pvp

[open thunder]

It's not on me ok

[spring bough]

🎣

[gilded gulch]

half the 3v3 comps are pve

lets be real

[spring bough]

You should pvp for season 1 of midnight I bet you’d smoke some noobs

[outer sky]

more than that

[gilded gulch]

every meleecleave

every wizard comp

[open thunder]

i dont like pvp

you just get stunned

its boring

this game wasnt made with pvp in mind

also i need to know every spell from every spec in the game

[outer sky]

@molten hedge was playing with a Dev DH last night whos never queued 3s before ever and he just loaded in and one shot Bajheera

[open thunder]

i only play outlaw so

[gilded gulch]

is baj even that good

doesnt he play with 4 pocket heals

perma

[outer sky]

hes good enough to not be getting one shot by a guy with literally 30 minutes of xp

[spring bough]

Only 2 DRs now it’s not as bad anymore

[potent pivot]

just needed a lil fact check, cuz apparently its illegal to listen to me

nbd

zac the homie

big yapper

[outer sky]

well, you pinged him after I said outlaw was meta in DF season 3 and then he showed up to say that yes it was in fact meta in DF s3 so

[open thunder]

[gilded gulch]

sub had just as many seasons

[outer sky]

But not that one

[gilded gulch]

and lets be real second half of bfa outlaw existed

as cc bot for fire

[open thunder]

we are talking about pve noob

why you talking aboutr pvp

in the pvp channel ?

[spring bough]

Was that the embellish fang wep season

[gilded gulch]

yeah you pressed gouge

because mage mains wont kick

[outer sky]

well also it was the only rogue spec with gouge and before disruptive CC was so common. So the outlaw rogue could lock down a mob like that maggot in underrot by itself whereas other classes really couldnt. And if they could, they didnt have shroud which was huge in BFA.

[gilded gulch]

bfa pvp was lol

na rmp too stupid to spite

[quick condor]

they are talking about raids and dungeons and stuff

not pvp

[gilded gulch]

bte stun lmao

[outer sky]

yeah that was aids ngl

I remember one time I fucked up and forgot to sit on my global to avoid stunning something with BTE and I just stunned this mob in like 5 pools of sanguine for 7 seconds

I think it was in Shrine of the Storm. That 1st room would have like 10 initiates and that 1 elite mob and we killed all the initiates and I BTE stunned the guard or w/e it was called in all the sanguine

[potent pivot]

thats a wild way to look at it lol

[spring bough]

details finally seems to not bug out thank the lord

[potent pivot]

[potent pivot]

?

[outer sky]

Wait details works again??

[spring bough]

was fine on the dummy

just got in a game will find out

in solo shuff and its kept the data

[potent pivot]

you mean just the reskin is working with the blizzard meter

[spring bough]

fingers crossed

yeah

[potent pivot]

i'm assuming?

yeah

[spring bough]

the reskin was bugged asf the other day

[potent pivot]

ye

[spring bough]

4-2 first lobby of the night... didnt train healer first two rounds but trained them the last.... results LOL

its a beautiful sight with these new DR timers... line a kick with a quick blind into a kidney and boom they dead on a burst

outlaw healing more than DK... 👀

[fallen scaffold]

when are we pressing black powder? do we ever

[dark kernel]

No reason in pvp

Not for cleave nothing

[wooden spire]

[potent pivot]

neva eva

[jaunty osprey]

hi oxi

i miss you..

@wooden spire

[sharp sierra]

free will

[gray shell]

What spec are people typically playing in PvP? im not doing much dmg at all and idk if me or spec

[sharp sierra]

looks like mostly sub rn

[gray shell]

ty

[dark kernel]

Secured the win for Montage boys, I'm getting Glad next season for sure. 😎

[spring bough]

No PvP 😭

[wooden spire]

[stoic spruce]

You dumb bitch

Pvp in April and May

[grave basin]

bigdebuffs

updated to 12.0 i have no idea what it does now though

SAVED

ARENA IS SAVED

[glad zinc]

not going haste route anymore?

[lime oar]

didn’t someone on here figure out DR’s on enemy nameplate?

[molten hedge]

yes

msg me

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/juiceboxbets-gate-keep-gatekeeper-gate-keeper-gatekeeping-gif-1150723338054356201

[molten hedge]

lol i would tell anyone just didnt wanna post my friends disc in here where i posted the files

@hazy monolith have a q ill DM u

[sharp sierra]

god damnit im loving outlaw so far but sub is just.....so much more rewarding for .00001 of the effort i cant pick now 😭

[grave basin]

yo can you send me the link to your adon

dm

[molten hedge]

yea sub is insane i just played rmp and did top dam every game its pretty ridic

[molten hedge]

its not an addon. send me a friend req

[molten hedge]

Weren’t you saying new blind was bugged @potent pivot the tooltip says 40% reduced duration. It lasts 3 seconds and I don’t see that going away. Think u mentioned it’s supposed to be 1 second

It’s so broken with rmp

[hazy monolith]

I also figured friendly/player drs but it currently only works for cc debuffs with an ID

so feature is still experimental

[grave basin]

is there a way to make only certain DRs appear?

like if i only wanna see stun dr on nameplates

[dark moon]

That's great. Hopefully it doesn't get nuked at launch

[grave basin]

Its throwing a billion lua errors atm

It works though

[potent pivot]

It’s supposed to be 80%

[potent pivot]

lol i think they may have messed up idk, wowhead shows theres a 0.5 pvp multiplier on it

modifying the 80% reduce duration into 40%

[dark kernel]

This is my alt rogue that has no haste, I was queueing while doing Archaeology

Haste Route for sub is still MILES better

I do actual top damage now in games with deep dampening

[potent pivot]

[gleaming sentinel]

Grok is this real?

[molten hedge]

That makes sense bc a 1 sec cc is some uhdk pet shit save that for the birdssss

It’s so good especially bc of blackjack

And to help set up sheep’s

[outer sky]

You can remove the healer from the game for 17s every 30s and then for 6 of the 13s they can play theyre doing 30% less healing

[potent pivot]

Ye exactly

[potent pivot]

Idk I get the feeling this won’t last

Well maybe tbh

You trade gouge for it and longer 2min blind

That seems like a fair trade actually

[potent pivot]

Panda stonks rising btw

Extra racial cc looking a lil tempting

[outer sky]

Theres no way kidney>blind>sap>DR sap>blackjack every 30 seconds is fair

[potent pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-nobody-cares-sail-ocean-travel-gif-27612095

[outer sky]

Keep sailing

[molten hedge]

You kinda take yourself out of the game to do it. But I feel you

It’s fair compensation when they nerf sub dam

Lmaooo

[outer sky]

Not really. Trickster sub has 10 yard longer sap range

[molten hedge]

Oh fr? I didn’t notice that

[outer sky]

Yeah its a hero talent

[molten hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/suspicious-dont-be-parks-and-rec-jean-ralphio-mona-lisa-gif-4874008

[worthy lark]

has ynthing changed with rogue DRs? i tested my DH and something weird happened

incap got the target to half DR and then fear put it on full DR plus half DR on disorient

thats a bug right?

