

[potent pivot]

sarena is dogshit

[severe helm]

its much much nicer lol

the settings are easier

[potent pivot]

the DRs and all kinds of shit bug all the time

[severe helm]

havent had that issue

[potent pivot]

DRs just disappear

[severe helm]

I think theres certain addon pairs

that dont work well

[potent pivot]

i had no other addons for dr

[severe helm]

my arena core wouldnt show me who I had on focus

was very annoying

[potent pivot]

u are just bad

pwomise

[vale steppe]

@potent pivot arenacore better?

[potent pivot]

yes

[severe helm]

also it kept reordering specs even with the framesort integration

like arena 1 wouldnt be in slot 1

[vale steppe]

Can you change icon on drs? @potent pivot

[potent pivot]

no

no addon can do that

you have to manually change files for that

[vale steppe]

Nah guess I change pictures in files then

[potent pivot]

for enemy dr

@severe helm

my target is orange and my focus is a texture

works perfectly

[severe helm]

I dont want texture

I want one color for focus one for target

border

literally was like setup already

just moved the cast bars

and done

10/10

[potent pivot]

dogshit

[severe helm]

so much better

[potent pivot]

really isn't though

[vale steppe]

8/10, I want clear colors on trinket, red or green

[severe helm]

what is a clear color?:

like see through?

[vale steppe]

So trinket is replaced with a green or red box

[severe helm]

the fuck

then how do you know when they get their trinket back

[vale steppe]

Numbers ticking down with big font

I don’t need to see the literal icon of the trinket, I know how that look 😂

[severe helm]

isnt that kind of not in the same system as every other button in the game

you can tell its on cd by it having a cooldown on it

no numbers = ready

numbers = not ready

lol

[vale steppe]

Nah bad, just a green or red box is bis

[final dew]

Yes lol

[potent pivot]

for which, arena core?

should be able to just copy/paste that as an import

[rough rock]

man i was at a 60% win rate yesterday this bracket is fucking hell id just like one game where i have the dks and boomies

[jaunty terrace]

hey guys, any good plater (or similar) to see important stuff in PvP, for exemple I can't see if healer is under precog or dps is disarm...

[potent pivot]

there's a list of addons in the pins

you don't need all the dr addons, there's multiple options of those

[jaunty terrace]

I'll check thanks

[jaunty terrace]

the only plater addon is platynator, but without profile I won't download it, I have the rest

[potent pivot]

jundies profile on wago i decent

can try that as well

[jaunty terrace]

this the one I have

and I swear

no precog, no disarm

it's mostly PvE oriented

[potent pivot]

thats not the point of platy

other addons do that

like minicc im pretty sure

minicc has what used to be "bigdebuffs"

[jaunty terrace]

yep

so it's impossible to see in the nameplate bar some debuff/buff?

only in the party frame,

[potent pivot]

no idea

minicc has a precog setting

thats all i know

[jaunty terrace]

I know but it's precog on yourself

I want to see precog on enemies 🙂

[potent pivot]

idk

ik i see it on enemies

pretty positive

[jaunty terrace]

but how

[potent pivot]

i thought it was just minicc

[grizzled basin]

I'm getting crazy : we used to be able to check out the class set pieces iin-game directly with the adventure guide, it's not the case anymore ? And I cant find anywhere the info otherwise (even wowhead only shows transmog + tier bonuses in their articles)...

[potent pivot]

https://www.wowhead.com/item-set=1987/motley-of-the-grim-jest

you can link the item to yourself in game chat from your appearance tab

thats about it

[grizzled basin]

Thanks, too bad they removed the tab in the adventure guide

[wanton breach]

can't have actually useful information readily available sorry

have a lookt at your delve progress instead, bitch

i was looking for that information last week

[severe helm]

It's still there

Go to collections

Sets

Then shift click the set into chat

[novel terrace]

Queue timers

[novel terrace]

eyyyyy got my set

[hybrid vessel]

dang gz

just started that grind myself

[novel terrace]

It's fairly chill if you fill your role

[hybrid vessel]

i would say its more rage inducing than chill but

😄

done it on several chars so far but missing rogue

[dark kernel]

That's legitimately surprising my man. As priest might be pretty popular though even compared to the condition Rogue is in

I'm just going to say my keys were probably fast cuz it was Sunday night

Prime queuing moment

[twin burrow]

are there any addons around, i see nahj using a buttload

[balmy shuttle]

Finished Midnight S1. What do I do now?

