pvp

[potent pivot]

Those are gone

[spring bough]

there is one but ur damage meter doesnt update with it LOL

[sharp sierra]

ahh damn im gonna miss milks

[potent pivot]

It’s also terrible for performance

[spring bough]

i turned off nameplates, action bar and cursor

[potent pivot]

They can’t change the combat text the way they used to

Now they have to do a very shit process

[covert bolt]

is sub rogue using ren'dorei or arcane mastery wep encahnts?

[potent pivot]

No idea yet

Likely won’t know until closer to season start

[covert bolt]

yeah it's a lot og G right now so if we dont know ill just wait lol

[potent pivot]

Wouldn’t bother wasting the gold on honor gear

[dark kernel]

Yeah I know the first 3 weeks of the Arena I do not bother with enchants. I'm not throwing a 100k at 3 weeks

And that's the prices are on the cheaper side

[snow harness]

question about pvp gearing, if you also want to pve and you will focus your cataylst for making pve tier, are you just behind on pvp tier until you get your pve 4 set?

or is there another way to get pvp tier

[potent pivot]

There’s another way

On the conq vendor

You can add pvp scaling to pve tier

[snow harness]

oooh thats dope, and you take no penalty in pve for it?

[potent pivot]

Nah

[snow harness]

i guess the only downside is that your spending conq on that which could of been used for other items

but still worth

do we still get free wep on week 3 or w,e it is

[potent pivot]

Nope

You would’ve spent the conq on the slots regardless

[snow harness]

true ye kk thats nice

were not forced to chose resources on pve/pvp now

i like these changes

and it also incentivizes to get pve tier lol

its either, buy a conq slot and use catalyst on it, or get pve tier peice and use scaling token on it

[potent pivot]

Not really

If you only pvp or if you pve and pvp, it’s all the same in the end

[severe helm]

Yeah it doesn't incentivize one or the other

Well in theory if you play both then you def want to catalyze a pve piece

And convert it to pvp

Cuz you can't do the other way around

And pvp conq gear is only champ track

Which is pretty bad

[snow harness]

well if you bought a conq piece from vendor, and then used cataylst on it. wouldnt it automaically be scaled to pvp?

thats what i mean yea

liek if ur doing both, its a good system

[stoic spruce]

2100 should unlock hero track for conquest gear or something idk

[snow harness]

do we still get free weps?

[potent pivot]

Prolly ye

Nothing has really been noted as changing compared to TWW

[spring bough]

if any1 is leveling alts.. dungeon ques for DPS are like 6min avg right now

[spring bough]

it used to. with vault............

[outer sky]

Wanna queue together? Will make em even faster

[spring bough]

guess not vulpera.....

how is cross faction dungeons still not a thing

[sharp sierra]

@gusty hedge okay last bug, did you do anything specific to turn off the elite icon on nameplates? Cause the option is turned off and they wont show lmao

[snow harness]

does first craft bonus xp wear off after a while?

i am trying to do more first crafts but im getting 0 xp now, i think i used up all my xp room lol

[potent pivot]

There’s a list of what to craft in the leveling thread I made

[molten hedge]

You can also get 10 hats so you don’t have to go back every hour

[snow harness]

where can i find the level guide

[potent pivot]

It’s linked in the pins

[gusty hedge]

no

[sharp sierra]

ill live for now

[proper void]

Anyone finding success in 1v1s with Assassin?

[stoic lava]

What outlaw build is looking the best atm 😮 been too locked in on the tbc

[sharp sierra]

press N and switch to sub

[severe helm]

@potent pivot have you tried rested xp guides?

every time I try this addon it just does nothing

[snow harness]

im doing pre- 90 bgs right now, and man sub is so fun my goodness

[severe helm]

its entirely bugged and just gives me bullshit instructions that are meaningless and never progresses haha

how do people genuinely use this

[potent pivot]

You have to pay for them bud

[severe helm]

I have the guide

[potent pivot]

$35 for midnight

[severe helm]

I have it

lol

the addon is just fubar

[potent pivot]

It works fine

But it’s unnecessary

Get Harldans addon

[severe helm]

is there some special setup you have to do

[potent pivot]

No

[severe helm]

like which one do I even pick

theres so many questions and so little information

hahaha

[potent pivot]

Idk I don’t use it

But all the rwf guys do as an advertisement

[severe helm]

Ive never seen it actually workin

[potent pivot]

Literally just get Harldans addon

[potent pivot]

Worked fine for max n them idk

[severe helm]

Ive only seen it on advertisements lol

I test it out every xpac and its always the same broken thing that just gets stuck on random steps and never progresses haha

[stoic lava]

I refuse

[severe helm]

guess theyve never fixed it

[potent pivot]

Brain too smol

Are u using the cracked shit

[stoic lava]

I use it for classic and it works perfect

[severe helm]

im using a genuine version

[stoic lava]

retail is a themepark ride so not sure why you'd buy it though haha

[severe helm]

no crack

I was just curious

I already did one char

[stoic lava]

yea fair

[snow harness]

kind of weird how minicc addon does show when you disarm someone

doesnt show*

[potent pivot]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/follow-the-arrow

[severe helm]

eh im over it

[severe helm]

just gona read a guide online

[sharp sierra]

what ive been running

[severe helm]

the handhold guides never fucking work lol

maybe api changes broke em

[potent pivot]

Why are so many wow players like this

[sharp sierra]

the guide in the thread is dumb simple to follow

[potent pivot]

Try something, can’t get it to work, give up on all forms of that something

[sharp sierra]

the game itself even tracks quests for you

[potent pivot]

I cba

[severe helm]

hey man if its stuck on telling me to go through dragonflight quests thats not on me

they should at least add some error handling so it reports what bug is causing it to fault

[potent pivot]

A likely story

[severe helm]

addon devs be strugglin

[sharp sierra]

they forget to have claude generate that part

[severe helm]

ngl it looks like it hasnt been updated since cata haha

[potent pivot]

Players be struggling

Operator error

If max can figure that shit out bro..

[severe helm]

paid op be paid

[potent pivot]

Doesn’t matter

[severe helm]

I think it might be because ive never used it before

so its stuck on how I leveled in the past

[potent pivot]

He asks his chat how to do everything

[severe helm]

if you probably use the guide every time

it like functions properly

[potent pivot]

Are you smarter than twitch chat?

