pvp

[jaunty mirage]

Had a cursed one the other night that was like destro/frost mage/devoker

And double hpal lmao

[outer sky]

Yeah thats absolute aids

Ngl id probably be "going" the lock or devoker with my real win con in mind being making the hpal bubble then cloaking aggro to not get peeled and just kill him on forbearance

Vs the dev you can maybe kill him in a bomb but both the lock and mage can CC you in the bomb so its kind of a crap shoot

May also need to aggro cloak for that

I just had a really rough night of 3s queues

I feel like my lock refusing to voice is really fucking us

Like hes a really good player but I can just feel the lack of coordination

The other team is doing perfect cross CC and we're kinda just winging it

Granted 3 or 4 of our losses were to random DCs

I just feel like I should be glad by now and the fact that im not kind of irritates me

But again, no comms and playing with LFG healers

Idk im just rambling now

My motivation has been absolutely shot

Like in half these games I play im just consciously thinking "wtf is even the point of this?"

Especially when we're making it harder than it needs to be

And DCs are happening because its snowing and sleeting where i am

I think I may need to play deathstalker AoE build with this lock since he won't voice

Thats probably why glad with him felt easier the last 2 seasons than this season

This season I need some coordination to maximize my burst goes

The bleed build is a bit less reliant on that

At least into a lot of shit

Would probably still play fatebound into RMP or assa/boomie/pres

I think the thing that tilts me the most about the no voice thing is the inconsistency

Sometimes it feels like we cant win a game and other times we win 15 in a row with no trouble

Idk I think im just kind of fried in general

[jaunty mirage]

I went 2-4 which I counted as an absolute win and both my kills were one of each hpal

Locked one on holy and killed him with a mini KB go and the other I just spam garroted at 20% hp while the destro lit him up

Tbh the only melee lobby I’ve had where i had genuine trouble was some cursed arms war plus fury war

[jaunty mirage]

Well that and obviously the random sub or outlaw lobbies

[dark moon]

It's one of those lobbies

[stoic spruce]

If there are big outlaw changes tomorrow no one DM me

[indigo hill]

The catalyst charges is 8 per character or will more add once you've used them every 2 weeks up to 8?

[wanton breach]

you can use more than 8 catalyst charges per character but you won't be able to accumulate more than 8. So you will need to use some of the charges before you can get new ones

8 is just the maximum you can have on a character at a time, not maximum per season

[indigo hill]

Thats exactly what i needed to know, ty.

[wanton breach]

[wanton breach]

love a 20 minute queue for the healer to play like garbage and then to ragequit after 0-2

https://imgur.com/a/qcc3s7C

I need conquest and rating on my alts

[jolly sierra]

once i had a match w a loser mage

got one shotted and left

[lone jasper]

Thinking of best way to organize mykeybindings will kill me, i feel that 🥶

[jolly sierra]

ofc who was the dumbass who lose CR?

🐼 👈

[fathom crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/699642546833326150/1437808092518809641/image.png?ex=691496a2&is=69134522&hm=0ae8c0297046a6f493616922c3f76343b66b1aa8501654b170d98f6928e4da11&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

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cant wait for midnight bro

weekauras just playing for the players

[lone jasper]

@fathom crag hello, im very interested in your keybindings on sin rog. But they are hidden as usual. Your abilities that are twice, are they for focus target? 🙏

[gusty hedge]

[fathom crag]

depends which spell u talking about

if i got ccs 2x its normal + focus

for normal spells its just to fill the bars & see the CD better

[lone jasper]

Oh, now i see them! Thank you a lot

You push alt 2 on your keyboard?

[fathom crag]

yes

[true warren]

does sub try to line up darkest night with evisc finality? because it's kinda hard to do with the "best" rotation. if we assume we open with blades we would have to shadowstrike from stealth, rupture, sec tec, 2x evisc with the second being empowered by finality and darkest night. but we never open with shadowstrike to apply DS mark so it all gets messed up good or am i not seeing something

[spring bough]

https://x.com/peralexirl/status/1965504153054306453?s=46&t=YKaisWqFkCTf8y-DfuEaHw

Peralex ☄️ (@PeralexIRL)

I might be cooking up the best PvP addon to hit wow in the last decade.. bold statement but I’ll let the community back that up soon. Teaser shot for now (coming soon) really eager and excited to get this released.

X · Sep 9, 2025, 7:54 PM

Anyone checked this addon out?

It’s called Arena Core

[fathom crag]

good addon but will dissapear in midnight

[spring bough]

Hope some of it stays looks really good. Looks like the dev put a lot of time into it

[pliant lintel]

yes we open with shadow strike with 2 set you press rupture with 4 set you can evis then use your symbols to line up finality and the proc

obvs if something is going to CC you straight away just cheap shot them and don't worry about it

so 4 set would be something like strike > evis > cheap > symbols > tech > strike > big evis > cheap

just don't gap CC

[potent pivot]

it should just line up naturally, but it also isn't worth worrying about anymore to be real

all of sub's modifiers got nerfed pretty hard

like in s1 you'd rupture first during your burst to force DN to line up with finality evis, but this isn't really the case anymore

[lime oar]

beta should be available today right?

[stoic spruce]

Ye

[lime oar]

damn dont see the option for it yet

[potent pivot]

did you preorder the expac

[lime oar]

yee epic ed

think it starts in a few hours

[wanton breach]

there is a countdown on the bnet ´launcher

[stoic spruce]

do you have it?

cuz I dont

[potent pivot]

nah

i'll prolly buy it soon to test stuff dunno yet

[stoic spruce]

I have classic beta. idk what thats for

classic era

no contacts in rn

also did you see? The best change to Fury was never implemented

maybe it'll be there but not as a passive? Like its just a thing they can do.

idk

If I mained Fury this would be my Edmund Fitzgerald

[wanton breach]

probably few people want that, fury warrior go "me like big weapon" and it fell off the priority list

[stoic spruce]

they keep going back to it so obviously theres a market for it

they should just implement it

it wouldnt hurt anything doing so

blizz if youre here lurking

[fathom crag]

i love the war within

[stoic spruce]

the war is within the game and the battle is queue times

[dark moon]

Damn I leave queues after 15-20 minutes. 2 hours is just paying for not playing

[spring bough]

@gusty hedge @gleaming sentinel @vocal surge

PVP bout to be fun if this true

[gleaming sentinel]

Tldr

Oh prep

Sick!

