pvp

[outer sky]

id much rather make kingsbane crit

it procs the coins too

and it turns kingsbane into a 35% touch of death

if you shiv first

and its not telegraphed at all

like with the way i play it

if I kick a pally

i can just kill him

in the lockout

[potent pivot]

The point is to try and get lucky coin proc

The coin damage is part of it too but

Without inevitable end you’re procing lucky coin less

[outer sky]

thats fine

i'd rather kill someone on the enemy team than proc lucky coin more often

[potent pivot]

Cba

proc'ing this in your burst can be big

without ie you might not even proc it an entire game sometimes

[jaunty mirage]

Had a healer in my lobby absolutely roasting this hunter for dying in the previous round but it was like a 5m envenom with some insane coin proc he just evaporated from like 40% hp

[potent pivot]

yeh

i don't think some people realize how big lucky coin can be

like

+7% agi until you drop combat for 10 seconds is kinda cracked. if you proc it..

[jaunty mirage]

It doesn’t happen a lot, but imo it’s worth it purely for the few times you can just vaporize someone

[potent pivot]

then subsequent procs you get a juicy coin if you already have lucky active

[jaunty mirage]

Especially if it’s a paladin player

[potent pivot]

like i can understand maybe people feel more control over their damage by using CB+KB, but realistically if you play it well ie goes hard

[jaunty mirage]

IE just KIND of makes you feel like one of the big boys

CB+KB def is more reliable on-demand burst but even when the stars align you’re not doing big dawg burst

Playing around IE though you can def get some lucky big dawg burst

[wet crown]

can I just say

I think fatebound is the worst hero tree in the game in terms of just like, the whole idea behind it

[stiff cedar]

you don't like random rng on your random rng?

[wet crown]

deathstalker is like the only rogue hero tree that fits

The other two are just weird, dumb bullshit that doesn't fit at all

[potent pivot]

thematically i agree

[wet crown]

like I said I love what fb burst can do to a dude, but like

[potent pivot]

but at least it feels good to play now compared to before this tier set

[wet crown]

i hate it

yeah, wasn't fb dead like all expansion?

[potent pivot]

not exactly

it was like the slightly worse/much easier to play tree

[wet crown]

I'd like a spec that really leaned into executing wounded targets or whatever.

[potent pivot]

its not that rng now tbh

new tier set gives you a lot of the control that was missing

[stiff cedar]

agreed actually

still a funny concept though

compare it to like

templar

[potent pivot]

before this new tier set it was def rng fiesta

[spring bough]

first blitz of the night and half the enemy team is paladin

[wet crown]

I love it so much, unless fighting a paladin

then Ig i just go fuck myself when they bubble and/or bop it

Sometimes surprise them and sudden kills them before they can though

[grave basin]

so im trying devoker for the first time

and it's like i just enabled hackz

[stoic spruce]

Me when I played WW this season ngl

[spring bough]

my whole team just went LM after i got farm.... and then blamed me for not going GM

love this shit lol

no1 went BS either.... crazy

[grave basin]

is your hacks being perma rooted and zero uptime?

[stoic spruce]

The hack is good cross CCs and good kill pressure

[spring bough]

blitz que avg is 6min right now is this real life

just got a pop and a win... 16-4 on the season lol

[gilded gulch]

I mean have you seen dh

[stoic spruce]

Yes

:(

And ret

:(

[gilded gulch]

theres something comical

about hunting a lock port

and killing him behind pillar

[stoic spruce]

If you're not playing ret or dh you're throwing

Ret moreso

[gilded gulch]

im bout to q ret in all greens using obr

see how long 1800 shuffle takes

[stoic spruce]

Such a good idea tbh

Get it queen 💅 💅 💅

[spring bough]

epic finish... capped at the last second after we got bases... enemy team capped first and i get the last love it

[gilded gulch]

i guess i need to bubble manually

[spring bough]

love beating Dean bro is everywhere on multiple warlocks lol

[stoic spruce]

This is gonna sound weird but I think male belves are more feminine than female belves

Somehow

Idk I can't quite put my finger on it

[gilded gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-elves-gif-5021243051349336030

[stoic spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/elves-chad-dwarf-gif-25266189

[potent pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/tyrande-gif-19216791

[spring bough]

what about void elf

[stoic spruce]

Idk about them. I mean personality wise.

[spring bough]

KS proccing sudden demise is so funny

[wet crown]

Low key tempted to make a marks just for pvp

[fathom crag]

eots needs to go man

[spring bough]

it has its moments lol

[fathom crag]

it’s good if u qing law tho

[spring bough]

couldnt believe how the game ended. i stole FR for like 20 seconds from ret created a gap for us but they ended up capping

we were down 1350 to 1477... we get MT first and then belf even tho enemy ends up with belf slightly after we captuer MT... i went mid for flag and 4 hooked sprinted back to MT and capped as we got it lol

[fathom crag]

hopefully they rework the map

[grave basin]

1 more lobby and it's taking 30mins

[fathom crag]

you playing NA?

[grave basin]

yea

no trimazwolf please

what now trimazmechagnome?

[fathom crag]

the wolf needs rest after joining a shuffle with 2 rets 1 warrior + 1 hpal

[grave basin]

you caused trille to quit feral bro

hes bm now

[fathom crag]

🤣 that shuffle was criminal

[grave basin]

bro i waited 35mins

and the ret DCed first round

HOLY FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

[fathom crag]

classic dbl pala that cant press

[grave basin]

he was offline before gates even opened

[fathom crag]

not sure whats wrong w NA

shuffle qs are so long

[grave basin]

i just wanna get 1800 and move on to the next alt

but tbf dev has been insanely fun

especially these low elo triple melee lobbies

i just run laps around them

[fathom crag]

nah its goblin time

[fathom crag]

ye i guess its dream lobby for u on dev

they need to remove the immun slow man

[grave basin]

revenge for when i was on my WW and couldnt do shit against fmage devoker lobbies

[lone cypress]

i just queued legit 7 arena skirmishes in a row back to back to back to back where I never once got a duo and it was me 1v2

is there some hell setting I need to disable

[jaunty mirage]

Only melee I can think of that could feasibly chase a dev around the map is sv

[grave basin]

I swear every ""modern"" spec feels so good to play

There's no useless buttons

Compare that to shit like feral where you can feel its age

[grave basin]

Dev, Ret, fdk, this patch BM

[wintry dew]

Warrior. The set is too good to pass

[grave basin]

Warrior set looks baller but nothing beats the red dragonflight set

They mixed it up with the raid set and was the only red elite set for that tier

[wintry dew]

S1/2 or 3?

[grave basin]

Can't remember but it was the dragon helm one

[wintry dew]

oh, s2!