[outer sky]

They fucked up everything yeah

Roots and disarms and silences are all DRing with each other too

[worthy lark]

ah ok, i thought i was going crazy

[spring bough]

I second this

Bugs bugs and ….. more bugs?? 😭

[jolly sierra]

are they giving more racials? oof

[jolly sierra]

and bug exploits bans

[potent pivot]

no

[jolly sierra]

this time i am taking care of the girl i brought to wow like its made of glass

idk why tf newcomer accs have too much heat for a perma

[jolly sierra]

oh

[spring bough]

I’m liking. Interrupt a heal. AoE blind right after into a stun. It’s pretty wicked in solo shuffle. Healers folding

[jolly sierra]

did something happened w pandas lol

[potent pivot]

no lol

quaking palm kinda better than it used to be with cheap nerfs i think

[jolly sierra]

got it

just hope rog stays well

i think gotta go sub now as it looks like assa in difficulty

[spring bough]

That or the high mountain or Tauren AoE stuns

[jolly sierra]

did they really turned it ret like in complexity, chat? lol

[potent pivot]

we don't talk about these things

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

[jolly sierra]

@stoic spruce

[dark kernel]

Sub is good but honestly its not THAT much easier

[jolly sierra]

that is enough for me

[stoic spruce]

as is tradition

[jolly sierra]

i was really inept for the spec

tbf

[dark kernel]

You get a lot more dance but you can go out of energy real easy during it

so pooling is back sort of

[spring bough]

Deserved

DK be blasting per usual in PvP

[stoic spruce]

its literally only in season 3

fym per usual?

[jolly sierra]

pooling is back?

oh

[stoic spruce]

outlaw is triple S tier literally every season

[jolly sierra]

ye i raided classic

its fair

did BWL and MC, can do it tho

[dark kernel]

kind of. With how Sub is currently there are times where it's optimal to not cast an attack and just auto prior to using dance

because you can essentially set yourself up to have a pseudo shadowblades on every go

with your CPs filling after every attack

[spring bough]

This AoE blind 18s cooldown too OP

[jolly sierra]

tell me how its done before burst windows

and how much time is between goes

compared to former seasons

[spring bough]

Outlaw might thrive again after this last season of hell

[dark kernel]

our dance CD with haste is 20 seconds, so theoretically you can alternate goes on a healer and dps on that timer

[jolly sierra]

interesting, that desync the trinket

if is truly every 20

[potent pivot]

am i tripping or is this wrong

dance cd is just 20sec baseline now ?

not with haste

[dark kernel]

Yeah

my b

wrong coms

[jolly sierra]

huh

[potent pivot]

okok

[jolly sierra]

again pls

[potent pivot]

i keep seeing ppl say that

and i'm like wut

[dark kernel]

its secret tech cd

Panda ROgue dude

[potent pivot]

dance cd is 20sec baseline now

[dark kernel]

Dance is a 20 second CD, so you can use a go every 20 seconds on either a different DPS to get CDs or a healer and DPS

[potent pivot]

haste extends dance DURATION and shortens secret technique CD

[dark kernel]

Im soloing healers a lot rn

[potent pivot]

u can basically have 8sec dance

every 20sec

and dance gives extra cheap shot

[jolly sierra]

sectec every 20 by stunning

kk

[potent pivot]

very high uptime on dance now

strike does big dam

[dark kernel]

you can also Kidney+Shortblind+Sap a healer every 30 seconds

[jolly sierra]

ive heard evis hits worse than SS rn

[potent pivot]

ye

[dark kernel]

nah about the same tho

like 12K vs 15Kish?

modifiers depending

[jolly sierra]

ye technically SS its a bigger threat in that case

[potent pivot]

i was about to say

[jolly sierra]

gotta use your criteria

do you think i can run sub if i have a bad story w it in past and i used to go assa with relative ease, guys?

now w midnight rework?

[potent pivot]

idk just gonna have to try it and see

it hasn't changed that much

its just 2 less keybinds basically

[jolly sierra]

i see, i recall in DF i tried sub in a fresh run for shuffle and ended 0-6

so i switched again to assa lol

[dark kernel]

Sub had a mini rework in Season 3, then another rework in TWW Season2

[outer sky]

The real skill with sub rogue is actually in being able to judge exactly how much or how little damage and CC to send to look scary enough to bait a CD so they wont have it for your real go

[dark kernel]

The crazy thing is. At this time Blizz has baked so much of Subs damage in baseline, that the ONLY damage you can miss is the 5% shadow damage from blades.

Other than that, you can technically make every go a full strength one, full CPs every ability.

Its sub rogue kingdom

[outer sky]

How do you get full CPs every ability?

[dark kernel]

h/o let me login

[outer sky]

And yeah youre right. I suspect they may tune down the base damage a bit and buff blades

[dark kernel]

world servers down

so Shadow Techniques and Shadowcraft rigth now are GIGA zooted

So what I've been doing also, is when I have a go coming without blades, is about 6 seconds prior I get full CPs for kidney, and I kind of afk farm white attacks for Shadow Technique procs, usually about 5 CPs.

