pvp

[dark kernel]

That's actually kind of ass for stopping gos

[spring bough]

Maybe they made that intentional cause they hate rogues

Bout to just open games out of stealth on outlaw 🤷‍♂️

[dark kernel]

Actually might as well

[jaunty osprey]

Still really good for blind

Cause 90% of the time they trinket it

[gleaming sentinel]

Just run in mounted you’re a warrior now

[dark kernel]

Yeah people may call me stupid but I'm still running short blind

[jaunty osprey]

Stupid

[dark kernel]

I think it's still really good

I don't think we need gouge anymore

[jaunty osprey]

You lose gouge

Gouge is insane

Especially when you don’t have unlimited stuns anymore

[dark kernel]

It's honestly probably just me. Gouge is probably one of my most used abilities and I even use it off cooldown all the time

But the fact that we can still kidney short blind sap every second dance is so strong

[jaunty osprey]

good to use when people trinket your stun + bomb combo too

Cause gouge doesnt insta break

[dark kernel]

I'll toy with it some more.

I'm going to be playing mostly rmp though

[gleaming sentinel]

So many times I’ve killed someoen gouging them low and it just doesn’t break to my bte lol

[jaunty osprey]

Not wrong in theory, but to waste a fear DR

just for that

When the mage can just sheep off of kidney

[potent pivot]

i added the thingy to !stats too btw

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

• Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Haste>Crit
• Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
  You want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw to lower the GCD during Adrenaline Rush.
• Subtlety: Vers>Haste to 600-700>Mastery>Crit
  Sub now uses a haste threshold to extend Dance and shorten Secret Technique's CD.
  Sub haste rating chart:
  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923898501529600/1483399511836725378/image.png?ex=69bc6d33&is=69bb1bb3&hm=21db8524f3add252a5f7556c91a39c6d076b5cbf29926a0ff3de6f1dad996660&

[jaunty osprey]

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

• Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Haste>Crit
• Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
  You want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw to lower the GCD during Adrenaline Rush.
• Subtlety: Vers>Haste to 600-700>Mastery>Crit
  Sub now uses a haste threshold to extend Dance and shorten Secret Technique's CD.
  Sub haste rating chart:
  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923898501529600/1483399511836725378/image.png?ex=69bc6d33&is=69bb1bb3&hm=21db8524f3add252a5f7556c91a39c6d076b5cbf29926a0ff3de6f1dad996660&

[potent pivot]

just for the sake of it

[jaunty osprey]

Bot is spamming

!ban @lethal roost

[dark kernel]

You make good points. But I guess if I just save gouge for off target, similarly I could just blind me off Target

Anyway I trust your intuition. I don't have enough experience to make the highest level decision here

[jaunty osprey]

Better to gouge the off target cause it’ll last longer

Kidney -> sheep enemy healer

ur priest could fear gouge target

3v1 vs kill target

[potent pivot]

so 50 speed is roughly 4.35% @jaunty osprey

[dark kernel]

Yeah, speaking of the only thing I need is some kind of nameplate bar. But I just want something that cleans it up and makes it look different, and possibly stack. The new blizzard bars when they overlap are such a pain in the ass

[jaunty osprey]

You can full blind off of the sheep too if you hold for no trinket

[potent pivot]

if u haven't done speed chants yet

[jaunty osprey]

I’ve enchanted everythin

I AINT BROKE

[potent pivot]

ok mail me some gold then og

[dark kernel]

Boy I am I just finished unlocking mounted mining and herbalism

[jaunty osprey]

I really want to try Leech enchants with Assa

And leeching poison

[jaunty osprey]

Market has crashed so hard, but still easily 30-50k an hour

https://x.com/leekatv/status/2034488990162973157/photo/1

Chris (@leekatv)

3v3 NA Top 1000 after the first 2 days of PvP!

https://t.co/sOQm64Xtb5

X · Mar 19, 2026, 4:35 AM

Any Assa rogues in chat?

[little leaf]

Is there any double dps viable for outlaw?

[jaunty osprey]

Oh wait, it’s only me for 3s and I didn’t log on yday

[little leaf]

for 2v2

[waxen meteor]

Oh no

Sub rank too high

Gotta play soon

[jaunty osprey]

Maybe Fire mage?

[waxen meteor]

Nerf income like always

[jaunty osprey]

Frost too probably, and POSSIBLY destro lock

[dark kernel]

That's more than enough for me man

[jaunty osprey]

Unholy DK

[dark kernel]

I'm pushing as many games in the first two weeks before we get the bat as possible

[waxen meteor]

Haven’t geared up yet damn

[jaunty osprey]

What enchants are you missing?

[dark kernel]

All of them

[jaunty osprey]

😂 what do you have at conq ilvl

[dark kernel]

LOL I only had time to play one shuffle so far I'm at least full honor geared though

[waxen meteor]

Oh I am full honor though 🙂

[dark kernel]

Nothing yet man, my kid has had an ear infection and has been screaming her head off for the last 2 days

[jaunty osprey]

Ok when you get some Conquest ilvl pieces, lmk - I’ll get you those enchants

[dark kernel]

I legitimately got so cock blocked right at the start of season

[waxen meteor]

Will get some war mode and conquest pc first

[jaunty osprey]

Ahh hope the kiddo is ok

[potent pivot]

[dark kernel]

Can you even trade that stuff cross faction anymore or server? Because I'm on Emerald dream

[jaunty osprey]

Yes

[dark kernel]

Yeah dude she's good Saint Miss Rachel got us through

[jaunty osprey]

Ahh, Miss Rachel

[potent pivot]

[jaunty osprey]

My niece used to watch her videos every day

I need Miss Rachel to make a WoW pvp video

[dark kernel]

Dude I only let my kid watch that show 45 minutes on weekdays

[jaunty osprey]

So I can start training the next generation

[gleaming sentinel]

Congrats sub rogues you’re on brain dead ret tier

[dark kernel]

But obviously because she was sick my wife let her just go to town

And holy crap dude. At least I know that my kid can get bored of her after about 3 hours

[potent pivot]

@jaunty osprey i think u got on the wrong chest enchant

or did u go for the 15 speed with less agi on purpose

[jaunty osprey]

For honour I had speed on purpose

Cause guildy made then

them*

what do u think about my assa talents tho

[potent pivot]

idk man i think u gotta relocate some brain cells

[potent pivot]

did u see the sammers thing

#pvp message

[deep dove]

does anyone know why I can not see my char on leaderboard for soloshuffle or 2v2?