[grave basin]

Yea

Best warrior set in a long time

That wasn't just "spikes"

[wintry dew]

true

im just a sucker for anything that resembles somewhat Legion last season for warriors

[pastel burrow]

exceptional taste as per usual

that legion elite set was peak

nothing comes close

[wintry dew]

Now the problem is my skill xD

[pastel burrow]

you've got months to get it, you'll be fine chief 🫡

[compact bloom]

is there a way to see what the stats of pvp gear will get increased to without actually going into a BG?

[wintry dew]

HOKLY

GADSGFDASHSFD

GFDSAHDFSHFDGSHJFSDHSFDGj

WTFFFFFFFFFFF

[sharp sierra]

NICE

[wintry dew]

AAHAHAH_fad

hfdsh

fdsh

fsgdj

gfdkj

fsdghdg

@pastel burrow

@potent pivot

[pastel burrow]

YEAAAAAAAH

ITS THAT EASY BRO

[wintry dew]

i was doing 2-4/3-3 lobbies since i started

(had the mouse on the rated bgs on the screenshot, im still shaking)

[outer sky]

Hit a pvp training dummy. It'll scale you up to your pvp ilvl

[compact bloom]

but nothing before i actually buy it from the vendor? i have a bunch of myth track PvE gear already (with high vers because i play outlaw) but i feel like my HP is low

so i wanna see where i can get stamina gains

[outer sky]

No I dont think so

[compact bloom]

lame

[dark moon]

that's tough. blizz need to step up the penalty for leaving

[grave basin]

Think I'm gonna skip druid and priest 1800 set cause they suck balls

So that leaves me with only pala shaman and warrior left

Oh wait warlock set too hmm

[lone jasper]

Ppl, anyone has problem to play blitz on eu servers? Trying to play from the start of the season 4 times que more than 1.30 hours, no pop ups, am i bugged? :))

[jolly sierra]

what a speedrun wtf

[wintry dew]

Went from 1490(?) to 1850 or something in a 5-1

[potent pivot]

[keen canopy]

wdym the priest set is good

i mean maybe the set isn't great
but the pieces are ffine

[grave basin]

eh, not for me

i think warlock set is wayyy better

[jolly sierra]

oof

gratz

[spring bough]

really can only que at like 12am EST - 3am EST, avg time was 6min last night then.... now its not even worth waiting

[grave basin]

another one

[gleaming sentinel]

your mmr just too high, the blitz gamers all blast their mmr really high get lik 200 cr abov eveeryone and just stop q'ing their mains

[grave basin]

devoker fun af

should have played it sooner

[gleaming sentinel]

[grave basin]

BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[gleaming sentinel]

i'll do legend grind on dev this season i think

[grave basin]

now i gotta crate farm on another toon for 2hours

[spring bough]

my mmr is over 3k now and my CR is only 1989 lol

games broke lol

[gleaming sentinel]

yea, the mmr system is abused and is a joke

[spring bough]

i just want elite on blitz man

i want taht 3x strategist for the xpack

[gleaming sentinel]

all the rank 1 blitz players kinda crack me up, they dont even have to play after the first 3 weeks lol

[spring bough]

im currently 16-4 on blitz lol

[gleaming sentinel]

get a good win streak and never lose cr

[spring bough]

havent even played a lot... last two seasons ive done prob 300 games each one

[gleaming sentinel]

q against your friends at small windows

[spring bough]

you know how im gonna be the que times?

become a void disc priest and just DPS everyone and heal my whole team thru it... just become and absolute menace

[gleaming sentinel]

do it and duo with my rogue

[grave basin]

@gleaming sentinel warlock shaman warrior or pala next

[gleaming sentinel]

im partial to the lock set, they always have a good one

[grave basin]

i feel like enhance looks cool af but at the same time lame af

you basically auto win 2nd ascendance

[gleaming sentinel]

i would mai enhance no joke

but there are just so many key binds

[grave basin]

eh stormbringer is quite alright

[spring bough]

nah then you gotta make one too so we can split LMAO

[woven gale]

What do yall do as Ass if your teamate just constantly is running and not escaping? I feel like my damage tanks hard especially since Ill get CC spammed if I try to keep up

IE Mage/Warr just run and don't damage at all, blowing everything to keep running (And failing to make space)

[gleaming sentinel]

haha, ive considered pres... always liked that spec

[spring bough]

i just wanna be able to DPS and heal off that and not have to click teammates to save them lol

[grave basin]

my binds are so fucked if i play healer

i have to bind party12 and self

[gleaming sentinel]

I was a pres gamer for 1 whole season but dps made me ruin my faith in humanity and i went all in on rogue.

[grave basin]

why didnt you main assa

[gleaming sentinel]

i played feral for years and years

same same but diff

[spring bough]

1 shield takes up my whole health bar this is cool

all i have done in this first time walk is shield people and they good lol

shield + renew GG priest is fun XD

[gleaming sentinel]

although fatebound assa is really fun in blittz, almost strategist done

i feel like i can actually assassinate someone with kingsbane wombo

but chain pulling tanks in m+ makes that spec unplayable for me in pve

[grave basin]

ye

i did an ecodome early in the season with a tank that refused to listen

i kept telling him to let me re and he gave zero fucks

i just logged off after and havent logged back in lol

[gleaming sentinel]

yea its not fun relying on that

at least with outlaw i can vanish whenever

[grave basin]

if im reliant on others to not grief me it's not worth

esp if im 100% pugging

[gleaming sentinel]

hence why healing is fucking brutal rofl

[grave basin]

ok ill do it, ill try enhance

watching whaaz play outlaw just reinforces that ill never touch that spec for shuffle lol

[spring bough]

atonement sounds OP just reading the talent

"spell damage heals all targets affected by atonement for 33% of dmg done" GG

slap a few shields and pew pew pew

[grave basin]

this lobby

is really bad for 1 class here

[dark kernel]

Atonement is OP because disc is like MM where it's OP based on how like one number is and they can't fix it

Atonement either giga heals whole team while the priest does 1M DPS, or it does piss

Right now we are in the former.

[woven gale]

Is there a bug that stops fatebound coins from rolling?

Cause I just checked details from my last BGblitz and fatebound didn't do any damage

[grave basin]

i mean this kinda damage got mw nerfed

i bet disc wont get touched

[spring bough]

this gonna be me and all yall gonna hate to see my voidy disc coming

1 mil dps minimum inc

[grave basin]

warrior was below disc

for most of the rounds

but it was against 2x mage 1x devoker so yea

[spring bough]

did disc 6-0

or nah

[grave basin]

theres two discs

but one was playing big balls spec

other was playing the pussy build

i think kirra went 4 2

[woven gale]

Are fatebound coins entirely reliant on being able to stand ontop of someone and auto them?

