pvp

[severe helm]

sure yeah I think a lot of people are just afraid of the risk

esp when its an account youve had for decades with thousands of achievements etc etc

people are sentimental

[sharp sierra]

Idk why I’ve never seen or heard anyone getting banned for gold unless you’re buying millions at a time

But that’s fair

[severe helm]

I have friends who have

so I dont go near it, its not worth saving the couple bucks

but thats just me personally

[sharp sierra]

That’s insane I even have it sent through mail since tbc 😭

[severe helm]

yeah some people get away with it

doesnt mean the risk isnt there haha

[sharp sierra]

Of course true but I mean the entire pvp lfg is filled with boosting for gold so they really don’t care it seems like

[severe helm]

well its not against tos to boost for gold

lol

but again I think the reason blizz isnt too strict on that is cuz it makes them money

they are VERY strict on boosts for rmt

people get banned mega fast for that

even coaching is against tos if you do it for real money

[sharp sierra]

That’s so backwards

[severe helm]

cuz blizz cant profit off of it

[sharp sierra]

Well personally. Fuck em

Lmao

[severe helm]

yeah it sucks esp for pvp players cuz blizz tourneys dont pay very well

[sharp sierra]

They even ruined OWs esports scene which imo was like the main reason esports became so popular in the first place after CS

Wait so this new rules they have only applies to classic?

[severe helm]

yeah gold power leveling is classic specific crack down afaik

[sharp sierra]

Wow

And you don’t think they’ll add it to retail?

[severe helm]

nah never

[sharp sierra]

Damn

[severe helm]

it would mean less reason for players to buy tokens haha

[sharp sierra]

Lmao that’s true, sorry for being so aggro against you

[spring bough]

Who knows blizz just doing blizz things

[severe helm]

blizz want muney

we know that much

[spring bough]

Launcher is now 5pm pst

[sharp sierra]

Is it all just gonna be leveling? Or will we have free PvP vendors at the max level

[spring bough]

If they want money they should let me buy old pvp elite transmogs. I’d make them rich

[sharp sierra]

Cause I’d rather just stay on beta if it’s still open

[dark kernel]

9:00 p.m. Central Time

So literally expansion patch day, if you ever expect to actually play on these days you are insane

[sharp sierra]

Beta launch had a 10 second delay…

[spring bough]

Nah server list is up now

Gonna be way sooner

[sharp sierra]

Surely they are prepared this time!

Only 15 years to prep and learn!

[spring bough]

I laughed when the tbc pre patch was “24 hours”

Like huh lol

[sharp sierra]

Probably having to fire all their ai vibe coders 🤣

Idk which spec imma go with. Sub feels fun but boring im really hoping they buff up outlaw

Might just be a mage season for me but idk

I’d love to play enhance if I wasn’t locked to a single button to do anything worthwhile

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-insane-stewie-family-guy-finals-gif-5655336

[spring bough]

i am insane thank u for confirming lol

[gusty hedge]

server list been up since 8 am 😭

[spring bough]

damn wtf i just got home lol

usually server list dont show until its almost done

[gusty hedge]

i come back and check every 30 min, my only night off😭

[sharp sierra]

Send me your work I’ll call in a threat 👍

[potent pivot]

???

[potent pivot]

No, it isn’t

[severe helm]

it for sure is lol

you cant do anything within the game for rmt

[potent pivot]

Nope

[severe helm]

I think its cuz its hard to draw the line of playing with someone while "coaching them"

you cant play with people for money

[potent pivot]

Teaching someone how to play is an “irl teaching” thing

[severe helm]

you can review vods and stuff

[potent pivot]

It 100% is not tos to do it for money

[severe helm]

but if youre playing with someone for irl money its against tos

regardless of what youre doing

[potent pivot]

You don’t have to play with them

[severe helm]

yeah sure you can go get coffee with somneone and talk about wow for irl money

[potent pivot]

Even method and echo advertise their players’ coaching for $80/hour on their websites

[severe helm]

yeah it has to be outside of the game though

[potent pivot]

It is without a doubt allowed

[severe helm]

you cant play with someone for irl money

so if youre walking them through a dungeon

[potent pivot]

Playing with someone is boosting not coaching

[severe helm]

in their group

I mean im coaching my friends when I play low rated arena with them

im not boosting them cuz its about learning not gaining rating

obv im not asking for money theyre just friends

but if you did get paid to do that it would be against tos

you cant group with someone for irl money in wow period

[potent pivot]

Playing with someone = boosting regardless of if you also coach them

That has to be gold

Coaching can be for $

[severe helm]

I mean in m+ if you were doing keys that arent gaining you rating it would be hard to call that boosting

or playing with a guild for bosses youve already killed

but in both of those cases if $ was involved its against tos

[potent pivot]

I don’t think it matters

I’m just saying how they define what’s tos and isn’t

You can screen share the game to each other and not be in the same group/instance etc for coaching

[severe helm]

yeah as long as you arent playing with someone else I think its fine

but Sam from Liquid did say he got banned for RMT coaching

I assume though that was him playing with other people

Im not sure theyd have any way of telling if someone was in a discord call with you so theres no way to even catch that

[potent pivot]

He probably did some very over the line shit yeah

Otherwise it doesn’t make sense

Unless he just streamed the coaching and was actively playing with them during it

[severe helm]

I do think people use the term "banned for coaching" as a blanket term to not say they were boosting though

[grave basin]

Are servers still not up?

[spring bough]

no lmao

launcher still says 5pm so within the hour hopefully

[grave basin]

I went to sleep woke up for work and servers still not up

By the time i reach home theres gonna be 2hrs maintenance again

[dark kernel]

I repeat myself every major patch

A

[grave basin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/s/MHI7fHpXsy

[spring bough]

https://clips.twitch.tv/EnergeticHealthyLlamaStoneLightning-Y0chMuolhfgBb2sl

from that thread

bro...... these people cant be more obvious

[grave basin]

Rbgers

Last season ended shuffle at 2550

This season 3100

[dense void]

He improved a lot in 1 season

[grave basin]

She*

[spring bough]

egirl life is on ez mode i guess lmao

[dark kernel]

I know a few legitimate women who actually play at glad level.

They hate these people most

They are very few and far between

[spring bough]

these boosters be simping over egirls theyll never see in real life lol

[dark kernel]

Oh no.....they sometimes do....that's the more sad part

[grave basin]

She got boosted in 3s by omega r1s and still ended up barely above 2500

[spring bough]

LMFAO they prob make the guys pay for the two way plane tickets....

