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is this the macro you really use, and you just add it to dynamic macros?
ended the game with a 5 cap but 2 bases finished a second before the game ended RIP
we did it boys
Grats!
i capped FR off the start of the match versus 2 rets with my boomy peeling to help
they both blew bubbles mad early LMAO
Hey guys for fatebound assas, do we macro cold blood and kingsbane together?
Our go is every 1.5mins and do we vanish too?
blitz gives crests now... when did they add that to the game? lol
dayum
3 peat yall. 25 more wins and a 3 peat strategist
If you're playing cold blood, then ye, and your go is every time you have kb
Yes correct
gz gz
Your go is every minute. And no don't vanish just to burst but you can vanish for cheap shots and garrote silences if you need CC. The ony extra instant damage you get from a vanish is the extra 20% crit chance from Master Assassin and vanish is way too valuable to burn JUST for that.
And yes you macro cold blood and kingsbane. Its also safe to add your badge trinket and thistle tea to that macro (just make sure you also have Tea on its own bind)
Gratz bro
Do you think with midnight we will see a change in terms of racials / races or will NE still the way to go? I would really like that we choose a race for style and not for its racial š
thanks zicore, i thought we also get double jeopardy from our Fatebound tree for 2x coin toss?
Ye, you can use a vanish for your burst as well
Itās just not a strict line up thing, if you needed to use it elsewhere etc
Ty can I macro shiv and thistle tea together?
Kingsbane + on use trinket macro.
Shiv + thistle tea macro
Does this make sense?
thats fine
Our main burst is from kingsbane this season right?
I'm loving the hero talent passive that doesn't allow us to be slowed below 70%. Helps so much Vs mages and dks
@spring bough nd @gleaming sentinel representing Outlaw
š„
love to see it
Iām playing assa atm ;<
Outlaw dominates blitz even when itās trash
Need to do kyveza on outlaw then Iāll do grind all over again when they uncap conquest on main
its mostly from coins
kingsbane is just a means to an end to get coins
for the most part
I still havenāt done that. Think it should be easy at 715ilvl? Lol
Idk bro, my brain canāt handle the clones im too dumb and slow. Gonna watch some videos lol
I usually just run in and see what they do š
Die enough and then u eventually avoid that stuff lol
I wanted to get elite in the solo brackets on all 3 this expac. This is my first rogue main expac
:<
damn you picked a good one to main rogue haha
i still have a lot to learn
Time to relearn it with us for midnight lol
guys is around 800-860K dmg good in 2v2 as outlaw? bcs i have literaly best stats and everything but i can't do more dps
hooked on outlaw, cant get rid of me
last round of my first shuffle today a nice 5-1
lined up a vanish adrenaline and GS and smoked it lol
I've been playing thug please with a void Weaver in threes, and that s*** counters ret so hard that we are killing high rated ones in the opener half the time
yea rets not too bad to handle in 3v3s when you have communication it's just broken in shuffle
ret warrior pres is annoying to play against tho
some priests knows to precast mass dispell too
cant wait for them to miss that with no addons
what bout gladiatorlosa2?
does it use combat data? prob? cooked lol
Ye all thatās gonezo
I can't wait for addon removal, it's going to be insane
atleast blizz nameplates will DR track.... right?
i believe in an interview they said they were going to add a DR tracker
i cant tell if he serious or being funny
all the people that rely on addons tho. rating is gonna dip BIG lmaoooooooo
no more omnibar bullshit lol
I love designing the game around people who peak in heroic dungeons.

I feel attacked
what do yall think of my new no weak aura layout
found this cooldown manager addons that lets u edit blizz layout
nahh i was being serious im looking forward to the addon purge
bulky asf
This is so much messier than my weakaura cd tracker and I hate it
im lost without my usual one i gotta customize it more
I am too, just hope blizzard makes the base ui give you the information you need without playing the game for you.
There is nothing skilled about a weak aura blasting your screen seeing āHEALER IS CCād PRESS SANCā
Or the millisecond you Deathmark itās gone
They missed an opportunity to let us spread death mark
Would be broken, but very funny
Sins a bad example though because it didn't really lose a lot compared to most things
are these good pvp talents for outlaw?
would probably replace vial with preemptive maneuver
aight
No panic here
Already deleted all my WAs gladius all that jazz except diminish
And using all this blizz ui crap lol
idk how it will work tbh, we will need to use more the eye now tho
looking for animations
The one addon that needs to stay
Do Not Cast
Thatās gotta stay somehow right? lol
do we have a list of the addons which will survive the xp?