[dark kernel]

Play arena

[stoic spruce]

2s and 3s specifically

Not shuffle

That's for lameos

[broken jewel]

seething atm (deleted message) ruining my winrate 2x healer 300k hp in blitz on alt

why isn't there a full honor requirement to que so u don't waste everyone's time?

and u don't blow up in3 globals and have a miserable experience yourself

[broken jewel]

big gz

[dark moon]

Do it again with every class/spec, so yoy have something to do in the next few weeks

[stoic lava]

Deans already 3100 u got some room to go still

oh you're eu

[balmy shuttle]

IMO, investing more time into Blitz after Elite (or Strategist if you care) isn't worth it. I semi-tried to push feral rank 1 TWW S2 (EU), but I don't want engage in queue dodging/queueing after 1AM/win-trading/duo queue abusing etc.

[balmy shuttle]

I am considering this, but spending 5 hours every session in tool and dealing with the toxicity gives me PTSD. I don't have any social network to take advantage of.

[stoic lava]

ye thats fair

I think bgb is fun

rank 1 push is stressful for sure though

[dark kernel]

That's crazy. Blitz is far and away the absolute worst bracket for toxicity by a mile

I turn my chat off to play that mode and only do it limitedly because the skill level and people are just dog shit humans half the time

[analog tapir]

do this also apply in pvp ? or just pve?

[turbid dawn]

Both

[analog tapir]

ok

[balmy shuttle]

There might be heated arguments in BGB, but you don't have to face any consequences. If you find a 3s group via tool and people call you "dogshit" after a few games and kick you, you have to start from square one. And if you are rude in return you might burn bridges you could have utilized in the future because the player pool is so small.

[dark kernel]

Yeah but the thing is at a higher rating a lot of players start understanding those factors and holding back a bit unless they're unhinged

[gleaming sentinel]

The 1am Q sessions between people who share bnet is the most sus shit ever

[dark kernel]

Fortunately my guild has a TON of players and way too many healers

And everyone is like minimum 2200+ in 3s to glad

There's a few out there if you search, but you may prioritize pve

[dark moon]

Is tha eu or na guild?

[dark kernel]

NA

[balmy shuttle]

That's a fortunate position to be in. Since I haven't engaged in 3s for a long time I am confident that I won't be on the level expected by most of the decent 3s players. I have been playing mostly Shuffle and Blitz and would need quite some time to adapt to 3s pacing and voice communication.

[dark kernel]

Happens faster then you think. A lot of people get queue anxiety these days interacting with people

[vale steppe]

As outlaw?? GG man! Wp

[gusty hedge]

bgb

[vale steppe]

Oh lol

Though it was shuffle

[balmy shuttle]

Highest player in shuffle in EU is 2165 xD

[rough rock]

WWWWWWW

Drop your build

Got stuck in the 1600-1800 rating hell

[vale steppe]

Yeah I thought so.. I think I was r30 on 1.9 something. So make sense

[gleaming sentinel]

I’ve seen seasons of bgb where people get rank 1 range at the start and basically never have to Q the rest of the season for the title

The mmr swings in that bracket are silly

[balmy shuttle]

build is quite irrelevant. forget that you are outlaw (for the most part). you are a rogue. sap, blind, stun. cap bases, peel for your FCs and pick up the occasional flag yourself. 👍

[spring bough]

Bout to log on later to Devourer for it to be blasting

[jaunty terrace]

any good community to find people for bg / arena in EU?

[vocal surge]

Me n a buddy were talking about Dubstep from the mid 2010s

and I just found the Complextro mix I used to listen to

[severe helm]

It's not worth it haha

[dark kernel]

Dude I played sub last night with a turret disc priest

That shit is so fucking ridiculous

Disc out damaging every single DPS class Lmao

I gave this fucker Tricks of the trade and he's doing 40k DPS in arena

[outer sky]

Mistweaver is like this too

[dark kernel]

Look at this shit lol

I'm not in these, it's just his matches

[outer sky]

Yeah i was doing a boost for a Mistweaver this weekend and he did like 80% of my damage every game it was sick

I know disc can do it too

But disc loses a good bit of healing for that

Mistweaver doesnt lose much

[dark kernel]

This is a fair point

[spring bough]

Bout to level my void disc

[crisp imp]

so, in pvp, i have ~710 haste
still in the tree the talent for extened blade dance says i have about 1,5 seconds extra

shouldnt it be like 2? bug? what am i missing?