[dark kernel]

Yeah....that one is common

Homegirl in my guild is a 5x glad and clutched up playing mage/ww/h priest and finished 25 wins last day

[potent pivot]

this dh is already banned?

[spring bough]

no idea lol

[potent pivot]

character doesn't exist

surprised the mw isn't

[grave basin]

Really?

[potent pivot]

oh the dh is on armory

[grave basin]

She aint getting banned

[potent pivot]

but doesn't exist on checkpvp

[grave basin]

She hid it

[potent pivot]

no

the dh

[grave basin]

Her profile on check pvp

[potent pivot]

the mw is on checkpvp

[grave basin]

Ah

Nothing to hide ig

[potent pivot]

she has her alts hidden, if she has any

its weird that the dh doesn't show up, because it shows on armory

idk if u can fully hide a char on checkpvp like that

[spring bough]

bout to be petty. make a character on that server. add her on my in game friend list and wait to hit that button.... and CYA title LMAO

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/arenacore

has any1 tried this addon?

looks to be updated for midnight.... and looks pretty good

[grave basin]

https://youtu.be/TVE776uf1D8?si=WvwpWYYWB3KI3G8B

[spring bough]

hows DK lookin still

[grave basin]

Frost dk was already reworked in 11.2 and unholy is amazing

So like S++?

[spring bough]

thought they caught a lil dmg nerf last patch notes

[dense void]

I use it and it is nice, I use it with venruki options with some customatizations and I cannot say anything bad about it. But also I play PvP for 2 weeks so I am not really an expert

[grave basin]

Video isnt talking about numbers

That can change anytime

More about the core design of the specs

[spring bough]

is that like a profile u can select? ill try it out. looks like gladius for the arena frame which i like

[dense void]

I think you can just type !UI to his twitch chat and you ll get link to google doc with his exports. And there is one for arenacore

It is clean I just repositioned it and changed DR icons which idk if you can do in midnight

[spring bough]

bout to find out on the DRs in a bit

im curious how itll change the blizz defaults if at all now lol

[dense void]

Ye in tww you could change the dr icons as you wish but dunno now and I am in EU so I cannot check

[lime oar]

yall better flood this chat when servers go live. can’t wait to read how it goes 💀

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-welcome-happy-rainbow-gif-18724184

[spring bough]

itll be a okay

[gusty hedge]

6pm

[spring bough]

another hour.....

[grave basin]

God damn

[gusty hedge]

guess ill watch another ep of southland in the meantime

[gleaming sentinel]

I been watching Primal

awesome show

[gusty hedge]

ill check it out, cancelled hbomax but i got a site i can watch it on

[outer sky]

they extended maintenance again

[static holly]

No u can't.api is restricted here

[outer sky]

They need to put the DR icons on nameplates and they also need to expand the list of buffs shown there too

and they also need to change the icons for the DRs

what dumbass decided the universal stun DR icon should be Concussive Shot?

thats what it is on beta

[potent pivot]

surely there will be a way to change it

through an addon or something

[spring bough]

bout to find out if arenacore will when servers are up

[static holly]

Idk. Read there are like 3 dr types and generic icons which u can't change API wise.
Regarding dr tracking, not Natively but with some extra work (manually).
We may see here custom solutions before s1

[potent pivot]

check out bbf/bbp to plz

[static holly]

I personally hope not

[potent pivot]

i'd like to know if they continue to have full functionality

[spring bough]

they both still work

they just dont have as much as they used to lol

[potent pivot]

what all is gone

[spring bough]

will find out when i get on lol

havent been on beta in a minute

[static holly]

U can use sArena reloaded

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/sarena-reloaded

[gusty hedge]

damn that means nameplate cooldown is done for also...

[sharp sierra]

Can you outlaw guys give me solid reasons why you don’t play sub

[spring bough]

im ready to play some outlaw with dagger mogs

[sharp sierra]

Because the more I play sub in beta the more boring it gets

[spring bough]

idk i like that its a brawler type spec lol

[gusty hedge]

cant hemo spam anymore

[spring bough]

grappling hook is also always a great time

makes blitz ez pz

and now we are also back to blade rush gaming... fast gap closer and energy

[gusty hedge]

even tho we lost fast retract speed, its not that bad

just cant wait to test

[dark kernel]

The main reason I don't play sub is cuz it was just a worse assa last season

[dark kernel]

Hemorrhage is what I miss most

God

[spring bough]

also CDR on a bunch of buttons is a blast

[dark kernel]

Cata rogue was peak

[dense comet]

legendary daggers and prep smoke bomb was kinda dumb

I rate wod rogue for sub

[dark kernel]

No you're not hearing me

I'm not saying the meta, I'm not saying the expansion

I'm saying the actual class design where things were placed in the trees, and what abilities and passives they had

Cataclysm Rogue has a virtually everything that most modern Rogue has had except in better spots and in better use

[dense comet]

I never liked the mop to legion class tree with 1 choice per tier but design wise I still rate wod higher

only speaking for sub though, wod combat was dumb

I would have liked cata design more if recuperate wasn't a thing

[grave basin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/s/ERvwglY71v

[dense comet]

You kinda had to press it for dmg too because it gave energy

[grave basin]

Reddit getting entertaining now

[dense comet]

Bet it's better than surv though still

flanking strike on 1.5 min cd and coordinated assault gone l u l

[keen canopy]

what is that true

what do they even do now

[dense comet]

they replaced fury of the eagle with some shotgun themed channeling and they have a 1 min aoe trap thing like they did in legion

reinventing the spec for the 9th time now

Even though the last iteration was pretty nice

oh and they had like 4 ccs pruned

[spring bough]

hey but they can DW now

[gusty hedge]

foreal? wth to the shotgun channelling

[dense comet]

That one's practically same as FotE but it's just shotgun themed

might be slightly larger radius like 15 yards

[dense comet]

DW?

[spring bough]

dual wield 1 handers for survival now

[dense comet]

l u l

yeah no more scatter shot, explosive trap, root part removed from tar trap

[gleaming sentinel]

i like sub, i just get bored of it pretty quick.