Cause I noticed matches where I have to chase people endlessly fatebound does little to no damage despite me getting full bleeds and poisons on people

[spring bough]

just all RNG for how many stacks for how much dmg

[wet crown]

If I ever heal it'll 100% be a priest

[spring bough]

Heal? Nah I’m casting 3 shields on me and my teammates and then I’m DPSing

I’ll let atonement do all the healing

[jolly sierra]

filthy bot

@wintry dew @potent pivot

@tired crypt

[midnight grove]

i assume this is bugged and does not work

still does the 6 sec duration

[gusty hedge]

everyone would use if it was really an hour

[midnight grove]

1h of 15% dmg sounds good to me

slap it on someone and forget about it

[spring bough]

If this worked I’d be abusing it so hard

[gleaming sentinel]

For pointing that out we have decided to nerf restless blades another 20%

[languid ravine]

I remember the day I quit Outlaw forever

was when I died in a 1800 lobby against a BM focusing me and I had 1 second CD on evasion

while there is a mage in my team

[spring bough]

Legion remix heroic world tier sounds fun

Makes everything harder so questing may be a challenge at first lol

[harsh kiln]

at 2220mmr. i wont link the damage meter though

[jaunty mirage]

Where are yall getting these 0 paladin lobbies wtf

[dark kernel]

I have had DIsc priests doing 1M damage and had a few shuffle lobbies that were pretty short where the Disc was actually #1

[jaunty mirage]

Void disc is absolutely pumping rn

[dark kernel]

yeh

its weird weve had 1 tuning pass in 7 weeks

we usua

have 3

[jaunty mirage]

Blizzard just phoning it in atm hahaha

(They’re just like me fr)

[sharp sierra]

To be fair one cc during void is basically gg to all their healing and damage but yeah when it hits and you got no answer it fucking hurts

[jolly sierra]

oh

guys

look

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[spring bough]

wait where tf that drop from????

ima need the english name of that mount to wowhead it lmao

[jolly sierra]

is the new brewfest mount

it only drops in the 1st coren kill from the keg

[spring bough]

bro what do i gotta do lol

is that the LFG thing?

[jolly sierra]

ye

[spring bough]

oh ima do that everyday

on all my alts

any1 know if survival can get this legendary 2h from amirdrasil?

nvm a strength wep RIP

[jolly sierra]

they can xmog

but not get it directly

pick a ret

[waxen meteor]

any tuning for next week?

[spring bough]

lol

i wonder if legion remix will have the alt level up skip whre u dont loot anything and then open ur mail at level 60 for max level

[spring bough]

no mount 🙁

[waxen meteor]

I think it’s higher chance drop rate first kill per day like most festival event

[gleaming sentinel]

I’m convinced they have moved onto midnight.

If anything we might see some tuning after first week of mdi and awc, but doubtful

[jolly sierra]

F

[waxen meteor]

Ok I don’t need to rush to finish Ret this weekend then

[static holly]

Ret is fine. Nerf frost dk

https://tenor.com/view/this-isnt-happening-everyone-look-away-please-nothing-to-see-here-officer-barbrady-south-park-gif-21526904

[spring bough]

@stoic spruce leveling my DK and went frost... first time ive ever felt like frost had more buttons than frost strike and oblit lol

[woven gale]

BGblitz having so many people ignore objectives is starting to drive me crazy aaaa

Also whats with like bear druids being able to outsustain 4 people who are bringing antiheal?

[spring bough]

dungeon finder man.... i solo pull a boss hes at like 10% and they boot me from the group.... this shit gotta stop lol

[stoic spruce]

Yeah it's got depth now which is cool

[spring bough]

getting so many blitz games right now on my DH... feels like a lot of people queing... some fun games

played 3 games in the last 40 minutes or so lol

and que just popped for 4. all in under an hour. this game alive?!? lol

[spring bough]

16 seconds was all it took for this round

[woven gale]

Im getting a lot of games but getting tilted from it being subpar games with skill levels all over the place.

[spring bough]

I’ve had two down to the wire but so far 4-0 on the day lol

[languid ravine]

Would love to play some PvP but I spent the last 4 weeks applying to guilds xd 30 minute queues aint got shit on that

[woven gale]

When you get down to the wire where people are doing actual objectives, that feels great.

Ive just been getting ones where no one spins or rotates at all

[languid ravine]

blitz 2.2 rating, Ret paladin using adaptation trinket losing offcarts, meanwhile our entire zerg dies in 10 seconds

yep we are so back baby

this is the good stuff

[outer sky]

Friend of mines lobby earlier today

[potent pivot]

fucking sad times we're in boys

[outer sky]

Has it ever been this bad?

[gleaming sentinel]

Rofl.

[potent pivot]

yes and no

like things have been far more broken than ret is rn i think

and things have been as heavily played before

but since its mid season and kinda in the slow period

with no tuning in sight

its just progressively feeling worse and worse

[gleaming sentinel]

kinda think part of it is just ret is a popular spec every season anyway

[languid ravine]

I think it hasnt been this bad when Ret was broken in DF season idk which but I think season 1

[woven gale]

Ret in S1 DF was more broken

It had to be nerfed like 4 times back to back

At the start it was one shotting everyone

Arms and Demo were only being played cause they could survive the one shot and fight back.

[outer sky]

I feel like we do this every xpac

They were busted in SL too

They just have too many tools that do too many things

And damage to match

But like

Yall ever notice its always the same classes

That are broken and need to be nerfed

Or stay broken

It's hard to believe its not intentional ngl

[spring bough]

i just want one patch

one patch that rogue is busted and not touched

[outer sky]

Like i cant be the only one who's noticed that

[spring bough]

is that so hard to ask for

[outer sky]

Lol when were busted they do off schedule emergency tuning and hit us hard af

I remember last xpac ele was broken during the off season and they still nerfed it into the ground

There wasnt even rating to be gained and they got gutted

But they just refuse to treat ret that way

They nerf DKs even when nobody is playing them

[languid ravine]

yeah what I meant is representation this bad

anyways done with Rival, 5 lobbies as Ret ezpz

[outer sky]

I got rival day 1 playing ret with only 3 skirms of practice beforehand while in full greens and no tier

Its obscene

That this spec exists

[gleaming sentinel]

not gonna happen

[languid ravine]

the best part about being a Ret is, when people start getting tilted and trolling it actually plays in your favour

[gleaming sentinel]

tww season 1 coutlaw was pretty good

[languid ravine]

I went 5-1 playing mid af

xd

[outer sky]

I mean the thing I noticed about playing ret was

It felt like I always had a button

No matter what happened

I had something to press

[languid ravine]

yes 25sec cd on freedom

kek

[outer sky]

Yeah you just always have something

Like sac

Or sanc

[severe helm]

you can just kill a void disc priest if you target them

oh that was an old convo

but yeah I feel like people forget how shut down disc gets if they are playing void weaver and you target htem

[jaunty mirage]