[dark kernel]

Essentially you don't need a FULL second of dance to get an ability off in the global

So we're balancing haste to account for that, as well as for the increased attack time of Coup De Gras

[waxen meteor]

afk now

[spring bough]

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[outer sky]

You maintain that rank all season

[spring bough]

Anyone checked this out??

[crisp imp]

where is that list again with the haste % and time?

[crisp imp]

thx
what gems should be used?

[outer sky]

Mastery/vers

[crisp imp]

ty

[dark kernel]

What in the world

That....is interesting let me look

[dark kernel]

That is a very very cool idea

Very Warhammer esque

[spring bough]

World PvP revitalized by an addon?

[vocal surge]

Lol

[abstract stratus]

Anyone try sin with the extra 4%

We sitting slightly more pretty now?

[molten hedge]

Do you boys have any advice on how to deal with hunters as rmp? Should my mage just afk behind a pillar in between setups to avoid the hunter @outer sky @potent pivot @severe helm @jaunty osprey

[severe helm]

Hunter eats mage yeah

What comps is it you're facing

[molten hedge]

Mostly cupid and jungle I think

My mage is playing frost so he’s a bit tankier

[severe helm]

Yeah tbh those are just tough ones for rmp historically

Is it mm rn mostly?

Mm feels kinda overtuned

[molten hedge]

Bm does a lot of dam too rn but yeah mm is the scarier one

I remember playing arcane a couple seasons ago and I’d step off a pillar and almost die from one rapid + aimed lmao

[jaunty osprey]

Gas pedal them

you need to somehow get momentum

If you just play to survive, you won’t be able to do anything

When trueshot is gone, no point of running

[grave basin]

NA UP

[outer sky]

Seriously? No queues in either solo bracket?

I cant even get a skirm???

[jaunty osprey]

😂

[grave basin]

lets fucking go bby

tier in vault

[spring bough]

Lucky dawg

[jaunty osprey]

I got gloves in mine 🙁

[grave basin]

bis piece too

[spring bough]

I’m saying 1000 prayers when I get home

Have every slot unlocked please god just 1 piece I don’t have already

[molten hedge]

Interesting. I was kind of thinking to afk bc if you watched AWC when kalv played hdk, he’d just 1v1 Mes behind a pillar in between set ups so I thought that might be a good strategy

But I realize that’s Kalvish lol

[grave basin]

now i need one more tier piece and i got the achievement to get catalyst chargers

[jaunty osprey]

AWC you play to trade CDs and live

[spring bough]

Can’t wait to log on Devourer and absolutely nuke people later

10% st giga

[outer sky]

Ok

Assa rogue is not playable in shuffle with all of these monks

that stupid cloud is so annoying

bleeds cleanses the entire enemy team

[severe helm]

oh damn it still cleanses?

thats toxic

[outer sky]

yeah

[gleaming sentinel]

Suffering from success

[delicate quest]

Why so? In the pvp gearing guide it says haste/versa

im unsure if i should get to the 14-15% haste or just push for massive mastery

Playing solo Shuffle low ranked (Like no experience on rogue)

[outer sky]

Are you looking on Icey Veins?

[delicate quest]

No, the onepinned here

[outer sky]

Its because you should hit the haste breakpoint with just your gear. So you dont need to add any more with gems

[delicate quest]

Ah. Thanks.

[jaunty terrace]

love 26 min queue for win +0

[severe helm]

yeah pvp queue times are fucking awful right now

mmr is artificially flattened too not sure why

[jaunty terrace]

better to have 4P with 2P PvE than 2P + honor stuff?

[jaunty osprey]

ASSA STONKS

[severe helm]

lol does he work there?

[jaunty osprey]

Nah he’s talking about right now

But Aiden does work for AWC, he does their cameras

[severe helm]

oh did assa just get buffed?

[spring bough]

Nice 4% like outlaw

[severe helm]

pisslaw

[spring bough]

Outlaw is called Devourer now for me

[analog tapir]

Wtf happend with murlok?