[severe helm]

but since ive never followed one it might be just gettign stuck

on older xpacs

[snow harness]

gonna use follow the arrow addon for 88-90 i think, ive done my delve quests, ive done my first crafts, i am so burnt lol

[potent pivot]

I’d like to think you are

[severe helm]

the issue seems very apparent I just cant fix it for them

I tried out like 5 of the versions including the default unpaid and they all get stuck in dragonflight

this is a boosted characeter so might be why

it doesnt like that I didnt do that xpac or something coudl be parsing my achievements and wanting me to have done those quest lines for specific items or something

cuz it does like to leverage old items for free hearths/teleports

[gusty hedge]

Ended the night with a bang! 😂

[severe helm]

assa?

[gusty hedge]

sub

[severe helm]

wiiiild

[stoic spruce]

Assa and outlaw lowkey throwing

When sub is down the hall to the right

[latent patrol]

ive been playing sub in warmode

idk how to pvp but its very funny

[hybrid sapphire]

im doing my first "prey" thing

[gleaming sentinel]

nah outlaw fine

[hybrid sapphire]

and its kinda like pvp.. kinda

[stoic spruce]

Yeah dmg wise and stuff but like

As a rogue

You're gonna want sub for rogue tasks

Imma still play outlaw for sure, but the days of full team lockdown while keeping up with dmg is over

[severe helm]

@potent pivot I fixed it! All I had to do was go into the raw guide data and delete all information for below level 80 so it didnt get stuck and now it can actually progress the guide properly

was def just tripping on itself cuz it didnt like how I had leveled or cuz im a boost or something

am I smarter than twitch chat now?

[snow harness]

does voidstorm get more pvp crates then other zones? or all the same

[potent pivot]

User error

[severe helm]

definitely

[potent pivot]

You didn’t know you had to manually edit the code???

Crazy

[severe helm]

im just dumb I guess

[potent pivot]

But idk that’s weird

It seemed very simple for everyone

[severe helm]

I tend to run into things like that

idk why

[hybrid sapphire]

im 89. should i just stack vers haste when i hit 90? assa

[potent pivot]

Naw

Prolly just gonna be vers/mast again, hasn’t really been tested yet

[hybrid sapphire]

hmm

[potent pivot]

A little haste won’t hurt but it doesn’t do very much for energy

[hybrid sapphire]

do we know how much haste = how much energy regen

[snow harness]

pre 90 BGS are better for getting honor / winning games then level 90 bgs for horde might be the play

when leveling alt

[potent pivot]

I don’t remember. It’s miniscule.

[hybrid sapphire]

[potent pivot]

It’s not really worth worrying about

If we run any it’ll be feelycraft

Whatever makes people feel more comfortable

[sharp sierra]

30-45 mins per crate

Apparently there’s groups for doing it TWW because it’s faster but I haven’t tried it yet

[potent pivot]

If all those zones still spawn them then prolly

You could hit something like 5 crates per 20min in TWW zones

And that was in s2 so it may have become 6 in s3

[snow harness]

the war within zones?

they give 150 honor to?

i never even thought to try that lol

[potent pivot]

usually old zone crates have been giving currencies

at least since like tww i know you could go back to dragonflight zone crates

but it felt like they nerfed that pretty early on

[snow harness]

hmm if i can find a grp i think ill test it

[potent pivot]

thing is rn crates just aren't worth the time

can just farm the training ground for honor

[snow harness]

im getting about 40k xp a random bg atm which isnt terrible, and im winning every game pre 90 which is nice, feels way better then doing bgs at 90 cus of scaling

[potent pivot]

crates are mainly a conq thing

so when season starts if crates are good hella people will be farming em

[proven field]

what the fuck is this MW damage

[snow harness]

yea i thought my details was bugged

but mw crank lol

[proven field]

Dude was literally globalling people

there is a lot of funky shit going on right now... getting non-stop 5 and 6 healer groups, people one-hitting with 40+ kbs, entire guilds on a team sync-queuing, it's fucking bad tonight

[snow harness]

is that level 90 bgs your talking about?

[proven field]

nah 81-89

[snow harness]

ally or horde?

[proven field]

im on ally side

[snow harness]

🙂

get wrecked noob

jk bro

[proven field]

you first steve austin

[snow harness]

i am queing 81-89 on horde side

and i have won every game

which is nice cus on my mage when i hit 90 i lost 10 bgs in a row lol

[proven field]

im just hitting back to back brazilian teams

[final pewter]

enemy hunter uses turtle and the important buffs shown for him are priest's stamina and mage's intellect buffs xd

blizz nameplates ftw i guess

[snow harness]

i got minicc addon, and for some reason hunter turtle doesnt show up

every other cd does though but hunter turtle is flying under the radar lol

[final pewter]

im going to check the minicc thank you bro 😄

[snow harness]

i dont think you can add spells to it and its not on their by default

they may have to update it or something idk

[proven field]

John this one was for you

[snow harness]

great name, 10/10 lmao

[maiden gull]

dont u lack CB without the Ambush stuff?

[snow harness]

did they buff menuver pvp talent btw?

60% dmg reduct in stun if you can pre-feint is kinda of wild, wasnt it only 40% total before?

[proven field]

yeah I pre-feint almost every fight

you go rogue vs rogue and you both are feinting so much it looks like a puppet fight in team america

[snow harness]

lmfao

yea nice thing about feint is its not on global so u can pre feint pretty easily, ill prob pre-feint every time i open just incase they trinket stun my go im protected

[sharp sierra]

Don’t think a single person here runs it

[analog tapir]

im just looking on high rated players talents and it confuses me

[sharp sierra]

https://x.com/grimlockwow/status/2030139161018089669?s=46&t=9LYSSmKHQoj4DH5q_SF5PA

Grimlock (@Grimlockwow)

This weapon enchant works in PvP and is insanely cheap. Go get yo half duration disarm melee DPS! :)

X · Mar 7, 2026, 4:31 AM

[strange trellis]

which parts?