Launch dks and s9 frost dk

Launch dk stayed like that for an entire season

Probably the wildest thing I’ve ever seen in wow arena

S9 frost dk was sort of like if they just let the original version of divine toll return paladins stay like that for a whole season

They had a spell icy blast or some shit that had a 30 yard range and you could just spam it and it did aoe splash damage

People were in glad range running triple frost dk

Oh and the spell was also a builder lmao

Did absolutely crazy damage and then you just dump runic power with huge obliterates

Blast thing slowed as well so they barely even needed to press chains

[vocal surge]

Making me wanna queue xD

[spring bough]

GL

[sharp sierra]

"Kidney shot now stuns you instead of your target and flips a coin, if heads you die, if tails you do -33% damage. (Coins that land on head do 1000% more damage)"

[severe helm]

it was this bad in DF

when they reworked ret

if anything it was worse

[jaunty mirage]

Worse than s9 frost dks I’d be willing to listen, I think it’d probably close. The thing about s9 frost was that it was legitimately a 3 button spec

[severe helm]

idk when s9 was

[jaunty mirage]

First season of cata

[severe helm]

honestly thats barely the same game as now

that was over a decade ago

[jaunty mirage]

Yeah for sure

[severe helm]

most of the specs were 3 buttons

the game was comically easy back then

people were awful

[gleaming sentinel]

3 button specs still dominant smh my head

[severe helm]

I knew r1 glads who clicked

[jaunty mirage]

I mean people were awful but most specs were not 3 buttons

[gleaming sentinel]

I got gladiator in tbc becuase I had keybinds and a focus macro

[jaunty mirage]

Just in the context of the overall power of every other class in the game, we’ve never really seen anything like launch dks since

The only genuine hero class

[gleaming sentinel]

Idk Aug release was pretty crazy both shuffle and m+

Completely changed the game

[severe helm]

yeah I mean launch dks were a meme

but also balance back then was fucking awful

like really really awful

[jaunty mirage]

I mean launch dks were so wild they removed glad titles from 2v2 hahaha

[severe helm]

the whole game was fucked

[spring bough]

resto druid solo'd by a void disc

god i hate this game

[dark kernel]

2 lobbies today, two 2-4s, 2017 back to 1963

I havent even cracked 2.1K this season, we're already back to feeling just as fucking bad as last season

[hidden moth]

how are rogues looking in the shuffle meta rn @outer sky

[vocal surge]

Hes in the Paladin's Discord PvP channels

[hidden moth]

its that bad huh

we swapin to ret now

[vocal surge]

Ye

[hidden moth]

god damnit

[vocal surge]

I was just as surprised ngl

lol

[hidden moth]

think we getting balance tuning with turbo boost or nah

[vocal surge]

Went into their discord to see how the paladins be reacting

Prob not

with Blizzard's track record atm

[hidden moth]

i justr wanna see alpha for midnight god damn it

[vocal surge]

I wanna ensure Outlaw is proper in Midnight

[hidden moth]

i want to see

[vocal surge]

and not Carpal Tunnel Syndrome

[hidden moth]

vdh and devour dh

curious to see assa rogue though what we thinkin the cap stone gonna be

also more points on rogue class tree would be fat, considering 3 more gives us recup and super charger or leathality with cold blood

[vocal surge]

I think Rogue tree gotta get some changes

before midnight

It's kinda meh

[dark kernel]

I'm just disappointed to be stuck 2k

Haven't played in a few weeks, but the season is shaping up to feel EXACTLY as bad as last season

[jaunty mirage]

IMO assa in a weird spot cause I think if they nerfed ret assa would very quickly rise up on people’s shit list

[hidden moth]

pinteresting

[hidden moth]

thats fair lmfao

ret hard counters assa

i havnt gotten 4 set yet and hit 2k but

still feels

lack luster ngl, gonna try fate bound once i get the conq for 4 set

[vocal surge]

Outlaw is really bad rn

almost straight unplayable

outside of stunbot mode

[hidden moth]

i see 8 toons as outlaw at 2400 though

on sera m8

[jaunty mirage]

The fact that assa can exist in a paladin and hunter meta and not be complete trash means it’s gonna cook people if those get put in check

[hidden moth]

isnt that like 2 less then what last season ended with?

[vocal surge]

We have a sub 48% winrate

in ladder

[hidden moth]

rip

gonna end it

tf is this lobby

[potent pivot]

Rogue is fine tbh

Ret is just strong and an annoying amount of ppl play it

[hidden moth]

true but

counter argument

buff conquest rates bc holy fuck

its taking forever to get 4 set

[potent pivot]

[jaunty mirage]

It really is just a bad combo of ret being busted while hpal is good as well as the pretty unusual occurrence of all 3 hunter specs being very good

Dragon healers are good too

If they tone down some of those specs rogue especially assa will be right up there in the complaint department

[dark moon]

This feels like an understatement. The infestation of rets and hunters is diiiiiiisgggggggusting.

[wet crown]

I'd say it's a worse meta

because it's not just paladins right now

Retpocalypse was bad but you didn't have marksman hitting your healer for 15m while getting your ass beat by the one button warrior.

[unique garnet]

i shouldn't que so late atnight

[severe helm]

instead you had demo

being demo

the most miserable shit on the planet

[outer sky]

It ain't looking good man lol

[outer sky]

Idk about playing 4 set with Fatebound. Because kingsbane is a 1m CD and 4 set shortens it a bit which de-syncs it from badge trinket

[wet crown]

Is fire mage still obliterating people

[outer sky]

Yes but thats manageable

Just treat fire mage like dev evokers tbh

You need to react to their burst but outside of it its not that bad

Also

They get countered so hard by hunters

[wet crown]

They get it back way quicker >.>

True

[harsh kiln]

RoS is the death of firemage

[wet crown]

I was thinking I-might- do hunter next

But I refuse to play bm.

[harsh kiln]

surv eats them up aswell

[outer sky]

RoS is such a counter to fire mage its practically unfair

[wet crown]

Survs the hardest one to deal with if they're good

[harsh kiln]

and along with a ret, they shouldnt win a single game

[outer sky]

Its like mending bandage for assa rogue

[harsh kiln]

the mage that is*

[outer sky]

But every spec has it

[wet crown]

What's more troll is mending for feral

[outer sky]

Is it? I figured it would be worse for assa

Because it leaves us energy starved

Just remove all our bleeds

[harsh kiln]

its probably equally bad tbh

[wet crown]

I guess it depends, assa seems way easier to apply it on vs feral having big cd bleeds

[harsh kiln]

but wth do i know, i'm an outlaw onetrick

[wet crown]

Literally how do you play shuffle as outlaw

What is the kill potential

[outer sky]

Your teammate lol

[harsh kiln]

controll the game and let your teammate solo someone else

yeah taht's it

[wet crown]

Standard rogue stuff outside cds then? >.>

[outer sky]

Basically

[harsh kiln]

yup

be annoying

[outer sky]

Just really try and let your teammate milk their CDs

AIDS the healer as much as possible when theyre about to go off

[wet crown]

I like sin the most for that, because for some reason it's still the only spec with garrote.