Send the Kidney on healer, send dance go on DPS and typically it's about the exact same strength as a blades go. Same full rotation and finishers

[outer sky]

Yeah shadowcraft is good

This is the build im playing

[potent pivot]

nah

this is the problem with taking prepatch as if it has any seriousness to it

[dark kernel]

im playing something similar

[potent pivot]

because on beta sub isn't even that strong at all

[outer sky]

Yeah thats true it really isnt

[grave basin]

tuning on beta is completely different

beta is on 12.0.1

we're on 12.0.0

retail live right now is several builds behind

[potent pivot]

this is why prepatch should only be looked at entirely as a meme

[grave basin]

not to mention lvl 90 scaling

[outer sky]

We're also missing some talents

[potent pivot]

almost none of the r1s are even playing prepatch rly

[grave basin]

if you think games on beta last 30 seconds youre in for a rude awakening lol

[potent pivot]

as far as i can tell

every time i look they're on beta

and things look like a different game lol

devourer isn't as crazy

etc

[potent pivot]

forreal lmao

[grave basin]

you can see trimaz's stream

[potent pivot]

they're lasting quite a while

[grave basin]

he streamed some games today

[potent pivot]

trimaz is running haste and insig on sub

ye

[outer sky]

I dont think they've even done numbers tuning on beta yet

[potent pivot]

nahj was also running haste as pandaren sub

[outer sky]

That incap

[potent pivot]

its 10 times better off than prepatch though

scaling is wonky af on prepatch because of being level 80

happens every expansion

[grave basin]

and ofc

people judging sub rogue in freaking skirms

against 1300 dads

[dark kernel]

Okay

hmmmm

Fuck farming gold is not going well

I just need my last 3 pieces of Bonescythe maaaan

[potent pivot]

end of expac is rough because all profs are kinda dead

[dark kernel]

Im making my perfection Vanilla Mog

[potent pivot]

once midnight launches u can make lots of gold fast

[dark kernel]

Yeah, Im going to hyper focus on gold making the first week, even over leveling

[spring bough]

Just wait for the new bloodstones week 1. Sell for profit then buy back when price drops lol

[dark kernel]

Oh shit that's also genius yes

i need to honor cap in case blizz doesnt reset it

[spring bough]

Price always high first couple weeks then drops like 50%

[jolly sierra]

but tell me, is assa still bugged af?

[potent pivot]

its not so much that its bugged

it just lost a lot of CC and it's damage tuning isn't where it needs to be yet

deathstalker is kinda bugged for both assa and sub

[lime oar]

hey hey hey i’m a 2.1 dad

[grave basin]

join the club

extended maintenance AGAIN

[dark kernel]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

i guess I'll level in BC anniversary

[potent pivot]

NOOOOOOOO

we cannot lose anymore souls to TBC's third release

[dark kernel]

i mean, I cant play Retail, I dont want to play HC rn

I never prioritize classic

Other than OG Classic, I never even hit level cap in any of the other expansions except Cata

I could play my D4 character

late game D4 is just tedius on the short time scale they do seasons

[gusty hedge]

NIGHTSLAYER SERVER JUST WENT DOWN RANDOMLY

[dark kernel]

AHHHH

[gusty hedge]

mid bg too

[dark kernel]

im on Dreamscythe

[gusty hedge]

dam

retail still not up either

[hazy monolith]

nah

[sharp sierra]

Paladin ruined the game for me I can’t even imagine playing anything else

[dark kernel]

THis is funny because D2 Paladin is my GOAT GOAT and I cant play any other paladins because of it

[jolly sierra]

corrupted ashbringer could be transfered to regular classic tho

according to last anniversary transfer opportunity

and they surveyed to give the chance to transfer all the shit to retail so

duty calls

[spring bough]

I wonder if they’ll do a fourth release in a few years

Honestly ngl if they did SOD for tbc I’d fall victim

[lime oar]

no way, that would be wild. no shot

[jolly sierra]

they did a survey months ago and added that option

they are considering

[spring bough]

If they did all the corrupted ashbringer players would revolt

I honestly would too cause I lost my decked out classic rogue and warrior that had everything 😭

[jolly sierra]

yessss do it

greedy fucks remember the feldrake

they screeched and nothing happened later

[spring bough]

I don’t wanna see more people running around w argent dawn tabards

That’s the 0.1% I’m apart of 😭

[lime oar]

i don’t really give af but if you had mounts or scarab lord title …would go crazy

[potent pivot]

idk i just hate they very idea of classic

if they aren't changing it to be a better version of itself, i already played these expansions once 20 years ago so i'm all good i think

if they ever make a truly good classic+ i will try it

[spring bough]

Did u play SOD?

Some of those seasons were 🔥

[potent pivot]

nah it didn't interest me much tbh

[gleaming sentinel]

Sods biggest mistake was breaking up the phases with leveling imo

[potent pivot]

i'd be down for a regular classic that just had like a lot of QoL and real game changes but idk

[spring bough]

Some seasons things were so broken

[gleaming sentinel]

After 40 I was like bro I don’t wanna level again

[potent pivot]

its hard to explain what i mean

[molten hedge]

Who is streaming that I can watch? I heard sub was good on beta is it just not doing ridic dam I assume

[potent pivot]

like fundamental game changes, not new crazy class roles

[jolly sierra]

they are just giving back the chance to play again tbf

[spring bough]

They waited too long to add the vendor at the starting area for all the abilities

[potent pivot]

ye i mean its all cool for the ppl that like that

not a bad thing

i just don't fw it

[lime oar]

i’m not wasting time in any classic server until or if they make a consistent classic+ with updates

[potent pivot]

trimaz and nahj have both done some beta, can prolly check their VODs. it doesn't look bad, but the pvp in general doesn't look good atm

[lime oar]

all these servers and characters yall play on are destined to die off an be useless

[spring bough]

They keep updating one of the classic builds. See people speculating it’s for classic +

[molten hedge]

I hear that. I’m not too worried so much will change

[spring bough]

If they do classic + I think rewards like mogs / mounts should be linked to retail chairs

[molten hedge]

It’s a total meme rn as sub in prepatch lol u do top dam most games and have more cc. All for funsies

[spring bough]

I’m ready to level lol

Less than a month to go for early access leveling

[molten hedge]

Yeaaa I like leveling as sub bc I can just stealth and strike to the next thing haha

That comes with the elite package right

Early access

[potent pivot]

unless they give rogue warglaives its all for not

criminals

[spring bough]

I’d pay an obscene amount of IRL money to be able to mog these again

[potent pivot]

ikr

huge oppurtunity they're missing making those transmog'able by warrs/rogues and then making recolors or even a graphical rework

[spring bough]

I don’t understand. Why they can’t have a sword and warglaive version of them

Maybe it would break the game cause of their coding or some shit lmaoooooo

[jolly sierra]

gotta flex at u if i get the CM gold on rog guys

if they allow transfers

that will age like wine

XD

[spring bough]

CM gold?