[potent pivot]

might not have updated yet

[deep dove]

have not seen it since start

im 1556 with 71 games

[jaunty osprey]

You need to auto refresh urself

but the leaderboard only shows people above 1800

For 3rd party sites

[jaunty osprey]

Ya, kinda whack tbh lol

[potent pivot]

gladius still works if installed before

but now its not on curse

unless he gets it all resolved

i think i'm going to switch to arena core

[gritty hemlock]

Where do you get conq Ilvl pieces ?

[jaunty osprey]

Hopefully he uploads on wago

[potent pivot]

you buy or craft them

[gritty hemlock]

And these are better than honor or gear for PvP? Sorry I’m new trying to grasp ALOT of content

[jaunty osprey]

But at the same time, wonder if Bodify’s sArena is any good

[potent pivot]

oh true i didn't even think of that

[dark kernel]

Arena Core is good

Bodify is also good

[jaunty osprey]

Ya, you have to get Reflex on wago

[potent pivot]

i've watched it bug 3 times on whaazz's stream in the past hour

[hybrid vessel]

no point getting bloody tokens now?

[potent pivot]

bodify's is ass

[hybrid vessel]

except maybe tmog?

[dark kernel]

Not reallt.

[hybrid vessel]

maybe faster than honor if youve got the 500 token reward quests up actually

but ye

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/clint-eastwood-cowboy-im-ready-gif-14491236

[crisp imp]

theres no difference where i put gems right? like, i have the crafted belt and could put enduring heliotrope on it right

[hybrid vessel]

do we have to use 2 daggers btw as sub?

[dark kernel]

The amount of people crying because they cannot CC rogues every single Shadow dance for every single second is insane

I guess the only class who shouldn't have gotten CC changes was every class hitting us

[potent pivot]

yes

anyone not using 2 daggers is trolling extremely hard

[gusty hedge]

gotta admit 20 sec shadowdance with supercharger is over the top

[dark kernel]

They finally let sub have actual consistent damage like EVERY OTHER CLASS

and now it's a problem

I'd shove my foot in some real life ass tbah

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/like-to-see-you-try-dwayne-johnson-the-rock-jumanji-jumanji-movie-gif-11210095

[dark kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/ig-live-whackwurld-6uava-whackwurid-ig-live-water-gif-21841939

You won't win this

I fight naked

[gusty hedge]

id have to walk away

[potent pivot]

ya

[hybrid vessel]

do we swap out the reshii wraps asap?

[potent pivot]

sure?

[red obsidian]

so we just buy helmet and shoulders and insta cata them wehn possible?

does it keep pvp scaling?

[potent pivot]

pins

[gusty hedge]

not if ur outlaw

[jaunty osprey]

NAME 3 OUTLAW PLAYERS

Besides Servo, Servogod, and Servogodx

[dark kernel]

Val, dazed, tokyghoul

Or tokyodrifter

He's gone tho

And then those here

[stoic spruce]

Mrwafflerofls

[potent pivot]

don't forget Poopoo

he's the brains behind the whole operation

[stoic spruce]

wowwwwww

its poop actually

poopoo is my father

[potent pivot]

lmfao insta 1 tick summoned

[stoic spruce]

you best put respect on the name

[grave basin]

Suprised he wasnt summoned when uh dk was mentioned

[jaunty osprey]

Val and Dazed both playing Sub on retail atm

[grave basin]

Poopoo vancleef and pk count as 3

[jaunty osprey]

poopoo my goat

[grave basin]

Vancleef betrayed the outlaw bros though

[stoic spruce]

was eating dinner

I saw

empanandas

[dark kernel]

Yeah but historically speaking.

[grave basin]

Is this the worst dps in shuffle atm

[dark kernel]

Who is Ellaszun

I see them a lot

Just no reason to play outlaw tbh

[stoic spruce]

I love the nega win rate

[grave basin]

Even assa has 12 people above 1600

[dark kernel]

I think it's fun, but not more fun than sub

[stoic spruce]

thats real outlaw energy

[grave basin]

Top 10 outlaw and 2 has neg win rate after mmr reset

[stoic spruce]

dude

Id wear that win rate like a badge of honor lmaoo

thats so funny

[spring bough]

Brb bout to go lose my way to elite as outlaw

[grave basin]

632 sub rogues on shuff ladder

Guess how many outlaws

[stoic spruce]

67

[spring bough]

5

[grave basin]

Inbetween

[gleaming sentinel]

I’m Q’ing today bro I’m in there

[dark kernel]

I'll queue outlaw just to fuck the metrics

[stoic spruce]

im not queuing so add 1

[dark kernel]

I'm not even going to look up gear full sub gear

[stoic spruce]

yet*

see you lads on the leaderboards!

not Slit

hes got that sub brain victim mentality already

[spring bough]

Guys I just made the best latte of my life at home 🔥

[stoic spruce]

nuh uh

[grave basin]

Erm

[spring bough]

👀

[grave basin]

@potent pivot

[stoic spruce]

@potent pivot

SIC EM

RAHH

[dark kernel]

I'm going full fotm this season.

I'll play whatever. If I have to reroll class I will this time

[stoic spruce]

Its working, I can tell already

[spring bough]

What we talking bout I got distracted

[stoic spruce]

idr

post latte

[jaunty osprey]

Was about to ping my goat @wooden spire
Gonna ping him anyway for fun

[stoic spruce]

@candid condor is my goat

[jaunty osprey]

Look at assa

[potent pivot]

Was already done

[jaunty osprey]

Hope you get banned

[stoic spruce]

you8 too slow

[stoic spruce]

yo mama

[candid condor]

YESSIR I BANNED HIM, IT WAS ALL ME, NOONE BUT ME

[jaunty osprey]

for pinging Koffing

[candid condor]

(I was too late)

[jaunty osprey]

U missed poopoo

get em

[stoic spruce]

Koffing gets credit idc

I go to bed now bye

[potent pivot]

Ronkles got em

[grave basin]

19 whole ass outlaws

632 sub rogs

[stoic spruce]

okay but how many half assed outlaws

[jaunty osprey]

SHOW ASSA

[stoic spruce]

assa

assa

assa

show it

[grave basin]

Assa 52

[stoic spruce]

wow thats a lot

[potent pivot]

I go to bed now bye

[balmy shuttle]

just got bloody tokens 2-set for some world pvp, because why not. thought +6% vers would be nice. but it ended up being multiplicative and resulting in roughly +1% vers xD

[stoic spruce]

i am easily distracted

[spring bough]

Is sin really sin without AoE silence 😭

[stoic spruce]

gonna put a pin right here

gonna turn off my uh dk and dreadblades transmitters off so I wont know when someone mentions them

