pvp

[outer sky]

Did you try it on a real player in pvp and not a dummy?

[snow harness]

its an example of a combo, you dont have to do it

but nahj uses it alot

ss into kidney is common

and if they use something on you to stop you, you just wait

lol

[pastel burrow]

im not saying it's a good combo

[outer sky]

I would love to hear Nahj's input on this

[sharp sierra]

okay but fr why did a firework go off when he died

[pastel burrow]

im not even saying its a combo anyone should do

[potent pivot]

he prolly has a toy or something on idk

[pastel burrow]

but technically speaking he is right

you dont need blades for it

[snow harness]

mb trickz, i thought you wanted to ssqueeze finishers into dance window i thought doing dance kidney did something with a modifier or something, but you dont have to dance kidney

you can kidney > dance, either or wont matter with this combo

its a nice combo to do without blades, and with blades its garunteed death

im gonan test it once im 90, but i just tested it now combo point wise and theres no scuff

[outer sky]

@potent pivot in real games do you see Nahj just opening from stealth with shadowstrike on a non CCd target?

I cannot imagine he does that

[potent pivot]

how can you say this when you haven't tested it

most openings now are going to be with cheap

[outer sky]

Ofc

[snow harness]

lol

[outer sky]

Im playing against worse players than Nahj is playing against and I get insta CCd if I open like that

Like

Rogues

[snow harness]

zicore, it doesnt matter if they stop your opener

[outer sky]

We get a Iot of value out of good openers

[snow harness]

if you dont have cross your not gonna go anyway

you can do your opener regardless

your ssing from stealth to get full combo points

for ur kidney

[outer sky]

I think this is completely insane

[snow harness]

whether they micro you as you do it doesnt matter

your going to kidney them once u get the chance

[outer sky]

Of course it matters

[snow harness]

and do ur combo

the ss into kidney is more of a 2s thing

but u can still do it in 3s

[outer sky]

Your opener is when you have the healer sapped, your teammate can CC the off target

[snow harness]

yep

[outer sky]

You 100% do NOT give the enemy team the opener

[sharp sierra]

I see a toy you can put on players after death but not anything different for when you do. lol I’m gonna go down the rabbit hole tomorrow and look for it

[outer sky]

This is the most troll thing ive heard since Mewo said he couldnt identity the color red

[snow harness]

if ss into kidney is frying ur brain idk man

theres other ways u can set up the combo

that was just one of them

[outer sky]

Find me one high rated rogue that agrees with this

[snow harness]

as i said nahj uses it alot

[outer sky]

No the fuck he doesnt

[snow harness]

it used to be MFD kidney but they removed it

yea he does

lol

there are many ways to set up in the opener in 3s

as rmp

[outer sky]

The enemy team is literally spamming their arena macro to CC you on your opener

[snow harness]

most times your sapping healer and ur mage is db sheeping off target, while you triple cheaped the KT, but theres other variations to it just depends

yea im not advising you to open with ss kidney at the start of your 3v3 game

[outer sky]

You know how much effort other teams put into trying to pull you out of stealth at the start

[snow harness]

that wasnt my point lol

[outer sky]

Your strat does it for them

[sharp sierra]

Okay woah he did have some kind of point there 😭😭😭😭😭

[snow harness]

you dont have to do it in the opener

you can still open with cheap

its just a combo u can do at any time

when u have gore up is all

and u dont need dance for it, which is nice

[outer sky]

?????

[snow harness]

sorry

u dont need blades*

like lets say u do ur standard opener where u get cross and ur cheap shotting kill target and u get a button or two, a trinket w.e, next time u have stun dr you can get a dirty kidney gore maw combo

[sharp sierra]

I think when you get max level you should try it and show us cause in reality it just doesn’t really seem like it’ll work out any better than what we currently run

[outer sky]

But if youre not doing it in the opener, then why do you need the shadowstrike to precede the kidney? You could get combo points for a kidney any way and it would be the same thing

[snow harness]

kidney > SS > evis > Gore > tech, will be a bis combo and im calling it now, as a pioneer of rogue technology

[outer sky]

Strike > kidney only makes sense coming from stealth because premed will give you max combo points

[snow harness]

yea thats the point of doing it zicore

but once ur in the game and uve opened already it wont matter

u just get max combo pts for kidney and u dance

[outer sky]

??

[outer sky]

??

[outer sky]

??

No its not

What you said would only work if youre coming from stealth

Which is trolling

[snow harness]

your misunderstanding, im saying this combo doesnt have to be done in the opener, or you can with ss from stealth into kidney

its not trolling, but depending what comp ur versing theres better ways to open forsure

my point is that, its a good combo to do

kidney > SS > evis > Gore > tech, trust in it

abide by it.

[sharp sierra]

I’m confused why we would ss into a kidney

[outer sky]

You wouldn't

[snow harness]

max combo points with premed

[outer sky]

Ignore that

[snow harness]

only other way is to cheapshot to get max combo but now youve put them on stun dr

[outer sky]

He's saying this combo he hasn't even tried is so good that its worth giving the enemy team the opener to try and pull it off

[snow harness]

ss into kidney is more common then u think from stealth, more of a 2s thing, but vs alot of melee cleaves u can still do it

i have tried it, ive done it many times actually lol

just without gore, but gore is nice for the macabre

[outer sky]

You dont have any real rating

Ofc you can do it

These players dont have their monitors on

[snow harness]

zicore, its not that deep bro, its just a cool combo where gore adds more macabre damage within your stun window

[sharp sierra]

Wouldn’t I just kidney healer to start my go by generating it with back stab/fan normally then proceed with my go

Feels like if I open with ss > kidney I’d be wasting a dance

[outer sky]

You didnt even know that until 20 minutes ago when I told you

[snow harness]

im familair with macabre i just didnt know it was one of our talents

[outer sky]

Is this how Trickz feels all the time??

[snow harness]

i know what it does though lol

[sharp sierra]

Oh but he’s talking about lash damage from using kidney

[outer sky]

My god

[sharp sierra]

Wait but no that wouldn’t make sense because he’s pressing after kidney

[snow harness]

no trickz was chillen, your genuinely hurt for some reason lol

its not that deep my guy

[sharp sierra]

Man my head hurts goodnight

[snow harness]

yea its about the extra lash damage

and i think gore does decent dmg to

[outer sky]

Apparently you didnt know how it worked

[sharp sierra]

If anybody knows why this guy threw up fire works please let me know I’m going to bed

[snow harness]

but why are you frustrated?

it's just a cool combo you can do without blades

no1s forcing you

[outer sky]

Im frustrated because some people may come in here looking for advice, read this, and think its good

When its not

[snow harness]

it is good.

