pvp

[spring bough]

im about to become a DH maxi cause i wanna do damage lol

[keen canopy]

nah you gotta swap to ret pally

[spring bough]

yeah well wasnt enough to do anything lmao

[spring bough]

i dont like playing ret lol

plus DH got the warglaive mog GG

[keen canopy]

ive still gotta get that but timewalking is just such a hassle

ive actually got Warglaives on 2 characters i just havent run timewalking BT at all

[spring bough]

just gotta do it on a DH so make sure u got one ready lol

[keen canopy]

could have sworn you could do it on any character as long as your dh has glaives

[marsh yacht]

No mage tower in the remix tho right?

[keen canopy]

if there is mage tower it wont give the weapon transmog

[marsh yacht]

Guess I’m not rolling feral still then

[carmine sequoia]

should I be using a dagger in offhand as outlaw?

[potent pivot]

doesn't really matter

[stoic spruce]

What if my goal is to reach 1600?

[jolly sierra]

i think ppl is legit trolling today

i have a holy pally in a lobby

hardstuck at 1k9

never using bop

any time

and sometimes guys forgets to uses their defensives

[hybrid palm]

Got the weapon illusion, yay! N obviously a big thanks to @potent pivot n others through the seasons who have helped

[exotic dove]

Grats

[odd yew]

ik 2s isn't a very competitive bracket but I really struggle with BM hunters and have 0 clue what I can do against them

[jolly sierra]

crimson tempest around his pets + kill his main pet (the one with more base focus)

[jolly sierra]

well, it doesn't looks too bad

and more like this pls

[potent pivot]

yeah.. if only

we need more wholesome pvpers

[jolly sierra]

yes, i feel soft af after that

ngl

[stoic spruce]

We need hardened war criminals

Not a bunch of SOFTIES

With SOFT HANDS

[jolly sierra]

stfu big meanie i wanna some calm in the storm

KEK

gotta go sleep anyways

see you later guys

[exotic dove]

We do need more wholesome pvpers for sure

So I did 3s today playing Aff Assa and Destro assa with an rsham. I played both Deathstalker and Fatebound and honestly they both were good. I think Assa is the only spec of Rogue that I play that can play whatever hero tree it wants.

Did some shuffles here and there too

I like that

I wish more specs were like that tbh

[potent pivot]

I think you can play trickster on sub or law tbh

[exotic dove]

My only problem with trickster is the cc breaking

for sub and I assume it would break cc on outlaw too

[potent pivot]

Just seems very under tested

[exotic dove]

I did play some trickster sub

Not in 3s but I was messing around with Trickster sub in skirms

the other day

Oh before I forget I stopped playing Cold Blood in my fatebound assa build cause everyone freaked out and either enemy priest gripped my target away or other random things like that. I got annoyed pretty quick but after I removed it was having fun again lol

[potent pivot]

o.O

Problem with dropping CB+IE is proc’ing lucky coin isn’t as guaranteed i think

[exotic dove]

I seemed to do good with out it and this was tested in 3s today

[jade hollow]

any outlaw guide out?

[exotic dove]

at least according to details I didnt see anything significant

not having it

[potent pivot]

Yeah I mean you can still do good regardless of talents, if you’re good you’re good

You just aren’t getting any 4p procs if you’re not proc’ing lucky coin

[exotic dove]

Oh yeah I realize but lucky coin still seemed to proc frequently

without it

[potent pivot]

You can use #outlaw-faq or wowhead to learn how to dps, learning how to cc/use defensives properly etc is something you gotta practice on your own

[potent pivot]

Oo

[exotic dove]

I was thinking it wouldnt but it did

[potent pivot]

I’d be interested to see your details of the procs with/without CB/IE

Were you even using IE before? Like when you were running CB

[exotic dove]

IE? sorry that abreviation escapes me

[jade hollow]

ok. is it the same rotation as pve?

[potent pivot]

Inevitable End

[exotic dove]

Oh no I wasnt running that

[potent pivot]

Basically. You just have CC that takes up GCDs which you won’t see in the pve guides

[exotic dove]

Probably should have lol

[potent pivot]

That’s why your procs were the same lolz

Try running it ye

[exotic dove]

The problem with running Cold blood that I am running into is the WEak aura warriors so its like I lose out

I will have to figure that out I guess

[potent pivot]

Are you sure it’s CB they’re tracking and not just KB?

[exotic dove]

yeah

cause I didnt even use KB yet

I hit CB

then I am cced or enemy priest grips away before the KB

[potent pivot]

Rofl that’s wild

[exotic dove]

Could be bad luck for me or its what I get to look forward to in shuffle 3s and maybe 2s

when using CB

[orchid plinth]

the russian cold blood botter making waves

[languid jay]

I've started with pvp again (BGs first) after like 15 years, mostly for the transmogs (outlaw now, but probably sub once I can get daggers)

are there some cheap-but-useful crafts to best use my heraldry? (this is an alt where I don't need any pve crafts, and I can level LW to a degree if needed, dead server)

[orchid plinth]

Outlaw and Sub play very different gear but most people craft 2 Rings 1 Neck with their 9 free Heraldries

[languid jay]

yeah I saw that, but that's more for power and not for completing the set easiest 😛

[potent pivot]

what

what do you even mean

what set

[languid jay]

my goal is enough conquest for the gladiator set, nothing more

[potent pivot]

the heraldries don't even create the same model items as the conquest set i'm pretty sure

[languid jay]

ok, good to know, thanks

[glass hazel]

You can't craft set, best way to spend stat wise neck and rings

[potent pivot]

they didn't mean tier set

that's why i had to clarify because it seemed odd

[glass hazel]

Oh transmog maybe

[potent pivot]

ya

[languid jay]

gladiator set as in transmog, yeah

[glass hazel]

Just get conquest then 🙂 best way probably farm war chests

[languid jay]

been doing some random BGs and it's fun enough for now. I am very rusty 😛

probably worst Lt Gen EU currently

[potent pivot]

ye just farm war supply crates

you don't even have to pvp to get conquest or any pvp currency

[languid jay]

I see, I'm gonna read up

[orchid plinth]

In LFG there are "crate groups" that just fly around and pick them up

[grave basin]

Is it just me or is shuffle ladder super depressed rn

I can't seem to budge 2.2k

[pliant lintel]

don't worry about it brother it's the start of the season, it's the MMR you want to be looking at anyway ignore CR

• meta is definatly not in rogue favour atm

2.2 is currently top 100 in EU atm so you're doing fine

[grave basin]

Yea my MMR bounces from 2150 to 2200

[pliant lintel]

yea it's fine bro tbh i stopped queueing until there is some balance changes

MMR getting tanked by bullshit or people on high mmr that don't deserve to be there

[exotic dove]