[severe helm]

a lot of the pvp websites are kinda fucked rn

checkpvp like eats all my ram if I leave it open

very weird

and the talent preview/data on drustvar wasnt functioning

maybe along with the addon api change they also fucked the armory api haha

[jaunty terrace]

what you guys are doing during solo shuffle queue, this is so long...

[rough rock]

Murkok does that too for me

[severe helm]

yeah didnt used to be like this

not sure whats going on

[rough rock]

Caching issue which is stupid because it’s only supposed to pull data every 8 hours

[blazing lava]

hey guys what the piece of tier set that we skip for pvp for sub?

[rough rock]

So I’m assuming memory leak somewhere lmao

[rough rock]

Come on man you don’t like pressing blade rush and doing 10k damage?

We are a ramp spec like devourer!

[severe helm]

a 20% buff wouldnt even make outlaw hit hard haha

[last jasper]

I legit never seen this ui row to pop even once. Is it bugged?

[rough rock]

Lmao yeah it needs some serious changes to its rotation

Zero in needs to be halfed and do the same stacks but ig in mythics it’s different I assume

[spring bough]

Yeah when dev ramps I can do like 150-200k in one collapsing star lmao

Or spam 3 devours and do 300k

[rough rock]

Jesus

[spring bough]

Devour gonna crit for 115k ish or a lil more today with buffs

And it’s instant cast most of the time

[rough rock]

I try to line up my BTE buffs but by that time I’m already dead trying to cap a flag or 1v1

Shit by the time I even get gravedigger I’m already 1/4th health

[last jasper]

wdym? cull? it needs souls to be collect first

[rough rock]

I also just realized my undead pulls me out of stealth

Because of touch of the grave 🤣

[spring bough]

Consume (Devour) is instant cast after reap (cull/eradicate)

Can hit reap without souls out there to consume

Second you go demo form it’s slapping dmg

[last jasper]

consume 100k crit?

👀

[spring bough]

Yeah when in demo form

Especially with the 10% Inc void dmg PvP talent. And demo form doesn’t run out as fast. Can stay in it for 60+ seconds

[last jasper]

jesus

never seen mine does this

cull yea,with +20 from souls

[spring bough]

Run the void meta talent and drop collapsing star with annihilator its pretty ridiculous

[spring bough]

Check the build I DMd you

[last jasper]

sec, im in shuffle

[rough rock]

@vocal surge whats the next conq items

[last jasper]

pretty much the same I use.

except for the void ray talents u use instead of CS

still impressed by the 100k consume lol

[molten hedge]

Watched Whaazzlysnips on it an hour ago. Disclaimer it’s Whaazz, but it looked good. He was top dam by quite a margin against bm ret frost magus

[outer sky]

Problem is you just dont do anything. Absolutely nothing is dying to your dots even though theyre like 80% of your damage. Like I'll have full bleeds on all 3 people on the other team and nobody dips below 75% hp ever. Doesnt even force CDs. So youre only scary during kingsbane. And even then, only the first couple globals of it. And now assa has no CC so it really feels like the entire game youre just waiting for kingsbane, then you send kidney but cant cross CC yourself so most of the time it doesnt even force anything major

Another thing thars really annoying about assa is that your apex talents dont work if you get kited. Like if you kingsbane and the kill target moves out of melee range your apex talent that helps your burst just doesnt work. That means if you need to use kidney to peel you have to either delay your to for another 30s until you get kidney back or just send it and hope your target doesnt have W bound

They absolutely massacred this spec my god

[molten hedge]

It does seem like a win fast spec thru a lot of pressure while you have vanishes

I can see how it slows down immensely in that lull after your vanishes

[outer sky]

After playing it this season im now convinced Nelf is every bit as mandatory for assa as it was before. Maybe even more so. If you cant get into stealth you cant do anything

[severe helm]

hows that different from before

[outer sky]

I was hoping it wouldnt be like before

Because you cant do as much

But its still something

[severe helm]

yeah tbh assa seems like its job/playstyle is very similar

except it just has undertuned bleeds rn compared to before

it lost aoe garrote silence but thats it right

[molten hedge]

Kingsbane hits as hard I think but it just takes a sec now

We’re not globaling ppl in less than one second

[severe helm]

I think if you compare any spec to sub rn its gona seem shitty but assa kinda seems like it still has a functional place in the meta

its got similar tools to tww

was just behind on numbers a bit

once they address that I think itll function about the same

mechanically it hasnt been nerfed too much from tww

[outer sky]

It also had the silence duration shortened a bit. And ofc lost cheap shot spam. Which hurts a lot because sometimes before I could vanish and multi cheap shot to peel and I could save kidney for the go. But lately with only 1 cheap shot off of vanish ive been having to send kidney to peel a lot more.