[potent pivot]

challenge mode

mop

[spring bough]

Ah that set was 🔥

[gleaming sentinel]

Everyone would have thundery jn 1 hand and a glaive in the other

[jolly sierra]

challenge mode gold

[jolly sierra]

arena WC players picked it for their matches tho

blizz is the one saying no

[spring bough]

Warglaives with mongoose illusion …… oooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiiii

[jolly sierra]

the new one from legion remix would be the cherry on the cake tbh

full green, glowing

[gleaming sentinel]

I’m partial to TF with unchained idk why

Just looks cool

[jolly sierra]

for me is TF with primal storm

matches perfectly

[gleaming sentinel]

Yea that’s a good one too

[jolly sierra]

the one i feel wasted is the verdant one from DF

after shadowflame its like getting shit after the diamonds

but ye, i wont waste the chance for the CM gold if they are considering

gotta get rogue xmog

[potent pivot]

huh

oh AWC

[jolly sierra]

yeye

they picks the unrestricted glaive model from unused files

for blizz its as easy as adding warrs rogs and monks to the allowed classes instead just dh

they just doesnt wants to

[outer sky]

@hazy monolith your shit's broken

[jolly sierra]

one thing its good is than midnight is bringing the crimson legion horse

from SOD

now they are only missing the tabard and its over

[potent pivot]

no monks

sry

[spring bough]

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/world-of-warcraft/redesigns-for-both-orgrimmar-and-stormwind-are-on-the-table-if-world-of-warcraft-midnights-silvermoon-overhaul-is-well-received/

20 years later……

[outer sky]

SW could use a redesign

[static holly]

Where do you get this new set? Need to dust out my goblin armee

[jolly sierra]

fair

[jolly sierra]

another one rlly

better just fkn update the other capitals

[spring bough]

Guess I know where the last titan is gonna take place 😂

Cataclysm part 2.0

[jolly sierra]

they rumored northrend

imagine a northrend revamp lol

[spring bough]

Arthas coming back w updated shadowmourne?

[jolly sierra]

ohhh

what would they pull from the ass to explain arthas returning lol

[spring bough]

Sylvannas or something idk

[jolly sierra]

sylvanas did a cringe grudge dialog to bid farewell to the last shard from his soul

in SL

[gleaming sentinel]

It’ll be the lich queen arthas long lost daughter boss babe

[jolly sierra]

jaina's bastard

[gleaming sentinel]

Strong female lead

[jolly sierra]

with like 5 classes at same time and with full plot armor

was funny af how they two broke off

she talked about babies after like the 1st F and he backed off

[static holly]

What u mean?! They already work on the revamp of northend

[jolly sierra]

they always does tho, just doesnt talks about

[molten hedge]

Has anyone tried getting arena 123 nameplate and it not work

[spring bough]

I think arena core added it to work with platynator but I haven’t tried it yet

[molten hedge]

I don’t have arena core. Wasn’t a fan

Too flashy for me

[hazy monolith]

It’s not

Click on the slider to choose a mode

[marsh blaze]

Hey guys, just came back to retail wow. I'm really enjoying assassination in pvp and was wondering if there are any reliable content creators to learn from

[lime oar]

tough call right now because assa desperately needs tuning, damage just isn’t there

[outer sky]

Try a game and test it. It doesnt show anything anymore

[marsh blaze]

Hmm I see, who's the go to creator for rogue in general?

[outer sky]

Palumor

[molten hedge]

Palu been busy on RuneScape lmaoo

[outer sky]

Yeah but he always makes a comeback

[molten hedge]

I wonder if pika will come back for AWC bc of lan

Prob not he’s making too much playing classic

That’s gotta have long term effects on mental health

[potent pivot]

seems done with wow for the foreseeable future

[potent pivot]

whaazz, nahj, trimaz, kalvish, trill

[molten hedge]

I remember something happened with Val and palu last ssn I think the team broke up

[worthy lark]

any reason why smoke bomb is in my cd manager but i cant see the cd? just a bug or?

[molten hedge]

Are you talented into it

[worthy lark]

yes

[severe helm]

Do you have war mode on

[worthy lark]

no but im hitting the pvp dummy and dismantle appears

smoke bomb doesnt

[severe helm]

Sounds like a bug

[outer sky]

Idk why its not working for me

[hazy monolith]

did you choose the mode on the slider

[worthy lark]

hm on assa smoke bomb shows but not on sub, guess its a bug then

also, garrote silence doesnt DR itself

lol

[molten hedge]

Silence disarm and roots all DR rn

[static holly]

When do you use shiv now? I know it's no DMG modifier anymore

[molten hedge]

I don’t even run it. I guess it’s just good as a slow if u want

The extra slow on crippling poison talent is almost just as good without the non damage global

[potent pivot]

just for slow, or hemo as assa

[molten hedge]

Sorry. How silly to assume every rog isn’t a fotm prepatch reroller to sub

[static holly]

Controversial talent... High costs, low impact

Dispell would be my thought

[spring bough]

Making the starlink plunge this weekend and finally dropping optimum 🙌

Hopefully no more internet outages

[spring bough]

Nosubtrickz

[woven copper]

Hahaha, while my Assa is unplayable, I decided to try Sub. Hah, has it always been like this, or will they fix it? I don't claim to be the best player in any form of PvP, but usually everyone explodes after two cheap shots, it doesn't even get to kidney, and I play in one-button mode in random arenas and shuffle. It's clear that to succeed, you need to at least learn the rotation, but so far it's very fun. By the way, I saw the build in zicore”s chat😆

If nothing changes, I think I've found my main😏

[gusty hedge]

its broken rn prepatch tingz

[gleaming sentinel]

When will they release DF or TWW classic

[woven copper]

It looks pretty cool, I think that's exactly how it should be, just like all rogue specialisations. Not this lean crap

[gusty hedge]

would be nice but multiple people said never! so there goes my hopes nd dreams lol

[gusty hedge]

if sub stays the only rogue spec to have shot in the dark its pretty much gonna be sub dominant expansion

[gleaming sentinel]

The 15% aura buff on beta for outlaw tho

I’m gonna try it tn

[woven copper]

In fact, rogue is a very self-sufficient spec. I played casters for a very long time, then tried out all the melee fighters and ended up with rogue. I regretted spending so much time and not getting to know him better. He suits my vibe and most likely there is no replacement for him. It's easier for me to go back to SP than to play a druid, for example. I hope at least one spec will be playable, preferably assassin.😆

[potent pivot]

Except for healing

Like warr/DH have leech/damage=hp, ww/enhance have heals they can cast, etc

Pika is a classic andy now, unforch

[woven copper]

Tbh,I didn't feel cheated, but that's probably because I'm not that into ranked PvP.

