pvp

[dark kernel]

Put the rating in the bag blizzard

https://tenor.com/view/work-socks-sponebob-covering-face-krusty-krab-gif-4904461045554547636

[vocal surge]

Assa gets nerfed before Outlaw

[dark kernel]

Ret utility is the bullshit. I don't want to see a ret with fucking searing glare, sanctuary, and repent

[vocal surge]

That's my call

[spring bough]

Sin does more damage than me some lobbies

[dark kernel]

I honestly think fatebound will be nerfed for BOTH specs

Because Assa fate is drawing attention too

[spring bough]

How tho its tier

What are they gonna change the bonus lol

[dark kernel]

Remove the coin damage buff again

[spring bough]

Nah that’s dumb I’m out if they do that lol

I just want one season where nothings fixed and they leave it till next expansion

[dark kernel]

Maybe it's our tim

[spring bough]

Whose got an addon that refreshes for blue post changes 😂

[tight hill]

ive not got tier, but assa feels the same last season except even squishier

[spring bough]

Fatebound sin pumps crazy

[tight hill]

will try it

still playing deathstalker atm

[vocal surge]

Sin can deal over double what Outlaw does in a stun window

And have extra for overkill

[tight hill]

are ppl running kingsbane with tier then? 10% dmg still seemed like it would suck

or envenom and coin procs for burst

[spring bough]

Plus sin 100% always procs sudden demise and that shit minimally hitting for 1.5m up to 3mil

[spring bough]

Prob just bone spike still lol

[vocal surge]

Kingsbane required to use Tier coins

[spring bough]

Didn’t realize that was their ghostly for the tier then yeah they using it lol

Honestly the fate sin bonuses seem nasty lol

[stoic spruce]

I blame van for getting nerfed

[spring bough]

We aren’t getting nerfed if we do ima stop by blizz HQ

[stoic spruce]

his logic is "but other specs are worse offenders" as if thats stopped blizz before

[spring bough]

Yeah remember last season DH was op we said they’d get nerfed then blizz went “5% overall inc” and they were even more busted

[stoic spruce]

I dont remember that but I believe it

[dark kernel]

I unironically need you to sandbag a minute Van

I will be honest, WW Monks are also still mega bullshit damage

[spring bough]

Yeah but we can kill them ez just gotta make sure evasion and cloak at the right time and grip out of that stupid fists

Never get hit by the fists lol

[vocal surge]

They got fists

But we got hands (and coins)

[spring bough]

Coins go bbbbrrrrrrttttttt

[grave basin]

Ayo

[spring bough]

Can’t believe it only took 3 seasons for fate to provide kill pressure

[stoic spruce]

can one of yall play on my account and gear for me

I forgot to farm honor

[spring bough]

Ayo wonder why u playing WW 🤔

[grave basin]

It's aite

[spring bough]

We should do outlaw 3s we will get u conquest fast

[grave basin]

[spring bough]

Gladiator fatebound 3s Inc

[vocal surge]

XD

[grave basin]

I like how no one outside this discord knows about outlaw fb

I haven't seen a single post anywhere

Need to wait for more fotmers

[stoic spruce]

who actually wants to play outlaw in pvp with the way it is though

only die hards

[vocal surge]

The forums are asking for Outlaw buffs

[tight hill]

blizz talent api is down, so can't see peoples talents properly on murlok

is quite nice actually i think

[vocal surge]

Aye

[stoic spruce]

the rb nerf may have put us under the radar ngl

[spring bough]

That’s good we keep it that way

Ima log out in trickster talents so murlok doesn’t know

[grave basin]

True

[stoic spruce]

fr

nice cook

[vocal surge]

Real

[grave basin]

Everyone else just uses trickster wondering where damage

[spring bough]

Pin it 😂

[grave basin]

Guys how come I can't do 10m ina global

[vocal surge]

Duplicity & Deception

[stoic spruce]

if I werent in such an FPS mood I'd be playing Outlaw rn

[spring bough]

Go play outlaw

[grave basin]

Popo not playing outlaw when it's good

Not playing outlaw when it's bad

[spring bough]