[grave basin]

How about you put it on the shuffle board

[grave basin]

Are you rollinbones

[spring bough]

damn @stoic spruce you gonna let him say stuff like that

[stoic spruce]

Yeah

You think I care? My pfp is me irl

[spring bough]

bout to see how havoc is doing today in shuffles

[glass hazel]

how is assa?

anyone playing it in shuffle? ;x

[spring bough]

yk whats cool? back to back games where 1 healer leaves after round 2

and second que is healer not pressing buttons

[grave basin]

Ivanrah is

[fiery turret]

Lol

[rough rock]

On my 5th discord acct, I promise you that message is not the reason you got that lmao

[stoic spruce]

I got it removed

I'll never know

That was unironically the worst thing I said yesterday

[rough rock]

My last one from last week lmao

[spring bough]

lmao what did u do

[rough rock]

You can get limited just from at least 3 people reporting a dumb message, usually if you just ask discord about it they’ll remove it. Just the ai auto mod crap

[covert bolt]

Can anyone online tell me that the story variant for the shadow guard vault delve is today?

[spring bough]

actually insane.... such a free society becoming such a policed society lmaoo

[gleaming sentinel]

Sub getting trashed lol

[jaunty osprey]

Damage gapping everyone in shuffle

with my build

[grave basin]

Absolutely

Blizz hates it when sub is good in shuff

[gleaming sentinel]

Sub being so easy just gonna bring fotm rerollers skewing the numbers too

[grave basin]

Dont think they would care as much if it was only a 3s thing

[spring bough]

lookin like DH dmg right now lol

[analog tapir]

this page seems good

[glass hazel]

not bad 🙂 thanks, might try your build as well

[spring bough]

[glass hazel]

haha

is it coins?

how he died so fast lol

[analog tapir]

@jaunty osprey what talents are u using ?

[glass hazel]

this one i guess https://murlok.io/character/us/zuljin/ivanrah/pvp

[spring bough]

even rogues on your own faction your worst enemy....

doing prey traps while waiting for que. hit a mob next to it and this rogue comes in takes trap stealths away LMAO

[calm vortex]

its good to buy weapon with bloody tokens?

[covert bolt]

No? It’s lower ilvl than honor weapon

[jaunty osprey]

I logged out using a troll build

Don’t look at that

[glass hazel]

why you did that lol

people will just mindlessly copy it haha

[jaunty osprey]

So people don’t play Assa and we continue to get buffs

5head

Jk, I always do it at the start of season cause idk what is best yet

So don’t want people to follow yet

[glass hazel]

okay 🙂

[spring bough]

how many fears have healers let yall sit thru this season

feels like 10x more than last

[calm vortex]

bloody token its 276 like honor weapon

how

[spring bough]

locks CC is absolutely broken

i wish they had fear taken away

or on cooldown like cheap is

[gleaming sentinel]

Demo feels unkillable

[spring bough]

i just went against demo and destro

and it was nothing but sitting in 90% CC

[grave basin]

Howl and coil not being on choice node

Meanwhile the list of what sv lost is like all of warriors kit put together

Idk blizz just dog at balancing this tier idk what happened

The fact that they had months of beta and pve balancing has top dps being 50% better than bottom dps is embarassing

[molten hedge]

Yeah bro played ret demo 3s ln shit is so tanky

Even against TSG and ret warr

[molten hedge]

Idt they balance around honor gear with a couple crafted pieces. Gotta wait and see what it looks like down the road

[grave basin]

They had data points from beta with maxed gear + the obvious pvp outliers were outliers on beta too

[jaunty osprey]

1 charge, 12 sec cd, another charge if they port

[spring bough]

and put the other 2 fears they got on a choice node lol

[pale lotus]

What pieces are outlaw rogues going for 1st?

[gusty hedge]

Legs/Gloves

haste/vers haste/crit

if heraldries some people are going boots/belt id recommend going wrist/cloak with embels plus alacrity trink

[rapid oak]

are we running vers mastery for assa ?

or haste

[gusty hedge]

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

• Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Haste>Crit
• Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
  You want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw to lower the GCD during Adrenaline Rush.
• Subtlety: Vers>Haste to 600-700>Mastery>Crit
  Sub now uses a haste threshold to extend Dance and shorten Secret Technique's CD.
  Sub haste rating chart:
  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923898501529600/1483399511836725378/image.png?ex=69bc6d33&is=69bb1bb3&hm=21db8524f3add252a5f7556c91a39c6d076b5cbf29926a0ff3de6f1dad996660&

[rapid oak]

ty bro

[velvet prism]

Guy living under a rock here- arena doesn’t give vault? So we have to pve to collect tier possibilities from vault?

[spring bough]

not since dragonflight they turned it into delve/world activities

[lime oar]

no. you purchase conquest gear and then turn it into tier at the catalyst

[dark kernel]

Pretty much

[spring bough]

i hate the fact

people cant handle sub rogues in solo shuffle

tell my dps everytime to lock them up and they just get dropped lmao

[severe helm]

wdym lock them up

can only expect so much, sub is harder to beat than it is to play

[spring bough]

do anything CC stay on em

and people just getting popped in smoke left n right

healers not even trinketing first CC sometimes and sub kills by the time CC done lol

[severe helm]

theres no spec in the game that has enough cc to stop subs dances other than another sub rogue lol

and if youre a healer and you trinket anything other than a blind against a sub youre probably throwing the game

and youll just lose on blind

[spring bough]

Bout to go smash games with my rogue as sub before they nerf it

[gusty hedge]

Demo lock prolly the only one with cc's that dont dr itself + pet ccs

[severe helm]

even then

demos pet stun is not that short of a cd

[gusty hedge]

Sub is King Rn

[untold prawn]

are there still must have addons for pvp ? havent pvpd in aages

i reckon bg shuffle is abit ''easier'' to get 1600 rating for the catalyst ?

[gusty hedge]

MiniCC MidnightDr

[grave basin]

ez claps on unholy

[gusty hedge]

how does the victory toy look 👀
gotta power through these delves im slackin

[spring bough]

collegiate delve in silvermoon is pretty quick

[gusty hedge]

think i can pull this off in honor gear? i've got no pve gear

[spring bough]

lower level ones yeah idk when you get to like 10s lol

[grave basin]

probably not

took 6 attempts at 245 ilvl

youll get flattened by his autos

hes hitting for 100k a swing

[obtuse venture]

Hello!, Can anybody explain me why are people building Haste on Subrogues?

