that isn't how that works bro
#pvp
spring bough
this mage did that bullshit where 100% of my interrupts on him caused precog and i know i had some ones that went off when he was full cast
after first round didnt interrupt taht mage once
keen canopy
alright i just hit an 11 million non crit arcane barrage this is revolting
potent pivot
@pliant lintel @sharp sierra dagger offhand has nothing to do with energy on outlaw, has been a common misconception lately. energy from auto attacks is normalized and the same regardless of weapon type.
spring bough
blizz should add a "report for not using class utility" in shuffle stfg.... every poly was a full one not 1 dispell
grave pier
@potent pivot would appreciate if u could give me light and tell me wtf to do
potent pivot
<@629463378250956810> would appreciate if u could give me light and tell me wtf ...
yeah i'll take a look when i can
grave pier
it's just 1m clip of my last duel of the day
potent pivot
i equipped them...
equipped what
potent pivot
it's just 1m clip of my last duel of the day
kk
digital zodiac
potent pivot
the dagger lol
its all good, its the same as a 1h
digital zodiac
if you swap specs often its better too
potent pivot
i just don't like to see misinformation about things that impact people's decisions @pliant lintel 
sharp sierra
I gotta stop swapping lowkey im gonna stick with outlaw and play other classes instead of swapping specs
geared all the broken stuff and yet im back on my rogue lol
digital zodiac
i have the same approach but with sub 
potent pivot
i always start seasons as assa/sub because gear is practically the same
pliant lintel
i just don't like to see misinformation about things that impact people's decisi...
All good fam, everyday is a school day
Does this still apply if you don’t have 100% up time on your target though IE I’m not smacking a target dummy to death?
potent pivot
and i'll just play assa with badge for a few weeks
2nd rogue for outlaw etc usually
digital zodiac
might do that and try outlaw out ngl
potent pivot
All good fam, everyday is a school day
Does this still apply if you don’t have ...
yeah it should be completely normalized
sharp sierra
well i also got my gf to try pvp so now i have a reason to stick rogue xD
digital zodiac
last time i played it was on DF
potent pivot
the only thing that a dagger offhand does it get very slightly faster poison procs which is w/e
sharp sierra
the only thing that a dagger offhand does it get very slightly faster poison pro...
so dagger is better in grand scheme?
jaunty osprey
potent pivot
so dagger is better in grand scheme?
if you want to get technical. but its like 0.1%, if that. it doesn't matter whatsoever
jaunty osprey
very cheese, but seems very fun
pliant lintel
‘1800’ mmr
spring bough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul87zIzZN-M
wtf is this bullshit
digital zodiac
looks VERY shutdownable but nobody doing shit on the clips 💀
potent pivot
yea its just funny
spring bough
oh wait hes playing without double vanish LMFAO
that may actually work lol
no subterfuge tho
idek
potent pivot
oh wait hes playing without double vanish LMFAO
he swaps supercharger to vanish
in the talent section
spring bough
he isnt even playing HO he just doing a borked build that me and Verm came up with on the PTR lol
potent pivot
charger "max burst" vanish "regular" 
severe helm
<@151872253229924352> <:KEKL:938540034276065370>
Lol wat
Wait cold blood affects PS?
potent pivot
huh
spring bough
Wait cold blood affects PS?
no he just prob using it for the extra coin flips from dispatch
acoustic junco
You don't even want supercharger for killing spree.
severe helm
Yeah I was wondering how GS and cold blood work together
Supercharger is bugged for KS
It doesnt get the full sc value
potent pivot
no he just prob using it for the extra coin flips from dispatch
he's not
he's not running inevitable end lol
looks like he just used it on a finisher after KS
lol
severe helm
Too bad KS does nothing if there's any other units nearby haha
spring bough
idek why he would run CB then lol
severe helm
But what I'm wondering is if anyone has tested the fatebound coin bug in pvp
potent pivot
Too bad KS does nothing if there's any other units nearby haha
watch the first 2v2 clip
severe helm
Cuz you can proc 7 coins in the opener
potent pivot
he killed someone with a target right next to them
spring bough
But what I'm wondering is if anyone has tested the fatebound coin bug in pvp
nah losing that first crack window Fk that
potent pivot
But what I'm wondering is if anyone has tested the fatebound coin bug in pvp
with the macro?
acoustic junco
It's better to go fatebound cold blood for memes
potent pivot
yeh
severe helm
with the macro?
Yeye
potent pivot
yes
severe helm
nah losing that first crack window Fk that
You don't lose it
potent pivot
macro goodge
spring bough
everytime i used that macro in pvp it killed my crack window
severe helm
Thats a bug with stealth bar
Bind ambush off your stealth bar and it should work
Or play KiR
Haha
spring bough
i do play KIR
im saying everytime i used the macro
second i hit BTE it was on CD
0 crack window
spring bough
it didnt matter how i opened it would always put it on CD for me but i only tried that first day of the season
after i got the 2 set
severe helm
Tbh I haven't tested it yet much this season but yeah I had that same bug last season
Oh what
Weird
That shouldn't happen idk
spring bough
yeah idk i took the cancel aura off my macro after the first day. maybe ill go back n try it out again
severe helm
It's big dam I bet if you add it back
Also you can use it in the match too
If you have adr and GS ready
spring bough
yeah gonna go try it after im outta my DH's solo
severe helm
You can kidney vanish then huge 7 coin dump
Big blast
@potent pivot have you tried out these new outlaw things yet this season?