[outer sky]

How would you know

[snow harness]

it's big damage outside of blades

[outer sky]

You havent tried it at max level

And its not worth losing your opener for

[snow harness]

bro? these are basic rogue combos tf

lmfao

wdym how would i nkow

[outer sky]

But you havent seen the output

[snow harness]

i dont need to, im reading the talents

[outer sky]

In this current configuration

You still need to see how it actually hits.

[snow harness]

your either Kidney > SS > Evis > Gore > Tech. or your Kidney > SS > Evis > SS > Tech

[outer sky]

Im sorry I insulted your rating I didnt mean to get you butt hurt

[outer sky]

This ends with the SS most games

[snow harness]

im not hurt though i dont care lol

[outer sky]

You dont do anything else

Because you're in CC taking the enemy teams go

[snow harness]

im jut explaining the combo variations to you

no, im not talking about opening with ss kidny here

im saying after you've already opened and your in the game

and you've racked up combo points and their off dr

[outer sky]

Then whats the strike for?

[snow harness]

to get combo points for evis?

[outer sky]

You already have combo points

[snow harness]

no you're kidneying to spend ur points

[outer sky]

The one before the kidney

[snow harness]

kidney is the opener here

[outer sky]

Why is tha t mandatory

[snow harness]

your not ssing from stealth

its not mandatory dawg, its a freakign combo lol

my goodness

Kidney > SS > Evis > Gore > Tech. or your Kidney > SS > Evis > SS > Tech are the two combo variations

[outer sky]

So by shadowstrike you meant "get 5 combo points somehow"?

Ah its changed

[snow harness]

your building to spend.

yea its a variation

[outer sky]

I see lol

[snow harness]

you can ss from stealth if you want in the opener

but like you said you can get stopped

so im not talking about openers anymore, im just talking about combos in general

once their off stun dr

do you see now? lol

[outer sky]

You can also type /afk during the game

You can do a lot of things

[snow harness]

your like talking to a brick wall man, all good lol im off to bed gnight dude

[outer sky]

Thank god

[snow harness]

but sec, just before i go i want to hopefully explain my point in simplest terms i can, Kidney > SS > Evis > Gore > Tech. or your Kidney > SS > Evis > SS > Tech <------ these are the two variations of combo with kidney, its a standard build/spend combo, the point im making of why gore is good here is because A) your getting extra macabre damage which is noticable and better then the combo without it (this isnt factoring in gore verses SS damage yet. and B) you can do this combo without blades while still getting full combo points each builder. hope this makes sense, i genuinely didnt mean to upset you and not sure why you got heated and started bringing up rating and attacking me lol. okay goodnight

[outer sky]

And this is from someone who didnt know how macabre works, couldnt find find weakness in the talent tree, and suggested a rotation earlier that didnt even apply fazed to the target. Just in case anyone sees this

[snow harness]

again, throwing insults instead of accepting the logic behind my point in why the combo is good lol

[outer sky]

Those arent insults

Those are just things you did

If youre insulted by them

[snow harness]

im making a point and your ingoring it by trying to throw shade at me

[outer sky]

Dont do them

[snow harness]

cognitive dissonance is real with you lol

[outer sky]

You also changed it again

[snow harness]

what did i change?

[outer sky]

Now the kidney is before the ss

[snow harness]

scroll up

are you not even reading what im typing?

lol

you can do it either way its up to you, theres multiple variations of how you can do it

[outer sky]

Yes I am

[snow harness]

the point that im making, and i'll say it again, is that the gore combo is good due to extra macabre, and being able to get full combo from spenders W/O blades

yes that is a variation of how you can do it ^, but its not set in stone, as i've said four times now.

from builders*

[outer sky]

We've already said goremaw is good and cited lash as a reason why. We just dont necessarily think its as good as the other options

[snow harness]

thats fine

im not forcing you to think its as good as other options, i dont care lol, if you cant see the value in having a big go without blades every 45 sec then idk what to tell you, there was no reason to get all worked up and bring up rating and cry about it lol

[outer sky]

You said "you've done it" but with your xp that means nothing

That was my point

And its valid

[snow harness]

you don't know what my xp is, and we werent talking about executing a goremaw combo in 3k rating my guy, its not that deep lol

chill ur little ego a bit

[outer sky]

Just because youre defensive about it doesnt mean im crying about it thats almost as dumb as the rotation youre suggesting

[outer sky]

You said your only glad was shadowlands s2

So that tells me your xp

[snow harness]

you are crying, you went full on rage and projection mode

and your brain melted from SS into kidney from stealth LOL

[outer sky]

If thats how you want to cope I wont try and stop you

[snow harness]

you're right, you wont. Goodnight zicore

[jolly sierra]

the heck

[outer sky]

Spam troll nothing to worry about

Trickz almost muted him when he showed up

[jolly sierra]

kk, all good

[snow harness]

he has a rank in the discord so him flaming me is okay, but when i call him out on it im the villian lol

[jolly sierra]

i believe in him more ngl

[outer sky]

What happened to "goodnight"?

[snow harness]

it all started cause i was explaining a simple kidney combo and he got mad, idk why

[jolly sierra]

i know him

so

[snow harness]

decided to stay up

for a bit

[snow harness]

scroll up and read the chat bro lol, i was trying to show value in goremaw being good in a stun combo due to dance macabre ramp up

[outer sky]

Which we already said had some truth to it

[snow harness]

and i was explaining how one way you can execute it is from shadowstriking from stealth to get pre-med kidney points and he got gneuinely angry at me lol

[jolly sierra]

ye i read and believe on him

[snow harness]

okay thats all my point was dawg, its a good combo

[jolly sierra]

cuz i know him

so

[snow harness]

okay idc either way

lol

[outer sky]

You should go to bed afterall, youre delirious

[snow harness]

its nice becus u can do big damage outsside of blades on a 45 sec window

[outer sky]

We know

[snow harness]

why are you angry at me zicore

i dont get it

like where did the emotion come in

[outer sky]

Im not man im worried about you

[snow harness]

i was cool with you

and we were chillen

[outer sky]

You clearly havent slept in a while

Need some rest

[snow harness]

your worried about me

that sounds like the most gaslighting thing a person can say after flaming me lol