Same with my Rogues

[grave basin]

Its insane tbh

Half my games end by someone getting nuked 50-0

[exotic dove]

yeah same

[pliant lintel]

or you get a warrior/ret/dh that tunnels 1 enemy and presses stuns on on CD and griefs all stun DR's😂

or hunter binding shots their my favourite

[grave basin]

Was on my ww and got a Ret that did all my damage with just sun's avatar

Not including dawnlight and all the other piss

How hard is it to put a PvP mod on that

[pliant lintel]

yea game's kinda of boring when it's just a zug zug fest

[untold remnant]

I sent honor to Ret and geared it up. WHAT A JOKE SPEC xD sooo easy

[gusty hedge]

full greens no tier doubling and almost tripling others dps is the ret way 😂

[untold remnant]

But they all scream for buffs

[vocal surge]

[pliant lintel]

the only bracket their not on the #1 spot is 2v2 above 1800

that's when you know you have a problem

[spring bough]

beauty of leveling a DH is queing as tank and getting instant pops

[spring bough]

disgusting nerf ret pls

bro did 1/4 the healing of a healer as dps..... disgusting

and did x2 overall of the lowest damage... LOL

[grave basin]

rogue now caught up to mmr

2.1 on assa

time to camp i guess for 3 months

[spring bough]

i might pve with my DH when i get him leveled up for the first time. too much fun in dungeons not too

[jaunty osprey]

Ok I’m back

Is this game still fun

[spring bough]

meh fatebound way more rng now with the damage for outlaw lol

[jaunty osprey]

So back to how it was before?

🙁

Poor Outlaws

[spring bough]

yeah i mean ive had some games 2milly crits but thats far and few inbetween most where its like 800k avg lol

[gleaming sentinel]

well no ven says its s tier so we just need to get good

[spring bough]

bout to be S tiering it up on a fresh DH

[vocal surge]

Lmao

was playing a regular version of Temple of Kotmogu

thinking it was Hotmogu

[spring bough]

i like how they installed guardrails on one of the bridges in LBRS... LOL

[vocal surge]

I capped Blacksmith's flag

while everyone was distracted

My BG lads drew all the defenders away

while they weren't looking

swooped for that flag

Even the enemy healer couldn't react before I got that flag cap

[spring bough]

always soo funny watching the whole team fight right off the flag and ignore u while u cap lol

can always just see them yelling in chat "who was watching the flag?!?!?!" lol

[vocal surge]

I even capped Farm at the very start of the game

and defended it for 3 waves

we lost it on the 4th wave by a little sliver of time

I was .1s away from slapping everyone off the flag

[languid ravine]

found my own Gravestone xd

[vocal surge]

F

[spring bough]

LFG voting to kick so stupid.... doing all the bosses and i guess people dont like that lol

now cant que for 30min lol... all a brother wanted to do was the quests

[wispy light]

How to kill warlocks without let them even trinket? As assassination.

[vocal surge]

Play at 500 MMR

[spring bough]

BRD gotta be removed frm classic lfg lol

[gleaming sentinel]

i might take one for the team and use my expanstion boost on a ret paladin

it will surely get nerfed then

[jolly sierra]

dont expect killing in 0.5s as assa

you need to pillar hug a lot and use garrote w stun

[spring bough]

there isnt even an avg wait time for my blitz que..... 2800 mmr at 1845 rating is so ridiculous lol

[spring bough]

ive found out the last two days that /emotes piss people off like no other Lol

[dark kernel]

My guild had prom night last night

It ended bloody with guild war game shuffles

[languid ravine]

Mage is fighting three guys at enemy Base in EotS
there is two enemy Rets in middle
Surely the entire rest of my team doesnt manage to lose the other base against 3 people, right?

right guys?

Surely

There is no way

guys

guys there is no way we lose the base at our graveyard

against three guys

right??

guys

[languid ravine]

This has been abusable for 10+ years its insane

[spring bough]

yeah its trash "didnt go fast enough" boot like what sorry i wanted xp

[languid ravine]

also what is my luck I need 500 honor for the weekly and I get EOTS three times in a row

the only blitz that is bugged with the quest

and my team sucks so hard again

sometimes I think blizz has it out for me

[spring bough]

into the 50s on my new DH and this is where the fun talents come in XD

dps ques for dungeons is hella fast rn if any1s leveling chars

just found out DH can cast eye beam during netherwalk LOL

[hearty shell]

whats our opener for outlaw? or whats our priority list?

[sharp sierra]

/spit is my favorite thing to do after deleting a paladin

[spring bough]

i find it hilarious they didnt fully take it out of the game

[fresh ermine]

21min in blitz que

i dont even wanna play anymore

[sharp sierra]

Yeah you just can’t click on them while doing it anymore

Even the pvp flag toy thing hardly works half the time

[spring bough]

yeah thats why im leveling an alt lol

[fresh ermine]

I needa buy xbox

[dark moon]

whaaaaaaaaaat

[spring bough]

nvm musta bugged in the dungeon i was in. swear i had it active and used it. just tried it again and it isnt going

[dark moon]

i thought i had missed out on many, many, many beams in netherwalk

whew

[spring bough]

i swear bro i have had matches 100% of my kicks precog and i know im hitting while they still casting

[dark moon]

and when a low healer does that every kick its demoralizing

[spring bough]

second i see one do that i dont interrupt that one anymore

rather than give them precog all game

[dark moon]

mid cast step kick and precog

like 💔

[halcyon timber]

^ yep

[dark moon]

ret paladin i think

survival is broken, arcane is broken

[spring bough]

how high do u think i can get this DH tonight in just honor gear for solo shuffle

15 levels to go then decked out for ques lol

[potent pivot]

check #outlaw-faq or wowhead or something to learn to priorities of dps

[hearty shell]

oh ok if its the same as pvp thats fine

i didnt know if it changed for pvp

[potent pivot]

for the most part yea

[grave pier]

Hey guys

how do u make macro so cast of trades is instantly casted on a specific player?

The player's name is Tommothy

nvm did it

[gleaming sentinel]

tommothy, lol

[languid ravine]

I m 3k blitz mmr 66% winrate on assa
1.2k blitz mmr 33% winrate on Ret pala
working as intended

[grave pier]

how much of an L is it to play RMP, with Disc and Arcane

but as an Assas rogue

@potent pivot

[potent pivot]

prolly fine

rogue/mage tends to do okay regardless of exact specs

[jolly sierra]

its ok, ye

[potent pivot]

rogue/mage, rogue/lock, sometimes rogue/boomie or even rogue/deva

[grave pier]

i think we have dmg down

what we dont have is how to CC

like i am sapping the healer at openner but i know i shouldnt 😄

[jolly sierra]

why not?

sapping the healer at start raises a lot the chances to win

[grave pier]

so mage can spam sheep?