[sharp sierra]

I feel that, I’ve normally just always like high apm, high skill ceiling type classes in all games. Stealthy rogues was just always a fantasy I loved

I keep trying to play something ranged and get bored so fast. I really like sin this season but idk I feel like despite being trash outlaw was the most fun I’ve had

[gleaming sentinel]

Outlaw animations are just peak for me. slicing and shooting is too cool

[sharp sierra]

I think it’s just time I stop caring about which spec is best

[gleaming sentinel]

My only regret is not playing it sooner

[gleaming sentinel]

you can still achieve higher ratings than you think if you realy just improve and have fun with the spec you like

I'm pretty bad at rogue but im getting better each season and having a good time

[dense comet]

Some people are coming to an age where playing things like fury or outlaw wont be conducive to their joints well being

[sharp sierra]

I loved sin but idk it got old just applying bleeds. Sub just felt like a nightmare even though it’s what I grew up in this game playing in pve

Wasn’t until tww I gave outlaw a try and every single win (rare) felt like a magical alignment of everything working perfectly lmao. Maybe this season I fully commit and stop changing specs and classes every week

[grave basin]

Bicmex is NOT happy

[dense comet]

I havent seen a single person who was happy with midnight's sv design tbh

[sharp sierra]

I love my mage but idk I just love in your face gameplay

[gusty hedge]

my wrist start to hurt after prolonged teamfights 5min+😭

[sharp sierra]

Rogue feels like home I think I just wish it was more flashy

[potent pivot]

thank fucking god

[grave basin]

Pvers

[dense comet]

except RPers who are thrilled about dual wielding i guess

nah its not even pve or pvp issue

[potent pivot]

nameplate cooldowns is the worst addon ever

[sharp sierra]

Something about arcane aoe just tickles my brain lmao

[dense comet]

Nobody liked putting down a 1 min trap on the ground back in legion for raiding either

[sharp sierra]

I played SV in DF it was fun

[grave basin]

I mean i dont think we play ffp in pvp

[dense comet]

and even for raiding the removal of CA and basically nerfing flanking strike to 1.5 min is a mobility nerf

[gusty hedge]

it helped me so much with enemy cds, i could never set up omni correctly

[potent pivot]

a properly set up omnicd was

[sharp sierra]

Do we think RMP will still be a solid comp? And how does it work with outlaw? I figured sin/sub was the only real way to play it

[dense comet]

I use bars instead of icons to track my CDs, I'd be surprised if the ingame cooldown manager supports something like that sadly

[stoic spruce]

Yeah RMP always survives

With outlaw it'll just be less effective

[gleaming sentinel]

outlaw rmp just won blizzcon

[sharp sierra]

Yeah that’s true

[dense comet]

yeah rmp always survived, the important question is which spec of rmp

most people wouldn't treat frost sub rmp as the same style as arcane sin

[sharp sierra]

The only downside is the only real IRL friend I know that plays wow only plays warrior and I feel like everytime we attempt a comp it’s just gg

[gleaming sentinel]

i think outlaw + mage has been glad viable every season of every expac

[grave basin]

The sv midnight channel aint dooming too hard

[gleaming sentinel]

am i crazy?

combat + mage etc

[dense comet]

everything is glad viable

It's just one route is rougher than the other

[sharp sierra]

I’m a 2000 Andy anyways because I just swap classes every damn week

This season I will stick to 2 specs and one healer

And break the curse.

[spring bough]

SERVERS UP

LETS GO

?? game says my graphics card out of date LOL

guess a 4070 is too old..... RIP

[dense comet]

can I have it?

oops

I didnt mean to reply to that

[dense comet]

it is very old gimme

[spring bough]

i dont understand this error lol

all my drivers updated >.>

[outer sky]

Servers are up

[outer sky]

they always fuck this up somehow

[spring bough]

i had to fix the CPU error a while back from wow

now its a GPU one..... wild lol

[sharp sierra]

How bad is the delay…

[spring bough]

just logging in... somehow cleared my GPU error lol

[spring bough]

not really a delay but im in legion dalaran lol

details addon still working somehow? i guess it just reskins?

[keen canopy]

sheesh guess the transmog thing means it got rid of all my mogs huh

[molten hedge]

whats a good assa build to start off anyone know already

[sharp sierra]

Okay last outlaw question. Is NE BiS for it like sin? Or can my undead dreams live on without a major difference

[gleaming sentinel]

extra stealth not as important anymore, but ne prob still bis

but you'll be fine going undead

[spring bough]

holy fuck we cant que rated

they didnt change the ilvl required to que

and its still 707

what fucking morons

[gleaming sentinel]

yea gonna go ahead and log in tomorrow

lol

[spring bough]

RIP shuffle and blitz

guess its lfg 2s or 3s or skirms lol

[spring bough]

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/talent-calc/rogue/outlaw/fatebound/EAOBEVVVREUUVYiBRBVNVFVFVRSUVSYAQBFFFVUFEBVDgzzWkpoyhWh5

is what ima try rn

[outer sky]

will we get more talent slots as we level?

[spring bough]

yeah

time to get all my outfits setup

[abstract stratus]

do we have a rough idea of what the fatebound sin build is

[spring bough]

do i really need more than 10 outfit slots lol

yeah outlaw fun ASF

first skrim was with a sub we did equal dam

main gauche is BROKEN

bout to go mastery stack and fucking annihilate people with it

[outer sky]

we probably dont play FB anymore

right now every build looks terrible

we dont have enough talents to make a good envenom build

and bleeds are kinda shit

plus we're forced to take kingsbame

[dense comet]

people can level? I thought this is a prepatch

[outer sky]

no they cant

[dense comet]

Also are subs playing with 100 energy or still taking vigor?

[spring bough]

yeah outlaw broken rn lol

but cant see any DRs

[potent pivot]

we do

goodluck trying to play deathstalker

[potent pivot]

dashing envenom build prob

[potent pivot]

something similar to this is likely

[stoic lava]

no killing spree feels spiritually wrong

[spring bough]

F killing spree AOE bullshit for fatebound lol

im clocking TF outta people without it right now

[stoic lava]

why did they make grapple slower 😭

[spring bough]

why do locks

have so much health

and so many ports

its insane

[gleaming sentinel]

How we feeling about it? I’m afraid to log in

[spring bough]

im having a blast on outlaw

just chained the F outta a warrior so hard with BTE

50k +

[outer sky]

@potent pivot link both trees please

[outer sky]

Its terrible

[potent pivot]

wdym, like the class tree?

[outer sky]

Ive always been pretty skeptical of the "Wow is dead" claims but this legitimately could kill the game. Its worse than I ever imagined

[outer sky]

Ya

[potent pivot]

i just had that screenshot

ill have to go remake them

[gleaming sentinel]

How so?

[outer sky]

Absolutely nothing blizzard tried to replace addons and weakauras with is half as good as what theyre replacing

[potent pivot]

zicore

you know deathstalker is fucked right

[grave basin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1qenu4e/the_biggest_myths_surrounding_addons_in_midnight/

[outer sky]

idk i guess?