[molten hedge]

It could be bc my team is a few hundred cr below you guys, but idk how many times I saved our ass spamming cheaps on everyone. I do miss that terribly

Lol ditto zicore

[outer sky]

They need to make it so gaining stealth of any kind resets the CD on cheap shot. Vanishing or getting a restealth and not being able to cheap shot just shouldn't be a thing

Like in a game earlier I needed to extend healer CC and I didnt have kidney so just out of habit I vanished and spammed cheap shot but it was on CD

Like thats just such bullshit lol

[abstract stratus]

Using gouge and blind for peel also feels bad on the bleed spec

[outer sky]

Blind is too long of a CD to consider it a peel. Especially for assa which has no way of shortening the CD of it. Gouge kinda works but it just breaks to your own damage

This cheap shot change in general just giga fucked this class

That was too integral to the rogue class to gut it

Would be like putting a CD on poly

[abstract stratus]

I like this idea.

[outer sky]

I think things like that need to just be left alone. These classes have been designed around those buttons for 22 years

[jaunty osprey]

Might be a you problem tbh

Bleeds are definitely impactful for me

[outer sky]

Im as geared as i can be right now with a mastery stack

[jaunty osprey]

I definitely understand where you’re coming from about feeling like we do nothing outsides of KB

[outer sky]

Yeah its miserable

[jaunty osprey]

This is a bigger issue in itself

Which happens quite often

[jaunty osprey]

I’ve definitely been soloing healers/people in 3s on stream at higher ratings

as Assa - even without KB up

but obviously KB helps a good amount

Granted I’ve been playing with a hpal, so I make sure that HOJ is used as soon as Kidney DRs ends

So we have a stun every 16s

[outer sky]

This might be the move

[crisp imp]

so, as a sub, we dont want the chest set piece, right?

[outer sky]

Correct

[crisp imp]

what will you buy week2?

[outer sky]

Probably gloves

[potent pivot]

Probably just conq gloves

[jaunty osprey]

BUT if you get Chest tier from LFR/Delve, take it - as soon as you get 4 set, you are able to get additional Catalyst charges drop from PVP

So that means you can buy honour /bloody token gear and upgrade that to tier for free

[outer sky]

This increased weekly conquest is such a W change from blizzard

[jaunty osprey]

Yeah, important to play with teammates that can assist / do stuff

rather than them just afk healing or afk dpsing

[outer sky]

Idk i still think the design is fucked

[lean spire]

So for Sub it looks like Shoulders, Helmet, Legs are the tier pieces people have been buying. Does anyone know what the 4th will be?

[potent pivot]

Gloves

[outer sky]

And to top it off, In shuffle every lobby has at least one monk. So on the off chance anyone is actually dying to my bleeds, dont worry, there's a big pink cloud a few yards away they can take a dip in to cleanse those right off 🤡

[lean spire]

and i have gloves in my vault, so does that mean if i buy the lacquer and use those gloves, ill technically be ahead? or am I misunderstanding something

[outer sky]

Its actually so tilting

[potent pivot]

You won’t really be ahead no

You’ll still be limited by conquest

[lean spire]

sorry i meant like next week, id have 4 set?

wouldnt someone who didnt get a vault tier piece be behind bc of catalyst?

[crisp imp]

u wont get a charge for catalyst next week

afaik

[lean spire]

i thought you get one every two weeks ig is what I'm trying to understand

sorry not trying to be annoying just trying to figure this out

[crisp imp]

ah yes, sorry. im from EU so we are in week 2 tomorrow.
youre already in week 2 i guess?