Gsw could be pretty insane
potent pivot
<@629463378250956810> have you tried out these new outlaw things yet this season...
a little
mostly just tested maximizing coin damage and shit like cold blood/inevitable end vs regular build
and a lil trickster
i think trill may have been testing gsw
not sure
spring bough
gsw will do minimum 1milly hits or crits lol
hell even pistol without GSW and with HH is hitting for a milly plus on a FTH
potent pivot
but basically nothing has changed in the grand scheme of things
everyone is still playing the regular HO build
spring bough
yall should play KIR its more fun
jaunty osprey
all the outlaw rogues on EU are just playing with arcane
acoustic junco
It hits for like 1.5-1.7 mil crit with gsw
jaunty osprey
none of what the outlaw does, matters
spring bough
im the only outlaw on murlok playing KIR sad days
acoustic junco
I'm the only non night elf rogue because someone gave in
spring bough
just re tested the cancel aura for stealth macro with ADR GS and it doesnt break my crack window anymore bout to be GG
we about to cook some kiddies in solo shuffle boys
spring bough
all the outlaw rogues on EU are just playing with arcane
EU CC bots for life lol
severe helm
everyone is still playing the regular HO build
Booooooring
potent pivot
Booooooring
yeh
the only spec thats really had any new builds pop up for a while now is assa really
spring bough
Serious yall should KIR more in PvP its fun asf and is even better than HO
gleaming pawn
For Midnight, Blizz needs to nerf bleeds into the ground for PvP and buffs Envenom, Energy Regen, and Kingsbane. I’m going to crash out if AoE rot bleeds trash is best for another fucking expansion
small temple
FNG here. GSW? KIR? HO?
spring bough
Went back to HO
Ew
digital zodiac
all these outlaw abbreviations got me geekin
pliant lintel
It’s boring but consistent
gleaming sentinel
Serious yall should KIR more in PvP its fun asf and is even better than HO
I hate kir ngl
spring bough
idk feels amazing hitting that KIR on 5 or 6 buffs and rolling into more lol
potent pivot
FNG here. GSW? KIR? HO?
?
potent pivot
not that long
digital zodiac
couple hours ago
digital zodiac
do yall hated the kyrian minigame?
small temple
?
Just trying to understand what the acronyms are. Can't find references to them and I've been away from the game for a while.
pliant lintel
Bottom row outlaw talents basically
potent pivot
Just trying to understand what the acronyms are. Can't find references to them a...
there's an acronym key in the #outlaw-faq
spring bough
Booooooring
so with the cancel aura i can still send BTE but w/e reason cheap shot cant cast lol
digital zodiac
pliant lintel
Good luck
digital zodiac
cursed ass late night queues
acoustic junco
You probably don't have cheapshot on a good stance for the cast
outer sky
Ok I did everything right. I got a coin, vanished before the pop, had full bleeds up, sent the rotation, and it still didnt do the big burst damage. What did I do wrong this time? I even deathmarked
spring bough
this pally on my team cast 0 bubbles
stoic spruce
I swapped back to HO and just took the L
digital zodiac
this mf jsut did almost my entire health bar in dmg by just standing nearby
spring bough
Ok I did everything right. I got a coin, vanished before the pop, had full bleed...
ur coins broken idk
digital zodiac
Ok I did everything right. I got a coin, vanished before the pop, had full bleed...
you did the same mistake as last time 😭
spring bough
overall on 6 rounds i just had lucky coin up for 58.7% even with the macro lol
outer sky
you did the same mistake as last time 😭
?????
digital zodiac
you vanish into not spending double jeopardy when u already had an empowered garrote running
outer sky
so i shouldnt have vanished?
digital zodiac
litearlly try: garrote -> ambush -> rupture -> cheapshot -> shiv -> deathmark -> kingsbane -> coldblood/envenom
outer sky
ok
pliant lintel
You also didn’t shiv
digital zodiac
cheapshot goes as soon as garrote silence ends and it gives u enough cp with the kb and shiv to get a envenom right away
potent pivot
Ok I did everything right. I got a coin, vanished before the pop, had full bleed...
was better,but you can envenom a 2nd time at the end
outer sky
You also didn’t shiv
i did shiv
pliant lintel
In video you have 2 charges no?
potent pivot
he shived after he reopened
pliant lintel
Ahh I see it now
outer sky
and this doesnt work without DM right?
also do I have to ambush?
can i double garrote instead for pandemic?
digital zodiac
ye
spring bough
yeah this cancel aura getting lucky coin 50% uptime a lobby
digital zodiac
i just ambush cuz i run the improved ambush
spring bough
missed it one round and had 0% lucky coin uptime lol
digital zodiac
with blindside
outer sky
is this it???
digital zodiac
ye you see, evaporated
outer sky
ok so when I'm in a game
what do I need to look for
that tells me
"ok i can send it now"?
potent pivot
is this it???
digital zodiac
"ok i can send it now"?
"do i have kingsbane up?"
outer sky
"do i have kingsbane up?"
you need DM too right?
digital zodiac
thats literally it
outer sky
well no thats not literally it because every time Ive posted a clip of me failing to do it I also had kingsbane up
theres something about the coins im not doing
digital zodiac
you need DM too right?
Kingsbane is 1 min and DM is 2min
you do 1 kingsbane raw inbetween DM
digital zodiac
theres something about the coins im not doing
in this clip you literally got up to the lucky coin
thats literally an indication of doing it right
outer sky
ok but how do I like track that
potent pivot
he got lucky coin in the first clip too
digital zodiac
and try to setup ur windows around it
potent pivot
or should have
digital zodiac
he got lucky coin in the first clip too
he took 3 business days to open
and in this clip he also killed the monk 
spring bough
"ok i can send it now"?
them fat stacks of coins poppin on ur WA lol
digital zodiac
in this clip you literally got up to the lucky coin
i worded this wrong, better -> he got to the lucky coin in a more effective matter and better yet... the enemy was cced the whole duration
spring bough
i find it funny the outlaw macro to guarantee the coin lets me BTE in a crack window but i cant cheap even tho subterfuge is up lolol
damn blizz and their weird bugs
severe helm
so with the cancel aura i can still send BTE but w/e reason cheap shot cant cast...
Oh weird are your btes still proccing dispatch?
spring bough
i dont know i didnt look just got a new game will check during
spring bough
Oh weird are your btes still proccing dispatch?
definitely still is. was proccing CTO buffs while hitting BTE during
pliant lintel
is it your stealth action bar? i had same issue
spring bough
is it your stealth action bar? i had same issue
nope. cheap is off my stealth bar
BTE is on my normal/stealth bar though so maybe if i put cheap on it it would work
pliant lintel
is it greyed out as in not in stealth?
spring bough
is it greyed out as in not in stealth?
it is. on both bars when i open with the cancel aura adrenaline macro from stealth
pliant lintel
Have you got some weird cheap shot macro that only cast it it stealth?
stoic spruce
A lot of mouseover stuff doesn't work anymore because of hunters
Specifically their traps
As well as some @ target
spring bough
its weird tho. i use the ADR GS cancel aura macro to open in world pvp and i can cheap and BTE crack, when i do it in rated i can BTE crack but cant cheap during that window
pliant lintel
maybe try ask the pve guys
spring bough
its all good just really need a kidney in that window lol
pliant lintel
yea but that's going to annoy you as soon as you need to cheap something while in that window and you can't haha
spring bough
works everywhere else but a rated game kinda wild
lacquer should give u the glad mog for the slot you put it on....
acoustic junco
what's your macro
spring bough
what's your macro
for?
acoustic junco
the cancelaura stealth
because it probably needs to be like this .