[harsh kiln]

and be annoying to their healer during downtime

[wet crown]

Triple garrote on the healer is so funny

Or doing it to a bursting mage

[potent pivot]

don't let @spring bough hear you say that

[outer sky]

If any other spec got garrote, you may as well just delete assa from the game

[wet crown]

I don't agree and think that's silly

Also, deja vu

Sin can keep the mega bleed, having a silence opener again on sub would make things a bit more interesting.

[outer sky]

I think subs rupture ticks harder than assas

[wet crown]

Outside of burst I don't believe so

[outer sky]

Im almost certain it does

[potent pivot]

which spec is bursting

[outer sky]

Blizzard has been trying to buff subs sustained damage and rupture is the only knob they have to turn to do that

[wet crown]

Kekw

[potent pivot]

they both have their rupture do more damage in various ways

[harsh kiln]

it's either that, backstab or autoattacks

[potent pivot]

if you compare raw rupture to raw rupture, yes i'm pretty sure sub's is more damage

[wet crown]

Give sub the ability to damage through immunities.

Not really but it'd be really funny.

[potent pivot]

that actually fits thematically

[wet crown]

Some boosted scrub pops bubble and your sec tech still kills him

[potent pivot]

even if it was like 80% reduced damage it would be sick

[outer sky]

Sometimes thats all you need

[potent pivot]

though to be fair

a lot of sub's damage does hit through various defensives

[wet crown]

Do that priest thing where the first shadows trike from stealth just does absurd absorb dam/goes through immunities

[potent pivot]

since its physical/shadow

[outer sky]

Isnt it just shadowstrike?

[potent pivot]

no

[outer sky]

I know shadowstrike can't be dodged or blocked or whatever

[potent pivot]

all of sub's damage is split phys/shadow basically

[wet crown]

That's stealth abilities in general

Can't dodge or parry

[potent pivot]

ambush/cheap/etc

[wet crown]

Bte when it was a stun also did that

[outer sky]

Nah its not. Its rogue specific stealth abilities. Druid rake stun can be dodged blocked parried, etc

[wet crown]

And it was really funny

That's what I meant, bluh

I oft forget feral exist until I see him cyclone my shadow blades

I love getting sandbagged by druid teammates

[potent pivot]

[outer sky]

Kidney>bomb>clone

Just /afk

[wet crown]

Cyclonic the kill target is just like

Why

It's lIke hunters got smarter and Druids got dumber

[outer sky]

Every druid thinks theyre some kind of 200 IQ strategic genius and theyre trying to make big brained plays with cyclone but most of them actually have the IQ of a baked potato so they just end up throwing the game

[wet crown]

Just do it to the fucking healer my god

Druid on enemy team rake>cycloning my healer off Dr, my feral rake stuns my kidney and clones the kill target at 11% health

We love it

[outer sky]

Ive played a few shuffles as sub where I danced someone down to like 20%, danced again to finish them, and they got cloned

Now im just watching my dance tick down

[wet crown]

If I could friendly fire...

[outer sky]

Ikr

[wet crown]

Hunter pops trueshot

Hits cyclone

Feral dies three seconds later

[outer sky]

And im sure it's happened to you too where sometimes YOU get cloned and you actually just feel safer in the clone

[wet crown]

I've had my ass saved by clone too many times

[outer sky]

Same lol

[wet crown]

Get a feint charge back, cruising

[outer sky]

Like just a few lobbies ago I had a druid clone me when I was almost dead and during the clone my cloak came back off CD. Saved me so hard

[wet crown]

I'm amazed clone doesn't have a cd or some kind of dr nerf still

[outer sky]

They nerfed the duration by 1s thats it

[wet crown]

Whoopie

Used properly it's annoying for the good reasons lmao

Like a poly your teammate can't botch

[outer sky]

Yeah

[potent pivot]

Cloning low can be giga

[outer sky]

Oh I know it CAN be. But more often than not i just get trolled by it because the druids im playing with think theyre better than they are

[potent pivot]

Depends on what answers the enemy team has for the damage

Or if you’ve already spent your stun DRs fully

Then it’d be dumb to keep going

But you can see your team mate casting the clone as well I’d hope right

[outer sky]

Yeah but how am I supposed to know theyre gunna clone the guy a global away from dying

There's 2 other, better choices

[potent pivot]

Just depends on the situation ig

I’m still scarred from the feral mindset s1

Now everyone’s playing ret and I refuse

[untold hare]

Guys on pvp as assa rogue when exactly i use shiv ?

[outer sky]

Are you playing Kingsbane?

[untold hare]

Yes

[outer sky]

So on paper to burst you'd shiv the global before you kingsbane, and when kingsbane has 8 seconds remaining

In practice in pvp that probably won't happen. Just make sure you always shiv before kingsbane and you can use the other shiv any kidney shot go in between

[noble venture]

why he naked

Are there any high CR assa streamers/tubers RN?

In 3v3 or 2v2

[potent pivot]

no one that really only plays assa

whaazz/pikaboo

[noble venture]

i find pikaboo to be quite unwatchable for serious play

maybe whazz will play more assa

last i checked he was playing lots of outlaw

[potent pivot]

[noble venture]

yeah i mean the guy just plays low CR shuffles on alts all the time

it's not very useful

[potent pivot]

https://check-pvp.fr/solo?region=us&realm=all&faction=all&classes=4&specs=259,260,261&sort=rating&order=desc&page=1&minRating=1800&maxRating=4100&bracket=shuffle

[noble venture]

.

I know he's a good player, but he doesn't make content that's useful for me

If you like him that's cool, not throwing shade

[potent pivot]

Not a big difference really

[noble venture]

There is some considerable difference

[potent pivot]

But nah I just haven’t been watching anyone lately, usually he plays a lot of 3s and 2s

[noble venture]

If he is queuing up 3v3 that would be great to watch

If he ever does I'll tune in haha

[potent pivot]

I’d keep an eye out but idk

[noble venture]

Though I don't think he takes pushing so seriously these days

[potent pivot]

He was competing in awc every season for years and years

Only very recently did their team stop competing I think

But like

Usually his entire shtick is viewer 2s and playing 3s

Maybe that’s changed since they stopped competing idk

But trying to find such specific assa content is gonna be pretty much impossible rn

[noble venture]

Most probably

[potent pivot]

Rogue content is pretty dead in general unforch

[gleaming sentinel]

Canaryclaw has a few YouTube videos in shuffle

[noble venture]

That guy lowkey sucks

Sorry

hahaha

No offense

Maybe that was too far lol

[gleaming sentinel]

I mean he’s playing at 2400 but 🤷‍♂️

[noble venture]

yeah but in shuffle right

[gleaming sentinel]

Yea

Too bad Kalvish doesn’t use a mic and camera, he could blow up right now

[potent pivot]

He kinda has already really

He gets good numbers for a wow pvper

Obv whaazz/pika are a bit different

But they’ve kinda built up over the past decade

[gleaming sentinel]

Awc lost 2 pretty iconic teams, wonder how it does this season

[spring bough]

Time to make a team

[dark kernel]

Yeah I can't wait for a bunch of rogues to make teams and share last place

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-hysterically-gif-15491304

I finally got some more game time in. And I don't know if it's just me, but somehow Outlaw feels even worse than last season

We're once again bottom on damage in longer games, and sometimes even below disc priest

I guess so is sub and Assa so you know..