Anything that doesnāt read combat stuff
So maybe BGE list of players will stay but thatās probably it lol
toptarget will stay too tho
yea it's broken as in it does no damage
Do you run to kidney the healer and then shadowstep back to the dps, or do you shdowstep to the healer to kidney them. Feels like kidney does almost nothing because of how much time I waste getting back to the target
if you are forced in that situation it's better to run to healer then shadowstep back, but tbh you're probably better off kidney kill target cheap off target and let your healer/caster partner cc the healer and you can follow up with a gouge off after you've sent your damage
I joined a crate farming group and their spawn timers are all messed up and we lose every zerg
xd
why neverlucky
yea but that's fine because we have cheap shot ofc
meh, it is very big
whats ur dispatch/bte/sinister macro?
Not for long lmfao
any place you can see awc talent setups?
there's a website specifically for that
ooh, which one?
mhm
they should advertise this website more, it's actually pretty clean
yea man, hopefully we will do some damage then haha
its linked in the awc chat like a hundred times per broadcast 
oh, watch on youtube
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and stream description does not have link
that's kinda neat actually
time to ask raid lead for loot prio
that stuff is always nerfed in pvp
check wowhead for pvp modifiers
streamerzone gg is such a cringe team name ngl
Buffs paladin without waiting for 4set
Nerfs outlaw in pvo and refuses to buff it in pve lul
they haven't balanced for ages now
Sinister is the HO ambush/sinister macro. And all of them pretty much just are /startattack and /dismount and thatās it š
can u send the sinister ambush pls
#showtooltip [known: Hidden Opportunity, bonusbar:1] Ambush ; Sinister Strike
/dismount
/targetenemy [noexists][dead]
/cast [known: Hidden Opportunity, bonusbar:1] Ambush ; Sinister Strike
/cast Ghostly Strike
thanks goat
doin some outlaw today?
i been on HO fatebound the last couple days after playing KIR mostly every season lol
HO is just smoother in pvp imo
I hate kir, if that is the meta ill play assa
nahh kir is just a fun spec to play sometimes
Ho seems to be the play
Super charger is good
ye
im the only sob thatt plays KIR lmao
I feel like ho also just doesn't fall appart from cc like kir
You get a small fear and the 10 different dps passives behind kir build fall off
Ceazy
i also played trickster for 99% of season 1 and 2 when no one else was lol
season 1 was so rough with it. season 2 it was great
and now? have played it barely at all lol
time to push some DH in solo and blitz
Sub rogue damage looking sadder than outlaw in awc
sub rouge dmg always looks sad lol
sub just not it against ret
ive ran this coren direbrew crap on over 10 characters today and still no mount lol
ight
4 set for deathstalker is goated
cycling through dsm so much faster feels alot better
kalvish pulling out a dub vs cupid
monday patch notes: shadowdance nerfed by 10%
backstab buffed by 10%
The kul tiras map is my favourite to watch
Nice visuals and cool placed obstacles like walls and collums
when do we get blades edge back

now here is a serious question... why do kul tirans have druids as playable classes? lol. bout to rinse repeat make one to que as tank and farm out Coren Direbrew
I think some drust taught them
There are quests in bfa that talk about druidic culture of the kul tiran. They are more about the gravely side of druidic practices understanding death and life of it all. Pretty fuckin metal.
Akin to their sea priests and shamanism. Similar lore. The more unforgiving aspects of the seas and traveling but having respect for that fury at the same time. Hence why they were present ferrying ships and blessing the waters for the fleets etc.
ooooh so thats why the bear and cat form is all bones lol
Yep. Its the death reflection of the cycle. They tend to gravitate to that side of it all. Very morbid but beautiful and necessary tbh
Kalvish making me wanna load up sub
Somehow my DH got into a 1.5k throw lobby with 2kmmr.
That positioning from Nick just now was honestly insane
That lobby isnt so bad
nah 4-2 it
what lock spec is pumpin in shuff rn
quick 1800 set
bouta walk in there with 4 set 723 pve tier
lolol
No lock spec is doing great but affi is the worst
I think ive seen mostly destroy
Destros*
Demo if you just wanna survive on the climb to 1800
Destro if you think you can carry from a non stop disadvantaged position
Yeah aff has been dumpster tier especially for shuffle
Demo is tanky and their pets can help them thanks to axe toss working when stunned
But Destro can just be like
"Ooops theres all your hp"
Demo is just throw out demons and then tyrant for your gos. Kite and using your stuns to set up and help your team or yourself
Destro is just dotting constantly like aff used to and fishing for your havoc coil go or precog so you can quickly nuke someone.
aint gonna have prcog
no honor for it lol
You can climb on dest without precog its just easier if you have it
If you don't know Demo or Destro tho Demo is safer
Destro is great if you can make it to 2k+
Playing lock in shuffle will def teach you how to play caster under pressure
even over aff rn?