[spring bough]

Prep coming back for outlaw 👀

4 minute cooldown

[gleaming sentinel]

As long as I have a clear win con, aka I can kill someone I’ll be happy

[spring bough]

This means we can vanish adrenaline go with fatebound in a stun. Reset it all. And get two bursts in one stun window

[vocal surge]

Interesting

[gleaming sentinel]

Kinda feel like we’d play subterfuge if that’s the case

[vocal surge]

Imagine popping prep

[spring bough]

Maybe not

[vocal surge]

to chain another BTE chain again lol

[spring bough]

All during a kidney lol

Rip like fucking 10+ coins in a row ontop 10+ BTEs

[vocal surge]

sadly Flawless form capped

otherwise imagine +20 stacks of Flawless Forms

[gleaming sentinel]

Brrrrrrrttt

[spring bough]

Yeah it’s a FATEBOUND xpack so far

[vocal surge]

Yeeee

[spring bough]

End TWW as fatebound and begin midnight as it 😭

[vocal surge]

Fatebound - Fatebound - Fatebound

Trickster suffering from lack of robustness

[spring bough]

Outlaw got aura buffed too

[vocal surge]

How much?

[vocal surge]

Sheesh

[true warren]

this is subterfuge built right?

[pliant lintel]

yea doesn't really matter

i actually run subterfuge now over tea sub does 0 damage so better to have more control

[true warren]

i feel you besides it's on CD anyway. the 200 energy feels nice tho

[sharp sierra]

I think I’m gonna stick rogue/mage this expac

[pliant lintel]

the energy doesn't matter for sub, you don't do anything outside of dance and during dance you won't energy starve anyway

[potent pivot]

oh shit boys

[spring bough]

That shit BETTER be on restless

If it’s not on restless I don’t want it lol

[vocal surge]

What you mean?

[stoic spruce]

It'd line up with nothing

[potent pivot]

bro it needs to be on the rogue tree tf u mean

[vocal surge]

That's the holy grail for Outlaw

[spring bough]

I want that prep cool down to go from 4min to 1.5min with some good finishers lol

[vocal surge]

Lol

[spring bough]

Probably replaced take em

[vocal surge]

Then we'd be back to Dragonflight all over again

And TWW near 80% AR uptime

And lose all the aura buffs we just got

[stoic spruce]

95% now

[spring bough]

Prep either gonna be really busted for outlaw or just okay lol

[vocal surge]

Itd be 98% rn but thinking what's the potential for Prep + AR Restless Blades CDR

[stoic spruce]

Well you wouldn't adr into an instant prep because that's a lot of cdr you're wasting

[spring bough]

Over 50% uptime if prep is on restless

[spring bough]

But u also wouldn’t prep when adr is like 60 seconds or less from CD. There’s def gonna be some crazy rules and we gonna have to watch multiple CDs remaining time for optimal Prep presses

[stoic spruce]

For sure

[spring bough]

Blizz wanted less tracking and prep gonna add more tracking

Fuck lol

[stoic spruce]

I can imagine we do it when both KS and Adr are on CD

cocked, locked, and ready to rock

oorah

[potent pivot]

ik

i'm saying it NEEDS to be on the rogue tree

[stoic spruce]

go go go go go

[spring bough]

Lmk how it is. I haven’t spent the extra $40 yet lol

[spring bough]

Prep went from OG sub ability to now outlaws. Get rekt 😂

[stoic spruce]

yall make way for an OG

[potent pivot]

i will awang you sir

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

Tf did I do 😂

[stoic spruce]

oh dude I should try legion remix

[spring bough]

Yes it’s fun

[stoic spruce]

its a joke

[spring bough]

Got my rogue fully exalted with all legion reps ready for a new main rogue in midnight

[stoic spruce]

eyes are melting

HURRY UP

[fathom crag]

we cant play lvl 90?

[stoic spruce]

I am making one rogue and one DK

[fathom crag]

whats the point of the beta

if we have to lvl up

lol

[potent pivot]

iirc thats how the last beta was at first as well

[fringe barn]

ayo delete this before someone sees it and removes it

[potent pivot]

first batch of testing is the leveling and questing content etc

[spring bough]

So they get more sub days out of us 😂

[spring bough]

[stoic spruce]

autos were hitting for nothing in alpha

[vocal surge]

^

[sharp sierra]

Bro it’s just stuck on retrieving character list

[stoic spruce]

Yeah I gave up

Nap time

[fringe barn]

https://i.imgur.com/9NGH6CI.png

o

[potent pivot]

tuning you see this early on is sorta meaningless

with a stat squish n stuff like that the balancing was way out of whack

[hidden moth]

kekw'

[wanton breach]

numbers don't matter on alpha/beta

design does

[hidden moth]

Clear the Witnesses has been updated – Fan of Knives/Shuriken Storm damage increased by 50%.
Corrupt the Blood has been updated – Rupture damage increased by 10%.
Bait and Switch now causes Evasion to reduce magical damage taken by 15% (was 20%)

kekw

[hidden moth]

depends on number

15% dr and not 20% from bait n switch

kinda cringe

also rip clear witnes proc i will miss u

[wanton breach]

numbers tuning is more susceptible to change than design changes

[hidden moth]

Venomous Vim grants 3 Energy when it triggers (was 4).

ight

first 8 to 4

then 4-3

while it doesnt do shit in aoe

... ur fucking me right blizz?

Developers’ notes: Our goal for Assassination’s rotation is to reward players for pooling enough Energy to string together several Envenoms without letting the effect drop. Energy generation was high enough that Envenom could be maintained longer than intended, so we’ve reduced the Energy generation rate of some Assassination abilities to reward deliberate planning.

cool

so like

where am i able to fucking pool energy in pvp

[wanton breach]

baseline energy regen was amped up

[hidden moth]

they nerfed that 21

[wanton breach]

while you sit in CC

[hidden moth]

was 30% now 20% energy gain from vicious venoms reduced to 3 from 4 per tick AND NERFED ON THE FUCKING REGEN FROM APEX TALENT

WTAF

[wanton breach]

no need to panic

[hidden moth]

sure but

when am i ever going to be able to

mut mut

envenom

mut mut ....

auto

auto

auto

auto

auto

auto

auto

envenom buff about to fall

envenom

mut

mut

auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto auto

in a game where the "abc's" is always be casting

making a spec just

stand there and play classic ret pala

is abysmal

[fathom crag]

im doing some duels as assa on the beta

it does negative damage so far

close to lose to my friend warrior full green

[spring bough]

😭

[potent pivot]

bruh

[bitter charm]

Hey, I'm new to PvP playing assa Rogue. I'm maybe the worst player in PvP you ever seen. How can I get started? 😄

727 PvP Itemlevel

[spring bough]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/s/ZnPYgWZdAe

I love to see ret fail

[hidden moth]

valid crash out, but yes spammy, i kept it mild ❤️

[potent pivot]

i don't even think its valid ngl

[hidden moth]

do some games for conq/ farm conq boxes get crafted neck+ rings and ur free weps once u have earned a total of 2500 conq

[hidden moth]

must have constant button to press. sitting and watching autos not enough apm for adhd brain

[bitter charm]

Yes, that's where I stand atm

[hidden moth]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/topgear

ideal gear copied from whazz

[bitter charm]

Dont get it or id doesnt work

[hidden moth]

gems mast/vers crafted items are vers mast (helm is pure mast)

[lime oar]

record a lil clip for us

[hybrid palm]

Can evoker dispel rupture with dark brew talented ?

