pvp

[gleaming sentinel]

echoing reprimand hype

[quaint cedar]

I can't believe after all this pruning, tea still exists

[spring bough]

We are probably gonna need it

Might be more energy starved from what I saw on alpha last night lmao

[quaint cedar]

Might, yeah. They nerfed energy bad. Again.

[gleaming sentinel]

id wait to see max level

[quaint cedar]

I really hate that they keep going in the energy starved direction

[gleaming sentinel]

before dooming, and look at what kinda feedback to give. they said its a true alpha, lots fo changes to be made

[spring bough]

No dooming just what I saw last night. It’ll def get changed before live. I’m kinda excited for all the bullets and such they added

Crank out a 20 stack BTE crit on someone get a nice burst gonna be fun

Also gonna need to time blinds on healers when they aren’t around other enemies so it only hits them

[gleaming sentinel]

im looking forward to a little different playstye, always ncie to shake things up

[spring bough]

Back to no stealth for combat may be a really nice change

[molten hedge]

I like the assa changes it looks funner

[quaint cedar]

Yeah I'm not dooming necessarily either. I think there's a lot of good changes.
I'm happy to see perma AR go. I never liked the idea of AR being treated like a maintenance buff.
Also as much as I love the feel of crackshot, it's beyond frustrating in pvp because it's so easy to stop unless you cross cc the entire team, which isn't always possible in shuffle because of DRs messed up by teammates or people breaking CC.

[tight hill]

i kinda like that assa has 2 play styles currently, looks like in midnight you're forced to spec for envenom so kinda sad we're gonna lose the current DS playstyle

[quaint cedar]

I like vanish being utility again but dislike no CDR for it. I'm tired of using stealth for damage. But I do want stealth to matter for utility and CC and with cheap being nerfed, doesn't feel like we'll be using stealth much at all and that kinda sucks. I want to still feel like I have the rogue kit.

[spring bough]

The amount of cheap shots we get off is going to go down tenfold

I am gonna pretend like we don’t even have it and save it for emergency oh shit I need a CC

Same with vanish

[acoustic junco]

you only have 2 cheapshots

[spring bough]

Yeah every 2 minutes now with no CDR lol

[quaint cedar]

Yeah. Part of that is good because we're absolutely neutered on damage rn because of cheap

But I think this is too much

[spring bough]

Saying like now in one round of shuffle at the end I could have 12 cheaps casted. Midnight one round it’s gonna be like 4 max lol

[acoustic junco]

night elf becomes even more mandatory

[spring bough]

Nah not playing night elf just for cheap shots

Going back to kul tiran

[quaint cedar]

Don't remind me lol

[spring bough]

If I don’t need meld for offense I’m not using it for defense only lol

[quaint cedar]

I refuse to play nelf. Sticking with my kul tiran

[spring bough]

I gotta level a new kul tiran rogue on Tuesday with remix and get it ready for midnight

[quaint cedar]

Think of the possibilities! You can haymaker the healer away from their teammates so you don't fuck yourself with aoe blind on everyone

[dark kernel]

And do I level a third rogue..

Hmm

I played three's last night and holy crap man

[quaint cedar]

lol I also have 2 KT rogues. I made the second one to push easier in shuffle. Makes me feel less frustrated if I go on a losing streak if I have another around the same rating that I dropped from

[dark kernel]

Games right out the door just no joke

[spring bough]

I stopped playing the one because it’s on my 2nd account that’s one more strike away from being banned lol

Onto my new act now so I gotta build the characters back up. Not paying transfer $25 at all lol

[quaint cedar]

Oh that sucks lol

[sharp sierra]

Just do remix

They’re adding a option to transfer it right out of max level so you don’t even have to wait till event is over anymore

[spring bough]

I’m doing two rogues. One is going straight to retail and conquest capped from crate farming so I can finish the mog for the gladiator white set

[sharp sierra]

lol imma use it so I can finally have NE

[fathom crag]

what u think ab that

[spring bough]

@fathom crag I was probably gonna work around w something like this. Drop the flurry talents for the apex ones. And idk how to take speed/stam or grapple

Feel like outlaw is shifting away from the stealth dps windows and idk how HO works into that

That -5 seconds on BTE could be huge too

[fathom crag]

thank god man hated that stealth window gameplay

[spring bough]

For class tree thinking of no supercharger and going tea/cold blood/ deeper Strat

Cause supercharger on adrenaline in a minute probably get 2 charged points versus now with bones probably get 10 charged points or more in a minute. DPS from that gonna drop off a cliff

[fathom crag]

did this

[spring bough]

Have to spend 3 points earlier in the tree pretty sure. Idt wowhead is updated for that

[fathom crag]

but i might remove subeterfuge/vanish

for lethality

[spring bough]

Was also not gonna do subterfuge/vanish

Yeah but you’ll need to take 3 more points out of the bottom talents and they will be utility ones higher up

[fathom crag]

smth like that

[fathom crag]

why

[spring bough]

This but the 3 supercharger talents into thistle, lethality and CB

[spring bough]

Apparently they changed it from now it’s 20 points before lower talents and midnight it’ll be 23 points before lower talents. But seems the wowhead calculator doesn’t account for that yet

[spring bough]

Are u on alpha now? Can u try talenting this for the class tree

[fathom crag]

its off atm

[long shore]

how are rogues this season?

just came back for pvp

[spring bough]

Sins pretty damn good still. Sub is good. Outlaw is ehhh

[novel karma]

One buff away from being in a good spot

[dark kernel]

I have question: for crate farming I need an addon/wa right and then group in lfg?

[spring bough]

Most people already have it. Dont pay someone gold to get into a group. Most don’t ask for gold

I think GCT in curse does it but you have to be in the zones for it to start tracking then you’ll have all the data for when the next one is coming

But you don’t necessarily need the addon to crate farm

[gusty hedge]

hated crate tracker, can be found on CF no wa needed

[dark kernel]

Okay I've never done it at all

Yeah that's fine I just want to do it on an alt is all

[hidden moth]

Tbh

I cba to crate farm

Shits so fucking boring

[dark kernel]

Yeah but I've fallen real far behind on my alt so its a alot faster than playing

I got to play wow 2 hours last night and that's the longest single session in 6 months

I managed to play 14 3s matches

[vocal surge]

I feel like I'm having withdrawal symptoms xD

Like that feeling when you watched the TV for too long and days feel elongated

[hidden moth]

Fair

Depends on alt goals

Most my pvp alts are

1800 for set

But even in greens they end up in 2100 mmr 😭😭😭

[gleaming sentinel]

1 win to go boys

[jolly sierra]

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BRjCwjnFC/

mop classic pvp but applies

[long shore]

glad to hear that my friend said rogues are in a bad spot or average

so rogues actually pretty good i guess?

[gleaming sentinel]

rogues are good, just ret and hunter op which kinda soft counter rogue at times

ret prob a hard counter

[jolly sierra]

ret is 100% a hard counter

[spring bough]

Decent just gotta play around the crazy classes like ret and BM

[long shore]

fck BM is still good?!

every season man

can they nerf this 3 button class for once

[rose thorn]

Ass looks good ngl

after I calmed down from the cc changes

[jolly sierra]

ye my ass looks good af

[rose thorn]

Oh.