[stoic spruce]

Assuming you don't fuck up your opener

[jolly sierra]

ah you talk in general

ye, its fine

but...

tell me

which DR endures more rn

sheep or sap?

[grave pier]

got no clue 😄

getting back into pvp

[pliant lintel]

sap healer into priest fear mage covers non kill target (you can cheap to set the game up if needed)

[jolly sierra]

6 seconds vs the 4 from sap, gotcha

[pliant lintel]

can also blind intop poly if mage wants to cc healer and priest wants to cover off target

or gouge kill target kindey healer mage covers off target

etc etc lots of different variations

[grave pier]

yh im tryna figure out when/who should go for off-target/ kill target and healer

[olive sequoia]

i can get 4-set next weekend because i got set shoulders in the vault, i could buy the item to add 723 to it next reset, but idk if it's worth for fatebound assass or if i should just buy conq helm for example

[grave pier]

u dont get vault from PvP anymore??

[jolly sierra]

no

[olive sequoia]

nah but i did delves and got set shoulder from that

there is an item you can but to put the 723 in pvp on pve gear

buy*

its 700 conq

do i do it ?

[potent pivot]

shoulder is the piece you don't want

[spring bough]

leveling a fresh toon past 70 without timewalk sucks lol.... gotta get a certain ilvl for random dungeons RIP

[olive sequoia]

ok so just buy the helm and wait for the next voidsplinter is best

[pliant lintel]

you can run a quick LFR to see if you get tier piece from that

[jolly sierra]

i forgot

day 3

and BTW, if you can play well

you can sacrifice 3 ilvl from gloves to get the bloody token ones

and u shove the 4set there

i did that w my ret at least and is bursting everything

after all, you can replace it later

[gleaming sentinel]

It’s funny how much more chill and fun alt Qing is compared to my main, I’m a head case

[jolly sierra]

for me is the opposite

the panda is getting the chill matches

and the ww monk alt the worst ones

[spring bough]

its gonna be soo fun when im an S tier DH plowing people over

pressing abilities regardless of CC and watching health drop

[stoic spruce]

god outlaw just does no damage

or rtaher

no meaningful damage

[spring bough]

come to the darkness with me on DH

its so much more fun lol

[stoic spruce]

ew no

[spring bough]

3 button combo people dead

[gleaming pawn]

just go play UHDK, they shit out damage right now as long as you can live

[molten hedge]

Yeah assa boomie slaps I like it

[stoic spruce]

how many seconds can someone be stunned before the DR lock?

[spring bough]

what

[jolly sierra]

doesn't matter, all depends of the stun spell

[stoic spruce]

specifically stuns

[jolly sierra]

you have to let the feral do the 1st stun, at it stay long the most

[stoic spruce]

nooooooooooooo

how long can a player be stunned before they become immune

[jolly sierra]

3 DRs

[potent pivot]

like 8-9 seconds?

depends on the stuns used

[jolly sierra]

its hard to determinate, all depends from the class who does the stun xd

for example a rog its like...

[potent pivot]

the max is 8-9sec

[stoic spruce]

thank you

[jolly sierra]

7.5s

or so

[potent pivot]

a rogue can do 8

[jolly sierra]

from a kidney> cheap >cheap

kidney is 5s, right?

[gleaming pawn]

ye

[jolly sierra]

gotcha

8

5s > 2s (cheap) > 1s

[potent pivot]

mhm

if you pair it with other spec's spells

it can be as high as 9

[jolly sierra]

depends of the evoker tho

[potent pivot]

triple cheap = 7
kidney/cheaps = 8
kidney/maim/etc = ~9

[spring bough]

@stoic spruce 8 seconds bud

[gleaming sentinel]

if outlaw gets nerfed again in pvp i think im rerolling

[stoic spruce]

if you havent by now you never will

[modest ore]

anyone know where this far right cheapshot icon is from? been trying to remove it for a while

[grave basin]

[grave basin]

Outlaw is objectively doing better this season

Not by much

[gleaming sentinel]

I’m just afraid it’s going to get nerfed becuase the best players in the world say it’s op

[grave basin]

Outlaw isn't op though?

It enables arcane mages in 3s I guess

[spring bough]

imagine if DH had stealth... no1 would play rogue XD

[grave basin]

aoe fear aoe stun ranged kick st stun st incap

[spring bough]

imagine the new void demon hunter "slip into the void undetected"

[jolly sierra]

they have, its called "shadowmeld"

XD

[spring bough]

i got to level 76 and found a lfg group that kept requeing and we are smashing dungeons lol

[sharp sierra]

super fun, however after two days festering into clawing shadows is boring as shit lmao

[spring bough]

bout to deck my fresh DH out and see how far i can climb

[gleaming pawn]

if my friends are wanting to play HPal/Aff Lock in 3s, besides my Rogue, what should I play with them

[spring bough]

where do i have to go for the alt to get the cloak

[gleaming pawn]

you have to start the campaign, but you get the option to skip when you are first entering the city

[vocal surge]

Had a game

4 Ret Pallies

sitting at WW

none of them helped their team the entire game

and we won by capping LH and Mines

[gleaming sentinel]

checks out

[vocal surge]

Ended the game as Top damage and top kills

[grave basin]

Mage

[spring bough]

ally in brawl are the worst lol

first game i join we getting smoked

[vocal surge]

XD

Get Salt Water potions

pop Berserk

and pump with Salt Water

Also grab Swift Slasher

[sharp sierra]

this week is so good for conq capping on alts

[grave basin]

I'm on my knees begging for tuning

Please not another week with pink class

[spring bough]

i had to finish the phase diving quest on the main now i got it lol

[glass hazel]

haha i had same problem

[spring bough]

the wraps just going to 730 is so fire

[glass hazel]

was so pissed when realized i had to do few more quests

[grave basin]

I hope you never start the ecodome quests then

Cause that has got to be the longest chain of quests in wow history

[glass hazel]

i didnt

worth it?

[grave basin]

Did you get taivan?