[grave basin]

• the last phase is a dps check so you wont have enoug dps + honor gear has really bad stats

[grave basin]

i didnt get the quest to beat him for the toy before attempting

ill get it later cba lol it will be completely free at 270 ilvl

oh the quest only requires normal mode?

[grave basin]

it increases the time in shadowdance

and uptime on dance is quite important now since shadowstrike hits hard

[jaunty osprey]

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

• Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Haste>Crit
• Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
  You want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw to lower the GCD during Adrenaline Rush.
• Subtlety: Vers>Haste to 600-700>Mastery>Crit
  Sub now uses a haste threshold to extend Dance and shorten Secret Technique's CD.
  Sub haste rating chart:
  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923898501529600/1483399511836725378/image.png?ex=69bc6d33&is=69bb1bb3&hm=21db8524f3add252a5f7556c91a39c6d076b5cbf29926a0ff3de6f1dad996660&

[jaunty osprey]

Sub now uses a haste threshold to extend Dance and shorten Secret Technique's CD.

[spring bough]

Trying to light up solo shuffle on the rogue as sub but no ques are popping 😭

[grave basin]

as sub

??

[spring bough]

Why would I play outlaw rn 😂

[grave basin]

[spring bough]

this healers name in my game is the planet Uranus LOL

[hybrid vessel]

only need r1 mats for pvp crafts right?

except embellishment/stat?

[grave basin]

need only r1

doesnt matter what it is

[hybrid vessel]

ah

[spring bough]

lashe does so much dmg lol

[rancid kayak]

you go for double evis when apex procc or still shadowstrike/evis

?

[spring bough]

idk im just spamming butttons

[spring bough]

looks like i was doing mad double evis cause thats by far my highest dmg

acttually with both shadowstrikes together that isnt far behind evis lol

[vocal surge]

Murlok.io's AI art kinda cringe xD

[clever prawn]

what is the order we buy conq gear to min max for pvp?

sub rogue

[jaunty osprey]

helm shoulder

week 1

[spring bough]

what the silvermoon art? lol

[vocal surge]

Seen the rogue page?

[spring bough]

okay thats bad looks like anime

look at warrior too LOL

[vocal surge]

Not even anime look

its the mistakes the AI made

its bad xD

[queen grail]

dude im climbin so fast omg

yay

i just hit a 6 winner hehe

[spring bough]

first lobby as sub for me and resto druid didnt press 1 heal... RIP lol

[snow harness]

hows pvp feeling at sub atm

on sub

[vocal surge]

just had 1 sub rogue die

after he hard los'd his healer across the map on white tiger peak

I sapped that healer's flying dragon kick

smoke bomb before cocoon went out

and rogue dropped

[calm vortex]

i cant find the built in arena frame

and i should buy now 4 set of conquest when i can?

[potent pivot]

..?

[calm vortex]

yea right? its the same ilvl

i dont get it

i just got the weapon

@potent pivot i buy 4 piece of conq, without chest right? or buy all but chest not upgrade to set?

and can u tell me how i turn on the built in gladius in arena?

[surreal plank]

Can someone explain why some rogues are using sunfire silk lining on subt and how that works?

[potent pivot]

The what

[surreal plank]

the embellishment

[potent pivot]

You can’t really get 4set this week I don’t think, there’s a gearing guide linked in the pins

[potent pivot]

Get an addon the base blizzard one is bad

[jaunty osprey]

if you get LFR/normal/heroic tier

you can convert honour pieces or bloody token pieces to tier

you get unlimited catalyst charges that drop when u do mythic dungeons, any raids, any rated pvp

once u get 4set

[potent pivot]

Not sure which one you mean

[jaunty osprey]

dont think anyone is using this

[spring bough]

cata charge achievement is OP

[queen grail]

ok i hit 1600!!

it was a lil easier than i thought

i feel like pikaboo

[thick dagger]

Is Devoruing banding really worse than Arcanoweave ? Every streamer is rocking Devoruing atm even supa on his boomie lol

[potent pivot]

The periodic damage/healing one? Idk a single person using that

[surreal plank]

looks like kalvish is running it lol

[potent pivot]

The dmg proc from it is terrible from what I’ve seen, and it procs you vers at lower uptime than arcanoweave’s main stat

[surreal plank]

the only thing i can think that would proc sunfire is crimson vial lol

[potent pivot]

Sunfire is also just a really small stacking buff it looks garb

Maybe he just wanted to test it idk

[rough rock]

Feel like everything I’ve heard about this guy the last 2 weeks is some borderline insane shit or complete theory crafting with zero execution 😭

[potent pivot]

idk yesterday he tried devouring and said he was gonna go arcanoweave

[rough rock]

I’m joking I know he’s amazing at the game lmao

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[potent pivot]

Hi

[spring bough]

time for u to try dev DH

[rough rock]

https://tenor.com/view/kylo-ren-traitor-star-wars-gif-16767158544211392703

[spring bough]

i got my 1 outlaw round in earlier

3-3 i call that an accomplishment

[calm vortex]

i cant find a working addon, some1 can tell me how to turn on the built in gladius?

[rough rock]

Lmaooo how did that feel

[spring bough]

uhhh well the healer went 0-6 so not fun

[rough rock]

I know murlok is iffy but there’s 2 of the top 10 including the rank 1 that’s not even running last point of gravedigger

Seems kinda troll to not run it

[potent pivot]

arena core

[spring bough]

troll asf

[calm vortex]

ty

[potent pivot]

when you proc a combo point refund you spend them yes always

[hybrid vessel]

we got any "default" pvp talents?

[dark moon]

running precog?

[outer sky]

Lol I just got reported because I /afk'd out of a lobby before the gates even opened because I didn't want to spend 6 games fighting double ret, hpal, destro, disc

Pretty sure thats not reportable

i didn't derank

Games didnt even start

I just didnt want to play into triple pink class

so I left

like what's this guy's problem

[wicked tide]

ngl IMO thats a real coward thing to do

but to each their own

[outer sky]

./shrug

[wicked tide]

just an opinion

[outer sky]

Im paying my sub

[wicked tide]

i agree bro you do you

[outer sky]

I'll play the games I want to play

I'm not playing into triple pally

[wicked tide]

but it shows charachter as a man just my opinion like i said, its a beta move

also you just wasted 5 other peoples time who were waiting in que

[spring bough]

just realized i dont have one of those gems whoops lol

[wicked tide]

so its also really selfish

which is fine, just giving u outside perspective

[outer sky]

mostly 3. The healers dont have long queue times

But like why would I do that to myself

3 pallys and destro

its just a waste of my time

[wicked tide]

Hey man some people quit before they even try

your one of those people and thats okay if your okay with it

[outer sky]