I’m serious about 3 outlaws doing 3s

[stoic spruce]

its called a tactical rerolling

[dark kernel]

Why is it that every morning is like Rogue pirate corner

Like 6 outlaw rogues

[vocal surge]

[dark kernel]

Podcast hour

[spring bough]

Cause I’m at work and FOMOd from wow

[stoic spruce]

buff outlaw and make it 10x more complicated

[dark kernel]

Same

[spring bough]

KIR roll rules and new vanish rules with fate confuse me already

I just listen to the WA to reroll for KIR lmao

[vocal surge]

I brute force my 6 buff on KIR

XD

[spring bough]

Fishing for buffs is fun

[grave basin]

I took leave for 2 days and I regret playing more than 1 toon

Just takes way too long to get going

[spring bough]

Spam dispatch till you CTOd the fk up to 6. Hit KIR. Instantly reroll to 6 refreshed

[vocal surge]

Tru

[stoic spruce]

can the timewalking weekly give you tier

[grave basin]

No

[stoic spruce]

lame

[spring bough]

Yeah my main acct is alt now for this season for both PvP and pve…. Rip to my mog and mount collection

[grave basin]

But you get hero gear from the kill Yog quest

[vocal surge]

Skull n Crossbones, Broadsides, and True Bearing

GG

KIR --> RTB

[spring bough]

It can give u the cloak boosting boots 🔥

[grave basin]

Go join a Yog skip group

[spring bough]

Cloak pops off for me in pvp with the boots

[grave basin]

And ask them to share questions

[spring bough]

Could get hero level boosting boots for the cloak before even raid lol

[grave basin]

quests

[spring bough]

Hero is 40% inc chance and the mythic one is 50%

[stoic spruce]

fine I'll hop on WoW

damn

[grave basin]

my main is also scuffed now with 2x champion cause i didnt use laquer

[spring bough]

Somehow I’m gonna try to LFG that boss down the road. And when turbo boost hits if u have the kill just buy the boots

[gusty hedge]

boots?

[spring bough]

Yeah the champ level inc cloak effectiveness 30%

[grave basin]

i got hero head piece though

so atleast that's something

[stoic spruce]

your mom gives hero head

[spring bough]

Then hero is 40% and mythic is 50% inc effectiveness

[grave basin]

prayge for hero gloves/pants

[gusty hedge]

ooof means i gotta pve again😭

[grave basin]

she learnt from yours

[spring bough]

Tell yours thanks

[stoic spruce]

if I get a weapon or trinket from weekly im gonna cry

[spring bough]

Yee

[grave basin]

youll get a belt or cape

[halcyon field]

Hi, do u have talents for solo shuffle pls ? for an outlaw

[grave basin]

it begins

[stoic spruce]

I just need any piece of tier gear

[grave basin]

here we have a lone rogue asking for 10m coin shitting tech

[stoic spruce]

you nerds better learn how to sandbag

[spring bough]

Idk what that is

All I see is this dudes a hunter

[grave basin]

it's obviously trickster ?

[halcyon field]

sandbag ?

[spring bough]

Hunters have a disc too

[stoic spruce]

GET OFF MY SPEC

im just gatekeeping

[grave basin]

you havent even logged on

[stoic spruce]

the pve build is fine

I cant skip

gonna kick a baby or something i stg

[grave basin]

has your main done 3/5 compaign

[stoic spruce]

yes

[grave basin]

talked to hashim?

upgraded cloak?

