pvp

[grave basin]

is so fcking cursed looking

as rogue

any1 knows if lemix to retail transfer has been fixed

[spring bough]

Yes I xfered my highmountain rogue to retail on Tuesday

[outer sky]

Lol last week I was queueing this troll af assa/arms 3s comp with Rio and we were just deleting healers with kingsbane, demolish, stun and silence spam. The 3rd row down, that frost mage is Canada lol

[grave basin]

was thinking of playing my orc sub rogue and first lobby i see of nahj going 1 5

gg

sub so dead on the ladder he's r1 sub with neg win lose

kekw

[outer sky]

If you play sub rogue in shuffle you should be required to meet with a therapist afterwards

[pliant lintel]

[gleaming sentinel]

It’s actually such an aggravating experience

[grave basin]

i got assad

[wanton breach]

does your weakaura do that?

[grave basin]

yes

https://wago.io/fLKCjv_ca/2

[outer sky]

Even though its you, it still makes me smile to see a ret get globaled like that. The best is when it happens through BoP. Like bitch you thought that would save you because it took off my bleeds but I got a fat dose of nature dam about to go right through your petty immunity

[grave basin]

still won 4 so not even mad

[sharp sierra]

Druid done, only 3 more classes on NE to go before I’m fully transferred over

GG horde

[grave basin]

just suprised he had that much damage without deathmark

[outer sky]

Deathmark isnt really relevant

It doesnt buff anything else

[grave basin]

doesnt it give a coin

[outer sky]

Yeah it procs a coin

[grave basin]

and coin is like 50% of that damage

[outer sky]

But just 1 coin

Its not a big deal

The kingsbane burst is what gets you

And that does the same regardless of deathmark

[grave basin]

if i extend the deathlog it looks funnier

i was 90%

[outer sky]

Ya and thats all the rogue too

His kingsbane didnt even crit

I actually still dont understand fatebound logicatically

Like idk how the coins really work

I just know they do a lot of damage when I press kingsbane and cold blood

[gleaming sentinel]

this why mfers hate assa lolllll

[spring bough]

Weak aura still around? Deleted mine at the addon announcement 😂

[spring bough]

Get deleted pally lmaoooo

[grave basin]

gonna get to 2.3 on this toon and just let it sit

my backup incase my monk doesnt make it to 2.4

[outer sky]

WW is the only spec ive ever gotten 2.4 on besides a rogue spec. I just can't stand it without keefers dash. Having no targeted mobility feels horrible. And its one of the easiest specs for these untouchable casters to bully in arena

[grave basin]

yea and ret in every lobby

means you never touch anything

[dark kernel]

I have seen SUBSTANTIALLY less ret

Fortunately

[spring bough]

So how’s pvp today

[grave basin]

destro destro destro devoker devoker mm bm

and that one assa rogue

[pliant lintel]

havent seen a dev in forever

[grave basin]

famous last words

[sharp sierra]

You mean deathmark baiters?

[hidden moth]

Sure but playing disc priest in PvP helped me learn as a rouge what to do against them

We call those “ shitters”

[hidden moth]

The arena is my therapist

[hidden moth]

Death mark is 2 coins

Same with kings bane

And both coins flip as head+ tails

[hidden moth]

5 cp finishers proc a coin flip

Heads gives u damage buff tails does instant damage, flipping 7 coins on same face in a row makes you do fatty damage + get a buff

First 5+ cp finisher after leaving stealth flips 2 coins instead of 1 and both are guaranteed to match

So ur first rupture on kill target

Then death mark gives 2 coins and they proc edge case counting as head and tails and giving u the effects as if you rolled 2 separate coins as 1 head and 1 tails per coin so

Death mark gives u equivalent of 4 coin procs basically

But edge case being head and tails it doesn’t end ur streak so now we are at 2 from rup+ 2 from death mark

Kingsbane is also 2x edge case coins

So that’s 6 and with cold blood envenoms coin procs is guarantee to match your current streak so

That envenom after dm kb will proc a fat 7 coin lucky coin

[outer sky]

[molten hedge]

Bro I’ve been slacking. Had a crit verse dagger and 5 727 pcs lol I hit multiple 4.2+ mil kingsbanes ln

[hidden moth]

Also as fatebound

Seal fate procs give 2 cp not 1

So u could theoretically use 1 gcd for mutilate hit a double crit and go from 0 to 6 cp in one gcd

[outer sky]

Idk if I understand. Yeah youre procing a lot of coins that match but theyre different. Rupture is 1 heads 1 tails, DM 1 heada 1 tails

So youre not getting 7 matches

Edge case is still 1 coin flip it just "lands on its edge"

So rupture, DM, KB, Envenom

4 coin matches

Not 7

[hidden moth]

No no

So this makes rupture hit 2 coins

Garuntee match

Since edge case counts as head n tails

Game registers as it matching ur current streak

[outer sky]

But they aren't the same outcome right

[hidden moth]

From rupt?

[outer sky]

I dropped out of community college to open a gun store bro I need this explained to me like I have the IQ of a ret pally

[hidden moth]

The double jeopardy talent as above makes the first 2 coins 100% match

[outer sky]

Ok so thats 2 that match

[hidden moth]

2 coin from dm 2 coin from kb count as head+ tail each

All 4 land on their side

Not 1 head and 1 tail it’s 2x head 2x tail per dm and kb cast

[outer sky]

And so did the 2 from rupture?

[hidden moth]

Two from rupt say

Tails

2x tails

Then dm is 2x both

4 total

Kb 2x both

6 total on streak for tails flips

[outer sky]

Thats where im confused. If the rupture flips 2 tails thats a DIFFERENT outcome than landing on edge

[hidden moth]

Cold blood makes the coin from envenoms buffed by it match the last outcome

So it will be tails 100% of the time in this case

Giving u 7

[hidden moth]

Edge is joker

It’s a wild card

Like poker

Or uno

[outer sky]

Mmm

[hidden moth]

Test it or I can send u a vid when I’m home

[outer sky]

No i know that it does work I just wasnt sure of the logic behind it

[molten hedge]

Bro he’s got like 60 or 70 something now

[spring bough]

I get a lucky coin every single round playing as sin. Usually off the opener too

[gleaming sentinel]

I dont have enough rogues....

[spring bough]

I thought having about 10 rogues named VanCleef was psychopath activities but 60 to 70 DKs is absolutely beyond psychopath

[molten hedge]

Yeah. He’s like BigDam

[spring bough]

That dude def has 100+ shamans

[molten hedge]

What about BIGLAWNMOWER lmao

[outer sky]

Apparently most people think I'm Sandor

[spring bough]

Are u

[outer sky]

No lol

[spring bough]

Def lies

[molten hedge]

A sub fire hpriest shit on us ln I felt castrated ngl

I had a bad trinket

[grave basin]

its just called being unemployed

woW 4 lyfe!!