[stoic spruce]

It's awesome

[grave basin]

People picking their mains from fotming during prepatch

[stoic spruce]

No no

Let them cook

[grave basin]

Funny how no one found outlaw or assa to be their potential main

[stoic spruce]

They saw the doom and didn't even try

[grave basin]

Or they tried and it was shit

[stoic spruce]

It's pretty decent rn wdym

[grave basin]

Assa is decent?

[stoic spruce]

Outlaw

[grave basin]

Compared to 2 button sub?

[stoic spruce]

I guess if people are picking fotm rerolls from prepatch, they don't care it'll get tuned to not be comically op

[molten hedge]

Vial goes brrrr 😂

[grave basin]

I just want SL s3/4 outlaw again

Man that was the shit with 2x leggos

Unnerfed float, vanish cdr leggo

[spring bough]

Do you have one?

[grave basin]

Zicore uses starlink

His name is literally starlinkgamer

[spring bough]

Wasn’t gonna get it cause I was thinking I’d have to drill holes into the house and get on the roof. But I figured out there’s a weatherproof cable I can just run thru a window and put on my back deck 🔥

[grave basin]

Unless thats just for memes

[stoic spruce]

I do

[stoic spruce]

Naw I just put mine on the ground

[spring bough]

Yeah I have a spare bedroom on the first floor of my house. The window lines up with the railing for the back deck and there is an outlet right under my window

So I bought this cable I can close the window on that’s weather proof and no drilling needed

Bout to go punt optimums modem to the moon

[grave basin]

Do you not get fiber where you live?

Or is it just a cost thing

[spring bough]

Optimum tells me I have access to 1gb and every time I hit upgrade I get the email an hour later “sorry can’t do it”

My internet also goes out multiple times a month

[grave basin]

Damn

How much is the setup for starlink

The dish and all that

Then the maintenance cost/subscription

[spring bough]

$20 downpayment for all the equipment. They just mailed me the whole kit. Then it’s $125 a month for the max plan which is what optimum costs me

[grave basin]

God damn 125 a month

NA ping though

Im playing with perma 200ms

[spring bough]

I have one internet provider… optimum so I’m at their mercy and if starlinks the same price with 99.9% uptime then Fk optimum cause optimums uptimes like 90%

[grave basin]

Whats your in game ping

20?

[spring bough]

Idk prob 40-60

I lied it’s 23

I’m paying for 400mb+ with optimum and speed test says I’m at 150…..

[potent pivot]

Are you far from the router?

[spring bough]

One room away lmao

Same floor….

[potent pivot]

That’s slightly low then yeah

[spring bough]

Optimum is garbage lol

[potent pivot]

I pay for 600 iirc and I get 200-300 at my pc

[spring bough]

Got a great asus router too and didn’t penny pinch on it

[grave basin]

Singapore might be a burning hellhole but atleast the whole country is 5g covered

[gusty hedge]

50mb here $50 per month 23 ms home/world lol

[spring bough]

Sounds like u need a starlink too lol

[grave basin]

This month's anubis trading post set goes hard

[potent pivot]

Is that Jan or Feb

[grave basin]

Should be feb right

Jan's is over

[outer sky]

@spring bough my starlink works better than my parent's verizon fiber optic

[potent pivot]

Is it?

Thought they normally swap it on the 1st

[spring bough]

Good to know. Coverage maps says it should be 100mb+ over what I have now. Can’t wait to try it out

[outer sky]

@hazy monolith bro idk i selected the right thing, queued a match, and it defaulted to my arena frames not nameplates

[sharp sierra]

Fiberwire and i get around 1gb for 70$

[spring bough]

I wish I didn’t live in the woods sometimes lol

[outer sky]

nah bro

its the best

you live in a shit state that's your real problem

[spring bough]

Why do u think im in the boonies 😂

[outer sky]

yeah don't blame ya

[spring bough]

Been in my house 8 years haven’t met a neighbor yet everyone keeps to themselves lol

[outer sky]

the way it should be

lol imagine

somebody tries to break into my house

lmfao

rip

[sharp sierra]

Couldn’t do the boonies again I grew up in LA so this Midwest shit is already boring to me lmao

Think I’d just like to live outside of the city but close enough to still have a nightlife

[spring bough]

I call it the boonies but I’m like an hour n half from NYC 😂

[outer sky]

im at least 3 hours from anything that resembles civilization and the only downside is that it isnt 4 hours

[spring bough]

2 hours to Philly. Perfect place to be

[sharp sierra]

I miss my 400 taco trucks being open at 3am 5 minutes from my house 😭

[spring bough]

That’s the only shit thing. Every place to eats like 30minute round trip

[outer sky]

just make your own food

75% of my diet is shit I grow, fish, hunt, or trap

[spring bough]

I do but when I don’t wanna it’s like fml

[outer sky]

These days 90% of the time I go to a restaurant I'm disappointed because I'm thinking I could have made a better meal

I do wish we had a chick fil a

thats the one thing

otherwise

idgaf

[sharp sierra]

i like to know that i have the ability to live like that

and even happier to know I dont have to live like that lol

[potent pivot]

It nice to be close to shit cuz u can be lazy sometimes and order out

[sharp sierra]

personal prefernce

[outer sky]

but if I lived near a chick fil a i'd probably weigh like 600lbs

[sharp sierra]

Like i can hunt/fish/etc but LA roots kinda keep me always wanting more

Love eating good food from around the world

Clubs, theaters, night life idk man im not ready to part

[outer sky]

i lived in a town like that for like 2 years and it got really old really fast

[potent pivot]

Sometimes I wish I was even closer to the city man

Being able to get food from literally any nationality

[sharp sierra]

I will say the midwest made me realize how many rights I didnt have.

[potent pivot]

[sharp sierra]

never will go back west

UNLESS its coastal oregon only option

[potent pivot]

I miss my last place man

[spring bough]

I hear that there muffler… is it up to code? 🤔

[potent pivot]

There was a dope Thai restaurant I’d get curry from every couple weeks

Shit was 🔥

[outer sky]

When I was growing up my parents owned a really upscale Italian restaurant. It was like the place in town people would go to for business meetings and shit

[spring bough]

My go to around me is this middle eastern place that does a chicken shawarma falafel sandwich 🔥 and the home made baklava they have is top tier never had anything like it

[gusty hedge]

Some Random bgs are nice but, still feels bad half the time playing so hard for minimal results

[spring bough]

That’s cause everyone else expecting someone else to do the objectives lol

[outer sky]

i'm about to try some blitz

whats the BGE addon everyone is using?