[outer sky]

Sleep deprivation is real

[snow harness]

eh not really

havnt even been up that long

[jolly sierra]

its over, goodnight

[snow harness]

mage, if you knew how little i valued your opinion on the matter you wouldnt have even attempted to get involved and pick a side lol

[outer sky]

You valued it enough to type that

[snow harness]

true

[outer sky]

Thats validating

[snow harness]

u got me

zicore, just out of couriosty since rating on wow matters to you, what is your rating?

on rogue that is

[outer sky]

Ive only played rogue since legion

[snow harness]

so whats your xp

[outer sky]

Glad every season this xpac

[snow harness]

like rating wise tho

multi glad is good tho, im not claiming ur bad, i was jw

if ur like a top ladder 3k kinda guy, or like a 2500-2600 etc

[outer sky]

Rating value depends on inflation

[snow harness]

ik i was jw ur peak xp on rogue

[outer sky]

People almost hit 4k in SL s2

I think there were people at like 3.8k

In 3s

Cuz shuffle wasnt a thing yet

[snow harness]

yea sl s2 i was top 100 in 3s when i got my glad, i got it at very start of season and was the only time i actively tried to get it

ill prob try in midnight though cus i like this xpac

im gonna goremaw u and show u the power

[outer sky]

Looking forward to it

[snow harness]

it surpised me that u never heard of SS into kidney though

[outer sky]

Yeah well life is full of surprises ya know

[snow harness]

I'm glad you see my point though about why the combo is good and the value in being able to execute high damage within a stun window oustide of blades

regardless of what you think of me, im glad the logic resonated with you

[outer sky]

Sure did bud

[stoic spruce]

I lol'd outloud

[outer sky]

Being a spectator to this kinda shit is always fun lol

There was one that blew up in the hunter discord last year

Went on for like 5 fucking hours

Hilarious

[stoic spruce]

That's amazing

Wish I was there

I think everyone wishes they could execute high damage in a stun window outside their CDs

I know I sure do lol

[outer sky]

Dont you only play outlaw?

Id settle for outlaw being able to execute high damage AT ALL

Ive heard in pve its not too bad

But the few times ive queued into an outlaw in pvp ive never been less scared

[potent pivot]

guess you never ran into poopoo

[outer sky]

Oh yeah that guy's gunna fuck me up

Wtf

"Mature language"?

[stoic spruce]

No

Well rogue spec yes

I play other classes

[outer sky]

Thats what I meant

[stoic spruce]

Then yes

[outer sky]

Yeah that spec needs a big buff

[potent pivot]

ya lol thats why his name is Popo instead

[stoic spruce]

I've deduced Trickz doesn't play on my realm

[outer sky]

My 2 year old daughter says that lol

[stoic spruce]

As I have already taken Popo

[potent pivot]

wat

[stoic spruce]

What

[stoic spruce]

Your 2 yo calls me Popo?

Is she like

Benevolent?

[outer sky]

Nah she just says that a lot lol

[stoic spruce]

Well

Maybe it's time you open up to the possibility that your child has other worldy powers

Possibly at a level we can't comprehend

Js

[static holly]

Any easy way to level up alts?

[grave basin]

look at all the material i have to read through

[static holly]

Yeah I saw the pins but I said easy 🤣

Thought something like just runs delves ?!

[grave basin]

on the plus side

i love it when rogues leave a gap on their opener on my hunter

im just spamming scatter last expac

in camo

[potent pivot]

its pretty ez

once u do it once should have it down for subsequent rly

if the proper shadowguard delve rotation is up u can just spam the first few packs in it

thats prolly the easiest brain off way

[static holly]

I will try it. At least 81 was easy brian off

Will try to follow the notes later when I may get time

[grave basin]

my lizard brain needs shiny

70 dollars fuck me

[jolly sierra]

$70 for that fr?

dude for like $30 in DF they gave you a madoka magica xmog + a dark fox mount

[grave basin]

3rd 90 done

[spring bough]

I got plans to get my rogue done later can’t wait

[grave basin]

Dad gaming

Today was my last day of work for 2 weeks

Need to get an elemental pet but all the rares are perma killed so i cant even get the tome

[stoic spruce]

I know the feeling. I'm off for a week at a time

It's awesome

[grave basin]

Time to spam kill bots for 20 hours...

[dark kernel]

You and me both friend. I'm halfway finished with honor gearing on my main

[dark kernel]

I'm pacing out about four and a half hours for a full gear

If I could stay way focused I would be doing a lot better

[grave basin]

Cant tell if thats motivating or not

[gleaming sentinel]

i got mythics to clear then i suppose its alt time, thinking demo tbh

[grave basin]

https://youtube.com/shorts/CTHO6EsZ44g?si=nzOyILQnlcL1eFb4

[atomic loom]

anyone have sub rogue pvp talents they could share

[potent pivot]

Pins

[dark kernel]

I'll take a look at this

[grave basin]

I did it world quests on dk and it took like 30mins ish

Way too long

[dark moon]

what are you using for DR trackers?

also, just started pvp-ing as i digned 90 a day ago

do you guys run subterfuge or just have a cancelaura to insta dance out of the opener, cause it doesnt allow me to dance while having subterfuge buff and its annoying

[molten hedge]

Hey man I was just in a skirmish and kidneyed someone for 13 seconds. When did it change @potent pivot

[potent pivot]

Put a cancel aura for subt on your dance

[potent pivot]

[potent pivot]

Idk if I’ve even run into this though

[molten hedge]

Yeah idr that happening either

[potent pivot]

Idr ever having that issue

[molten hedge]

Someone mentioned dancing in stealth yday and I’ve also never been able to do that

[dark kernel]

I feel like some people have this issue I never did. But you can add a cancel aura if you want.

[potent pivot]

Yea that was odd

[molten hedge]

Fr

[spring bough]

Delete this before blizz sees it

[dark kernel]

13 second kidney.....WoD combat is back

[molten hedge]

Lmaooo

[dark kernel]

That was an actual wild time that happened

[proven field]

Supercharged KS doing it?