[spring bough]

Nah it’s called no life and I put a full 7.5 hours into wow after 7.5 hours of work

[outer sky]

I have 4 kids and my own company and I game all the time

[grave basin]

show your 60 rogues

[molten hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/askme-aboutmy-weiner-jonah-hill-gif-4462510

[outer sky]

theres no way its actually that many

[molten hedge]

No lie

That bitch has over 60 DKs

I swear

[spring bough]

I have like 10 rogues max now since the one of my 3 accounts is perma banned

[molten hedge]

Sec

[outer sky]

ive got 3 on my account and 1 on my wife's account

[grave basin]

i refuse to believe he has a job

[molten hedge]

Actually this was from a week or two ago

[grave basin]

there's actually no way

[molten hedge]

He’s got more now this was 53

[grave basin]

i love wow as much as the next dad gamer but even queueing 9 toons for elite set this season is such a chore

[spring bough]

How do you know that’s all one guy lol

[molten hedge]

Bro

[grave basin]

check pvp

[molten hedge]

It’s check pvp

[grave basin]

lists it all as his alts

[molten hedge]

That’s petkick

[grave basin]

it's connected to his bnet

[molten hedge]

He legit has 60-70 DKs

[outer sky]

but like why'

[grave basin]

the right question is why not

you have 18 hours a day

queue 3 accounts at once

[molten hedge]

I’m in this cycle of not queueing til like 10-11pm and I play late and get tired and fuck my cr

[grave basin]

once a dk reaches top X where queues takes 2hours

you reroll

[molten hedge]

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Tichondrius/Petkick

[spring bough]

Gotta be atleast 5 accounts

[molten hedge]

This is one account

It’s 60 dks

The crazy thing is most don’t even have cr they just chill

[grave basin]

i mean loads of R1s have multiples of the same spec/class to queue with different people

or chill with

but this is peak terminally online behaviour

[gleaming sentinel]

ladies and gentlement my second rogue has hit elite in shuff

[spring bough]

All his are some form of Petkick for the name too right

[spring bough]

Sin or outlaw

[grave basin]

outlaw?

[gleaming sentinel]

sin :<

[spring bough]

Cheater smh

[grave basin]

[gleaming sentinel]

outlaw is 2300 lol

[grave basin]

all 3 outlaw enjoyers are in this discord though so youre rank 3 outlaw NA

[gleaming sentinel]

well 2299

[spring bough]

My sin is currently rated higher than my outlaw by almost 200 points 🪦

With 1/8 the games played on sin vs outlaw

[grave basin]

pk <vancleef = werchat or w/e his name is

r3 outlaw NA isnt too bad

[outer sky]

well you just named the 2 others so

[grave basin]

oops wrong sign

[gleaming sentinel]

they are better than me rofl, i am working on it

im trying to let my main outlaws mmr cook before i lose my mind

[spring bough]

If I stopped playing outlaw week 1 of the season, day 5 into it my outlaw would be 2389

[gleaming sentinel]

i shoulda pre coin nerf q'd but i was pve'ing :<

[outer sky]

yeah that was a hell of an afternoon we had

[gleaming sentinel]

a nice 2 days

[spring bough]

Hell of a first 5 days lol

Literally hotfixed the Friday night we were queing up crazy times

“Oh we got until Tuesday…. Wait what’s ur coin damage? Oh fuck down 33% already”

[gleaming sentinel]

funny enough i was literally q'ing before and after the nerfs

and was like "man im not hitting hard anymre"

[dark kernel]

I'm literally right at 2100 in 3s and shuffle as outlaw rn

[grave basin]

damn my rogue stats are complete dog

[dark kernel]

Going to see which rises first.

[true warren]

why are many sub rogues playing shiv in rbg and blitz? is it only bc of dispelling? which buffs can get dispelled with it?

[outer sky]

is that in pvp?

[grave basin]

yes lmao

[outer sky]

yeah you need to fix that

90% mastery or bust

[grave basin]

4pc + crit daggers

gross

[outer sky]

🤮

[grave basin]

whats the fatebound build

[gleaming sentinel]

pfft

[spring bough]

It’s a secret

[grave basin]

[pliant lintel]

got the 3 weapon outlaw buff

[grave basin]

actaully insane how im casually missing

[outer sky]

CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDewMjZmxMDAAAAAAY2mxsNDAAAAAAtsMMzMwYmZWGDmZMzYmZGzM222GzwgtZ2GLMmxs0YWWGmsNMsNA

[grave basin]

so much dam

[outer sky]

there

[grave basin]

i checked pvpd your toon and alrdy copied it

[outer sky]

Happy to be of service

[grave basin]

is orc assa rogue self grief

[outer sky]

yes

[molten hedge]

I had 2 friends one is an r1 healer and one is an mglad. And they said they could hit 2400 on orc assa. I’m sure they could since they have game knowledge. But I told them have fun bitches

It’s been almost a month now and neither has made any headway

We got into this big debate about how not playing nelf is trolling

It’s doable but jfc having an extra stun/garrote window is so helpful

[outer sky]

its doable in the same way that running a marathon with a broken leg is technically doable

[molten hedge]

Yeah for sure. It’s just like why. Nelf looks fine ik u wanna play ur panda and ur cow but you’ll regret having 1 to 2 less stealth windows in the avg shuffle game without having to try for a re

[lone jasper]

I play as an undead, and I just can’t betray that race. 🤷‍♂️

[molten hedge]

Undead may be my least fav race idk why it’s so ugly

Also hate vulpera

[outer sky]

I wish i was undead in blitz with all these trash healers so when my teammates die I can use cannibalize to actually get healed jfc

[molten hedge]

Mechagnome looks kinda cool to me lol I see this guy in Dorn sometimes he was casually 2600 months ago

[outer sky]

Lol vulpera is what i would play if nelf wasnt mandatory

[grave basin]

wow

these crate farms getting fancy

[outer sky]

I mean in a way i kind of get it. Nobody is doing that shit for fun. They wanna know who's deadweight and making it take longer than it needs to

But yeah

We've come a long way

Since classic

Thats for sure lol

[grave basin]

im guessing your 2pc are hands and legs?

or is it pants and hands?

has ot be the latter right for engi helm

[gleaming sentinel]

we on the come up

[grave basin]

they even have ?next commands

[outer sky]

Yeah hands and legs

[jaunty mirage]

People are still trying to charge for crate farm groups?

[lone jasper]

Im very used to that race, since vanilla, they are cool. I hope on midnight being Nelf wont be mandatory again, and the undead racial will definitely have its significance in PvP

[outer sky]

It will always be mandatory for assa as long as garrote silence is a thing

And if garrote silence ever isn't a thing then assa won't be relevant anyway

[lavish idol]

Would like to ask a general question, I alwaus focesed on solo shuffle and this season really got into BG blitz. In solo, I float around 1.8k and it's tough (outlaw), but BG blitz I somehow have MMR of 2.4k and currently 2.1k rated. Is it just generally easier?

[outer sky]

Yes substantially

[lone jasper]

But removing additional fear is also a cool thing. As the stun system is changing in midnight No one really knows yet which one will have the advantage.

[lavish idol]

I thought perhaps could just be solo is more a test of your personal pvp ability, but somehow I just find the BGs so much easier and more tactical

and importantly fun

is it easier just due to rogue's in 3v3 situation or just the way the system is?