[glass hazel]

hopefully they will rework rogue in midnight

[gleaming sentinel]

Me and my buddies are gonna do it for the toy (and get slaughtered)

[spring bough]

Me and @vocal surge will see u there

[gleaming sentinel]

One of my 3 is a literal classic Andy so be gentle

[untold remnant]

Do the conquest boxes release on Turbo Boost too?

[dark kernel]

Probably

Boxes are usually week 10-13 blizz really hasn't been consistent too often

I think tomorrow is start of week 8?

[untold remnant]

Maybe when the Bullions come out then

[spring bough]

Crate farming still ez pz

Can be fully capped out and geared in probably 2 hours or less

[waxen meteor]

capped for coquest? or blood coin

[spring bough]

Both

[waxen meteor]

blitz disconnection punishment is too crazy guys

one disconnection for like 30 seconds, -150, its like 7 wins

[outer sky]

It has to be severe because if someone leaves it fucks 7 other people

[waxen meteor]

true... but should have a fairly okay window for disconnection....

i mean most people's computer i guess doesn't restart wow in 5 seconds

with all of those loading bars etc.

[tight hill]

should really abandon the match or remove/lessen the mmr changes if it becomes a 7v8 or something. If a healer doesn't connect at start you still have to play and pretty much a guarenteed loss

[waxen meteor]

Agree

I think the problem is blitz losing 150 CR is just huge

CR farming is too slow

like solo if you get unlucky disconnect, first i feel i have way much longer tolerance time to reconnect

and even if i lose 150 cr, i can get back very quick

[outer sky]

Yeah that seems like a pretty obvious area for improvement

[waxen meteor]

Fundamentally, blitz is a bit too random

it's 8 on 8, even if you are significant better than the MMR, you can get some goofy teammate and still lose

[outer sky]

Low CR blitz is one of the most hilarious things you can take part in in this game

Anything can happen

[waxen meteor]

that's a disaster

[outer sky]

Its just fun to watch

[waxen meteor]

I have run into people with xxx glad title, or xxx legend title, and being cooked left and right

[outer sky]

Like a healer life gripping your FC back INTO the team fight

[waxen meteor]

It's literally a game of who got less dumb

[outer sky]

6v1 a warlock in the middle of the map while the EFC just prances by

Half the team getting blast waved off of LM

Shit I didn't even think was possible man

[waxen meteor]

yeah, initial mmr is a nightmare

like if you have a new char in solo arena, you reach 2k-2.1k mmr after first round mostly

[outer sky]

I once played a blitz where we got 3 capped on and our FC never even once picked up the flag

[waxen meteor]

then you start to play real game

man, blitz is impossible

[outer sky]

I didnt expect him to cap it

[waxen meteor]

you gotta swim in random shit for like 20 games

[outer sky]

This guy didnt even pick it up

[waxen meteor]

even at 2.4 mmr blitz, you still playing the game of who gets less dumb people

and when you get a dumb person that is super vocal

that's holy cow +++++

[outer sky]

Yeah and theyre always flaming everyone else lol

[waxen meteor]

IQ < 50, but really likes to call out strat

[dark kernel]

I dunno how deflated blitz is, but 2.4k would not be very good for that bracket

[outer sky]

Healer picking up orbs on kotmogu wondering why everyone is dying

[waxen meteor]

yeah 2.4 I feel it's more or less like 1.8 mmr solo now

but the worst feeling is that, you can't win those 1.8 mmr games lol

it's not like 3on3

[dark kernel]

If you guys played wotlK classic, shit was hilarious because 3000 rating in 2v2 was duelist.

[outer sky]

Yeah you cant carry

And you dont win because you killed someone

[waxen meteor]

you can carry only to a certain point

then it's ultimate frustration

[waxen meteor]

on yeah, when i called it out, and they called me have you played this game rogue?

tbh, I am fine handling loses due to skill gap

[outer sky]

All you can do is laugh and queue again

[waxen meteor]

but i am really annoyed losing because people have IQ issue

and it's not something like super complicated

[spring bough]

This lol

[night vector]

Saturday I had priest as FC deliver the flag to enemy base because "its impossible to tell if youre ally or horde in blitz". We lost because of that

🤷‍♂️

[outer sky]

If brains were dynamite most blitz players wouldn't have enough to blow their noses

[outer sky]

Yeah and see thats probably not even the dumbest thing ive heard in blitz and thats literally braindead

[waxen meteor]

and I lost a blitz yesterday, i went offcart (as ret), and died in a 1on3 right at open at the closet off cart to water.

then the other two finally arrived like after 40 seconds

they got wiped too of course

and started to cry I ghosted

I was like ???????????????????????????

[outer sky]

So one time I was in blitz on EOTS and they had the hunter sit our base and me and the druid go hit the enemy base. Well we got the base we were trying to ninja but like 30 seconds later the hunter lost his and everyone started flaming me like I guess they forgot they had him sit and not the rogue. But the most irritating part about it was EVEN THE DRUID WHO HELPED ME CAP THE ENEMY TEAM'S BASE 30 SECONDS EARLIER was flaming me for it!