Aff is the worst of the three technically
Aff is straight up arguably the worst dps in the game
It explodes and does not make up for with by having the best of anything. Other dps specs can rot better or burst better. Or both.
how is shadow priest doing
bc im being tunneled
and am doing more damage than the one in the lobby
Paladin press Divine Shield for a Sap
proceeds to immediately die after keyboard turning after 3 globals
when Divine Shield expires
is that 3 rets in one lobby
thats normal
I just run over to the other healer to sap him (twice) and in that 10sec or so, my healer managed to die to the other ret š«¤
Was still better than the lobby with 3 wl, mage and as single melee
Does recraft preserve sockets?
if its from current season it should iirc
then nop
Sigh....
Yo guys i play both sin/sub for pve, what spec would you recommend for fast push to 1.8k for tmog. Also, solo shuffle or teams?
Appreciate any assistance š
Dude
I just realized something
Outlaw doesn't get any benefits from vanish in midnight
Sin shuffle
I'm thinking
Maybe the take em talent is kept on purpose
And we take double vanish
Vanish will be there so we can run and hide when people say mean things
Almost had a 6-0 lobby xD
my 5th round
I popped a 5 buff at start
everyone on enemy team stacked up
and I went HAM
Divine Shield x2 + Ice Block AND Fire Mage Death save gone
within the first 20s of the game
i've been saying this the whole time hahaha
no vanish cdr anymore basically fury warriors now
That's like calling Combat Fury Warrior
Prot rogue :/
Vanish wasn't apart of Restless Blades till BFA
combat didn't revolve around crackshot windows
Still, you said no Vanish cdr = fury warrior
becasue outlaw will be brawler now and not setup
Personally I love Crackshot and donāt like thatās itās getting removed, but thatās a drop in the bucket compared to how much less CC is coming
Basically rogue is always viable right now because of that utility
yes
Remove the utility and weāre fully dependent upon damage tuning
Ye
Itās just such a boring way to steer the game imo
i still think outlaw will be good don't get me wrong
just not as much set up anymore
If things stay the same as alpha rn
I think assa will be the only āalways viableā spec idk
Just because of garrote
yea it all depends on damage numbers really
but if sub is going to 1shot somebody in 2 cheap shots it will be insta nerfed
I think sub sounds horrid with the haste thing
yea im not looking forward to it
Honestly I think its neat Sub's finally gonna use another stat other than mastery
So many modifiers gone so subs baseline will have to be tuned better
Youāre probably going to Dance a lot less so
The execution is just terrible
Probably but I always thought just doing an all in into 1 specific stat is unhealthy game design
I agree but at the same time most pvpers will do it regardless
Ye
They added breakpoints to outlaw and people started stacking haste vers even with builds that the extra haste was practically useless
If they unnerf crit damage with this coming squish
And tune the game properly instead of relying on that crutch
Would do wonders for many specās stat distribution
Because lately even specs that would normally rely heavily on crit interactions have been ignoring the stat
Frost dk, assa, etc
i hope they dont butcher outlaw too hard
Yea I peosnally think itās an assa angle for me next expac
i hate assa
super boring to play
if they make outlaw slow and boring ill just quit
Idk fatebound is pretty exciting
Lots of control and that wombo is fun af
Kidney shiv death mark big boom
Kingsbane*
how so
i like how durable and fast outlaw is in pvp
feels like a tank spec with actual dmg
its also visually really cool, you shoot guns and do unhinged shit
well if rogue is doa in midnight feral is looking pretty tasty
What do you guys plan to play in remix?
I think assa gonna be sick
DH
for the +400% movement speed
Dh bc legion lol
DH because infinite mastery which means infinite movement speed 400% mount speed in dungeons inc
That and outlaw MG gonna be brrrttttttttt
Nah
Nah until we can DW 2Hs
It's def gonna be a crit angle
With rp and bte buff gone
So many other classes have less stuff too
Slow grapple gonna feel terrible ngl
Outlaw unironically the most intact besides havoc
Yeah idk what the point of that one was
Should make it a little faster baseline imo
Leveling all NE and saying goodbye to horde
If you played season 1 df or anything prior it's a lot similar
Rogue got off easy anyways
Frankly I'm just glad to be doing damage anyways
df?