[gusty hedge]

i got this soon as it dropped ngl😭 such an impulse buy fr

[spring bough]

That would be absolutely hilarious

[grave basin]

Can you show the flying animation

[gusty hedge]

ill try to clip a vid rq😂

newkeyboard feels off gotta get used to it

[grave basin]

Wtf

Thats so cool

[proven field]

I got a new mouse that is only 8 grams heavier than the old one, but it feels like I am playing with a cinder block

[grave basin]

Ofc all the unique skeletons are thrown on the cash shop

[gusty hedge]

it is ngl

[grave basin]

gonna be a basic bitch and buy it when i get home

Need to mog the manaforge omega boostees

[gusty hedge]

i had g512 carbon logitech since like 2019 the d key kept going in and out and i got tired of it lastnight , this new one rog strix scope II 96 is smaller and keys are a bit closer together feels like im gonna be hitting other keys trying to play now

[grave basin]

Havent changed out of razer naga for probably 8 years now

Goated 12b mouse

[stoic spruce]

Some king shit right there

[gusty hedge]

my shit went out like a year or two after i got it same time i got the carbon keyboard left click kept double clicking then eventually just stopped working. i was so upset xD mouse was almost 200$ lol i stay using 12b reddragon mouse now its cheap but its been nice

[grave basin]

As long as it has 12b imo

[gusty hedge]

i only use like 3 buttons off it ngl

[stoic spruce]

I used a Chinese 12b mouse for years

[dark kernel]

Whoa the hell is that

[stoic spruce]

The box it came in didn't have a single English word

[proven field]

Yeah this mouse, the wheel press-down (my trinket) is like... maybe 2 MM deeper than my old mouse but it's like instant panic "WHY ISNT TRINKET WORKIN... oh ok got it"

[stoic spruce]

Had like, really crappy fire PNGs too

It was awesome

[dark kernel]

Oh wtf

That was the sauirrel

[stoic spruce]

I love cheap Amazon PC stuff

My keyboard is one

[gusty hedge]

new store mount

[gusty hedge]

😂 i had to unbind mouse wheel cuz i kept hitting it by accident

[dark kernel]

Yeah I scrolled up lmao. The way the mount flew I thought it was some...like weird void worm at first

[proven field]

the way it flies is exactly how I fly into bed when my wife texts me she's "cold"

https://klipy.com/gifs/flying-squirrel-the-cutest-flying-rodent

actually anyone need 9 button mouse (happy middle ground for me), it's on clearance: https://steelseries.com/gaming-mice/rival-5

[potent pivot]

i'd consider this a 5 button mouse tbh

[proven field]

5 is what, top buttons, mouse wheel and 2 side buttons? (fwd and back)

this has... lemme look at it

[potent pivot]

the side buttons

[proven field]

4 on the side, but two are paddles up/down

[potent pivot]

oh, ew

[proven field]

its not good to replace MMO mouse, but it's good to make kb/m combos easier

I used to do a lot of shift+mouse4&5, ctrl+mouse4+5 etc

[potent pivot]

i might try to steelseries aerox 9

their mmo mouse

89g isn't terrible for a 12button

[potent pivot]

the mtx is really getting out of hand man

$50 for 4 recolors of 1 mount, $40 for 4 recolors of the same mog

[gusty hedge]

it really is! becoming like these mobile games i quit😭 im a sucker for mogs and mounts, blizz has me in the palm of their hand😭

10 -15$ is ok but 30 and 40 is pushing it now

[potent pivot]

yeah i honestly wouldn't care as much if they were reasonably priced

btw i think everyone might want to check this out

https://x.com/EllesmereGaming/status/2029658921082790252

Ellesmere (@EllesmereGaming)

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X · Mar 5, 2026, 8:42 PM

it's a full UI suite, completely free

it's made by a pve player with a pve focus, but it looks insanely well polished

surely there's some features on it we can use for pvp

it even makes edit mode look way better

[molten hedge]

Does it add more functionality or just look purdy

[potent pivot]

wdym

it adds a shitload of customizability all in one addon instead of using 20 different shits

[molten hedge]

I’m not arguing just asking 🙂 what kinda addons will it replace

[spring bough]

Having one of those days I’m about to just pack up and leave work to level my rogue 😂

And do some “work from home” lmao

[spring bough]

This is amazing might DL it lol

[potent pivot]

ye i just didn't know what you meant by adding functionality

like adding functionality compared to base settings, other addons, etc

it looks like it'd replace any frame/nameplate/CDM/actionbar addons, etcetc

[spring bough]

Nameplates on that addon look like platys options

[molten hedge]

I wonder if having BBF/bbp will mess with it

[potent pivot]

it basically seems like it's going to be a much lighter weight spin on ElvUI, much more focused on optimized performance etc

[molten hedge]

That’s cool

[potent pivot]

you can turn the nameplate portion off

[spring bough]

Looks like you can recolor resource bars too

[potent pivot]

and still use bbp

[spring bough]

The CDM manager looks like betterCDM too. Definitely giving this a try later

[molten hedge]

True

That’s one thing I don’t like about platy

[potent pivot]

it just looks way easier to digest to me so far than the settings of all these new addons..

[molten hedge]

You can’t put sap on nameplates

[potent pivot]

like

[molten hedge]

Awesome

[potent pivot]

i can't stand having to go to 20 different settings in 5 different ways

to adjust things

[molten hedge]

I feel that

If it has option to put sap on nameplates I’ll try it

I do like platy being so easy for nameplates

[potent pivot]

like to let u know when u can sap?

idk if anything can/or is doing that anymore

[gusty hedge]

YEAH sap icon but lets u know when someone is out of combat

[molten hedge]

Oh I thought I’ve seen it work with BBP

[potent pivot]

yee i wasn't sure if the ability to do that was gone or not

[fathom crag]

has any1 cooked some assa aoe build for pvp?

[molten hedge]

From Nahjs stream the other day

[potent pivot]

i've got one in the pins, there's a couple swaps you can make on it to try something different as well

[potent pivot]

[fathom crag]

tyty

[potent pivot]

CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMzMjZbmBAAAAAwsMjZbGAAAAAQbbjZwMjxMzMzyMLzMYmZmBzYGGDDMwCMjRjZBktBsNjtNgZmBD
this is the other version, still very similar

the one in the pins focuses on energy/ST, this second one has CT/more bleed

[fathom crag]

yea im looking for a full aoe build

[potent pivot]

that'd be the second one then yea

full aoe in arena kinda sucks now as far as i can tell though

[fathom crag]

yea its for blitz

[potent pivot]

but for bg teamfights it seems good

yeye

you could maybe swap dtb row for zoldycks side

haven't tried that yet

[fathom crag]

yea doing it rn

[potent pivot]

just feels kinda ass taking amp when not using it

[molten hedge]

The platy person told me that function was going to be removed like a month ago he thought. So idk lul

[potent pivot]

still could happen ig, all addon stuff has seemed very up in the air since launch

[molten hedge]

For sure. Idk why but my mini cc keeps enabling stuff I’ve disabled and I’ll have like 2 cheap shots etc

[potent pivot]

minicc and mvqui seemed very ... sloppy to me

[molten hedge]

I’ve heard similar about mvqui. I like how MiniCC has a lot of things in one addon similar to that one you linked earlier

I like the vision hopefully it gets cleaned up

[potent pivot]

i think the guy that made it usually makes decent stuff so hopefully

[spring bough]

MiniCC gotta be hands down the best PvP addon right now

F MVQ 😂

[gusty hedge]

YEAH the double icons are throwing me off, wasnt sure which one of the addons were multiplying buffs/debuffs on both sides of plates

[spring bough]

Are you using platy?