[outer sky]

Getting out of a fear or sleep especially for a non healer isn't even remotely close in value to being able to spam silence the entire enemy team

[lavish idol]

I never really thought elite rank was attainable for me but since my MMR is so, perhaps I should go for it

[fathom crag]

night elf will be bis for assa still in midnight then for outlaw/sub prob high mountain in general & orc against other rogues

[outer sky]

Theres nobody who can figure out how to make a WoW account that cant get elite rank in blitz

[lone jasper]

Lets see next expansion 😌

[lone jasper]

I will never play tauren rogue, if it will be even bis, Unfortunately, the visual side matters a lot to me for comfortable gameplay. might not reach R1, but you can get Gladiator with any race.

I’m not sure about what I’m saying, but I still believe in it. 🤷‍♂️

[fathom crag]

ye race don’t matter you can get rank 1 any race as well just playing bis race makes it easier

can always imorph anyway

[outer sky]

Race matters more for rogues than any other spec i think. Closely followed by druids.

I dont really mind the stealth based stuff with shadow meld but I think the idea of melding stuff people are trying to do to you is stupid. They should nerf that. Like pressing shadowmeld before a chaos bolt hits you shouldn't negate the chaos bolt lol

[pliant lintel]

play nelf use imorph

[fathom crag]

for sure rogue is the class that ur race matters the most

meld garrote is too big

meld restealth for law too

[molten hedge]

They rly changed the game when garrote silence went from 6 to 12 seconds

[outer sky]

I played when it was 3

But yeah

Thats huge

[molten hedge]

Ouu

[outer sky]

And was very very much needed

[molten hedge]

Ya I remember reading the notes before TWW like wait 12 seconds to silence?!?

[outer sky]

Idk how people think its somehow okay to be able to entirely negate the function of a class by disarming them

Both damage and utility is gone

Just disarm when the rogue comes out of stealth

The 12s silence window fixed that

I still think disarm neede a longer CD

[molten hedge]

I hate that evasion is a fake cooldown against rogues a lot of the time

[outer sky]

As it stands it lines up with too many things

[outer sky]

Yeah what's really annoying is vs rmp if you dont have any vanishes theres no button you can press to save yourself

They'll kill you through cloak or evasion

[jaunty mirage]

I just hope they address some of the micro cc tbh

[molten hedge]

I pre cloaked a setup on me yday in that fire sub game but it didn’t matter bc combust lasts a while

And just died right after lmao

[molten hedge]

They are by removing the third DR

[jaunty mirage]

It’s wild that sometimes I just can’t play the game through a series of triple DR stuns and roots from classes that are not supposed to be control classes

[molten hedge]

I hate fighting other rogs man. And they’re so prevalent in 3s

I need to improve

On my feral I’m fine

[outer sky]

The micro CC is mostly in the game because players want/need mob control for m+ dungeons. Its just aids in pvp. The solution is obvious. Simply add "pve talents". Talents that only work in raids and dungeons and when war mode is off. Exactly like how we already have pvp talents that only work in arenas, BGs, and when war mode is on. And put all the micro CC there.

[jaunty mirage]

Yeah

Feel like pvp people have been saying that for ages hahaha

Such an easy thing to at least try

[molten hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/idiocracy-test-genius-iq-gif-14792434

[outer sky]

Bro the evoker fire breath combat bug is still in the game on the Midnight Alpha and ive been reporting it since the start of this xpac. I may have even reported it in beta. They just dont give a fuck

On another note

Do any of yall know how people like petkick survive while being perpetually unemployed and playing video games all day? Theres no way streaming is paying the bills. Whatever it is, I want in on it. Im sick of dealing with these dumbass customers of mine

[hidden moth]

What is there to do lmfao u fly there loot chest then leave tf

[gleaming sentinel]

Is he really unemployed?

[hidden moth]

It’s like drawing cards from a deck, say you are looking for reds, rupture guarantees 2x red, then dm guarantees the next 2 draws are wild (either red or black) kb does the same thing so now you have 2 red 4 wilds and then your envenom with cold blood makes the next card match the current streak you are on, forcing the next card of the deck to be red so then you get 2x red 4x wild and another 1x red to give you 7x red in a row

[outer sky]

Idk about him personally but a lot of these multi r1s are

[molten hedge]

What kalv be doin

My mans almost got r1 on every class now

Streaming late asf

[outer sky]

Hes like 19 he probably still lives with his parents

Wait

[molten hedge]

Is he in school

Oh ok respect

[outer sky]

I think i just answered my question

[molten hedge]

Yw

For the lead

[hidden moth]

Mood but tbh it’s the combined revenue of streaming. + clips across X insta Facebook YouTube tick tok etc mixed with oil princes who glaze you and donate 1000s just for you to say their name once

[molten hedge]

Val also lives in his parents basement last I heard

Maybe he moved out

[outer sky]

Ya know im not even going to make fun of that. Because the truth is, if I could live without bills and game all day, I probably would too

[molten hedge]

Lmao it’s hard out here.

https://www.twitch.tv/valthepirate/clip/IronicAggressiveLadiesStoneLightning-ja6UZracDwbjc5Xb

This shit sent me. I clipped it when remix came out @outer sky

He was queueing with iirc

[jaunty mirage]

Petkick barely streams and has a regular job afaik

He’s just autistic and only plays 1 spec for like 18 years or whatever

Half the time his different chars have the exact same gear and spec ahahaha

[outer sky]

Eh still beats being married

[hidden moth]

Depends

My fiancé and I are 6/8 M and have resil 16s on live currently (took a big hiatus on keys) she also does pvp with me though she isn’t legend quality she is 2k

[outer sky]

Youre adorable

Fiance isnt a wife

[hidden moth]

[outer sky]

Trust me

It'll change

[hidden moth]

What the diff lol

[outer sky]

I dont know but they do

Lots of guys will tell you

These women change after marriage

[gleaming sentinel]

We do too buddy

[hidden moth]

Feels like we been married for a min ngl lived together for coming up on 3 years now

[molten hedge]

We get buffed and nerfed irl?

[hidden moth]

Nerfed

[outer sky]

Idk i met my wife at age 21 and we got married when I was 28

And that was 3 years ago

And even she changed after marriage

[static holly]

https://tenor.com/view/word-troy-barnes-community-that's-right-gif-5726584053966428452

[gleaming sentinel]

I mean of course she did, I’m sure you did too

[outer sky]

I dont change, I level up

Here's a picture of us the night before our wedding. That was a really fun night. And I dont think we've had that much fun since. I can see it in her eyes

Anyway yall arent my therapists

[molten hedge]

We are

I have a kid and get busy. Having 4, I’m sure it’s hard to find time for each other. But that’s important even if it’s once every 2-4 weeks doing something special or planning a date night. It’s really easy to become complacent. Even doing something small but consistently can help rekindle the relationship

I’m the same age as you, and I also met my wife at 21 lol

[outer sky]

Hell yeah, 1994?