[gusty hedge]

👀

[strange trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-gandalf-dont-tempt-me-gif-18418543

[gusty hedge]

Just Bought one

[next ocean]

do we have a cookie cutter build for sub pvp? only see prepatch builds in pins

[outer sky]

Pins are updated

Those builds work

[molten hedge]

It feels like it’ll be nerfed expeditiously

[jolly sierra]

WHAT THE HECK

boy gotta be a full factory today

[next ocean]

ah thanks only saw prepatch build and didnt look at those 😄

[little quest]

anyone know of an addon that adds DRs to nameplates? getting pretty annoying wasting CS/Kidney cd on immune targets in bgs, after joining a fight

[outer sky]

MidnightDRs or Fresh DRs

[little quest]

thanks, will check them out

[outer sky]

Doesn't this not work on ilvl 50+ gear?

[molten hedge]

It works

My friend was dueling me yday

[outer sky]

I swear this has always had an ilvl restriction

[molten hedge]

It doesn’t rn

He did say that

Sure it’ll get fixed soon lol

[outer sky]

They just randomly changed the requirements for an enchant from cata?

[molten hedge]

Once it hits fucking twitter it’s over

Idk man it works lol

At least in duels

[gusty hedge]

[molten hedge]

I assume it’d be the same for any PvP

[outer sky]

I game on a $600 laptop but my gun collection is worth over $50k lol

[strange trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

[outer sky]

To be perfectly honest with you I dont really see the issue. I think an enchant like this is perfectly fine. 2.5s disarm would still be plenty annoying, and you have to give up a dps weapon enchant to run it. Idk just doesnt seem that terrible

I think the fact that people can just script their disarms to shit like pillar of frost and doomwinds, 100% of the time, never even having to think about it, and shutting down a go just with that is boring

[molten hedge]

No I agree with you

[outer sky]

Hopefully if/when they "fix" this they'll forget to make it not work on weapons its already applied to. I would totally run this season's honor weapon in my off-hand over a conq weapon all season long, shit maybe even all xpac long, if this enchant was on it and it worked.

Then just swap to a conq weapon vs teams that dont have a disarm

[grave basin]

https://x.com/wowhead/status/2029963615541792955?s=46&t=Vq0N_m2IC0F08usKxdqMwQ

Wowhead💙 (@Wowhead)

Paladins dominate class choice in our quick poll for Midnight!

#warcraft #midnight

X · Mar 6, 2026, 4:53 PM

[stoic spruce]

I miss when DK was at the bottom

How tf mage at the bottom

I call BS

[gusty hedge]

"quick poll" like many of us didnt vote 😛

[stoic spruce]

Nah

I'm reading half the title and get mad about what I read

[grave basin]

im going crazy just trying to full gear 1 toon

how do people spam these bots BGs man

[molten hedge]

Lol maybe soo

That could be cool

[outer sky]

Thats how i feel about leveling

[grave basin]

legit im only 1/5 of the way on 3 toons

[gleaming sentinel]

Popo the fotm player

[spring bough]

hey atleast we arent last

[grave basin]

ur a dh main now

[stoic spruce]

Nuh uh!

[spring bough]

leveling my outlaw as we speak

wym

[outer sky]

You got any horde toons to level?

Slylie Coyote needs a friend

[spring bough]

i got a few horde rogues maybe after i get the human one to max

[outer sky]

What level are you?

[spring bough]

about to be 86

[outer sky]

Im trying to decide if after I level this 2nd rogue if I want to level another rogue or my hunter

The other rogue would be alliance

Hunter is horde

[spring bough]

DH / rogue for me so far hunter is a maybe on me

i got an orc hunter

[outer sky]

Me too

The 1% pet dam man

Gotta have it

[spring bough]

@potent pivot ellesmere updated today... way less bugs its looking awesome

[gusty hedge]

ONLY worth like 2 or 3 que reg bgs and cash in that weekly brawl/ one day win epic after awhile you get like 80 or less honor a win from training grounds even with flask

if u get a taem taht steamrolls the bots and games under 5 mins its gg but thats a coin flip

[gleaming sentinel]

1 char. I’ll do a Pres for the healer pennant and that’s it.

[spring bough]

doing like 45min per level on the rogue with quests / dungeon ques

pretty nice ngl

[molten hedge]

Horde is not fun in slayers rise lmaoo

[molten hedge]

Kinda wanna give her a spin. I have MiniCC, BBP, BBF, and platy. Will it mess with them

[proven field]

Me when a MW hits me for 70k in one global: https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1rn3soo/no_hrt_needed/

[spring bough]

snap to elements in the edit mode is the best thing ive ever used lol

got rid of bettercdm too since it does CDM

[molten hedge]

I didn’t have CDM anyway so that’s ok

What else you rly like

@spring bough

[spring bough]

does action bars and the blizz frames well and tthe frame optimization actually works wwell

[grave basin]

agree

[spring bough]

Key to the arcantina is finally just a silver moon hearth but they upped the CD to 15min

[jolly sierra]

in europe

pyrium chains

worth for 85g each

crafting 18

[severe helm]

Ooooooo

Sick

[broken otter]

So, I'm still leveling. Is Assassination still super squishy in comparison to Subtlety, or has that changed?

I do alot of random BGs/WPvP so I find myself in 1v1s without heals often

As for the actual dmg rotation and stuff, I'm kinda liking Assassination when it comes to whacking on mobs.

[molten hedge]

downloads Ellesmere

lol look how pixelated shit is. im sure its some easy fix but it's funny

[severe helm]

Lol the fuck

Mine doesn't look like that at all

Did you turn off your other stuff

[molten hedge]

no 🙂

[severe helm]

Same same

[broken otter]

Bummer

[severe helm]

That won't change this season most likely

Since it would require more of a rework

And they probably will only do tuning for at least the first half the season

[spring bough]

thats not how mine looks LMAO

[grave basin]

sub is so strong while leveling

crazy

ofc im using a 160 dagger from tww but still

[spring bough]

trying to keep my haste up while leveling as outlaw GG

[spring bough]

the one bug ive noticed is the action bar highlights when pressing

sometimes itll show the highlight that u pressed and then itll just stop lol

[grave basin]

typical alliance pov

noice

does ebg not have the 1k honor quests?