I turned off the CC icon in platy and it stopped showing the double for me

[gusty hedge]

yeah i had platy /mvq and mini cc disabled mvq,
ill def have to check options for platy then set up mini cc properly, have everything but platy on default settings

[gusty hedge]

so if i delete the top 3 icons im good to go? dont mess with this stuff often ngl

[spring bough]

I got rid of the CC one on the top right cause I was getting double of those. I haven’t noticed getting double of anything else I will check later when I’m home

[gusty hedge]

okay bet thanks!

[spring bough]

Ima give this an update or two before I try it lol

[potent pivot]

its in beta rn but full releases sometime this week or something

i think its worth trying the full release at least

[spring bough]

Most definitely going to try it

[potent pivot]

it snapshots your editmode when you install it

so you won't lose any major things you've already done

[spring bough]

Gonna have to move my WTF and interface folders out and I’m gonna start fresh and see what I gotta add after that

[potent pivot]

mmost issues ppl are having are caused by other addons

fyi

[spring bough]

When skill capped updated I hit update and it reset my entire edit mode settings and saved profiles 😭

[potent pivot]

l0l

[spring bough]

Had to spend like an hour moving crap around. Not this time lmao

[molten hedge]

I have platy so I think it’s that and MiniCC

[hidden moth]

What’s PvP ilvl on honor gear

Looking for both the pve ilvl and the pvp scaled ilvl

[molten hedge]

Ya I got rid of of the SkillCapped ui it was the only reason I had SC

[gusty hedge]

ilvl 276 atm honorgear

@hidden moth

[spring bough]

I’m kinda realizing…. I don’t even know what it does anymore since I setup all these addon profiles by myself lol

Might have to disable it to see what I’m missing if anything. Gotta optimize these frame rates

[gusty hedge]

one of my biggest dislikes about platy, these brown hp bars in pvp, they override bbp plate colors😭

[dark kernel]

I get double nameplate CC with miniCC and arenacore

[potent pivot]

so change the color?

[dark kernel]

Need to fix it

You know what my actual biggest complaint is. Nameplates do not populate right now across an entire arena map. It seems blizzard killed the distance

[gusty hedge]

dont see an option to change on platy, i've could've overlooked it multiple times but idk

[potent pivot]

my platy is class colors

i'm like 99% sure

[molten hedge]

I wish we still had arena 123 on nameplates 🙁

[potent pivot]

u can

[molten hedge]

Wut

[potent pivot]

u

can

[molten hedge]

W

U

T

How haha

[potent pivot]

One of the pvp addons does it

[molten hedge]

Damn bro

[potent pivot]

Maybe sweepyboop?

[molten hedge]

Idt platy does hmm

[potent pivot]

I can’t fuckin remember lol but I know one of them still does it

[potent pivot]

Platy isn’t a pvp addon

[molten hedge]

Ikr that’s the problem with all this shit lol

Too many addons to remember

[potent pivot]

It’s made by and large for pve

[molten hedge]

Gotcha

It’s v easy to use. But that addon u linked earlier looks like it has platy build in almost

[potent pivot]

Yeah

[spring bough]

Wait u have platy AND bbp??

[gusty hedge]

open world its fine but in bgs hp bar is brown throws me off. legit cant find option to change color 😂

[gusty hedge]

yeah i use both, bbp mainly for friendly teamates to know where they're at with class color + arrow ontop of their name

i could prolly not use platy if i can see cc dr and what skills enemy are using now

bpp

[spring bough]

Might be why ur getting double of things on nameplates

[spring bough]

I use some PvP addon that does the class icons / healer icons on friendly

[potent pivot]

Ah idk

I do remember the color settings being weird af and hard to find

But I didn’t even change them I don’t think? I just imported a pve profile and built on top of it

[potent pivot]

https://wago.io/zaiOOdVa1

That’s the profile I imported

[gusty hedge]

bet Thanks! ill try it out rn

[gusty hedge]

i hope not 😭 gonna test with bbp disabled

[dark moon]

Guys

Real urgent

Dr tracker addon for target and focus frames?

[spring bough]

MidnightDR works well or freshDR

[gusty hedge]

Good Looking

[dark moon]

Sir, your guidance was exquisite and your reasoning splendid; you have my warmest thanks.

[gleaming sentinel]

Wholesomee.

[sharp sierra]

Which addon changes friendly nameplates to just their name but colored I thought it was BBP but I might be mistaken can’t find it anywhere

[lone jasper]

U can do it in bbp and wow settings

[snow harness]

is our standard opener just cheap shot > evis > SS > tech > re-cheap, or do we need to re-stun after SS if fighting orc?

[sharp sierra]

Can you? I swear I’ve been looking in the settings forever

I know you can’t in the wow settings alone lmao

[snow harness]

this setting here to really helps with cleaning up name plates

[outer sky]

The meta changed. We're opening with shadowstrike now

[snow harness]

lmao

i was thinking about that combo lastnight and you actually dont need kidney to do it either, another variation you can do is just cheap > evis > gore > tech, with a re-cheap in there to not gap stun, (depending on if you couped , or if their orc)

[outer sky]

Im just jerkin your chain

To answer your question

Yes if theyre orc you need to restun a global earlier

[snow harness]

yea so itd be after your builder whether ss or gore, which feels bad but has to be done if orc

and if you couped its even worse lol

i gotta get used to coup gcd

i never really played trickster as sub only death stalker

[outer sky]

Yeah thats miserable

The orc racial stun reduction used to not be nerfed from 20% to 10% in pvp and I thought when they did nerf it like that it would matter a whole lot more but it really didnt seem to

As long as they have enough stun reduction to cause you to lose a global

The % doesnt really seem to matter much

Also @snow harness paladins have a talent they often take into rogues that is basically orc racial

Just as a talent

So if youre trying to stun lock a paladin you also need to restun earlier most of the time

[snow harness]

could u send pic of the standard sub talent tree you guys are running

[outer sky]

Pins should be updated

I think Trickz said they were

[gleaming pawn]

yeah Pins are updated

[snow harness]

is it just the code in pvp pinned msg?