[potent pivot]

Bge

[outer sky]

wasnt there another one

preflex or something

[potent pivot]

There’s 2 now yeah

[outer sky]

anyone tried the other one?

[potent pivot]

Just get bge imo

You can’t use them to target from a football field away anymore right?

[outer sky]

yeah you're probably right

[gusty hedge]

u can customize the bars names etc how u like, it looks standard like old bge

[potent pivot]

All these new addons ppl are talking about look so tacky to me idk

[outer sky]

I dont really understand the point of what blizzard did

like we're just replacing old addons with new ones

why

[potent pivot]

That’s not what they did

They closed access to the combatlog/special data afaik

It just so happens that doing that caused collateral damage to addons that aren’t “banned” because they used it to function

The only addons that were really “targeted” were things like Omnibar, omniCD, etc

Details, boss mods, WeakAuras etc

Overall I think it’s good that they did it at this point

Pve was dogshit

They seem to be moving in the right direction with the base UI

Just needs more work

Expansion hasn’t even launched lol

It’s kinda funny because certain people that were too stubborn to use addons really thought that they wouldn’t just get replaced

Lmao

[spring bough]

Seeing people discuss big wow characters getting killed off in the last titan

Thrall came up…. Can you imagine if they got rid of him after 20 years lol

[outer sky]

some people are saying they made this change because things like OmniCD and details (a good version of it) can reveal bad gameplay which causes people to get called out which causes noobs to get discouraged which causes them to quit

so its just better if we dont know if that ret pally died with 3 of his 5 extra lives still remaining

so nobody says anything to make him feel bad about it if he did

[keen canopy]

they wouldnt kill thrall after not doing anything with him in TWW if anybody dies it would be Jaina or Anduin

"um actually he did do something he told the stormriders to lock in or whatever" oh please that barely counts

[potent pivot]

Lmaoo naw that’s not why, funny tho

[outer sky]

whats their stated reason for not letting us access death logs and shit?

[potent pivot]

Imo they did this because all the biggest streamers have said they need to for years now

Asmongold etc

[spring bough]

He don’t even play anymore 😭

[potent pivot]

He constantly said he’d never play again unless they got rid of addons

[outer sky]

guess hes still not gunna play then

[spring bough]

He better logon then lmao

[potent pivot]

Brother

How do you know it isn’t WIP

[outer sky]

idk i feel like that one would be particularly easy to do since its just a recap of the combat log so i figured it would already be done if they were going to

[potent pivot]

I feel like the meter is one of the main things that seems obviously unfinished

[potent pivot]

On a real note though

You gotta realize it’s better for the game if they have all the true necessities on base ui

[outer sky]

sure but if I prefer a 3rd party version then I should be able to turn the base one off and turn the 3rd party one on

[potent pivot]

Sure

But things from outside the game shouldn’t be an advantage over things that are base

They should be purely preferential

[outer sky]

then thats on Blizzard to make a suitable product in the base UI so that it is purely preferential

[potent pivot]

They are imo

[outer sky]

ok then give me my addons back

[potent pivot]

What

Have you missed the point entirely

?

[outer sky]

if the base CD "bigdebuffs" is just as good as the addon and its purely just aesthetic or UI preference between them

let me have my old bigdebuffs addon back

id have no advantage

[potent pivot]

It’s already back

[outer sky]

right now it throws a lua error every 10s

[potent pivot]

That’s blizzards fault?

Lmfao

[outer sky]

well kinda they changed something to make it like that

or give me details back

real details

if their dps meter is just as good

[potent pivot]

Your way or the highway ig

[outer sky]

and wheres Gladius?

[potent pivot]

The developer stopped making that shit years ago

[outer sky]

worked fine a couple weeks ago

[potent pivot]

Bicmex had to step in and update it himself last expansion

There’s also 2 replacements up already

You can’t blame blizzard for shit like that

[spring bough]

I always wonder. How details/recount was here from pretty much the very beginning. And it took blizz 20 years to be like why don’t we integrate this into our base ui

And not even like a full port at that a half assed one

[outer sky]

Blizzard has been against it saying it causes people to focus too much on damage and now theyre giving us a shit tier one

[spring bough]

They coulda hired details dev/team like a few years in

[outer sky]

Blizzard does this thing

where they make a decision

the player base is against it

they do it anyway

then they wait like a year so it doesnt look like theyre admittin they were wrong

and then change it

[potent pivot]

Most game companies stay away from addons/plug ins/mods

If the players make it, the players make it

I don’t think you realize how crazy it is that they opened a dialogue with addon devs to try and put these things in the game

[outer sky]

like remember before shadowlands hit and blizzard announced you wouldnt be allowed to swap covenants? Literally EVERYONE was saying "This is a TERRIBLE idea". Then blizzard really leaned into it with "meaningful choice" and then a year later they were like "we're changing things up! you can swap covenants now!!"

[potent pivot]

While getting rid of things that went too far

The only other company that I can think of that’s ever done something like this is very recently with Rockstar and 5M

But nah we’d rather be negative nancys and shit on them because it isn’t perfect from the jump

I don’t get it

[outer sky]

they needed to make the replacements perfect before getting rid of the old shit

thats the problem

[potent pivot]

Says who though

[outer sky]

it would have aleviated the negative backlash

[potent pivot]

At least they’re trying instead of just nuking all addons and saying eat shit

[hazy monolith]

“Trying”

[potent pivot]

[outer sky]

"you want to make a better version of this? Ok please do but let us keep what we know is good until you do"

[stoic spruce]

They're actively responding to feedback so yes

[stoic spruce]

It doesn't have to be prefect. Or do they want it to be

It just has to be viable with better customization

[outer sky]

not perfect, nothing is but as good as what they were replacing

[stoic spruce]

That's just an untrue statement spoken from spite

[potent pivot]

The fact they opened any communication with addon devs at all is trying imo yes

[outer sky]

then let us keep our shit until theyre done trying and start succeeding

[potent pivot]

I think you’re just impossible man idk

[stoic spruce]

Longer than usual prepatch with the addon changes is no coincidence I think.