[broken otter]

They will when season starts

[jolly sierra]

disgusting, why i got streamers in my skirmish

[spring bough]

The one did last time I played

The artifact one

[dark kernel]

whats supposedly our go to PvE spec for M+ this season

just in case I feel squirrely

[jolly sierra]

idk i kill people

[dark kernel]

huehuheueheueh

[spring bough]

i swear paladin intelligence levels rival that of 2 year olds

i put down a shroud and this guy ran around it

and pulleed a ton of mobs lmaooooo

[outer sky]

Dont insult my 2 year old like that

[analog tapir]

no clue im abit hammerd

[halcyon timber]

Smokebomb down —> Dk deathgrips

[outer sky]

Or monk rops

Or druid clones

[halcyon timber]

Absolutely a circus

[outer sky]

Hunters used to scatter but thats gone thank god

Well that only trolled me because I was assa

[halcyon timber]

Oof cyclones the enemy in the smokebomb is real painful

[jolly sierra]

i am a fkn genius

[outer sky]

Yeah man I genuinely believe that abilities like cyclone, time stop, and ice wall should just be greyed out in pvp until the player reaches at least 2700xp

[halcyon timber]

Unga bunga seeing a blinded target : challenge accepted

Watching shaman hit spacebar instead of healing / doing anything remotely as a good idea is also common currently

[spring bough]

this profile is amazing. it recolors the cast bar if interrupt is on CD or not

[outer sky]

You guys ever have a teammate getting trained by melee and so he DR stuns them literally like 1 second before stun DR was going reset and then dies? And hes like "I had to man i waa trying to live!" And its just like, bro you could have waited 1 more second and I could have fully stunned both of them and you actually would have lived

[halcyon timber]

Its like warriors blowing all mobility and refusing to read talents or do anything reasonable then complaining

[outer sky]

Or when your caster is kiting you better than theyre kiting the enemy melee

So you cant get close enough to do a go lmfao

[halcyon timber]

Constantly

Choices: A panic and short cc
B: use teleport
C: Drain life after B
D: hit spacebar and blame healer

Warlock chooses A and D

[outer sky]

They can gate twice in a row now

[halcyon timber]

Yep but they can’t be bothered to read or come up with rational answers

The new blight curse is filthy too

50% for 12s diablo cauldron style attack from ff7 that splash hits all nearby targets as a smart missile

I just blind the lock on double gate to sap or just smokebomb the gate he wants to go to so he cant double gate

[gleaming sentinel]

Which one of yall was this

[spring bough]

havent leveled mine yet lolol

[outer sky]

Old joke

[gleaming sentinel]

[spring bough]

finding a tank in LFG dungeons that invites u to que after is amazing

[maiden gull]

god is pvp awful, worst state it has ever been ion

[static holly]

Guess u mean wpvp, which is no pvp

[molten hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[sharp sierra]

Idk why people recommend this. You get more honor for losing a bg than winning those ai one

Also que for ashran and grab the quest to go kill mobs. 1000 honor and took me 5 minutes

[snow harness]

when are you able to transfer honor?

[static holly]

S1

[molten hedge]

Do you? They only take like 5 minutes and you get like 600 honor

I did 4 and triple capped every time and won in 5 mins or less. Regular BGs can take way longer

[outer sky]

@molten hedge disarm enchant works in pvp, confirmed

Like in actual arena

Not just duels

[spring bough]

thats fire cant waitt for it to get nerfed by season start

#nofunleague

[snow harness]

ty, any other specific bs that give a bonu shonor?

[molten hedge]

Nicee

Pretty sick

[snow harness]

bgs*

[potent pivot]

That was some cap

[spring bough]

@potent pivot https://x.com/ellesmeregaming/status/2030315373732548803?s=46&t=YKaisWqFkCTf8y-DfuEaHw

Ellesmere (@EllesmereGaming)

new record low for ALL EllesmereUI addons (action bars, nameplates, unit frames, CDM, resource bars, aurabuff reminders, and cursor) enabled while in a dungeon holyyyy

X · Mar 7, 2026, 4:11 PM

[potent pivot]

I know

[spring bough]

It feels good ngl lol

The only thing that’s bugging now is it’s CDM shows the bones buff as the spell and not the roll

Idk how to fix that

He said more updates later today recently 🔥

[potent pivot]

Just gotta give it time

It’s too new for it to be perfect lol

[spring bough]

It was working earlier for the cdm then outta nowhere the bones spell was showing on it instead of the roll 😭

[potent pivot]

Just report it

In his disc

[potent pivot]

.>

Bot bg queues and games are way faster than regular BGs

[potent pivot]

Put the buffs in tracked buffs instead of the CDM?

Would that work

[spring bough]

It might but won’t be on the same bar 😭

[potent pivot]

Yeah

I prefer tracked buffs being on a diff bar when they aren’t basic stuff

[snow harness]

no bro i did the specific akzhar or w,e and i got 1k honor easy

[spring bough]

doesnt have the individual bones rolls in there to select from... RIP

[snow harness]

im wondering if theres another bg that has a quest like that lol

[potent pivot]

ohh

[potent pivot]

one of the more complex cdm addons may be able to do exactly what u want

idek

[spring bough]

i just went back to bettercdm till he updates it lol

[potent pivot]

u can just turn off the 1 thing on elles too

[static holly]

@snow harness thousand Winter should have a 1k honor q for winning

Somehow it wasn't available for me 😑

[spring bough]

88 on the rogue and somehow still over 20% haste lol

[potent pivot]

my damn essential cooldown columns are stuck lol

trying to make the top row 8 wide instead of 6, to match the resource bars

[worthy lark]

why isnt sub smoke bomb tracked in the coolodwn manager?

assa and outlaw is but not sub

[potent pivot]

think its just a bug

[worthy lark]

guess because the cd is different so different spell ID

annoying AF

[spring bough]

that with ellese? i went back to bettercdm till another update lol

[potent pivot]

naw

i haven't been on long enough to try elles' yet

this is just cdm centered and sensei resource

i don't have arc or bettercdm, might have to try bettercdm

i hated arc's settings ui it was terrible

[spring bough]

bettercdm pretty much what ellese has so its nice to swap between lol

[potent pivot]

did you swap out your wtf/interface folders

before trying elles

[severe helm]

Arcs settings are awful

But the addon has a lot of good functionality

Kinda like plater

Awful to setup though

On my alts I just did ellesui for leveling

Cuz it was so much quicker to setup

[potent pivot]

i didn't mind plater. it was kinda like evlui, just have to take a bit to learn it

arc's settings are just ass

[severe helm]

Arcs the same way once you learn it haha

I think theyre both bad

[potent pivot]

it looks dogshit tho

[spring bough]

nope lol

[severe helm]

Esp when comparing to how fucking insanely easy ellesui is

[potent pivot]

plater settings looked polished

[severe helm]

They all suck

[outer sky]

What enchants are we running besides the disarm one?