/cancelaura stealth
/cast adrenaline rush
/cast ghostly strike
/cast [stance:1] cheap shot
/cast [stance:2] cheap shot
/cast [stance:3] cheap shot
spring bough
ill try that for a cheap one and see what it does
dark kernel
I think im quitting WoW
this shit just isnt fun
Every game is FOTM so even with Outlaw feeling better its just not fun
molten hedge
acoustic junco
had to be done
dim oriole
He came here to press buttons and you got in the way of that
spring bough
Had a ret bubble a sap
yeah ive had people like this all night in solo lobbys wanna scream
stoic spruce
"How can I slam my face on my keyboard if I'm sapped?"
dim oriole
Lucky for him rogues only form of cc is sap
stoic spruce
Nah but if they remove uhuh from Outlaw in midnight, we'll be eating good due to the collateral effects it would have on the spec.
spring bough
just watched a DH pvp video by a R1 DH... bout to pretend im him and smash this solo lobby after watching that
pally isnt using sanc in solo.... wow
stoic spruce
People lose to them btw
spring bough
yeah well he just got smoked first 2 rounds on my team
and shaman just lit him up in chat "why u talented into hallowed ground wtf"
gleaming sentinel
Nah but if they remove uhuh from Outlaw in midnight, we'll be eating good due to...
stoic spruce
I don't smoke but I could use one of them rn
waxen meteor
Every game is FOTM so even with Outlaw feeling better its just not fun
Take a break with sin!
gleaming sentinel
I don't smoke but I could use one of them rn
Same same
takes a puff and starts coughing a lot
spring bough
I don't smoke but I could use one of them rn
if i smoked cigs id be up to a pack a day over rogue buffs
dark kernel
Take a break with sin!
if i fail at Sin its going to be worse
its the ret paladin of rogue specs
waxen meteor
If you need to take a break on ret spec of rogue 
Probably also good
It seems ret is already swapping to different build because of tier set
And it even works better
stoic spruce
Could also just play ret and be a mid range demon
dark kernel
I need to
Just I'm exhausted and don't have time
Going balls to the wall (as responsibly as a working class adult can) has made me kind of exhausted
Each season it's getting gear figuring out play style nuances and trying to push
Slow as molasses
grave basin
im fine with capping at 2.4k this season and never touching my main hunter again
it feels bad that SV is meta and theyre everywhere
then i go on assa and it's paladins with bops everywhere
then i go on my ww and every game looks like this
it's so exhausting lol
just gotta roll with the S++++++++++ specs from now on
spring bough
the face of a man in pain
languid ravine
Holy Windwalker looking worse than Outlaw, based on that screen anyways
potent pivot
its the ret paladin of rogue specs
languid ravine
its the ret paladin of rogue specs
they hate him because he spoke the truth
mods get him outta here
spring bough
DH such a crazy good FC
sharp sierra
Each season it's getting gear figuring out play style nuances and trying to push
Crates have made this so much easier to deal with
Being able to max caps on all pvp currency’s in 3 hours is insane
I’m pissed I never did this before I always yolod random BGs lol
keen canopy
idk ww kinda does crazy damage
grave basin
During your conduit window sure
Outside of that of if you're playing span the damage isn't Impressive at all
Is that why there's only 3 monks on Na above 2.4?
They all just blow or what
unique garnet
can we get 4set this week? since i don't have a void splitter to make the final 4 set 
marsh yacht
No 4 set if you’re coasting on the catalysts, but if you’ve got even one from vault you got it
unique garnet
ah dang 
no 4 set then yet
marsh yacht
I took one overlap mythic tier actually come to think of it, my bad
exotic dove
its the ret paladin of rogue specs
I personally don't see the similarities.
jolly sierra
average orc warr xmog be like
grave basin
Garrosh did nothing wrong
jolly sierra
indeed
gilded gulch
average orc warr xmog be like
"im creative"
digital zodiac
average orc warr xmog be like
Rau el sanguinario such a tuff name tho
sharp sierra
average orc warr xmog be like
Mmm now it needs two weapons that never match
grave basin
But I thought ww is really good
You're smoking some crack brother
Link me your monk
sharp sierra
lol
stoic spruce
Hard to have X amount of specs above 2400 when literally everyone is playing ret
Even the specs that are actually busted are being outshined by ret
There's just so many of them
It's every single lobby
dark moon
Any ww enjoyers? How does it feel in shuffle this season or in general in pvp?
stoic spruce
It's fine if you don't compare it to ret
dark moon
Couldn't care less about ret honestly
gleaming sentinel
Hard to have X amount of specs above 2400 when literally everyone is playing ret
Yea I kinda think 2100+ is a better representation currently. Maybe a fried take
For shuffle
sharp sierra
Any ww enjoyers? How does it feel in shuffle this season or in general in pvp?
When youre uptime is good it feels so good and fun to weave attacks and watch healthbars drop
the other 97% of the time is fucking horrendous
(exaggerating a bit)
spring bough
It's fine if you don't compare it to ret
DH doing just as much as ret im loving life
untold remnant
just gotta roll with the S++++++++++ specs from now on
Blizz finds a way to always put you up against your counter specs 🙂
spring bough
You know what I found it hard to play with as a DH? Playing with DKs…..
gleaming sentinel
Weird dh / dk is a good comp
dark kernel
Weird dh / dk is a good comp
It is with coordination
I'm sure Van is charging at the target, DK then grips, gotta charge back
Can waste a lot of mobility.
waxen meteor
You know what I found it hard to play with as a DH? Playing with DKs…..