[potent pivot]

He didn’t have his little nameplate DRs for a few days so now he’s gonna be grumpy hating on blizz for the next year

[stoic spruce]

[spring bough]

Live beta test

[marble oasis]

Devourer dh is fun to play against atm T.T

[lime oar]

https://tenor.com/view/wendy-williams-tea-is-good-today-tea-time-gif-11284663

me when tricks an zicore bicker

[outer sky]

this is weird

you cant see trinkets

also @hazy monolith is there a way to get your addon to work in BGs?

[potent pivot]

It’s become a seasonal event at this point

[severe helm]

I do wonder what the purpose of all this work/effort was if we end up back where we started

its a pretty big endeavor to go full circle

[potent pivot]

You couldn’t properly see trinkets before either

BGE hasn’t tracked trinkets properly in a long ass time afaik

[outer sky]

I could always see trinkets in BGE

[severe helm]

its worked for me

yeah

[spring bough]

DontCast addon dev said he might be able to update it for midnight and will have it out in a week 🔥

[potent pivot]

Only if they pressed in front of you afaik

[severe helm]

I think its inteded to not see enemy trinkets/cds

[severe helm]

yeah it has to parse combat log

[spring bough]

Arena core shows them

[sharp sierra]

How bad is sub gonna get nerfed are we thinking

[potent pivot]

Everyone was using that nameplate cooldown addon

To see trinkets I’m BGs properly

[potent pivot]

You gotta ignore prepatch bandage man

Sub isn’t that great on beta

[sharp sierra]

Yeah I know, I’m really loving outlaw but Jesus Christ it feels nice to actually see real damage :(

[potent pivot]

Yeah a lot of the top blitz players had to use something else for it

Cuz they couldn’t trust bge

[spring bough]

Looks like the arena core guy made one for BGs that’s tracking trinkets

But it’s got that format u don’t like 😭

[potent pivot]

Wonder if it has the same issue

[spring bough]

Haven’t been on yet to try it out. Hope it works well

[potent pivot]

Cuz now they don’t even have access to the combat log

[outer sky]

Ok this looks like shit and I cant really read the names but I can see trinkets

[potent pivot]

Yep

[spring bough]

It’s a vibe

There should be a theme tab u can change it around on the arena one

[potent pivot]

Them AI icons 💀

[severe helm]

holup

you can track enemy trinkets again?

but not enemy cds right?

[potent pivot]

Never couldn’t

[severe helm]

what about enemy cds?

[spring bough]

Can’t do enemy CDs anymore pretty sure

[potent pivot]

No

[severe helm]

kicks?

enemy drs?

[spring bough]

DRs can only be on nameplates or arena frame but not both

[severe helm]

hmmm

you can definitely subvert that

[spring bough]

So when I have nameplate DR enabled it doesn’t show on arena frame

[severe helm]

if it can be in one place you can definitely anchor it somewhere else

matter of time before thats solved

the no kick thing is pretty unfun though lol

[spring bough]

Best thing so far is 18 second CD on AoE blind actually goes really hard with the new 2 DRs that are 16s

[severe helm]

isnt it reduced duration

[spring bough]

CC chains going hard right now lol

2 seconds

But it don’t matter just need that micro stop

[severe helm]

whats the point of a 2 second incap

just take gouge?

idgi

[hazy monolith]

you cant actually

[molten hedge]

It’s a 3 sec fear ???

[severe helm]

whys that

[spring bough]

It just works can’t explain it lol

[severe helm]

might not be true then

[molten hedge]

It’s not an incap lol

It also applies blackjack it’s pretty dummy thicc depending on comp

[spring bough]

Blinds a disorient?

[molten hedge]

Yes..

[spring bough]

Yeah AoE blackjack hard every 18 seconds

[severe helm]

yeah blackjack value does sound big

[spring bough]

Healers folding with new DR change

[severe helm]

youre explaining it

good work

[spring bough]

It’s like interrupt blind next cast 5 sec kidney 3 sec cheap

And they are smoked

[hazy monolith]

short answer is because the api doesnt allow it

[severe helm]

yeah I mean if the infos there for the dr timer I wouldnt be surprised if we find a way to transmit that info to some other anchor/display position in the UI

[hazy monolith]

its like every other new tray that they introduced

[outer sky]

Never mind I spoke too soon.. This addon shows the trinket icons but not when they go on cooldown....

[hazy monolith]

you get a box you cant look into it

[potent pivot]

3sec in pvp lool

[severe helm]

yeah but you can move it

[outer sky]

can you make your nameplate DR addon work in BGs?

[hazy monolith]

ik

[potent pivot]

kek and w

[hazy monolith]

nope

[hazy monolith]

you can try the experimental mode but that only works for debuffs with ids

[hazy monolith]

reason is blizz only delivers a dr tray for arena frames

[outer sky]

so the api allows it in arena but not BGs?

[potent pivot]

@spring bough

[outer sky]

ahhh

so you just cant track DRs in BGs at all then

great

[spring bough]

RIP bg addon lol

[hazy monolith]

you can track friendly drs with id debuffs

blind and sap works

xd

cheap and kidney dont

most stuns dont

[outer sky]

but like if someones sitting a base

and i want to ninja it

i wont know if hes on DR or no

[spring bough]

Blitz is gonna be fun 😂

[hazy monolith]

nah you wont know shit

but they are updating their API atm

[outer sky]

ah yes the Blizzard special

[spring bough]

Blitz players gonna riot when they find this out lol

[hazy monolith]

this from today

so maaaaaaaaaaaybe

there will be another update

[potent pivot]

Idk mane a lot were playing without any of this already

[teal prawn]

does anyone else have the issue where big debuffs don't show in duels or world pvp (for default blizzard nameplates)

[outer sky]

Was a fun game though. I solod the EFC 5x and got the returns

[spring bough]

Telling me people were playing blitz without DRs on nameplates???

[severe helm]

LOL bro

people at 3500 were

[outer sky]

yeah i find that hard to believe

[potent pivot]

Yup lol

[severe helm]

its true sorry

youd be surprised how bad you can be and climb in bgb

or rather

how little the micro matters

and how much the macro matters

[spring bough]

Yeah but for capping flags??