[waxen meteor]

is it for live for 12.0

[hidden moth]

for beta yes

[gleaming sentinel]

no dispels, not much i can do in that lob

[molten hedge]

yea everyone just let me do my thing until that last round then i died lol

[gleaming sentinel]

shrug

[stoic spruce]

They said they're heavily focusing on tuning in beta so it kinda does >.>

[grave basin]

bois hows beta

are there template toons yet

[grave basin]

putting more damage into autos means more dependacy on uptime which is stupid for pvp

😔

[wanton breach]

yes there are, lvl 80

[grave basin]

bruh we want max level toons

with pvp gear

that's not out yet?

[wanton breach]

dunno if I chose the wrong server

[grave basin]

thats weird, tww beta had max level toons for testing day 1

[wanton breach]

no clue, didn't see any but I also didnt have too much time, only looked at sub and outlaw very briefly and demo lock

[potent pivot]

You sure about that

I thought it didn’t

[grave basin]

should be? i was dueling in elwyn pretty early

not elwyn, the westfall area

[potent pivot]

Also apparently autos were doing zero dam on alpha

[stoic spruce]

Outlaw is fire

We're so back

[grave basin]

zero as in low or zero as in 0

[potent pivot]

zero as in extremely low

like

[stoic spruce]

Extremely low is an understatement

[potent pivot]

you can't compare these buffs to the war within numbers at all

[grave basin]

you sure about that

[potent pivot]

because alpha numbers were wildly different from TWW numbers

[stoic spruce]

Yeah

[potent pivot]

getting a stat squish and everything changes up a lot

[grave basin]

man i need to buy the epic edition

the fomo is stronk

[stoic spruce]

Dont

Beta barely works lol

Or do it. I'm not your dad

[grave basin]

i was browsing the forums and i can see peopel complaining

that they cant even log in

[stoic spruce]

It took me about an hour to do 3 quests

[potent pivot]

i'm kinda surprised they aren't squishing us back to lvl 60 again like SL

we're getting all the other stuff squished except level lol

[stoic spruce]

We're going back to 120 again baby wooooooo

[grave basin]

i saw some people testing at max level in greens and theyre already hitting 100k+

in alpha p6

should be squished much harder

end of midnight we're back to close to 1m hits again

[stoic spruce]

Meanwhile some specs were having trouble killing quest mobs

[grave basin]

hell i saw a ww monk use slicing winds at LEVEL 80 with full greens

and it crit for 35k

at lvl 80 in greens

10k should be a nuclear crit if theyre gonna squish

[stoic spruce]

Ww crits for a lot

More at 11

No but alpha is different

[grave basin]

slicing winds* crits for a lot

[stoic spruce]

I think now that beta is here and blizz wants to use beta explicitly for balance, I think we can expect class tuning and not so much actual changes.

[grave basin]

fire mages in shambles

[stoic spruce]

theyll still be OP dw

[grave basin]

well yea you could have a button that does 1 billion damage and is OP

but that's boring af

[stoic spruce]

you think mage cares?

Mage plays rmp and boasts when they get glad

[grave basin]

im sure rogues are humble and down to earth

and never teabag and flag people

[stoic spruce]

lol

this guy

[potent pivot]

you guys do that stuff?

ruuuuuuude

[grave basin]

above such brutality, dumbledore?

[gleaming sentinel]

I’ve done the drustvar knife sacrifice once or 9 times

Teabag is lame

[stoic spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/head-bop-good-vibes-vibes-vibing-chill-guy-gif-15626491521296335861

indoor music of your house SLAPS

[wanton breach]

do the new toys like remembrance stone work in pvp instances on hostile targets?

[grave basin]

i have no idea

but flagging is peak undead rogue/hum female behaviour

[jolly sierra]

there is a toy which in proc turns ppl in stone

idk if it works in pvp

[grave basin]

pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[potent pivot]

[gleaming sentinel]

AFK for a week and 3-3 ez

[grave basin]

aaaaaaaah

[grave basin]

guess who this is

[gleaming sentinel]

Idk

[grave basin]

tfw you have 7 mages

[jolly sierra]

new season requieres new main class chars

[spring bough]

Really?

[stoic spruce]

yeah

energy managment is back so thats good

and theres actually enough energy

[river pollen]

Anyone been able to test sub rogue in the beta? They were some very negative videos about the whole haste thing ruining sub like a month ago so I got a bit worried

[potent pivot]

they changed the haste thing slightly

so that instead of dance CDR being hasted, its now dance duration

it being hasted CDR made things not line up properly and just made it all funky

not sure if the vids you saw were about that or not

[river pollen]

Ohhh I see

What about the cdr from spending combo points, will that be removed?

For dance

[potent pivot]

yep

[grave basin]

what is this mayne...

[stoic spruce]

Your subscription money at work

[grave basin]

:^)

the destro rage quit

[hidden moth]

https://www.youtube.com/live/JWMoJBMfyiE?si=M7eM8MDHqITkWv30

Bless big debuffs still works

[hidden moth]

On god bro

Rogue is hit n run

Not

Hit and chase and chase and chase I’m not a fucking warrior

[sharp sierra]

Are the servers still dookie? All last night there was a 5 second delay and that shit was annoying me

[spring bough]

Check back Tuesday lol

[sharp sierra]

How are you guys playing like that man 😭😭😭😭

[wanton breach]

damn, nahj is even more sub rogue jesus now with the longer hair

[wanton breach]

hope you specced out of disarm for that lobby

or maybe that was the reason why he rq

[vocal surge]

yo

they removed CC immunity from Celestial Conduit

[wanton breach]

nice, that ability is not fun to play against

like a better version of bladestorm

[spring bough]

Good fuck monks

[vocal surge]

1000%

[molten hedge]

@grave basin How’s warr feel in shuffle I was gonna hear mine. I figure wit all the casters it may not feel the best

With all the mages and huntresses

[potent pivot]

where are you seeing that?