I feel so too
I don't know why dh/dk is a good comp
I think it works well with good coodination, because DH can connect with caster like 100% up time
spring bough
Weird dh / dk is a good comp
Yeah not in solo. Lobby last night 2 DK. Frost and unholy. Arcane deleted them every single round I was with them
Couldn’t do shit to help them out
waxen meteor
That's classic DH expeirence in Solo
You Pingpingpangpang and do a lot of dmg, then your teammate just dies for no reason
spring bough
I’m over here range fearing, stunning and imprisoning the healer back to back and still couldn’t get it
Think I got the mage to 5% one round, blocked. He got out got away. Evo’d. Hit DK and bro was gone
waxen meteor
One thing I learned from playing DH alt for like 7 seasons is that most time you just zug
spring bough
Yeah I only aoe stun when all 3 are near or 2
waxen meteor
Well, you can aoe stun healer alone too
that aoe stun is 5 sec when hitting single target
spring bough
Yeah I’ve hit them with that before but I try to use imprison and fel eruption back to back on the healer
waxen meteor
I am basically using imprison mostly on dps now
unless it's a lobby without hpal/hunter/rogue/mage etc.
spring bough
Damn maybe I gotta change my CC game on the DH to effect wins
waxen meteor
I found in lower lobbies (2200-) most people just don't react to offensive CDs
I just force imprison it
Like when ele shammy got all CDs on, there were just countless warriors still trying to chase them
I just imprison ele....
Forcing those DPS teammates to change....
spring bough
Sounds like I’m gonna try that
waxen meteor
one down side of playing DH is you have less impact compared to rogue
up side is when you are mentally tired, this is really just zugzug and thinking about nothing else gaming
whoever fucked up whatever DR, you don't care
You zug
and most lobbies nobody even looks at you
spring bough
and most lobbies nobody even looks at you
I’ve noticed that. Even when I’m ripping my setup no one really stops me
Only a few people CC the hunt cause they smart lol
dark kernel
I feel like some classes eat less CC because their damage is more spread out
Like it's hard to CC ww during their damage, DH, fury
Ret Paladin and rogue and frost dk have more clear big gos
waxen meteor
Only a few people CC the hunt cause they smart lol
I do fake move on the hunt to bait for sth, but most times it ends up I am the dumb one
Just straight cast to anyway but SP
spring bough
Like it's hard to CC ww during their damage, DH, fury
Yeah mostly all my damage a DOT ticking for millys 😂
spring bough
I do fake move on the hunt to bait for sth, but most times it ends up I am the d...
Half the time I don’t even wind up I just cast it while brawling they don’t expect it
waxen meteor
Half the time I don’t even wind up I just cast it while brawling they don’t expe...
according to mvq, your first real global should be the hunt
waxen meteor
yeah me too
spring bough
But when the next comes up if I’m brawling I just send it while we all stacked instead of them seeing me do a 40 yard charge lol
waxen meteor
sometime pair it with reverse jump back (so jump forward with immune cc)
spring bough
Do you use the cast sequence reset macro with vengeful and felblade? It’s amazing
waxen meteor
tbh i am not sure how someone was able to reverse jump back from a mount
I don't use any macro with DH, but i can imagine 
spring bough
Just spam the same button jump back right into a felblade. Amazing lol
waxen meteor
that's exactly what i do haha
although i miss it sometimes
you have a fairly small time window to use felblade
spring bough
It’s like 5-10 seconds not too bad. I’ve only missed a few so far
waxen meteor
No I mean if you want to immediately charge back to target
While jumping back
If you land, you are normaly out of range of felblade...
so you sort of kite yourself...
spring bough
If you land, you are normaly out of range of felblade...
Yeah sometimes just a quick fel rush right into felblade if I miss it off the retreat
dark kernel
you cant play subt trickster?
Same exact talents pretty much
dense thorn
Same exact talents pretty much
as like raid?
dark kernel
as like raid?
Same for trickster or death stalker is what I mean
dense thorn
ok ty
for the transmog is one for rating and the other is just.. buying honor/conq gear?
verbal field
for the transmog is one for rating and the other is just.. buying honor/conq gea...
gladiator set is conquest gear, elite for 1800 rating
murlok isn loading for me, whats the most played build? ds or fb assa?
hollow carbon
murlok isn loading for me, whats the most played build? ds or fb assa?
Quite equal, depends on Shuffle Lobby or comp I would say
dense thorn
ret paladin is fun to play against
what is the one shot for subt, do we even have the damage to do that?
lofty vine
I wouldn't say sub has one shot potential, dmg feels a bit undertuned with the new added health pools. Just there to enable the mages lol
halcyon timber
We are tuned adequately, no need for “1 shot” nonsense buffs to get us tuned down. You deal expected reasonable damage as any rogue spec. People will and should peel or defend well.
pliant lintel
Nahh damage is low on sub the pvp trinket buffs hit hard
digital zodiac
We are tuned adequately, no need for “1 shot” nonsense buffs to get us tuned dow...
spring bough
We are tuned adequately, no need for “1 shot” nonsense buffs to get us tuned dow...
Wtb 33% back to fatebound so I can one shot in stuns again
halcyon timber
Alright before the jackass festival begins.
We are fine. No need to hit people for 40% hp. The ferris wheel of tom foolery is warped.
digital zodiac
Alright before the jackass festival begins.
who are you fighting
halcyon timber
Stop bud
digital zodiac
sharp sierra
any other wa you guys use for outlaw besides a rtb tracker?
spring bough
any other wa you guys use for outlaw besides a rtb tracker?
LE has a good weak aura. I stopped using it though and just track adrenaline and bones pretty much
I’m still a hekili stan and have a weak aura that attaches to it lol
sharp sierra
I’m still a hekili stan and have a weak aura that attaches to it lol
lmao yeah i started using on my many alts and actually comes in clutch every now and then lol
dark kernel
Hekili works pretty well for maximizing outlaw DPS it just makes you do some wonky shit sometime
spring bough
All my mods to it are adrenaline/vanish on the left of the hekili ability under it is RTB, energy and combo points. And that’s pretty much it
spring bough
Hekili works pretty well for maximizing outlaw DPS it just makes you do some won...
I don’t follow it all the time. But it helps on alts big time
gleaming sentinel
I don’t have any weak aura but rtb tracker
digital zodiac
blizzard mentioned something about doing something for that
gleaming sentinel
Hekili seems like cheating
spring bough
It’s pretty nice. It’ll anticipate coup and all that
digital zodiac
i hope they do that for deathstalker too
gleaming sentinel
Is it just a thing that tells you what to press?
spring bough
Is it just a thing that tells you what to press?
