pvp

[sharp sierra]

I never really got it down

[harsh kiln]

also shuffles start at a higher damp so there's enough pressure from the get go

[static holly]

Join the void weaver train

Pretty fun

It's like playing DPS but enjoying healer queue times 🤣

Glad I equipped my priest as shadow at the beginning

[languid ravine]

funny I ve had the same experience in Shuffle

FB just feels like clunkier Sub Rogue

[gusty hedge]

u get squelched once then bans start i think you get 4 chances after that then its perma banned. am currently on my 3rd, last was 3month suspension

[grave basin]

Least volatile outlaw enjoyer

@dark kernel

He could be like bigdam and be chill

Unforch

[spring bough]

Welcome back

Just in time for remix today lol

[molten hedge]

I mean as far as melee it’s just assa, feral, and unholy in the rot/bleed category. Ferals not hard you just make sure you get empowered bleeds up during tigers fury with bloodtalons. You don’t HAVE to play bloodtalons. It’s deff better, but you can play the other node that makes it passive. They’re getting rid of bloodtalons in midnight so it’ll be much easier

[dark kernel]

I say some serious shit on twitter

[molten hedge]

Fr? I’m playing assa boomie with fatebound and it does feel like I personally have these very small windows to kill on FB. Maybe I should try DS.

[river pollen]

another example of shadowstep change, i keep teleporting under the thing when i target someone on it, even though theres more than enough space behind them and a whole path inside

[potent pivot]

Someone said they specifically changed these a somewhat long time ago

[river pollen]

Ohh damn

Thanks for the info

[keen canopy]

he forgor

skull emoji as the kids say

[spring bough]

3pm pst is the end for maintenance today

Realistically what time are we logging in 😂

[molten hedge]

3:01

[dark kernel]

Honestly because it's a whole client game mode 7pm central or 8

And I'm deadass

Bliz has been a LOT better about these type a patches but

[river pollen]

look carefully, its not the same thing, this was the cannon which he said we cant tp behind

(we can tho just need to be at certain angle above)

[jade hollow]

How do you play against voidweavers? Outlaw main

[static holly]

No pls don't. Let me kill u

Let me have some fun 🫤

[jaunty mirage]

Train them

One good kick and they are in trouble

[jaunty osprey]

And my bday 😄

[spring bough]

Happy birthday!! Enjoy some Warcraft downtime for the patch 😂

3pm pst estimate more like 6pm pst

[jaunty osprey]

Yeah idk, Fatebound is definitely good and allows for kill windows, but the overall pressure difference is very noticeable lol

[spring bough]

FB coins got a nice 3.5% inc for outlaw. Prob the same for sin

Might be a bit better in arena today

I think that’s overall DPS Inc too. Since heads coins were bugged

[jaunty osprey]

Ya, that’s Giga

The 8% makes our edge flips hit harder

[spring bough]

And that’s the same inc in pvp as it is in pve

So might get some more kills pushed than before

[molten hedge]

Yeah but im playing with a boomie and you with arcane mage. Damage is not really the issue for them but I hit like a noodle most of the time lol. I hate doing like 850k dps with fatebound against some maps/comps

[spring bough]

850k?? Damn I hit 3milly almost on a boomy/mage in shuffle the other day lol

[jaunty osprey]

I mean Arcane mages like to sheep dots off

[molten hedge]

What were they stacked on top of each other the whole game lol

[jaunty osprey]

I still think Deathstalker is better

regardless of teammate

[molten hedge]

I’ve watched Val and Whaazz play fatebound and they do less than a mil dps too sometimes

[jaunty osprey]

As rogue boomy, you’re tabbing a lot

Having rot pressure is good

[spring bough]

The round lasted 36 seconds and I got 18 coin procs

Had a 1.8mil coin

[molten hedge]

Yeaaa fuck off hahahaha

[molten hedge]

Only a mil less dos

Dps

[spring bough]

2mil was wrong. But had another after that was like 2.8mil

[molten hedge]

Yeah the round was too short to even out but that’s huge

[jaunty osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/811668967558873100/1424980017607348375/image.png?ex=68e5eb8f&is=68e49a0f&hm=528b5c9b7e609a08148f7b43eb3aa86c2adfa3fe26056cc7cfb992111d11deaf&

I’m deathstalker, Antijax is Fatebound

[molten hedge]

Is that Jax?

From AWC

[jaunty osprey]

Yes

yes

[molten hedge]

Yeah 700k feels like dogshit

Even if you can one shot once every couple minutes

But I do understand the damage profiles are very different

[jaunty mirage]

Feel like DS has sort of always been better for actual 3s

[molten hedge]

What about shuffle? I guess both could be good depending on matchup

Or do u take DS there to @jaunty osprey

[gleaming sentinel]

Feel like certain lobbies you want fate

[jaunty mirage]

FB is prob still better for shuffle just cause it’s a complete fiesta

[spring bough]

This was my almost 3mil one 😂

Got the numbers mixed between the two but both were under a minute lol

[long shore]

does anyone know if the Blackjack 30% healing reduction does it apply, if the CC is broken by teammates?

e.g. blind is broken by someone breaking it

same for sap

[gleaming sentinel]

Van I swear you get good at setting up / cc you’d be a rank 1 outlaw rofl. You pump

[long shore]

or does the Blackjack healing reduction only apply if they sit the full duration sap / blind?

[spring bough]

I’m a brawler I just wanna pump lol

Gonna have way more opportunity to do that in midnight too. Just stand and bang

[molten hedge]

You can sap someone then switch the sap and blackjack will apply on ur first sapped target. But I’m not sure if breaking it would apply

[spring bough]

Aoe blind in midnight bout to become a blackjack machine

16 or 18 second CD with all the blind talents. Gonna have that shit 50% uptime on enemies

[long shore]

oh nice, breaking it seems to NOT apply the blackjack effect

[grave basin]

lets be real it's gonna get hotfixed nerfed in 24 hours

or pre nerfed before it even hits live

[lilac sigil]

You don’t feel energy starved playing FI + KB compared to standard bleed build with tea and sbs?

