pvp

[jolly sierra]

they have the biggest xmog wastes ever seen

[fluid trench]

what's the point in playing if you can't mog

[spring bough]

killing healers behind pillars with pets gives me the greatest joy in the world

nice 2 mil LOS ravenous leap LOL

[jolly sierra]

idk, some just ERP in moon guard

rather than do anything useful

[fluid trench]

I mean that's useful because they're not queuing

https://tenor.com/view/kekwtf-gif-18599263

[jolly sierra]

fair LOL

[spring bough]

is there like a crafting union strike going on rn?

been in trade channel for 10min with no whispers

[sharp sierra]

me with uhdk

you thought i was limited to coil? meld this loser

[potent pivot]

Are you on a diff faction from normal

[spring bough]

nope. ally on tich

[potent pivot]

Strange

Only time I’ve ever had issues was being on the faction no one plays on the realm

Though a decent amount of crafters also make alts to sit on the opposite faction for orders

[sharp sierra]

imagine just finding out trade chat isnt cross faction

couldnt be me

[potent pivot]

Idk why they’ve left certain arbitrary things stuck in the past like that

[wet crown]

well yeah assume they are stunned

Why don't the deathstalker builds take kb? >_>

[potent pivot]

because its not good

[wet crown]

also

what build do yall run in open world stuff?

god I hate paladins

[fluid trench]

May I offer a fine vintage pally push

[wet crown]

Whoever said

"hey let's make forbearance 30 seconds"

should be fired

[fluid trench]

No they should fire whoever made herald scale so hard in PvP

[wet crown]

it's so stupid

Even a DH

you know if you catch a DH without a trinket and without any defensives running

at least they are just as screwed as anyone else

like 3 immunities for paladins though, and loh, wtf.

[sharp sierra]

i tried it and i didnt like it, i really like DS but outside of 2s it feels bad halfway through a game if it doesnt end fast

[wet crown]

My main thing for now is that fatebound feels like I'm not doing damage

besides the burst combo that shreds people

[wet crown]

But idk, could be something I'm not understanding with fatebound. How hard are people's envenoms critting for?

[dark moon]

During cool downs ive hit 6-10 mils, but outside it's massaging people

[potent pivot]

you should still be doing decent damage, its not like it does a shit load less than deathstalker

even last couple seasons before this new tier set, fatebound could be run. it wasn't unviable, now its just even more competitive.

[stoic spruce]

Not as good = unviable

You should know this is how people view things

[potent pivot]

[wet crown]

Am I late to the party or does turning not impact the paladin blind

Searing glare or whatever

[glass hazel]

you need to dodge\los its conical ability

turning does nothing afaik

[wet crown]

I thought you could turn it

How is that fucking fair lol

That should be a rogue ability wtf is that

[glass hazel]

true would be nice if our bomb was like that

[wet crown]

Why don't more paladins use that, that's broken

Oh my god

[potent pivot]

are you talking about blinding light or searing glare

iirc you can turn one, but not the other

[wet crown]

The one that makes you miss.

[potent pivot]

ye searing glare

[wet crown]

I wouldn't even be mad if it was a skilled class to play

But your cat could jump on the keyvoard and perform a kill combo

[stiff cedar]

Wait, neither blind nor glaze can be turned as far as I know. Which are you referring to?

[potent pivot]

Idk I might be misremembering

[grave basin]

Buddy played too much priory

Can't turn and dodge both blind and searing glare

[potent pivot]

yea i was thinking of stepping glare i think or something idfk

[stoic spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

^Trickz rn

[languid ravine]

if you ask me now after playing Ret a lot I could swear you can turn Searing Glare to some degree

[spring bough]

U know what does decent damage? BM pack leader

It my new outlaw hero spec it’s pretty good

[fathom crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z48eTXm7HCM

made a short guide for assa in pvp if anyone is interested

[wanton breach]

short guide
48 min

[stoic spruce]

Rogue players lie

Many such cases

[spring bough]

48 min to find out ur chances to hit elite with any rogue spec is………

[waxen meteor]

this is werid dmg composition hmm

lol seriously

[spring bough]

How so what am I doing wrong on DH lol

Feels like I crush most lobbies dmg but can I be doing more????

[lone jasper]

Thx for the guide, what does kotmogu mean /shy

[fathom crag]

shouldve said it mb, kotmogu is the bg

for blitz

[waxen meteor]

damn i must be doing sth wrong

I can't do this much dmg compared to ret

[spring bough]

All I do is immo aura, then reaver glaive into eye beam. Essence. Annihilation. Death sweep. Demon form. Eye beam. Annihilation. Death sweep. Rinse repeat

[waxen meteor]

my big glaive and fury of aldrachi is mostly 5-6 th

[spring bough]

Always annihilation before death sweep to 20% empower it when reaver glaive is up

[waxen meteor]

I think I might need to review my gear or talent

haven't really checked it since w2

[languid ravine]

Skip to minute 19:00 to see this Ret Paladin getting kicked down 400 stairs

[spring bough]

I have 95% mastery or so. Rest is verse/crit/haste. haste around 7-8%

[lone jasper]

Once again, big thanks for this wonderful video. My problem is that during these intense fights I can never properly control my stacks and the right moments, and I don’t even know anymore how to get to the point where I can pick the correct timing especially in solo shuffle.

[wet crown]

I thought you cpuld this whole time and have been lucky by virtue of every ret player being a total bot

[waxen meteor]

Me too, but i hardly reach 2m dps

[spring bough]

Tbh was a once in a blue moon round. Most of the overalls that lobby was 1.5mil or so

[waxen meteor]

Okay that seems to be closer to where i can do

I don't think I ever go beyond ret

those three holy lines connection just makes ret like holy affl lock

[spring bough]

Fotm rets are so bad tho lol

[waxen meteor]

it's kinda boring

but it's strong though i feel

if everyone plays in a organized way

most likely other team has no way to answer after 2 mins, and ret should still have a couple of main CD on hand, with big dps on high healing reduction %

[wet crown]

It's annoying everywhere else though

Like if I find a ret in the world I just autolose no matter how mediocre they are

[waxen meteor]

that doesn't matter with ret's build

lay of hand + bubble + bop/spellwards, you acatually gonna kill through 400% of HP

[wet crown]

What build

Not on a rogue lul

Maybe if I made that full mast fury war

Forbearance needs to be a minute again though

[waxen meteor]

Forbearance as 30 seconds is fine, more because you can bop in stun

and you can bubble in Forbearance

and each hoj can give you a 100-20

[spring bough]