[potent pivot]

Some people just fucking vibe bro they are too good for all these crutches

[severe helm]

theres so many roles that dont care

[outer sky]

I can see it if youre a warrior or a shaman or some braindead shit but as a rogue you need DRs to know when you can cap on people

[severe helm]

you can track them without bge

on nameplates

[outer sky]

yeah i know

i was doing that

yall are saying people werent

im saying they mustve not been playing a class that cared

[severe helm]

no we were saying people didnt on bge

[potent pivot]

I was talking about the drs

[spring bough]

Just gonna start brawling for base caps now lol

[potent pivot]

Blitz has some actual demons that play it man

Like the 2AM to 6AM guys are wild

[outer sky]

you basically have to queue at those hours if you want to push r1 blitz

Im going to push r1 blitz on Horde next season. The title is way too sick

"Galactic Warlord"

like yeah i need that

[gleaming sentinel]

Get on too good of a win streak during the day, and can’t play at night = that character won’t get games anymore

[outer sky]

If I get the title Galactic Warlord I will never wear any other title ever

[gleaming sentinel]

Actually kind sick yea

[potent pivot]

That does sound kinda insane lmao

I assume glad is galactic gladiator?

R1 not glad

[outer sky]

yeah

[potent pivot]

What’s the shuffle title

[marble oasis]

Blitz Galactic Marshal? 👀

[potent pivot]

Galactic moron?

[marble oasis]

Naa we all earn that for trying to pvp in wow Lel

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

Galactic legend

Possibly galactic strategist for blitz

[potent pivot]

Ye ik was just kidding

[gleaming sentinel]

I ain’t getting anyone of em so whatev. lol

[spring bough]

I’m gonna try for that galactic gladiator 2300 elite now… might be a bit easier

At least get the mount

[potent pivot]

At least the illusion and mount actually look worth getting

Been a while

[spring bough]

Love a good illusion

[outer sky]

ok

what the fuck

[spring bough]

Was that 100% to 0 in one hit lmao

[outer sky]

yeah

he did 160% of my hp

[spring bough]

You know what I just thought? Blizz has this death recap in game how is this not added to their details yet

[grave basin]

I havent seen a single havoc dh

Did they all respec

[outer sky]

blitz changes based on your faction. Warlord for Horde and Marshal for Alliance

[potent pivot]

It’ll change if you just faction change the character after the fact won’t it

[molten hedge]

Whats all that data mining mean

I don’t speak it

[potent pivot]

Effectively nothing

Is there a new data mining? I’ll take a look

But what you screenshotted is meaningless basically like there’s no changes on it

[spring bough]

I like the 1combo point to 1 combo points… nice touch they added

[molten hedge]

That’s what my friends said net even

https://www.wowhead.com/news/midnight-beta-patch-12-0-1-class-and-spell-tuning-changes-paladin-evoker-and-380175?utm_source=discord-webhook

[potent pivot]

They buffed rupture a little

Changed Deathmark to give 10 energy 8 times instead of 80 in 1 dump(I think, basically no change)

Did they even buff rupture actually it looks so jank I can’t tell

[potent pivot]

It’s probably just fixing up some spelldata, I don’t see any actual changes for rogue

[molten hedge]

Ty

[potent pivot]

Might be to make them work with the extra points during blades, no idea though

[marble oasis]

The datamining from correct english to bad english is just ugh

[spring bough]

Watch 1cp actually give 2 somehow cause the wording changed bugged it 😂

1 combo point is 1 but 1 combo points is 2 😂

[wanton breach]

I wouldn’t put that past blizzard

[static holly]

Better then buy 2 get 1

[lone jasper]

Its like shampoo, 2 in 1

[outer sky]

https://x.com/bigmoranx/status/2016209197113991342?s=46&t=eB8vX3zOb5KLc0oU8Vj-og

Bigmoran (@Bigmoranx)

🚨🚨🚨 BREAKING: WeakAuras is BACK?!

RWF guild Echo has apparently developed their own version of the iconic addon.

Has WeakAuras replaced WeakAuras?

https://t.co/nEUK9FsQRh

X · Jan 27, 2026, 5:58 PM

[lone jasper]

StrongAura

[potent pivot]

This’ll be bricked tomorrow

LMAO

[grave basin]

isnt it just a reskin of cdm

[potent pivot]

The arms race is on!

[potent pivot]

CDM?

[grave basin]

cooldown manager

[potent pivot]

Oh idk maybe

It looks exactly like the WA interface lol

If it’s just a better way to customize the CDM then it’s dope

The Reddit thread got deleted? Lol

[grave basin]

anti addon people went straight for the jugular

had convulsions seeing the WA interface

[potent pivot]

I bet the rwf guys will have shit no one else has tho regardless

[outer sky]

I thought you cant get seasonal achievements anymore

[dark moon]

Guess its tied to the weapon tokens

[outer sky]

idk i'm reporting for exploitation

[potent pivot]

That’s on the same level as a quest lol..

[dark moon]

Huh?

[grave basin]

watching bicmex on beta and games going to

freaking 80% damp

and it's a quad melee lobby where there's almost no pillar humping

[potent pivot]

Yep

[grave basin]

it's ok sub is OP in prepatch 2 shotting means it must be good in end game

[dark moon]

80% damp shuffle seems disgusting tbh

[sharp sierra]

Some of these warriors healing is wild

[grave basin]

warrior healing do be something

[lime oar]

tellin ya its bfa

long ass boring matches

dunno why blizz would go back to that, i was new-ish to pvp in bfa and i hated it.

[sharp sierra]

Idk I kinda like not having half the roster one shot every 5 seconds

From my alt healers…it’s heaven lol

[gusty hedge]

i like how most sub rogues rn in prepatch think they're so good cuz they can kill in a global same rogues last season gettin bodied

[potent pivot]

[grave basin]

100% theyre gonna nerf dps self healing

then i dont think dampening will stack so high

it's just absurd dps self sustain making these matches last forever

it wont even be so bad if you had to trade dps for self healing like enhance but warrior's is completely passive other than impending

bahjeera's game also goingto 80%

and this is prepatch..

[potent pivot]

ok now this is dope

[grave basin]

what website is that

[potent pivot]

pvpq.net

sammers' website

very similar to drustvar but looks way more polished/modern

has a multi classer leaderboard too which is kinda cool ngl

[jolly sierra]

always is the kazzak one lol

[potent pivot]

there was some win trading in NA this season too

[jolly sierra]

how in china that is so common

[potent pivot]

for r1s and for glads etc

[potent pivot]

i think they already banned ppl for it in CN a month or two ago? i don't remember exactly

i remember hearing about it though

[jolly sierra]

was expected

they were inflating at like 3-4k CR tho

[wanton breach]

Fuck those wintraders

[jolly sierra]

heavy agree

[grave basin]

so erm

@potent pivot