[glass hazel]

nope i just get wrap skip and thats it i think

aaa

[grave basin]

Lol

[glass hazel]

from df lol

jeez

[grave basin]

Yes that mount

[glass hazel]

nope i was too lazy haha

[grave basin]

If you want the meta achievement mount for this expac

Then you need ecodome im 99.9% sure

[glass hazel]

🙁 there is new one? i got shadow from s1

[grave basin]

They will release one at the end of the expansion

But you can start pre farming all the smaller meta achievements from every patch

Like the exalted reps and zone meta unlocks

[glass hazel]

ok, thank you

[grave basin]

You can do it quite fast now

But some stuff is time gated, like the goblin reps from undermine

You need to be exalted with the 4 cartels

[glass hazel]

i missed 100% buff =_=

[grave basin]

Well, you have till the end of the expansion

[spring bough]

thought a public work order would be a challenge and all my stuff instantly went lol

[grave basin]

Start doing it before reset

[glass hazel]

yeah same goes with goblin raid

i'm at 18

-_-

[sharp sierra]

man im about to just gear outlaw at this point

[glass hazel]

out of 20

[grave basin]

Why @sharp sierra

[glass hazel]

tried to do lfr like 1hr+ nothing haha

[spring bough]

go DH lmao

[sharp sierra]

ive been having fun on uhdk but its just missing anything fun rotation wise and sin is just boriung the hell out of me

[glass hazel]

he likes to tryhard probably

[grave basin]

Yea maybe it will pick up later when people are done with kareshi trust and rebels rep

[edgy vine]

Is it just me or is sub farking weak ass rn

[grave basin]

I thought you were done for the season boi

[sharp sierra]

i have one the rotation is weird to me idk why i can play VDH like a piano but havoc feels like im missing gloabls

[grave basin]

[edgy vine]

I was

Came back today

[grave basin]

Nice

[sharp sierra]

crates have been nice tho, im fulling gearing alts with caps in like 4 hrs

[edgy vine]

Played one game of sub at 2k and just bombed out

3-3

[grave basin]

Haven't really played sub, just stuck to assa

[edgy vine]

the ret won all the rounds for me ngl

I prefer sub over assa

but i really do miss the echoing reprimand SL sub

your gos felt clean

[grave basin]

Why is sin boring

Feels like theres so much to do

You have so much to upkeep

Are you playing the meme one shot FB build @sharp sierra

[sharp sierra]

missing high apm and im playing the CB FB build yeah its fun

[grave basin]

Yea before it got nerfed by 80% in 1 week in s1

So is it fun or boring

[sharp sierra]

[glass hazel]

[sharp sierra]

idk im also an alt-a-holic

so nothing is fun for more than 2 days

xD

[grave basin]

I used to be like that too

[sharp sierra]

ill just go mm and turn my brain off

[grave basin]

Nothing wrong with that tbh

[grave basin]

Just enjoy the game

[sharp sierra]

nah i need a main, been doing this since i first got the game lol

[grave basin]

I decided I'd rather have 1-2 really juiced up high toons

[edgy vine]

dude

ret before friday nerfs

[grave basin]

Than 8 toons all hardstuck 1800

And that's when I climbed the most

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/exaggeration-you-know-what-too-much-go-too-far-dramatic-gif-20365059

[grave basin]

I mean that was me lol, just collect 1800 sets and be done

[sharp sierra]

nah same i feel that

[edgy vine]

the hunter set is p ass lol

not worth

[grave basin]

I know my hunter is my main

😭

[edgy vine]

I rmb your mog tho

its good

[sharp sierra]

Like one day i want to be cc bot and the next i just want to aoe farm EBGs xD

surv was my first ever actual main havent played it since df season 1 tho

maybe i just keep giving uhdk some more runs

[spring bough]

first lobby DH with just honor gear wish me luck lol

[sharp sierra]

i did 6-0 with dk one first game

[spring bough]

MM has nothing on a DH

1-0

yeah DH is op this is crazy... tier is gonna delete with conq weps

bout to do LFR try and get 4 set lol

[grave basin]

Ebgs got completely pissed on by premades

Totally ruined it for me

[spring bough]

gearing up an alt rn is really fast

already token capped and got all the pieces from that

97% mastery too lolol

[grave basin]

Yea go crate farm

It goes by fast

[spring bough]

1 solo round on DH lol

[stoic spruce]

having more fun as bdk in 10s than outlaw

[sharp sierra]

you are having too much fun 😭

one day i will be good with sp

[spring bough]

cringe lol

bdk feeling better than outlaw games broken

[grave basin]

How do you have fun on a spec that bounces from 1% to full every gcd

Bdk gotta be the most yo-yo hp spec I've seen

[spring bough]

up to 98.5% mastery on the DH... lol

[stoic spruce]

yeahhh

game bad

[spring bough]

time for midnight

[spring bough]

so many glaives being thrown cant wait for tier bonuses

[grave basin]

buddy plays another spec other than outlaw for a day and sees the light

[stoic spruce]

outlaw conditions you to think 1.4 million crits are high

[grave basin]

my sentinel sv bombs crit for 14m

[dark moon]

dh so fun got my elite set in less time that i spent gearing with green honor gear

[vocal surge]

mfw Sin is more tankier than Outlaw

[vocal surge]

This sin rogue really just gave up at the very end

and sat and did nothing

[indigo hill]

Because it's stupid op. Time for blizzard to start nerfing a few specs.

[dark moon]

id consider other specs stupid op, but getting 1.8 quickly in shuffle isnt a strong case for a nerf

[indigo hill]

Havoc is op. Same with boomie and mm hunter. Ofc paladins as well but I don't want them to shut down their discord again.

[dark moon]

surv is also op - flanking strike does stupid dmg, arcane is op, seen 17 mil barrage in arena

whats op about havoc btw

[gleaming sentinel]

Havoc has the lowest death rate by an extremely large margin. They only die in stuns in deep damp or if they get caught by a super coordinated setup (aka a rogue stuns and a mage barrages them for 10milly)

[dark moon]

interesting take

[gleaming sentinel]

https://wowarenalogs.com/stats?tab=spec-stats&bracket=Rated Solo Shuffle&sortKey=target&minRating=0&maxRating=4999&trendChartSpecs=&trendChartStat=representation

First blood stats lol

[dark moon]

this opens a big discussion for sure

[exotic dove]

I actually want them to shut down their discord again. It was extremely entertaining seeing the memes that were made and the trolling raider.io, skillcapped and others did to Rets

Would be hilarious to see it again

[indigo hill]

I hope they can wait. I haven't gone trough all the memes yet. 😂

[indigo hill]

Doubt that. Havoc is OP and one of the simple specs to play. S tier all the way and always rated as the easier spec.

[exotic dove]

Is Havoc actually OP? I guess since I main a Rogue and play Assa and Sub I dont see it. Especially Sub cause I can literally just kill them in seconds and they can't do anything without a trinket

Arcane, Surv one shots and Ret come to mind when it comes to op give or take a couple or so others

[jolly sierra]

i am arguing about PVP in Facebook, i told a guy after he was 2360 rating in a pirate cuban server "private doesnt counts" he replied me back and i said "private doesnt counts" again XD

[exotic dove]

Yeah I dont really count private servers either

[indigo hill]

It is. Ofc if there is an idiot behind the keyboard, no spec is OP but in general they are. They're just not 1 shot mm op. But the high mobility, damage uptime and control they have makes them a hell of allot stronger than most specs. Ofc they're also simple like a ret.