[waxen meteor]

200% agree

even when playing in solo shuffle with alt, it's quite obvious

[spring bough]

It’ll be fine

[waxen meteor]

fate has huge pressure at CD, but I hardly notice the rogue off their cd

[spring bough]

[grave basin]

[spring bough]

Aoe blackjack on 16seconds will be fine….. right? Lol

[glass hazel]

it will work only on main target for sure

[dark kernel]

What. There is no way blind is 16 seconds in midnight

CD

[spring bough]

Yeah with all the blind talents it’s some thing around there. Pretty sure it lines up with the new DR timer

Sounds actually pretty OP if combined with blackjack lol

[molten hedge]

That’ll be sick

[spring bough]

The new airborne I think reduced the CD 80% or something. I think it’s 24 seconds without the outlaw tree blind talent

Sorry sin rogues but I’m blinding all ur bleeds off for healing reduction

[jaunty osprey]

Switch depending on matchup

[jaunty osprey]

Oh, I never feel energy starved

But don’t play the build I’m playing LOL

play the normal tea + DS and SBS talents

[spring bough]

Ivan has the super secret build

[jaunty osprey]

Nah it’s the build I’ve been playing since S1

Supercharger forced induction

I play it to make it a point that it doesn’t matter what the fuck your talents are 😭😂

and to just play correctly instead

[spring bough]

lol. That’s like all of season 1 and 2 I was trickster in pvp

[potent pivot]

[dark kernel]

I played some outlaw/demo/voidweaver last night

Shit is hilarious

Michael Vick cleave with all them dogs

[molten hedge]

Ethical comp

[spring bough]

Sounds like I would have been cursing at ur team

I hate a void disc so much rn lol

[static holly]

Went 4-0 so far as VW in blitz... All I did was pew pew pew😄

I like it because it's pretty simple for me to play. Keep up a few shields and do DPS.

[spring bough]

You are the enemy now 😂

[static holly]

Nah

Low mmr

I only did 4 games

Was also only to pass the time till remix. I don't like other classes than rogue

I will maybe just go for the elite set and drop the char again. I want to push my MMR on the rogue for midnight

[grave basin]

earlier than expected??

[static holly]

Idk. EU is fine

[grave basin]

eu doesnt have maintenance today..

[static holly]

In 9 hours

[spring bough]

Oh baby if they are early today midnights gonna be cooking

[grave basin]

i took off from work tmr

max comfy

[spring bough]

I’m tryna “work from home” on Friday so I can blast remix into the weekend

[dark kernel]

I need a vacation

I got to sleep 8 hours last night it was wonderful

[static holly]

Home office is 👌

Working during queues 🤣

[grave basin]

my 3rd is due this feb

right when the new expansion is due

[wintry dew]

Your third what?

Hehehe

For a second yesterday I thought mine was coming 4 weeks earlier

[dark kernel]

RIP

Ahh

I'm sure number 2 will be around the corner for me too in the near future

[grave basin]

that would be bad

[grave basin]

my wife initially wanted 5

im like bruh

[wintry dew]

She started having a lot of contraptions in an irregular interval and we were like oh fuck

[grave basin]

my wife went for her regular check up for our 2nd and the nurse was like, oh btw it's time now

lets get you to the maternity ward

[wintry dew]

LOl

[grave basin]

[wintry dew]

I'm actually kinda expecting that to happen tomorrow

She has a check up

[grave basin]

can always induce

just break the water bag manually

they legit just put a spike up in there and hammer it in

that's gonna be your pov

[wintry dew]

I'm so not ready for the birth itself

We have everything else ready, bags and all

[grave basin]

your first?

[dark kernel]

My kid is 11 months old in a few days. She has not consistently slept since 4 months old. I do all night shifts. I've been only getting 5 to 6 hours of sleep every day for months

[grave basin]

bro she aint gonna sleep through the night till 3 years old

[wintry dew]

Yes, my first baby girl

[fluid trench]

Mines 6, you get the same amount of sleep even now

[grave basin]

Grats bro

Can't really offer much, here's a meme

[wintry dew]

Ahahahahahahah

[spring bough]

Good luck playing king

[dark kernel]

Thanks I'll invest in some rope

[spring bough]

Surprise TRIPLETS you got five now 😂

[grave basin]

nah it's a boy (singular)

so boy - girl - boy

[grave basin]

duelist dad gamers

think of the nice in game weapons

[fluid trench]

Hell yeah

My kid made a mage because she wanted to be like mom

[grave basin]

i showed my son my bald gnome warr and told him it looks just like him

get pwned kid

[grave basin]

haha then i went through the mog list andhe said he liked the dragon set from dragonflight

[dark kernel]

My lifetime goal is a single glad

I could have had multiple years aho

[grave basin]

im just happy if i can maintain elite on my check pvp

[dark kernel]

In fact I got multiple people glad already in tbc

Yeah I haven't even gotten elite

I'm cooked

[grave basin]

this season looks like it's a late elite angle

just hovering at 2.2 rn but havent really played lately

[fluid trench]

My goal is at least 1 more glad but my team can’t adhere to dad gamer queues

[grave basin]

smh my headset

[wanton breach]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504778249164029957/1327387169114951681/fullset.gif

[grave basin]

full set only goated if youre rocking the elite set first week or so for the flex

[spring bough]

Flex on em

[dark kernel]

Playing real 3s has absolutely ruined shuffle for m2

My mental is so much better.

The amount of fucking crowd control people do not help you avoid in shuffle is....