Iāve only played outlaw with crackshot, Iām def looking forward to it
Dragonflight
You probably won't like it then
Tbh
oh nah i only started in tww
If this is all you've known it as, this outlaw might not be your cup of tea
Weāll see
Yeah
Damn new era Inc for you
Yeah lol
what are they doing exactly
Dude I played Druid for almost 20 years and dragon for DF
Basically baseline outlaw rotation but BTE is a stacking dmg buff instead of a static crit buff
Hopefully they drop some interesting PvP talents too
also removing vanish from the rotation
Opp proc is omega buffed
The ones we have now are meh, outside of smoke bomb (the greatest ability in the game)
Yeah but that's not really needed for outlaw rotation
Chroo
There is also crackshot moments
Just not windows
I go outlaw but unsure if worden or what race
I keep telling my friends if they ever wanted to get into PvP, midnight is the time to do it
Did the same but still miss goblin
You may want an hpal
Never thought Iād leave horde
facetanking ret monkeys and forcing them to bubble is a feeling i need in my life
Always been horde
I always hope they nerf racials š¤£
But itās getting old with shit BGs and racials that donāt do anything but bring you mail
join the panda master race
I aināt playing a line backer back orc either
They finally getting a heritage set lol
I hate the models. I love my monk but panda will never be any other class In my eyes lol
HO looks like it could be decent for pvp
Donāt people like the panda rogue animation?
free gouge and muckbang racial
im still mad they nerfed the goomastomp boots
female panda rogue is incredibly bis visually
Unsure if KT or worgen will be the best pick for midnight outlaw

I really would like to go into heal and with midnight the curve to learn it will be better but somehow my brain denies this decision

I think itās sad 2400 on blitz for outlaw is top 20 NA+EU š
Yall gotta play some more outlaw in blitz itās fun
id rather the spec remains unpopular
Iāll be back! Just on my assa arc atm
Havenāt queued law in 4 weeks
Outlaw kinda like survival, the other 2 specs more traditional fantasy and will only be played the most if they are super tuned past the others
im going to level a surv hunter in lemix
I rarely queue that because people are aids
Infinite mastery healing and damage lol
Wanted to lvl blood DK but Im uncertain because I will delete him right after remix because I don't keep chars that I don't play š¤£
A ret hating on ret I love it
Itās fun sometimes, when FW monk is good I have the most fun
Always have a disc. Loosing in shuffles? Go play 2s with a dps and have fun then go back lmao
Been learning pres and man itās hectic but when Iām left alone itās gg
I guess healing is simply nothing for me
Tried priest a few times but it's really annoying with all the cc/burst
U cannot rely on others in solo shuffle and that's why I prefer rogue. I can cc and take care / control
I will go into midnight with 2-3x rogues I guess š¤£
Bro if I couldnāt 6x cheap shot in one stealth window in solo shuffle right now I wouldnāt win a single game
havent qued law since August first week

yeap. not sure how rogue is gonna control fights anymore
Iām hoping my mmr has jumped since week 2 lol
šÆ still waiting for balance tuning 
Even if
They will only tune priest
Ret and mm will be untouched
Dev is hard stuck low mmr
idk seems to be a really bad problem with healers in shuffle atm
Void disc ruined this season
If I hear another healer bitching about DPS Iām gonna start flipping out on them
Like heal the god damn game and stop this DPS bullshit. Thinking they fistweavers or something
We deserve it, bunch of entitled fools
void disc is easy to kill tbf
but when they're on your team they don't press dispel ever]
only void blast
Yeah but they do it all when they are off ur team
yea lol
Iāve actually gotten more into rogue because of how broken ret is ngl
Broken aināt fun
I like playing the worst spec in PvP and beating the best specs
I like my skill or lack thereof shit talking for me
Tbf I also have an easier time fighting ret, after 18 years I know what makes them shit pant
š¤
yea theres something about being the underdog
This season Iāve seen the light, fatebound assa after grinding my face off as outlaw end of last season. Had a nice smooth run to elite
Playing sub in shuffle, how does it compare to pushing as fatebound assas ?