I don’t believe u

[jolly sierra]

pandaren have the best assets ingame

no need to prove

KEK

[spring bough]

Wait till u get the new one piece tmog

All of itll be hanging out

[long shore]

cheapshot getting a 12s CD

in midnight right?

[dark kernel]

I've had them. Fun times.

[spring bough]

2 charges 12sec cd

[fathom crag]

alpha is back

@spring bough

what u wanted me to try?

[long shore]

oh ok that seems fair enough

kidney still 30s?

did they make feral maim 30s too?

[spring bough]

Try talenting this on the bottom. I don’t think u can

[long shore]

it was 20s last season i swear

[fathom crag]

this is too cool man

[long shore]

so unfair how feral has a shorter CD kidney than rogues

[jolly sierra]

i wanna a remodel

[spring bough]

Don’t know. But kidney is like 35s cd

[jolly sierra]

a near 15 years old model is way too much

[long shore]

kidney is 35s in midnight?

[spring bough]

The bottom of the class tree u linked earlier. Idt u can take all those nodes

[hollow carbon]

What?! Havent seen that..

[fathom crag]

this is at lvl 80

we get more talents points at 90

[spring bough]

For apex and hero tho right

I didn’t think we got more for class/spec

[fathom crag]

then idk

[spring bough]

I’d probably put those 2 supercharger into tea/cold blood

Prob what ima play depending on how many charged points we get

[iron viper]

You get 3 class 3 hero and 4 spec points

[outer sky]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/no-weakauras-addon-for-midnight-378740

Well shit

Idk if I can play without weakauras

[harsh kiln]

awc on boyss

and girls

and in between

[gleaming pawn]

The number of people reacting to CDs being pressed is going to go way down. Skill expression is back on the menu

[hazy monolith]

yeah I have some concerns, too

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/accessibility-without-weakauras-gladiatorlossa-plater-etc/590762 wrote a quick thread

[fathom crag]

this looks balanced

outlaw looks promising

its just unplayable with 200 ms

[gleaming pawn]

This is on the road to no addons PvP has been asking for, for years. A return to old school TBC and Wrath days. Newer players upset they won’t have a bot telling them to CC or use a defensive is amusing

[harsh kiln]

this is what we have with fatebound grapple atm though

[fathom crag]

yea but new dh spec is caster

and we have a 3sec window

to do it

[harsh kiln]

fair.. theres lots of that in the game atm asell, shimmer, evokers

etc

[spring bough]

No more “OH SHIT HE PRESSED KS ADDON STUN HIM” now they gotta know what it looks like and shit like that. PvP skill gonna drop LMAO

[gleaming pawn]

Yep there’s about to be a lot of bads pissed off that they are hard stuck 1200 again

[spring bough]

Can’t wait

Ima finally get that glad mount

[outer sky]

Guys I agree with getting rid of the handholding add-ons but my entire fucking UI is weakauras I cant even clear old raids without em lol

[spring bough]

DW. Blizzz putting boss timelines in for shit to avoid or do

[gilded gulch]

i got my first 2100 not tracking stun dr

[gleaming pawn]

That’s why the classes are being simplified. You won’t need WA to track stuff more than the in game nameplates and cooldown manager will provide

[dark kernel]

well I found out I suck dog shit at Sin too

you think Double MAge ret would be a decent lobby

[gleaming pawn]

Sin just takes a special kind of self loathing to be good at it

[dark kernel]

its literally ret pal tier

i should uninstall

[gleaming pawn]

I can’t waif for DM energy regeneration to get fucked too when half the races/specs in the game have a way to remove DM in midnight

[fathom crag]

actually dont care about drs as assa

challenge impossible as outlaw tho

[gilded gulch]

yeah i got it running at healers

with mfd and toxic blade

[fathom crag]

toxic blade.. good times

[harsh kiln]

just count to 25, while you count to 10 and having a 30 second timer in your head at the same time

[hollow carbon]

I still use a macro just for having toxic blade image for shiv 😅

[fathom crag]

bring back the god damn vendetta

tired of that piss death mark

[harsh kiln]

i do the same but with deathmark, i use the vendetta icon :<

[languid ravine]

"Dont worry, Blizz will.."
Shit Now I am worried

[hidden moth]

Is aff assa still crankin rn @outer sky

@jaunty osprey

[spring bough]

Atleast blizz plates will track DR atleast they gave us something from their UI

[jolly sierra]

toxic blade fuck

[jolly sierra]

same, i got too used to that icon

[outer sky]

Ivan will say yes because he conflates "viable" with "good". The comp is viable but its not very good, you'll have to consistently play a lot better than most teams you face in order to win but it CAN work. But theres very few comps so bad theyre totally non-viable

Our best comp is probably assa/boomie.

Which is like B tier

But if ret gets nerfed we'll probably move up in the meta

Rogues, WWs, and warriors are all being artificially kept down by a ret dominant meta

Speaking of which, shouldn't we expect tuning notes tonight?

Since AWC ends this weekend

[gleaming sentinel]

Assa aff just beat Ret BM lol

[outer sky]

Yeah im watching

Their priest is playing voidweaver

[gleaming sentinel]

Wouldn’t you just run the priest down if vw as ret BM

[outer sky]

You would think so

The only risk is the lock and rogue peeling and the lock free casting

But the cupid team weren't on mains

And the ret trolled

[gleaming sentinel]

Jungle now

[outer sky]

Theyre swapping to mains

Yeah

[gleaming sentinel]

Ye

[outer sky]

Lets see how this goes

[gleaming sentinel]

Deathstalker with kignsbane interesting

And tricks too what a chad

[outer sky]

I play tricks with assa affi when I dont need disarm

The assa rogue was exploiting the pets from the hunter and the close range of the dragon for spread pressure

[long shore]

Hi all, is there anyway I can find a sub rogue PvP guide for the rotation ?

[spring bough]

AWC starts next week?

[gleaming sentinel]

Kanketo is insane

[gleaming pawn]

Nah first day of broadcast is today

I’d love to see viewer metrics for this season, can’t imagine this not being their worst viewed season to date

[gleaming sentinel]

My guess on tuning is they will wait for first mdi too

To tune for turbo boost to get everyone to come back or stay

[spring bough]

Why does it start when most people are working 🤦‍♂️

Should be 6pm est

[gleaming sentinel]

6pm est for eu players lol

[spring bough]

I guess it’s half eu and na isn’t it

[dark kernel]

How are you guys currently playing against destro

You cannot kick fear because then you instantly get bolted

If you kick bolt you get feared then bolts after

What am I missing.

[lime oar]

Hello brothers, sorry if we discussed this already but what’s the consensus on the blue post about simplifying the combat and addons etc etc.

[dark kernel]

Really nobody knows other than it seems like they're trying to make rotation and min maxing easier

[lime oar]

Yeah.

I think it will be a good thing but we’ll see

[gleaming sentinel]

We’re all addicts anyway so we all playing regardless

[dark kernel]

Whats witht his? I had a single target in the game and cast Shiv once, why does it have 3 hits?