So is my BM 1,2;3 spam but ima keep rocking it best chance I got for elite this season lol

[waxen meteor]

I just started my BM too, yesterday

haven't got the 9 crafted items yet

[spring bough]

Yeah I’m a day in on keys and I’m 1600. On PvP I’m at 102 rounds and 2270 or something 😂

[waxen meteor]

I am feeling really defeated at my DH

[spring bough]

Just incredible when you send a stun on the healer. Follow up with a frost trap on the healer and the DPS 100% to 0 during all that

[waxen meteor]

still haven't done DH 2.1 alt, I am kinda disappointed to myself

[waxen meteor]

exactly, and you can also scatter to peel etc.

tbh BM's role is super clear, when to do what

probably best spec for new pvp player to learn

[spring bough]

Damn gotta get that 2.1k on the DH felt ez with it

[waxen meteor]

I feel I am doing everything right just cannot win, went 2086 last weekend but that's it

just feels my dmg is not there somehow

one lobby everyone was chatting with me about how i used reverse magic perfectly

but i ended up 2-4 pfff

it's a 2.1 lobby but tbh that was a clearly good lobby over current 2.1

[spring bough]

Tbh I feel like teammates fail me on DH a good amount. It’s like I’ve thrown all the stuns and banish at the right time and people still die on my team

[waxen meteor]

Yeah, I feel it's very dependent on teammate

[spring bough]

I’ve found training heals in melee lobby as DH is undefeated lol

[waxen meteor]

Like as sin rogue, if teammates decide to do something dumb

I can change the way I play and still win

for DH, I think I can still only zug...

[fluid trench]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

Cyclone the dots off

[waxen meteor]

it's similar as sub rogue, sometimes if teammate decides to be dumb, I feel cannot win

or maybe i am just not skilled enough to be flexible with teammate doing random shit

[gleaming sentinel]

Got elite on my assa rogue in blitz. Now for shuffle

[spring bough]

DH pure zug zug just pray teammate doesn’t do some dumbass LOS shit lol

[waxen meteor]

and that's what i meant by feeling dependent

[spring bough]

I can’t get blitz ques on my outlaw…. Last time I sat for 3 hours and nothing popped. Haven’t tried since

[waxen meteor]

i dont know how many times people just try to kill through defense cds

not sure, i will play a bit DH this week and put it away

probably i will finish bm even faster

like i putaway other spec alt sooner than dh....

[spring bough]

BM at 695 doing more dmg in keys than my 712 outlaw and 706 DH. Safe to say I’ve packed everything away but BM

[gleaming sentinel]

Friday and Saturday nights

[spring bough]

I just wanna get home from work and Que like 4 blitz’s and can’t even do that lol

[gleaming sentinel]

The high mmr games are really late at night it’s so dumb

[grave basin]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/midnight-alpha-begins-october-2nd-deep-dive-and-dev-q-a-october-1st-378587

[spring bough]

Cool. When tuning

[grave basin]

Yo alpha REALLY soon

Never enjoy your pink season

[spring bough]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/you-can-earn-all-artifact-appearances-in-legion-remix-except-for-mage-tower-378588
@stoic spruce @jolly sierra continue last nights discussion

We gonna get MT skins the last 2 weeks. Calling it now. December boys

[wintry dew]

/Doubt

[fluid trench]

I did all 36 in legion I see no problem with releasing a recolor or something, hell same with my glad mount or elite sets or tabards release recolors

[gleaming sentinel]

With how wacky stats get in remix it would be weird to bring back mage tower

[spring bough]

@stoic spruce where is that December announcement u linked

[jolly sierra]

no mage tower ones

magnificent

[spring bough]

$20 that last “additional rewards” week in December is MT recolors

Someone start the bet pool

[jolly sierra]

lets see

[spring bough]

14 more days. What we leveling yall

What race we picking for the new rogue

[jolly sierra]

but w popo which have $USD

[glass hazel]

human as always lol

[gleaming sentinel]

High mountain outlaw angle

[glass hazel]

i play only humans :x

[spring bough]

This. Reduced damage taken. Solo TANK rogue

[glass hazel]

or wait will it transfer back to retail later?

[spring bough]

You can xfer it back to retail anytime during legion remix

[glass hazel]

sweet

[spring bough]

No need to wait till the end like MOP

[glass hazel]

might level ne then since i have human rogue already

[gleaming sentinel]

Or could be a good excuse to get the zandalar troll heritage done

[glass hazel]

just for pvp :x

they ugly af

[jolly sierra]

idk in my case

maybe i gotta delete a wasted alt

and redo it again for remix

[stoic spruce]

People got hyped for this?

You can earn literally all of them in retail

Minus MT ofc

[stoic spruce]

Not MT but all the other weapons

https://www.wowhead.com/news/midnight-alpha-begins-october-2nd-deep-dive-and-dev-q-a-october-1st-378587?utm_source=discord-webhook

Outlaw rework inc

[gleaming pawn]

[stoic spruce]

Believe

Unless it's bad

Then dont.

[spring bough]

What rework

[gusty hedge]

heard we are getting 5 extra character slots for lemix

[spring bough]

We are

[midnight grove]

is it possible to simplify every spec down to "prevent them from doing x to win"

obviously not something like dont let a melee guy melee you

but like dont let marksman get their combo on you or something

like what is the winning move against a ret paladin? uninstall the game if you see one?

[spring bough]

Probably not quite a few X ways to win for some

[midnight grove]

trying to learn anything about this game regarding pvp is such a chore

[spring bough]

Do not cast addon. Big help for pvp. Itll tell u to change target if there’s a defensive or what not up. For them popping offensives, there’s a few addons that’ll shout at you to CC them

[spring bough]

Addons addons and more addons or weak auras for PvP

[midnight grove]

i dont want addons i want to understand the winconditions of specs

[gusty hedge]

Keep ur eyes glued to the screen

[spring bough]

Just so many it’s hard without to be honest

[waxen meteor]

it's difficult to say, every spec nowadays have similar amount of CDs (good or bad..)

some of them are buffs/status you can monitor (Like Shadowblade)

some of them are what you apply once (like Deathmark)

[sharp sierra]

ele or lock

prob ele

[spring bough]

Gross. Most I’d do is an enhance. Melee only baby

[sharp sierra]

its more like "how well you react to x is the deciding factor"

[sharp sierra]

i like enh but i need a caster

i already have every class maxxed

guess now its time for every specLOL

[spring bough]