[spring bough]

Looks like Nahj may have been using it when streaming beta

[potent pivot]

i didn't see it in the beta matches

he swapped to doing live matches at some point in that vod i think

[wanton breach]

how is destrolock a spec in pvp

that is just disgusting

you can play so poorly but if you get a single chaos bolt cast off someone might be dead on the enemy team

[molten hedge]

Queue me last night. I got 100-0d in 0.1 by the mm

[wanton breach]

completely normal dmg

[molten hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-disappear-vanish-gif-9727828

[molten hedge]

I should’ve reacted sooner

[wanton breach]

[hidden moth]

On nahj ui

1:53:06

[potent pivot]

i'm pretty positive thats live

there's WeakAuras and no big bug report button

[hidden moth]

I can’t see the whole vid on break and signal too shit to watch it fully fully

Assumed it was beta since he said “beta pvp” kekw

[potent pivot]

no worries i feel that

i think he was mostly playing beta while waiting for queues n stuff

he did some beta skirms and the ui was pretty barebones

[static holly]

Is that only default UI without add-ons? Sexy af

Im lazy and play with anything 🤣

[languid ravine]

fresh char, I ve queued for 80 minutes and played for 2 minutes today :^)

[hidden moth]

No lol that’s live with hella addons

[spring bough]

Welcome to PVP hit or miss lol

[vocal surge]

Slammed a +52 key

Friend was yelling at me for dying a lot in Cathedral of Eternal Night lol

Had him tank a +45 Darkheart and he was dying left n right

And between Cathedral of Eternal Night and DHT, Cathedral was leagues harder

Man immediately gave back the tank role after the key lol

[spring bough]

https://x.com/evokerlord22/status/1988678430083428362?s=46&t=YKaisWqFkCTf8y-DfuEaHw

Don (@evokerlord22)

The new TBC pre purchase mount is so stupid and is literally a gladiator mount knock off.

Part of the reason that mount was ever cool was it was the only way to get an armored nether drake. Blizzard knows what they are doing and tying money to it is a disgrace tbh.

X · Nov 12, 2025, 6:41 PM

Can’t wait to buy my knock off glad mount replica

[vocal surge]

Wow wotlk anniversary gonna be the armored frostwyrms lol

[jolly sierra]

second chance

good shit

glad i got a job, that will be a safe purchase lol

[spring bough]

Please tell me it’ll be available on retail as well 🙏

[vocal surge]

It is

[fringe barn]

this is fire

[crimson cape]

Kings bane before DM or after?

[spring bough]

solo shuffle been absolute dog lately....

[spring bough]

shiv/tea, DM, KB, CB, envenom

[gleaming sentinel]

I’ve gone 6-0, 0-6 so many times this week lo

[spring bough]

guess im just dog lately

how is this blitz real life right now....

my team is alliance BTW

im capping ruins and shrine back to back uninterrupted lol

[wet crown]

they'll still kick the shit out of us probably

[spring bough]

im in a double MW monk lobby and both go 3-3... hmmmmm

[vocal surge]

Outlaw changes getting positive reception outside this discord lol

[hybrid sapphire]

pls tell me what to do vs DHs in shuffle

im pulling my hair out

[gleaming sentinel]

can only kill them in kidneys, so can do kidney goes on them or just kill their team mate

[hybrid sapphire]

oh fuck you just reminded me i used to do that all the time -- youre right. kidney into them when poss

ty

[hidden moth]

dm shiv/tea kb cb venom

but the first 2 gcds kinda the same so shrug

[hybrid sapphire]

ive fallen 300 rating in 2 weeks im gonna ************

[spring bough]

time to gear an alt rogue and que on that lol

[hybrid sapphire]

i think id only have the same problems....

[dark kernel]

im just now starting to push shuffle

uhg

[stoic spruce]

I wear my 1200 rating like a badge of honor

[frank ravine]

anyone worked out some decent looking assa builds for midnight?

[potent pivot]

way too early for that really

[stoic spruce]

We may be in the tuning phase but there's still a chance for talent changes and such.

[potent pivot]

yep

rn is just the time to mess around and try a bunch of different stuff

[stoic spruce]

Unless you're outlaw. It's going out exactly how it is now. #doom

[outer sky]

im installing the Midnight Beta rn

How do i make a level 90 toon off the rip

[stoic spruce]

Cant

Gotta level

[outer sky]

Bullshit

[stoic spruce]

If I could do that I wouldn't have spent 2 hours doing half of the laggy af intro questline

[outer sky]

for the TWW beta there was a server you could make a character on and it would be insta 80

[potent pivot]

from day 1 of it?

i coulda swore the first week or two was leveling only but idk

[outer sky]

oh idk

well I could make a level 80

Arite well in that case I guess I'm waiting a few weeks

[static holly]

It is always like this. First you have to lvl and later in beta you get template chars at max lvl

Rogue seems pretty buggy and unfinished

[outer sky]

like on the beta or are you talking about live? Could be either

[static holly]

Beta

[wet crown]

I'm ready to watch healers explode in two months from trying to dispel 5 ua stacks

[tight hill]

how tf do people play sub rogue in shuffle. I am losing my mind staring at DR trackers. One binding shot can lose me a round

[dark moon]

Higher mmr(not that it's set in stone) and very good game reading.

And still can go south if there's a pepega on your team

[tight hill]

I don't think i've ever been so tilted in a comp game by people resetting DRs lol

gotta git gud i guess

[dark moon]

It's very tilting, yes

But patience is key. There are sub rogues on high rating, mostly otps, which shows its possible

[abstract stratus]

@tight hill my favorite is the dh who imps the kt every go or the monk who paras the kt and is confused why they never die

[gleaming sentinel]

One of my subs is 2374, those matches are so much better than the ones at 2100

The amount of games where I sit my full dance in a dispellable cc or my team mate just dr’ing randomly

It’s insane

Can’t peel or do a go, becuase it’s just piss cc everywhere

[tight hill]

ah yes storm bolt the already stunned target

7 second stun dr left on heal? better piss cc

I think i just turn DR tracker off for sanity

[gleaming sentinel]

Actual bots

The best is the fucking not needed random ass binding shot

[true warren]

where did you put your target arena macros?

right now i use a 12 button mouse with 1-12, shift 1-12, ctrl 1-12 and, where all my target macros are, alt 1-12

i feel like quite the piano player quickly tapping between alt 1 (for arena 1), shift 2 (for small burst) and 5 for cheap shot

[gleaming sentinel]

I just tab and have a couple focus macros personally

[tight hill]

do you have everything on mouse?

lots of free keys if so 👀

i use keyboard 123 for target, shift for focus then other modifiers for CC basically

but also tab target and focus macros mostly, just handy for when you need to blind off target or something

[gleaming sentinel]

I use a 20 dollar Walmart mouse

Maybe even 15 bucks

[tight hill]

that's the secret eh

[gleaming sentinel]

Well I’m not very good so don’t listen to me

[stoic spruce]

Ahhh the pvp channel

Where positivity is

[spring bough]

What positivity

[stoic spruce]

You get beta?