[molten hedge]

Yezzir

[outer sky]

The year legends were born

[molten hedge]

What if we’re long lost brothers separated at birth, only to be brought together by fate..bound

[outer sky]

Idk man theres plenty of people born every year, including in 94 lol

[molten hedge]

Nah it was just us

Damn

[outer sky]

But nah my mom was pregnant with me when her and my dad moved to the US so if I have any siblings idk about they're on another continent

[gleaming sentinel]

lol

[outer sky]

Bro the void blast casts are so short that ill legit kick right when I see the cast bar appear, give them precog, and they still got the cast off

Its insane

Like 0.4s

[molten hedge]

Lmfao yeah it’s insane

Toxic

[pliant lintel]

they need to nerf trinity

perma bloodlust

[molten hedge]

And if u manage to kick them, ur other dps will prob give precog

[outer sky]

Yeah I get so tilted when I kidney right as my teammate gives precog lol

Thats one of the most troll things in the game

[static holly]

Vw is goat. Leave it alone 😭

[outer sky]

I dont think its as crazy as everyone is saying it is but it is a bit overtuned. The biggest issue is that its so dominant and so its ruining the game for everyone who wants to play a different healer spec

Everyone wants a voidweaver

And its also boring because every match you play is against one

Anything that is so dominant that it homogenizes the game is bad imo

[static holly]

Had one in s2 and went the same in s3 but I only play it when bored. Not sure why it's so hyped.
All you have to do is often to pressure them and they mess up because they don't know what to do. No DMG no heal

[outer sky]

I dont really think thats true of the void is high rated ngl

[static holly]

Yea because so can not let them free cast

[pliant lintel]

easier said than done in solo shuffle

[static holly]

That's the problem

Choose wisely 🤣

[pliant lintel]

my issue with VW is the fact they never press dispel and forget the rest of their kit exists

the amount of games i've had to burn a defensive or trinket because VW won't dispel or press PS because he's trying to fake cast a mind blast is ridiculous

[outer sky]

Entropic rift has a 8 second duration that can be extended to 11 within 3 0.5 sec casts, no matter what you do it will ALWAYS be up for at least 8 seconds, mindblast has a 16 seconds cd with around 40% haste and shield haste up and yet people are serously claiming you just need to cc the priest on mind blasts.

If you are cc’ing a healer for 50% time of every game of course you are going to win, now tell me what healer can win games when they are getting cc’d for 50% of the time? Thats not a void disc strategy, thats something that if you could do to any healer you'd win against them.

[gleaming sentinel]

I love melee lobbies as sin against vw, they go me i just sit the priest and cleave the world

[static holly]

Only 2 months and then we get the pre Patch / ssn ends. They don't care

[static holly]

You are right but I think it's the fact that they do similar DMG like other DPS classes but it's not that simple

[spring bough]

Void discs are satans spawns

[static holly]

Vw actually has the highest range. Make sure to utilize it and stay as far away as possible

[potent pivot]

Depending on where they are/how they live streaming could definitely be paying the bills

[dark moon]

which field are we talking about?

[hidden moth]

Weird seeing vw be meta

Might pull the ol disc main out for 3v3

[outer sky]

Field?

[hidden moth]

Think he means type of streaming

Ik omnivore lives with his gpa?

But he takes care of him in the day and streams at night so

Stream income + retirement 401k disability money from papa

[spring bough]

Job. Petkick probably some IT guy that has his job 100% automated so he just has to be available for a call or something

“Works from home” while job is automated and just ques all day

https://x.com/mvqdh/status/1983294902789083571?s=46&t=YKaisWqFkCTf8y-DfuEaHw

Mvq (@Mvqdh)

Fix your game @WarcraftDevs

X · Oct 28, 2025, 10:08 PM

Who is this animal and why the fuck is he asking to remove crests from pvp………

[outer sky]

oh boy please come carry us

[pliant lintel]

damn save some pussy for the rest of us

[vocal surge]

[spring bough]

@outer sky whats ur mastery again

i got my mastery at pvp ilvl to 80.47%

[outer sky]

90%

[spring bough]

i need to replace tier helm with crafted engi mastery helm and i think ill get there

or be near it

[spring bough]

Therogue, is that one of ur sin rogues?

[outer sky]

No

[spring bough]

this sin+disc just got torched by us lol

rogue got cleave killed before priest died lol

[outer sky]

If its a rogue that got torched by you then you know thats not one of mine

[vocal surge]

Nerf VW

[spring bough]

damn 🙁

[hidden moth]

Pve people mad they can’t clear a fucking + 3 to get gilded

If your good enough at PvP you are getting gilded crests you are easily better than 90% of the pve shit lords

[spring bough]

if i cant get gilded from PVP ill probably never do keys again in midnight

gets me a ton of gilded evry season pvping that i hit the cap on it every week lol

[hidden moth]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hbEyaHFeK35qWNm86Q1s3h

@spring bough

[spring bough]

TF u get mythic boots LFG or guild

[vocal surge]

he got a guild

[hidden moth]

thats what i had on server

awc

saved it for what im doing on rogue on live but

just swap dh boots for crafted vers mast

[spring bough]

this was double rogue for 2k in 2s

[hidden moth]

though i do have myth dh boots on my lock and dh

lol

[vocal surge]

We broke past 2k

[hidden moth]

mad lads

[spring bough]

cruising

im having fun with this silence

[outer sky]

God damn I want to fight you guys

All my rogues are too high rated to queue into yall though

[vocal surge]

War Games go brrr

[spring bough]

i dont no ty

[vocal surge]

I do

🙂

[outer sky]

I can do war games

Yall wanna stake some gold?

Best 3/5?

[spring bough]

as long as no one sees it and i dont have any gold lmao

[outer sky]

@vocal surge gold stake war games 2s?

[vocal surge]

I dont got gold lol

im a poor boi

[outer sky]

Im not talking millions

Just like 200k or whatever

[vocal surge]

I dont even have 200k

[outer sky]

How lol I think I make 200k per season just taking bodies from people I kill in BGs lol

[spring bough]

200k lmaooooo i got like 20k rn

[vocal surge]

Recrafting go brrr

https://tenor.com/view/dh9511dh-empty-wallet-hurt-look-away-gif-13355852

[outer sky]

Well we should still play

[spring bough]

sure

[vocal surge]

Aye

lets do it

[vocal surge]

where you at?

[outer sky]

Im out having a few beers but ill be home in like an hour

[vocal surge]

XD

[gleaming sentinel]

lol this fuckin guy

"get me in there" from the pub

[vocal surge]

XD

[spring bough]

get a few more beers in so he good and sloppy when playin

make some mistakes we gonna capitalize on XD

[spring bough]

LOL

[hidden moth]

its

gutting everything

[vocal surge]

Good

[outer sky]

They did the same thing back in cata. Its like an every 10 year thing

[spring bough]

1 milly garrote dot tick is so fucking sexy

[potent pivot]

Holy is losing so much shit lmao

Rsham too kinda

Crazy

[spring bough]

does holy even have spells left after that

[spring bough]

i heard the rshamans mad about it

[potent pivot]

I think most people have something they dislike about all these changes

Except maybe people that are sorta bad at the game idk

[outer sky]

Shaman actually needed to be pruned

[vocal surge]

Paladins should get more pruning

specifically ret

[potent pivot]

Prune the spec out of the game yes

[vocal surge]

Nah

Remove Divine shield ignore forbearance talent

Considering they're getting LoHs via Blessing of Sacrifice (which can be turned into a 1min CD)

[grave basin]

I think more important than that is LOH ignoring ms

Or damp

[vocal surge]

Yee

[grave basin]

Throwing loh when there's 60% damp is actually crazy

[spring bough]

THIS MAN hit this hunter with a TWO MILLY pistol shot OH MY

[vocal surge]

2M Pistol Shot go brrrr

[grave basin]

Absolute menace

Double rog like it's Mop

Should make shroud work in arena again

[hidden moth]

yeah idk these heal changes are wonky

also god damn

seeing every assa on ladder of shuffle avoiding tf out of haste

and uber dring vers mast

isnt there engi helm+ engi bracer?