I feel so exposed playing caster

Only one I’ve tried is void elf caster cause they have the racial where spell casting isn’t delayed from being hit

[sharp sierra]

im actually on the fence of MM undead or Ele orc

[spring bough]

Surprised most casters aren’t void elf. Racial seems OP for caster

[sharp sierra]

oh wait yeah i need to go alliance now

[waxen meteor]

I feel void elf is quite good for caster too

also the additional teleport

[gilded gulch]

undead in 2025

[sharp sierra]

the goats

[waxen meteor]

hey what's wrong with that, i main undead rogue

[gilded gulch]

boomer race fr

[waxen meteor]

I just play more alt rogue arena

[sharp sierra]

this is wow bro

the entire game is for boomers

[gilded gulch]

technicalyl arent darkfallen elves

undead

🤔

[waxen meteor]

Bommer game for real

[pliant lintel]

void elf is alright for lock and sp eveything else has instant cast abilities or better mobility

[gilded gulch]

Yeah idk orc/nelf game fr

need to remove racials

[sharp sierra]

literally every elf in this game is a form of another what are you on about 🤣

[waxen meteor]

True

delete them

just blue elf or red elf

[gilded gulch]

Well meant moreso darkfallen are basically risen elves

[sharp sierra]

we are the banshees warrios

how dare you

[gilded gulch]

Idk chinese wow client has bette rundead.

Actual zombies not weird skeletons

that cant wear pants

[sharp sierra]

id prefer a skeleton if it was an actual skeleton and not some half ghoul thing

zombies would be weird

[gilded gulch]

Idk i like wearing pants

not have them cut off mid way

[sharp sierra]

its air flow

[gilded gulch]

Though its hard for me to take anyone who mogs cata and prior gear serious

since shit is all like 2 polygons

[waxen meteor]

Yeah I am running that lol

[jolly sierra]

they are

and darkfallen NEs should stayed in horde, night elf culture sucks

[compact bloom]

is using PvE gear troll? it's myth track so higher ilvl than the honor gear

[potent pivot]

if it has vers

or its tier set

its fine

[compact bloom]

oh yah i'm outlaw it has vers

lol

[potent pivot]

Prolly fine then, might want to replace certain things later on as you go/earn conq. Just depends on your stat distribution etc

[sharp sierra]

im trying to be nice to healers but holy shit theres so many bad ones today

[potent pivot]

Though for outlaw stat distribution barely matters anyway as long as you have enough haste/vers it’s whatever

[dark kernel]

I've not played wow in 2 weeks

How is it

[sharp sierra]

Do you like spending 30 minutes waiting for a game? Then same way it was when you left

[dense furnace]

Hi do u have to play night elf for rogue ?

is is that mandatory ?

[jolly sierra]

i play panda

night elf rogue is optimal

but not mandatory

[dense furnace]

I've seen many times while pushing 2s people playing orc for outlaw but only outlaw, it's ok for the 2 others spec ?

[jolly sierra]

what is your desired rating?

[dense furnace]

highest possible

[potent pivot]

orc isn't an outlaw thing

idk where thats coming from

[dense furnace]

everytime i try hard 2s, the first rogue ladder is outlaw orc

[jolly sierra]

orc is used in sub

[potent pivot]

night elf is the optimal race for both outlaw and assa

[formal pebble]

The Orc is just flexing

[potent pivot]

sub is the spec that can be human/orb/nelf, whatever

[jolly sierra]

if is your first time

don't care about rating

play whatever you wish

[spring bough]

how long do these character act transfers take.... been like 20 min

[potent pivot]

2s ladder is also kind of a meme

just play what you want to play

if being optimal is what you want, play night elf

[jolly sierra]

fucking night elves

FUUUUUCK

[dense furnace]

But when i play something i wanna be optimal but at same time i wanna play blood elf

its insane always night elf

[jolly sierra]

then go blood elf

[dense furnace]

i wish they nerf meld

[jolly sierra]

xd

[potent pivot]

yeah lets just nerf rogue again

[dense furnace]

just balance it ?

[potent pivot]

[dense furnace]

nerf meld but buff rogue

[spring bough]

go gnome if u want something more optimal. 1min racial gets u out of roots and it doesnt trigger CD on pvp trinket

[potent pivot]

yeah they never do

[sharp sierra]

Go Nelf and save yourself the trouble

It’s a big gain on rogue. We all look at at on other races in aw

[dense furnace]

yeah thats what i'm thinking

[sharp sierra]

It’s a whole ass extra vanish

[dense furnace]

i'll just dont play pvp rogue then

[potent pivot]

[sharp sierra]

I say this while on a undead rogue

[sharp sierra]

I’m ngl

Yeah

It’s a chore

[potent pivot]

if its that big of a deal to you then just play what race you want

like

[dense furnace]

yeye but im someone that tryhards but i wont play nelf

[potent pivot]

[sharp sierra]

Rogue is great for you then! We try hard by pressing 400 more buttons for less than 1 global of damage from anyone else!

In fact this discord is actually just a conversion group

[gilded gulch]

i mean if you want to be "optimal" nelf is bis for everyone almost

besides warriors

realistically racials dont matter as much as people pretend they do

[dense furnace]

as caster velf same as nelf

[sharp sierra]

An entire extra vanish is not a minor thing

[gilded gulch]

No it aint

[dense furnace]

as lock velf is way better than nelf

[gilded gulch]

meld is better than velf if you time it

to dodge something that wins the game

[dense furnace]

the tp helps u port twice in a row

thats insanely good

[gilded gulch]

Maybe at low ratings

i thought we were talking the velf pushback...

[dense furnace]

nono

pushback can be nice but its not as good as the port

[gilded gulch]

locks barely kite anyway most of the time they turret

happens when you're the tanky caster

[dense furnace]

what ? do u even play the game XD

[gilded gulch]

How is lock not tanky

[dense furnace]

u dont port a war avatar u're just dead

[formal pebble]

key word, "Most"

[gilded gulch]

avatar isnt the bulk of their damage

they might press it with their other things

also dont good warriors avatar for rootbreak

last i checked you space avatar from your other offensive cds if you're playing people with braincells...

[dense furnace]

yeah so what, taht doest change the fact that u cant tank avatar

[gilded gulch]

Yeah but good luck creating enough distance with velf that one charge or felrush doesnt instantly close

[dense furnace]

??? u press the tp and then port

thats how u create distance

void elf tp lock port

[gilded gulch]

Why are you playing that far from your port

to begin with

[dense furnace]

u dont understand

its like the monk port

u port out and port back

[jolly sierra]

how other races deal with it then lol

[sharp sierra]

Another shuffle with healers getting mad and afking

Boutta just go back to healing.