[fathom crag]

what spec do you play

[dark kernel]

idk

[gleaming sentinel]

freedom

[potent pivot]

Apparently it’s not 2 charges btw

[spring bough]

grats

[spring bough]

sick so just sub

outlaw gets fked love it

outlaw never gonna cheap again in solo LMAO

[potent pivot]

That was a mistake posted by skillcapped or w/e

Sub can just reset the CD once with dance or something

[spring bough]

yeah ima never cheap again lol

thats 1 cheap every 2 min why even bother wasting the global

[potent pivot]

You won’t really be playing around stealth uptime anymore anyway

Yeah

[spring bough]

yup so ima forget it exists like i did with gouge

kidney and aoe blind carry me away

[languid ravine]

I think its boosting friday all my games have been utter shit

[dark moon]

@spring bough what do you use to record shuffle games?

or whatever you're recording in wow

[spring bough]

idk i press alt f9 and my comp auto records i think its NVIDIA software that does it

yeah Nvidia app

[fathom crag]

yea 1 charge only

[fathom crag]

get warcaft recorder

p clean

[molten hedge]

Since when? It’s been 30

[spring bough]

so i leave work early to play some games

me and this pally crushed this mage and he quit

[outer sky]

They dont. Maim was also nerfed to a 30 second CD back in June

[dark moon]

will try it out, thanks

[hidden moth]

Gotcha @outer sky

So p much just

[spring bough]

this is why people hate mages and locks in solo..... that amount of CC they did to my team is unreal. they tripled what my team did to them

[hidden moth]

Wait for tuning to figure out spec I run to glad

[molten hedge]

Me and my friend almost beat Val and palu on assa destro ln🤣 I hope they don’t play that in awc

[outer sky]

Bro my friend and I DID beat Kalvish, Dazed, and Kubzy when they were playing outlaw/destro

[outer sky]

We SHOULD get tuning notes tonight

[hidden moth]

Isn’t aww still going

[spring bough]

ima hold my breath bro

[molten hedge]

Insaneeee. My friend was on ele. If he was on boomie, I think we beat them bc I was on sub and I’m horrible at it

[hidden moth]

We singed up for the 2nd or 3rd one

Me and @vocal surge

[molten hedge]

Did u see the zozo shit on kalvs stream ln lol

[spring bough]

9/10 we dontt get it and we are waiting until midnight

[hidden moth]

Also I get what u mean by viable but you gotta play better

[outer sky]

Until Sunday. Tuning wouldn't actually hit until Tuesday when its over though

[hidden moth]

Basically meaning, you gotta be 2600 skill to play in 2400 lobby’s with that spec

[outer sky]

So im expecting the notes tn

[outer sky]

Pretty much

[molten hedge]

Them notes gonna be just like them WAs. Gone without a trace

[spring bough]

this

[molten hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-3584473422170938815

[spring bough]

bro im sorry to say u gonna be waiting until the sun comes up

[hidden moth]

Vs playing meta specs let you play at 2400 where your skill is that of 2200

[outer sky]

Idk maybe. I mean remember this is gonna be a long season and we're not even 2 months into it. They gotta do something

[hidden moth]

Yeah I forgot we in this bitch till Feb

[outer sky]

At least

Probably late feb

[hidden moth]

Might actually have time to get glad 13x 1800 legend, cutting edge and m+ title

[spring bough]

they are doing something

its called Remix lol

[hidden moth]

Ikr

[spring bough]

they hoping that keeps us busy thru december atleast

[woven gale]

Is anyone finding Soloshuffle only increases your MMR verry slowly?

[hidden moth]

Ain’t it gonna be make toon do daily’s log out

[hidden moth]

Depends

[woven gale]

My Aug is non stop 4wins or 5 win lobbies and its getting like 20 mmr a win

[spring bough]

my MMR has been around my CR the last 2 days

[woven gale]

Last like 5 matches have been like that and its still 1800-1900 bracket

[outer sky]

20 for 4 wins is about right

[spring bough]

game i just got out of was 2139 mmr and im 2139 CR

[woven gale]

But when you keep consistently doing it? And started at 1800 in placements and stomped people constantly?

[hidden moth]

ESP considering 3 wins give 0 mmr gain or loss usually

[spring bough]

there isnt even an avg que wait time for blitz rn... lol

[woven gale]

My first like 5 lobbies of Aug was straight up oneshotting people

[spring bough]

ima be sitting in this blitz que till midnight tonight

[hidden moth]

Nah bc 1 800-2k is when u gotta actually get wins to go up

[woven gale]

Whats your blitz mmr

[hidden moth]

4-2 just means you were slightly better than the lobby

Gotta 6-0

[spring bough]

over 2800 as of last night and im only 2059 rating lol

[woven gale]

Its shuffle. That doesn't mean that at all imo

Too many people even at 2.1k and up die in the first go from not pressing a button

[hidden moth]

Your opinion isn’t how the rating system works

[woven gale]

When I tried grinding it on my lock back during Ret meta people were still failing to press defensives on the go

[molten hedge]

5% final verdict buff just bc u said that 🤡

[hidden moth]

Ye

[spring bough]

pls god no

pally gonna get buffs somehow and its not gonna have hte "this doesntt affect pvp"

[hidden moth]

But you gotta be able to carry the clowns

[woven gale]

I mean I don't think Blitz or Shuffles system is good atm. It feels very weird and not remotely good. Like its a weird fusion of League and dota MMR and doesn't remotely account for the weirdness of WoW or its players

[hidden moth]

When you can’t hard carry the shitters but still go positive is when the game is like okay he is nearing his ceiling and y get less cr and mmr

[woven gale]

Win streaks should matter more than how hard you stomped if it was a good system

imo

[hidden moth]

But

What win streak

4-2 is a 4 win streak

Since it’s round based

A game of shuffle is basically looked at as 6

[woven gale]

I am saying if you constantly win at 4-2 it should count as a win streak

[woven gale]

It shouldn't be

[hidden moth]

It should

[woven gale]

I have never seen

A single other game

With MMR like this

[hidden moth]

Imagine ur mmr matches cr and bc u 4-2 twice u go up 100 mmr just to 0-6

[woven gale]

It feels awful and doesn't make sense

This isn't 6 unique matches

Its 6 rounds of one match

Your not getting new players

[hidden moth]

What g make makes you do comp matches with the enemy team and yours swapping around

[woven gale]

If you get a bad lobby for your class you can go 0-6 and theres nothing you can do about it

[hidden moth]

You are

[woven gale]

No its the same people in the same lobby

[hidden moth]

New on the team

[woven gale]

You know what I mean

[hidden moth]

Sure but

[woven gale]

Its a single match

[hidden moth]

That’s not how it works

[woven gale]

You can not argue they are unique when its the same lobby and same players

[hidden moth]

Comps play diff

[woven gale]

A game should base MMR off of consistentcy

Not peaks and lows

[hidden moth]

Are you good enough to win with every comp avail in the lobby

[woven gale]

Peaks and lows especially with how people explode is exactly why you get Rets that don't know their own class getting stuck where they shouldn't be

[hidden moth]

Then you go up in mmr till you can’t win with every comp

[hidden moth]

1900’s

Tbh you don’t get good players till 2400 +

[woven gale]

Any time rets op I always see in 1900-2100+ rets never using half their powers.

[hidden moth]

Yeah but 1900 is shitter lobbies

My pve gear dh is in 2100 lobbies it has pvp trinkets and jewelry the rest is vdh stated and enchanted pve gear

[woven gale]

And a lot of FOTM peps shouldn't be there imo. Don't kick, don't know their own kit, don't use most of their powers.