[grave basin]

im gonna stick to brawlers next expac and just yolo queue some 3s no voice

ww/fury/outlaw

outlaw not really a no voice specbut w/e

[gleaming sentinel]

Only mount I use is tbc glad mount rofl

[spring bough]

Okay show off 😂

[gleaming sentinel]

#washeddadmount

[spring bough]

Only tabard I use is the argent dawn/tabard of the protector

[dark kernel]

I got multiple people the brutal mount but not myself, and I missed the merciless and vengeful seasons barely

[gleaming sentinel]

I got merciless and should have the original mount but there was a weird bug. My 2s partner got it but I didn’t, we only played together lol

[spring bough]

I would harass them with tickets and emails over it

[dark kernel]

Haarp era

Mace stun hemo

Good times

[fluid trench]

F

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-crocker-timmy-turner-fairly-odd-parents-super-f-meme-gif-1224341026557759176

[jaunty mirage]

I have 7 glad mounts and have used nzoth tentacle boi on basically every char since I got it

[harsh kiln]

it's time

this bad boy can live so many stuns

[spring bough]

Honestly. I’m between kul tiran and regular Tauren for midnight

That aoe stomp stun might be OP with losing cheap spams

[harsh kiln]

bull rush for highmountain is more fun;)

[spring bough]

How well does it work

Cause they have reduce dmg taken too

[harsh kiln]

it's a charge straight ahead for 1 sec

stuns targets caught

oh

well

[spring bough]

Oh it stuns I didn’t know that

[harsh kiln]

i'm 11-1 in 2s atm

but that's in 2s

[spring bough]

Damn what to I make on remix first

Tauren or kul tiran

[harsh kiln]

haven't tried shuffle yet, gonna get my gear first and then push r1

[jaunty mirage]

Outlaw always seems like one of those specs that’s cool and then I play it and just can’t get into it and give up very quickly

[harsh kiln]

keep in mind outlaw is going to change in midnight @spring bough

[jaunty mirage]

I want to like it, but I don’t

[spring bough]

Wym

I already got a couple specs filled out to try lol

[harsh kiln]

like if you're basing your choice now on how outlaw plays currently

racewise

[spring bough]

For race? I’m basing it on midnight

No more night elf cause I don’t need meld for offense

[harsh kiln]

good sstuff

[spring bough]

And I’m def not using meld for defense

Rather have a charge, haymaker or aoe stun in midnight

[jaunty mirage]

I’d rather look good

World of fashioncraft

[fathom crag]

orc ig

[spring bough]

Are we back to stun reduction meta lol

[pliant lintel]

shadowmeld cheap shot

[spring bough]

That’s what my one vanish is for

[static holly]

Will Always be orc or nelf 🫤

[gusty hedge]

undead druid when

[halcyon timber]

DRs are capped at 2 and 16s refresh but we can do real damage now instead of stun support so prob not

[spring bough]

Ight so either high mountain or kul tiran for me

[halcyon timber]

For sure man do what you want

No more micro cc and a lot of classes lost their stuff

[spring bough]

Can’t wait to not get triple sheeped

Or triple cloned

[halcyon timber]

Grapple weapon - mistweaver
Mages have blast wave after blinking (from original position) only as sunfury

A lot of abilities are on choice nodes now and pvp talents replace the choice node decision( ring of peace is replaced by ox kick if taken) etc

[hidden moth]

servers down wtf?

[halcyon timber]

Currently doing a deep recon list and will probably upload it for our rogues to track on our enemies. Working on too many projects atm

[hidden moth]

is there more beta changes?

[halcyon timber]

No more random freezes / roots from frost mage but water elemental is back etc for fairness and balance

[halcyon timber]

Lots of things we have to dig into but yeah a lot more than initially claimed / found

Should be a positive experience for all while not enforcing unhealthy paradigms and gimmicks

[hidden moth]

so no new posts just

more shit found on test realms

[halcyon timber]

Oh yes i see what you mean. Existing changes that weren’t put in blue post specifically but are noted when we dig into the midnight calculator.

Like warrior’s cheat death as fury only i think

[hidden moth]

ah gotcha, thought they droped the next shit. waiting on vdh apex talents and dh class tree talents

[halcyon timber]

Yeah i believe it is all on wow dev radar but for legal reasons didnt specifically say “when” but should be another build thurs/ friday from other alphas and betas ive tested. Tba for sure man

Possibly something released today as well but dunno what batching sequence they are doing this time or planning.

[halcyon timber]

I would think VDH and Havoc are in a pending state due to Devourer sharing nodes so something reasonable is likely to be made soon while not making something ridiculous to have to intervene on later. Devourer has a talent that makes them have 50% more armor as an example

Armor of Souls
Tank Specs – Row 1 PvP Talent
Requires Demon Hunter
Requires level 20
Your Armor is increased by 50%. Taking damage has a 12% chance to generate a soul fragment.
(Proc chance: 12%)

All weighed into “if we give them and Vengeance X, then we have to cut down Y so it doesn’t get out of hand”

[keen canopy]

me watching as the devourer dh who took all the void meta and collapsing star damage increase talents and pvp talents brings my hp from 100 - 0 in 1 cast

[pliant lintel]

meld sap then? .. the classic

[halcyon timber]

Yeah balance must be maintained.

Collapsing star being non interruptable via a pvp talents is very strong. Definitely a gouge moment

[hidden moth]

potential blind if not assa as well

[halcyon timber]

Yeah def agreed, case by case depending on the situation for sure

[hidden moth]

meld it los it vanish it, hit em with the good ol, step as its about to cast so it fails bc they arnt facing u

[halcyon timber]

Least expensive to most weighing risk vs reward

[hidden moth]

ye

[halcyon timber]

Ol goku spirit bomb inc

Inevitable End
Tank Specs – Row 1 PvP Talent
Requires Demon Hunter
Requires level 15
Collapsing Star can no longer be interrupted and its damage is increased by 25%.

For reference of those interested

[keen canopy]

not to be confused with inevitabile end

[hidden moth]

why it say "tank specs

[halcyon timber]

Just a trigger via coding is all

I do it too on my stuff in data blocks

[spring bough]

I haven’t resapped in a game in years…. Is that bad?

[halcyon timber]

I sapped a paladin when a warlock feared him. I used the locks gate to do it heh

[pliant lintel]

sap is op

[halcyon timber]

Was luck he fell out if combat

The damn arcane cloaks eff timers sometimes

[pliant lintel]

ye

[halcyon timber]

Kinda want to save conquest to get a normal cloak

[pliant lintel]

i bomb kidneys to sap out, works a treat

[halcyon timber]

Yeah ive been using bomb specifically when a priest flies in the air like marry poppins lately

[wet crown]

watch them not tune us accordingly anyway kekw

[halcyon timber]

Shall see man. I hear you big time

[wet crown]

Seeing paladin gain instead of lose isn't confidence inspiring

[halcyon timber]

At least repent is axed and searing glare replaces blinding light if taken

Priest gaining a divebomb fear immunity was interesting

[wet crown]

barely. just means paladins have a broken cc that doesn't dr

_>

[halcyon timber]

Like a holy ward kinda deal

I dunno of SG was updated to be a DR as a Disorient or is still factually classified as a non school CC still in Midnight

[wet crown]

unsure, would have to grab someone else for a test

Safe bet that destro and affliction are gonna be a proper threat.