[severe helm]

I mean plater vs arc is like cat shit vs dog shit

[potent pivot]

no one has tested enchants that i know of

[outer sky]

Is it worth enchanting honor gear?

[severe helm]

Plater has so many weird choices like they have a tab called cast bar but then half the cast bar settings aren't even in that tab

It's complete nonsense

[snow harness]

if u got extra cash maybe but they are kinda expensive

hopefully the t1 enchants are affordable by the 17th

[potent pivot]

fuck no lol

i think these wep enchants are likely

main stat/mast

[snow harness]

we run two diff enchants one for each wep?

[potent pivot]

thats what its looking like ye

a bit abnormal, but if they're doing it in pve there's a reason behind it i'm sure

[potent pivot]

what even is this disarm one

[potent pivot]

thats like an open world thing no?

[outer sky]

works in arena

i tested it

[potent pivot]

i have a feeling that won't last

what slot does it go on

wep?

[outer sky]

yeah but you only need 1

can put a dps enchant on the other

[potent pivot]

hmm

[potent pivot]

this isn't even from midnight?

def won't last nope

[outer sky]

I'm going to have an extra weapon with a dps enchant on it so I can run this into teams with a disarm and that into teams without one

[outer sky]

Nah its from cata

[potent pivot]

yeah thats gonna get nerfed insta

[outer sky]

it used to have an ilvl 50 or less requirement

they raised it to 320

[potent pivot]

likely a scaling bug

Time to report that

[snow harness]

man the coup de gra gcd is tough to get used to, i always feel like i have enough time to do one more finisher but my stun is gapped by liek .1 lol

[jolly sierra]

i got 8k gold from selling chains

XD

thanks fools

[potent pivot]

They are 50k on NA realms rn

I wouldn’t buy them tho

That shit won’t last

[jolly sierra]

ofc

u sell em

because ppl is dumb and would think would work

i craft them myself after a run farming ores

[potent pivot]

Ye run it up lol

[outer sky]

wait what

theyre 50k?

[snow harness]

what chains?

[jolly sierra]

XD

[potent pivot]

On my realm they were

[outer sky]

I bought 40 of them this morning for 7g each

[jolly sierra]

yes

in EU they were 5k each

[outer sky]

i bought em for 7g

[potent pivot]

Wouldn’t bother worrying about it

[outer sky]

like 40

[jolly sierra]

sell them asap

[sharp sierra]

@outer sky

[potent pivot]

It’ll get fixed soon

[jolly sierra]

yeye

cuz that

[sharp sierra]

Oh it’s still sending

[jolly sierra]

get all the fkn gold

[sharp sierra]

They fixed the flasks

Or getting fixed this week idk

[outer sky]

ya a couple days ago

[sharp sierra]

W

[snow harness]

priest disperse / hunter turtle

arent showing on minicc

is there a way to manually add them? or have to wait for them to update it

[outer sky]

Dont think so

dont think you can add them

ok so the chains are going on my server for 50k as well

but there was one left at 2.3k

i bought it

so now mine are the lowest price

at 48k

Im selling 42 of them

41 I bought for 7g each

this is amazing

[snow harness]

why are they so much, what do they do lol

[outer sky]

I'm keeping 4 in my inventory on the very off chance this doesnt get fixed

[jolly sierra]

you can undercut and can secure an instabuy

[outer sky]

but theyre from cata

they used to only work on weapons ilvl 50 and under

so probs not intended

[outer sky]

how much do you think I should charge?

[snow harness]

u acnt use them on midnight gear right?

[outer sky]

You can!

[jolly sierra]

25k

[outer sky]

thats the part thats clearly unintended

[snow harness]

do they work in pvp?

[outer sky]

yes

[snow harness]

lol wtf

[outer sky]

tested it myself

[snow harness]

is there a way to farm them in a cata zone or anything

[outer sky]

You dont think thats a little low?

[outer sky]

idk

[jolly sierra]

for some inflated speculation?

where can be fixed soon?

nah

is a quick decision

and safe bet

[outer sky]

alright I updated them to 25k

thisll get me 1m if they sell

[snow harness]

zicore are u on eu or na

[outer sky]

not bad for like 250g

[outer sky]

NA

yeah I'm literally in these all for less than 300g

if I even sell 1

giga ROI

[snow harness]

man i thought i was clever with the ring farm lol

i leveld 80-90 in 4 hours and made like 250k

but everyone is doing it now so its not as good

[outer sky]

This wasnt intentional. They were so cheap I just bought them all up because I wanted to make sure I never didn't have one if I wanted one, ever

and for 7g each

why not

just buy em all

so I did

now a few hours later I see theyre 50k each lol

[snow harness]

i wonder if u can farm them in cata

are they actually selling?

[outer sky]

Idk I just reposted them on the AH like 2 minutes ago

i mean mine are half the price of the rest

and I doubt anyone else did what I did and bought a shit ton

I still have 4 in my inventory on the off chance this doesnt get hotfixed

thats one for each rogue

[snow harness]

they last forever eh

i just disarmed a rogue in a bg and it was 2.5 seconds xd

he prob had it

can you have that chain on your wep + a wep enchant?

or one or other

[outer sky]

Yes you can

wait

i misread that

no each weapon can only have 1 or the other

so for as long as this works

put a dps enchant on one wep

and this chain on the other

[vocal surge]

it is time..

for the obligatory rogue main to level up a new rogue alt

what race should I go with?