It always feels completely random to me whether a player even knows their own kit or not

[hidden moth]

What I think is happening is your are deflecting from “I can’t climb bc skill issue” to “it has to be the way the rank system works the game is the issue not me!” Meanwhile others are able to climb cr with ease

[hidden moth]

Sure

But

[woven gale]

Like straight up when playing my MM I saw 2 lobbies back to back

[hidden moth]

Gotta be better than the forehead monkas hold W apes

[woven gale]

1 ret hard carried his rounds with his utility, making his team unkillable and able to kite for days

The other ret couldn't even bubble themselves for half the match

[hidden moth]

And I’m sure the good ret won most of his rounds

[woven gale]

Yeah he should be climbing. The other one shouldn't. Problem is because the MMR system currently rewards spikes over consistency that paladin is where they shouldn't be.

[hidden moth]

Also wasn’t trying to be mean more so trying to shift perspective

Good players are good bc they themselves think they are dog shit and look to improve themselves vs blame outside factors outside of their control

[woven gale]

I mean theres nothing really to shift. I don't think a MMR system based around spikes is good. How someone plays consistently matters more.

Especially in a game like this where a lobby can become a quick 6-0 or 0-6 by pure luck

[hidden moth]

Consistently goin 4-2 gives u mmr and cr gains though

[woven gale]

Very tiny gains. What im saying is if you are consistently going 4-2 it should amp up if your on a streak of 4-2s

[hidden moth]

Maybe but also depends on lobby mmr

[woven gale]

Because if you keep getting 4-2s constantly you obviously are not where you belong.

[hidden moth]

If you have higher mmr than lobby game expects you to 4-2 at that point

Bc “his mmr is higher than the rest”
“Ohhh he lost a round to the lowest mmr in lobby”
Even if it’s just a 50 mmr gap

[woven gale]

Which is kinda dumb how agressive it is. Even a 100mmr difference is nothing.

For SS and Blitz anyway

[hidden moth]

so uhh

i cant selectg which wow ac c ount to launch, and its saying i dont have a sub and am on a started edition account...

checked my info says i got 2 accounts with active time and are still there

wtaf is happening rn

[woven gale]

Restart Bnet and then change game version a few times till you can get the option to select your account

[hidden moth]

shows the accounts for classic and mop

not live

[fathom crag]

i found the fix

go to ur wow retail folder and log manually

with ur email adress, password & code

all my wows gone haha

[spring bough]

log in and out of the launcher?

[hidden moth]

woudl force closing launcher and it logging me back into it not be the same thing

[spring bough]

like in the launcher sign out of ur account and sign back in

[hidden moth]

wont let me

keeps asking for authenticator and when i inputit it says fuck off d/c

[hidden moth]

no fix

[spring bough]

bliiz GM musta deleted it on u

are we gonna lose battle ground enemies addon? sounds like a combat addon lol

[hidden moth]

idfk

nvm

got it to work by manual

on the 5th try

ffs

single dollar company

[hidden moth]

some of it is

bc it shows enemy cds

which tbh

bge is the only reason blitz is playable

idk if pvp is going to be drastically easier next season or wayyyy harder lolol

[spring bough]

i just need it so i can click on enemys idc if it shows the trinkets or buffs anymore

[spring bough]

@potent pivot what are ur thoughts on skillcapped... mostly gonna stay together?

[potent pivot]

Wdym

[spring bough]

most of the addon will stay intact cause its just visual right? but itll lose some profiles like diminish, gladius

[polar crypt]

soon arenas without gladius and WAs lmao

[potent pivot]

I think most of it will just be gone?

[spring bough]

already doing that rn to get used to it lol

[spring bough]

was hoping theyd still do it for the layout and some of the safeque stuff it does

[potent pivot]

But they’re adding a lot of the features to base UI

[spring bough]

betterblizzframes/platees might stay maybe? maybe?

[potent pivot]

I don’t think so no

[gleaming pawn]

What is skillcapped possibly going to use to scam people now. “Elite player profiles” for WA and Omni was their main draw these days

[spring bough]

i just used it to auto setup my layout mostly tbh lol

and a couple of profiles

[molten hedge]

They make it easy to pick up a new class and learn about it. Some stuff is outdated, but there’s a lot of good info on SkillCapped. I’ve gotten a couple vods and they are pretty trash/not in depth. But for the price, idt it’s a scam. I like the guy that narrates the videos personally

It’s good for new players

[languid ravine]

can somehow explain how I am getting triple stuns aoe bleeds and huge uptime but end up doing only 800k dps

[hidden moth]

dog shit addon, dog shit guides, dog shit players, dog shit scumbags behind pay walls for info that takes 2 google searches

[molten hedge]

Maybe you’re wasting too much energy putting up unnecessary bleeds (sanguin blades)

[spring bough]

idk i just use the free addon lol

[hidden moth]

be hard pressed to find anything skill capped related that doesnt have some jank ass troll info

[hidden moth]

never used the addon but

i just hate skill capped

[molten hedge]

This dude talking mad shit and doesn’t even have it smh

No offense but that’s troll asf

[hidden moth]

always some incorrect bs in their vids that throw off the new players then they ask for money to tell u even more dog shit advice

modern day snake oil salesmen

[molten hedge]

You can ask for free in the disc

They don’t charge u extra wdym

[hidden moth]

why do i want their addon when they cant even get other info correct?

[molten hedge]

I agree with that

[hidden moth]

paid version of addon and paid guides

[molten hedge]

They don’t update stuff enough

[spring bough]

schtabby feelin some type of way today

[molten hedge]

If ur gonna sell a service, u need to update it every time stuff changes

I do concur

[hidden moth]

why pay for skill capped when i can just have @potent pivot tell me that my iq is that of a trisomy 21 bastard child and i should do "xyz" instead to win games

[molten hedge]

Bc there’s more classes than rog and there’s not a NoTrickz in every disc. He’s the shit.

[hidden moth]

isnt selling addons "not allowed" by blizz anyways

[molten hedge]

Most streamers and R1s don’t know how to articulate themselves well

[hidden moth]

oh ik im just

making a joke/meme

[molten hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/donut-glaze-satisfying-gif-13180530

[hidden moth]

point being therew is other people who are better to get info from

why have a narattor who never played rogue in his life tell u how to play it when u can just watch pika whazz etc and ask questions on stream

[molten hedge]

Nahj, aiden, and a few more are their rog guys

[gleaming pawn]

You can get everything in a skillcapped guide by going to murloc.io and being able to navigate a webpage, and then hitting a target dummy

[hidden moth]

THIS

[molten hedge]

I can tell none of you have the paid version tbh

[hidden moth]

why do i need to pay for an addon to be good at a game?

i just

[molten hedge]

You don’t

[hidden moth]

am good

[molten hedge]

It’s capitalism. Just don’t buy it

They’ve helped a lot of dogshit players

[hidden moth]

ye but again selling addons for wow is against tos and a legal offense no?

since u are infringing on their product or sum shit

[molten hedge]

They just sell a collection of addons it’s not theirs. I’m sure everything they do is above board

[languid ravine]

did mmr inflation hit hard already? these 2400 games are lowtrash every time

[molten hedge]

Idk the loophole

[hidden moth]

sure but why get 3rd party info than asking them urself

[languid ravine]

feels so bad this season unplayable

[molten hedge]

Some of my friends are farming legend wins suddenly. I think MMR went up

[languid ravine]

like half the guys are bots

especially all the discweavers

[hidden moth]

ye my pve gear tank dh shouldnt be 2100+ mmr rn lmfao

[molten hedge]

Idk. I used skilllcapped and got 2400 my second season playing wow ever. In retail. So it’s not snake oil idt

I studied streamers and YouTube vids myself as well

[woven gale]

For some reason suddenly my matches at 1900-2k mmr on Aug have people just doing the same sustained damage as an aug getting spam kicked and then try and blame the Aug for the L when they are getting trained for a like 5 minute round.