[halcyon timber]

Netherwalk being absorbed into blur as a 2.5s immunity is something to watch out for too.

[halcyon timber]

Yeah they directly benefit from less CC for sure. I def need to keep tabs on them to see how they changed in tools and such as well. I saw Affliction went back to UA stacking vs MR stuff.

[spring bough]

Question is can they attack during that

Cause the flip side of that node buffs blur like 10%

Either seems OP

[halcyon timber]

Likely bc it is blur, not old netherwalk

So the counterplay is to create small distance outside of it id think

[wet crown]

i was just saying like

aff has actual pressure now

outside darkglare

[halcyon timber]

Yeah im happy to see all classes moving forward

[wet crown]

you get 5 uas on you you just kinda dead

[halcyon timber]

Not gimmicks and silly constraints

[wet crown]

idk about that

feels like a lot of them are going backwards, some are going nowhere, and some are exactly the same but better

[halcyon timber]

Healers will be dispelling earlier and such

[wet crown]

you can tell which classes devs play lol

[halcyon timber]

Lots of classes arent fully built as it is alpha and we are on an old build. The full picture isnt there yet and is expected

Wow devs are usually a few builds ahead historically (they have been keeping good pace). More tba and i wouldn’t worry.

[halcyon timber]

• Netherwalk has been redesigned – Now a passive skill. Slip into the nether when you activate Blur, increasing movement speed by 100% and becoming immune to damage for 2.5 seconds.
• Desperate Instincts has been redesigned – Blur now reduces damage taken by an additional 10%. Additionally, damage taken below 35% Health is reduced by 10%.
• Blur now reduces damage taken by 25% (was 20%) and no longer increases Dodge chance.

From the blue post regarding that first alpha build for complete transparency and truth

So “could” still gouge / sap / blind just like netherwalk did functionally work unless during Glimpse etc.

This also means no more dodging from behind but would still encourage you to hold stunning them anyway

[spring bough]

Desperate instincts seems OP

A passive 10% dmg reduction below 35% lol

Ontop of 10% more on blur

[halcyon timber]

Likely active monitoring from dev end and us rogues will have to do more intel gathering

[spring bough]

Any1 on? Has the 3pm PST changed yet

[gusty hedge]

its live

[hidden moth]

finishing this fucking awc toon

gonna kill myself with how abysmal its been xfering my settings

[spring bough]

I think I shit myself yall. Walking up my front steps. Look to my left and I’m like hmm what’s that black thing on the tree? Oh a god damn bear the size of a small car 🤦‍♂️

[spring bough]

Copy the char folder that’s in the WTF folder that’s the fastest to copy the keybinds

[hidden moth]

it doesnt have my edit modes etc

[spring bough]

Oh no lol

[hidden moth]

@vocal surge gotta redo gear

bc its 6/8 myth rn

[spring bough]

It’s tomorrow at 6pm right?

Ima get my stuff setup now and then hit up remix till then lol

[hidden moth]

are u the 3rd

bro never said who the 3rd was lmfao

[spring bough]

Yeah lol

You silence these damn healers and we just blow them the fk up 😂

[hidden moth]

u both playing outlaw?

or sub

[spring bough]

We them outlaw boys

[vocal surge]

Aye

Double Outlaw + Assa

cleave kill

[hidden moth]

okay this some bs

edit mode profiles dont save

but all my addon profiles did transfer perfectly across without me doing shit

hmmm do i go aoe bleed death stalker or more burst kb fatebound

[gleaming sentinel]

im fighting the urge to just not make another rogue for remix

[dark kernel]

im just making classes I dont have

I did mop remix, theres no point playing a class you already have

[hidden moth]

new racial options

might delete my belf dh thats max just to level it with same name on remix

'lolol

[gleaming sentinel]

what if i want to q 5 rogues in shuffle instead of 4

[hidden moth]

ight where buy pvp ring/ neck recipes for awc realm

nvm

30% vers should be plenty and im bout to hit mastery 2nd soft cap

@potent pivot how high should i try to push this mast im at 80% and still got 2 ring enchants left to go

[outer sky]

I could have gotten this forever ago but i split my queues between my 3 rogues. But can check this off for the season

[hidden moth]

lmfaoo @outer sky wtaf is this stat

[outer sky]

cracked 2.6 too

[hidden moth]

fucking pog

[outer sky]

avoidance? what are you asking?

[hidden moth]

81% mast

im on the awc server fixing up gear, trying to decide if i want less vers or mast for haste

or yolo it 30% 81%

[outer sky]

heres my stats on live

[hidden moth]

did u gem crit/ chant it?

[outer sky]

no

its because I have the conq badge trinket equipped

it gives a lot of crit

[hidden moth]

ah i have the alacrity one

[hidden moth]

do u macro the on use one into anything?

or just send with kb

[outer sky]

i macro it with KB

because its safe to do that even if you play inevitable end

since youll always want to send the envenoms in the 15 seconds following kingsbane

because thats how long Cold Blood lasts

and how long the badge buff lasts

and Inevitable End wont let anything besides the envenoms consume it so even if you need a few globals its still fine

Here's my Kingsbane macro

But I have tea on its own bind still

I macrod it in though because i couldnt think of a time where i'd ever want to send all of this but not tea

[hidden moth]

where tf does this model of king slayers come from

[hidden moth]

true

i just have tea on its own bind as well

[outer sky]

I do too

because i pair it with shivs

[vocal surge]

Btw, gonna use these bad bois?

Huge 50% more Reshii Wrap proc rate

[outer sky]

but i dont see any reason NOT to macro ito KB as well

[hidden moth]

wraps says proc is turned off

[outer sky]

yes that's BiS at the mythic level like you have it.