[outer sky]

Vulpera

[vocal surge]

No

No furry races I should add

[outer sky]

Mechagnome

[potent pivot]

Orc

[sharp sierra]

Bro boutta get suspended by the cartels

[potent pivot]

[vocal surge]

Mechagnomes: I
Orc: I

Anyone else?

[potent pivot]

Orc

[sharp sierra]

Undead: I

[potent pivot]

That’s 2

[vocal surge]

Sheesh, Undead

the OG Vanilla race people got tramautized by

[sharp sierra]

Wasn’t it because it had some special perk with priest?

[vocal surge]

Touch of the Grave racial

and Devouring Plague spell for priest

[sharp sierra]

Ah

[true warren]

why do so many sub rogues play subter build over tea?

[potent pivot]

They really need to buff this one

[potent pivot]

Because you don’t need energy

[vocal surge]

Yeee

[outer sky]

Because youre never energy starved during dance and you dont need to spend combo points outside of dance to farm charges back anymore. So theres just no reason to spend all those talents on energy

[potent pivot]

Touch of the grave is like 2% worse than every other racial in the game it’s crazy bad

[true warren]

do we simply just ignore subterfuge then? or wait till it expires before dance?

[potent pivot]

It’s just added access to cc from vanish if you need it

[outer sky]

You can cheap shot with it to save a global during dance

[potent pivot]

[true warren]

with trickster i would just CS in the opener anyway right?

out of stealth

[potent pivot]

Out of stealth ya typically

[outer sky]

Yes in most cases

[jolly sierra]

troll

w green skin

i sold all my chains

were 9

[stoic spruce]

It's bugged rn, it randomly pops off

And I feel I can safely say it'll never get fixed lol

[analog tapir]

?CAN we all agree demo locks are disgusting ?

[outer sky]

How much did you sell em for?

[frozen walrus]

Is there a way to have 2 spells in a Macro where it will use Spell A if its off CD and Spell B if Spell A is on CD?

[outer sky]

If both are on the GCD then yes

[jolly sierra]

2500g, eu is different

each

[frozen walrus]

They both are

[jolly sierra]

crafting them took like 20g

[tranquil siren]

anyone try outlaw in pvp since the changes?

[outer sky]

/cast Spell A
/cast Spell B

Thats it

[frozen walrus]

THats it?!

Ok Ill try it

Thanks!

So that doesnt work 🙁

It casts Spell A but doesnt cast Spell B when Spell A is on CD

[outer sky]

whaaat

it should

idk maybe not then

[frozen walrus]

They both take a GCD

I think thats why

[outer sky]

you still have to wait for the gcd

[little quest]

how much haste are you guys going for in honor gear? as sub

[potent pivot]

It’s not very good to do that no

[potent pivot]

~600

[little quest]

are the 2 more globals worth it over full mastery?

[potent pivot]

Yeah

[frozen walrus]

Ya I knew I had to wait for the GCD, but for some reason, after I use Spell A and then wait for the GCD, I can spam the button for Spell B and it never works.

[potent pivot]

You should never macro 2 GCDs together

[molten hedge]

600 in or out of pvp? I noticed my gear wasn’t scaling on PvP dummies in Dorn

[frozen walrus]

I know. I was just curious

Thanks for the help guys

[potent pivot]

In pvp

[spring bough]

Time to gear the outlaw out for PvP

First bg enemy team has 5 locks……

[potent pivot]

[snow harness]

this i my bg team lol

[spring bough]

Any1 been on a losing team for training grounds yet? 😭

[wanton breach]

you can't lose if you don't play

[stoic spruce]

They still busted?

[jolly sierra]

@outer sky just bought 300 ores

10g each

[spring bough]

we almost lost lol

[vague cedar]

guys

i need your help

is there any content creators for pvp

there is literally no one or what

[potent pivot]

There’s a bunch why

[vague cedar]

hm

i guess my research skills are lacking

im trying to learn some pvp

and want to watch some rogueing

[potent pivot]

You should mostly just play it then

Skillcapped has some basic guides on YT

[vague cedar]

ye i do

but kinda want to see how other approach situations

[potent pivot]

There’s not much step by step pvp guides

[vague cedar]

ye i figured

[potent pivot]

Too much changes every season

[vague cedar]

i see

[snow harness]

so is it better to dance > cheap now, to get the bonus dance damage added onto our pet shadow strike dmg?

for the opener

[potent pivot]

No

[spring bough]

Trinkets done onto weps and farming boxes in between ques. My god this is boring a second time around 😂

[outer sky]

Ores?

[potent pivot]

The stuff used to craft the weapon thing

[outer sky]

Ah

Yeah may as well make some money

[severe helm]

Does sub cheap off target now and kidney kill target?

That sounds more awkwArd

Figured you'd still double cheap the kill target right?

[potent pivot]

No

[potent pivot]

You do

But you don’t waste your first global on cheap if you can help it

From stealth or subterfuge > from dance

[severe helm]

Ah sure

But like every other go would be dance->cheap right?

Not for the bonus damage but just cuz you have to lol

[potent pivot]

Yea

[gusty hedge]

late to the party but haranir

[subtle warren]

wait they removed all the bloody tokens we got while leveling?

[gusty hedge]

removed once midnight launched globally

early access still considered tww

[subtle warren]

oof i wouldve spent them

i had a bunch

or could we not spend anyway

[gusty hedge]

you could spend at the vendor for twwpieces u havent gotten , i had 9k left over when it reset, nothing to buy

[vocal surge]

Bro...

Lvl 8

and this rare almost kills me on Exile's Reach

Fight lasts long enough for 2 Crimson Vial uses

[spring bough]

Are the PvP items out to craft pieces yet

Any one been looking at embellishes

[molten hedge]

why is that again? to finish on a spender instead of builder?

[dark kernel]

Exiles reaches a meme leveling experience don't even use it

I pretty much exclusively level traditionally, sometimes Cata time walking (it's the only decent one)

TBC TW isn't that bad either but I'm overnit

[vocal surge]

Is it a meme now?