[potent pivot]

if someone clears your Mark you can never reapply

[outer sky]

you dont think we take CT?

[potent pivot]

its dead content

[outer sky]

is that intentional?

[potent pivot]

VW gives reduced energy for secondary target bleeds, so CT seems like a waste

VW is also fucked up atm

it reduces your main target's energy refund if you bleed multiple targets

[grave basin]

There should be whitelisting spells for this

[potent pivot]

so 1 and 3 targets, you get the same exact energy refunded

[spring bough]

watch them post a note it is LOL

[potent pivot]

so bleeding anything but main target is legit a waste

unless bleeds do actual damage

[stoic lava]

People will adjust, the game didn't start with weak auras

[outer sky]

so by reduced you meant none?

[potent pivot]

no

[stoic lava]

As long as everyones on the same playing field is all that matters

[potent pivot]

main target refunds 3 energy per proc right

secondaries refund 1 energy per proc

but when you bleed secondaries, it makes the main target refund 1 too

[outer sky]

oh right LOL

[potent pivot]

so TECHNICALLY none

[outer sky]

thats so stupid

[potent pivot]

but

none in a weird way

[outer sky]

i wonder if thats also intentional

[potent pivot]

that one isn't i'm sure

makes zero sense

[outer sky]

what path do you think we go down on the class tree side? Def not cold blood

[potent pivot]

the Mark clearing thing

is an after effect of the Mark changes

idk wtf they're doing

[spring bough]

keep refreshing curse addons yall they are updating 1 by 1 slowly lol

[grave basin]

Addons not compatible will not even load now

There isnt a checkbox to load out of date addons anymore

[potent pivot]

nah cold blood is dead

prob just vigor/deeper/subt

same old same old

[stoic lava]

just wanna que bgb but they kept the old 707 ilvl requirement to que

[grave basin]

Cb is like 10% extra crit chance?

[potent pivot]

supercharger is a possibility but idk

[outer sky]

may try this. if energy is bad then I'll drop featherfoot for tea

[grave basin]

Are servers even up?

On na

[grave basin]

Im p sure tea is mandatory

Or youre afk simulator after 30seconds

[outer sky]

the damage meter they added legit just doesnt work

you also cant check death logs

this is horrible comapred to details

[grave basin]

[outer sky]

i also dont feel like im playing a rogue

the cheap shot change really hit

[spring bough]

um so they seem to have restricted chat while games are in progress

[outer sky]

like

[sharp sierra]

yes

[outer sky]

im not really doing anything

[spring bough]

everything i type in an arena doesnt go to party chat until a round ends

[sharp sierra]

currently doing a faction change lol

[potent pivot]

[grave basin]

All the people who didnt play beta

Gonna be having a nice awakening today

[spring bough]

addon bug or intended? lol

[potent pivot]

i pray its intended

because that would be fucking hilarious

[sharp sierra]

my fps without addons is massive

[grave basin]

But what about my rating

[grave basin]

Wdym

Like you cant type a single thing?

[spring bough]

start an arena game in the pre game u can type in party chat

second the game starts u cant type in chat

[grave basin]

Wild

[keen canopy]

hell would they do that for

[grave basin]

People dont mald mid game

I usually only type "gg" or "nice" though

[spring bough]

yeah but how can we do call outs if its like that in blitzs or shuffles

[grave basin]

Spam ping

[keen canopy]

surely not like that in blitz right

[spring bough]

cant que blitz

ilvl required is 707

[keen canopy]

yeah i saw

[spring bough]

and we are squished

[keen canopy]

pretty funny

[grave basin]

hahahhqhahahahahahahhahwhahwhahahwhhahahahwgwgwhhwhwgww

[keen canopy]

i was making jokes about it in vc with my friends like "damn and here i thought i had the best gear you could get"

[spring bough]

i cant even whisper when a match starts

yeah literally cant send ANY chats while an arena game is active.. . skirms and 2s

[outer sky]

Even to your bnet?

[spring bough]

might actually just be me

maybe some addon lmao

[keen canopy]

disabled all my addons except ATT

[outer sky]

I think this is going to blow up in blizzards face

[keen canopy]

miss my UI addons greatly

[grave basin]

Brother every point of contension has been raised

[outer sky]

With dynamic macros gone, shuffle and even lfg arena becomes unplayable for a lot of classes

[grave basin]

Like no death log

[keen canopy]

trying to recreate with blizzard stuff they added but kinda hard to get it the way i want im sure somebody will do it for me, really im sure they already have and i just havent found it yet

[grave basin]

Blizzard either gives no fucks or is biting off more than they can chew

[outer sky]

Its the 2nd one

[grave basin]

Hows assa

Im at work

[outer sky]

Horrible

[grave basin]

Cant test anything

@spring bough hows outlaw

[outer sky]

I dont see any reason to play rogue. We dont have any more CC than a warrior

And we die faster

[grave basin]

Wrong

[spring bough]

doing good with either spec

[grave basin]

Sub still does

[outer sky]

It feels so bad vanishing and I get 1 cheap shot

[keen canopy]

and betterblizzframes cant play without dark mode honestly

[grave basin]

You mean assa has no reason

Sub is still par excellance

[keen canopy]

grapple feels so bad

[outer sky]

The correct way to do what blizzard is trying to do was to introduce the addon replacements one by one and refine them based on player feedback until people actually started using the blizzard option instead of the add-ons at some meaningful level. Then one by one get rid of the add-ons

[grave basin]

Can you queue for shuff or does that have the min ilvl too

[grave basin]

That was their initial initial plan

[spring bough]

both shuffle and blitz ilvl requirement of 707 still

and we are in the 100s

[grave basin]

Then they went scorched earth

[grave basin]

So you can only queue skirm and random bg?

[outer sky]

Yeah idk why because this is just cringe

[outer sky]

You can also queue non solo arena and BGs

[spring bough]

2s/3s/ and prob rated bg too

[grave basin]

Ah 2s still works

Ok

Can you play ddh?

Or make one

[spring bough]

i have a DH not gonna try it tn tho

[molten hedge]

energy is feeling like shit

am i supposed to just bleed one thing

[dark kernel]

so wait

we need 20 or 25% haste for sub

[grave basin]

Where are all the copers

[grave basin]

You cant anyway without int gear?