[lean spire]

Yeah and I have 2 set from the first catalyst and then the extra for the rating. We just had reset today

so i have gloves in my vault and could convert to pvp and would have 3 set

then next week i get helmet with catalyst for 4 set and weapons? Im trying to see if this lines up

[crisp imp]

i think might work? but i believe everyone can go 4set in week 3.
someone correct me if im wrong tho, ppl with more knowledge

no.. i think you might be right. and only ppl with vault luck can go 4set week 3.
BUT.. wait for others to confirm

[lean spire]

im gonna pick the gloves for now anyways since I dont really pve much but yeah I think its the case but ill wait and see before converting it if anyone else has input

thank you

[severe helm]

I dont think that matters too much

vanish is 2 min

a 12s cd on cheap shot isnt relevant

[rough rock]

warmonger gead kinda slaps in the honor slots

Kinda cringe i cant even buy chest piece this week

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

• Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Haste>Crit
• Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
  You want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw to lower the GCD during Adrenaline Rush.
• Subtlety: Vers>Haste to 600-700>Mastery>Crit
  Sub now uses a haste threshold to extend Dance and shorten Secret Technique's CD.
  Sub haste rating chart:
  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923898501529600/1483399511836725378/image.png?ex=69bc6d33&is=69bb1bb3&hm=21db8524f3add252a5f7556c91a39c6d076b5cbf29926a0ff3de6f1dad996660&

[outer sky]

Guys im spearheading a movement to get this obnoxious pink cloud nerfed. Idk what it is with Blizzard and things in this game that are pink but for some reason they always make them the most egregious things in the game

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/whose-idea-was-this-cloud/2279487

I dont know why more people arent bitching about this. Maybe its because specs that use dots as their main shtick just arent popular right now

[rough rock]

Dont be scared, post it on your sub rogue

[outer sky]

Ive been posting on this monk pretty much forever. I joined the forums when I was playing a lot of WW and it just kinda stuck. But people can easily check pvp me. Im hiding nothing.

[rough rock]

[potent pivot]

should try re q'ing

I’ve already heard from a couple of ppl again this season that re q’ing works if their q goes too far over the avg

Has been a bug for so long

[spring bough]

3/4 tier… praying for LFR piece to get cata conversion to start turning PvP gear into tier 🔥

[spring bough]

Took me 25min to get into a game 😂

[rough rock]

right as i posted it i got a que

just like overwatch once you bitch it works LOL

[outer sky]

Last season I sat a 4 hour blitz queue and then missed it because I stepped away to piss

[spring bough]

6 people in my training grounds sitting BS afk

And we are losing…..

I wish there was a ban these MFs button in game

[median ferry]

!talent

ah

[vocal surge]

Meanwhile whenever I join a training ground BG

I get top kills m damage

[potent pivot]

there's some in the pins

[outer sky]

@potent pivot you got an arena core import string?

[potent pivot]

#pvp message

[spring bough]

finally got my 6-0 on devourer got me to rival in shuffle lol

[delicate quest]

any1 knows shy my sarena reloaded doesnt load on shuffle? i only see arena frames by blizz

*why

[potent pivot]

would just recommend trying arena core

sarena been buggy since launch

[delicate quest]

oh okay, thanks!

[potent pivot]

#pvp message

thats an arena core profile i posted last night

[delicate quest]

thanks a lot

[molten hedge]

Ive had no issues with sarena reloaded in quite some time personally

[delicate quest]

well hadnt loaded for me a single time ;c

[potent pivot]

idk after i had my DRs disappear multiple times during matches i got rid of that shit

watched it happen to others on stream too

[delicate quest]

i played like 4 shuffles without. really annoying if u just randomly attack cause you dont have any info

[molten hedge]

dang that sucks

[delicate quest]

blizz frames is trahs.

[molten hedge]

that hasnt happened to me wild

[delicate quest]

well, gotta go sleep

thanks Notrickz for that quick tip

[outer sky]

This is sick ty

[dark stump]

opinion on it ? i used my sesam on a dh but quit 30min after trying devour

i love when i get a druid (ally) that clone on my SB + SD

[potent pivot]

is the CD on CS from getting CC'd on it not getting annoying?

skillcapped even made a post about just that

[spring bough]

it needs another defensive which it gets in 12.0.5

[outer sky]

What

[spring bough]

im playing annihilator no star build

[outer sky]

What defensive is it getting

[potent pivot]

ya it gets a heal

[spring bough]

soul immo gonna have 2 charges 30 second cooldown and heal 24%

[outer sky]

it already has 95% uptime on blur

[potent pivot]