[outer sky]

Yeah

[snow harness]

i cant actually see it cus im not 90 yet

like the remaining talents

[outer sky]

Just the apex nodes

[hidden moth]

276 ilvl pvp but what’s the pve ilvl

Like outside pvp combat 200?

230?

[gusty hedge]

217

[hidden moth]

Oh ez

[gusty hedge]

and not upgradeable

[hidden moth]

Just gonna do that instead of “farm renown for all factions for pve gear”

[hidden moth]

Even better

Gearing the same as war within?

Or they change stuff

[snow harness]

you can still upgrade

or do you mean upgrade the pvp lvl?

ahh, honor gear isnt upgradable in pve, but the warmonger stuf is

kind of weird they did it that way

[odd yew]

Any word on sockets and how we get them this expac? they exist in the database but idk how you'd obtain them

[snow harness]

i think its those currencys you buy with 5k honor iirc

[outer sky]

It was self defensei i swear!

[jolly sierra]

happened to me yesterday

a guy in full boost gear attacked me suddenly

and i 1 shotted him XD

[snow harness]

is sin rogue haste too or still mastery? would be nice to be able to sswap between the two with one set of gear

[static holly]

Nope, mastery

But outlaw is haste too

[muted abyss]

what weapon enchant are we running? Icyveins says Worldsoul Tenacity(vers proc), but I'm thinking we should go with Acuity of the ren'dorei(agility proc)?

[muted abyss]

same gear prio for sub and assa

[static holly]

Yes ur right.

[snow harness]

nice kk

mix of haste/mast

i usually use my 9 conq heraldries on jewlery, so i think i'll do 2x hast/vers rings, and 1x mast/vers neck

[waxen meteor]

alright finally lv90

[snow harness]

or 2x mast, 1x haste whatever is better

[static holly]

Cg

[waxen meteor]

what should i do now

[jolly sierra]

when s1 gotta start?

[snow harness]

17th

[muted abyss]

farm gold really, and passively farm honor at the same time to get full honor set

[jolly sierra]

my brother told me to sell shit at day 1 instead now

[jolly sierra]

k ty

[static holly]

Honor grind and voidstorm pvp qs

[snow harness]

like mats and stuff?

[waxen meteor]

how to farm gold..

[jolly sierra]

ye

[snow harness]

good to know, im lelveing my rogue strictly from herb/mining

atm

so maybe ill hold onto it all and sell on 17th

[waxen meteor]

yeah i am doing herb/mining too

haha

[muted abyss]

easiest is to level a druid with herb and mining

[snow harness]

its fast bro

lowkey

ima lvl all my alts like this lol

[muted abyss]

I've made like 500k gold already just with herb/mine

[waxen meteor]

oh i just sidebar doing that

[muted abyss]

and my druid isn't even 90 yet lol

[waxen meteor]

still doing missions

[waxen meteor]

i don't like dungeons

[snow harness]

i use darkmoon water and azeroot tea

its like insta gather

even on orc lol

• deftness greens on proff equip

[muted abyss]

finess is better imo, you get more per gather

[waxen meteor]

but okay... i guess my real questions is do we have honor gear now

or blood coin gear

[muted abyss]

Yes, we have honor gear

[waxen meteor]

or is it still called blood coin

[snow harness]

i got some finesse on my gear but deftness is more important imo

so u can can gather while being atked by mobs

[static holly]

War monger will come with s1

Only honor gear

[muted abyss]

you can already do that as druid no problem, just leash them a bit away and fly back, and use the interact button instead of clicking the herbs, finesse gives more herbs

[snow harness]

im orc

orc rog

so i need the extra deft

[muted abyss]

ah, that's the problem lol

[snow harness]

ye lol

its stil ldecent yield

i proc my finese quite often as it is

alsos, finese only increases yield and not chance of lotus, ive gotten 13 lotuses in 5 lvls basicaly lol

which isnt that great

[muted abyss]

For sure, I usually run enchanter with disenchant spec on my main character and then have a druid for farming herbs/ore

[snow harness]

some guy told me that he leveld 80-90 in 8 hours from gathering

so i decided to try it out myself

[muted abyss]

Eeeeh, it's not thaaat quick

[snow harness]

its prob taking me a bit longer then 8, but its still pretty fast

[muted abyss]

maybe with war mode + a few stacks of the mentor buff

[snow harness]

na man this guy was like a venezulean farmer, he had all the tech lol he gave me like 4 addons

bro has a GPS on his screen

lol

[muted abyss]

Oh, for sure, that's just this meme

[snow harness]

i dont even have dfm buff

cus idk anything about darkmoon fair

i should prob snag it tho

[muted abyss]

yeah, every percentage point is a ton of time saved

horde seem to also get like 25% bonus with war mode, it's been mostly alliance just shitting on horde in the open world

I haven't missed a chest in days

[inner tartan]

outlaw tanky boi

[outer sky]

Of course the ret is top damage

[snow harness]

yea as a horde i never get chest

[outer sky]

Top damage, like 5 lives, better external CDs than most healers

They need to delete that spec i can't take them anymore

[muted abyss]

oh, btw I'd recommend buying weapon enchants right now, before the season starts

[inner tartan]

he was propaly in some mid fight all day long

[outer sky]

Make them eat shit on the 17th

[inner tartan]

tbh i was never near it

was sniping around shrine and farm hole game

[snow harness]

good call

i havnt checked price of em yet

[muted abyss]

they are about 25-35k

they will spike to over 100k ez when the raiders get to em

[snow harness]

someone was saying to sell mats now tho because from now until 17th even prices do spike a bit on 17th it wont be more then what they are noe

[outer sky]

Of course they cant really nerf ret because like 1/3rd of the pvp player base rely on it an it's bloated kit and overtuned damage to reach their seasonal goals

[snow harness]

due to bots farming and just more resources being into the game

whats the best rog wep enchant

[outer sky]

And people would tank like 300+mmr playing anything else

[snow harness]

i might buy a cpl rn

just incase they skyrocket lol

[muted abyss]

I'm pretty sure it's gonna be acuity of the ren'dorei (agi proc)

[outer sky]

Thats 100% the move

They are only gunna go up

[snow harness]

kk, that enchant sounds rlly good on sin rog to

[muted abyss]

cpl?