[outer sky]

Yes. Bleeding 3 gives you the same energy regen as bleeding 1. And the bleeds dont do much damage so should just bleed one

[outer sky]

I dropped Featherfoot for Tea

[grave basin]

Yea tea is MANDATORY

Too bad after 1min youre all out of charges

[outer sky]

Im not even sure you need a keybind for tea anymore. Its just going to auto proc

[grave basin]

And youre playing classic rogue

[sharp sierra]

no more alliance for me.

was a fun 4 months lmao

[grave basin]

It doesnt give mastery anymore so just let it auto proc

[outer sky]

Yep

[grave basin]

You wont have a choice anyway

[grave basin]

Hows outlaw

[outer sky]

Needs to be increases to 5 charges and give 150 energy each ngl

[grave basin]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/fix-rogue-energy-regen-assassination-subtlety-are-too-slow-now/2229731

Sub is kinda alright imo

[dark kernel]

I dont know I cant even use the AH

[grave basin]

But assas is diabolical

I almost took off from work to play today

Never take off from work on patch day

[spring bough]

@potent pivot the biggest missing item from betterblizzplates is the stun duration on the nameplate or CC duration

[molten hedge]

da mage feels horrible for assa lol

i do nothing

[dark kernel]

so

get this

if I try to buy from the AH

it auto deletes the number

every time i enter it

and says "No items found"

I physically cannot use the AH

[molten hedge]

u cant

[outer sky]

This is the point ive been making. Hes absolutely right. If we're going to have that many energy talents then investing in ALL of them should comfortably remove dead globals. Right now you need all of them just to play the game which is stupid af

[gleaming sentinel]

Chat gpt give me a good way to tell blizz to buff rogues

[sharp sierra]

Chatgpt: "Bombs"

Alternative answer: "Offer breastmilk as a trade"

[grave basin]

Energy talents being mandatory to even make the spec playable has been a talking point for years though

[outer sky]

But now theres more of them

[grave basin]

Its part of the "leveling a rogue from scratch feels like ass" package

[grave basin]

And for worse outcome

[outer sky]

Yep

[exotic dove]

So the DR tracker blizz has works on beta but not prepatch

at least for me anyway

[molten hedge]

what stats does assa play

[spring bough]

yeah i have 0 DR indicators

[grave basin]

Isnt there an option?

[exotic dove]

Ah ok cool its not just me on prepatch then. Also my damage numbers do not work the combat text yellow or white numbers

[potent pivot]

can you still change the size/highlight buffs/debuffs?

[spring bough]

all enemies have is a name and a health bar and nothing else

[potent pivot]

huh

[exotic dove]

Yeah same thing for me I can see my debuffs like rupture but nothing else

[molten hedge]

you can turn debuffs on

its in nameplates

[exotic dove]

I did and it didnt work for me

[molten hedge]

in arena it does for me

[potent pivot]

try without any plate addons turned on

[exotic dove]

still nothing but Im not too worried about it right now since its prepatch day 1 and I cant really do anything Shuffle still requires 700+ IL 😄

More concerned with the Dr tracker

[spring bough]

for the nameplates

wym huh lol

all its showing me is a name and a health bar and i get no debuffs or buffs on enemies

[potent pivot]

because debuffs should be showing

[spring bough]

cant tell who has BOP who is CC

[potent pivot]

they did on beta

[spring bough]

well def not rn lol

waiting for betterblizzplates to update

[keen canopy]

yeah my rupture shows but not any cc at all is that something else

[exotic dove]

It works on beta but not prepatch. I logged on beta and they still work

but on prepatch its a no go

Some disconnect in prepatch compared to beta

[spring bough]

the hardest thing getting used to is not spammingg BTE when it resets like its crackshot cause ull just send like 2-3 CPs lol

[keen canopy]

yeah exactly i keep finding myself just pressing it

[exotic dove]

I miss combo points on the target frame I had too

[spring bough]

i currently have 3 blizz dmg meters 1 i cant even move w the edit mode but thankfully its almost off screen

[keen canopy]

blizzard damage meter seems fine but idk kinda lacking i would rather just use details

[exotic dove]

Details updated and works on prepatch for me but you can no longer see enemy team damage

[keen canopy]

does the new owl mount have a druid form like Anu'relos btw i dont feel like logging onto my druid to check so if anybody knows off the top of their head

[grave basin]

Nope

Purely mount

[keen canopy]

shame

[grave basin]

I just got to 500 a few days ago

[spring bough]

this is my current situation

no matter what settings i change i cant get rid of stuff lol

[dark kernel]

Sub is feeling weird

does damage

[dark kernel]

Wtf is that

I cant use the AH

is that a me bug

[spring bough]

betterblizzplates wonking out

[dark kernel]

hahaha

[abstract stratus]

so many things broke but like only half broke to the point where the settings in the addons are unavailable but the last settings are sorta active but not

[potent pivot]

.>

[abstract stratus]

my better blizz plates a setup last night are also turbo fucked

[keen canopy]

am i supposed to find waldo

[abstract stratus]

game is the ugliest its been for me in a hot minute

elvui wont have a functional version for weeks so im stuck with this ugly mess

[grave basin]

So how busted is uh dk

[spring bough]

uhhhh

2 UH dks just fucked our healer in skirm

so hard

[grave basin]

[spring bough]

all 4 nameplate settings enabled somehow even tho 1 selected in settings and its also checked for bg/arena only...... 🙁

[dark kernel]

Okay, so I feel like the Sub Burst is: Open SS > Kidney > Dance/Blades > Goremaws > SecTec > SS > Evis > CS > Evis > Last SS as stun ends

it logically lines up everything, and it gives you energy after

I realize I need to get weapon master somehow

[lime oar]

is goremaw beefy again

[dark kernel]

not really, but you get a stack of danse and it makes your finishers free so when you end rotation you are not starved on energy

it also gets it on CD

you have Goremaws every other dance essentially

[acoustic junco]

my god these outlaw general tree talents are just straight ass now.

[dark kernel]

ignore that fucking talent build. I didn't even have 2dance this is better

[abstract stratus]

better blizz plates also isnt showing combo points anymore

[spring bough]

its a hot mess rn and blizzards regular nameplates look so ass to me

[potent pivot]

isn't there a way to have that in the base settings

or maybe it was Plater that also has it

[abstract stratus]

i dont think so i had it on elvui for years then had it last night with bbp and now i got nothin

[potent pivot]

plater def has a setting for it

no idea if its working rn tho obv

[spring bough]

platynator is looking good rn not gonna lie

[dark kernel]

uhh is the new system supposed to let us Mog swords as daggers?