They're basically the love child of a ww monk and demo lock and they sacrificed everything.

[spring bough]

i did LFR with it and i find it funny the raid build is the pvp build with like 2 talent changes lol

[dark moon]

Are there hard specs nowadays? Don't think so. Also if we judge havoc by first blood we can see in every backed but high rated 2s they are the target died the least (dps/heal only). Which tells a different story as we can see the top first blood specs are almost all the same. I'm not saying dh doesn't have mobility or isn't hard to play, but maybe other specs need a buff 8n the survival department. As i said before - this opens up a big discussion. If you check team composition you can see havoc's partners die first and it means they lose the match. Ps. Outlaw can be an, and wait for it, outlier just because I don't want to get Vancleef aggro.

[spring bough]

that avg / burst dps for UDK is so stupid to see makes me wanna level one

throw up some diseases that hit every1 in the whole lobby and smoke some death coils and youre just crankingg lol

[dark moon]

That in shuffle?

[spring bough]

yeah its like 1.1mil avg 4mil burst lmao

[dark moon]

Too bad their elite set is trash, as it sounds fun.

[spring bough]

yeah im meh about it... i actually really like the DH elite set

i changed my demon hunters tattoos to red in anticipation of rocking it lol

[jolly sierra]

day 4

[spring bough]

god work

can u post that in ret discord too

[jolly sierra]

i am not there

sadly

[spring bough]

why do i feel like that channel is a narcissists dream lol

[jolly sierra]

cuz they are rets mains

plagued specially with human male paladins with varian haircuts and RP walking

[dark moon]

Hahahahahha

That's a stereotype if I've seen one, and accurate, too!

Buff holy?

Doesn't look like it, lol

[gleaming sentinel]

surerly they announce tuning tonight

[jolly sierra]

i had a former friend which was exactly like that, he was awful as person

[outer sky]

guys im really not so sure 4 set is the play for assa

[dark moon]

Same. That's why my paladin is a blonde tauren that rocks vanilla items and looks like a warrior

[gleaming sentinel]

not een for ds? seems kinda nice

[dark moon]

I was suggesting that Holy priest players don't feel the need to close discord, but if we're talking about whole pvp revamp - 100% remove tanks, heal dmg and every dps having 205 defensive and heal means

Also get rid of micro cc

[jolly sierra]

why pallies brings together that kind of ppl wtf

also, look at this ret mains

https://tenor.com/view/cachorro-arrombado-gif-7448837797907435519

[spring bough]

can we somehow whisper that to rets in game pls

[jolly sierra]

hope so

we need the link to the gif

[spring bough]

why is it when im like halfway or almost done with a delve is when my que pops... they need to be able to send u back to where u stopped lol

wtb that quality of life improvement for midnight pls.... snapshot my delve so i can finish and not redo it lol

[grave basin]

new trading

post

is completely ass

the first month i dont want a single thing

[gleaming sentinel]

my assa alt is a better win rate in both shuffle and blitz and higher rated :>

[grave basin]

XD

[spring bough]

how am i doing more healing as DH than my teams one healer.....

[dark moon]

Kek healer 😄

[grave basin]

im definately not queueing shuffle

until next week

just got globaled by an mm from 70-0 with an 8m black arrow

[sharp sierra]

Yes please make it so we have even less healers I really do miss the 15 min random bg Que times

I don’t think 2s will ever be balanced

Unless they remove 3s

And that their baby

And ngl if a disc did that much Dps it’s either a horrible Dps player or that guy needs to find a better healer duo

[gleaming sentinel]

yea had an mm about to go 0-6 and ofc against me at the end he kills my healer in the opener so i go 3-3 >.>

[sharp sierra]

2s in my opinion is the ultimate

98% comp diff

2% actual skill expression that’s super fun to actually fight in

[spring bough]

DH is broken boys

[gleaming sentinel]

im an assa main now, idc

im just too far geared for outlaw on my main rogue to switch lol

[sharp sierra]

I’m kinda bias towards disc but I can totally agree with Druid. Cyclone needs to be on CD idc

Idk how they would even fix 2s tbh Druid and disc will mechanically always be the best just like the way rmp works

[spring bough]

just level a new char ez gear up

couple moore solos and my DH has 3 set lol

[sharp sierra]

Bro is done with rogue

Yeah outlaw is such a good fantasy in my head as a spec and playing it FEELS good just once you look at numbers it’s fucking confusing where anything happened

[spring bough]

i love when healers sit AFK last two rounds and do nothing

[sharp sierra]

Yeah like when I press clawing shadows in uhdk I feel like I actually can see the bars drop

With FB any spec I’m thinking to myself “huh I don’t even know when these coins went off but okay”

[harsh kiln]

You guys play with numbers?

[sharp sierra]

[spring bough]

numbers? all i know now as a DH is numbers

1.5mil essence breaks into bigger death sweeps GG

4 set gonna make this wicked

[harsh kiln]

No Wonder youre not winning as outlaw

Lol

[gleaming sentinel]

My alt is cruising, all good

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/pause-gay-no-gif-15366401

[spring bough]

new main *

[sharp sierra]

Lmaoooo

[spring bough]

already 1k on the DH time to push to elite today XD

[sharp sierra]

Are you enjoying it more or do you see yourself already getting bored

[spring bough]

ima prob be bored of the same 1-4 button rotation TBH

retreat into felblade into the only 3 other dmg abilities lmaaoooo

[spring bough]

wonder if i can do a delve 11 at 671 ilvl on a DH lol

[spring bough]

1 delve 11 and i pretty much went from 671 to 680 LOL

[jolly sierra]

i am still arguing in Internet with strangers

"the PVE achievement is not difficult, the difficulty is the 0.3% rating, as they say, only that percentage reaches it. It is difficult to kill the final boss in M ​​in the first month, even if you are comparing apples with oranges."

bullshit

XD

[hardy tinsel]

what slot should u craft?

[spring bough]

with the 9 free craft tokens? prob neck/rings

[hardy tinsel]

aight

[sharp sierra]

I’ve been doing that every class tbh just neck/rings

[spring bough]

get the most bang for ur buck and u can slap the gem embelish x 2 on the rings

low level solo shuffle makes me so frustrated lol

[lofty vine]

Dam venruki stating outlaw is s tier is mind-boggling. Spamming all my abilities and doing half the dmg of ret dh oof

Seeing sub below prot war dps is rip too. The higher health pools really messed up sub scaling

[spring bough]

they really gotta add a way that delves pause and you return to where u left off lol

i just got a solo lobby where its me a UDK, and arms and a fury.... 0-6 inc

[gleaming sentinel]

its just really good in organized 3s witha good caster, it really doesnt fit the solo q game made well

[spring bough]

1.74mil wounded quarry passive dmg for KBs is nice

wish outlaw could do coin dmg like that

[sharp sierra]

Set up comps will always be meta at the very top of players

[spring bough]

double my warriors ST dmg and we still lose... smh

[sharp sierra]

Ngl arms is like one of the few specs I haven’t pvped with yet

Seems like an honest spec

[spring bough]

how do i stop brann from auto mining nodes

bro just pulls half the delve doing his own thing smh

[sharp sierra]

You have me tank it of course

[spring bough]

this DH 30 ilvls lower for PVE than my rogue and doing 11 delves easier lol

[grave pier]

wtf u suppose to do when u get smth like this

as assas rmp

[jolly sierra]

going lock

and crimson tempest him when the pets are close

[grave pier]

what about hunter?

does mage cc? or do I?