I've considered buying a carry with a loot funnel for them

[vocal surge]

Rip or prob bug

[hidden moth]

we killed them this week on my lock

well

last week before reset

ight where tf does this king slayer mog come from

[pale storm]

It’s the mage tower appearance, unavailable now

[hidden moth]

FUCKKKK

AND BLIZZ DIDNT WANT THEM BACK IN THE GAME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[outer sky]

mine say the same thing. And i talked to Hashim but theres no option that fixes it

[hidden moth]

so awc realms no cloak proc

how diff does fatebound play over death stalker

[outer sky]

no

im on live

and it says this

[hidden moth]

interesting

[gleaming pawn]

Could easily be a silent nerf after Blizz saw the AWC

[spring bough]

thank god for skill capped... edit mode copied over perfect

[vocal surge]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-anime-mental-breakdown-cringe-gif-27026754

Tail Coin damage is soooooooooooo huge

[hidden moth]

god damn

[vocal surge]

Doing double what I'd normally do on Retail

[spring bough]

where is the cape at

on what vendor

[outer sky]

ok so even though the cloak appears broken, it still procs

so its just a tooltip error

[noble venture]

What's the clean way to survive as assa & disc VS bm hunter & disc? Saving vanish and etc to LOS bestial wrath/trap?
Around 2300 in 2v2, we find that they deal too much damage to keep up with

[vocal surge]

Healer fears pet

[noble venture]

Often you cant

They have a talent that stops it iirc

[outer sky]

wait did they announce they were increasing pvp item levels?

All my shit has been bumped up to ilvl 730

[vocal surge]

Dont think so

But I just upgraded all my pieces up to 730

[harsh kiln]

they were increasing everything right?

[vocal surge]

it was 723 last night

now its 730

[outer sky]

Holy fuck I just hit a 4m Kingsbane on a player in pvp!

[noble venture]

Outside of bestial wrath?

[molten hedge]

I usually hit 3.5 mil crits

[noble venture]

Just checked.. I was only half right with the talent thing

Only applies during bestial wrath

[outer sky]

yeah if theyre below 35% i usually hit like 2.8-3.3m crits

ive never seen 4m before

[molten hedge]

Maybe they geared low versa or it was a mage. My biggest hits are on mages hahah

[vocal surge]

Us rogues in AWC seeing our abilities not hit for -10% damage

[vocal surge]

Both

pets are the biggest damage source for BM hunters

[noble venture]

This is the talent btw

Most hunters we face play it

[vocal surge]

oh rip

[noble venture]

Maybe fear is good for a Fenryr proc or etc

Unsure

[outer sky]

this poor guy didn't stand a chance lmfao

[vocal surge]

Popped him for 6.6M

lol

[molten hedge]

This was a few weeks ago. By far the most dam I did in 1.2 secs lol everything crit

I think it was 14 or 15 mil total

After all the little stuff added up

[noble venture]

Does anyone else feel like Kingsbane is a more impactful CD than Deathmark?

[vocal surge]

This was mine Week 1

[outer sky]

This wasnt me obviously but its by far the most hilarious death log ive seen. This guy was 100% hp AND had a 3m absorb shield on top of that and he still got 100-0'd in 0.5 seconds

[hidden moth]

YES

TURBO BOOST

makes all mythic and hero tracks go 6/6 to 6/8

[molten hedge]

Jfc I never played outlaw when coin was op

[hidden moth]

so pve max ilvl is 630 so pvp gear has to follow suit

[vocal surge]

I saw I had 15 coins

tail coins btw

and muttered "I win."

and proceeded to orbital bombard the druid with rods (tail coins) going at the speed of light

Whole lobby as like "Combat OP???"

[molten hedge]

Must have been nice. That was ur fun for the xpac

[vocal surge]

Was memeing about it hard

as that image was going around on the forums

[hidden moth]

@spring bough

[spring bough]

i dont have the create button

now i do.... jesus all i had to do was close it smh

[outer sky]

did we get buffed or something?

i think i read something about fatebound in the tuning notes

im doing noticibly more damage

[vocal surge]

bug fix on Head coins

~3.5% DPS increase

1st coin was only giving 2% damage amp instead of 10%

[outer sky]

thats significant in a go

[spring bough]

it is high mountain tauren time on remix yall

why does it always take so long to setup addons and bars lol

[outer sky]

when i make a new class i always have a hard time deciding what keybind to put things on.

Because I always try and assign abilities to keybinds I already have for similar things on my rogue

[spring bough]

i used the same on every chars lol

i try to lineup kicks on the same keybinds

doing that type of stuff takes long lol

[outer sky]

like on rogue my kidney shot is 2

so on ret my HoJ is 2

on monk my leg sweep is 2

etc

my interrupt is always 7

[spring bough]

this game keeps DCing me

like i can type and do stuff but i cantt logout

[vocal surge]

Its a siren

[spring bough]

better blizz frames

thats what it was

that addon always gives me problems

[molten hedge]

My nameplate length always changes smh

[outer sky]

I use nPlates and I'll never switch

[spring bough]

yeah better blizz plates does that

[outer sky]

everything else looks weird

[spring bough]

u will in midnight XD

[outer sky]

ugh

[spring bough]

dw they look pretty good

(im coping)

[outer sky]

this is just such a nice set up

[spring bough]

those look pretty good

looks similar to what blizz is cookin

[outer sky]

well thats good at least

[spring bough]

oh wow there is so many nodes on these new artifact weps lol

"cause your cooldowns to recover 1000% faster for 3 seconds" outlaw is cracked yall

[hidden moth]

bro

luxthos goated frt fr

[outer sky]

Yeah I honestly think Blizz should hire him as a consultant for the midnight UI rework

[hidden moth]

they wont

blizz wont shell any money out to make their game better

but i legit use his w/a for every class lol

[potent pivot]

Atrocity mogs luxthos

[hidden moth]

whats ur beef

what did luxthos do

[potent pivot]

Nothing lol I just don’t like his WAs

[hidden moth]

fair, for me its just a simpler set up for my bars and nto staring at cds dfown theree

[potent pivot]

Ye I’m saying atrocity makes way better WA packs

If blizz was gonna hire a UI guy I think it should be him fr

[hidden moth]

never heard of atrocity

[hidden moth]

got it on dh as well

[spring bough]

seems like a lot shared

we get 60% movement speed too

[spring bough]