NGL this is very badass

[spring bough]

yes

the one thing it stopped though was the non illusion weps where u could get illusions on them

[dark kernel]

Imokaywiththis.png

[spring bough]

cant do that anymore

[gusty hedge]

mad about that ngl

[spring bough]

so perditions blades no more illusions RIP

[dark kernel]

i didnt know that was a thing

[grave basin]

Can you still mog artifacts

Like as a feral can i mog my daggers

[dark kernel]

I can use thunderfury's as a sub rogue

LAMAO

[grave basin]

Since technically i cant wield daggers

[vocal surge]

Trickster pumps damage, sadly we lost

[grave basin]

Vancleef malding

[spring bough]

bro why u selling me out

[grave basin]

I swear default ui has combo points

[spring bough]

this mage poly'd me at 10% then arcane missle'd me and i got out and KBd him

[grave basin]

Its under show special resource

[spring bough]

mage was def pissed lol

[grave basin]

Hows prep

[spring bough]

fun

RIP details death logs tho

[grave basin]

Picture shows zazmage

But shows pally icon

Im so confused

[spring bough]

itt was a pally. the mage was the round before

[grave basin]

Ah ok

[vocal surge]

Crackshot in Midnight lmao

[stoic spruce]

peak called

they want their Outlaw back

[spring bough]

get ur ass on sick boy

[stoic spruce]

I am

[spring bough]

start ripping them BTEs like they crackshots

[dark kernel]

Yeah I need whatever build yall are doing for outlaw

my shit feels ass

[spring bough]

CQQA6i6ki8tqEZF+5XBKpc8wuCgZgxYGmZbmZmZGPgZjZmZWm2GsNDAAAAAgtxMzMzMzMjZmxAAAAwAYgNwY0Y2AsNhFGAYMD

[spring bough]

and this is trickster

CQQA6i6ki8tqEZF+5XBKpc8wuCgZYMGzwMbzMzYGjZjZmx202gtZAAAAAAWWmZmZmZmZmxMzYAAAAYMAY2GGzMamZDbsZCbAYmZmB

[spring bough]

in the trick one can go 1/2 ace and put 1 into acrobatic

[dark kernel]

huh

[spring bough]

in the trickster build. verm is using 2/2 ace

you can go 1/2 ace and 1/1 acro

[vocal surge]

^

[ionic orbit]

What are your thoughts on these latest patch changes? My first impressions are that I hate them on sub rogue. The change they made where everyone is immune to stuns after 2 seems to make a big effect in BGs. Just did my first one and I could tell my cheap shots were not landing nearly as much on new targets that were already immune from other players. No symbols of death anymore either which was very handy to get some energy back when running the Without a Trace tree line. Sub rogue already depended on shadow dance a lot but that dependency just increased even more.

[dark kernel]

Interesting

so you dont go Ambush

I see it hits for noodle piss

so I agree

So your build differences are 1/2 Ace 1/1 Acro vs. 2/2 Ace

[potent pivot]

symbols should just be kinda baked into dance iirc

[dark kernel]

im going to be real I like your build, but I lowkey think this is hot horse ass

[potent pivot]

through master of shadows/shadowcraft

[dark kernel]

after thinking about it, sure we get stuck out of combat a decent bit, but how often will we actually have it

[vocal surge]

You can move it

[dark kernel]

yeah i see it only goes to hook tho

[potent pivot]

sub is also going to run a much more healthy arrangement of stats now

crit/haste/mastery/vers

they're all pretty good for it now

[abstract stratus]

where the fuck is health numbers in bbf

[unborn compass]

is assa actually fucking worthless now or is sub just braindead insane

[potent pivot]

i don't think its going to be worthless

probably just have to get used to the new playstyle

[exotic dove]

I personally think Assa could use damage tuning increases. I have only been playing Sub on beta now

[unborn compass]

it literally deals 0 damage

[spring bough]

🤷‍♂️ it don’t do much lol

[unborn compass]

and i just had a sub rogue walk over me like i was an npc lmao

[dark kernel]

look at how it scales with damage

[stoic spruce]

DP is weird because if it's not good enough, it's useless but if it's real good, it could incentivize attack stopping

[potent pivot]

its prepatch man

[spring bough]

I don’t wanna stop attacking tho 😭

[potent pivot]

you really cannot expect anything to be balanced during a prepatch

whatsoever

[spring bough]

If devourer catches u

2 casts

Bye bye

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

And havoc?

[vocal surge]

All the same stuff that was op

in Beta

[spring bough]

50% miss chance anything

[vocal surge]

still op rn

[spring bough]

Idk what havoc has

[exotic dove]

Prepatch is a good time to take a break and play beta or do other stuff

[spring bough]

But you try and hit havoc

50% misses

[stoic spruce]

Why play beta atp?

[spring bough]

Prepatch is the beta now lol

[potent pivot]

beta has the midnight scaled gear no>?

[outer sky]

Yes

[potent pivot]

still better to test on beta

[outer sky]

And all talents

[potent pivot]

yh

[exotic dove]

Only thing I would log on prepatch for is to do that house thing I haven't done yet. Anything else like shuffle I log on beta

[stoic spruce]

I really don't believe people test on beta tbh

For the most part

[spring bough]

Full on test when midnight launches 😂

[potent pivot]

a lot of people test the dungeons and then the raid testing

a decent amount of ppl test the leveling/questing/etc

but yeah

very minimal pvp testing

[stoic spruce]

I think they play them but don't test

People often go to the pve channels and ask what builds to run for beta. Doesn't sound like testing to me 👀

[potent pivot]

real.

people ask that in here a lot too usually

just play the game and try things

[hexed blaze]

yo

Why is my resource display this giant immovable object any UI pros

[molten hedge]

anyone know how to get combo points in better blizz plates

is it just broken

[potent pivot]

[potent pivot]

broken prepatch things prob

try disabling addons

[river pollen]

Did safe fall get nerfed, not sure since its been a while i played, lost a bunch of hp from dismounting from a height i thought was safe lmao

Also smoke bomb doesnt seem to show up in cooldown manager even tho the icon is there

[molten hedge]

what kinda sub DS builds have u found? i heard someone mention gormaws but idk what id drop

[potent pivot]

Deathstalker is dead

[molten hedge]

ohh so go trickster? good to know LOL

why is it dead i havent read anything

[potent pivot]

No choice atm

If someone clears your Mark you can never reapply it

So it’s just dead content

[molten hedge]

oh wow

[potent pivot]

I should prolly pin that or make a command mb

[hexed blaze]

Its in the advanced settings for 'Edit Mode'

You can't see on a nameplat anymore if something is trapped or stunned? Or another hidden UI option i cant find

[molten hedge]

ik its just prepatch but any guess on stats i can try out with sub @potent pivot

im like full mastery rn but i think i need haste and crit right

[spring bough]

I’m convinced half these addon devs don’t go on ptr or beta. When it goes live is when they find out what broke and then they fix it lmao

[potent pivot]

It’s likely going to be like:
haste to threshold > vers > mastery/crit

A lot of your dmg is in your builders now so vers and crit are more valuable than before

Haste obviously you want for more dance etc

So it’s prolly gonna be a mix of all 4

[hexed blaze]

y cant i see CC on paltes

[spring bough]

I don’t think it’s working right lol

[hexed blaze]

as i typed it i found it . Go to Nameplates > Enemy NPC Buff/Debuff > toggle 'Shared CC'

[spring bough]

I think I had all that enabled. I’ll have to check tomorrow

[molten hedge]

Sub feels way way better than assa atm

imo

[potent pivot]

prepatch and tuning don't go together

[molten hedge]

sadly

[dense thorn]

What addons have we lost for PvP? I haven’t checked but assume we have lost allot?