[dense furnace]

u port u just dont port back to ur old place

[gilded gulch]

Are we genuinely pretending a velf port isnt instantly going to get closed

by a charge

[jolly sierra]

you aren't replying my question dude

[dense furnace]

just read what i type wtf

[dense furnace]

lock have a port in their class

[gilded gulch]

Yeah you aren't playing far from your port unless you're trolling.

[dense furnace]

u gotta be trolling

[jolly sierra]

"u dont port a war avatar u're just dead"

that was my question about

xd

[dense furnace]

u guys know lock have a port ?

[gilded gulch]

Yeah you play close enough to instantly use it

preferably out of los

[dense furnace]

yes no shit

but then u repress void elf racial

to go back to ur old place

after war leap on u for example

[gilded gulch]

or just kill him for an overextend

[jolly sierra]

or just disarm him

or just cast evasion

dunno

[potent pivot]

they're talking about warlock

[spring bough]

[potent pivot]

not rogue

lmao

[jolly sierra]

he is talking about

void elf warlock

XD

bah

rogue

[gilded gulch]

If a warrior leaps behind los

[potent pivot]

ikr

[gilded gulch]

and you dont merk him for overextending into shit spot

[potent pivot]

[gilded gulch]

idk thats on you

[dense furnace]

ok uve never played the game

[spring bough]

at what point did we transition from night elf rogue to void elf lock i missed it

[dense furnace]

idk why i try to teach u this

[jolly sierra]

i will say something

pandaren rogue

is the best race combo ever

you have 2 gouges

[spring bough]

brb gonna go play my dark iron dwarf BM hunt

[jolly sierra]

and u get 1% more vers for free

[gilded gulch]

who even plays void elf lock

[jolly sierra]

we passed from

[potent pivot]

it has been gettin a lil popular

[spring bough]

isnt the no pushback racial good for caster?

[jolly sierra]

night elf rogue

towards blood elf rogue

then void elf rogue

[dense furnace]

me and every high rated lock

[potent pivot]

not every

[dense furnace]

very nice vs pet classes

[dense furnace]

ikr but most of them

[jolly sierra]

xiani how many rating do u have?

as xp?

[spring bough]

bro if u are Dean get outta here i stg lol

[jolly sierra]

xd

[gilded gulch]

.7, i mean not everyone plays velf

thug doesnt

and hes better than most locks

[potent pivot]

its around a 50/50 split

[jolly sierra]

almost everyone is playing NE if possible

[potent pivot]

if you're counting all 3 specs

[dense furnace]

what u trynna prove ?

[gilded gulch]

nelf is busted

[jolly sierra]

if night elf pallies does exist

[dense furnace]

u show nothing there

[jolly sierra]

they would be viable too

that is sure

[dense furnace]

i was rank 1 demo too last season and i was void elf so what

[gilded gulch]

point is you said void elf is so much better

it isnt

[dense furnace]

as demo it is

destro u can instant cast so its not important

i said its as good as nelf

[jolly sierra]

night elf does a target loss w shadowmeld

that is enough

[gilded gulch]

why is thugonomics human

then

🤔

[dense furnace]

top 1 in every spec in 3s are all void elf

[gilded gulch]

if you say voidchaos is better than nozom or thug

💀

[gilded gulch]

arent all the good players queueing mop rn

anyway

[potent pivot]

i don't see how top 1 matters

at all

[gilded gulch]

usually the good players dont q

[gilded gulch]

until season announcement

[dense furnace]

yeah but 2s nobody cares

i was r1 2s as draenei lock

it doesnt matter

[jolly sierra]

so?

[wintry dew]

Aight we extended the "this race is better than X" conversation to a point where there's no really a why we talking about it

[jolly sierra]

dunno, the chat turned pointless tbh

[gilded gulch]

I feel you can only really say its so much better

when 90% of a ladder is orc

or something

[jolly sierra]

why this guy bother in asking if he will play whatever he considers good in the very end xd

[gilded gulch]

doesnt jmorph still work

anyway

[potent pivot]

Idk the entire racial discussion is always pointless

[spring bough]

@waxen meteor these rets got NOTHIN on my BM... 30mil more ST dam than a ret i was just with

[potent pivot]

If you don’t want to play what’s optimal and want to play what’s optimal, just make a decision

Not that difficult

Plenty of people have seen success without playing exact optimal builds or races

[jolly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/elves-chad-dwarf-gif-25266189

[potent pivot]

If you’re so tryhard that you want to be r1 on the ladder for a week or however long that lasts, play the optimal thing then

[gilded gulch]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/jySTNi0l3L3AIFbE-VSJznwRvctK3ih4z2cpsRJ1Pj4/https/media.tenor.com/woFBqUi19aoAAAPo/elves-chad.mp4

[wintry dew]

https://tenor.com/view/hardy-tom-venom-thats-hot-gif-18598334

[sharp sierra]

This discord is 100% only 2400 players and the numbers on wow sites are wrong

[wintry dew]

I don't even pvp anymore

[gilded gulch]

i mean arent all the actual top ladder players

not queueing until 2 week announcement

[sharp sierra]

Idk

[potent pivot]

Depends

Certain people queue a bit mid session

[gilded gulch]

Only reason i remember the voidchaos name was because he was having a full on manchild meltdown

[sharp sierra]

Pikaboo and super tease gotta be like 99% of the leaderboards though 😭

[gilded gulch]

in sl

[potent pivot]

Like ivan

Or pika

[gilded gulch]

pika queues whenever the streaming money

is most prime for it

[sharp sierra]

He plays literally daily or every other day

[gilded gulch]

Well yeah look at his viewers and donos

on average

[sharp sierra]

On average making more than both of us

[gilded gulch]

he did have a league stint

[sharp sierra]

So that’s not a factor

[gilded gulch]

when that was getting him more views

[sharp sierra]

We should be glad he even streams wow at this point

[gilded gulch]

He'd probably make more streaming league long term.

[sharp sierra]

He’d make more money just being a variety streamer he’s goated at lots of games

Bro hopped on rivals tourney and got hella lucky with his team and still did more than half the people

[gilded gulch]

Like he has the social personality to succeed as a streamer tbh.

[sharp sierra]

Idk why he restricts himself to wow

[gilded gulch]

People like nahj are good but they don't have personalities for streaming.