You are taking this video game way too seriously man

[wicked tide]

bruh u asked for an opinion im sorry you dont like my opinion

but its a real beta boy move to pull what you pulled

[outer sky]

When did I ask for that

[surreal plank]

He's also right though

[outer sky]

reply to the message

[wicked tide]

olk you posted and then justified whhat u did

im giving you outside perspective which you dont like

because you may be reealizing that what you did was kinda wrong and a little bit of a girl move

[outer sky]

If you want to waste your time queueing into that garbage then go ahead. Unless someone else is paying my sub then I wont

[wicked tide]

sure brother you do what makes you happy its your money

im just giving you a little perspective here

[jaunty osprey]

You'll be fine dw

[outer sky]

I know

[outer sky]

I also kinda did it as a pseudo boycott. Like the game is so bad that a day 3 lobby at like 1800mmr has 3 pallys. Fix that shit or I ain't playing

[wicked tide]

Like i said man you justify it however you want, from outsiders looking in, you just look like a scared beta boy

i get that lobby sucks but just to quit like that before u even played into it, IDK just wouldn't sit well with myself

[outer sky]

risk/reward ratio

This is kinda cringe ngl

We're playing World of Warcraft not storming the beaches of Normandy

[wicked tide]

mentality is mentality in anything you do man

[gilded gulch]

i remember when bubble had a cooldown

[wicked tide]

idk what to tell you, try to argue it however you want and justify it however you want, your a quitter when times get tough

[gilded gulch]

because it sure as shit doesnt feel that way

[outer sky]

Can you link your checkpvp so I can see what your mentality has gotten you?

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/looney-gif-8561417070170405595

[wicked tide]

sure man

i'll show you where im currently at

[outer sky]

just show me your achievements

thats it

[wicked tide]

and fortunately for me i've had really good lobbys

[outer sky]

I want to see this mentality

and where its gotten you

thats all

[wicked tide]

none i had to unscrew my dick from my body and run from

annd then announce to everyone that im a beta

[outer sky]

So nothing?

[surreal plank]

man i love this game

[outer sky]

This is not a checkpvp link

[dark moon]

yo, guys, chill

its just a game, shouldnt care if anyone leaves or not

[wicked tide]

he just mad someone called him out on being a beta boy

[outer sky]

Excatly. Like imagine getting this worked up over it lol

[surreal plank]

you guys should duel

[wicked tide]

bbrother your the one demanding achievements

gaurenteed he plays orc

[dark moon]

we do realize thats made up, right?

[outer sky]

I just want to see where the alpha male is

thats all

should be stacked

let me see

would be great inspiration

to waste my time later lmfao

[wicked tide]

im just happy i got in your head

and now your questioning yourself

[surreal plank]

hey man we dont need any orc slander around here

[woven copper]

Sorry, I just can't resist bragging about my first battle in SS

[wicked tide]

nice man, way to not leave the lobby cuz you were scared of what u were fighting against

[gilded gulch]

*Bragging about you can't press printscreen.

[outer sky]

You dont even know what he was fighting lol

[woven copper]

Unfortunately, I don’t have Discord on my PC

[wicked tide]

dont matter he pressed Q and played it out!

[outer sky]

it definitely matters.

[gilded gulch]

Takes like 2 seconds

[wicked tide]

maybe for someone like u who wants to cherry pick lobbies

[outer sky]

can you show me what not doing that got you achievement wise?

[surreal plank]

the rogues are aggressive today

[wicked tide]

it was just a dick move to leave i woulda been pissed if i waited 25 min for a que then some beta leaves cuz hes scared of the lobby

and now im backin que after i been sitting waiting to play

[outer sky]

then you can be pissed

[woven copper]

For certain reasons, I can’t install Discord on my computer😁

[outer sky]

log out and play something else

[wicked tide]

im not pissed im just trying to give u perspective

[outer sky]

youre DEFINITELY pissed lol

[gilded gulch]

[wicked tide]

lol man you got a really misconstrued view of the world

[proper vortex]

what is my job as sub in zerg blitz?

[wicked tide]

im mad about what

that your a scared beta boy?

[proper vortex]

i cant do any pressure in zerg, and if their 4 man meele cleave looks at me im dead

[wicked tide]

and refused to fight a lobby because u were scared of it

[gilded gulch]

hit flags kill efcs

[wicked tide]

idk what im mad about it

[gilded gulch]

or defend your base and shit talk the rest of the group

for not capping mid

[wicked tide]

i just gave u a perspective that u dont like because u know it holds truth

and everyone reading this conversation wont say it but they know u look like a bitch for what you did

like it or not its just fact

[outer sky]

idk what youre mad about either but something def got under your skin. You should go outside from time to time and not take a video game so seriously its cringe man

[wicked tide]

sigh, you just dont get it

and thats okay

your asking for all my achievements and im the one taking hte game serious

im judging you for a mentality not because of a game

it has NOTHING to do with the game

its just htat y our a quitter

[outer sky]

sure if youre such an alpha let me see where its got you. I'm guessing absolutely nowhere or youd have shown

[wicked tide]

see what i mean u want to judge me based of a game and then u say im taking it to serious

imagine that brother

[gusty hedge]

Insult after insult, its the wild wild west

[outer sky]

man you started this judging me off a game lol I don't want to waste my time queuing into aids 3x pink class and you went off like calm down man

[wicked tide]

anyways listen i'd love to stay here and argue with u but i have things to do good luck my man

i hope you find your cock wherever u left it and screw it back on again and hit Q

[outer sky]

Left it in your mom I'll be back tonight to get it

lmfaoo

[wicked tide]

nice bro amazing insult

[outer sky]

thought you had other things to do?

Guess not?

[wicked tide]

only time u seen pussy is when u look in the mirror

[outer sky]

thats weird i thought I had 4 kids

[wicked tide]

gonna be bitch made just like daddy

[gusty hedge]

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Sargeras/Ayáme
https://check-pvp.fr/us/Area 52/Zicore

[wicked tide]

tell em how u ran from pink nameplates

there i am

my vanilla rogue in all ehr glory

[potent pivot]

The fuck is going on

[outer sky]

he's projecting

[wicked tide]

this guy just mad he ran from a shuffle and then i called him a beta

[potent pivot]

This isn’t the place for u idiots to fight

Shut up or get gone

[wicked tide]

bro your so fucking delusional its insane, your kids are gonna be a bunch of little vaginas just like there father

[gilded gulch]

No 1 pixel bloodfang set

not vanilla enough

/s

[potent pivot]

!mute @wicked tide

[snow harness]

guys can you get cataylst from 1600 blitz? or has to be solo shuffle / arenas?