Am i not envenoming enough

[jolly sierra]

cc him in beast wrath

dunno about your comp

just focus in dotting up

gouge the chaos bolts

hug pillar a lot

and you would be ok

but never let the lock cast

[stoic spruce]

I hope not, I love my juicy Death Strikes

[keen canopy]

yeah just gotta roll the lock never let him cast kill the swap

[spring bough]

doing over 100mil ST dmg in one round in shuffle is life changing. never outlaw lol

[grave pier]

@jolly sierra @keen canopy , could you guys give me quick rundown on Disc Priest, Assas Rogue and Frost Mage. Just bullet points we should be aiming for. Im tryna keep my bleeds up on all 3 targets, which I think is stretching me too far thin.

We really stink against Shaman/DK, cuz we got no clue what to do vs them. Idk if I should be cc'ing the Healer or if Mage should DB Poly

[jolly sierra]

kidney/blind/gouge the healer and let the other guys follow the cc

disarm the dk at 40% hp or burst

you need your comps to follow ccs on healer

shaman break with priority the totem which gives them spell crit

tremor

spirit link

and force the dk to move

so shaman is forced too, messing up their positioning

[pliant lintel]

don't bleed 3, use cheap shot to set your mage/priest up

[jolly sierra]

a clear cc chain would be a kidney > poly > then psychic scream

if the healer have no trinket you have them easily off for more than 10 seconds

always watch the trinket with a tracker and aim the go into a smoke bomb

try the possible to do it with your mage into it

stun the target without trinket, then smoke bomb, then burst

[grave pier]

@jolly sierra, but wasting kidney on Healer = no cc on Kill target unless I vanish cheapshot?

Shouldn't the play be Mage + priest cc healer?

[jolly sierra]

???

is not wasted xd

ye you can use a vanish for a go

you are based in cc chains to pull wins

you can kidney and smoke bomb and have the mage w poly

then the priest doing a psychic scream

or play slow with the kidney in the healer, then poly, then psychic

both ways are valid

you have 2 vanishes, you can always use one for goes and the other one to run

also unholy dk have pets

doing crimson tempest in apocalypse

does a lot of damage

[rare prism]

Hey guys. I am looking for the best one shot build for open world pvp. Would be super funny if it was a build where you basically apply your bleeds/poisons and pretty much watch the enemy bleed out 😄 Dunno if that's a thing tho

[spring bough]

love me a 3 stun chaos nova that leads to a kill

[jolly sierra]

ive done 1s cheap shots which ends in wins ngl

[spring bough]

yeah but does urs aoe

[jolly sierra]

assa is not a 1 shot spec buddy

[rare prism]

Which is why i said any spec.

[jolly sierra]

bleeds is assa

xd

[rare prism]

Yeah, i still said that it would be fun if that would be possible. Not that i am only looking for assa builds

[potent pivot]

sub or fatebound assa

there's builds in the pins

[jolly sierra]

go sub

in that case

[keen canopy]

yeah i mean MAYBEEE
you do fatebound assa with amp poison and death from above
and you might be able to do some funny things

but i mean just go sub

[rare prism]

And i also dont mean one shot one shot, but more like "their fate is sealed within a cheap shot + kidney shot window"

[jolly sierra]

sub

basically

[keen canopy]

yeah i mean just go sub

[rare prism]

Deathstalker sub from the pins ye?

[pliant lintel]

yea go sub and pray they are afk or forget their keybindings

[potent pivot]

mhm

yea killing in 1 stun window isn't really feasible regardless of spec

unless they're undergeared pve'rs or something

[pliant lintel]

if you want to 1 shot idk why you don't just go MM hunter and aim shot black arrow from stealth haha

[keen canopy]

true

[rare prism]

Cause it's not as fun 😄

I want some SLICE SLICE STAB STAB action 😄

[jolly sierra]

go feral with a convoke

[pliant lintel]

wait until you play legit any rogue spec you'll want to throw pc out of window rn

[jolly sierra]

its even more sadistic

[rare prism]

The MM hunter?

[jolly sierra]

feral

druid

[rare prism]

never played feral tho

[jolly sierra]

feral is basically an unnerfed rogue

[spring bough]

1800 on the DH already lol

[rare prism]

I just boosted a Horde Rogue on a 95% Alliance server. But you make me wanna spend some more gold 😄

[jolly sierra]

well, you have timewalking to level up

its fast af

[potent pivot]

just play what you wanna play xd

[keen canopy]

oh yeah timewalking is tomorrow right

maybe i'll level my millionth rogue

[jolly sierra]

i am lazy af to level my lock ngl

but i think i can and do the 1 button rotation

[rare prism]

Yeah i am honestly a pure PvE player where i play DH. But i wanted to have some fun since i got rekt by a guardian druid while farming gear 🙂

[jolly sierra]

to reach 1k8

[jolly sierra]

sounds like a tragic revenge anime plot

[rare prism]

Now i am seeking revenge!

[keen canopy]

this is the start of the pvper pipeline

get ganked in world pvp -> fine maybe ill pvp to show people like that what for

[rare prism]

I just wanna gank poor level 50 alliance dudes tbh.

[keen canopy]

all fun and games until they get on their main

[rare prism]

or they post a message in their guild 😄

[grave pier]

@jolly sierra ngl bro, I think i was doing my rotations really wrong. I was starting off with Ambush > Cheapshot > Garrote > Garrote > Rupture then building for Tempest....

but i see that people are doing garrote straight into rupture at 3cp?

[pliant lintel]

honestly bro it depends what you are playing against and what stops they got for you

[potent pivot]

you don't have to no

also are you playing deathstalker or

[keen canopy]

if he's opening with ambush then probably right

[potent pivot]

then you really want to be spending 5+ combo points on your finishers

[pliant lintel]

why would you ever open with ambush? just asking to get insta peeled on your opener

[potent pivot]

so you're popping Marks

[rare prism]

What are the chances of FB Assa working out?

[keen canopy]

Fatebound is good

amp poison death from above
is kinda cheese
but it might work

[rare prism]

Do i just go max. mastery with that?