[spring bough]

Not yet will probably next week

[true warren]

no Q, E and F are used too. can't reach other keys comfortably

[vocal surge]

Outlaw stronk in Beta

[grave basin]

feels like ASS

every lobby is mm hunter destro hpal good luck touching anything

melee in general feels really bad this season

[dark moon]

That's how I'd imagine it would be 50% o the time

[vocal surge]

Compared to all the specs I fought

Warlocks are absolutely busted in Midnight Beta lol

Like the CCs rn in Retail are chump change to the CCs and Mobility they have in Midnight

[wanton breach]

demo with double interrupt or interruptstun + singe magic

[vocal surge]

Yee

[wanton breach]

lets see if it goes to retail like that

they adress some pve issues and giga buff pvp by proxy

[true warren]

did some skirmish today and had a 1v1 situation with a fire mage. didn't touch shit. saved all me steps exclusively when he blinks and i'm in dance but nope. thought that'S just unfair lmao

[keen canopy]

hey look at it this way, it could've been an arcane or a frost mage

[true warren]

can someone explain how that chaos bolt hit through cloak?

[outer sky]

If the cast had already finished before you pressed cloak then it can hit through it. Its not supposed to. Its kind of a bugged interaction. Maybe 5% of the time it'll go through

[true warren]

got lucky then. wow, didn't knew that. good thing i wasted cloak + vanish for nothing there

[vocal surge]

Devourer so busted on Beta lol

almost insta Metamorphosis

[lime oar]

https://youtu.be/HjTTSGS7M0w?si=xy2YmHen5Pcrcklp

bro if you’re in here, stop makin us look bad

[grave basin]

any rogue streaming beta

that isnt nahj

[lime oar]

i haven’t seen any others. i think we’re cooked until the servers open up with insta lvl 90s. then we’ll start seeing more fun duels and trying out builds

[vocal surge]

Thats a Combatant Outlaw rogue tryna fight a Gladiator lmao

[jolly sierra]

i am in the bus

wtf did the sniper?

[lime oar]

yeah and yk he’s raging so he keeps coming back

[dark moon]

Whoa, woah

[hidden moth]

Can’t you meld/ vanish it while it’s mid air though

[hidden moth]

Gonna be sick

Dw lads I’ll get beta Friday

And obs some shit put on YouTube or sum for yall

[outer sky]

Meld yes vanish it'll still hit you

[lime oar]

thank u for ur service cuz im way too lazy to lvl.

[fresh ermine]

black ops 7

tmrw

[spring bough]

None whatsoever

[jaunty mirage]

Think destro is my second least favorite thing to see in a lobby at this point

A good destro lock with heals that know how to play with them is kind of a nightmare

[dark kernel]

Games are micro transaction HELL. I had no idea

I bought the last Modern warfare and my god, you just log in and every game is just battle pass shit

[fresh ermine]

lol

I played cod before all that shit

[dark kernel]

Well that's what I'm saying the last cod I had played was MW2

So I got the last new one because it had the old maps

[fresh ermine]

haven't owned a call of duty in years probbaly over 10

[dark kernel]

And dude I was just overwhelmed

[fresh ermine]

yeah

I bought black ops 4 with blizzard bucks

but my internet wasn't compatible with it or something

I would lag out every game

played black ops 6 free week though like a month ago and had fun

[lime oar]

they release a new game every single october november. it’s boring and exhausting and they’re all garbage. the last good one was MW 2019 before they started releasing cat ears and lizzo skins

[fringe barn]

watching this makes me want to play warrior but ik its just cause this rogue has no idea whats going on

[hidden moth]

P sure there is lvl 90 template toons

Did you do blitz on that toon last season? And or what rating was your all time account high?

[lime oar]

warr is always my alt. turn brain off and play spec

[lime oar]

there’s not yet. only lvl 80.

[wet crown]

aff is gonna be a menace lol

[dark kernel]

I hate all 5 point maps on blitz.

[vocal surge]

And shrine

[spring bough]

Nerf lock already

Blizz has had a hardon for lock since TBC and I’m so fucking sick of it

No more cloak capped wrecked our dominance

[wet crown]

nah, leave them

someone has to kill the paladins

actually

do paladins still have the thing that auto dispels from judgement or w/e?

[spring bough]

Not sure

[hidden moth]

sitting nodes and capping it as rogue

is fun

stealing a node as its about to turn over and lock from a warlock

via saping him blinding his pet

is great 2

[vocal surge]

xD

[spring bough]

https://x.com/bigmoranx/status/1989038837037953317?s=46&t=YKaisWqFkCTf8y-DfuEaHw

Bigmoran (@Bigmoranx)

Shadowlands nostalgia needs to be studied.

You have to be sick in order to love this expansion.

X · Nov 13, 2025, 6:33 PM

@stoic spruce thoughts?

[gleaming sentinel]

[vocal surge]

Peak blacksmith

[sharp sierra]

Okay today there will not be a 5 second delay and I will get past the first two quests

[wet crown]

i fucking called this.

Genuinely need to permaban these mentally deranged people lol

[spring bough]

Damn where @stoic spruce at

[fringe barn]

the idea of shadowlands was cool

[vocal surge]

Nathria was peak

[vocal surge]

Sap and Distract takes us out of stealth

in Midnight Beta

Conq Jewelry gets to have 1 socket already

[stoic spruce]

SL had thr best class design to date

The gameplay was top tier but overshadowed by the worst gates to borrowed power blizz had ever done.

[lime oar]

torghast

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-gif-19730757

[stoic spruce]

Torghast was also really good but people hated it because you were forced to do it

[stoic spruce]

Punk

Fight me

It's still my favorite expac

[gleaming sentinel]

SL was awesome idc

[stoic spruce]

I liked it when it was current content

I ain't saying it was perfect obv

Had it launched with the QoL updates as S4 sheeeeeit it might very well be close to perfect

[dark kernel]

Everyone loves the xpac when you were locked inside 24/7

Shadowlands was dog ass but even when the expansions are bad there's something redeemable.

[gleaming sentinel]

Only expac I remember hating was BFA, simply becuase of azerite gear

Otherwise that expac woulda been sweet

[wet crown]

maybe blizzard is right for neglecting this class

[formal pebble]

Shadowlands was great as a person who played a single character only

[spring bough]

Wait sap reverted to vanilla sap where it takes us out of stealth?!?!?

So we shouldn’t even open with sap then is what I’m hearing?

[molten hedge]

It’s prob just a bug lol. If it were true, saps still a diff DR so it’d still be worth it with most comps, but I doubt that’s real

[potent pivot]

When it comes to pvp gameplay SL was pretty damn good for the majority of the time

[gleaming sentinel]

[potent pivot]

People look back on it as bad because of Torghast, covenants being locked and how long the expansion dragged on

Those are all valid complaints

But when it comes to the best pvp gameplay in recent years, it’s got some of the best times hands down

[gleaming sentinel]

(Pvers had to PvP)

[hidden moth]

It was dog shit lol

Wow isn’t a rouge lite

[jaunty mirage]

SL just like a lot of expansions was 10x better by the end after QoL adjustments but people always remember the worst parts of an expansion

At least for modern expansions

[stoic spruce]

This is bait right?