[wanton breach]

You can

[snow harness]

kk bet

ty

[outer sky]

Calling someone else delusional over leaving a shuffle lobby when youre chronic duelist is hilarious. Its just a game man nothing more. Touch grass for once

[snow harness]

need that tier dawg

[molten hedge]

Playing into triple tuna class sounds fun

[spring bough]

[molten hedge]

Oh wait got my fishies mixed up

Triple salmon

[potent pivot]

Drop it or you are next

[outer sky]

Salmon

yeah

[outer sky]

Tuna would be like DH

[potent pivot]

I don’t have context of the whole thing but enough is enough

[gilded gulch]

salmon is orange

so druid

rdruid meta is bad for the game

[molten hedge]

They call it pink salmon tho

Or like it exists

[gilded gulch]

i mean there are terms for everything sometimes they're right.

[gleaming sentinel]

[gilded gulch]

and sometimes you have british people call foods "spicy"

[gleaming sentinel]

the sub rogue giga chad gamers are here bro

[gilded gulch]

that are the farthest from

[gleaming sentinel]

their time to shine and ego everyone

[spring bough]

sub rogue just so good everyone getting big cajones

[gleaming sentinel]

2pce on outlaw kinda slaps btw

[spring bough]

cant wait for the friday notes to nerf it into the ground

GG

[outer sky]

Was just about to say this

But the thing is

[molten hedge]

I once 6-0d a lobby on my boomie with 3 rets shit was insane

[gilded gulch]

well sub always gets nerfed because god forbid you can play something besides rmp

[outer sky]

with the shorter DRs and 20s dance, i dont think its possible for sub to be "bad"

[gleaming sentinel]

if they nerf sub rogue and leave ww, ret and demo like this

[spring bough]

another 10% dmg nerf

maybe 20 this time

[gilded gulch]

i had a double devourer lobby

[molten hedge]

Man stop

[gilded gulch]

"who do you wanna go?"

"the male one"

[molten hedge]

Body type 1*

[gilded gulch]

no one good plays male elf

[gilded gulch]

oh real

[outer sky]

Dumbest shit ive seen in any game in a long time ngl

[gleaming sentinel]

(I am male ne)

[gilded gulch]

💀

[gleaming sentinel]

statement is tru tho, F

[outer sky]

yeah you kinda walked into that one

[gilded gulch]

why do you do this to yourself

[gleaming sentinel]

I am what I am

[molten hedge]

I went up 300cr when I went female nelf

[molten hedge]

I wish they did have diff body types for female and male. that’d be sick tho

[outer sky]

So true

[gleaming sentinel]

[outer sky]

And where are the other 68 genders

[gilded gulch]

why cant i wear a mankini

sexism blizz

[gilded gulch]

wearing pants

[outer sky]

I love Discord lol

[stoic spruce]

#FreeTheNip

[molten hedge]

!bigbootybitches

[spring bough]

first round with warrior.... guy chases down mage and dies LOS

love warrior zug zug mentality

[outer sky]

Was he arms or fury?

[spring bough]

arms

[outer sky]

damn

arms is so bad rn

fury is somewhat decent

arms needs another 10-15% buff

[molten hedge]

I saw Magnus or someone did a video. I thought they’d be better after nerfs

Buffs sorry

[outer sky]

They are better

but thats not the same as being good

arms basically needs to do like 10% less damage than WW monk

[spring bough]

won second round cause he acttually went the target i suggested lol

[gilded gulch]

my favorite shuffle games are with healers who backseat game

and say to "just" stick on a frost mage

[molten hedge]

I mean we did win vs every warrior cleave ln as demo ret. And most were arms

There was one team on last ssns glad mounts playing a surv fury kfc and we bodied them in like 2 or 3 goes I was very confused

[outer sky]

"kick the poly" he says as the mage blinks across the map to cast poly after putting you in a 7 second long root

[gilded gulch]

man im sure glad they gave the spec that gets to move midcast a reward of being cc immune

after doing a basic juke

[molten hedge]

Unfortunately they don’t play shimmer anymore

They get blink stun on a shorter cd (:

And they can’t cast and blink

Only with the new displacement

[outer sky]

They need to make getting kicked as punishing as faking a kick is rewarding. Enough of this "magic school" bullshit. If faking a kick means you can free cast anything you want then getting kicked needs to mean you can't cast anything at all. No more getting locked on fear and still free casting chaos bolts enough is enough of this crap

[gilded gulch]

well yeah i can justify precog more for specs that actually only have 1 school

but mage and lock its a royal meme

[molten hedge]

Aff and arcane

Aff had malefic rapture but it’s gone

That shit had a 100 yard range lmao

[gilded gulch]

anytime lock is meta

i want to record how long i spend in pvp

[molten hedge]

Was insane on tol viron to long gate and cast 5 raptures while they waddle across the map

[gilded gulch]

vs how long is it in lock cc

[jaunty osprey]

fury is insane right now with ret paladins

[molten hedge]

Yeah it’s p nuts

[bold drum]

is there any guide on how to spend bloody tokens/honor/conquest ?

[outer sky]

I only queued into one since the buffs and it was in 2s and I killed him in the 2nd stun DR but that was probably just him being trash

[molten hedge]

They do immense dam and ofc have plenty of uptime with freedom

[outer sky]

yeah and they cant die cuz they have a ret

[potent pivot]

Pins

[outer sky]

so 2 healers, 2 dps on the team

if they have a VW or FW then its 2 healers 3 dps

Neopolitan Ice Cream cleave with a VW right now must be so good

[bold drum]

does the catalyzer pvp affects the pve one? i do pve and pvp

[spring bough]

in a blitz and this healer has 1 piece of pvp gear.... insignia

how is that possible

[potent pivot]

Yes you lose charges for both types of content. Conquest vendor has an item you can buy to add pvp ilvl to pve tier pieces

[last jasper]

I'm still impressed by this feature

[spring bough]

kinda surprised they didnt take out the add pvp ilvl to tier item lmao

its like they tryna encourage some PVE stuff for pvpers or vice versa but at the same time they never do shit for PVP

[gilded gulch]

big L they nerfed bloody token gear

to basically be honor gear with a wpvp bonus

[potent pivot]

Bonus isn’t even good apparently lol

Someone said it gives like 1% vers

[gilded gulch]

yeah but

its a case of something>nothing

[potent pivot]

Idk

[gilded gulch]

no idea what they were thinking tbh

[potent pivot]

If they wanted to make actual wpvp specific sets they should probably be a bit better than conq for wpvp specifically

[gilded gulch]

the only fun part of wpvp is whirling surging people

and watching them plummet into a hole

[potent pivot]

[rough rock]

This isn’t 1999 anymore just press windows + shift + s and get a direct cropped ss of the information being shared

(My turn to argue)

[gilded gulch]

either is better than a phone screenshot

[rough rock]

True lol

[gilded gulch]

wow is the only game i see it with consistently

[grave basin]

Theyre gonna nerf the talent that gives dance extension via haste i reckon

50% pvp mod on that

And call it a day

[rough rock]

I’m excited to come home Saturday and hit 1600 on outlaw in 4 hours for sure

[grave basin]

Youllbe top 10 outlaw

[ocean thunder]

who die easier dk or devourer?