[keen canopy]

yeah

[potent pivot]

besides tier set ye

[keen canopy]

like maybe
with all your poisons and bleeds already up obviously
kingsbane deathmark cold blood death from above envenom
is probably like a morbillion damage

[rare prism]

So, i will get my rogue equipped, get a 4 set, some nice daggers and try to mess with some ppl

I have already identified the Hallowfall weekly world quest thingy as my hunting grounds

[potent pivot]

i think it's fine

more people are starting to wise up to Inevitable End being the play as well

[keen canopy]

cold blood inevitabile end would work with death from above right since it counts as envenom

[potent pivot]

idr tbh

[grave pier]

no

fatebound

[potent pivot]

then why are you pressing ambush

[keen canopy]

why are you opening with ambush

[grave pier]

rip

so ambush isn't important

[potent pivot]

[potent pivot]

only for deathstalker

[grave pier]

I also was puttign in a Fan Of blades as my 3rd/4th ability

it was Pve rotation in my head

[molten hedge]

Ya I had a deathlog yday I hit 13 mil in 1.5 seconds flat. FB is good too

[potent pivot]

fan of knives on 2 or more targets to build combo points

[rare prism]

Can you share your build pls?

[molten hedge]

It’s the one here in pins

Poggers

[outer sky]

Ive tried all the builds and so far my best luck has been with the cleave aoe build. Ive done okay with fatebound but not with inevitable end.

[potent pivot]

oh you were trying to consume Momentum of Despair with Fan?

[rare prism]

What opener did you use tho?

[grave pier]

clear the witness

or smth

[potent pivot]

yeayea. lol

[potent pivot]

did you try it

[grave pier]

tbh i just need to figure out CC and coordinate my team then im chilling

[molten hedge]

Lol I just garrote and rupture and put crimson tempest up if it’s a cleave situation. Then I shiv tea badge dmark coldblood kingsbane and slap some envenoms

[potent pivot]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

go learn

[pliant lintel]

@grave pier what spec is your mage playing btw?

[rare prism]

It was so funny, I had my rogue boosted to ilvl 645 and went on the hunt in hallowfall. There was a guardian druid doing the world boss, I ambushed him, even pulled pots and everything and he didnt even give a fine fuck. He just stood there, facing the world boss, cleaving me to death elel

[keen canopy]

645 will do that yeah

[rare prism]

i am familiar with the PvE opener. Just not with the fact that i can use them in PvP aswell since they usually dont contain any kind of CC.

[keen canopy]

and being a guardian druid and all

[potent pivot]

its basically the same priorities as pve, just with CC thrown in

[rare prism]

Yeah but at which point? Cause spending CPs on Kidney Shot would drastically change the rota

[potent pivot]

learning global for global 'openers' is just outdated, because openers can be very situational

[jade hollow]

is outlaw just shit in shuffle?

[pliant lintel]

yes

[jolly sierra]

@spring bough

[spring bough]

depends on the RNG of the day

[jade hollow]

im losing like crazy, how do i play in shuffle?

[grave pier]

Frost

Also what is the crafted gear for Assas pvp?

!craft

[potent pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1283780831147589713

neck/ring x2 are the first crafts

[spring bough]

not to sound mean but gett used to losing as outlaw lol

[potent pivot]

after those, check murlok

[spring bough]

teammates will die on u and u cant do nothing some games

[rare prism]

Also, i am a complete noob to OWPVP, do i just get PvE gear? Maybe the PVP trinkets, but everything else will prob not make sense right?

[grave pier]

well i fucked up

i bought chest conq first 😄

[jolly sierra]

you can add pvp ilvl to the pve tier

[spring bough]

DH is the new rogue this season

[jolly sierra]

with consumables

[grave pier]

ok so buy 2x Heraldry and use it for ring & neck

[jolly sierra]

bought by conq

[potent pivot]

no

[potent pivot]

you get 9 free heraldries from winning some pvp games

[rare prism]

wat? :D#

[grave pier]

ah yes

just redeemed it

[potent pivot]

you need full pvp gear in the end

[keen canopy]

trinkets are the most important pieces of pvp gear if you're just starting out because of the set bonus and the cc obviously

so get trinkets first
and then just queue like epic bgs or crate farm until you can buy other pieces

[grave pier]

ohhh

ok i figured it out

[rare prism]

i even forgot what the currency is

[keen canopy]

honor for 710 item level
conquest for 723 item level

bloody tokens for 720 item level

[rare prism]

Isnt conquest only obtained from rated stuff?

[keen canopy]

no

[grave pier]

What's the enchant for the ring and neck @potent pivot

[keen canopy]

what spec are you

assassination?

[grave pier]

assas

ye

[potent pivot]

check the gear guide i linked

it shows all of that

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1283780831147589713

literally all of it

[rare prism]

oh

I thought PVP gear only matters in Scrims/BGs

[keen canopy]

pvp gear applies in any pvp situation

the second you attack another player the pvp item level applies

even in open world

[rare prism]

I thought it said "item level bla bla" in battlegrounds or smth like that

[potent pivot]

no

its any pvp situation

[keen canopy]

of course in bgs and arena you dont have to attack anybody for the item level to apply not that it really matters

[rare prism]

Good to know, so i dont have to do M+ with that char to whoop ass

Is Conquest also transferrable?

[keen canopy]

no

only honor
and honor has a tax on it because blizzard hates us

[rare prism]

So how do i farm it on a fresh char most effectively?

[keen canopy]

crate groups

people that farm war supply crates

each crate is 60 conquest

addon that tracks when a crate drops

every time you open a crate it's 50 bloody tokens, 60 conquest, 150 honor

and sometimes patterns and bloodstones

so it's pretty fast gearing

without even fighting anybody

most of the time

since most people dont attack a group of like 30-40 people

[rare prism]

Idk if thats too much to ask, but is there anyone from EU here that would be willing to show me some of that stuff ingame?

[rare prism]

Any recommendations?

[potent pivot]

search youtube

[pliant lintel]

can he respec either arcane or fire? frost ins't good rn has no burst right now as a rogue your job is basically setting up your partner for goes because all specs damage is weak, you'll probably find you're win rate will go up just by him respeccing

[potent pivot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQX5TzI51nk

[pliant lintel]

that's cold hard truth unfortunatly

[grave pier]

He was actually originally arcane.

[rare prism]

678 doesnt sound that high for me 😄 or does it also apply to current item level gear?

[grave pier]

But he just swapped to frost as we struggled to survive

and there was no DB for the poly too

[keen canopy]

just an old video i would imagine

[potent pivot]

..........

its from last season, but the same thing still works

for current ilvl pvp gear

[keen canopy]

yeah

[potent pivot]

the same method gives the currency

[rare prism]

ok, thanks a lot!