#showtooltip 16
/run SocketInventoryItem(16)

macro to open the artifact thingy

[potent pivot]

should check out there entire ui pack

its on the wago app

but

you have to twitch prime him on twitch or sub to get it

[spring bough]

sure lets use that for a couple months and then delete it for midnight XD

or is it more than WA lol

[potent pivot]

i feel bad for the guys that use his UI because its so cracked and about to be gone

[potent pivot]

its more than WA

[spring bough]

i moved into SUI recently

[potent pivot]

its basically this

but for all specs in the game

cleanest pve UI ever imo idk

[spring bough]

im somehow collecting voidsplinters on the timerunner

pretty cool lol

[potent pivot]

How is remix so far

[spring bough]

laggy

[potent pivot]

I still have a week or two on my sub I might try it

[spring bough]

i turn a quest in and its like 1 mississippi 2 mississippi 3 mississippi oh okay now it handed in lol

intro area felt slow

but got the artifact wep and i got speed boosts now

[potent pivot]

Sounds pretty normal for a content drop

[spring bough]

waiting for a dungeon pop rn

they have that 4 choice weekly thing in remix

so i went with dungeons

[potent pivot]

How easy is it supposed to be to get all the artifacts

[spring bough]

gonna spam dungeons while i do order hall campaign

[spring bough]

you can get 2 off the bat ez in like 45min or so

1 from the infinite bronze guys and the 2nd from the order hall campaign

[potent pivot]

If it’s faster to get them all on remix I may do that

[spring bough]

a ton of rogues in here rn

hall of shadows is bustling

yeah i got another wep

its going fast lol

[potent pivot]

I wonder if the balance of power mogs are acc wide like live

[spring bough]

wym

already got the original legion invasion set done lol

[potent pivot]

Like on live you only have to do the balance of power quest line on 1 char I think right

For all classes

[spring bough]

im getting lost here trickz lol

i thought it was just for that class not all classes

im prob wrong

[potent pivot]

They changed it

In DF iirc

[spring bough]

go smash a rogue then unlock it for all

im doing every part of this order hall stuff

finally gonna unlock the rogue set i just need the legs from clearing 8 dungeons

[spring bough]

bull rush is fun

you can just keep repeating this dungeon quest for boxes pretty crazy lol

[woven gale]

Nop. I have done it on my Lock and Mage and don't have any Balance of Power appearances on others

[potent pivot]

You did one after the change?

Cuz I’m pretty positive

[jaunty mirage]

So it’s only for chars that complete it after they changed it?

What a rip

[potent pivot]

Idk I’m spitballing

Ive never done the quest line but I’m pretty sure they made that change in DF

[jaunty mirage]

I did it on one char back in like bfa

[potent pivot]

if @wintry dew sees this I’m sure he’ll know for sure

But if you look it up, it’s says it was changed to be acc wide in like 10.0.7

[wintry dew]

Me, randomly awake at 3 am

[spring bough]

time to do remix yall

campaign quests going fast

[wintry dew]

Balance of power, once done in a character, it's acc wide (as notrickz said)

[potent pivot]

[jaunty mirage]

Like including people who did it before DF?

[wintry dew]

Yes

Everyone

[jaunty mirage]

Noice

[wintry dew]

I did mine in legion

I have them all

[jaunty mirage]

I’ve never checked my other chars tbh

[wintry dew]

They are there, at least 1 or 2 recolours out of the 4

[jaunty mirage]

Lot of the legion weapon skins I don’t use so I guess I just never noticed

[wintry dew]

Most likely

[potent pivot]

Well there ya go @woven gale

Should have them unlocked

[potent pivot]

Any idea of unlocking them in remix is even easier or acc wide?

[noble venture]

What's the clean way to survive as assa & disc VS bm hunter & disc? Saving vanish and etc to LOS bestial wrath/trap?
Around 2300 in 2v2, we find that they deal too much damage to keep up with

[wintry dew]

Acc wide most likely to continue, easier depends on rng if everything stays the same

Problem of balance of power was the rng quest items dropped from bosses

[potent pivot]

Ah

I was thinking there might be a different way to unlock them on remix

[wintry dew]

As in get 20 items from emerald nightmare or nighthold

[potent pivot]

Instead of doing the whole quest line

[wintry dew]

Good question but idk. If anything they would just increase the drops, in case they unlock the quest

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

only one way to find out

[potent pivot]

waiting for someone to find out and post information online. indeed.

[spring bough]

or just play it lmao

what i gotta find out is are we looting mobs or letting it send to the mailbox to open later

[woven gale]

Suramar is gonna be funny to do

Make NB

Do the questline

"Wait how are you cured of your magic crack addiction already?"

Also pro tip for peps

If your getting lag where your questing

Enter heroic world

Different phase

[potent pivot]

why would you do that

oh

nvm

the mop remix strat

[spring bough]

yup

[potent pivot]

i forgot lol

[spring bough]

looting first character gonna to that on others

[potent pivot]

i did like 8 chars during mop remix too

[spring bough]

we get artifact power now tho

and its pretty OP lol

[potent pivot]

yeah

[woven gale]

Wont work theres no XP item

[spring bough]

oh damn didnt even realize that lol

thats why it feels slower leveling

[woven gale]

Also will be slower in normal Azure

if your there

Cause lag

Im also getting heavy nostalgia hits lmao

[spring bough]

im just rinse repeating this infinite power normal dungeon quest

[woven gale]

Second I got into the undead night elf dungeon I immediately just thought of "Kurtalos. They come for you." "They do."

[outer sky]

I thought they fixed this BS

[noble venture]

Does anyone know of some high CR 2v2 assa vods ? I'm even happy with very old ones, I'm finding it hard to figure shit out ahah

[gleaming sentinel]

This kyveza fight gonna kill me boys

[potent pivot]

you could try pikaboo's youtube channel

he's the only person i can think of that might have some 2v2 assa somewhere on his channel

[noble venture]

Maybe he will, I'll check 👍

[potent pivot]

@spring bough apparently if you get a cache you should wait til max lvl to open

the ilvl scales with your lvl when opening ig

[spring bough]

I can talk in trade chat on remix to retail is that supposed to happen lol

[potent pivot]

highly doubt it lmao

[spring bough]

Think I’m gonna open caches

[grave basin]

so um

thanks blizzard?