Comparatively

[sharp sierra]

That’s understandable

[potent pivot]

Nahj still a goat though

[gilded gulch]

Yeah he's good

hes just not hyper energy that you need

to be a big streamer

[potent pivot]

Yeah

[gilded gulch]

Pika just played it forever

ig thats why

[sharp sierra]

Pika and xar playing any game together would net huge views

[potent pivot]

Just love of the game

I mean he’s competed in it for like a decade or more so

Makes sense

[gilded gulch]

xar has the personality

[sharp sierra]

I never really understand the hate for him when he gets every class to 2400

Him and xar

[gilded gulch]

also not everyone can succeed with a neckbeard persona like asmongold

[sharp sierra]

Like they put out content all the time compared to anyone else

[gilded gulch]

xar is like an "average successful person who exists outside wow"

kind of guy

[sharp sierra]

Shit I’d even say supatease could do so much better if he did more than wow

[gilded gulch]

....or you can go the freakout streamer route

like crusader

to get views

[potent pivot]

A lot of wow streamers have come to the best game in the world lately

[gilded gulch]

[potent pivot]

Savix and them

[sharp sierra]

What game?

[potent pivot]

Osrs

[sharp sierra]

I’m already fine with ps2 graphics I don’t need 99 ghrapics

[gilded gulch]

Idk pika is just made to be a streamer

[potent pivot]

Pika played it for like.. a day

[gilded gulch]

personality wise

[sharp sierra]

Isn’t that game just one button rotation but for like everybody

[potent pivot]

No

Not sure what you even mean actually

Rs3 has action bars and abilities but isn’t as popular

Osrs is almost all clicks

[sharp sierra]

Yeah that I can’t do

Not for me

[potent pivot]

A lot of people think that until they try it

But I feel it

[sharp sierra]

I watch my friends play and I am not at all interested in that style of combat/grinding

I will respect its history though

[potent pivot]

It goes hard ngl

[sharp sierra]

We all know ESO is best MMO PvP

[potent pivot]

Lot of competitive wow players play it now I had no idea

[sharp sierra]

[potent pivot]

Like rwf guys

[potent pivot]

Idk the only mmo I like pvp in is wow

Nothing else like it for me personally

[sharp sierra]

I only like eso cause I like elder scrolls, it’s vastly more boring than wow but….man you really don’t think about how much VAing really brings a games most random quests to life

[potent pivot]

True

Ff14 story goes pretty hard

I’ve never really played eso, just seen some vids n stuff

[spring bough]

is palumor streaming

me and this lock just smoked his rogue

2 milly ravenous leap GG lol

[potent pivot]

he got you that game

[spring bough]

he got the DH lmao

[potent pivot]

mister huntindwarfs

[potent pivot]

i mean he won

not killed you specifically

[spring bough]

he got the lock in a bomb round 1

.>

just smoked this lock lol

[potent pivot]

yea gg in the ope lmao

[spring bough]

ended with a 3-3... if i coulda saved lock round 1 in bomb coulda... RIP

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

sub rogue just too bursty lmao

BM ST damage is just nutty

[wet crown]

What is fenryr and why does it murder shit

[spring bough]

its a passive hunter talent lol

[stoic spruce]

October 2nd

Trust

Out of subterfuge hell

[grave basin]

Bte auto proc

Trust

RTB auto proc

Outlaw becomes the new BM

[sharp sierra]

Basically like our internal bleeding passive

[stoic spruce]

You'd like that wouldn't you

[grave basin]

I have zero rating on my BM in 2 expansions

Just going with Thier track record of reworks

Other than arcane which still requires a barrage WA cause there's 183736 conditionals

[wet crown]

I -wish- internal did that much

I might be able to kill paladins without deathmark

MIGHT

[spring bough]

why is there a rogue in dorn named Vancleefjr

[jolly sierra]

its ur fan

[jaunty mirage]

Literally a passive auto proc that can do non-crit evis/envenom damage

[wet crown]

why is it always the braindead specs that get overbuffed

[jaunty mirage]

They’ve backed themselves into a corner with a lot of spec design

BM by design is just a damage bot, so it’s only good if it does massive damage

[wet crown]

Like

How is that fine

but let's nerf outlaw

[jaunty mirage]

You can’t give bm sv utility

[wet crown]

Which wasn't at awc for it's damage to begin with

[jaunty mirage]

Sort of like how sub is designed around vaporizing people in a cheap

[spring bough]

it avgs more per hit than any finisher on outlaw

its disgusting

[wet crown]

Isn't outlaw like turbo nerfed in pvp too

it's cdr

[jaunty mirage]

They’ve designed it that way so the only way to adjust it is via damage

[wet crown]

Oh, fun fact by the way

Arcane mages have a permanent -10% movement speed

Because of some weird pvp only change for slipstream a few seasons ago

But bm is fine you guys

I'd rather paladin get nerfed though, I can kill a bad bm

I can't kill even a mediocre paladin cleanly it feels like

[jaunty mirage]

Ret is just too good atm obviously

[wet crown]

why does dawnlight do as much damage as a bursting affliction lock

[jaunty mirage]

Paladin meta and hunter meta are like the two worst and we currently have both at the same time

[sharp sierra]

free rupture on a 6 second cooldown

with x2 the damager

[wet crown]

I can kill a shitty hunter player at least

[sharp sierra]

im ngl i dont even care about the damage

nobody should have a full immune while pumping out dps besides MAYBE a healer

[wet crown]

Just disarm it - oh wait, we removed all the disarms in wod

now you gotta drop one of three basically mandatory honor talents to field it 🙂

[sharp sierra]

i wish theyd just make evasion pvp talent baseline

[wet crown]

feint?

[sharp sierra]

oop

[stoic spruce]

Fent???

[gleaming sentinel]

No tuning. I’m gearing a ret.

[spring bough]

BM is fun

[jaunty mirage]

Yeah being able to do full damage in bubble was such a decision of all time

[stoic spruce]

Honestly I don't have an issue with hpal healing during bubble

It's ret specifically that's an issue

[wet crown]

Oh yeah, that's another thing

didn't they used to have a -50% heal/damage debuff in bubble

It's like that was there for a reason or something

[stoic spruce]

Hpal had reduced healing I think

Ret had reduced dmg amd healing

[wet crown]

Imagine if mage could burst you inside block

[jade hollow]

any written pvp guides for assa rogues?