I suck at sub couldnāt tell ya
I'm 1800 as sub and I'm always lowest in DPS. Though I do have a 50% win rate cause people just trinket randomly and explode
sub its just budget assa
u play kinda the same way
rupture ppl and do goes
š what happens if someone messes up the stun DR. Do we still do the go with no stun?
gotta wait unless you know you can kill on a dr stun
Ty for your guide bro, it was helpful for me. I literally got right to 2400 after watching.
sub just gets giga griefed in shuffles, it's a lot easier to play assa
thanks š
Particularly the shuffle part
yea itās not even fun tbh
So many times Iād just half kidney shiv kingsbane and they die itās so fun
- you have to cover your own go's like 90% of the time
Playing rated 3s made me realize playing rogue in shuffle is only for people who hate themselves
And that's me
caught 16 losses or so last 3 gamesplayed 1-5 1-5 2-4 ele rret lock if i remember and last game didnt get healed by hpally once.
i was 1 6-0 or 2 wins from 2.1 lol tanked rating and called it
still positive win rate but going 5-1 most games then hit with those games killed my drive to push 
I hate myself
Get yourself glad, fuck shuffle bro. I found some dev evokers Iām gonna run with in 3s
I'm not good enough yet, but I have people to run thug, dancing, and maybe RMP now
yep i literally played 2 weeks of season on main to get elite and havent logged back in since it's just awful to play rn
Trimaz has a guide? Sign me up! Where can I watch it?
Still better than waiting 30min to lose a lobby becuase someone on your team fucked up drs or didnāt press a cd
Im 1800 aiming for 2100
ya trimaz is the boy
Trimaz you have a guide on rogue?
i did one for assa
yeah i feel that 100!
Now i just make people's lives miserable in wpvp duro/goldshire until that drive comes back
On YouTube?
Iāve been in your crate groups ā¤ļø
yep
Oh I found it tyvm trimaz ā¤ļøā¤ļø
Damn bro why the shots I feel hurt š
last few runs had some great timers
Questions is. Outlaw rogue or vengeance/havoc DH as the first remix character
I think Iām gonna do healer tbh, just get insta invites everywhere so I can speed run my transmog
Feel like queing tank gonna make the leveling so much faster then can just slam the next
Do we get void elf DH tomorrow or is that not until midnight prepatch
Guess ima do a blood elf since I got a night elf already
True
Is anyone gonna play retail once remix launches?
Feel like Iāll be on remix from now thru the last week in December itās active. That last week with the āunannounced goodiesā one can only hope mage tower drops
Iām gonna be on retail prob
But just for keys n weekly stuff m+ pushing and 1800 sets etc
Only thing Iām finishing is the gladiator set on rogue and the mythic set and thatāll be my day on retail lol
Need 4 pieces for each set and we done for the season
You have 25 wins to go buddy
2 more days lads
Yeah I did two games yesterday and lost both
we got 2 more days
I think Iām packed in
and then Cup 2 Open Bracket
Cool see you on Friday for more games
tomorrow I think we get access to Tourney realms
and its when we have to log onto em
and prep up for Open Bracket
Forgot about tourney lol
Maybe we will surprise people when we double outlaw it out the gates theyāll be so shocked they freeze up
Double Outlaw + Assa
GIGA burst
Imagine we get 5 buff on opener
Just sheer shred damage
you know what's criminal?
These Vitamin D3 + K2 gummies taste so good
But I cant eat more than 2 because warning label
Otherwise I'd be snackin' on em
Just buy some regular gummy bears lmao
Lol
I've been scrolling the shopping page in Google
looking for some good gummies to buy
I'd see some good lookin' gummies
Haribo gummy bears all you need to know
Nah the wild berry ones š„
Nah Nintendo has a patent on that GG to summoning pets for battles š
There's a few flavors im looking at thou
Red/White/Black Currants, Blueberries, Juniper Berries, or maybe Crowberries
Lookin' at gummies while waiting for afternoon to come before queuing back into PvP is a vibe lol
Yāall see the f tier vs cats and dog game?
Damn disc did more damage then a sub rogue lol
yea it's criminal but destro void goes together so well
But it's not all about dmg
if you interupt priest you die from lock if you interupt lock priest can free heals
I know know Iām just saying that dude lived for a while and I think people arenāt realizing the brain power that shit took
Getting run down by a ww and war and still doing burst windows? Thatās crazy good
Thatās crazy I didnāt think about that
Iām assuming the Europe games will have an outlaw been wanting to see that again
Haribo has a Halloween sour set of gummies that are goated
They aren't sugar coated
Thing about Haribo, is that their gummies are tough
Red band is better š
They just right š¤·āāļø
Could smash a whole bag of those ez
how many you chew at a time?