[pliant lintel]

tell him to try fire it's easier to play than arcane as you have multiple schools basically if you get kicked on arcane you die

[grave pier]

But it acc says to play Assas with Frost

[jolly sierra]

you can play in any rogue spec

[potent pivot]

what does

[jolly sierra]

or mage

the thing is having the class

the core is the same

[pliant lintel]

only way you kill as frost/assa pillaring and waiting for dampening

[grave pier]

like online

[jolly sierra]

where?

[potent pivot]

that doesn't really answer the question lol

[keen canopy]

source: The Onion

[grave pier]

i remember seeing it on reddit

[jolly sierra]

don't hear reddit

[potent pivot]

[jolly sierra]

xd

[grave pier]

F

[jolly sierra]

hear the people from here as a lot have plenty of xp as rog

and knows wtf are they doing

[grave pier]

true true

i just think i am trolling going Assas not sub

but i cannot learn sub, and i dont like it either. I can outlaw thou 😄

[pliant lintel]

assa is better with a warlock tbh

sub + outlaw pairs better with mage

but

[jolly sierra]

why u don't go solo shuffle instead?

[pliant lintel]

you can make it work

[keen canopy]

if you outlaw, you can sub

[grave pier]

@pliant lintel for the Priest, is it better to go Disc or Holy?

[jolly sierra]

disc

[keen canopy]

i mean like outlaw requires a phd to play if somebody can play outlaw they can probably figure out sub

[grave pier]

i am playing 3's with my friends

trios 🙂

[jolly sierra]

play as you like

only the class does matter

[grave pier]

yh cuz im thinking like if i have bleeds on every1

then i see a polymorph or fear

my bleeds either break it

or get removed, right?

[jolly sierra]

yeah, so?

[grave pier]

arent I all about bleeds?

[jolly sierra]

no

lol

[grave pier]

i have to re-apply garrote/rupture

[jolly sierra]

that is fine

[potent pivot]

thats fine

[grave pier]

ah

[jolly sierra]

i've won matches by only crowd control

not doing too much dmg

[grave pier]

ok so Frost is basically a no go

[jolly sierra]

read this from the pov "if i do a full pve rotation on target, never switching or staring at healer, should i win?"

[keen canopy]

yeah i mean if you can like sap blind gouge garrote
that's just so much cc they basically cant even play the game

[jolly sierra]

vs

"i don't do too much, but my comp does, lets cc a lot to block healing"

[grave pier]

ok i think i am just struggling to figure out who cc's who in our "goes"

[jolly sierra]

healer

i've told you hours ago

[potent pivot]

its not that its impossible

[jolly sierra]

...

[grave pier]

sorry bro, our 3's sesh ended so just thinking 🙂

but ok i'll kidney healer

[spring bough]

love joining a 5 person solo shuffle for the immediate leave match

[keen canopy]

yeah if you can have your frost mage prep a burst
and then if you can hit the healer with a cc chain thats like 10+ seconds long
that's a win right there

[jolly sierra]

smoke bomb in a non trinket target

[grave pier]

yh i mean i also start off the game with a blind too

either on healer or off target

[jolly sierra]

you kidney > smoke bomb, deathmark and envenoms from your part and then your mage bursts him

at same time

after he did the poly on healer

[jolly sierra]

don't blind

at start

just cheap shot

instead

[grave pier]

gotchya

[jolly sierra]

what if you record one of your games

[grave pier]

i've tkane ntoes so will focus.

[jolly sierra]

and we finish this matter?

[grave pier]

yh deffo

[jolly sierra]

send it here

i gotta take a shower

[grave pier]

yeye i'll have to do it later since we are off now

but appreciate it

[spring bough]

bout to level a UDK

we going full meta S3

[keen canopy]

never liked unholy

frost and blood i can get behind

not too fond of playing unholy

[outer sky]

Yeah its about the same as with not using Inevitable End. Except it delays the burst so theres more time for the enemy team to react to it.

Envenom is just too slow

Like you can get peeled on your kingsbane and the window you popped it in is gone now

It wasn't working for me at least

[pliant lintel]

the best advice i can give you is watch a streamer play rmp, Whaazz normally streams it every night, watch 1 game but ignore everything apart from enemy DR tracker & defensives and listen to the comms and try to understand what's going on and how they set up

[hollow carbon]

will come tomorrow i think

[pliant lintel]

At the gamescon event they said midnight alpha was out in a few weeks, So I presume they been busy sorting that out

[grave pier]

how do i make this

not spam thistle tea

[pliant lintel]

Put !Thistle Tea

[gleaming sentinel]

assa deev seems like such a good comp for me

no brain just slam dam

[sharp sierra]

try balance/sin

it honestly blows through more comps than it should lol

[gleaming sentinel]

my friend plays dev, thats what i got for now

[sharp sierra]

this week is dumb easy to hit conq cap, BTs, and honor

win 1 bg for the crafting things, if you win first bg it doesnt matter if you win or lose second youll auto finish that 1500 honor in bg quests

i got lucky and did ashran EBG quests first try as well

sparks quest, then do crates till cap

the bg part is random and if youre horde, GL otherwise you can skip that and just do crates if you have the time

[molten hedge]

I played assa boomie with my friends ln and beat a r1 Cupid (zozo and his friends) team. It cranked and my assa isn’t even that good haha

[spring bough]

this holy pally name is "Afkadin"

and he has been AFK this whole solo lobby

[dark kernel]

That's a badass guy

[spring bough]

wish me luck first lobby on outlaw since i got DH to 1900 lol

yup outlaws retired for the season DH it is lmao

[outer sky]

man

I wish we just had a regular cooldown

like everyone else

why cant blizzard just design one

"press X and you do Y amount more damage for Z amount of time"

[spring bough]

DH got like 10 of them

[outer sky]

instead we have to rely on trying to gib people in a single global

[spring bough]

yeah let me get 20 coins stacked rq so i can gett a KB

[outer sky]

This shit is literally the most trash concept in the game besides maybe the existance of frost mages

its such a terrible button

[keen canopy]

true

[outer sky]

like im literally just sitting here right now getting mad about it lol

like

fix this shit

[stoic spruce]

Me when my bleed spec makes bleed more bleedy :O

[spring bough]

maybe sin will get a rework with outlaw.... maybe

[outer sky]

like the biggest value i get from my offensive CD is being able to hold it so the evoker/surv hunter will hold their cleanse

and then they cleanse so i press deathmark and it gets dwarf racial'd off

like come on blizzard

get

it

togetheer

what is this shit

[sharp sierra]

W

[stoic spruce]

Wish I was here all the time to catch the people who want to pick up outlaw in tww s3

And tell them don't do it and play a spec that does damage