Yeah it’s a rotation addon
sharp sierra
Is it just a thing that tells you what to press?
next best logical choice
spring bough
It’s pretty on point for outlaw but I do make changes to my rotation
sharp sierra
yeah im on a terrible loss streak compared to sin lol but all good im lowkey having 10x more fun and the games i do win def feel impactful
gleaming sentinel
And that isn’t overwhelming? I’ve tried so many addon packs and stuff and I can’t handle it all. I have bigdebuffs and gladius that’s it
sharp sierra
i recently killed a lot of my addons
mainly just use glad and BBP
or plater when i do pve stuff
only thing i truly want is an app that syncs with que timers lol
dark kernel
And that isn’t overwhelming? I’ve tried so many addon packs and stuff and I can’...
It takes time to get used to. I used to use it in pve, and I stopped because I wanted to internalize my rotation
But once you get used to it it's not hard
spring bough
And that isn’t overwhelming? I’ve tried so many addon packs and stuff and I can’...
Hekili isn’t overwhelming at all. Just one icon or you can set it up to show the one icon plus the next 1-5 in the rotation. I show 3. It’s honestly really nice. So it’ll show Sinister, Coup even if coup isn’t proc’d and the second u hit sinister coup procs. So it tracks stuff like that
It can also highlight your buttons on your action bar and can put a circle around what button to press which is cool too
sharp sierra
great for teaching friends too
althugh the healing version is a bit iffy but works great for normal pve stuff
dark moon
Hekili isn’t overwhelming at all. Just one icon or you can set it up to show the...
Are you using it for pvp or pve?
spring bough
Are you using it for pvp or pve?
I use it for both
Also shows kicks in the rotation too if you enable it and it’s pretty spot on for interrupting heavy hitting abilities
dark moon
thats nice
dark moon
Also shows kicks in the rotation too if you enable it and it’s pretty spot on fo...
does it have an option to highlight spells rather than the extra bar?
if u know ofc
spring bough
does it have an option to highlight spells rather than the extra bar?
Yeah. You can turn the extra button off and it can just highlight your abilities on your action bar. You can do a circle or starburst or a couple others
dark moon
thanks
spring bough
I'm going to pretend to play WoW tonight
Just go DH and your life will change
Throw some warglaives and pretend u a tbc rogue
dark kernel
Just go DH and your life will change
Mines level 30
spring bough
Mines level 30
Timewalk LFG this week be 80 in an hour or so lol
waxen meteor
Just sharing my exp, I was a life long rogue since I started WoW like 20 years ago.
Dropped the game from Cata/Panda in a different region.
Restarted last season of shadowland in US, with new character as DH, I actually dropped the game again since DH was a bit boring..... (although I finished all Legion map quests, that seems to be a good storyline)
I think I actually restarted the game after I made the rogue again in DF... @dark kernel
dark kernel
Makes since. I came back in SL too
waxen meteor
DH back then was indeed boring as hell, it's a lot better after rework
spring bough
DH back then was indeed boring as hell, it's a lot better after rework
I played it when it came out in legion. Stopped playing DH in bfa after season 1 and came back SL to the rogue after classic ran its course
Running raids in classic and tbc turned my brain to mush. Need more solo Q modes 😂
waxen meteor
I think I farmed TBC for like 2 years straight lol
I felt one of the reasons I started rogue 20 years ago was charmed by Illidan
so when I restarted in SL, I saw DH, I was like wow, maybe this is what I wanted
feral inlet
How is PvP doing right now? I was thinking about coming back and poking around
tender tartan
How is PvP doing right now? I was thinking about coming back and poking around
how is your tolerance for 80% rets?
(this is only slightly an exaggeration)
feral inlet
Ya I heard it is really hunter and ret heavy since they are pretty strong lol
tender tartan
yeah, hunter ret and warrior are just bashing heads into 1 target and its awful lol
waxen meteor
Well for solo, some games are completely dominated by damage ...
For SS, I feel,
Ret/Boomi/Arcane Mage seems to be solid S
Warrior has some big dmg as well.
DK is probably overall at A+ range too
gleaming pawn
Just don’t play Rogue unless you really have to
digital zodiac
(this is only slightly an exaggeration)
is not
is 100% real
if you get a lobby that has not even a holy pally in it, you can make a wish
spring bough
if you get a lobby that has not even a holy pally in it, you can make a wish
Disc**
If you get a lobby without either go buy a mega millions ticket
digital zodiac
tender tartan
I've gotten into them, on my 800 rating rsham
My rsham seems to only play the mirror healer mu wise
digital zodiac
if you like it
fresh ermine
Just tryna win
gleaming pawn
If you want to play Rogue, each spec can win and do well enough
If you want to just win, there are a lot of better classes and specs to play
spring bough
I've gotten into them, on my 800 rating rsham
hmmmmm resto sham a ripe target lol
tender tartan
I personally think that playing sin rn is pain due to how many bops there are
but its still fun so do whatever makes you happiest
dark kernel
I personally think that playing sin rn is pain due to how many bops there are
It counters every rogue spec just the same
It's just super annoying when it's the empowered bleed, but you have more kill targets when you're playing assassination too
tender tartan
cant sub/outlaw swap to another person easier after popping a "cd"
dark kernel
I mean yeah kind of, but theoretically every single Target is bleeding out and you can only bop one
So just hit the other one
dark kernel
Yeah but death market does a literally no damage anyway
I throw that s*** on someone just to bait their cooldowns
tender tartan
Unfortunate truths i dont want to hear
spring bough
just dueld an arena master boomy and bro hit me with a 15mil starsurge LMAO
dark kernel
Yeah boomkins are not okay right now
spring bough
bro i thought i was good and then i was dead
dark kernel
Lots and lots of specializations are real strong
spring bough
he was like 30% too and i had way more health and then nothing lol
dark kernel
Yeah, I need to find a boomkin to donate me some CR
digital zodiac
rogue is fun until you play in double disarm lobby
gleaming sentinel
or frost mage or hpal
gleaming pawn
Rogue is fun until you play it 
digital zodiac
or a druid that is left free casintg
gleaming pawn
Ok no more shitposting today
digital zodiac
or an unnatended arcane mage that is acquinted with the current situation
spring bough
3milly sigil of spite on a mage is so funny
digital zodiac
or uncoordinated double rogue
spring bough
@waxen meteor do u play DH like a rogue in blitz
tender tartan
can confirm im winning big ez after rolling a ret but i feel like im just hitting shit on my keyboard without any thought whatsoever, miss how engaging rogue and prev season dh was
I just want the 2100 mogs tho so i'll pay the "bored out of my mind" tax
spring bough
love when a lock doesnt see healer at 15% with me on him..... just neededd 1 chaos bolt man lol
jolly sierra
how tf does works the 4set for fatebound assa?