[waxen meteor]

lol IQ issue

seriously blitz shows people's IQ

on the other hand, having a hunter sit is very risky anyway nowadays

it has to be a super skilled hunter to sit well

[outer sky]

"Super skilled hunter" man idk if those even exist below 3k rating lol

[waxen meteor]

well you got some random quite skilled guys in blitz

just like the more dumb people you randomly got

but even the most skilled, some are thiking in very strange way i promise

I was with Venruki's primary mage char in blitz earlier this season

in the new map (with a train that connects both sides)

I was calling him to go other side with me to get their cart, imo, this would have bene easy

guy went, no, let's not be greedy

[outer sky]

Deephaul Ravine

[waxen meteor]

you are assasin, let's all go mid

[outer sky]

Yeah lol

[waxen meteor]

and of course we lost it

I ended up with biggest dmg in midfield but, they kept stealing our cart

and we didn't do anything on theirs

because we were trying to be 'not greedy'

[fluid trench]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/136345707438276608/1421573819994214490/image.png?ex=68db818a&is=68da300a&hm=396c5a9609269d231497bbeac79689b495a3c3d389296e8019b936bd7497a9d4&

[spring bough]

I gotta be honest. I find blitz more fun than solo shuffle

Especially on my outlaw lol

[spring bough]

FC champ and base back cap champ for outlaws

[outer sky]

Its fun in the same was a circus is fun

[spring bough]

Feel like as one person in blitz I can change the outcome of the game a lot of the time

Hitting one base and changing it or getting a flag back and capped

[outer sky]

See i feel the opposite

Most games

[tight hill]

you guys have inspired me. First game i sat graveyard and killed their healers on repeat

[outer sky]

Some games yeah sure but they have to be close

I feel like blitz is almost never close

Either my team has a room temperature IQ or theirs does and its a blow out

And I cant change anything

[spring bough]

A good amount of mine were down to the wire yesterday

[sharp sierra]

Must be alliance you’re on huh

Horde has jobs during the day

[tight hill]

my team was 1600mmr and the other was 1300mmr? weird af

[spring bough]

My whole team went mid on the mines map. The second one of our healers died our rogue went lava. We ended up losing mid after I killed an enemy healer. They cap and are about to win but our rogue turned lava and we ended up wining by 10 points

[tight hill]

yea but i have a a job, i do wfh though so i guess that counts to something

[sharp sierra]

Haha all jokes man you’re good

[outer sky]

I own my own brick and mortar retail store and I just make the manager I hired work whenever I want to stay home and play video games all day 🤷🏻‍♂️

[spring bough]

“WFH” when I’m a week ahead on work and just play wow all day 😂

Like oh that reports not due till next week and I already have it done and printed? Sweet. “Working from home” LOL

[dark kernel]

What's the retail?

I wish I had some wfh these days, maybe again in the future. Waiting to switch jobs in a few years after my payout

[outer sky]

I sell firearms, ammunition, and accessories

[spring bough]

Oh we got the big guns in here

[dark kernel]

Ahhh yeah, that's a decent business

[waxen meteor]

dude outlaw is like teleporting 247 in blitz

[dark kernel]

Shame the gun dealer in here doesn't play outlaw

[spring bough]

4 hooks and sprint is OP. Stealth plus sprint I’m at 250% speed

[waxen meteor]

yeah it's impossible to chase outlaw

lol

[outer sky]

I play outlaw when its actually good thats just so rare it amounts to not playing it lol

[spring bough]

DH in blitz just deletes whole teams with aoe stun

Get the best of both worlds

[waxen meteor]

Dh in blitz is quite good too

[dark kernel]

You convinced me to level my DH alt Van

Even though I have zero free time nor disposable money

[spring bough]

DH and rogue both over 2k on blitz. I think ima push both to elite

Rogue gets no ques tho MMR is 1k over CR. DH pops since MMR and CR are almost the same

[waxen meteor]

My ret was finally close to 2.3 then disconnected

fuck

it's like wasting 2 days progress

if you are lucky

[spring bough]

Happened to me season 1. 2350ish. Thunderstorm power went out. Had to climb back from 2200 lol

[outer sky]

Ya know what the most satisfying thing in blitz is? Being in team fight on Silvershard Mines and your monk gets a leg sweep on basically everyone in Lava cart and you have a vanish for it and just get to spam bleed the whole team totally for free because of it.

[spring bough]

AOE stuns are OP. Rogue needs one

[waxen meteor]

Sin can do both teamwork and solo work

is quite fun too in blitz

if you can play in a good match

[spring bough]

If they replaced kidney or cheap with an aoe stun I wouldn’t be mad

[waxen meteor]

the problem is just those IQ < 50 people

[spring bough]

1min cd too. Wouldnt be mad

[outer sky]

Just seeing all of those leg sweep icons on my bigdebuffs

And having a vanish for it

[tight hill]

lol

[spring bough]

If rogue had an aoe stun blizz would have deleted our class by now

[outer sky]

Oh yeah thats one thing that drives me INSANE.

On EOTS

You have 2 bases

Clear win con

And your idiot teammate won't drop the flag

[spring bough]

I had to save my team on EOTS the other day man

[outer sky]

And you just know they'll get force capped

[spring bough]

Ret was on FR. I pushed it on outlaw. I get base from ret. Call for peel even before I capped

Not one teammate peels

Ret revives gets back FR. Then they cap. Somehow we get MT and BELF. I go for flag. Quad hook sprint it back to MT and that’s the win

[outer sky]

Quad hook is clutch in blitz

[tight hill]

what is this guy doing

[spring bough]

When u call for peel even before caping enemy base and no one comes it makes me go ballistic

It’s like why the fk yall sitting mid still when we could have had two bases fk the flag at that point

3 seasons and people still don’t know EOTS objectives

[outer sky]

Are you in Russia?

[tight hill]

nah eu so we play with ruskies

[outer sky]

Oh ok I thought the green text on your screen was Russian

[tight hill]

ah yeah, name-server

[waxen meteor]

oh yeha happens a lot

[outer sky]

Ah

[tight hill]

that ret sat at that inactive base the rest of the game lmao

[spring bough]

People report me for spam for doing call outs in blitz so I completely stopped unless it’s really needed

[waxen meteor]

and why was there a rogue even sapping him there lol

[tight hill]

low mmr blitz kinda fun

[spring bough]

For giggles

[waxen meteor]

to prentend there's something there to defend for real?

[outer sky]

Probably fell asleep. Doesn't need to be awake to play that class anyway

[waxen meteor]

tbh ret is too good as a sitter at open with full cd

but garbage after CD

you just need to wait

[tight hill]

cc breaks paired with DoTs so annoying

[outer sky]

Yep, I sap, blind trinket, vanish bop, sap again, vanish bubble, sap>cap

You eventually get it

[waxen meteor]

Yeah, just don't try to kill a ret at all

at full cd

[spring bough]

Yall making me wanna Que blitz on outlaw right now

But I know when I get home I’m gonna Que and it’ll sit for an hour with 0 pops

[waxen meteor]

Blitz is really a night game

high mmr gets no game during day time

[spring bough]

Yeah at 12am to 3am est Que time is 6-8min avg

But I can’t wait for then

[waxen meteor]

yeah

and tbh i feel late night is way much easier push

cause the game is somewhat more predictable

[outer sky]

Same

[waxen meteor]

8pm - 11pm you really gets random low iq people

i don't know how they got the mmr

but it's very hard to play

everyone is un-predicatable

[spring bough]

Good thing my mmr needs some losses

[waxen meteor]

yeah once you reach 3k, you need to lose to play

[spring bough]

I could probably lose 15 straight games rn on the rogue without losing any current rating

[gleaming sentinel]

I’m a nice sweet spot on my assa rogue. 2.5-2.6 mmr games pop often and pretty much going 50-50

8 wins to go

[spring bough]

Can we trade MMR so I can get to elite pls and ty

[molten hedge]

does sub and assa craft vers mast weps? i noticed not a lot of ppl have yet

i prob have extra conq bc i catalyzed more wpvp on my alt

[gleaming sentinel]

The free PvP weapons just more worth atm, maybe after uncap conquest might be worth getting more mastery

[tight hill]

did sudden demise proc?