[potent pivot]

OmniBar
OmniCC
OmniCD
bigdebuffs
details

i think those

maybe a couple more

[dense thorn]

Arena frames stuff?

[potent pivot]

battlegroundenemies for sure as well

i think arena frame addons are still fine

[sharp sierra]

I forgot i had a addon that lets me press 1 button to skip quest dialoge

[dense thorn]

Is PvP feeling better with addons gone? I’m hoping it has this magical effect that turns it into more moba style PvP lol

[sharp sierra]

which one you liking more?

[potent pivot]

[vocal surge]

Trickster

[spring bough]

FB feeling good. I’m not liking having to press KS. Builders into just BTE/dispatch feels good and doing pretty much the same dmg as trickster

Autos and MG for both are doing pretty high dmg

[vocal surge]

Counterargument
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/226359213427916800/1463386994154672290/image.png?ex=6971a4d7&is=69705357&hm=ed06f62f7c940598a83d3d8c932800ffd6c1e40cd1b95d7a4e078a15c3b355dc&

[spring bough]

Lmao cherry pick the one game where I didn’t do shit

[spring bough]

And u had 9 back to back BTEs? 🤔

[vocal surge]

remember when you told me to go hpal

and I did 1.9M and you did 1.2M?

[spring bough]

Healers all day 😭

[sharp sierra]

no gouge?!?!

[grave basin]

The bbp author tried his best

Hes in the same discord as the other big addon authors that have a direct channel to blizzard

Blizz ui devs basically told him to fuck off

When he raised pvp related concerns

It comes up alot during trille's stream

[potent pivot]

lol.......

[grave basin]

[grave basin]

Lets just say hes very demoralised

[potent pivot]

the people that make this game man

[grave basin]

Inherit* this game

[outer sky]

i kinda wondered for a while why blizzard didnt just purchase the rights to the addons people were already using and then add them to the game's base UI

[potent pivot]

because they have to create their own shit to justify paying people

[hollow carbon]

Would be too smart

[potent pivot]

would they even have to purchase them?

they're adoons for their IP

that the addons creaters aren't supposed to be allowed to charge money for

[outer sky]

thats even dumber then

[potent pivot]

addon devs did it for the love of the game ig

some of them charged money through a loophole

making the 'addon' itself free and charging money for custom profiles

or 'premium features' like restedXP

[severe helm]

they cant track buffs/drs/cast bars/cooldowns anymore though right?

so theres no enemy kick tracking now at all right? caster life is about to be pretty brutal

[potent pivot]

you can track drs

on arena frames

[severe helm]

oh nice! even from other players?

[potent pivot]

yes

sArena should be doing that

[severe helm]

nice thats good

I always liked gladiusex hopefully that one still works

[potent pivot]

to see buffs now i think you have to look at target frames

[severe helm]

but enemy kick cd im guessing is not there?

[potent pivot]

no cds

afaik

[severe helm]

casters will just have to like listen for kick sounds?

[potent pivot]

no idea

[severe helm]

rofl

[potent pivot]

i think kalv's was still a lil scuffed in this ss

it got updated

[dark moon]

How's the patch feeling, my friends on the other side of the pond?

[severe helm]

its somethin

[vocal surge]

How its b een

[grave basin]

I wonder if healer trinket is still 2mins instead of 1.5m on the default blizz tracker

[restive vessel]

I miss rupture? this new thing doesn't feel right

[outer sky]

Is that on beta or live? My sarena worked on beta but it doesnt on live

[potent pivot]

live

[outer sky]

Wtf

[potent pivot]

pretty sure

ye live

[outer sky]

Thats sarena right?

[potent pivot]

think so

[hidden moth]

Omni bar no work anymore?

[potent pivot]

nope

that is one of the ones that had its functionality removed entirely

[sharp sierra]

jesus christ i feel like everybody just blows me up before i even get a chance

[sterile field]

Definitely, sub gameplay is not looking good to me now

[restive vessel]

same here! It's dumbed down not as fun as it used to be but, getting used to it won't take long at all

[sterile field]

Idk, perma dance and no rupture feels awful, dance lost its excitement and strike evis spam will get old fast

Do addons like classicnumbers work or na?

[restive vessel]

Couldn't agree more, goes don't feel exciting now

[potent pivot]

i don't think so

[sterile field]

10 addons in the bin so far, oof

[sterile field]

Damn. Not a fan of the default one

[potent pivot]

ye i think all those types of addons are gone afaik

[sterile field]

also omnicc i like the red text on 5 sec remaining on cds 🙁

[potent pivot]

because they can't read the combatlog/special combat data anymore

[sterile field]

I see

actionbars addons should be ok?

[potent pivot]

MSBT is gone too

try uhh

'blizz scrolling combat text'

it says its updated for 12.0.0

[potent pivot]

cosmetic addons should be fine

anything that had to pull data from combatlog is gone

so like all the omni addons, bigdebuffs, etc

[sterile field]

bigdebuffs feels like the biggest loss for me, I know they're adding it in default ui but thats only nameplates I think?

[potent pivot]

[restive vessel]

Not seeing debuffs on enemy with blizzs default plater?

[potent pivot]

you have to enable them in game settings i think

[restive vessel]

Did

It's shared cc if anyone's dumb as I am this morning

[sterile field]

Its good that they added it but feels a bit bloated to have everything on nameplate, I did see a vid of aeghis from a month ago where he displayed CC on portraits in beta and he said he didn't have bigdebuffs on, so idk

[grave basin]

It doesnt show every spell

Like against paladins it shows wall but not bubble

Im pretty sure it doesnt show alter or blur either

[glass hazel]

ban addons we can do better

[true warren]

!ui

[lethal roost]

Rogue Guides:
WoWhead: https://www.wowhead.com/classes#rogue
Icy Veins: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/class-guides
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides

[potent pivot]

[true warren]

where can i find the DR settings and why is my personal resourse not showing up even tho it's enabled and visible in edit mode?