[spring bough]

Take it

[gleaming sentinel]

I was a Torghast enjoyer

[spring bough]

Stealth right to the end everytime 😂

Got my stuff I needed then never did torghast again lol

[stoic spruce]

I might lol

Delves are more roguelite than torghast because you actually keep your upgrades between runs

[spring bough]

Can someone explain rogue lite like I’m five

[gleaming sentinel]

Veilstrider title is my go to when grinding for elite

[jaunty mirage]

Dungeon crawler

[wet crown]

what was? Season 1 was one of the biggest meme seasons since this one, and I don't remember season 2 being that good. I didn't even bother pvping s3 onwards

[stoic spruce]

Season 2 was goated are you insane?

[wet crown]

I genuinely don't remember much about it.

[stoic spruce]

It was a long time ago

[wet crown]

like the most memorable part of SL pvp

is how fucked s1 was

how comically just stupid that entire tier was

[stoic spruce]

Nah it was S2 before everyone learned how busted outlaw was

[potent pivot]

Idk I just don’t agree with that

[stoic spruce]

Trickz imma be honest

[potent pivot]

SL was pre cc nerfs and all this micro cc bs

[stoic spruce]

I lowkey miss having mando dailies

[gleaming sentinel]

[stoic spruce]

I know I know

[potent pivot]

I hated torghast n shit as much as the next guy

[stoic spruce]

The first one of the week was always fun

The other 9 not so much

[spring bough]

I miss my weekly pvp vault

[stoic spruce]

Yeah I don't like this new system

[spring bough]

Hero level gear over duelist from the vault carried me in SL for pve gear 😂

[hidden moth]

The roguelite genre is a subgenre of the roguelike genre that has gained popularity in recent years. Unlike traditional roguelikes, which feature permadeath and procedurally generated maps, roguelites often include elements such as carry-over progression, which allows players to retain some of their game state from previous runs. This can include resources, items, or even character upgrades that can be used in subsequent attempts. Roguelites aim to provide a more forgiving and accessible experience for players, making them more accessible to a broader audience compared to the hardcore nature of roguelikes.

only way its a "roguelite" is if u count hard core for perma death but even then

there isnt anything in wow that is roguelite outside of one off bullshit things like tourghast

[stoic spruce]

I know what a roguelite is

[hidden moth]

if i wanted to play a rougelite i would play risk of rain 2 not " World of warcraft: Retcon"

[stoic spruce]

So you're saying that because wow isn't a roguelite, it's can't have a side mode that has roguelite qualities?

[hidden moth]

no no, im saying bc wow isnt a roguelite it shouldnt try to be something its not

[stoic spruce]

It's not

It was one mode for one expansion

[hidden moth]

ye

one dawgshit mode

[stoic spruce]

It wasnt

[hidden moth]

that lasted one expac bc community hated it

bc again, if i wanted to play a roguelite i would play one

[stoic spruce]

Because they were forced to do it many many times

[hidden moth]

dog shit and forced dog shit is still dog shit at the end of the day

[stoic spruce]

What exactly was wrong with it at the end?

[hidden moth]

clunkyness of it, how stale all the rooms where

bc even though its "random" they only had 3 templates to go off of

so no real variety

[stoic spruce]

Staleness is fair but clunky is wild

[hidden moth]

u cant tell me it wasnt clunky with how laggy it was in that bitch.

[stoic spruce]

For like, half of season 1 sure

[hidden moth]

Half of season 1 was a year long

[stoic spruce]

Not even half then

[hidden moth]

I kid

Half of season one was like 6 months

Either way

Why play Overwatch 2 when I could play marvel rivals

[spring bough]

Delves are just repackaged torghast

[hidden moth]

Without the clunky ass shit rng for buffs that didn’t do shit

/ were unoriginal

And at least delves have more variance than room plan a or b

[stoic spruce]

Delves wish they were half as fun

I want to be OP

[hidden moth]

U mean
“Delves induce suicidal tendencies at 25% the rate as thorghast”*

[stoic spruce]

If it gets less haters then yeah

[spring bough]

Mostly what I remember from torghast was stealthing to the last levels. Skipping 99% of it and getting my legos and leaving

[stoic spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/the-suite-life-on-deck-way-to-go-guys-lets-shoot-for-40-zack-martin-40-fourty-gif-10938260552942460588

[hidden moth]

Yeah I can’t name a single person ik that was in thorghast for longer than just get leggo and dip

[gleaming sentinel]

i did every single torghast achievement lol

[stoic spruce]

I did for the chievos and mogs

And for fun

[gleaming sentinel]

convoke moonkin was so fun in there

get it down to like 20s cd and just blow eerything up

[stoic spruce]

Popping adr gave vendetta and that sub ability

Idr

[spring bough]

Yeah shadow blades right that was fun as fuck

[stoic spruce]

No shadowblades is their better dreadblades

Icr what it was

It wasn't shadow dance I don't think

[spring bough]

What borrowed power armor are we getting S1 of midnight do we know

[stoic spruce]

No

[lime oar]

ain’t no way u were stealthing ur way through.

boss would clap you hard and put u away wet

[vocal surge]

That's how I did my Torghast runs back in SL

Skip trash, kill rares, and final boss

[spring bough]

Every damn time lol

[vocal surge]

Btw, assa is nasty on Beta

Slow af energy regen

Feels like +15s to pool

Before unloading

[spring bough]

I’m probably gonna play sin more this xpack

[vocal surge]

And its already time to refresh bleeds

[spring bough]

50/50 split maybe outlaw and sin got more than enough rogues to do it lol

[stoic spruce]

I've been trying to think of a way to word it

But

Midnight feels like if an older version of wow was made in a modern way

[vocal surge]

There's a few things that needs work on Midnight

Hidden Opportunity pumps

Only thing is FTH overcap

Fits better once your out of Subterfuge

The -5s CD on BTE needs more emphasis on how good it actually is

KIR needs changes

And after that, all our capstones are rounded out

[stoic spruce]

Why are you running subterfuge?

[vocal surge]

To deal with Sap and Distract breaking stealth

[stoic spruce]

That can't be intended

Did you report it?

[fathom crag]

SL was so good

wild take to say it was bad 😂

[stoic spruce]

The flaws it had were significant though, you can't ignore that part.

[lime oar]

silvermoon city is a vibe gotta admit

[lime oar]

i’m looking the nameplate customization in terms of buff/debuff and cc placement.

in beta

but i can’t get the dr tracker to work.