[potent pivot]

Nothing very in depth

Can learn basics of how to do damage from wowhead or iceyveins

Other than that you gotta learn from playing or watch vids/streams etc

Like trimaz just made a guide that looks good from what I saw of it, Shadenox has some gameplay vids etc

[jade hollow]

Nice will check those out. Thanks! What a pity theres no "real" written guides - i feel like the icyveins/wowhead stuff is always super troll

[potent pivot]

Nah, it’s really not. When it comes to rotation stuff pve and pvp are very similar these days

The issue with making a written guide for in depth pvp stuff is it’d basically have to be done for free, every single season

The wowhead/IV guys get paid to write their articles

Obviously for things like builds/gear we can just use sites like murlok.io now as well

[outer sky]

This was probably the most fun lobby I've ever played. Every single round ended the exact same way. Somebody trinketed something stupid and died in my smoke bomb. Less than 6 minutes for the entire lobby lol.

The monk even commented around game 5 "surely they wont let that happen for the 5th time, right?"

[jade hollow]

Totally fair. I am a pres main, and we have like 3 written pvp guides for this season 😃

[dark moon]

Fb kb build?

[outer sky]

Ya

[dark moon]

What mmr is this? I had bit of trouble playing that build on 2.3-4

[spring bough]

I’m officially a BM main till outlaw rework

[gleaming sentinel]

You said that about DH

[spring bough]

Yeah that was until I did more dmg on the BM in keys and solo shuffle 😂

[gleaming sentinel]

lol

I am def tempted to just play a class that does well in shuffle and blitz so I don’t wanna rip my hair out. Maybe I return to dev evoker

[spring bough]

BM is 2300 solo in like 21 lobbies. 1700 in blitz in under 10 games lol

It’s amazing sitting in a blitz and not dying and doing insane numbers

[stoic spruce]

See you in midnight

[spring bough]

What’s the alpha scoop

[stoic spruce]

Cookies and cream

[spring bough]

Sounds about right

[glass hazel]

we need rogue rework again all talents so boring

hopefully we will get proper dev for midnight -_- like other classes

rogue least played class so far from old ones

[waxen meteor]

AND you can kick people out of cliff

I just did my first rated game in bm in blitz yesterday haha

[spring bough]

Oh wait why am I playing scatter 😂

Bout to knock some MFs off cliffs

[waxen meteor]

my gear is probably tooooooo green to play in solo arena yet

but will do it this week after i gear up a bit

[spring bough]

Just kite and trap and slow and your chillin

[waxen meteor]

yeah i played hunter in DF S2 & S3

I am just tired of my orc look

[spring bough]

I went dark iron dwarf

[waxen meteor]

pet 5% dmg is bigger

and dwarf doesn't look any better haha

[spring bough]

Orc racial is 1% pet damage now lol

[waxen meteor]

what????

[spring bough]

It’s been 1% for years

[waxen meteor]

[spring bough]

Not even worth it tbh lol

[waxen meteor]

damn i am a boomer now

[spring bough]

I get my mini lust dark iron passive

Clears diseases n such and gives big agility on a burst go

[waxen meteor]

I will probably swap to a better look

[spring bough]

Triggers 30 seconds on PvP trinket tho 😭

[waxen meteor]

I am tired of my orc femal look on hunter

it looks so bad on any mog

it works fairly well on lots of warlock mog though

I am changing it tonight

[spring bough]

Praying I got a mythic track bow in my vault. Then spamming keys this week on it lol

And I just need 100 rating for elite in solo too. BM been fun

[jaunty mirage]

Nice man, the lowest number of paladins I had in a lobby last night was 2

[jolly sierra]

say that to tauren Female lol

[spring bough]

U know what I still can’t compute. How worgen rock a full mog set. But dragons can’t?

[jolly sierra]

"can you dress a dog irl?
can you dress a lizard irl?"

make yourself those two questions

[spring bough]

Yes and yes?

I googled it. You can put pants on a lizard

[jolly sierra]

fair

but anything else?

[spring bough]

A hat and a shirt

And glasses

[jolly sierra]

vs dogs with glasses, hats, pants, jackets, mittens

see?

its accurate to game

lizards have irl xmog restrictions like wow ones

[spring bough]

This lizards pretty decked

[jolly sierra]

outlaw main

[spring bough]

I wish drac double jump was like DH

Cause I’d be playing that on rogue and hunt if that was the case

[jolly sierra]

isnt like that?

[glass hazel]

cute

[waxen meteor]

it's hard to look good in any outfit, if your body is bigger than the clothes

[glass hazel]

imaging making a glyph like if you have legendary from dd you can double jump like dh with wings

=_=

[fluid trench]

Just gonna slide this in here

Names blocked out but man the cope needs to cease, it’s rets like this that make me embarrassed to be a ret

[spring bough]

It needs more of the glide effect that DH has

[languid ravine]

what if he's right

[fluid trench]

You’re a holy warrior gotta fight the inner demons to beat the outer ones

[spring bough]

That’s from pally discord fk them

Bro is dog and thinks other classes need to be nerfed cause FOTM player can’t cast bubbles lmao

Lock casting 5mil bolts maybe interrupt one pally hmmm

[fluid trench]

3 rets and a lock goes 5-1 sounds like a skill issue to me

[gleaming sentinel]

Triple ret lobby rofl

[spring bough]

Lock said hold up ima walk this ret like the dog that he is

[gleaming sentinel]

It’s really crazy they haven’t tuned that dumb ass class

[fluid trench]

Hell one ret and a lock going 5-1 is a skill issue

[fluid trench]

How do you think I feel I main it and it’s annoying

[gleaming sentinel]

One of the simplest rotations in the game, more utility than any class. Is actually ranged

Idk bro so cooked

[fluid trench]

I may be a moron but at least I’m not delusional

The only thing I fear when I queue is my router

[spring bough]

Blizz removes all melee extensions blizz makes all pally abilities 20 yards minimum

😭

[gleaming sentinel]

Just wait til they turn outlaw into “gun slinger” mid ranged melee

[spring bough]

Oh it’s happening

I already heard a rumor of that from a credible source. We gonna be devourer range on outlaw

[gleaming sentinel]

No shot really?

[spring bough]

I’m hoping not cause it sounds like it would piss a lot of people off lol

[gleaming sentinel]

I’ve never seen anyone even ask for that, wonder why that’s a rumor

[waxen meteor]

@spring bough if you do the 7 seconds buff shot on a different target, does it redirect the pets too?

for example, pets chasing a mage behind the pillar, you can't shoot the 7 seconds buff shot on mage, but ret is near you, if you do that to ret, will it direct the pets from mage?