[hidden moth]

god damn

[spring bough]

its 2025 and people still lag switch rated arena.....

[stoic spruce]

Yall

I heard a rumor about Trickz

[spring bough]

2 sin 1 outlaw 3s is poppin

[stoic spruce]

3s always poppin cuh B)

[hidden moth]

he fuckin left

[vocal surge]

LOL

Wound Poison kill

[hidden moth]

mans hp vanished so fast sudden demise didnt even proc

[potent pivot]

[wet crown]

"button bloat" andies when they wonder why they have zero utility spells

[stoic spruce]

Oh I forgot

Yall I heard Trickz HATES having fun and doesn't like cool stuff

He pays off the devs to keep outlaw damage low

[spring bough]

i heard bro doesnt have an active sub

smh

[stoic spruce]

Duuuude

I heard the same thing!

I bet we have the same source

[vocal surge]

we made a turbo

drop their healer

and we beat their new healer

[spring bough]

absolute nightmares to find us in 3s rn

@stoic spruce can u find some dps or healer and que up 3s we got somethin for u

[stoic spruce]

You're so lucky I'm washed rn

[spring bough]

wouldnt matter

[stoic spruce]

Yeah

I break stealth in duals against rogues because I cba to find another rogue in stealth whilst I'm also in stealth

Actually pisses me off lol

[spring bough]

look at the damage in the last 0.6 seconds lol

[stoic spruce]

Interesting

Assa doing the heavy lifting I see

.>

I wish I found Assa enjoyable. I used to love that spec.

When I made my new account back in 2019, I leveled my rogue as assa

[spring bough]

it is

this silence OP as fuck

[stoic spruce]

I simply don't find it fun

[wet crown]

I like sin in dungeons but the spec I liked isn't in season lol

[stoic spruce]

I'll play it in a key every now and then

[spring bough]

sudden demise is so OP

[spring bough]

i swapped my entire outlaw PVE set to a sin set and its fun asf

[wet crown]

I'm sliding back into warlock town lol

Feels like every time I swap off lock I get punished for it lmao

[hidden moth]

another fucking leaver

like i cant get any mmr or cr bc i dont get to play more than 3 fuckign rounds bc of these cucks

[wet crown]

THE PALADIN LEFT

LMAO

boosted fuck

[stoic spruce]

Without condemning nor condoning I understand.

[hidden moth]

nah fuck these bitches

noone said shit in chat

noone was being toxic

bro loses first 2 rounds then afks 3rd

i snag a free kill on him bc he afk

then he gets kicked before round 4

[stoic spruce]

He's also a ret

Hmmm

[hidden moth]

healer left/

not the ret

[stoic spruce]

Oh

[hidden moth]

besides

that was my 3RD SHUFFLE IN A ROW WHERE I HAD A LEAVER

[stoic spruce]

He'll get insta queue when his debuff is gone

And no one cares about other people's rating

[stoic spruce]

Oof

[hidden moth]

hope he insta ques into chemo treatments from the cancer that he is

ight ive calmed down now

[stoic spruce]

Lol

[hidden moth]

[stoic spruce]

That was fast

You're a better man than I

[hidden moth]

i have a few other 1800 sets i want and my rogue is nearing honor cap

do i gem out the rouge or send the honor over hmmm

[stoic spruce]

Waiting for queues to pop is 10x harder than any shuffle match. Don't @ me

[wet crown]

imagine being such a boosted bitch that you rq as a paladin

[hidden moth]

oh dw i got my 200+ vers 740 remix dh on the other monitor

[stoic spruce]

I get hardstuck 982 because I loathe waiting

And my season best in shuffle is like 16XX

I can't express how much I dislike ranked skirmish

[hidden moth]

ight whats the good pvp sets this season

[stoic spruce]

Are there any?

Everyone hypes up the dk set

But it's pretty generic imo

[hidden moth]

@spring bough @outer sky do i xfer honor now for honor sets on 10 other toons for 13/13 classes 1800 or start geming up rogue got 7 more sockets to buy

[vocal surge]

Gaming

[spring bough]

whatever makes u happy ❤️

[grave basin]

Paladin

[outer sky]

well heres the results of that best 3/5

[vocal surge]

Aye

[outer sky]

the bigger surprise is that we probably have like a 50% win rate playing triple rogue at 2k mmr lol

[hidden moth]

lmfaooo

so zicore thoughts on gems vs honor saving for alts

[outer sky]

the 1st 2 gems are essential. Because 1 gives you your meta gem which is primary stat and the 5% reduced damage while and for 6s after being CCd effect, and the 2nd is a raw stat gem that allows your double Elemental Focusing Lens embellishments to function

beyond that theyre very small optimizations

but I still do them

but again, theyre small buffs, very very small

so if youd prefer to get an alt geared fast go for it

but you need the 1st 2 gems for sure

[hidden moth]

i got 2/9 rn

also just realized hemo toxin is a dead talent in midngiht

contorl is king might make a comeback considering how low our energy regen is gonna be though

[vocal surge]

Aye

[hidden moth]

breh

wtf are these lobbies

2x vw

feral and ww doing ape shit damage and

holy spriest

[hidden moth]

https://tenor.com/view/now-watch-this-drive-gif-25121927

[vocal surge]

Btw fun fact

While we were slamming 3s

A healer got ditched for a new heal

By a duo

Then we smashed their new healer

And came across their old healer in a different team

[hidden moth]

lmfaooo

jesus christ u 3 are terrorists

wait are rogues not taking 4 set rn for 3v3 as assa seeing many people only have 2p

[turbid ore]

im tryna get the 1800 armor set

playing only lfg

im just tryna get the 1800 xmog

some of the ppl who join my lfg are not very happy with me after a couple losses LOL

[hidden moth]

nah not u

u said ur bit as i was finishing my thought

fixed

[turbid ore]

ahhh i was confused lol

[hidden moth]

hmmm

why is whazz using engi helm but no engi bracer

copying whaz gear this is the stats im getting

[turbid ore]

ur rogue looks sick

slowly but surely getting the gear gems and enchants on my lcok

[hidden moth]

hehe

thats uh

awc realm

i dont have the legion magetower daggers...