[woven gale]

I always assumed you would get the same info of Skillcapped from just watching high rated players

[molten hedge]

They have more videos than you think in their catalog

[woven gale]

And checking out stats from the various websites

[molten hedge]

You will not find that on YouTube

I promise

Especially not cataloged in one place

[woven gale]

Reminds me of those companies that did the same for league

[hidden moth]

p sure skill capped has a league sectgion

lmfao

[woven gale]

But it always fealt like with league just watching the best junglers and their guides was the best

[molten hedge]

They do valorant, league and wow yea

[woven gale]

Personally though I rarely ever feel like pushing 2k. Let alone 4k.

Theres just no rewards for it that I care about

I got the tabard for DF S1 and was like

"Meh"

[molten hedge]

I only play wow. I’m not a gamer. So that shows u it’s worth the money or was for me getting 2400 in 2 seasons. I checkpvp everyone in shuffle and 3s and most of yall took like 10 seasons to get elite when there was negative buttons

Back in classic

[woven gale]

Classic PVP is just chaos and a few super op classes

Also I don't have stats on it but I suspect a LOT of PVPers just stop at 1800 outside of BGs

[wintry dew]

1800/1950 yes

2 big rewards

[woven gale]

Whats 1950 again?

[wintry dew]

illusion

used to be 2100

[woven gale]

I kinda wish they made a second PVP recolor

Just set it at 2k or 2.2

(Or make it so 2.2k can let you grab an old set for your class)

[hidden moth]

1.1 mil damage in 1 second from 2x execute

tf

11 mil*

[woven gale]

Warr Ex or something else?

[hidden moth]

war

like

wtaf is

war damage rn

ight whats counter to hunters in shuffle this season

tired of being kited to oblivion and cc'd with healers who dont dispell

[woven gale]

Ret

[vocal surge]

2ne cup

[woven gale]

Or I should say

A ret that doesn't just eat 2 10mil aimed shots

[hidden moth]

fair

also why tf is conq gain so abysmal rn

[woven gale]

I would also say

[hidden moth]

72 rounds of shuff and only half way to cap

[woven gale]

If its BGs I don't really have a problem with Hunters as a Rogue

I usually dot them up and disarm their aimed shots

[hidden moth]

bgs are memes

bgb is a meme

shuffle and 3v3 are the only pvp brackets worth a damn

even then shuffle is a meme

[woven gale]

Meh, I find BGs a much more fun pvp experience

I prefer objective based PVP

Was why I liked HOTS

[hidden moth]

nah bc u lose ur match bc hunter cant spin a flag

[woven gale]

Allows for legit macro play, tho wow isn't the greatest at allowing macro outside of rogue

[hidden moth]

tf is hots

heros of the storm?

[woven gale]

https://tenor.com/view/azmodunk-heroes-of-the-storm-gif-8439883

https://tenor.com/view/abathur-hots-heroes-of-the-storm-slap-gif-15784875

[hidden moth]

wasnt that just another dota/ league cash grab knock off

[woven gale]

Was Blizzard MOBA using their own characters and focused around objectives

[hidden moth]

never heard of anyone playing it

aside from old heads

[jolly sierra]

i played it to get a fiery cat mount

[woven gale]

A bunch played it for a while but they tried to force a pro scene and suffered whiplash

Blizz jumped between

[jolly sierra]

was an awful xp

[woven gale]

"Casual MOBA" and "Competitive MOBA" non stop

Once the forced tourny scene got killed it died down a lot

[hidden moth]

is 4 set in shuff rn even "noticible" damage increase

[woven gale]

For rogue?

[hidden moth]

assa

[woven gale]

It felt like it help but I didn't notice it significantly

[gleaming sentinel]

2.3 lob. Assa arms vs feral ret. I triple sap the priest when warrior fights pal, then blind then garrote. Ret died and insta leaves

[hidden moth]

just seems to make u rotate to darkest night sooner

[woven gale]

Augment atm is the only one to me that feels night and day difference without 4piece

I don't even think aug has pvp nerfs in their tier cause my Squadrons been recking people lmao

[hidden moth]

damn just looking at sera mate for 2400+ dps

300+ hunter
300+ ret
then it almost cuts in half for the 3rd class being lock at only 170

havok 2nd lowest amount of players on it at 2400+ is this bc havok bad or just lower amount of people who play it @potent pivot

[spring bough]

when does conquest uncap. on tuesday?

[hybrid palm]

New airborne irritant going to be worth over gouge ?

[spring bough]

CD looks like its like 16 seconds with airborne

[hybrid palm]

Crazy right

[spring bough]

was 16 or 18 cant remember from what was posted earlier

and DRs timer is what 16

lines up perfect

[hybrid palm]

Ya

[spring bough]

prob gonna use it tbh

[hybrid palm]

Who needs cheap shot

[spring bough]

aoes already so why not

[hybrid palm]

Just blind

[spring bough]

and i dont have bleeds as outlaw so if someone on my team does SORRY LMAO

blinding away all that rot lmaoooooooooo

[hybrid palm]

Haste should reduce cd, send them on dr blind

[woven gale]

I just had to /y and ping a Warlock to get a Warrior to stop hitting the DH and go for the warlock lmao. It took him a minute to realize he was goind no damage and go lock.

Still won it cause aug burst op

Also Aug has such low pop numbers that I am now Rank 60 kek

Appearently if you want Astral legend on Aug you only need 2400. Of which theres only 5 of 2400 and above

[hidden moth]

oop

[jolly sierra]

OOF

what bout that last one

lol

[woven gale]

I don't even get people yelling Reported. I just get people trying to tell me how to play my class while unintentionally revealing they don't know what they are talking about lmao

[hidden moth]

yeah

i said it to him in the whole spongebob random letter caps meme thing bc i think its dumb as well

[woven gale]

I will say, I straight up have not had people try to tell me aug. They just yell like "Kite harder" Or "Do more damage" Before getting one shot the next round.

[hidden moth]

dude was yelling at me over 1 lost round bc of a ice wall that i couldnt get around made me los and i died (hunter ran up the mound thing and jumped i was slowed and rooted by mage)

[woven gale]

I think most forgot wtf Aug does lmao

[hidden moth]

i realized after i reported him but uhh

[woven gale]

IMO Ice wall is a big skill check. If people don't hit it its ggs.

[hidden moth]

the screen shots hideen message he called me some slurs lolol

[spring bough]

See u on vacation

[woven gale]

I think slurs are the quickest way to get actioned with blizz

[hidden moth]

cant do enough burst dps to kill it solo as assa

[hidden moth]

on ja

tbh me saying he was a failed abortion is less toxic than calling someone slurs

imo

[woven gale]

A mage tried to use it when I was grinding aug (Just finished. Literally started like last night and got it to 1800 already lmao). I just moved my healer over the wall and watched their brain malfunction kek. Mage instantly choked that round.