[stoic spruce]

yes

yes

[grave basin]

get fucked then

[dark kernel]

Do you farm out buffs before trying to send vanish btw

[stoic spruce]

ON GOD I HOPE THEY NERF YOUR FAVORITE SPEC AND YOU GET INFINITE DCS

[spring bough]

Not really. If adrenaline is off CD and vanish has less than 45 seconds on CD I will save adrenaline to use it during vanish

[grave basin]

so nerf frost mages

got it

[stoic spruce]

DONT CRINGE MY GATEKEEPING

IT KEEPS THINGS HEALTHY

I got 13k honor

[dark kernel]

I see. I think I'm just shit with fatebound KiR because I'm used to HO trickster, and the opener feels a lot weeker

[stoic spruce]

we gucci

[grave basin]

blud cant even get past the campaign

[stoic spruce]

blowing you up with my mind rn

[dark kernel]

Since we're just doing crack window and I'm not sending KS blindly in opener

So I don't get CCd

[grave basin]

i like how everyone ignored the guy asking for build

HAHAHA

[stoic spruce]

I told him to use the pve build

[grave basin]

im not outlaw main so it's not on me

[spring bough]

That’s enough to gear out. I recommend u buy honor rings/neck but DONT EQUIP. It will give u the ilvl to que solo. Win a game. Craft rings/neck conquest and sell back the honor ones to get ur honor back

[grave basin]

wtf is pve build

why would you play pve build with no gouge

pve build meaning st? m+?

[stoic spruce]

well

in shuffle theres only 3 targets

[spring bough]

Do NOT adrenaline before stealth. Just cheap an opener and hit adrenaline with ghostly. Macro ghostly to adrenaline

[jaunty osprey]

Go to the NPC with the cloak, that’s what I had to do

Looks like they moved the skip

[grave basin]

NOOOO just let him do the whole thing

come on mang

[stoic spruce]

will try that thank you

[dark kernel]

I was wondering about this. As fatebound you have to AR next to the enemy to proc coin damage right?

[spring bough]

Damn u gotta let Popo look first lol

[stoic spruce]

:O\

[spring bough]

You need to target the enemy. If u pop adrenaline without an enemy targeted u waste coins

[grave basin]

popo about to load his guns

[stoic spruce]

im bouta put a cylinder in a tube

[dark kernel]

Yeah that's what I figured but I wanted to confirm. I was wondering this last night, ty

[spring bough]

Never adrenaline without an enemy targeted as fatebound

[vocal surge]

^

[dark kernel]

Because it's CS + AR/ghostly + dispatch that procs the big coins

[spring bough]

U can use the cancel aura macro to fish another coin proc. I haven’t been using it tho and it’s been fine

[jaunty osprey]

NO ONE IN THIS CHANNEL USES THEIR EYES

so gotta help him out

[gusty hedge]

@spring bough shheeesh nice

[spring bough]

I just used adrenaline and ghostly macro. Ghostly is macros on all my abilities

[dark kernel]

I have that too

[stoic spruce]

IT WASNT THERE BEFORE AND THEY NEVER SAID IT CAHNGED

[spring bough]

Bro it’s on ur map

[stoic spruce]

why tf would I look at my map

when

its SUPPOSE to be at that other dude

[spring bough]

Because it’s blizzard

[stoic spruce]

and there was enver a post

about it moving

I'd win in court

im putting mastery in my cloak f u

[spring bough]

Might wanna do haste or verse boss

[stoic spruce]

nope

u did this

[vocal surge]

Would you do some crit?

[stoic spruce]

I got a meme on my phone im too lazy to look for and its homeless squidward going "Spare crit sir?"

[spring bough]

Honestly I got so much verse and haste might put crit on cape

[stoic spruce]

what ilvl can our cape be

[spring bough]

714 this week and 730 is max in what 2 weeks?

[stoic spruce]

how did yall complete this?

[spring bough]

By phase diving

[stoic spruce]

im ignoring that

how did yall complete it while phase diving

[spring bough]

Activities

[vocal surge]

Find Phase Dive device

Do phase diving WQ

Profit

[stoic spruce]

you know whats funny

on my dk

I went to a WQ

thinking they were all phase diving WQs

and

I just now realized

I went to probably the only one that wasnt phase diving

so I went there

found out I couldnt do it phase diving, logged off, and did something else

getting old

[spring bough]

Just read the quests bro

[stoic spruce]

I did

I just didnt realize the WQ titles specified PW and not PW

[dark kernel]

Hmmm

Do we play bloody token boots, or get pants potentially to turn later

[stoic spruce]

KS does insane dmg

lowkey glad its not prio

[spring bough]