[hidden moth]

pog

[potent pivot]

the difference of these items is so miniscule

prolly just a vers thing or something

[hidden moth]

thats fair

forgot no tinket socket

[potent pivot]

mostly fatebound running 2p

[hidden moth]

my lock to match ur energy

[potent pivot]

deathstalker 4p

[hidden moth]

makes sense due to fate bound 4p being like 4 seconds cdr XD

so dog shit

[fathom crag]

dont matter

well the diff is ur tier helm is crit mastery

crit is nice for assa but u prefer vers mastery

so u go for vers mastery wrist & engi helm w mastery

[vocal surge]

ezclap

[grave basin]

Feel like transfering my dracthyr hunter out of remix and just brute forcing 2x survival shuffle till one of them ends up 2.4

Is leapfrogging legit? Any thoughts

[turbid ore]

ive been 1700 for 3 hrs

i just want the elite transmog 😭

[grave basin]

Tbh if you're gonna queue for that long it's not worth the mental

Id take a break and come back fresh

[orchid plinth]

queue to improve and you will get it
queue to just get 1800 and you will get frustrated

[turbid ore]

U RIGHT

IM GETTING MUCH BETTER

but also , 1763 now 👿

owning these noobz

[gleaming sentinel]

I mostly play alts for the sake of relieving Q anxiety. It’s a good idea

[grave basin]

Aite

Another night of crate farm

Low-key wanna make a high mountain hunter for the racial

Playing a chungus race looks so goofy though unless you're plate

[gusty hedge]

sadly xfer to retail is down atm. atleast for Na, have 2 more rogues waiting on xfer

[grave basin]

Really? Fucks sake

I saw someone cheesed mythic dimmy

Maybe they're sorting that out

That's 100% ban material though

[gusty hedge]

yeah someone replied to me on forums, allegedly someone was able to get remix char with all remix gear etc in retail 👀
not too sure but only thing ive heard

shoulda did arena in that gear tbh

lmao

[grave basin]

There goes my leapfrog but I do have an orc sv hunter

I'll just gear up 3x hunters 😁

Although I geared him up at bm

Not too hard to swap out though

[gusty hedge]

just got my main account back was also thinking of lvling another hunter, currently bm/sv too

[grave basin]

Thank god I didn't get the weapon on him yet

Crate farm tonight (again)

Atleast dual wielding sv is gonna look aesthetically bis

[gusty hedge]

hell yeah.
ima be doing this tonight
hopefully rng on conquest chest will be in my favor

[grave basin]

Dual wielding melee hunter on sod looked Hella fun

I quit in P1 but saw some highlights

[grave basin]

Another victim of blitz silence ban?

[gusty hedge]

not sure but def abusive chat i guess had to be from open world pvp

[grave basin]

Someone said "low damage Ret" a few days ago and I replied with trap the healer once you dog and I could feel the cross hairs on my account

For sure not worth the ban

[broken otter]

I never understood why people abuse obvious exploits to do things super apparent to the devs, like cheese mythic prog. You know you're gonna get actioned and rolled back.

[tight hill]

idk if i transferred my remix char to retail and it kept all its gear & vers i would have one hell of an afternoon... rollback or not lol

[molten hedge]

For the meme lmfaoo

37.5 mil envenom on dummy

[noble venture]

What is the strat for RLX (Assa Destro) ?
The way my team has been looking at it we have some options... Setups meaning double stun, not a solo kidney

1. Vanish every minute to align malevolence & kingsbane (one setup in the first minute)

2. Vanish/Meld twice in the first minute (3 setups for lock in first minute)

We've tried option 1, but it's feeling a bit slow

Option 2 seems far more risky, we'd end up playing safe after that I think

[molten hedge]

You can also try for a re if it presents itself

[tight hill]

what the.. is that from amp poison? i need to see the math here

[molten hedge]

Yeah it’s a cheese build haha just for fun. Deathstalker darkest night forced induction DFA amp poison with radiant power proc

On a player the highest I got was 13.8 mil

[dark moon]

The fact that you made him so mad to report means it was worth it.

I have a very big troll friend that has the sole purpose of getting people mad on social media. He gets banned on monthly basis for a month. He celebrates it and he's so happy about it

[molten hedge]

That’s when you pst them after with a period or something after to see if you’re blocked 😂

[hidden moth]

Tbh do shuffle fuck 2v2

[hidden moth]

Why crate farm

[spring bough]

Why is it my cars engine coolant always overheats when I gotta be at a client….. 🤦‍♂️

[hidden moth]

Just send games bro bro

[hidden moth]

Bro

Change that shit

When was the last time u did a coolant flush and replacement

[spring bough]

Uhhh the last time they replaced all of the coolant and all that cause the radiator blew up probably 4-5 months ago

[hidden moth]

Did you do a flush?

Or just empty it and add more

[spring bough]

And it just blew up again apparently…. The time before that one of the lines got a crack in it. They flush it and do whatever they need to

[hidden moth]

And or how is the water level rn in it?

[spring bough]

Idk it’s at the shop lmao

[hidden moth]

Oh

I just did a coolant change on my car last night lol

Er yesterday afternoon

[spring bough]

The cars overheated twice earlier this year. The one day it was -5 degrees outside the lines froze and cracked

And then the radiator blew up

And now it’s ??? 😂

[hidden moth]

Hmmm

Sounds like you didn’t have antifreeze in it

If it froze and cracked a line

[spring bough]

They literally fill everything up when I’m at the shop and I take it more than a few times a year for regular maintenance

[hidden moth]

What shop?

Is it the same one everytime?

[spring bough]

The guy tops off everything all the time. My auto shop. Always the same one

[hidden moth]

Hmmm

[spring bough]

I mean it’s a jeep grand Cherokee with 155k+ miles it’s old

[hidden moth]

Wouldn’t hurt to ask what cooolant they have been using

It’s okay, old cars arnt that bad

Mine is a ford focus 2007 with coming up on 150k miles

[spring bough]

Mines only a 2015 😭

https://x.com/imitlolret/status/1983736683221877163?s=46&t=YKaisWqFkCTf8y-DfuEaHw
how do we mass report this animal

Imit (@imitlolret)

on the journey to be wowtwt's most hated man alive.. the ret paladin army grows each day.

X · Oct 30, 2025, 3:24 AM

[grave basin]

wanna push another hunter to 2.4

[outer sky]

What do you drive?

Oh jeep grand Cherokee

Yeah well they say Jeep stands for "Just Emptied Every Pocket" for a reason

I drive a "Found On Road Dead" F150

[tight hill]

as a european i am pretty jealous of big ass trucks

[lilac sigil]

Did someone test how many dmg will you lose on assa droping some mast and going 20-21k vers? I didn’t have time to test it but see that Akro and Drake playing like it. Same I still debate about which better CB + KB or CB + 2xEnvenom, 2nd option grants more dmg but it need more setup and many times I can’t pull off 2 envenoms cause of cc

[outer sky]

Yeah lol you dont see them much over there. My parents are from Italy and we visit there a ton and we never see anyone driving anything this big. But over here theyre some of the most common vehicles on the road

I love them though.