2 charges 30% heal or something

[spring bough]

its a node

2 charges 30 sec cd 24% heal or 1 charge 1min cd 30% heal

[outer sky]

who would ever take the 2nd one lol

[potent pivot]

1 minute one also blinds your target for 12 seconds

[spring bough]

no star and i just spam reap / consume and sit in demon form for like 60+ seconds

[outer sky]

so guess devo wont be a kill target in 12.0.5

[potent pivot]

so you just never star? lool

[spring bough]

ive had a lobby where i just sat MW and killed it each round i was against it lol

[spring bough]

no star ever with this build... 100 soul pvp talent tho so i do 10% more void dmg in demon form

fury literally doesnt run out and u just sit in demon

[outer sky]

maybe with dampening and MS it wont be so bad

[spring bough]

when devour crits for 100k

and is instant cast its whips people

[outer sky]

Lmao

[marble oasis]

says the ret paladin

[spring bough]

Bes if u in here im so sorry for what i just did to ur sub rogue LOL

[jaunty osprey]

LOL

[jaunty osprey]

That was @potent pivot

[potent pivot]

???

[hybrid sapphire]

yall i straight up do NOT pve does any of this shit matter

[potent pivot]

Well obviously you pve or u wouldn’t have a vault sir

The only thing that would matter for pvp is a piece of tier

[potent pivot]

Bro lontar bought normal and heroic boosts

To try and get legs tier on his rsham

He paid like 3m gold

I don’t understand rushing tier sets

[hybrid sapphire]

prey doesnt count

[potent pivot]

Wut

[spring bough]

devourer + sub rogue in solo shuffle is the most insane combo

one smoke bomb and its over

[potent pivot]

So prey DOES give open world vault?

I was wondering about that

[hybrid sapphire]

yeah thats the only pve i do

[potent pivot]

icic

What’s the point in doing prey

[hybrid sapphire]

funsies

[potent pivot]

Ah

It doesn’t look very fun to me ngl

Half the time I see Nahj or someone doing prey, it bugs out

[hybrid sapphire]

nightmare is fun otherwise its not super challenging

mine never has idk what hes doing

[potent pivot]

I guess I rly need to set up a house

Apparently u can use the housing teleport and follow dungeons to tele to any zone

[rough rock]

you think we skip 4 set as outlaw?

looks pointless

[outer sky]

It is

[spring bough]

isnt it a blade rush buff? probably for verse

[outer sky]

And so is its 4 set

[rough rock]

yeah this would be dookie after the 33%

[spring bough]

love seeing a MW lose out on purpose at 1800 mmr

[potent pivot]

Lowering the cd of a mobility ability sounds nice idk

[spring bough]

buddy just took lik a 70 rating loss lmao

[rough rock]

by what 4 seconds lmao

[outer sky]

Im in a Blitz right now and both teams have 2 DKs so I guess nobody is getting a cap

[potent pivot]

I def think outlaw is the most mobile spec still

[rough rock]

in blitz?

i feel like evoker is 10x faster

[potent pivot]

in anything

[dark stump]

am i the only one thinking that each time they choose the color of the elite tier set at random ?

[potent pivot]

i meant rogue spec

bruh

[potent pivot]

yep

this season's set is ass dookie

[rough rock]

https://tenor.com/view/dcg-dragonclawgames-spin-spinning-wheel-gif-21987668

[potent pivot]

regardless of color tbh

[dark stump]

this one is good (hunter) on orc or troll but i play void elf sadly

[potent pivot]

the dk/lock sets are good

the dh/hunter sets are 'aight'

[dark stump]

the normal set is rlly good

[spring bough]

rogue set so ass

[potent pivot]

idk i don't like any of the rogue set

[dark stump]

hmm

[potent pivot]

it looks like leveling gear

[dark stump]

feel like i'm playing a mage

[rough rock]

monk set is hot

[spring bough]

DH set decent

[potent pivot]

i mean dk is just a melee warlock

[dark stump]

not anymore for unholy

[dark stump]

could've made the color for one of the spec instead of red but it's the best one out of all with lock

[jaunty osprey]

ladder rankings during week 1 so important for ego

[dark stump]

rip priest , i think it's the worst of all

[potent pivot]

i think its ok but i just hate the helmets with the things hanging off the back

[dark stump]

to be the only one profiting of the tier set and osing everyone

[potent pivot]

i guess but like... on his rsham? lol

isn't it the worst healer atm

or one of the worst

[dark stump]

rdruid too maybe ?

i only see mistweaver and priest recently

[outer sky]

CTF maps as assa are so aids

[rough rock]

this guy forgot SecTec is a button he has to press

[hybrid sapphire]

is there a reason cooldowns arent showing on spell icons anymore?>

[potent pivot]

are u using an actionbar addon

https://www.wowhead.com/news/action-bar-addons-affected-by-last-minute-addon-changes-380950

[rough rock]

oh wtf everybody is dropping acrobatic strikes now

[hybrid sapphire]

yeah bartender

[potent pivot]

idts?