[hidden moth]

hell i didnt even say he was a failed one, i said his mom thought about it

[spring bough]

I had some dude in blitz call me some “inappropriate message” names followed with “I’m getting u suspended” and then mid match I got booted cause he mass reported my name.. Vancleef and I had to change name mid rated game

[woven gale]

God I love Rescue on Evoker

[hidden moth]

rip

[woven gale]

"My Warrior is LOSing the healer and about to die? No he isn't."

[hidden moth]

tbh i had more fun on dh in shuff

[spring bough]

Then suspended for chat the next day. It was great

[woven gale]

Have you seen the new DH spec?

I am gonna play the shit out of it, its straight up giving me old Demo vibes

Cast at range

Cast on the move

Demo form for amped ranged damage

[hidden moth]

ye im keeping track of it

vdh is my main

so the changes to it are nice but

aweful

like spirit bomb being a cd nice, soul cleave uncapped nice, fiery brand being a self buff nice, losing the hunt... collective anguish... and fel dev putting us in meta...

[woven gale]

I main Lock but have Druid/Rogue/DK as my main alts so seeing something that feels like old lock gives me joy.

[hidden moth]

frailty only being 1 debuff and no longer stacks...

[stoic spruce]

And I'm ToSing the game chat

[hidden moth]

no parry increase on sigil of flame... but other stuff is nice meta giving more of a dps increase and other stuff

[woven gale]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-doggo-smiling-cute-pet-gif-17869715

This was my reaction to seeing DH got KJC

Killjaiden's Cunning my beloved

[hidden moth]

just upset with some pathing nodes like why tf is sigil of spite in the far left of the tree lol

[hidden moth]

fuck is that

oh isnt that

hover before hover existed for locks

[woven gale]

Warlock for a while had a talent that let them permenantly cast Shadowbolt or Incinerate on the move.

Its in MoP classic tho idk if its the prepatched nerf version or the OG

[hidden moth]

didnt play classic

[woven gale]

In WoD they nerfed it to being a CD

Same with Sham and the like

Hmmm. Who to hit 1800 next... Got Evoker/Mage/Lock/Rogue/Hunter

Maybe I just go boomkin and be that obnoxious person dotting the entire enemy team and rotting them to death in blitz kek

[hidden moth]

interesting

@outer sky what time do the notes usually drop

[stoic spruce]

There's not really a set time

It just happens on a Friday when they deem fit

[gleaming pawn]

We would have seen them already if they were getting posted today, and changes don’t get posted until after the AWC is over usually

[hidden moth]

ye

he said "awc ends this week" but still cups 2+3

[hushed dawn]

kinda easy ngl

[dark kernel]

Does ambush have a single purpose as fate Assa, just better cp gain?

I feel like it's not energy efficient nor damage efficient for combo points

[gleaming pawn]

You don’t use it outside of your opener/vanish, or when you get a blindside proc if you are spec’d for it

[dark kernel]

Yeah I figured. I don't even like using it in the opener if I'm near 2 Target I'm going to use fan knives anyway

[gleaming pawn]

It can hit harder than Mut, and generate more CP unless Mut crits both hands

[hidden moth]

isnt mut crit x2 = to ambush when talented for ambush

[gleaming pawn]

The ambush damage talent makes it hit a lot harder, Mut is only better in that case when both crit but it’s not reliable so you’d just ambush and play the odds

Without the Ambush class tree talent, it hits slightly harder than Mut

[spring bough]

Still waiting

[stoic spruce]

Me too lol

[spring bough]

We will still be waiting tomorrow

And the next day

And the day after that

[gleaming pawn]

It’s almost 5pm, you have 13min

[spring bough]

U know what would be cool?

If the tuning went live the minute of the blue post

Like how they hotfixed FB dmg the day they posted about it

[hidden moth]

true

just swaps to ret pal for ez 2400

[jolly sierra]

ye

go pal

[outer sky]

I meant that practice is over so they can tune the game without messing anyone up who's competing

Just leave the tournament realms alone

But they may want to see how AWC plays out to make any decisions

[outer sky]

That was a rogue ability. Thats an emergency

[spring bough]

@stoic spruce when do they post….,

[stoic spruce]

Erm

Guess no tuning again lol

[spring bough]

If I stare at it all night it’ll surely update right

[stoic spruce]

A watched pot never boils

[devout meadow]

are pvp boots better than raid ones?

[potent pivot]

Prolly doesn’t matter if they’re max ilvl and okay stats

[woven gale]

Are they nerfing bubble in midnight?

[potent pivot]

They’re nerfing searing glare, blinding light, and repentence in some way

I think glare and blind are going on a choice node

And rep is getting removed?

[woven gale]

I just watched a ret lose a rogue 1v1

Like straight fight

No resets

[sharp sierra]

yeah

i personally think holy should keep it

[vocal surge]

in Midnight or Retail

[woven gale]

Retail

[vocal surge]

[gleaming sentinel]

Alt outlaw 1890->2100, were so back

[jolly sierra]

YESS YESSS

[vocal surge]

1 more warmup game

then we queue solo shuffle

[spring bough]

Where that from

[jolly sierra]

brewfest ram

[molten hedge]

seems mmr has inflated some more

lots of ppl i know went up like 200+ cr today lol

[gleaming sentinel]

My head cannon is that I got better

:<

[vocal surge]

Bruh

People jump out of my smoke bomb

when im using it defensively to protect us from DH's Rain from Above

[jolly sierra]

you know how much time i was looking for that fkn mount?

like 15 years

[woven gale]

I have come to the conclusion

I only like Feral on druid

Which is just budget rogue lmao

Idk boomkin feels weird to me and still fails to give that wow factor. Old Aff did it way better for me.

Feral does give that feel, though it is hard countered atm lmao

[molten hedge]

yea feral feels like shit atm

especially in shuffle

its like assa but with less agency

[vocal surge]

2k ping

[wet crown]

Wild how they take turns on that huh

Always funny to just open on someone and they just rot down helplessly lol

[versed moss]

what rogue subclass is best for pvp at the moment?

[potent pivot]

you can kinda just play w/e you want

[stoic spruce]

Play sub

[gusty hedge]

not a single vanish?

https://tenor.com/view/cap-cap-check-gif-24989004

[midnight grove]

i just murdered a timmy and i feel awful

[stoic spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-spy-vs-spy-black-spy-white-spy-rocket-gif-3004177827882161282

[noble venture]

Cheapshot change is actually a buff

When you think about it

[versed moss]

theyre all pretty equal atm?

[molten hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/you-are-stupid-are-you-stupid-chef-ramsay-gif-7766570

[noble venture]

Someone didn't think about it

[molten hedge]

I assumed you’re trolling lmao

[noble venture]

Overall it's a buff, I've ran the numbers. With the DR change this works in our favor

I ask you to also run the numbers

There is also a hidden statistic

You can find this after you run the numbers

[stoic spruce]

Yeah rmp will be able to get more goes off

Mathmatically speaking

[long shore]

for 2v2 is sub rogue the play?

or do we go like assas for 2s

feels like sub vs fury warrior is a tough match up

[proper heath]

Hey guys hows assa this season?

[spring bough]

Supremacy S tier plus outlaw bout to be back?