[snow harness]

i wanna try out sin

[outer sky]

Couple

Probably

[snow harness]

one for each weapon

[muted abyss]

ooh yeah

[snow harness]

i hope sin doesnt run fatebound

[muted abyss]

I just buy 2 for the season, I don't bother swapping out offhand for optimal sub rogue gameplay

[snow harness]

i dont like that hero talent

not fun

[muted abyss]

I'm also not gonna play combat ever lol

even when it was op a few expansions back, it was sooooo boring to play

[snow harness]

how much are the t2 enchants?

prob not eve nworth enchanging honor wep

throw a tww encnahnt on there lol

[muted abyss]

can't

[snow harness]

aw

[muted abyss]

agi proc enchant t2 is about 38k right now

honestly not bad imo

[snow harness]

what is t3?

[muted abyss]

I just bought 2 just to hedge my bets on it spiking with m+ and raiding

no t3

[snow harness]

oh mb

[muted abyss]

just silver and gold now

[snow harness]

i meant t1

what is t1

[muted abyss]

t1 is like 25k

[snow harness]

ahh ye

[muted abyss]

I'd say it's worth spending the extra

imo

[snow harness]

t2 or nothin then lol

i wont enchant my honor

[muted abyss]

for the conquest gear at least

same

[snow harness]

38k so like 72k for 2

kinda hefty

good thing im farming herb lol

[muted abyss]

rush to 1.6k get free weapons and enchant em

I'm just maxing out my disenchanting epics specialization

oh, and run all the mythic 0's you can this week, it's weekly lockout until next next tuesday

17th

[outer sky]

Im considering buying a bunch just to resell them after the season starts

[muted abyss]

That's a bet you will have to make on your own, worst case they keep dropping

[snow harness]

what if pricess go down though, considering more resources coming into the game

[muted abyss]

eeeh, the problem is that making a r2 enchant requires like 2 days of concentration

so the supply is limited artifically

[snow harness]

even if they spec into it?

[muted abyss]

it's not worth enchanting the r1 enchant cause you lose money

[snow harness]

i think u can garuntee r2 if your proper sspec

w/o cons

[muted abyss]

I think yeah you can, but it still costs concentration

[snow harness]

ahh

[muted abyss]

maybe you can take it down to like 1 per day

but even then you are millions of gold into it at that point

[snow harness]

pre sure u can spec into specific stuff where if u have all r2 mats u dont need any cons at all

but u need alot of knowledge points

[muted abyss]

the supply will be limited when people start getting their weapons

[snow harness]

yea i can see that

all the bis stuff is hefty margins

thats the one downside of having a bunch of pvp alts

the money for craftss/enchants lol

i recall it wassnt to bad in the tww tho

the prices

blizzard removed weakauras, but jokes on them i still got my air horn

[waxen meteor]

damn where to farm honor

i feel i am so under geared lol

[muted abyss]

crate farming while leveling in war mode

and then going into void storm into the pvp zone in the north

doing quests there

[jolly sierra]

i got like 3 crates yesterday i am not lying

[muted abyss]

oof, it's rough for the horde rn with crates

[jolly sierra]

just chilled getting herbs and everything appeared in front of me

i was horde and got those crates

[muted abyss]

Get Heated Crate Tracker addon

[potent pivot]

Queue Training ground

[snow harness]

if your horde, gl getting crate

[jolly sierra]

as horde i got 3, i repeat

was yesterday

[muted abyss]

3 crates is nothing imo, I get 4 an hour in just voidstorm

[jolly sierra]

as 80 just doing casual shit it is

tbh

just lose 1

[snow harness]

does darkmoon fair buff increase the xp you get from handing in delve quests?

[muted abyss]

should, yeah

[sharp sierra]

WHERE IS THIS NAME SETTING

[potent pivot]

Platy has the class color names too :d

Just not the icons I think

[molten hedge]

I’m almost 100 in mining and herb, and it’s been pretty lackluster. Farming on 2 accounts. Could just be bc my spec isn’t super filled out

[snow harness]

i wonder if holding off on selling herbs until raid week is the play

cus of consumes

[waxen meteor]

as a horde, autolosing :L:((

[gusty hedge]

IN BBP
also took me a few hours but i found out how to do it in platynator now thanks to trickz i messed around with the import he showed me, now i gotta do my own

[vocal surge]

Season doesn't start till the 17th ish

[sharp sierra]

and this changes it to those plates to just show names?

[snow harness]

i remember reading somewhere in the talents yesterday that your haste increases duration of your shadow dance, but i cant find the talent now

[gusty hedge]

if you have platynator you can do it by this player name only when clicking friendly

[sharp sierra]

no way im this blind

lmao thanks dude

[potent pivot]

Deepening shadows

[muted abyss]

Yeah, they are gonna spike to 100k+ ez

[spring bough]

outlaw leveling time

dungeon / quest spam INC lmao

the update this arena core guy did is actually amazing

[potent pivot]

Show?

[spring bough]

updated a bunch of the settings and the look to it

[spring bough]

settings feeling more user friendly

[severe helm]

Whooooa that looks so good

[potent pivot]

I just don’t like the look of it idk

[spring bough]

as trickz says AI slop

lol

[potent pivot]

Seems like it idk

[potent pivot]

What are the cooldown icons on the enemy frames?

I’m guessing it only shows when the buffs are active

[severe helm]

I have a lot of catching up to do on my pvp UI

Plater just isn't doing it for pvp nameplates unfortunately

[potent pivot]

Have you seen ellesmeres new shit?