[spring bough]

Depends on the macros you have setup. I have /petattack on everything so if I swap target it will swap the pets too

Probably wanna have /petattack and pet abilities on every ability macro like barbed, cobra, kill command

[spring bough]

I had a mage run behind a pillar last night. Couldn’t get a shot on him but kept the pets attacking. Bro was 3% and pets finished him off lol

Ravenous leap went off for 2mil and mage was LOS from me

[glass hazel]

do pets still target rogues in stealth?

[spring bough]

Idt that happens anymore

[glass hazel]

since you are pro hunter now ;x quick question what gives freedom on hunter except leap?

[waxen meteor]

pet

[spring bough]

Masters call

[waxen meteor]

Master call for certain pet gives you freedom

[spring bough]

Pvp talent lets masters call aoe to teammates too

[glass hazel]

tch thats why

[waxen meteor]

with a CD less than Pally

[spring bough]

It’s like 23 second CD with pvp talent

[waxen meteor]

You can rescue healer easily from boomi root+silence

[spring bough]

And it’s off global. So I put it on my kill command macro and I don’t even press it

[glass hazel]

less than shiv nice nice

[spring bough]

I just let it passively go 😂

[waxen meteor]

I guess we don't use shiv to slow anymore

in most cases

[glass hazel]

depends sometimes you need to slow that post lover otherwise you never connect lol

[spring bough]

I been using a devilsaur Thok since he looks cool and I can make him a masters call pet now

Have two of them cause it looks cool next to the dwarf lol

[waxen meteor]

Mine

[spring bough]

Elegon another favorite of mine. Any pet that’s big and looks cool lol

[waxen meteor]

I like this too yeah

Elegon is easy to catch

[spring bough]

I was huge on Reban. I have an entire fleet of him. But so many rets playing undead pet sucks now

[waxen meteor]

yeah

undead pet is bad

even without ret, I rarely see mage sheep the pet anymore..

[glass hazel]

df one also cute

rare cat

the one you trace by foot prints

[spring bough]

I wish they still had diff attack speeds. That would make it fun tryna tame the best of the best in the open world

[gleaming sentinel]

Hunter chat….

[spring bough]

That’s how bad it feels to play outlaw in solo mannnnn

Can blizz just acknowledge rogue even exists on their dev board

[sharp sierra]

I see Hunter I press fan then I press tempest

I get most damage but still lose but it’s okay because then I can flame the other dps for doing less damage than a rogue 👍🏽

[glass hazel]

so true jeez

hahaha

[gleaming sentinel]

Woops you didn’t pre feint hoj and healer doesn’t dispel you are dead

[outer sky]

That's just disgusting

[waxen meteor]

real story

Demo lock and BM makes us top dps on the board

although we are dead from BM dmg and cannot do anything against it

I feel I am consistently dying from like the 20th second against BM

[severe helm]

damage to nothing though lol

why does that matter

[waxen meteor]

It doesn't

It just made Rune's comment real

[glass hazel]

it is nice to see big numbers

[spring bough]

Cause meters domination looks good 😂

[severe helm]

into a pet class though?

I feel like people know the difference haha

[outer sky]

its not all pad

having tempest up on the pets makes it tick harder on the actual players youre trying to kill

plus you can get full stacks of Scent of Blood

which makes everything do more damage

[potent pivot]

scent of blood and CT

[potent pivot]

this is actually huge, and a lot of people don't realize

[jaunty mirage]

5 games total, 3 games had two rets and a hpal. One game had 2 hpals and one game had 2 rets

[spring bough]

For outlaw def all pad. Sounds like sin gets some use from it lol

[jaunty mirage]

Had one night a week or two ago where my first lobby of the night was 2x ret and 2x hpal and I just decided to log off after that

[spring bough]

Can blizz ban pallys that go 1-5 or 0-6

[jaunty mirage]

Any time I see a ret that isn’t blowing me away on damage I just assume he’s playing with his feet

[waxen meteor]

Play Mage

[jaunty mirage]

I’ve never had the urge to play mage

[spring bough]

I would def go 0-6 every lobby as mage

[jaunty mirage]

Been playing since vanilla and I’ve never felt like playing mage or druid at any point

[spring bough]

I got into feral heavy in vanilla after watching a pvp pump up video

This dude was just decimating people and the playlist was 🔥

[jaunty mirage]

Classic hahaha

I played lock after watching a drakedog video

[spring bough]

It was that video and Grim rogue. Played my ass off after watching his videos

[outer sky]

The spec that looks fun to me that I havent tried is Frost DK. Their burst is just stupid

Like if you make 1 mistake vs frost/WW or Frost/dev youre just dead

[spring bough]

https://youtu.be/VX7RuUcd-3Q?si=wbyFwkBVpdELYqmO

This the most hype video of all time when I was playing rogue back in vanilla

[severe helm]

world of roguecraft is the best wow cinema ever made

[spring bough]

Those were cool too. I just always vibed with a good playlist and people getting dropped in those grim clips

[sharp sierra]

I don’t think it’s that bad outside of windows but unholy just feels too good so I never really give frost too much time

You guys play at higher ratings

So maybe different story for y’all

[jaunty mirage]

UH is still better at higher ratings generally

[outer sky]

Yeah UDK is "better" but frost just has so much burst

[jaunty mirage]

Yeah it’s largely just personal preference

I’ve never really felt like playing frost but probably because I only play dk for the UH style anyway

[wet crown]

You cpuld die on the keyboard and do threatening damage on ret

Meanwhile they basically don't have to do anything to survive yours

[outer sky]

easier for them to die IRL than in the game tbh

[jolly sierra]

there are two kind of rets

the selfish fuck which only uses all stuff on themselves ignoroing the team

and the ones which uses everything and also slaps the details meter

those ones are the rarest ones

[wet crown]

I can't even kill a mediocre ret 1v1 no matter how hard I outplay.

I can't even imagine how I'd deal with a ret that knows to hoj healer and knows how to use searing

Shits so broken it disarms bleeds

How does that even work!?