[tight hill]

yeah roads are way smaller here especially in citys so not at all practical, sick af tho

[gleaming sentinel]

We need more rogues buddy

[spring bough]

A piece of shit that’s been in the shop probably 10 times this year

[outer sky]

@spring bough yall wanna queue some more troll triple rogue 3s later lol I was drunk last night so I logged early and passed out but im good today/tonight

[spring bough]

Sure I’ll be on later. Love blowing up some unexpecting healers 😂

[outer sky]

We taught some of those healers how to use Vanish LOL

[vocal surge]

We got a few teams to split

Especially that pal healer

And the sham + war

[outer sky]

Oh yeah that was actually hilarious

We queued into turbo with an hpal, globaled them, then we queued into the same warr/sham but with a different healer, globaled them again, then queued into their old hpal playing with 2 new dps and globaled them too lmfao

I dont think we win a game above 2.1 tbh but the fact that we had a pretty even Win/loss ratio at 2k is crazy to me lol

[vocal surge]

Aye

Good conq/honor rates

[outer sky]

Yeah especially cuz the games are fast

[vocal surge]

Yep lol

With practice we can hit 2.1k prob

[outer sky]

Just ordered my new keyboard for Midnight

[static holly]

At this point you maybe should just run a VBS script spamming the binded key every x seconds. Saves you from pressing anything

Pushing num for example prevents afk / disconnect

[vocal surge]

Lol

Was driving my sister to school when I got blinded

powerline in front of me a few blocks ahead exploded

thing was bright af

[hallow saddle]

What spec do you guys think is best for phase 6 PVP with naxx gear? Mace stun spec 2x maces? Hemo swords? Or daggers spec with kingsfall

[wanton breach]

love getting whispers from people blaming me for losing because they didn't use their abilities or spec into stuff like disarm against a MM hunter

[outer sky]

what blows me away is how when I was banned for a week and I made a fresh rogue on my wife's account I would get routinely flamed during my rating climb in like 2k lobbies by people who have been rival or duelist for the last 20 years. 4 days later I was almost 2.7 and they were still 1900 like theyve always been

Like

The amount of time I stay at that rating is only extended by long queue times

but these people are actually stuck at it

and theyre flaming me

i just dont get it

[tight hill]

blaming other people = failing to recognise own mistakes = no improve ig

unless ret didnt press on opener then what can you do

[grave basin]

living in singapore and seeing basic ass cars that cost 150k is a vibe

and that's without the "certificate" to even own the car that can cost like 40k

[outer sky]

My dad has an Estonian friend who owns a Ram 1500

Supposedly he must've paid like $160k for it or something

I paid $17k for my f150

Like I couldn't imagine paying that much for a truck

Thats fucking abusive

Like the whole point of a truck is that youre too broke to pay people to do your dirty work for you so you do it yourself

If you can afford a $160k truck then wtf did you buy a truck for

[outer sky]

I got so many bans on Facebook that they actually perma banned me a few months ago

[dark moon]

I don't engage with people there, cause it's a lost cause

Ret paladins have more brains than fb commenters

[outer sky]

I legit just troll people into oblivion

Or well I used to lol

I do miss the messenger app though

Meta actually did a really good job with that

[dark moon]

That's the only thing I use, cause it's handy

Can't you crate another account, or is it device banned?

[outer sky]

No man I tried. Its like trying to break into fort knox. They ban your IP address. And even if you use a VPN or some shit they'll ban you insta if your account looks "too similar" to a banned account

[grave basin]

in singapore public transport is really good

so you dont really need a car

it's a luxury here

[outer sky]

Yeah im just not about that lifestyle. I like having my own transportation so I can be on my own schedule rather than the bus or metro schedule

[grave basin]

well when a car costs like 2k a month, beggars cant be choosers

[outer sky]

True enough lol

[wanton breach]

losing rating cause someone feeds in your team and then ragequits in the enemy team is the worst feeling

how do people suffer through solo shuffle as dps

this is saddening

[outer sky]

Yeah like when someone is absolutely terrible and they lose the 1st 2 games when theyre on your team and then quit so you just went 0-2

I hate that shit

[grave basin]

lose first two with a trashcan

then when it;s your turn to get points back from him he /camps

-30 cr - 30mins of life

[wanton breach]

currenlty playing healer to farm conq boxes and honor for alts

[outer sky]

Another thing that I really dont like and I actually think is a problem with how the teams are shuffled, is lets say its a very favorable lobby for you and you win the 1st 4 matches. That means that 1 dps, the one you didn't play with yet, is 0-4. So then instead of realizing that the lobby is a 6-0 for you, they think its a 0-6 for them and start tilting and playing like shit

Then your 6-0 becomes a 4-2

[wanton breach]

did they change teh shuffling? it's like always one pair of dps with each healer for rounds 1+2, then 3+4, then 5+6
I remember it being more random

[dark moon]

Don't make it too similar, lol

Nah im joking, but I don't know how my friend doesn't get perma banned. He's literally banned every month for a momth, and in some cases on the day his previous ban was lifted

[outer sky]

Yes they made the shuffle predictable now. So its 2 dps 1 healer then the healers swap then the dps swap

[wanton breach]

but I agree, the way things are people get tilted easily

[outer sky]

Adding too many of the same friends is a red flag, following the same pages, joining the same groups. Its not just about the info you list on your profile.

[wanton breach]

just had such a case

absolute insanity, this title should be given to lower rating imo

ik 1800 iisnt high but give people motivation to endure shuffles

[dark moon]

Nah, title for 1.8k is 2 hours of shuffle

Time between queues included

I mean between lobbies

[hidden moth]

Bro

[outer sky]

I had one where I was 4-0 and the spriest was 0-4 and in game 5 when he was on my team he trinkets and disperses in the starting room and says to our healer "i have no CDs now so you actually have to press shit"

[hidden moth]

I got honor moved to my disc priest (pvp main before swapping rogue)

I bet I hit 1800 in 1 hour

On disc full honor gear no 2 or 4 set

[dark moon]

Healers have insta queue. I'm talking dps

[outer sky]

I got 2400 in shuffle in 1 afternoon on the rogue i made on my wife's account. 1800 is literally nothing

[dark moon]

That's how I get my elite set on healers and other dps chars end of season. Just transfer honor and im done before i have conquest for 2 piece

[dark moon]

Goddamn im hardstuck 2.3 and it's like hitting the unluckiest barrier. People just play without hands, monitors and do wild shit that makes no sense

[lime oar]

That’s your mmr tho

The same way you have that barrier so do others at 1700

[dark moon]

Not sure if i follow

What does my mmr have to do with people playing bad?

[austere thorn]

The people at 2.3 are as good/bad as you

[dark moon]

Damn i had to explain it details

Yeah sure

[lime oar]

You guys climb so fast and 1800 is a breeze because you’re good and your mmr obviously gives you huge gains all the way through to wherever you usually plateau at. So another player having the same issue, just at 1800 instead, shouldn’t be replied with “nah”

[dark moon]

But that's not what i meant

I was referring to title being at 1. 8

[outer sky]

Here's my point. This is from my seramate page. Theres simply no way that somebody can be kept from getting 2400 in shuffle by other players. I am not even close to being the best player around and I got it on day 2 of the season

[grave basin]

so uh

hunters are good aye

[wanton breach]

just had a 2.2k cr paladin

ret

only sanc himself

[dark moon]

I got duelist 1st or 2nd day of season. The issue im facing is that on the promotion lobby i get something impossible to win or teammates throw and I lose. Then i rage, lose another 2-3 lobbies, drop to 2.1k. Decide to start playing again, win lobbies, get to promotion lobby, same thing happens.