[potent pivot]

look at the ss posted a few messages up and idk, maybe some unupdated addons messing with it?

[true warren]

not working for me. i uninstalled every addon that wasn't updated to 12.x

both not working, resource bar and DR. also i don't see how long my CC is still active on the target

[true warren]

i mean it says "shared CC" only for enemy NPC and not player

[restive vessel]

enemy player / shared CC

[true warren]

yeah shared CC is only available for enemy NPC's and i just tried it in a duel

[dark moon]

how do we move the defensives from the blizzard cd manager?

when i hit edit, it doesnt get highlighted and cannot be moved

[hazy monolith]

where the fuck are my transmogs

[potent pivot]

gone forever

o7

[hazy monolith]

they are under "custom sets" but I have to spend gold in order to reapply what was transmogged before

thats so vile

[dark moon]

so we need to buy outfit slots then spend gold on saving the items

but its a net positive in the long run in terms of gold saving i guess

[restive vessel]

Your shiv is my stealth bind 😄

[hazy monolith]

I just added weapon illusions and that cost me 500g

[hazy monolith]

to change the weapon illusions for the outfit it costs 537g AGAIN

but switching the outfits after is free so yeah maybe it saves

[lime oar]

if you switch between sets often or just use saved sets ur netting a lot of gold you’d otherwise spend. if u constantly change and experiment with mog, ur cooked

[dark moon]

yeah that sucks. if i want to change something to the outfit then it costs a lot, so not sure about the cost savings

my old mogs that are now categorised as custom are costing almost 2k gold

which sucks cause i like to change my mog on a daily basis

just inflated gold sink for no reason

[lime oar]

they should just let u trial a mog for like 30 seconds lol, i dont always know if i like something until i mog it and run around for a bit

[static holly]

I want to buy a transmog system for this ugly login screen/char selection

I need to hide my hall of shame

*alliance chars

[dark moon]

same, but aint happening 😄

[indigo hill]

The new training grounds are terrible. You constantly get one shot by the npc's.

[potent pivot]

because they are likely tuned for midnight pvp gear

[dark moon]

any assa talents in the chat?

[potent pivot]

sec

[dark moon]

or is it bad

[indigo hill]

Yeah, then they need to add it when midnight is out. Not now. If a new players joins that, they will never pvp again.

[potent pivot]

its kinda rough, its prepatch. tuning does not exist right now.

you're just going to be getting globaled by Devourers regardless.

[potent pivot]

its the same thing that happened in TWW prepatch to comp stomp

and now there's a stat squish on top of not having the new pvp gear

[indigo hill]

I know and it was bad then as well. You'd think they learned something by now. 😄

[potent pivot]

well its a tough thing

either you tune it twice, or don't add it until expac drops

idk

[potent pivot]

try this but with tea

you can swap around the garrote talent anywhere

we are pretty envenom focused from the looks of it

[vocal surge]

Aye

Got my Elite title, fully conquest geared before season started

time to afk

[grave basin]

Does the elite title stay till prepatch is over?

How does that work

[vocal surge]

Im just joking about it

since my rating's greyed out

[grave basin]

but really how does it work

[dark moon]

nah

its for the current season

so its gone now

[vocal surge]

^

Greyed out rating doesn't give rewards anymore

So its temporary until season starts or before expansion starts

Then gets reset to 0

[restive vessel]

to play macabre or no with new talents

[potent pivot]

macabre and goremaw i think

don't think replicating shadows is worth

also why are you running the Shroud talent? lol

[dense void]

I just turned on personal resource bar.. and is ther for love of god an option I am missing to center the cp or will I go insane in midnight or until they make it possible

[stoic lava]

yea that shit is goofy haha

[hot ermine]

Anyone have link to new burst rotation for pre-patch sub?

[upbeat bear]

Hey anyone got some outlaw builds going?

[true warren]

is goremaw really worth it?

[vocal surge]

Trickster go brrr

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[potent pivot]

brother, what rotation?

sub is 2 buttons now

[true warren]

and do we play deepening shadows already? if yes, what's the stat priority?

[potent pivot]

yes tf its insane

stats are probably
haste to threshold > vers > crit/mastery

there's been no live testing, no tuning, etc

so

[true warren]

what's the threshold?

[potent pivot]

there's been no live testing, no tuning, etc

[dense void]

is there a way to show cps on enemy nameplate or not?

[potent pivot]

not that i'm aware of

try plater

[dense void]

so we are stuck with the goofy personal buff

[potent pivot]

if that doesn't work then prolly none

[potent pivot]

could be yep

[true warren]

better blizz plates has that setting

[potent pivot]

that isn't working ?

[spring bough]

Platynator might. Would check that one out too. There’s a whole customize nameplates section and u can add quite a few things

[potent pivot]

multiple people have told me it isn't

[hazy monolith]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1qiv0ah/minicc_bigdebuffs_reborn/ were getting a pseudo BigDebuffs

[hot ermine]

But which 2

[spring bough]

Last night better blizz plates needed some updates it was wrecked lol

[potent pivot]

shadowstrike -> eviscerate

[true warren]

yeah nevermind i meant better blizz frames and was confusing it with target frame

[spring bough]

Platynator should be able to do it unless it’s bugged

[true warren]

and any other way to show DR's? blizz setting for DR's is not working for me

[spring bough]

CC / DR duration wasn’t working with this last night even tho it’s got a section and I had it enabled in the blizzard settings

[spring bough]

The concussive shot logo is the CC/DR for platy

[dense void]

ye bbp has it too but prob just bugged rn I cannot really play now so I ll wait a bit if they fix it

everything is better then this abomination

[true warren]

platy?

[spring bough]

Yeah that screenshot I sents from Platynator nameplates

[dense void]

holy bbp is buggy rn every change oyu make reset instantly and when you go for duel it is always just unedited starting better blizz plates and you cannot see CC on the side KEKW

[spring bough]

Yeah nothing was working w it lol

[grave basin]

So i can finally play in 2 hours

Is there maintenance

[stoic spruce]

I'm just using blizzards UI. Been reading all the issues people seem to have and I'll have to pass on addons for now lol

[grave basin]

Please say it aint so

[restive vessel]

Sub is literally a tutorial spec rn

[true warren]

i assume there is no way to track enemy trinkets right?

[dark kernel]

Bless