wtf
i don't see anything different tbh
potent pivot
potent pivot
how tf does works the 4set for fatebound assa?
it makes the cooldowns shorter when you proc lucky coin
jolly sierra
how so? genuinely curious
its my 1st time w this
get off
i am chatting
...
trickz how does that works?
potent pivot
trickz how does that works?
its just bugged and can double proc at 1 time n shit
potent pivot
!mute @lost shard stop being weird
jolly sierra
tf is wrong w ppl today dude
potent pivot
idk
potent pivot
trickz how does that works?
so like
in 1 proc it can -20sec from DM instead of 10sec
its just weird
but you can get KB down to almost every 45sec on average
give or take, just from what i've seen of it so far
digital zodiac
stoic spruce
who cares about pikaboo
Me, I hope he's happy doing his thing 
potent pivot
it adds up in the long run and it desyncs enemy defensives from your pop
digital zodiac
everyone took the evil potion of hatred and rage
that guy lied too pika only rank 1 on sub not assas
spring bough
currently winning a blitz and our warlock is in chat arguing with himself that we arent standing in carts and that we suck and we are losing LOL
digital zodiac
that guy lied too pika only rank 1 on sub not assas <:antennaglorp:1410496077362...
me when i spread misinformation
stoic spruce
Trickz didn't even respond to my positivity
jolly sierra
that guy decided to act even worse in my DMs so he won't be back >_>
bruh
stoic spruce
I'm now swapping to evil spec
jolly sierra
that guy seems to just be a twitter user
stoic spruce
(Ret)
potent pivot
Trickz didn't even respond to my positivity
jolly sierra
tell him to touch some grass
potent pivot
he's been ragebaiting in the warlock discord all day it seems
i'm surprised they didn't ban him too
kinda obvious its just someone on a throw away acc, made a couple months ago
spring bough
Trickz didn't even respond to my positivity
happiness baiter
jolly sierra
he's been ragebaiting in the warlock discord all day it seems
i already screenshoted everything for later fun
XD
jolly sierra
he's been ragebaiting in the warlock discord all day it seems
moderation issues
potent pivot
did you see what i said about the 4p
potent pivot
once in a while lucky coin won't proc the 4p
but most of the time it works
multiple bugs
!mute @timber venture yeah no
jolly sierra
XD
potent pivot
!ban @timber venture ban evasion
marsh yacht
Must have a lot of free time
spring bough
Yeah Trickz don’t put up with that shit get him
spring bough
Pikadominates you bro that’s a new word add it to the dictionary
jolly sierra
live footage
spring bough
im on deepwind gorge blitz and some1 said the strat is to capture the flag....
spring bough
@jaunty osprey wya u need to R1
stoic spruce
Hop to soldier
jolly sierra
dethrone pikaboo
stoic spruce
Rangers lead the way!
stoic spruce
digital zodiac
why we getting pikaboo sponsorship deal agents out here
marsh yacht
Probably intended to reflect poorly on pika
tired crypt
raz is the goat
jolly sierra
did u watched the chat?
marsh yacht
Thought calvish was goat
stoic spruce
Who's this dude?
jolly sierra
calvo means bald in spanish
potent pivot
Who's this dude?
Idk he’s been going nutty in the lock discord
stoic spruce
I mean hindenburg fella
tired crypt
got slightly dissapointed when i learned Raz's real name isnt Ras or rasmus
stoic spruce
He just showed up at a rather sus time
jolly sierra
Idk he’s been going nutty in the lock discord
is he saying u have a romance with a furry panda girl?
potent pivot
I think stealthi already banned his 3rd account
jolly sierra
got slightly dissapointed when i learned Raz's real name isnt Ras or rasmus
i had a friend which was called like that
in spain
and he
ye
he was called "Ras" as nickname
tired crypt
his name is not close
digital zodiac
the sun god himself
spring bough
im here for the entertainment
tired crypt
jolly sierra
how is it?
tired crypt
sebastian
jolly sierra
ah
tired crypt
iirc
marsh yacht
So calvish would imply he’s kinda bald
spring bough
man whys the price of these bloodstones up to 5k a pop what is going on with the game economy lol
jolly sierra
dunno but stonks
tired crypt
I think stealthi already banned his 3rd account
have not, was waiting for him to get impatient and type something stupid again, to alleviate my boredom
potent pivot
Just rage baiting
jolly sierra
is that?
spring bough
He is Popo level blackout drunk or something
jolly sierra
LOL
spring bough
What the locks do lmao
tired crypt
im too fast
digital zodiac
man whys the price of these bloodstones up to 5k a pop what is going on with the...
my current economy depends on this overpriced scheme dont spoil it 🫡
spring bough
my current economy depends on this overpriced scheme dont spoil it 🫡
Send me some for free I need like 12 more 😭
stoic spruce
He is Popo level blackout drunk or something
I did pve as Outlaw drunk and idk if I fell asleep or I blacked out during bosses
digital zodiac
playing like a true pirate
spring bough
I did pve as Outlaw drunk and idk if I fell asleep or I blacked out during bosse...
Yeah I can’t drink and play or I talk too much in game chat 😂
\
i identify as DH now
stoic spruce
Yeah I can’t drink and play or I talk too much in game chat 😂
I looked up my name in the outlaw channel to make sure no one noticed and I read the funniest shit ever.
spring bough
im sure theres gold in that search bar
stoic spruce
Yeah
I had to block some people which is a shame because I really liked Ruby
Ignore, not block.