[spring bough]

devourer can die fast lol

[gilded gulch]

sub has always been the bane of dh existence lul

[ocean thunder]

not this DH apparently on my shuffle

[gilded gulch]

i mean if he pre kites yeah

but wouldnt expect that at low mmr

[grave basin]

so these spectral chests that spawn every 30mins gives 1 setting per toon per week

[gilded gulch]

hard part is opening them without 20 people hitting you

[spring bough]

AH is closed... wonder what exploit that was lol

[ocean thunder]

where?

the pvp chests that drop?

[potent pivot]

It’s a secret

[potent pivot]

Funnily enough every time I’ve gotten one everyone had a mutual understanding of loot the chest no see red

[potent pivot]

The wpvp zone

There are other spawns too I’m sure I just don’t know em yet

[spring bough]

yeah dont even try to get those on tich.... ally kill ally and no1 loots it

[potent pivot]

They only give the first few people loot

So goodluck fr

[ocean thunder]

well a setting is like 12.5k honor

[grave basin]

yea insane value

[gilded gulch]

I mean didnt the ones in tww spawn like

once per 6h

[grave basin]

yeap, i still dont have the achivement to collect it on all zones

meanwhile im almost done getting the slayers rise meta

[outer sky]

DH used to have this absolutely ass busted passive talent that would automatically drop darkness under them whenever they'd drop below 35% HP and its cooldown was independent of their actual darkness button so basically every minute they could either trinket>darkness or have darkness auto proc for them while stunned

[grave basin]

just these 2 left

[gilded gulch]

wasnt that just the autoblur talent

[grave basin]

sounds like legion auto bubble

[red obsidian]

bro are there no chests to spam open in eversong?

[outer sky]

It was darkness

[potent pivot]

Yeah but we only have to be like, 3 of them? This season. Last expansion we had to buy like 9

[potent pivot]

What chests do you mean?

[outer sky]

Darkest Hour is what it was called

[red obsidian]

for sparks of war, in other zones you could fly around and open chests for sparks

[potent pivot]

Is the sparks quest in eversong this week?

[vocal surge]

Zero-In

[red obsidian]

yep

[vocal surge]

randomly clutched a Shuffle game for me

[potent pivot]

Dunno

[rough rock]

20 stacks?

[vocal surge]

Ye

Critted

on someone at 1/4 hp

Dude

I got the same lobby

reskinned xD

[grave basin]

another one on hunter

[spring bough]

bro wtf

[analog tapir]

anyone use this type of build ?=

[grave basin]

i accidentally hit this guy with my pet and hedidnt get the chest

proceeds to hit me and flag for pvp, i killed him without getting below 100%

[frank girder]

As a pve andy i wanna save my catalyst for 4set and currently on 0, which are the most valuable conquest piecest to invest without spending catalyst?

[viral heart]

is there anywhere i can see set stats in game

cant find it anywhere

[potent pivot]

Looks fine at a glance

[potent pivot]

Wowhead

Nothing in game afaik

[potent pivot]

Well you’d want to spend conquest on the stuff that adds pvp ilvl to your pve tier set once you get it

So just don’t spend any conquest til then

[ocean thunder]

our pvp talents suck a bit? if no disarm

[potent pivot]

https://www.wowhead.com/item-set=1987/motley-of-the-grim-jest

[potent pivot]

Tricks PvP talent

Or silhouette or dfa etc

[viral heart]

ty ty

[spring bough]

why are VW priests doing 20k plus dps

[bleak slate]

Any of you other Sin rogues just energy starved all game in solo shuff?

[potent pivot]

Proper energy management is back for assa ye

[grave basin]

yo this new 2h fishing sword goes hard

lost winter's sword

28k on the AH

[potent pivot]

You have to play it properly to maximize energy usage and regen

[potent pivot]

Fishing sword? Lol

[bleak slate]

Yeah, apparently so hah

[grave basin]

yea you get it from fihsing apparantly

it's huge

[bleak slate]

I might have to try that build in pins

[potent pivot]

Nice lmao

[bleak slate]

ive just been using what Murlok.io peeps have been doing

[potent pivot]

Gotta envenom more too prolly

Apex talents refund energy

[bleak slate]

Ye

ive been playing rot style still

prob out dated

CT doesnt seem to worth it anymroe in pvp

[hollow carbon]

You want CT for spreading bleeds still

[bleak slate]

I found it wasn’t too valuable, especially if there’s pet players

60 energy is nuts for it

[grizzled lodge]

For the crafting items, do we want the Competitor's boots or sliders?

[ocean thunder]

guardian druid pumping

[potent pivot]

The one with 2 stats

[potent pivot]

It’s still worth taking just in case you can pop one off

The other talent options there are dog anyway

[bleak slate]

The pinned build doesn’t have it

So prob out of date then

[potent pivot]

No

[rough rock]

Niiiiceeee I’m excited to come back Saturday

[rough rock]

I had a question about the r1 titles

[potent pivot]

You can run like 5 variations of talents as assa

I can’t pin them all

[rough rock]

Do lower played specs have lower slots for it?

[potent pivot]

Yes

[spring bough]

i find it funny when rets say they cant run... and they have freedom

[rough rock]

Damn so I really gotta grind if I’m trying to get my first ever one

Wonder how many slots outlaw will have

[potent pivot]

It’s week 1

There will be much more by end of season

[rough rock]

Ahh okay

[potent pivot]

Even the lowest played stuff usually gets a handful of slots

[grizzled lodge]

When putting crafting orders in TWW, you couldn't guarantee whoever took the order could craft an item at max quality, so it was always a gamle to put a public order.
Is it still like that and you have to find a crafter, or can I safely put in a public order?

[potent pivot]

Do you know the quality doesn’t matter for the pvp ilvl

[grizzled lodge]

I didn't know that. So public order's fine?