[spring bough]

Blind 16 second CD with airborne directly lines up with DR 16 second duration

Gonna be fun actually now that I’ve thought about it

Bout to become a kidney and blind machine on outlaw

[stoic spruce]

Yeah it's comp viability unironically shot up with this change

Like

On the surface it looks awful

But in reality it's really not

[gusty hedge]

still not liking what i see until i can test it, Atm not feeling any of these changes

[spring bough]

I think we will be pleasantly surprised going back to no stealth offensive game play

why is solo shuffle instant que popping rn its saturday AM

wtf

[gusty hedge]

most likely! felt the same way when they added shadowdance to outlaw in df,got used to it got good then they removed haha, now got used to new gameplay tww now everything gone our loss on mobility is gonna hit different( fast grappling hook gone) other talents u choose between mobility or dps

[spring bough]

i just had a ret

first two rounds 0 bubble presses

bro got demolish and now watch him bubble rest of lobby

[gusty hedge]

i felt this,
i was once a ret who died in first 2 rounds but was unable to bubble for some reason hahah rest of rounds i forsure bubbled or pre bubbled

i believe it was the mage or frost dk tho my globals were resetting very slow with no interrupts

[spring bough]

my feral went full DK 3rd round and left ret alone..... my god this game

bout to get bent over

[gusty hedge]

😭

[molten hedge]

Idts bubba. Feel free to share how you have more stuns when u could spam cheaps before LOL

[gusty hedge]

its gonna be hard to 1v3+ now haha with 2 cheap shots, gonna get slammed midnight

double cheap shottin everyone, def gonna miss the control rogue has in fights

[molten hedge]

Yeah it won’t be a buff that’s cope

[proper heath]

Hey guys hows assa this season?

[sonic sparrow]

Hey guys, when you play outlaw whats your dmg? I do max 1m on burst in 2v2 and i can't get higher

Any tips how to get more dmg?

[spring bough]

does anyone use personal resource display with betterblizzplates

cant get it to show up for whatever reason

[long shore]

Guys any suggestions for which PvP spec in 2s ?

[stoic spruce]

I can't wait to be able to play out of adr

That'll be sick

@chrome schooner any opinions on the direction outlaw is headed towards midnight?

I know it's early alpha and things will change but I like what they're going for

[chrome schooner]

I haven't looked at Midnight at all

Might not be playing the game by then so, I'll see then

[stoic spruce]

That's a shame

But it be like that

[pliant lintel]

outlaw on alpha looks pretty good but i guess it really depends on the numbers tbh gameplay looks smooth though and RTB looks a lot easier to manage

also you get 18 sec aoe blind which is giga op

100% will be fixed before it gets released though haha

[stoic spruce]

Yeah for sure

Imma glaze rq tho, shades been my fav for years. Even when he didn't play outlaw.

[long shore]

What are people playing in PvP. Sub / Assas / Outlaw just play anything you want ?

[pliant lintel]

Play whatever you like the most, if you are just picking rogue up I’d suggest starting with Assa

[long shore]

I'm trying to understand how the 4piece interactions with sub

Is there anything we need to be mindful of?

Do we need to track darkness night and all that stuff ?

[pliant lintel]

so the 4 set actually makes sub a lot easier to play because you don't have to apply a rupture in your rotation to line up darkest night and finality

[long shore]

How is this so though?

[pliant lintel]

obviously you still apply rupture during maintenance

[long shore]

Ya I apply rupture outside of Shadowdance for sure

[pliant lintel]

before you had to strike rupture, now you can strike evis and your 2nd evis will have finalty + darkest night

[woven gale]

Yeah the rogue won against the ret without the rogue every needing to wait out bubble or the like. Was first fight and I watched the Ret on off cart just getting destroyed.

[long shore]

I see.

Thanks for that.

how would our ideal Shadowdance rotation look like?

[pliant lintel]

so you strike evis > dance symbols > tech > evis now

or you strike kidney > symbols > tech > evis > evis

all depends really

[long shore]

Ah I see. Usually we want to pop dance + symbols at the same time right ?

[pliant lintel]

well yea because of the damage increase but you can double symbols to line up your marks

just have symbols on a seperate bind

or it can be used to clear marks off a target fast if you want to do a go on off target for instance

[gusty hedge]

sheeesh🔥That rogue did the community a favor

[long shore]

If I'm in combat how do I strike Evis from stealth though?

[pliant lintel]

you have to dance

or vanish

are you talking about opener or 2nd+ go?

[vague summit]

I wonder what the illusion is going to look like

[long shore]

The second go.

How do we go about the second go if we don't have a chance to restealth and strike - evis

[pliant lintel]

well you should have already prepped and darkest & finality before you send your next go but im assuming your target has used an immunity and/or currently has no marks applied in this situation you dance strike symbols cheap tech > evis > re cheap > big evis

[gleaming sentinel]

I really want to play outlaw aff in midnight

[pliant lintel]

if you want to stun first you dance, cheap, evis, 2x symbols, tech, big evis

obviously don't gap your stuns

basically just put symbols on it's own bind and track marks/darkest night & finality and use symbols to line you procs up

[long shore]

Okay thank you very much.

If I X2 symbols how do I build combo points to do Tech?

Since Evis was the last finisher used

[pliant lintel]

you strike after the evis, symbols is off gcd

i like you macro my tricks into symbols

i use dynamic macros addon and the macro i use is

#showtooltip Symbols of death
/cast [@dynamicmacros]
/cast [@dynamicmacros] Tricks of the Trade
/cast Symbols of death

[spring bough]

so i have scrolling combat text disabled in options but it is still showing up..... any1 know if an addon might fk with it?

[pliant lintel]

Erm are you using classic number or something and it’s enabled in there?

[dark moon]

give list of addons

[spring bough]

i got it turned out to be advanced interface options

[woven gale]

So is midnight still gonna be Night Elf and Dark Iron best races in PVP?

[spring bough]

for sin probably. seems like it wont matter much for outlaw now and subs indifferent to it too

[woven gale]

Why are they indifferent to a free chaos bolt dodge?

[spring bough]

im talking purely offense dont really need it for that anymore

im going back to kul tiran for fun lol

[woven gale]

Im debating atm BE or Worgen Rogue alt. Not sure. Both have felt bad racial wise atm.

[hardy bough]

Can you rupture snipe totems?

[vivid dune]

Coming back to rogue for the first time since legion… what spec should I ease into it with? Think ima go BG blitz to start with. Little more casual

[hardy bough]

does it give energy back

[unique garnet]

So whats the real difference between Trickster and Fatebound? ik Fatebound is all about dumping 4-5 combo points for the coin but i don't understand trickster as in how it dffers from trickster in pvp

[gleaming sentinel]

Gnome outlaw might be sick

Root breakin

[pliant lintel]

assassination

[spring bough]

+5 energy too and 1% haste

blitz que.... 1 hour 5 minutes so far

are we going for a record wait for a game today boys

[woven gale]

Oh wait

Shit they are reverting Worgen nerf

Worgen Darflight will stack with Sprint

It stacks with other movement increasing abilities again so thats gonna be nice for BGs

[spring bough]

might need it tbh with retraction speed gone on hook

[woven gale]

Oh thats old appearently

[spring bough]

1 hour 10min in que and got a blitz pop lets goooooooo

[woven gale]

Huh?