[wanton breach]

guess who lost because of that ret 🙂

[dark moon]

Been on that last lobby for 2.4 a few times and just drop

[tight hill]

sounds like the pressure is making you throw

[outer sky]

^

This

[dark moon]

Yeah, if i was the one throwing

And im not

[gleaming sentinel]

It’s exactly why I mostly Q alts

I’m 60% win rate on my alt at 2550

[grave basin]

i got duelist week 1 too and im hard lstuck like 2250

[gleaming sentinel]

My mains 50% lol

[grave basin]

lol

[tight hill]

i played sub for two weeks now assa feels easy mode

[outer sky]

You may not be overtly throwing but theres very likely things you could be doing to win matches that youre not doing and you just dont see it. Im not trying to be a dick I know teammates especially in shuffle can grief you but theres just no way that you've had no viable path to 2.4 so far this season when other people who arent even super insane at the game were able to get it in the 1st couple of days. I hope you dont take that the wrong way

[dark moon]

I mean, I'm not even complaining at this point, cause I stopped caring. 30 minutes queues are making me just not want to play

[gleaming sentinel]

Last few days my Qs have been like 5-10min

[dark moon]

I completely agree, just previous lobbies go entirely different, that's the point

[hidden moth]

Got it day 1 of season 1 for disc priest

[hidden moth]

Don’t think of I lost bc of my teammate

Think

[tight hill]

fr though, playing assa kinda got me in to bad habit of just sending all my dmg and cds too quick. playing sub got me back in to playing patiently and setting up goes and assa slaps with a bit of patience and the 1 min kingsbane go

[hidden moth]

Okay my teammates are guaranteed to be tylonal munchers with generational autism and downs

How can I carry the fuck out of these apes

[tight hill]

the thing is, if your teammates are bad, they're only your team mates for 2 of 6 rounds

[hidden moth]

^^^

[dark moon]

Can i check my match history somewhere online?

Cause i got a new pc and no addons

[outer sky]

Yeah this is huge. You dont want to play assa exactly Iike a sub rogue but you def still want to set up a bit. Too many people play it like a warrior. That doesnt work for very long

[gleaming sentinel]

😬

[outer sky]

One thing I think is really important and it kind of goes without saying kinda but people still dont do it is actively identifying your most likely win condition and deliberately playing for it

A lot of people kinda just send goes and stun shit just because they can

But what you want to do is think "if someone is going to die, who is it most likely to be and what is it most likely to look like when it happens?"

And then try to actualize that scenario

[gleaming sentinel]

Just a small push back: I wouldn’t overthink this either, sometimes waiting for your perfect go gets fucked by a dr or you overthink when you can sometimes just run someone down if they don’t have cds

[grave basin]

ok

i take that back

now im hardstuck 2.3

whata lobby to end the night on

you know what i need to do now

camp mmr on this toon and play my orc sv

[tight hill]

i think for match history you need addons and its local, unless you use arenalogs or something

[outer sky]

You dont want to wait for the stars to align but you do want to play for an identifiable win condition. I dont think those are necessarily contradictory statements but I can see how someone may make the mistake of treating them as such

[dark moon]

I feel like people are stating the obvious - if you're not good you're not going to win, duuuh. Just saying I tried couple of times to get 2.4 and lost last lobby and it felt like rounds are winnable. I know im shit, calm down.

[wanton breach]

WHY
DO
RETS
NEVER
PRESS
SANC
ON
ME
when I'm healing 🙁

[outer sky]

Nobody is calling you shit

[dark moon]

They don't have it bound

[wanton breach]

sitting in assa rogue and uh dk micro cc/silence spam

[gleaming sentinel]

What’s the win con if it’s not cross cc every kidney? I’m asking genuinely

[fathom crag]

just garrote rupture

https://tenor.com/view/so-good-wink-smile-oh-yeah-its-true-gif-24163876

[grave basin]

cause

they

dont have

the WEAK AURA

to tell them

SANC HEALER

and im not even trolling

[outer sky]

Unless you use smoke bomb, it is like that. Its super match dependant. But im thinking like, holding DRs until you have damage, knowing who to CC first, who to use what CC on, etc

[outer sky]

How goes the alpha?

[grave basin]

feelsgood to return the favor

to an assa

get surved

20% nerfed btw

[outer sky]

Bragging about beating assa as surv yikes lol

[grave basin]

yea

i am

[outer sky]

Surv is a lot of fun to play. Its the only hunter spec I even remotely enjoy

[grave basin]

ye theres no better feeling than doing this too

i can feel

the seethe through the monitor

[gleaming sentinel]

A screen shot on why I will never main assa rogue

[outer sky]

Its gotten a little better now that our big dam is envenoms but its still annoying af

[fathom crag]

no pvp yet

[gleaming sentinel]

Face an hpal / surv and dev evoker with a destro and priest and just couldn’t do anything

[outer sky]

As surv you can literally just mending every assa go. And if you ever dont have mending just disarm him

[grave basin]

or scatter from 40 yards

[gleaming sentinel]

Destro flamed me and I’m like what am I supposed to do? Lol

[outer sky]

Like an assa rogue has to lock down the surv hunter or doing a go is impossible

And even when he's CCd he can still pet sac which fucks your burst since you rely on crits

Its such a bad match up

[fathom crag]

this gotta be the worst matchup all time for assa

[gleaming sentinel]

Send kingsbane on the pet ez

[gleaming sentinel]

Never felt more useless

[fathom crag]

pala cleansing survival mending & dev playing talent so he can’t get slowed + dispel bleeds

haha

[gleaming sentinel]

I ended up just sitting in the hpal and step kidney dps when I could

Still got rolled

[fathom crag]

and then you got 0 energy cus u çant cleave and it feels miserable

[outer sky]

Part of staying in a good mental space playing this game is identifying which matches youre just not supposed to win. That doesnt mean dont try and win them its just that if you lose dont beat yourself up over it because most likely anyone in your position would have lost there too

[fathom crag]

ye some lobby idm going 2-4 or 3-3 if it’s rly aids

[outer sky]

Ive had lobbies where I was happy with 2-4

Last season I watched Raz queue into an aids lobby and go 2-4 and he said he was just relieved he didnt 0-6

[gleaming sentinel]

I’ve just learned I enjoy shuffle when I don’t care about rating, and I never care on my alts. So my perfect gameplay is just doing pve on main til end of season and playing alts

[wanton breach]

i hate rets

they always die without using bubble or anything

twice

in my team

in the enemy team they press all their cds

ret in the lobby = loss

[outer sky]

The only time I ever tilt anymore is when my teammates throw my win con by fucking my DRs with useless CC. I dont even care anymore if they fuck my DRs just do it with something meaningful. Like I lost a round the other day because my shaman 3x DR cap totem stunned someone 4 seconds before the DR was going to fall off. I wouldn't have been mad if that was a full cap totem stun but like bro wtf did you actually accomplish with your 0.75 second long cap totem? Nothing. Thats the kind of shit that irritates me in shuffle these days.

[gleaming sentinel]

It’s just the nature of the bracket

Not many know how to play with a rogue

My enjoyment is so much better on a character I don’t care about… I mean I am 2550 just vibing

[wet crown]

World pvp question

Notice dudes out there with the scribe item pet from bfa

What does it do? Crazy scaling nonsense going on there?

[outer sky]

Their toolkit is so bloated and their damage rotation is braindead simple so that alone can carry a bad player to a rating they cant really perform at.

Thats why youre noticing them making so many mistakes