spring bough
why would a warrior train warrior in a war/ret combo.... mannnnnnnnn
stoic spruce
They're STOOPID
spring bough
next round the other war training war now too
and i killed ret with a huge hunt combo
stoic spruce
DH/ret/warr lobbies zzz
spring bough
DH/ret/warr lobbies zzz
that war took over 6mil damage in 0.2 seconds lol
then i had sigil of spite hit ret for 4.5mil next round lol
spring bough
DH a good FC in wsg having a fun time lol
grave basin
meanwhile dispatch for 600k
feral inlet
Maybe I’ll just wait for legion remix then lol
This season of pvp doesn’t seem fun reading more on it
grave basin
it's fun if youre ret or boomy
outer sky
meanwhile dispatch for 600k
i did a 2s match the other day vs outlaw/MW and the MW did considerably more damage than the outlaw. and it was like a 2m game too
idk how blizzard thinks thats fair
grave basin
Mw in 2s is just insane though
outer sky
Mw in 2s is just insane though
its still a healer
grave basin
But yea outlaw needs damage but blizzard will never give it SL levels of damage again
Or it will just dominate everything
outer sky
"insane" healer damage still shouldnt be more than half of any DPS' damage and certainly not more damage overall
grave basin
I quit in early SL cause sub rogue was just the stun bitch for the fire mage overlords
You yourself was just a fly on the wall
Idk I really hate that playstyle
outer sky
I quit in early SL cause sub rogue was just the stun bitch for the fire mage ove...
i also quit in early SL but it was because of ret pally Word of Glory
grave basin
Yea I too got KUAKed
outer sky
to this day that was the most busted thing ive ever seen in WoW history
its the only thing that i ever thought was so out of whack that i quit over it
grave basin
I also quit because of rets back then
Lol
That's 2x I quit cause of rets
Fuck em
grave basin
i also quit in early SL but it was because of ret pally Word of Glory
You're forgetting divine toll one shotting whole 3s teams
outer sky
You're forgetting divine toll one shotting whole 3s teams
i can deal with damage
grave basin
If they rng proc 3 tolls
outer sky
it drives me crazy when i cant kill anything though
grave basin
grave basin
i can deal with damage
Not when it one shots whole rbg teams
stoic spruce
But yea outlaw needs damage but blizzard will never give it SL levels of damage ...
Frankly it wasn't the damage, it was the fact outlaw had no counter yet countered everything
Except surv
Was neck and neck vs surv
grave basin
Shh don't mention surv
stoic spruce
SURVIVAL RAHHHH
grave basin
Outlaw definitely had damage
stoic spruce
Yeah for sure
grave basin
And they had resonator
grave basin
Pre float nerfs
Pre everything nerfs
Evasion for fun cause it's gonna be up in the next 10 seconds
stoic spruce
I didn't even stealth when gates opened
I had that pirate ship mount and I intend on using it
marsh yacht
to this day that was the most busted thing ive ever seen in WoW history
Dks in general on release
stoic spruce
Idk
Retpocalypse was pretty close
Like
Veryyyyy close
They've never pushed pvp hot fixes so fast
marsh yacht
I was a mage/shaman at the time so I’m probably biased
jaunty osprey
<@113813700237852677> wya u need to R1
wat did i miss
spring bough
wat did i miss
some dude was talking mad shit to trickz that pikadomnated him to rank 1
grave basin
ret pallies making everyone miserable for 3 seasons
jaunty osprey
xd
spring bough
he got banned on 2 accts lmaoooo
jaunty osprey
@outer sky i c u typing
stoic spruce
he got banned on 2 accts lmaoooo
3
outer sky
pres evoker 4 set broken? this dude healed 3m hps in a 2.5m game
stoic spruce
2 by trickz one by stealthi
jaunty osprey
pres evoker 4 set broken? this dude healed 3m hps in a 2.5m game
well
you guys did more damage so he has to heal more
stoic spruce
Bro wad SPITEFUL
jaunty osprey
and then you died to coin rogue outside of a stun
outer sky
i was super low
grave basin
rage baiting on discord is peak unemployed behaviour
spring bough
i was super low
i woulda broke something lol
grave basin
pikabooismygod@gmail?
spring bough
this guy too
nerf evo
jaunty osprey
like I said
if you do more damage, healers have to heal more
any healer can do that HPS
grave basin
hpal can do 3m hps?
potent pivot
i've never seen anyone make back to back accounts to come in and bait 3x in one day
potent pivot
let alone 4
jolly sierra
he got banned on 2 accts lmaoooo
ihave all the screens
jaunty osprey
i've never seen anyone make back to back accounts to come in and bait 3x in one ...
i cant believe i missed it
stoic spruce
pikabooismygod@gmail?
grave basin
there was a guy on monk discord saying he was 2.6k SL s2 as a brag and kept bringing it up
and got muted there too
i wonder if it was the same guy
gleaming sentinel
Pikabooismygod@gmail.com
Pikabooismygod2@gmail.com
Pikabooismygod3@gmail.com
...
Hey that’s my Facebook
gleaming sentinel
jolly sierra
where did u guys get my email from
wanna DMs with the screencaps?
stoic spruce
wanna DMs with the screencaps?
Me too plz
outer sky
any healer can do that HPS
i just scrolled through the last 20 games in my details and only pres did anywhere near that kind of HPS. Highest I saw from any other healer was 2.2m and even that was an outlier. Maybe any healer can do it but it seems to be easier on pres idk becayse theyre all doing like 3m hps and nobody else has come close
jaunty osprey
wanna DMs with the screencaps?
sure 😄
jaunty osprey
i just scrolled through the last 20 games in my details and only pres did anywhe...
you're right though, 4 set is insane on them - but not really worth staring at details
outer sky
my lock says their 4 set is broken af
spring bough
i just scrolled through the last 20 games in my details and only pres did anywhe...
nerf tier
spring bough
yeah its funny asf even a 1 second aoe stun GG
outer sky
this season, games are won win in CC
thats really unfortunate for me because my comp doesnt have enough damage to kill in a CC chain
my lock is playing Wither
outer sky
been queuing with other classes
i just queue with this lock becasue he's chill to play with
jaunty osprey
I think wither is awful
though tbh
pad damage isn't good
burst more important
haunt shadowbolt
outer sky
hes tried both builds and has said we consistently win more when he plays wither
outer sky
It could be
spring bough
i love a blitz lobby where its a terrible healer just complaining about everyone else in chat lol
and our team just getting smoked and this guy typing a million miles a second
outer sky
i love a blitz lobby where its a terrible healer just complaining about everyone...