[potent pivot]

Yeah the material quality doesn’t matter either

Public orders are fine they just might take a little longer

Because crafters can only do a limited number of public orders per day or w/e

So finding a crafter might be faster

[outer surge]

anyone playing assassin and seeing any success in pvp? i feel like im having to move heaven and earth to do any form of lethal damage right now.

[potent pivot]

There’s a couple people yeah

The spec has pretty good dmg

[outer surge]

id argue its actually doing really bad right now. they someone have created new bugs for the class that are big hits to your damage

[potent pivot]

Idk from what I’ve seen it can do disgusting damage

[jaunty osprey]

took out the ret war with assa

the ret war was #1 ladder and beating mvq/petkick/montage

[potent pivot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1069679063184179242/1483681733168857159/image.png?ex=69bd740a&is=69bc228a&hm=88661323e9f135232484fbd79adf71d154dae73acceb8cd734a0a03c91a6beae&

[jaunty osprey]

assa doing more dam than fury and ret kekekeke

[snow harness]

yo thats dope af, how do i get that

[grave basin]

ah...

[jaunty osprey]

vanguards team on stream

trying figure out how to beat us

xd

saying assa feels tanky

[potent pivot]

[snow harness]

are talents the same or u switch any

[ocean thunder]

assa does not have something to make it tankier than any other rogue, right

[potent pivot]

Correct

[jaunty osprey]

but when u have good damage

it makes u tankier

[outer surge]

then i must be doing something wrong

because i feel as though i have 0 kill pressure

[outer sky]

Are you feeling the loss of CC much? When I tried assa I vanished, cheap shot once, realized I couldnt do it again, respec'd sub

[ocean thunder]

half of the game i am doing cheap shots and kidneys as subtlety, assa only has a kidney it feels so weird

the arena chest, the spectral - does it have an announcement?

[jaunty osprey]

yeah

but dev is good because

it has double deep breath

on a 50s CD

[jaunty osprey]

assa doing more dmg than dev here

[severe helm]

now where are the people popping off with outlaw??

[outer surge]

it just feels like i have to play like 5x better than some other melees.

ret and ww just do so much more than assassin

heck, i even had an arms warrior last night almost kill me with 2 abilities

[unborn shuttle]

Hey everyone! I’ve just come back to the game after a few years away, and I’m looking to get into PvP again.

I’m especially interested in playing RBGs and Solo Shuffle as a sub Rogue. I was wondering if there are any up-to-date resources, guides, or tips on how to approach each battleground/map as a Sub Rogue.

Any advice or direction would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance!

[stoic spruce]

I have a w-2

So I'm busy

[jaunty osprey]

all of these gmaes are vs r1 teams

assa damage actually seems legit

[severe helm]

Same

[snow harness]

what talents u running atm for these games ? @jaunty osprey

[severe helm]

Unfort

[jaunty osprey]

diff ones every game

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pvp bleed sudden zoldyck no 4p - https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/deathstalker/EAPFFRVVVAUVVQmJBQCBQNUVVFVRkFEWQkdBUFFVVVUCVA
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pvp envenom standard 4p - https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/fatebound/EAPFFRVVVAVUVQmJBQCBENUVRFVRlFGWEFNCVAFFVVVUBQ
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pvp bleed sudden 4p - https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/deathstalker/EAPFFRVVVAVUVQmJBQCBENUVRFVRlFGUEhdCUAFFVVVUCVA

[potent pivot]

Search on YouTube

[jaunty osprey]

you can play fatebound OR deathstalker for the bleed builds

[potent pivot]

Deathstalker

[jaunty osprey]

just play fatebound

T_T

[outer sky]

Whats the point though?

Just seems weird like I always played rogue because I liked CCing people. If I was the one who needed someone else to CC for me it would just be boring

I mean to each their own

But like at that point id play enh shaman or something idk

[jaunty osprey]

L take

what's the point of playing anything other than MM hunter last season then

[potent pivot]

Assassahancement

[outer sky]

Come on man

Im not saying play the most broken thing lol

But if theres a certain role you used to be able to fill and now you cant fill it

Thats a little different than just not playing whats overtuned

[marble oasis]

ahh yoooo

[safe mural]

Link ?

[marble oasis]

not amazing but more sustain is always nice

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/2270121/4

[safe mural]

Thx

[potent pivot]

Lol

That is insanely ass

[marble oasis]

just kill more people!

or we get a new bug with squeezable toads shh don't let blizz know

[spring bough]

devourer got a lil defensive healing nice

[potent pivot]

Lame changes all around lmao

For rogue I mean

[spring bough]

theyll never give rogue anything lmao

[marble oasis]

am i that starved. anytime i see rogue i'm happy no matter if good or bad? xD

[pastel burrow]

cloud cover is gonna be huge

This is it

This changes everything

[marble oasis]

don't think it's likesmokebomb

we can dream

[pastel burrow]

Nah it's not but it's gonna change everything

I'm looking into my crystal ball

[jaunty osprey]

Assa just plays like BFA/Slands assa now

just do damage

vs another 3x r1 last season team

assa just gaps everyone in damage this season if u play it properly

[potent pivot]

But did you know Deathmark is going to bounce to other targets now once your target dies???

[fathom crag]

https://x.com/Bigmoranx/status/2034746496118370425

Bigmoran (@Bigmoranx)

Hearing reports that Sub Rogues might be good in 2v2.

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X · Mar 19, 2026, 9:39 PM

[rough rock]

What the fuck are those MM buffs

AOE BLIND IS BACK

LETS GOOOOOOOO

[jaunty osprey]

NICE, GONNA BE USEFUL IN SHUFFLE!!!

[outer sky]

I played assa in bfa and slands so this sounds extremely sus. Idk why youre like this. I asked you a simple question and you started deflecting and gaslighting. This discord is weird today idk what yall are on like calm down

[rough rock]

Yo @spring bough those ddh buffs look solid

[spring bough]

24% heal 2 charges 30 sec CD

sounds hella nice or 1min 30% heal lol

[ocean thunder]

@jaunty osprey as assassin do you bleed many or focus one and time a good kindey KB double envenom? or osmething

[rough rock]

What is the point of this 😭

Insane that sub skips nerfs again

[spring bough]

trash talent

[jaunty osprey]

bleed 1 person and then crimson tempest other people

[outer sky]

These arent tuning notes are they?

Theyre ptr notes

[jaunty osprey]

use your single target garrote silence on everyone that you see fit

[stoic spruce]

I mean I get why they don't buff the CP refund

But like

Come on man

I'd be cool if you buffed it

[potent pivot]

They’re dev notes

Some changes and tweaks

[potent pivot]

Ya