[spring bough]

And I’ll save caches around 70-80 to open at 80

[gleaming sentinel]

Someone goofed

[spring bough]

GG bars

[grave basin]

bro someone did this on purpose

has to be

like an internal revolt against the guy who said no MT skins

[spring bough]

DW that last week will give us them

[grave basin]

i cant main feral cause i dont have this MT skin

like physically impossible

[potent pivot]

huh

[grave basin]

huh

nothing to see move along

[potent pivot]

you got that on remix?

[grave basin]

thats dorn

do you have MT completed on live?

on your druid

[potent pivot]

like SL MT?

[grave basin]

doesnt matterr when

[potent pivot]

i have it done on my rogue

[grave basin]

as long as you have it done on your druid

any spec

[potent pivot]

[grave basin]

do MT on druid any spec- create time runner - choose balance and select balance artifact

[potent pivot]

wtf lol

[grave basin]

youll get the non balance MT skins (bear and cat)

exploit early, exploit often gogo

[spring bough]

Wait what

[potent pivot]

sadly i don't have it done on my druid

which one is the feral challenge

[grave basin]

takes 5mins to do it with some cheese

[spring bough]

Oh shit I’m about to go create a Druid

What do I do when I get on it 😂

[grave basin]

doesnt get easier than this bruh

[potent pivot]

oh its the imp lady ew

[grave basin]

my timerunner druid is lvl 11

made it just for the skin

[spring bough]

So I just need to get the artifact wep on it then

Oh sick. Did it on rogue so I can just skip to wep

[spring bough]

do it on guardian it was ez

its the guy thats on the edge of the cliff and u gottta do the spinny stuff

[potent pivot]

i get the feeling if i go do the mt on mine rn it'll be fixed before i get done lmao

[spring bough]

you prob got time

[grave basin]

now time for the real toon

[spring bough]

i hope they dont take it back lolol

[grave basin]

im pretty sure this is druid exlusive

[potent pivot]

wonder if they'll go in and remove them from people's accounts

[grave basin]

cause it's via barber shop

not transmog tab

[potent pivot]

yeah

most likely

[grave basin]

i can just see from this HMT warr i just made

[spring bough]

confirmed i have the MT guardian druid appearance now and theres nothing but druids in the barber shop room

[potent pivot]

they missed such a massive opportunity to just add them back idk

[spring bough]

i have all 4 colors

holy shit

[grave basin]

thank me later

[potent pivot]

lmfao

[grave basin]

[potent pivot]

how does one cheese the mt

using TWW consumes?

[spring bough]

Unbridled potion

And drums

[grave basin]

um, theres some embelishments you can make that arent reduced

[potent pivot]

my druid is still in s1 gear with Lens

i can make w/e tho

[grave basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjsyT8tfhVg

main thing iare there two trinkets + weapon emelishment + writhing armor banding

i did the shaman one with this and had like 50% verse perma

[potent pivot]

oh god

is it legion trinkets?

[grave basin]

idk but you can buy it from AH

[potent pivot]

oh

[spring bough]

You can do it without all that lol

[potent pivot]

the alchemy trinket

[spring bough]

Telling you. Unbridled potion. It’s still OP asf

And just go guardian moonbeam spec

And you’ll cheese it

[potent pivot]

oh the tank one?

[spring bough]

It does damage the potion for like 1 min

And it’s scaling is whacked

Ima be refreshing wowhead all day tomorrow to make sure this Druid stuff doesn’t go away lol

hoping it means that last week is MT coming back cause its still a ??? week lol

[potent pivot]

i have a feeling they'll be able to fix some sort of filter on the dressing room idk

[spring bough]

too many people gonna complain now

they just gotta leave it and open MT for mogs lol

[potent pivot]

there's gonna be people complaining on both sides

[spring bough]

i wonder if it unlocked MT wep appearances on any classes

[potent pivot]

'you let us get it then took it away'
'you can't let these plebs have my ultra exclusive cosmetic!!!'

[wet crown]

They need to just buckle under pressure

[spring bough]

this

[wet crown]

of all the 'prestige' appearances, mage tower was the easiest.

like if you had intended gear (tomb or higher) it was a joke

[spring bough]

im still hopeful that surprise last week they gonna be like MT IS OPEN

[wet crown]

wishful thinking

be happy to claim my demo mt skin tho

[spring bough]

i mean why else would that type of bug hit

[wet crown]

because funni

[spring bough]

they gotta be planning something hopefully right LMAO

[wet crown]

they'll hotfix it right before my raid ends

watch

[spring bough]

Ofc the “premium” wowhead user is an elitist

[wet crown]

probably peaks in lfr

[spring bough]

How are people 40 already in remix

[woven gale]

Not hard really

Dont deal with laggy zones

[spring bough]

Sounds like hero mode gives more xp

[woven gale]

Questing in heroic gives 25k for the repeatable quest

And no lag

[spring bough]

Oh my

[potent pivot]

some ppl are 70 already

[spring bough]

Bout to go switch to heroic mode

Quarter of the way there boys

Already 200% movement speed in stealth

[hybrid sapphire]

can someone tell me why tf i lost every single one of these

one of the priests even told me to kidney the enemy healer and i did and they died even faster

not sure what i should be targeting. i was the only one who won 0

(they died even faster = my team died even faster)

[hidden moth]

how hard is mage tower legit?

[hidden moth]

is it even hard thouhg

[potent pivot]

sort of yeah

depends on the player obviously

[grave basin]

well if you can make something sorta hard to not hard at all might as well

[jaunty mirage]

Some of them are actually challenging

[hidden moth]

just gonna go do boomy mage tower

takes what 10 minutes?

[potent pivot]

give or take

gonna depend on number of attempts

like puppets said, some of them are actually pretty challenging

[spring bough]

You gonna finish it just in time for the hotfix

[stoic spruce]

What are we talm bout?

[grave basin]

how hard is it?

[stoic spruce]

Oh that

I forgot to test that

[grave basin]

yea totally we're talkinga bout this

[stoic spruce]

[grave basin]

[stoic spruce]

You sassin me?

[jaunty mirage]

Sp and destro were pretty annoying

[manic steppe]

why couldnt this game mechanic be for every class...