2 or 4 lmao
Oh
Gotta chew one on each side lmao
Bro looks like a chipmunk when he eats gummyās lol
XD
We did not need to know that
At least youāre not that guy that just gums his food and swallows it no chewing and acts like itās healthier
I can hear the breathing and sweat still
Skin like a stale glazed donut and breath like the last 15% of a can of WD40
gums his food?
He takes one bite, chokes it down whole, and goes for another but he like folds his lips in so his teeth donāt touch it
Oh
I saw it once when doomscrolling and instantly hit ānever recommend againā
You talking about the British dude with the teeth
I think so I trauma blocked it
British dude with the teeth could be any of em though
Lookup Beavo but the originals before veneers
Itās gotta be Beavo bro lol
āDINNAHā
Seeing more and more ST sin rogue in alt lobbies
What they just dot target and try to envenom spam em to death?
Fuckin beavo
Is there a way to force a blitz match to not count? Because I straight up just had a match be a win, give no CR and not even appear in my weekly games played
Should I start streaming my blitz games for the fuck of it lol
I was 7 out of 8 before, and am still 7 out of 8. It looks like the match just flat out didn't get recorded.
Really? Maybe log out and back in
did somebody leave the blitz game?
It fully completed. The ret on my team did claim we were getting DDOsd though. But I didn't notice anything
don't believe anything a ret main says
Ret was def the one DDOSing
How useful is panda rogue in PvP with their extra stun? š¤
I imagine not that useful or we would see it more
Quaking palm is an incapacitation (sap , gouge dr)
Not useless, you could use it as an interrupt or when you are disarmed
Iād be putting the meanest sounding ticket in
Ohhh okay yeah I see. That makes sense
Could use it to incap a demon who is about to axe toss you and then whoop on someone or use it for cross CC while conserving energy.
I don't know they seem to be not performing very well..
some good pressure in CD, but doesn't seem anything off cd
god cheap shot with 12second cd is real?
they really want to put all classes to be same
Bout to go Tauren so I have an aoe stun
Tbh Tauren stun might be OP now?
Wild weāve come to a point where the biggest character is the best race for rogue š
i don't know, if kidney stays 30s, and cheap goes 12s, i might drop the game again like cata/panda
when they made every class the same
Like blizz would do anything lmao
If they address the micro cc of other classes it might not be TERRIBLE
Finally some nerfs have rolled in
And fenryr nerf
I have a bottle on champagne from 1986 that I've been saving for the night of my oldest daughter's wedding but I think this may be a more worthy occasion to pop it open
best racial in game
@grok is this real
your pfp and bio tells me you might have a bias here.. but i am not too sure....
Is this real or AI
It's real
How does frost get nerfed but not in PvP
And outlaw really didn't get a buff
link or fake
Cool rogues got a useless buff
I'm on mobile too.lazy
Fuck blizzard
understandable
panda gouge works like blind, it cleans dots, so u can full cc
Bunch of fucking momos working at blizz
We got an 8% bug fix on a 10% damage buff lmaoing my life
might have to try panda..
Itās real
30% ravenous leap nerf on BM gonna hurt pack leader lol
Yup
Cupid nerf but mm ret still be good
Bc mm does insane dmg lmao and so does surv
Devs at blizz man I just wanna scream in their faces itās that too crazy
its ret utility that makes them so good, but dmg nerfs are ncie i guess lol
disc priest attonment healing buffed lmfao
Isnāt that the shit that heals from void disc doing dmg
How the fuck does that catch a buff
So void disc gonna be doing same damage and healing more. GG shuffle is cooked for the rest of this season
Itās not
It got buffed for raids, and a compensatory nerf for dungeons and pvp
Imagine if enhance didnāt have the 45% doesnāt apply to windstrike š
Iād be rerolling rn and one shotting everyone lol
enhance gonna be a problem
can I just check, pvp ilvl with conq is 723, so if you have 6/6 mythic raid gear it's just as good?
correct
even the pvp gear is mostly replaced with hc gear?
honor that is
but worse stats
likely
Celebrating the ret nerfs
hahaha
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-pvp-changes-in-midnight/2175957
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-rogues/2175619
look at this
Earlier we shared our philosophy around some of the changes we are making in Midnight to better target Combat for Everyone. We would like PvP to be more welcoming to new and returning players while retaining its current skill expression. Tackling this is a challenge we donāt take lightly because to learn PvP it requires learning how all the c...