[spring bough]

outlaws grapple hook is losing retraction speed so its slower and we probably only taking 1/2 of the 15% movement speed talents so we gonna be slower there too

[woven gale]

Why is Grapple being made slower? That seems like such a weird and bad QOL change

[dark kernel]

ahhh

good.

good.

[spring bough]

cause some blizz dev def lost to an outlaw and was like fk em

[spring bough]

ew both in one???

[dark kernel]

yeah

and I already got the ram

[spring bough]

wow

go buy a lotto ticket

[dark kernel]

i may

my night last night sucked shit

[spring bough]

i have impressed myself in blitz this season yall 1 more game for duelist and im 19-6 a 76% win rate lol

9 straight blitz wins to go somehow and i can get elite lol

[gleaming sentinel]

Dazed out here on awc boys

[unique garnet]

i have pissed off a ret pal

[gleaming sentinel]

ret pal

ofc

[unique garnet]

Outlaw needs a nerf guys, too strong

[jolly sierra]

gratz, welcome to the club and wtf for the kodo

[dark moon]

hahahah imagine crying with a ret pal 😄

outlaw defo needs a nerf, almost does more damage than disc priest

[dark kernel]

did I already miss it 🙁

[spring bough]

outlaw + 2 sin vs sin/sub on EOTS

[unique garnet]

AWC no outlaw

AWC outlaw appears

[gleaming sentinel]

bruh

[spring bough]

how is it i can have 3 enemy, hunter rogue and preso at FR and my team loses DR.....

like im literally keeping 3 people occupied and my team loses 5v7 at DR lol

[unique garnet]

@spring bough you think i'll ever learn outlaw (peak 1913)

[gleaming sentinel]

you gaming bro

[spring bough]

yeah what u mean just keep smashin games ull climb

[unique garnet]

my chart looks like a fuckin seismic graph

I am enjoying it tho, i do need to get 1800 on my druid and warlock but im having too much fun

[gleaming sentinel]

outlaw volatile, im doing pvp grinds on my assa this season lol

[unique garnet]

I just ended up finding UH/Lock and Boomie kinda too simple and got boring

[spring bough]

i went from 2360 something to sub 2000

and back over 2100 to back to 2070

its always ups n downs with outlaw lol

Blitz ques are going good right now yall if any1 needs to que

[gleaming sentinel]

5 rating from 2.4 in shuffle, I think I 3-3 next lob I’m free

[jolly sierra]

blizzard finally granted a wish

an achiv in midnight will allow you to do forest trolls for playable troll skins

[spring bough]

is the AH loading for yall?

mine just stuck on searching even after logging in and out

[dark kernel]

I'm so jealous man. I had to take a long break with how it's been going

Rated 3s goes phenomenal and then shuffle is...

[unique garnet]

Bro can i stop fighting dh pal

[spring bough]

im so fat i just got a penne vodka pizza smothered with riccota for my blitz grind lol

[unique garnet]

Any advise on fighting against dh/pal and uhdk? i seem to always struggle against those classes

i feel like pal has 3 healthbars

[spring bough]

Just slam rets and hope u win

[unique garnet]

[spring bough]

Yeah u gotta live thru the 2 bubbles and the 100% heal

Once u thru that then u have a chance

[unique garnet]

i think im just trying to cc too much and my damage suffers

[spring bough]

Kick them searing glares and just get them hitting those defensives

[jolly sierra]

the name of that fkn pizza is so so cursed in spanish

[spring bough]

I just 5-1’d a ret and MM lobby

the one round the holy yelled at me for evasion early and its like bro its on CDR

back over 2100 baby

[unique garnet]

lets gooooooooooo

im stuck back in 1700 games

[spring bough]

Is it bad lol

just solo'd MM with a healer at LH

capped it in their face

and we 3 cap won the game

wish i recorded it lol

we back to top 30 on eu+na boys. bout to climb

[jolly sierra]

LETSGOOOOO

[spring bough]

that aent saying much lolol lowest of the top 29 is 2102 LMAO

[hybrid palm]

Disc priest out dpsing sub rogue in awc

[jolly sierra]

WHAT

JUST 2102

RLLY

[spring bough]

yeah its crazy lmao

top 50 for solo is 2100 too

lol

back into both thank the lord

[spring bough]

good maybe theyll catch a nerf now

and buff us

[pliant lintel]

haha next joke?

[woven gale]

does anyone know if remix is gonna have pvp?

[jolly sierra]

it wont

[keen canopy]

1000% vers pvp

dh running at a caster at 500% speed

would be cinema

[woven gale]

Damn. Will have to suffer and only M+ it up XD

Still not sure if I should level the rogue or warr alt first for remix

[gleaming sentinel]

I just play alts in PvP, I get too tilted on my main idk why

[pliant lintel]

yea same just log main end of season

[spring bough]

void disc needs to be deleted from the game

[unborn grail]

true

[phone]

and remove internet from solo shuffle players that does 0 kicks

[spring bough]

if i hear another void disc complaing about the teams dps

im gonna flip the fuck out on one

and then the next round he gets zero'd in on and folds and dies

[wide zodiac]

real

[gleaming sentinel]

i jsut run em down bro

[spring bough]

yeah well u got silence on sin

that shit probably debilitates them

[gleaming sentinel]

yea assa just made for shuffle i swear

[spring bough]

yeah solo is unplayable out here

have like 2 good lobbys for every 20 bad

[pliant lintel]

do priest swaps on void

most of them don't know what to do when they can't blast

[spring bough]

1.8mil coin ontop of a 2.5mil BTE this round LMAOOOO

[spring bough]

i have a prot war in my blitz whose 2200 and he is also 6/8 Mythic and 3.6k IO... what a CHAD

[pliant lintel]

commitment to prot

i respect it

[vocal surge]

Any Outlaws appear yet?

[vocal surge]

Essentially Trickster focuses on Finisher and Killing Spree to do bigger hits and has a bigger crit damage mod on generators

[unique garnet]

Huh I thought trickster is more amount waiting for X buff on RTB

[vocal surge]

Fatebound kinda just does that but better because coins flips ontop of tails coins smacking harder and faster than Unseen Blade. They also gen more combo points via Deal Fate and has better mobility and defensives

Trickster used to charge at people via Coup de Grace but sub rogues complained so we lost that

[halcyon timber]

Pvers complained

[unique garnet]

Thank you btw

[hybrid palm]

Ya I sent about 5 tickets for it

Cause casting coup during ansurek blades would teleport you into blades

[vocal surge]

Rip

I didn't have issues with Trickster on Ansurek

As Outlaw

[halcyon timber]

Ability functions with X
Individual uses ability during Y
“Damn ability!”

[devout meadow]

is there any way to lign of sight bm hunter pets?

[spring bough]

sick can i blame u then for them getting rid of my coup charge in pvp LMAO 🙁

[potent pivot]

This guys gotta be rage baiting at this point

[hybrid palm]

nope, that's not on me 😄

[jolly sierra]

nope

unless you vanish

[gleaming sentinel]

Dazed looking sick

[spring bough]

outlaw doing it all winnin games

[hidden moth]

when do conq gain rate increase

happen

[gleaming sentinel]

Idk but when they uncap I will play my main in PvP again

[spring bough]

this boomy just solo'd 3 people on mid

while i stayed stealth and watched

LOL\