[severe helm]

Yeeeee

It's missing a lot though

its so easy to setup

like the best addon ui ive ever used

[potent pivot]

It looks amazing

[severe helm]

but it has some broken stuff

like it doesnt show PS stacks when its tracked as a cooldown

and buffs dont desaturate when not present

little things

im sure he'll fix it

it runs so well too

like insanely smooth

[potent pivot]

Yeah that’s the best part

No noticeable impact to performance is kinda crazy for something that good

[severe helm]

yeah just patiently waiting for some stuff to get addressed then im 100% switching over to it

[spring bough]

yeah thats what it does

[snow harness]

how long is dance with 600 haste

[sharp sierra]

hmmmm

getting there xD

[potent pivot]

~7.3 seconds give or take

[potent pivot]

What are you using rn? A hodgepodge like the rest of us common folk? Or atrocity

[severe helm]

yeaaah

Arc ui, plater, sensei class resource bar, edit mode expanded, dominos

[potent pivot]

I couldn’t stand arc

[severe helm]

its not great

but its the only one that had the functionality I wanted

[potent pivot]

I’m using Platy, cooldown manager centered, sensei

I started with Luxthos imports and customized them

[severe helm]

yeah at this point its like pick your poison

all the addons are broken in some way

and the base ui is broken

so youre just choosing whta type of broken you want

until in like a few months we have actual winners

and we all migrate towards the best addon

[outer sky]

Well yeah

[outer sky]

Of course

Thats the point Mewo

[potent pivot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/226359213427916800/1479359357409034310/image.png?ex=69ac6903&is=69ab1783&hm=50590d68484c6077ee8964706a963c7c255153a094a6735b2e1e991de5d2985c&

[outer sky]

To keep anyone from getting an unfair advantage

Whatever you use is broken

[severe helm]

haha

well the problem is

[outer sky]

So now youre all on the same playing field

[severe helm]

some people are better than others

at making UIs

I have some friends who are fucking loooost

[outer sky]

Yeah so make them all broken

So no matter how good you are you have a broken ui

So its fair

Sounds like you're trying to gain an unfair advantage

Shame

[severe helm]

Oh I def have an unfair advantage

[snow harness]

airhorn op

[severe helm]

I still have WAs

😉

[outer sky]

You demon

[severe helm]

theres a fork

that has been updated

for the new api

anyone who thought this addon change was going to level the playing field is naive

[potent pivot]

You’re evil

Get out

[severe helm]

dont hate the player hate the game

but tbh my UI is still pretty basic, mostly waiting for hte dust to settle to do more advanced stuff

[potent pivot]

All I want rn

Is a way to track shadow tech stacks as a bar

I know it’s possible just not sure how

[severe helm]

WAs struggle with buffs rn unfortunately

blizz has a very poorly exposed aura system atm

not sure what their plan is

[snow harness]

cant you just do this?

[severe helm]

does that show stacks?

or just the buff duration

[outer sky]

I just dont care enough. Tbh blizzards cooldown manager was actually done as well as I needed it to be done. I just use the base UI version with sensei for my combo points and thats really it. And not just on my rogue too, its fine on my hunter too

[snow harness]

no clue

[severe helm]

its not even centered dog

you gotta raise your standards

[outer sky]

I centered it!!!

After the screenshot

[severe helm]

yeah with an addon

[outer sky]

No

With edit mode

[severe helm]

then its not centered

change talents

and tell me its still ccentered

its literally not an option

[sharp sierra]

okay nvm just give me your profile this is pissing me off

[snow harness]

i wish you could split up the icons of your buffs to put them in different areas of your screen

thats the only complaint for cooldown manager i have

[severe helm]

you can with addons

[outer sky]

Fair but thats less of an issue for me than all the broken addons

[snow harness]

which addon?

[severe helm]

a bunch can do it

I think better cdm

or arc ui

[snow harness]

ill grab better cdm

does it just enhance blizzards already built in cdm?

[outer sky]

I tried all of those on beta and they were just pissing me off. Granted I never once tried them sober

[snow harness]

or is it a like an entirely new thing

i want to have cloak and fient / evais etc away from my dance

dance needs to be in its own spot alone lol

[gusty hedge]

im using both bbp and platy so it looks bit different with just bbp. you can adjust the size of name / font to your liking

im on ultra wide monitor so it might deff look diff when u import

[sharp sierra]

im on UW as well lol

i just cant get the names to show

only shows when i click on people

[gusty hedge]

sometimes ugotta turn off all name plates and turn them back on ctrl +V sometimes that happens for me

[outer sky]

Gaming in 2026 btw

[potent pivot]

That’s not what I want no

[snow harness]

this training grounds group is losing against ai lol

[outer sky]

Tbf that ai plays better than most 1800 teams you'll play against in blitz

[snow harness]

yea they got like 400k hp i only got 140

i thought this was free wins

maybe need to be lvl 90 for this to be good

[outer sky]

Probs

[potent pivot]

Ye

Ilvl matters a lot in those as well

The AI are usually tuned pretty high for early season

[outer sky]

Last seasons conquest gear gives you 195k hp in pvp btw

[proven field]

Everyone has a plan until Lok’tar The Redeemer sends them to the phantom zone

[potent pivot]

Haz’waz the toxic gonna fuck you up

[spring bough]

some addon is making my bars unusable lol

randomly cant press and have to reload RIP

[subtle warren]

is the spec the pins for prepatch the same as what we're playing now?

no gouge?

[potent pivot]

Might have been a misclick or something

[subtle warren]

is there anything we need to do at 90 besides honor grind?

Like any rep? or something

[potent pivot]

Nope

[subtle warren]

Lit actually

[potent pivot]

You can go for sparks

It’s not necessary though

[subtle warren]

whats the point of those?

[potent pivot]

You can use them to craft high ilvl pve gear

Can supplement the gearing process

[subtle warren]

how do you get them?

or whats the full name il lgoogle

[potent pivot]

Just google midnight sparks

[subtle warren]

ty

[analog tapir]

like arena as assa feels weird caus ofther DM it feels like there is no damage made xD atleast in 3s

[potent pivot]

It’s harder to play it optimally now than it was

[snow harness]

once you get the darkmoon fair xp buff iss it warbound? or do you have to get it on each toon

[potent pivot]

You have to get it on each

[analog tapir]

So do u think i should reroll sub ? like i dunno what i should do 🤷‍♂️

[proven field]

Just press N and switch lol

[potent pivot]

That’s up to you

[sharp sierra]

imagine being me importing your config and wondering why the fuck i cant see combo point despite enabling the option on enemy plates only to realize im on my dh

[spring bough]

i DL'd ellesmere

pretty good but its buggy. cant get action bars to work pressing buttons its weird cause cursor works but keys dont lol

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

so i have the action bar part disabled rn

[potent pivot]

Did you turn off all order addons

[sharp sierra]

anybody using any combat text addons?

[spring bough]

and the resource/power bar you cant size with the CDM bar