This thread is dedicated to leaving feedback on Rogues in Midnight. Look in this thread and in the Midnight Alpha Development Notes for adjustments and bugfixes made throughout the testing period. Please note that off-topic or inappropriate posts will be strictly removed. Apex Talents Many Apex Talents are available for playtesting and may be ...
express yourselves guys
I donāt have utters, sadly
that forum is about to be just
mass
"12 second cheap shot????? blizzard what the fuck you communist assholes"
nice, to make em know
i regret having EU so dead in feedback
only US are the ones being attended here, so GL
bout to get myself banned on the forums
I really hate that being 9w out of 11 games and being 400 CR below my MMR = 29 CR gains per win
F
Also im dissapointed they didn't increase outlaw damage at all
i havnt played either of those classes this season
I'm quite surprised outlaw didn't get an aura buff tbh
Iām like 20 minutes into a solo+blitz Queā¦. Do I even wait it out at this point lol
man i wish pallies had a discord. i could be a fly on the wall
they do
is Sanctum of Light
oh it's up`?
was bolas
fkn whiny crybaby
just because he felt ret was underpowered enough
dooming all other rets
lol
haha yeah
I get the fact that if a class only has 1 dps spec it should be good but ret is disgusting
it's not even the damage
utility
Yup
the damage i can live with, but the fact that they have a button for everything is so annoying
nah fuck them hoes
All the rets are gonna Q tonight lol
hope they wake up tommorow and find out their kids have cancer
and make a wish is closed down
i wouldn't go that far xD
Thatās a very strange thing to say
Maybe touch grass
potential ban in the server

They do. I posted in it. Theyāre coping hard. Saying it means nothing going back to Templar
you need jesus

i am god
3 seasons of temple in blitz
And people still donāt pick orbs or kill enemy orbs
Itās like objective games do not compute with some people
how tf
do i get
that shit ass fucking hpal
and next fucking match
he is in it
again
The game said thatās it for u tonight
gonna killmyself
6-0
priest was dog shit
but
i threw every game i had with that hpal
3
games in a row
im in a lobby with this fuck
Paladin
Retribution
Dawnlight damage decreased by 15% in PvP combat.
Sunās Avatar damage decreased by 15% in PvP combat.
Healing Hands now reduces the cooldown of Lay on Hands by a maximum of 30% (was 60%).
Fixed an issue that caused the 11.2 Herald of the Sun 2-piece set bonus to not be properly reduced by 33% in PvP combat.
how do i do this one round and lose the rest lmao. why does no1 ever interrupt the shaman casting stun... if some1 did would have won one more round
So minor fatebound buff?
so
isn't templar better than herald due to some scaling nonsense?
like won't rets still be a huge problem? lol
Rets still have insane utility so the good rets will still be good
No or else theyād be playing it.
Now it may be
yeah ret will still be good but damage nerfs are good
Those are actually pretty substantial nerfs. I expected a good bit less
dropping to A tier now?
āNerfed paladin and fatebound by 33%, cry about itā
dont rub it in smh
still S tier but S- Tier now
they were S+ tier
Nah they went from SS to S+
Yea itās their utility thatās crazy but whatever Iāll take it
I'm just wondering if everyone is going destro now
They're alrdy pretty crazy and didn't get touched at all
So much of their dam is just instants too
They are way better in a coordinated environment like AWC than they are in solo games.
Especially with hunter and melee everywhere in solo games
lock in solo q is tough
I will also always say like
Solo and even in arena
Lock is cock and ball torture
If theres too many melee in meta
Which - There are a LOT of Ret
The season I got Elite on my lock fealt so miserable to play cause it was DFS1 that I just have no urge to push above that ever again.
inspired me to q my demo rn
just ordered a stat bloodstone
its was over for them
KEK
i just had this troll ass paladin on coren direbrew taunt it and then run away and try and pull it all the way thru the dungeon
And appearently people were building to specifically counter Feral with the highmountain tauren
why cant i get a single coren direbrew mount... i made 10 characters yesterday to farm this and not a single one and none today either LOL
actually fuck it, gonna try some aff out idk why
Affi is one of my favorite casters lul
rest in piss
i can't wait for healers to instantly explode dispelling 5 uas again
It really is
if people don't peel for you it's actual misery
I think the most funiest thing about outlaw is this
So I make it a point that warlocks on my team get peels and we usually win lol
after 1800 games played No mirror matches 
lemix hype
Focused on dots and UA
Mage discord enjoyer ?
It's highest % to drop on your first time for the day
Account wide
brother it can still drop after i been trying so much lol
ive ran direbrew so much i cant even que for it anymore
Who's this man of culture?