I recall it being really good back when it was first introduced

[potent pivot]

Yeah, you can fit an extra finisher if you start on a finisher

Especially with longer dance and shadow tech and 4th apex and coup and sec tech

There’s many reasons

[potent pivot]

Nope

And I assume embellishments are going to be a meme again

I’ve been waiting until closer to season start to really dig into enchants/embellishments

[spring bough]

wait there is flying in this new epic bg... LOL

[sharp sierra]

I spent 45 min trying to get a Que and left lmao

[spring bough]

some druid dismounted on the way to the objective and left me mid air

this is chaos

[hybrid sapphire]

im finally 90. is there a buy order for honor lol or should i not gaf

[spring bough]

random bgs currently a cesspool of 0 objectives being done and all complaints about pally/monk LMAO

[spring bough]

prob trinks, weps and then w/e

[safe pelican]

When season start ?

And how long is the 90 grind lol

[hybrid sapphire]

took me less than a week

[safe pelican]

Nvm forgot i put it in here

[spring bough]

march 17. prob like an hour a level first time thru

[safe pelican]

Ppreciate you twin

Gotta buy a new mouse next Friday get that 90 going over the weekend

[spring bough]

how many charges of survival do hunts have now.....

feel like its up every 20 seconds

[hybrid sapphire]

is the new epic bg live?\

or not yet

[spring bough]

Yeah and it’s chaos

[potent pivot]

there's a new leveling method

but it requires a group

who was the one with multiple accounts they use for themselves

[gusty hedge]

the ring?

[potent pivot]

@molten hedge ?

[potent pivot]

ya

apparently the calamity delve is good too

[gusty hedge]

got 2 80s waiting there for when i log on already
someone already posted on forum as an exploit to get blizzard to nerf it

[molten hedge]

Huh?

Oh

[potent pivot]

r u the one with multi accs

[molten hedge]

Yeah but I was only doing shadow guard I’m not aware of a diff one

[potent pivot]

this new thing isn't a delve at all

[molten hedge]

There was a rly good hyperspawn near black rock Mtn but you’d have to be doing the campaign so kinda defeats the purpose

[potent pivot]

https://www.twitch.tv/zorthas/clip/FairJazzyKimchiRaccAttack-P0ZkAdKLCutF0llu

[molten hedge]

I haven’t tried that one

I will though

[potent pivot]

this one is from a side quest

[molten hedge]

Cool

[potent pivot]

you just never turn in the quest

[molten hedge]

Ouu

[potent pivot]

looks like 1.5m/hr

[molten hedge]

I did 0 side quests so that’s good

[potent pivot]

yee

just sucks for most ppl cuz u need group

[molten hedge]

Like a 5 man

Or is 3 about

Enough*

[sharp sierra]

i have 3 pcs what is it

[potent pivot]

you need to be converted into a raid i think, and i think 5 man for the most spawns? i'm not 100% sure

[molten hedge]

My friend got hit for 200k with one of the 189 rings you get but it was upgraded

[potent pivot]

i just first saw it a moment ago

[potent pivot]

huhh

number of PCs isn't a factor

[potent pivot]

wut

[molten hedge]

Ya it was OCD so I believe him

It’s proc

[potent pivot]

i don't even know what u mean

[molten hedge]

There’s a PvE ring that procs somethin

[potent pivot]

also, looks like this guy's group is 4man

[molten hedge]

Yeah it was a random comment lol

Yeahhh

I have the ring in all 3 of my alts idr what it’s called but I’ll check when I get home

Wife demanded I go get something sweet from the store 😂

[hybrid sapphire]

holy shit literally 90% of my BGs are this one

why tf

[snow harness]

off topic but how do you get your dots to show up above enemy head? i assume theres a standard blizz ui thing for that right

[potent pivot]

that should be on by default lol

[snow harness]

yea im on my sp atm and i cant see my dots above their head its very weird

all i have is minicc addon really for pvp, so idk if anything is interfering with it or anything

works just fine on monsters

[potent pivot]

idk why it wouldn't work on players if its working on mobs

[snow harness]

found it, needed to have debuffs ticked on enemy plates

[potent pivot]

maybe one of my addons turned it on for me, no idea

mine have just been on

[potent pivot]

this fuck is exploiting

[outer sky]

git gud

[potent pivot]

knowing u its prolly u

[outer sky]

I really wish It was lmfao

[sharp sierra]

@gusty hedge I figured out why I couldn’t see the elite icon lmao. Went into a cvar browser and ended up finding out (I’m assuming) when I loaded your profile it turned off the cvar for elites and didn’t turn it back on. Turned it back on then went into the actual wow settings and turned on elite icon and worked lmao

[potent pivot]

that dog shit kills people in 1 server tick without breaking the druid's stealth

its very pussy behavior

[sharp sierra]

Lmaoooo

[outer sky]

Sounds like a skill issue

[potent pivot]

idiot

[spring bough]

Just two pieces to go then rogue and DH ready for season start

Question is do I get a third class ready….

[potent pivot]

third??

need like 5 minimum

[spring bough]

I’m thinking demo lock

[sharp sierra]

TWW ensembles are up at dorno vendors for anyone that never got them

[stoic spruce]

Dude just wall

[sharp sierra]

I hope they buff the hell out of affliction I’d love to play that

[spring bough]

Bro can’t PvP

[potent pivot]

[hybrid sapphire]

WPVP in the void zone is actually fun af

[outer sky]

I've been at this for 3 days

still level 85

i cant stand it man

[hybrid sapphire]

baba wdym

[outer sky]

Leveling

my 2nd toon

its miserable

[hybrid sapphire]

ik but are you just doing the campaign?

[outer sky]

I powered through the 1st one

[outer sky]

No Im following the Azeroth Pilot addon's speedrun route

[spring bough]

Just sit in silver moon and que dungeons lol

[outer sky]

Boring

[spring bough]

One of the fastest ways watch a show lol

[outer sky]

I dont really have any streaming services or cable

[hybrid sapphire]

youtube

LOL no thanks wtf is this

[snow harness]

disc priest doin more dmg then dps

[hybrid sapphire]

i was WPVP a holy priest earlier and she almost 3 shot me...