I did a blitz the other day where they called for the hunter to sit a base and for me and the druid to go hit, and the druid and I got the base we hit but the hunter lost his and I guess everyone forgot the hunter was sitting and not me and everyone started flaming me INCLUDING the druid who helped me cap the base 5 seconds earlier
Like I couldnt believe what I was seeing in chat
spring bough
yeah blitz can be funny. was winning the 3 cart mines map earlier and the lock on our team was screaming at us for losing carts meanwhile we had 3 of them
bro thought we were the opposite color lmao
outer sky
Blitz is fun because you never know what kind of troll shit youre gunna see
especially low MMR blitz
watching priests grip your EFC back towards the team fight lmfao
exotic dove
So my mastery DR is at 642 rating loss for DR probably getting close the point where I start goign for the 3rd stat
exotic dove
oh did something happen maybe I should have posted what I said just now a little later
spring bough
especially low MMR blitz
Started at like 0 MMR on the DH think I’m up to 2k now but first 5 games were all Ls lmao
Was so brutal but the win streak finally came
stoic spruce
he had a very big thing against trickz
I got a very big thing for trickz 
potent pivot
oh did something happen maybe I should have posted what I said just now a little...
you're fine lol
jolly sierra
cuz they never got to type
ye
potent pivot
been a while since the drama, they just found it amusing
jolly sierra
what bout the 4th time?
potent pivot
what bout the 4th time?
we banned them when we saw them join the server
stoic spruce
Outlaw is genuinely making me feel smooth brained
It'll cook your takes
Don't do it
sharp sierra
It'll cook your takes
i just love how it plays it feels so smooth and hetic but fuck man i play mage and barrage and win doing 500x the damage
maybe i just need to keep it in a rmp comp
stoic spruce
Bro said it plays smooth
sharp sierra
i like high apm so smooth to me
stoic spruce
If this Outlaw is smooth you're playing it wrong ngl
sharp sierra
probably
sharp sierra
it feels like so much effort for zero results
but now i cant gear back to sin lmao so ill keep running it till something clicks and keep my mage on the back burner
jolly sierra
got the 1k9 illusion guys
waxen meteor
<@446428215070949383> do u play DH like a rogue in blitz
Sometimes, but DH not so good without healer
Almost dead before even start fighting with a mage or hunter
marsh yacht
I got to 1950 went 6-0 for 44 rating, next game went 2-4, lost 40 rating
spring bough
I got to 1950 went 6-0 for 44 rating, next game went 2-4, lost 40 rating
Solo life lol
jolly sierra
get 2100 for the elite weapon mogs!!
ty, ty
ye, on my way, gotta do my best (i am just farming bloodstones to sell)
marsh yacht
I rage quit ngl, now I can’t play til Sunday lol
grave basin
I wonder if they remember that end of SL, the catalyst stacked weekly up to a limit
Seems like that didn't happen at the end of last season
grave basin
maybe i just need to keep it in a rmp comp
Arcane not getting hotfixed nerfed is a war crime at this point
They're literally 100-0ing with 17m barrage
Where the FUCK is blizzard?
gleaming pawn
clearly unfucking Legion Remix is all hands on deck right now
and prepping for Midnight
why bother balancing a season 3 patch
stoic spruce
Honestly yeah
Why?
Legion remix will take a large portion of the player base while the rest will wait for midnight
gleaming pawn
if we don't get tuning notes tomorrow, I wont be expecting them until maybe the turbo boost later this season
outer sky
if we don't get tuning notes tomorrow, I wont be expecting them until maybe the ...
we aint gettin' shit lol
everything thats busted right now is the shit blizz likes to be busted
gleaming pawn
yep the game is in a disgusting state right now even in PvE, but becuase the casters are dominating and Ret is as brain dead as ever Blizz couldn't care less
sharp sierra
Arcane not getting hotfixed nerfed is a war crime at this point
im keeping my outlaw geared for when buffs happen
but yeah my arcane feels dumb sometimes when everything lines up
outer sky
im keeping my outlaw geared for when buffs happen
For when they buff it to do as much damage as a MW?
sharp sierra
For when they buff it to do as much damage as a MW?
you leave my fw dreams alone...
that hybrid build is so stupid
i hate that it does 10x the fw damage
for a boring turret playstyle
outer sky
this guy thinks outlaw is S tier lol
grave basin
maybe it is when whaaz plays it
grave basin
if we don't get tuning notes tomorrow, I wont be expecting them until maybe the ...
https://www.wowhead.com/news/lfr-dimensius-might-actually-be-doable-now-trolling-hotfixed-out-378424
Hotfixing lfr btw
grave basin
Arcane mages ruining the ladder with 100-0s for two weeks: I sleep
glass hazel
still no pala nerfs gg
grave basin
Lfr dads dying to lfr Dimmy: real shit
grave basin
still no pala nerfs gg
Wait for Friday evening
outer sky
still no pala nerfs gg
where would you see them if there were any?
glass hazel
usually blue notes yeah
wowhead\mmochamp will post them as well
but they nerf coin almost directly
rogues powwa
outer sky
but they nerf coin almost directly <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
Remember the average player is about 15-1600 rating
Which is more likely to get complains from people hard stuck at 1500?
Coin or ret pally
glass hazel
well coin yeah
outer sky
Exactly
Thats why they do this
They need to appease the median player and when you have 1 shots in the game, especially from a rogue who has you stun locked while he's one shotting you, people at that median rating get really pissed off
Way more so than they do when they face 1600 rated ret pallys who never sanc and die without pressing bubble half the time
outer sky
Yeah I dont get it
I swear ive faced some pallys in 3s who were doing like some no bubble challenge or something
I remember 1 guy
I faced him twice
Both times died without bubble
But we didnt blow him up
He just rotted out and died
And never bubbled
glass hazel
lol
outer sky
Either time
glass hazel
i think bro blamed his healer btw
outer sky
He was the healer
glass hazel
stoic spruce
I swear ive faced some pallys in 3s who were doing like some no bubble challenge...
It's why I love when ret is this way
The fotm truly shine
outer sky
The fotm truly shine
Yeah but im at 2.3mmr which isnt even THAT high right now and all the rets are absolutely oppressive
I really do believe that into most comps a ret or his teammates have to make a critical error in order to lose
Like overlap a bunch of stuff
Most of the time I see rets bubble now its aggro bubble
I used to do this thing where if they used BoP and trinket id do a smoke bomb go just to get their bubble but tbh now it doesnt even feel worth it because even if I get the bubble I still ain't gunna kill em lol
wanton breach
And never bubbled
maybe he thought he was playing legion/bfa/SL auto bubble talent
outer sky
maybe he thought he was playing legion/bfa/SL auto bubble talent
I just threw up a little
Remember when DHs had auto darkness at 20%
wanton breach
i remember auto blur (which still exists but nerfed compared to back then)