[sick moth]

I did the crate farming for full conquest gear just to get slapped in rated arena…. Coming back to rogue after 7 years. This is rough lol

[dark moon]

Gear won't matter at all in your case. Gotta awake the ninja reflexes

Out of curiosity, how much time it took to farm full conq gear with crates?

[midnight grove]

its pretty fast 60 conq per pop if you use addons you hop zone to zone

[wanton breach]

enemy mage dc'd that round, then I get flamed by this baguette who didn't heal in 7 seconds

losing to a singular ret

healer wasn't even in any kind of CC

2.1k mmr but flames like 2.7

[dark moon]

Dumb cnts are usually the loudest

Respectfully ofc

[wanton breach]

I waited 45 minutes for my first bg blitz in over a year and I already feel like cobaining myself

[jolly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/elves-chad-dwarf-gif-25266189

[stoic spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/elves-chad-dwarf-gif-25266189

[wanton breach]

he was runnign around with it for 10 minutes

[jolly sierra]

say he have to give it to the enemy and he win

[wanton breach]

i mean the enemy won, we were alliance

i love bg blitz , best 2 hours of my life

[jolly sierra]

relax, that doesnt matters, even good ones get big Ls on blitz oof

[verbal field]

what. the fuck

[vocal surge]

Lol

I showed this set to my sister

And she said this is a druid set

And when I told her its a rogue set, she was in disbelief

[spring bough]

Is so shit lol

First set since SL I don’t want lol

[lone jasper]

That’s Awful

It looks like how you start wow at lvl 1

[dark kernel]

Actually crazy if true that our elite set is the shitty one

Probably worst one since BFA?

[stoic spruce]

Low fantasy mog to fit our low fantasy class

[spring bough]

They repurposed season 1 DF gloves for us

And then the shoulders is just from tier 4 TBC

What a bunch of reused garbage that 99% of rogues never gonna mog

[dark kernel]

The shoulders just look like the DF S2 set too kinda

The shredder set

[stoic spruce]

I got them kultiran leather mogs and I am set for life tbh lol

[stoic spruce]

That was a good one

I liked the mask

[jolly sierra]

wtf, is that an elite?

fuck

[stoic spruce]

I didn't get the elite set on my rogue that season, got it on my dk and I played a different game.

[spring bough]

Shredder all white set with the shoulder smoke best set we have had in ages

[vocal surge]

Ye

[dark kernel]

Yeah I like the current set. Unfortunately I have not hit 2400 for the smoke

My kid recently hit some real rough sleep and I had to get some intervention

I may be getting some more game time soon if I .lucky

But I have not been lucky

[spring bough]

Just go run abberrus mythic and you’ll unlock the smoke

EZ 10 min clear with a group lol

[stoic spruce]

Was that the elite set?

[spring bough]

That was the LFR recolor all white

[dark kernel]

I thought the smoke went away each season

[stoic spruce]

Oh okay good

[spring bough]

LFR is gone for DF until midnight I guess

[dark kernel]

Are you saying the current season smoke I can get next zlac

[spring bough]

I think midnight is when DF becomes legacy and they add the LFR npc, right?

[stoic spruce]

Ye

[spring bough]

Yes

[spring bough]

Idt it goes away until raid becomes legacy

[stoic spruce]

You know what's funny? Ider what current season set looks like lol

[spring bough]

So run all the current raids on mythic in midnight at max and get the shoulder smoke if u missed it

[verbal field]

tellin you we wont get any void theme set in whole midnight

[spring bough]

It’s kinda poop

[stoic spruce]

I'm playing so many other games that I'm immune to the fomo

[spring bough]

Season 2 TWW set was the best this xpack

[stoic spruce]

There's like an 80% chance I don't hit 1800 for it

[stoic spruce]

Real

[spring bough]

You can hit 1800 in blitz if u go like 8-0 or 10-0 something ez lol

[stoic spruce]

You're not wrong

BUY

BUT

Why do that when Battlefield 6 is on the same pc I play WoW on?

[dark kernel]

You can literally play 4 shuffles and get 1800

[spring bough]

🤷‍♂️

[stoic spruce]

[spring bough]

That too lol

[stoic spruce]

Yeah I ain't doing that

[spring bough]

4-2 sprinkle a 5-1 or a 6-0 and in 4 ques you elite

[stoic spruce]

Conquest queues are 12 seconds

[dark kernel]

Brother shuffle queues are sub 10 mins rn

It's the fastest queues of the xpac

Rn

Because people are on other games

[spring bough]

I kinda lost motivation to play. I mean what else is there to do till midnight? I got elite. Got all the mogs. Over 720ilvl for pve…. Like really what else can I do? Just rerun the same keys 100x over lmao

[stoic spruce]

Brawlers Guild

[spring bough]

Remix chars maxed on legion rep

Rogue crew of alts all set for midnight

[dark kernel]

That's fine man. Rn really if you're set then that's it. Only thing else is seeing where you can get in rated 3s. Glads a real thing next season

[stoic spruce]

I'm not doing brawlers guild on my rogue. Worried vanishing so much will bug the fights out.

Mark my fuckin words tho

Next season?

I'll be 1800 day 1

And yall will be like

"Damn that was fast"

And I'll be snorting a line of coke and hitting queues like they owe me money

Gimme 15 minutes

[gleaming sentinel]

kyveza time, she got nerfed too

[gleaming sentinel]

[vocal surge]

Radiant Power in Beta

[dark moon]

Hit 3k rio?

Did you kill kyveza on second difficulty?

[spring bough]

I guess 3k io the only thing I haven’t done this season lol

[dark moon]

Same, getting back to pve atm, so ill do it soon. Have you done the delve on ?? difficulty?

Oh and also curve

[spring bough]

Not yet. Idt I did any on ?? This xpack

[dark moon]

Not sure what idt means

[spring bough]

I don’t think

[sick moth]

Like 6 hours

[dark moon]

Sorry for asking. But you can try if you want somewhat of a challenge

Gives also a nice-ish mount

[vocal surge]

Tranquillien's quests be made for toddler cartoons

They got the mustache twirling villain, the villains hideout the size of the Twin Towers

Even the Twilight Hammer got dirty laundry all over the place with blinking lights and a giant sign that says: "Im here!"