R1 btw
Resh
R1 mage complaining about mage? lol
Cock and balls bby
im guessing he wont be playing mage
nothing new
Mage has never fealt as miserable as 2 melee vs lock to me personally
Because the point of lock is to just turret
Ye and Mage can do the whole
Oop over here
Nope back of there
Oh nope over here now
Nawww
(Shimmer, Displacement, Alter Time...)
pvp qs will probably die so gotta get your qs in till then
Thats what im doing cause I know im levelin a warr and a new rogue alt lmao
ā¦what?
Its literally tww classes
yes
I kinda expect them to give up on the timegating once enough people complain
It came out first tier of legion though
last week in december they have ?? mystery week
mage tower INC
It was impossible first week unless you were a mythic raider and it had a currency
What
yeah if you had valeeras
challenge was non existent
havoc tower took me like 20 tries?
in heroic gear
Yea not every challenge was based on getting lucky on which leggo dropped
Aff was also free
If you had the slow leggo
Im just saying valeera negated the whole challenge but it was still doable without
Bear with luffa
bout to have valeera all of midnight
I wish there was a way to report people that left a match
Idk i just remember coming back from classes
Just had a hunter volunteer for sitting a flag and then leave mid match
Was it though ?
nighthold
I remember when I quit it had the ? Symbol
On the artifact thingy you used to display
emerald nightmare
trial of valor mini raid
Cant wait to see a million terrible xavius shoulder transmogs
aaaaa
Literally wrong
Broken shore came out but tomb wasnt open
it says 7.2 (added)
how is that literally wrong
that's literally correct
tomb itself came out in the .5 patch
Yeah magetower came out 7.2
as did the broken shore zone
but the raid wasnt open for another 3 months
you said during tomb
I mean sure 
I still beat it in the end for what it's worth in DF but I'm just sad I couldn't get it when it was current
Is there any way to win if your team keeps tunnel visioning blacksmith?
Yea
Keep flaming them till you get silenced
Tried and true method ask @spring bough
Gonna hit them with "Your parents would be dissapointed in your performance."
Yeah donāt be like me Iām on my 3rd acct
Crazy lol
How
Don't you usually get chat restricted a bunch first
He did the tried and true
Honestly mad lad idk how
I got silenced once and now I'm fearing for my account lol
Same I donāt say shit anymore
Yeah like 3-4 times then like 1,2.,3 week suspension then itās ban
But when u a repeat offender u only get one chat restriction for a week before a suspension
TBF it was during the retpocalypse should be given a free pass to call every ret a brain-dead monkey
I wonāt deny I earned my chat ban, I crashed out like a baby in blitz
Still got high warlord, clearly it works

Iāve crashed out too many times
If yall see me crashing out in solo or blitz on alts I donāt mean it š
I was Qing my main and lost all my 2 seasons worth of mmr and I literally had no control over it
Early season Qs are dangerous
But they can also be great
2 games in a row our healer didnāt even zone in
I hit like 2360 week 1 and then after the hotfix idek
2 wsg in a row we face dragon monk healer with hpal Rsham
Then finally our ret loses Dr insta to a rogue and I lost it lol
I straight up havent ever been actioned
Tho the worst ive said is "You threw that shit in the trashcan."
I avoid cussing people out lmao
At least over games
yea i'm just joking
If I said that that would be the most mild thing Iāve ever said
I've only had a few baby rages but during the .07 Ret patch I was legit malding every round every lobby
Went from 2380 to 2000 in one session

Oh I wanna rage about how dumb people are in blitz but I keep it to "Stop throwing and get off BS" as much as I can so I don't get hit.
Good to read this. I thought my blitz is just a nightmare but you all have the same problem ā¤ļø
I have a horrible habit with crashing out on dps LOSāing me when i play healer
I literally could care less about 99% of the shit in this game but that one always irritates me š¤£
hi
Wait, enh shaman getting buffed in pvp?
You can't heal stupidity.

Will be interesting when they slow down the game with their changes to healing. Worgen druid could be stand out like in the old days
Got to 2400-2450 MMR in 2s on feral. First time playing it in a while
Whichever one of you guys being afk and not accepting the last 3 solo q pops im onto you
I really feel like
Deathstalker is so much better in real 3s
Been playing it today at 2650 3s and it's been doing so much better than Fatebound
First time playing in like 3 weeks because I was on vacation in Japan and legit every time I switch to fatebound we lose just because not enough pressure
FB is more st, ds for AOE. But I would still go with FB for solo because most times someone just dies with 2-3sec
Anything you like better compared to sin?