[spring bough]

99.99% of Rets

[severe helm]

Wait wdym

[spring bough]

0.01% of Rets

[outer sky]

I'm tempted to make a ret but I know as soon as I get comfortable on it it'll get nerfed

[spring bough]

Just go BM they are never bad 😂

[severe helm]

It would take you 5 minutes to get comfortable

[severe helm]

Nah BM is more often bad than ret

Also BM is def harder than ret too

And that's saying a lot

People should really try ret

It'll blow your mind

How easy that spec is

[spring bough]

Idk BM seems pretty ez for the week I’ve done solo shuffle on it lol

[severe helm]

It can be but you're doing 1000 times more than a ret

[spring bough]

Throw two CCs every one in a while. Run away whole game. And some enemy is dying lol

I’m gonna play BM with the knock back today on blitz and see how that goes

[outer sky]

What would take me a while is looking for when I need to use shit like freedom or sac or whatever on somebody else. I dont look for that kinda stuff because I don't play a class that has anything to even use on other people

[severe helm]

Sac on the kill targwt that's it

Freedom can b p much used on yourself exclusively unless you're facing a boomkin

But also that's the thing with ret

It's so rotationally simple that your awareness can be 100/10

[jolly sierra]

ret is extremely easy

you basically think like this

"i support"
"i hit"

for example if you watch your comp being bursted use sac

to trade cds

most of time use spellwarden instead bop

sanctuary stuns on healer

or silences

use freedom on your comp so you get buffed too

lay on hands bypass dampening or reductions so you can use it on psyfiend

[wet crown]

Getting hit by searing, I could see my bleeds showing "miss"

[outer sky]

Yeah that happens

I think what pissed me off the most is

Not just how broken ret is

But how long its taking blizzard to nerf it

Complied with how fast they nerfed us

[stoic spruce]

The bleed forgot to bleed

He's shy

[molten hedge]

wait wasnt deaths arrival making shadowstep 40 secs? coulda sworn it wasnt 35

or am i fried maybe

[gleaming sentinel]

0-6 in a double ret sp lobby, i cant play outlaw man. idk i suck

[spring bough]

got my 720 wep crafted for my BM time to wreck keys in between solo shuffle lol

[stoic spruce]

You gotta play with a super strong teammate, otherwise you play into ultra damp

[gleaming sentinel]

ye im just a solo q player, maybe i just dont ahve the chops for tthis spec

[stoic spruce]

You do in 3s dw

Outlaw is such a shit solo spec

3s is so much easier and fun

[wet crown]

I mean it's the most blatant case of class favoritism I can recall.

I don't even think Ghostcrawler's tenure with frost mages compared.

[outer sky]

Ok fuck it. I caved. Can't beat 'em, join 'em, I guess. Oh well. I can't believe how few keybinds I have wtf

[stoic spruce]

I think it's fine to have super easy specs like ret and bm

But

Do they have to be super oppressive all the time?

[jaunty mirage]

I mean mages are at minimum the best class pvp has ever seen, but they are also usually very good in pve too

They fly SO far under the radar

[outer sky]

You have to have something that vaguely resembles a brain to play a mage optimally though

[jaunty mirage]

Largely because locks and rogues are the two most hated classes

I mean yeah but we’re just talking about favoritism

[outer sky]

Im beating on a training dummy rn and this spec doesn't even have a rotation.

[jaunty mirage]

And mages have been one of the best arena specs in the vast majority of arena seasons for the runtime of the game

[outer sky]

You just spam judgement until you have enough holy power to press verdict

Use toll and wake on CD

Amd hammer of light when it procs for you

[jaunty mirage]

Tbf blaster master mages was like 3 buttons as well

[outer sky]

Mewo was right, you can learn it in 5 minutes

[spring bough]

are u elite ret yet

[outer sky]

Yeah i actually just got glad

[spring bough]

just beat a team of 2 rets and a holy pally

with BM spriest resto druid lolol

[fluid trench]

Another sample from the ret discord

[jolly sierra]

spotted the 1k6 ret

[jaunty mirage]

Wonder if this is the ret that went 0-6 in my lobby the other night cause he would trinket AND bubble the first kidney of every round and then die in a bomb about a minute later

[outer sky]

It is kind of annoying though as ret that 100% of your CC is dispellable

[vocal surge]

Doing 1200 stairs cause why not?

[slate ingot]

hello just started pvping how much difference do conquest trinkets make than the honor ones (started pvping for the mog)

[potent pivot]

dps trinket is a pretty big difference

medallion is sorta w/e, usually your last upgrade

[slate ingot]

is insignia better on sin than badge

which one should i get

[potent pivot]

depends on the build you play

[slate ingot]

fatebound

[potent pivot]

badge

[slate ingot]

and for the set bonus i just put the two items that pushes them to 723, already had myth shoulders and chest

[potent pivot]

shoulders have the worst stats

[potent pivot]

should check murlok to see what most people sue

use*

[slate ingot]

even if i lose the 4 set bonus

[potent pivot]

yes

[slate ingot]

the pants are just conquest ones without bonus

damn

[potent pivot]

fatebound doesn't need 4 set

[slate ingot]

okok ty for the info

[outer sky]

is the CDR really so bad that its not worth running 4 set

[potent pivot]

its not even that its bad per se

if you're running badge it desyncs so you end up badging a few second in or holding for badge

so its just w/e if you run 4 or not

[grizzled basin]

why has badge become so much preferable vs insignia this season ? KB sync b/c of set bonus with FB ?

[outer sky]

because our class has been reduced to a cheesy one shot playstyle so all that matters is 1 or 2 globals

may as well play badge to buff those globals

hey guys

guess what I just learned

ya know how Hpriests have that talent they never play where when they die they turn into an angel

and rez

well if you kill the other guy after they rez

you dont have to kill the priest again

he auto loses

[potent pivot]

if you play FB you use badge, if you play deathstalker you still play insignia

[languid ravine]

you telling me people lose when they lose?

[outer sky]

The game ends even though someone on both teams is still alive

[languid ravine]

I dont understand :d

[stoic spruce]

This?

[outer sky]

No

[stoic spruce]

Are you sure it's hpriest? Disc priest has a talent similar they don't use that when they die, if they heal enough, the get resurrected

So you can stop doing damage and the priest won't heal enough to survive

[outer sky]

It's this

You dont see it in PVP very often because it prevents you from playing the on demand angel form pvp talent

Which is trolling not to take

But if the hpriest does play this shit

You kill them, they get angel form, then they revive

You dont have to kill them again

Theyre alive playing the game but theyre counted as dead on the score board

So if you kill their teammate the game just ends even if the priest is still alive

[stoic spruce]

The game ends if you kill their teammate regardless

[outer sky]

Nope

2s and 3s dont work like shuffle where the game ends if someone dies

The remaining team members can keep try Harding if they want to

[stoic spruce]

Did you specify 2s or 3s?

Idr

[outer sky]

Well I said "the other guy" which implied 2s since it was singular

[stoic spruce]

I'm in a semantics mood

"The other guy" could mean the kill target