[outer sky]

Queued a random BG and got Seething Shore, and Mathias Shaw is doing his standard dialogue "could use another rogue or two...." but more than half the group are rogues

[hybrid sapphire]

still not wrong

[snow harness]

rogue/priest is gonna be crazy in 2s

i bet rogue/rogue will even be good LOL

[outer sky]

Nothing will ever match double sub rogue in s1 shadowlands

could 100-0 somebody in a duel

so youd just take turns dueling

one for trinket

one to kill

[snow harness]

i miss start of slands man, no1 knew what mind games did etc

so fun

apparently now with removal of WAs no1 kills psyfiend anymore lol a priest was saying

[stoic spruce]

Crazy how that all works out

[snow harness]

i want them to buff mindgames

its such a fun and cool ability

[outer sky]

I think people just dont see it. Not because they need a weakaura but I cant even remember seeing a nameplate for it

[snow harness]

i had a weakaura from vanguards that would pop up in big letters "PSYFIEND" whenver it came out so could insta kill it, without a notifier its kind of hard to see, and no nameplate for it unless you have "minor" checked on settings i think

[outer sky]

I was top damage in a BG as a sub rogue

[grave basin]

Did a skirm at 87 and it lasted almost 7mins

Healers are too strong

[hot veldt]

why do sub rogues take offhand sword instead of dagger? can you still use all ur abilities? is it better?

[outer sky]

They don't

and they definitely shouldnt

[hot veldt]

says to on icyveins

[outer sky]

thats written by a mistweaver monk whos got no idea whats going on

[hybrid sapphire]

lol i got fully honor geared in a single day 💪

forgot wintergrasp has that seasonal 1k honor quest

[inner tartan]

healer writing rogue quides or lord what time did i return 2

[molten hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-maniacal-laugh-creepy-laugh-laughing-gif-4498774

[proven field]

at this point fear is just a stun that makes you run away from your target

that shit doesnt break for anything

[potent pivot]

I’m dyin lmao

[potent pivot]

this new leveling method is chill af

@outer sky

[outer sky]

Which one?

the group one?

[potent pivot]

yeah

[outer sky]

idk if I have anyone to do it with

[potent pivot]

there's shit loads of ppl in lfg

[outer sky]

how long does it take?

[potent pivot]

https://www.wowhead.com/quest=90620/to-the-ring

go do all the side quests that lead up to this one

DO NOT complete the "to the ring" one

[outer sky]

do you have to be level 83 to do it?

[potent pivot]

no

[outer sky]

you say it takes about 2 hours to do 80-90?

[potent pivot]

fuck no lol

never said that

[outer sky]

longer?

[potent pivot]

duh

[outer sky]

how long

[potent pivot]

idk

its 1-1.5m/hr

u legit just stand there and spam aoe every lil while

takes like 10min of quick sidequests to set up

[true warren]

why do pvp world quests not give honor? what's the point in doing them

[potent pivot]

they will give bloody tokens or wpvp gear when season starts

[potent pivot]

@outer sky

[outer sky]

wtf

ok yeah im doing that for all my alts

[potent pivot]

im just sitting here spamming

rupture->gar->CT>CT>CT>CT>CT

can prolly just spam fok nonstop

it all dies fast regardless

[outer sky]

that may be the new speed leveling spot

for 80-90

[potent pivot]

naw

its gonna get nerfed

[latent patrol]

not soon enough to stop me from abusing it

[potent pivot]

better do it while we got it

[outer sky]

why would they nerf this but not the other speed leveling zones weve had in the past like siren isle?

[potent pivot]

because this is an exploit

[outer sky]

well shit then can I get banned doing it?

[potent pivot]

doubtful

[potent pivot]

this is also a decent lil gold farm, learn tailoring before u start

[inner tartan]

people do weird stuff when u gank then 2 many times this guy managed 2 get on his mount cuz i was slacling xd he flew way up in the sky then comminted sucide by dismount and then logged of

i thought it was pretty funy

[next ocean]

i have my rogue 90 and try to lvl a dk with that linked quest but i dont see the start of that questchain

[potent pivot]

have u done the campaign

[next ocean]

yes finished yesterday

[potent pivot]

the quest chain is in Harandar

[next ocean]

and i talked to the skip npc guy but i think the alt skip didnt work correctly for me hmm need to check

[potent pivot]

Make sure you’re looking at the quest list on the right side of the wowhead page

Have to start the quest line with the first one on the list

“Be grudge you” or w/e

It’s in the southeastern part of Harandar, near the delve

[next ocean]

ye i was there but i dont see any quest 😄 but whatever doing something on rogue now

[outer sky]

Can you do it on an alt you've skipped the campaign on?

[potent pivot]

Yes lol

It’s a side quest

[outer sky]

Alright I will spam level all my alts with this method later today

[potent pivot]

It’s still around a 4-5hr thing

But even with 0% bonus I’m getting a level every 30min

That would be 5hr

So any bonus makes it less etc

As long as ur group does it correctly

Everyone needs a diff amount of the buff the quest gives

[outer sky]

I have 1 90 and 1 level 88. I just logged off but ill quest for another half level on my level 88 later this morning and then turn my delve quests in to hit 90. That should give me a 10% xp boost for whatever i level next

[potent pivot]

with a 25% bonus it'd be a 4hr thing

[outer sky]

Yeah rip the DMF

Now should I level a 3rd rogue or should I level my hunter? Or maybe my Monk?

[next ocean]

hunter and monk

[outer sky]

I cant do both

[next ocean]

hunter

do low lvl people count for spark of war quest?

[outer sky]

I think so. As long as you get honor for killing them then they should count

[next ocean]

only find grey low lvl :c

[sharp sierra]

Caster

[outer sky]

The only caster i will ever play is devoker

[sharp sierra]

Can’t wait to press seed of corruption 500x

[outer sky]

And that will be the last alt I level

[potent pivot]

whatever u do, make sure ur using an aoe build that can hit more than 5 targets

[sharp sierra]

Lmao I usually alt mage but this is the first expac I can’t stand any of the specs

Ngl you should try mage as a rogue player

[outer sky]

When I started WoW I started on Demo Lock. Then I swapped to Spriest in Wrath. Then I dropped casters all together and rerolled rogue in Legion

Now im team melee all day long

Specifically sneaky yellow melee

[potent pivot]

idk how anyone can play a fuckin turret

[next ocean]

hows assa atm in pvp? only played sub so far and for 1v1 against other rogues im missing a dot :c