[potent pivot]

What game mechanic

[manic steppe]

the druid thing

[potent pivot]

The one I hated the most was the aff one I think

[potent pivot]

That’s a bug not a mechanic tho

[jaunty mirage]

Yeah I think aff and sp are the same one

[potent pivot]

The same as frost mage iirc?

[jaunty mirage]

Yeah

Exceptionally annoying

[potent pivot]

Where you had to kite to infinity and beyond etc

[jaunty mirage]

Yeah lmao

[potent pivot]

Yeah

My brain really isn’t wired for ranged classes regardless so like

That one sucked ass

[manic steppe]

ye i know just making fun of it

[jaunty mirage]

I mean I played sp main for an entire expansion and I still hated that one lol

[potent pivot]

The healer one was the hardest on SL release I think

Never even tried it

[jaunty mirage]

I think I tried one of the rogue ones like one time and lost interest

[potent pivot]

Yeah it’s pretty wild, probably going to be pretty controversial this week lmao

[potent pivot]

I liked the sub/assa ones

Didn’t care for the outlaw one(Agatha)

[jaunty mirage]

Was assa the same as demo?

[potent pivot]

Same as arcane

[jaunty mirage]

With the three Vikings or whatever

[potent pivot]

Yeah

Arcane could just nuke the fight in 1 minute on release

Took like 6-8 on assa idr

[jaunty mirage]

Ok yeah that one was annoying on demo but mostly because I never played demo in my entire life

[potent pivot]

Yeah that’ll do it lol

[jaunty mirage]

Someone was like “demo is braindead easy” and I was like hell yeah and then started doing it and I was like man I don’t even know what buttons to press

[potent pivot]

I still wanted to go back and get the mount one day but idk

[jaunty mirage]

Which Mount

[manic steppe]

love being an eu player tho

[potent pivot]

The spell tome or w/e it’s called

The flying book

[stoic spruce]

I'm glad they're toning down buttons for classes because to me, the "X class is harder than Y class" argument is so stupid and subjective

[woven gale]

So

Epochs are broken for me, idk if they are broken for everyone

The warband wide XP boosts aren't applying to my alts

[jaunty mirage]

Ahh yeah

[stoic spruce]

How's remix

My rogue was super strong on the ptr a long time ago, did that remain intact?

They made changes since

🦗 🦗 🦗

[manic steppe]

dont think anyone is playing everyone is making druids

[stoic spruce]

Oy vey

Do they expect to keep the druid forms?

[manic steppe]

dont know

what you think

[stoic spruce]

That this exact thing happened last time and it got removed

And people will be pissed their obviously bugged reward will be removed

[manic steppe]

you mean the frogs?

[stoic spruce]

Idr, too long ago.

Could've been

Doesn't druid have weapons and forms?

In legion

[manic steppe]

dont know tbh

[potent pivot]

ye

[stoic spruce]

The code to WoW is its own living being tbh

[potent pivot]

its mostly forms though

i think they only got 4 tints (1 wep appearance)

or balance and resto got weps

feral/bear got forms

some shit

[stoic spruce]

That's weird

I understand how it'd bug out then

No better QA test than sending it live

[manic steppe]

people on reddit are that its an inside job for them to give mt again

[stoic spruce]

That's amazing

If they were recolors I'd believe them

I do think that if they bring back the currently available artifact reskins (emphasis on "currently available"), it'd be the ass end of remix.

So reddit can have something to chew on ig

[manic steppe]

ye some people said that aswell

to boost player numbers

[stoic spruce]

Sad part is

We know that they exist since Legion

Because of dataminers

There's a silver and black nighthold DK set

It's so sick

Never made it live

[manic steppe]

im a giga new player to wow so alot of things i would love to have but blizz loves fomo so rip

[stoic spruce]

Yeah...

Damn you missed out lol

[manic steppe]

ye ik

[stoic spruce]

I think MT recolors are the perfect middle ground

That way people keep their trophy and new players get something similar

[manic steppe]

even something like the illusion from shadowlands pre-order i would love to have but i started wow end of df season 4

or was it collectors edition

[stoic spruce]

Hmmm

I should buy the collectors addition for midnight

Maybe

Depends on how remix turns out

I will say

As someone who lost their MT appearances when moving out of their dads house

I don't really care for them

Personally

Outlaws sucked and Unholys was goated

But idk I never used it

Bloods was cool too ig

Thats just me tho

[manic steppe]

ye outlaw got done dirty lowkey

[stoic spruce]

[manic steppe]

like assa and sub i really like

but outlaw is just ass

[stoic spruce]

Yeah

That's why you don't see me begging for them to return

[manic steppe]

i guess

can always use the other ones tho

[stoic spruce]

Yeah for sure

I still don't have all the thunderfury colors

[manic steppe]

ye same

[hidden moth]

What pots are cheezing this mage tower

[stoic spruce]

I need more recolors of the second one

[stoic spruce]

Is MT a thing in remix?

[potent pivot]

Scroll up to where azliey brought it up

A couple people mentioned diff things and linked a vid

[stoic spruce]

Trickz

Is MT in remix?

As in, it giving rewards

[potent pivot]

i don't think so? no idea tho fr

[static holly]

No it's not

Also no pvp stuff

FYI - there will be a catch up 10/12. So you don't need to rush now, as also things are again timegated

[halcyon timber]

Article on wowhead said people are getting stuff like the cat forms but will likely be hot fixed tomorrow

No MT im remix per another article and blue notes

[hidden moth]

so its legit

kil mage tower on druid

then go pick up scythe of elune as boomie in remix

and gg

@grave basin

[grave basin]

yea gg

[hidden moth]

i didnt get it

just killed mage tower on live

as boomy

and did remix boomie got scythe

nothin

they hot fix it already???

[grave basin]

erm, let me check

nope i still have it

[hidden moth]

hmmm

[grave basin]

still have the bear too

still have the options

[hidden moth]

hmmm

maybe i do a new boomie on remix

[grave basin]

how do i even increase my weapon ilvl?

is it just rng drops?

my gear is 12x and my wep is still 6x

[hidden moth]

did it give any acheievement to tell u u got it to work

rip

did as u said

kill mage tower on boomie

make boomie on timewalk

got syche of elune as boomie

no forms

tried step 2 2x

[gilded gulch]

boomy didnt have a magetower form