[spring bough]

Nope def not

That would mean the game was working as intended if it went off LMAO

Imagine one day. Maybe in midnight. Where outlaw has a sudden demise and it’s called “walk the plank”

[tight hill]

feel like an outlaw execute could be really cool and with the class theme tbf

[pliant lintel]

sounds great.. the only problem is you'd have to get the enemy into execute range first

[woven gale]

blitz atm feels frustrating to me. Get wide MMR disparity between teams and your team will struggle to win a massive numbers advantage.

Legit just had 4 people on the enemy team stuck on mine all game. Rest of my team couldn't kill the other 4 players OR cap anything.

[pliant lintel]

if you got any high rated blitz healer friends you can duo queue so you get an mmr injection

other than that just queue at peak times and play the objective and keep queueing

[static holly]

Using the ping sys helps because a lot of ppl disable chat and don't understand any kind of tactics or don't use their brains

[waxen meteor]

Yeah that's like cheating haha

I think you have to be in good relationship with the healer and you also have to be super good

i think healer is like instant queue, but adding you becomes normal queue lol

[pliant lintel]

yea when i make fresh rogue i get just get my friends to mmr boost me to 3k then i don't have to deal with the morons haha

[spring bough]

If outlaw ever gets one it should feel like a fatality scene in mortal Kombat lol

[pliant lintel]

yea man haha

would be sick

[spring bough]

Damn I should find a low MMR healer to Que with

[woven gale]

Im just trying to get the 1800 appearance from blitz and idk anyone that heals blitz

[spring bough]

Just need to get some lucky games can prob get 1800 off less than 10 games

[pliant lintel]

are you still in placement games?

[dark moon]

starting to get excited like when im having one of those perverse cravings and then midnight would end up being shit and rogue will do tww damage and it will be over

[spring bough]

That’s why I’m getting good at BM and DH my contingency plans

Blizz won’t let devourer fail

And havoc is never bad and BM has its moments

[pliant lintel]

i can't stand playing zugzug classes, games too boring

[woven gale]

Nope. Placement games got nuked by people afking or refusing to touch a single objective

Been in 1700-2.2k mmr for a while with CR stuck at 1700 because theres just non stop afking and ignoring objectives.

[dark kernel]

Just gotta keep playing.

Every season I get one character who has his rating nuked from bad RNG but it levels out

[pliant lintel]

ye eventually you'll streak like 5 games and it will boost your mmr

[dark kernel]

I had one of my outlaw that dead ass had like a 38% win rate in shuffle for a minue

Horrifying

[woven gale]

The MMR is really weird like it feels if I win twice its straight back into 2.2k but my teamates still play the exact same way

[pliant lintel]

just try to capitalise on node maps, you can pretty much carry a team as a rogue if you ninja/delay caps assassinate key targets

[dark kernel]

The issue in blitz is people at 2.2k are not...fantastic.

[woven gale]

Been trying but ive watched enemies try to chase me from point to point all game and watch my team lose 6v3

[pliant lintel]

try to use stealth more so they can't target you with battlegroundenemies and counter you

also flag carry maps rogues are really good at FCing

you just take silhouette pvp talent and have somebody run on mount in front of you to base

[dark kernel]

Does Assa have silhouette

[pliant lintel]

idk thought he was sub tbh

[dark kernel]

I mean I think so too

I'm just curious

If you could run silhouette Assa with 4 reduced cooldown steps that would be kinda bonkers

Fatebound*

[pliant lintel]

ya probably not then sub only

[woven gale]

Naw ive been playing Assassin

Felt like I was doing a million more damage and more consistant then outlaw so I swapped to ass

[pliant lintel]

yerr outlaw is really bad in blitz too much downtime so you can't reset AR enough but you can 4x hook to quick cap nodes or fc

[woven gale]

The 50% reduced sprint CD is the only one I can think of helping with flag running

But thats also 50% reduced duration

And usually I get very little help in this elo

[pliant lintel]

Ye that’s a bait

[woven gale]

So I die once Cloak and Evasion are gone

[pliant lintel]

Assas is still pretty good, just a lot easier to carry games on sub

[woven gale]

What makes sub easier to carry matches on?

[river pollen]

Big noob question but what makes thritle tea pop on its own

Thistle*

[woven gale]

Dropping to 30 energy and below

[dark kernel]

It has insane solo kill pressure against flag carriers

Especially with zerking and the flag debuff

[river pollen]

Ohh ok ty

[woven gale]

Oh is that cause they have the pocket realm duel? I haven't touched sub

[river pollen]

All this time i thought i had a keybind or something that i was misusing lmao

[dark kernel]

That's been gone for a year funny enough, it's just their big burst rotation will do about 15m damage

[woven gale]

I feel like 15m isn't hard for ass to quickly hit

[river pollen]

Gone but never forgotten

[woven gale]

Or is it like

Instant 15mil

[river pollen]

I also noticed another thing did they permanently change how shadowstep works this patch or is it a bug

Like it teleports me to the ground a lot of the times even if the person im shadowstepping behind is not

[woven gale]

Is there a guide for quick one shot on Sub for pvp?

[pliant lintel]

you can 100-0 people on sub without needing all of your cooldowns and you can dance cheap shot spam to peel

[woven gale]

How hard is it to pick up though? I always heard sub was the hardest

[pliant lintel]

doing damage is easy on sub it's knowing how to use your toolkit

[potent pivot]

Wdym

Like if a person is on top of something/on an edge?

[harsh kiln]

i'd ssay if a player is midair from a gate or something, i've had that happen alot in arena (specifically if one end of the gate is on a higher Z axis than the other)

[dark moon]

i am counting on that cause i want to smash enemies with meteors or whatever that spec throws at people

[harsh kiln]

if you step while they are mid flight from a gate, you end up on the ground where they currently were when you hit the key. not where the gate ends..

[woven gale]

Does Sub have antiheal to help deal with killing healer EFCs?

[pliant lintel]

wound poison?

[dark kernel]

I've asked this before. But I didn't actually get an answer.

Does anybody know where to go in an existing WA to remove just the air horn sound

I want everything else it has, I just want to delete that part

[potent pivot]

That’s always been that way I thought

[potent pivot]

It should be pretty easy to find if you click around the different tabs one sec

[dark kernel]

I know man people have told me this but every time there's so many options to sift through and I am not good with these

[potent pivot]

Check the Actions tab