With an arrow pointed at em

[gleaming sentinel]

bladerush feels nice to press, looks cool

[grave basin]

this just got easier

they nerfed it

[dark moon]

Yeah but I did it before the nerf. Just 60 score for 3k left and I'm done with the season. Now I have to find another guild for some pve shenanigans as i ended s1 and s2 6/8 mythic

[gleaming sentinel]

I think the set looks good

[dark kernel]

I think all the sets recently have looked good, but I think the last great set was DF S1

[jaunty mirage]

That’s fine, everyone is entitled to their own wrong opinions

[gleaming sentinel]

[dark moon]

what the hell is this shit oh my god

[gleaming sentinel]

we need more black / grey / red hooded mogs

[lime oar]

is it just me or is outlaw dmg insanely bad in beta lmao

[sharp sierra]

anyone watching awc?

druid went poop in 5 seconds lmao

[gleaming sentinel]

shush

god

[lime oar]

edited

https://tenor.com/view/greasestain-woody-dap-up-dapping-toy-story-gif-16829324021208675735

[gleaming sentinel]

[gleaming sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/team-bones-gif-24015799

[potent pivot]

[dark moon]

ah shiieet there's awc

friday evening became a lot better with awc

[spring bough]

Black, grey, red, poison green and purple. That’s the only colors rogue sets should be lol

[spring bough]

Not what I been hearing

[lone jasper]

@dark moon

[dark moon]

ayoo come say hi ingame 🙂

hiddenstalker won vs kasu

[orchid plinth]

It's not red so it's good

[lone jasper]

Next time, for sure 🫡

[lime oar]

https://tenor.com/view/callate-cara-amarilla-gif-19591407

[spring bough]

Play the Hunter game…. Don’t optimize sims to get buffs. Get buffs. Then optimize sims for a 10% gain overnight 😂

[gleaming sentinel]

Whats the general strategy as sin/aff @outer sky ?

[spring bough]

win

[outer sky]

As soon as you load in type /afk so they can't kill you

But on a serious note

With the VW nerfs its really hard to do enough damage as a team to win with pressure

You basically won't kill anything without kingsbane unless you play a giga damp game

Its a C tier comp

[gleaming sentinel]

just found a lock thats all, gonna try that out

[outer sky]

Ive been trying to play it without voice and its actually such aids

You almost kill like 5 times

Then one of you randomly gets solod in a DRd stun

[gleaming sentinel]

maybe destro law or sub better

[cerulean rapids]

Anyone know if theres a weak aura which shows combat drop timer? For restealths, not a huge deal but would be nice

cant seem to find any online

[fathom crag]

it doesn’t exist and if it would it wouldn’t be accurate cus so many piss aoe or dots w/e keeps you in combat for no reason

[stoic spruce]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/single-minded-fury-warrior-transmog-preview-on-the-midnight-beta-379267?utm_source=discord-webhook

@wanton breach I was right!

[cerulean rapids]

ty

[spring bough]

Ummmmmmm does that comment mean the warrior could mog to warglaives?!?!?

[stoic spruce]

It do

Just fury

[hidden moth]

WTAFV IS THIS CD MANAGER ON BETA

HOLY SHIT ITS SO FUCKING DOG SHIT

https://tenor.com/view/obadiah-stane-tony-stark-was-able-to-build-this-in-a-cave-with-a-box-of-scraps-tony-stark-box-of-scraps-iron-man-gif-23963164

Weakauras did this in 2004

blizz cant even ctrl+C ctrl+v

THE FACT WE CANT USE W/A TO MAKE OUR OWN CD MANAGER BUT STILL HAVE TO GET ADDONS TO MAKE THEIR CD MANAGER USEABLE

[vocal surge]

The Midnight Beta UI experience
https://youtu.be/BD4p4buPTv4?si=nDtwgGQCKDCxMpzI

[stoic spruce]

I'm shielded by my apathy

[hidden moth]

actually wishing my suicide attempt succeded rn

wtaf is this

cant display energy bar or cp in the cd managerr

i HAVE TO USE PEROSNAL RESOURCE DISPLAY

AND I CANT EVEN HIDE THE FUCKING HP BAR

I MAKESME EITHER HAVE ENERGY WITH HEALTH OR NEITHER

CANT EDIT HOW BIG THE BARS ARE THE CPS ARE ANYTHING WITHOUT ADDONS

BUT HERE BLIZZ IS AND EVERY FUCKING DOUCHEBAG ON THEIR HIGH HORSE "get rid of addons" literally unplayable game

the real wow killer was blizz all along gg

[abstract stratus]

is kalv meming or did he actually get banned from competing tomorrow?

[vocal surge]

where was that from?

[abstract stratus]

stream chat

[spring bough]

There is a PRD addon u can get to reskin it

[hidden moth]

glad i have to get an ADDON to fix blizzards game bc they want to REMOVE ADDONS

[potent pivot]

If his acc got banned I think that stops him from competing

[abstract stratus]

he was playing on stream but it didnt seem like his normal toons

[potent pivot]

Prolly on an alt acc

[abstract stratus]

that super blows if its true

[potent pivot]

Yeah it sucks but that’s usually how it goes afaik

Wonder why he got banned

Speaking in blitz chat

[abstract stratus]

for some reason i feel like its from him selling the mythic mount but thats my 10 minute conspiracy theory

[potent pivot]

Huh

[potent pivot]

Why would that get anyone banned tho

[abstract stratus]

selling boosts even for gold has gotten awc people banned before who knows what happens off stream

[grave basin]

selling aotc/mythic mounts have been in the game sinceforever

only if its rmt

for gold is ok

[abstract stratus]

i know its all g normally for gold but an awc competitor got banned a couple years ago for something similar i can find the reddit post

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/sn5mip/awc_competitor_falsely_banned_nicktherogue/

the comments under the post are something lol

[grave basin]

lontar also got banned before

but that was actual rmt

[potent pivot]

Yes usually that’s for rwt or piloting though

I haven’t heard of pve boost bans in years

[grave basin]

whaaz streams on his mythic mount

and something tells me he isnt a raider

lol

[wanton breach]

I assume he gets boosted from the PvE group of his organization

[grave basin]

yea of course

echo just boosts him

im p sure he does the same for some pvers to get glad mount too

[gusty hedge]

still no rogue mog glaive? cmon blizzard

[gleaming sentinel]

[gleaming sentinel]

sub done

assa done

now time fo routlaw

[dark moon]

Gl with outlaw

Seems you can push for title on assa

[gleaming sentinel]

Farming wins as assa on my main and I’m pretty hard stuck 2400. I got kinda lucky hitting 2.6

[jolly sierra]

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1DumJE6Y4V/

XD

[spring bough]

do i make the human rogue outlaw or sin

[gleaming sentinel]

Sub

[spring bough]

i cant play sub lmao

[gleaming sentinel]

I can’t either I play it like outlaw. Tunnel one guy a just kidney an off target here and there

[spring bough]

i went with sin lol

2-0 into the 3rd round in honor gear TY sudden demise and silence

3-0 and made the hunter leave /cry

[dark moon]

female or male

nvm saw that you went sin

[gleaming sentinel]

Mm / unholy / frost mage / sin.

Kill me

[cerulean rapids]

Does anyone know of a shadowmeld macro which puts you in stealth as well? the one i currently have only works if im not moving, i assume because its a GCD it wont put me in stealth when im moving?

[jolly sierra]

you cant shadowmeld in movement