[rough rock]

its just for blitz

they swap it for KS

[potent pivot]

ye u gotta disable that for now

oh

[rough rock]

i mean i guess while holding a cap

it would be fine

[hybrid sapphire]

LMOA helllll no

[potent pivot]

..?

[hybrid sapphire]

kms

[potent pivot]

yea

just disable it until they update lol

[rough rock]

then again the #1 outlaw in blitz is running this.....

[potent pivot]

yea i've seen a few ppl running that

prolly just forgot to even look at it

[rough rock]

yeah kinda funny to see every outlaw running something different

[outer sky]

God assa is SO bad

I cant even spin bases

[spring bough]

yeah ellese ui action bars dont show highlights right now RIP lol

[outer sky]

if theres more than 1 guy

i just die

no CC

1 cheap shot gg

This is so depressing

[spring bough]

wait is deetails starting to show who has been hit?

i see some data but not everything it looks like

has a targets section underneath dmg detail

[hybrid sapphire]

i think they made prey extra annoying after the patch wtf

[dark stump]

tried leveling with it feel more squishy then havoc

[spring bough]

ngl u get caught with no blur and trinket u dead dead in a global lol

[rough rock]

just do havoc

i tried leveling with devour and wanted to blow my brains out lmao

[spring bough]

its taken a lot of getting used to lolol

[rough rock]

this disc was insane lmao

[stoic spruce]

I wish we could see a real breakdown

[dark stump]

will be a funny bg

[rough rock]

hmm should i wait one more week for chest piece (higher stats) or just grab shoulders

shoulders on left chest on right

[outer sky]

You trying to gain some kind of unfair advantage?

[stoic spruce]

No!

[dark stump]

what was i expecting ?

i miss shadow duel

[rough rock]

@vocal surge @gusty hedge help

[outer sky]

Funny thing too is that monk on your team that actually did damage could have been a healer lmfao

[dark stump]

it was ww

i hate destroying the ass of a hunt or someone the hop cocoon

funny thing it could've been possible

[gusty hedge]

Up to you 😛 but if we are going up 800 conquest each week instead of 600 u can grab shoulders now and get chest next week , 25 left over from first week 800 this week -700 shoulders (100) week 2 800 (900) 875 for chest

[molten hedge]

It’s basically a vial it’s not that crazy

[rough rock]

i did not know that about raising to 800 thank you lol

Just to be sure, no plans on running 4 set right?

Idk if id be willing to lose all that verse for hardly any cd reduction

[jaunty osprey]

QUEUIN SOME ASSA AFF

WITH THE BUFFS

let's gooo

[stoic spruce]

Assa af good again?

Aw man

[molten hedge]

I just tried aff. Was not impressed

But only 2 shuffs

I heard some of the buffs may not have gone thru but not sure

[vocal surge]

?

Up to you

Imma go for crafted pieces the next 2 weeks

[abstract stratus]

fyi pyrium weapon chain item from cata is functional on this seasons conq weapons and works to cut disarms in half

[vocal surge]

You mean any weapon chain that reduces Disarm duration works

[gusty hedge]

i think they hotfixed it ! i had some that wouldnt work past 80 but the one i had on my weap was still functional, i havent checked today, this was before reset

[crisp imp]

so, i hover around 1600+- in solo shuffle and 2s.
how to git gud???

[jaunty osprey]

yeah they hotfixed it

but if it was alread applied

it works

[potent pivot]

Keep playing and practicing

Watch some r1s play like Nahj/kalv

[crisp imp]

hm. i probably should start using addons

[stoic spruce]

I'm gonna place money on something

And say

It's more than likely a defensive gap

99% of the time, people who are hardstuck at that level, they're using defensives wrong.