I went token wep gonna get dagger on Tuesday and have early upgraded weps

[spring bough]

10mil finisher after forcing 10mil in coins is amazing

[stoic spruce]

im not getting ace procs

WORK DAMN YOU

[spring bough]

Is it talented

I hope u get 2pc fast and can experience the coin KBs

[stoic spruce]

ME TOO

(i WON'T)

caps

[spring bough]

I believe in u

[stoic spruce]

dude

I bet casuals are having so much fun rn

[spring bough]

We can carry you in 3s later

Gotta push that gladiator title if outlaw gonna be this good

[stoic spruce]

oooooooooooo world gear looks good

I doubt whatever set it belongs to looks good on undead lol

thats weird

sometimes KS barely does any damage

[vocal surge]

Got some glads that want to play 3s with me xD

[dark kernel]

I got a healer, just need a dps

[stoic spruce]

biiiiiiiiiig lag

[stoic spruce]

are you opening with that pve macro

[vocal surge]

Yall lagging as well?

[vocal surge]

I do Cheap Shot --> Payload (AR, Ghostly Strike, BTE/Dispatch)

[spring bough]

No because it negates the crackshot window

[stoic spruce]

HO/SC with the new KS is probably the greatest Outlaw build ever ngl

gonna cry when I get new tier and have to delete it

[vocal surge]

X)

[stoic spruce]

its not even a real build

just a build pre current tier bonus

this new bank system kinda aint it ngl

more storage sure but its implemented weird

[hoary spade]

Is there a rule of thumb for when to vanish and spread improved garrotes?

[stoic spruce]

dang

I'm a little worried to go too heavy with haste

hmmmm

technically

haste has 0 value over 25%

perfect

[stoic spruce]

link build

[spring bough]

I dropped verse for Stam

[stoic spruce]

I took crit dagger

[dark kernel]

I'm proud of you

[stoic spruce]

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

this dude

[vocal surge]

XD

[stoic spruce]

for every talent I have to manually unclick and apply

thats 10 lashings

well

I got gear

now what?

im going to queue a solo shuffle and if I dont get a queue in 2 minutes im logging off

after I pee

I know how that works

wait 10 mins and it queues when you pee

[trail nacelle]

were u running double outlaw 2s yesterday 😭

or diff vancleef

[stoic spruce]

the only pvp quest I can never seem to complete

[acoustic junco]

I just had a bit of a chuckle, there's not even 100 outlaw rogues who've done shuffle yet

[stoic spruce]

theres about to be +1

I immediately change my mind

[gleaming sentinel]

Patch has been out 2 days lol

[waxen meteor]

why?

this is probably the easiest

I almost never do the epic bg one

[stoic spruce]

also takes the longest

[waxen meteor]

that's just horrible

especially most of my characters are on horde side

[stoic spruce]

by the time you complete the ebg quest, youre barely halfway done with the shuffle quest

[grave basin]

not me

it was @spring bough

[waxen meteor]

tbh, outlaw is probably the spec i know least now in the game lol

i feel ashamed as a rogue

but this spec seems changing every season

sometimes it's slow cook, sometimes it has burst, sometimes it never dies

[stoic spruce]

amazing

[trail nacelle]

Ahh okay I was gonna ask how it ended up going, they almost 1 shot me in opener but ended up i winning 😋 was insane dmg tho

[stoic spruce]

its a very unique spec for sure

even when its slow its still fast

[acoustic junco]

Didn't stop sub/ sin or other specs having more than 100 ppl queue. It's just clarity on the priority of outlaw. Note, this is just 1 set of queuing

[waxen meteor]

what to watch against outlaw now for their burst

most of other specs at least i know what's incoming

[stoic spruce]

the best thing you can do is not give us uptime

[waxen meteor]

for outlaw, now i sort of know nothing pff

[stoic spruce]

if he's crackshot, root, cc, whatever and get away

[waxen meteor]

watching the clip they posted as double law, i actually didn't know what was going on

just saw 1283102831208 coins on ground

[stoic spruce]

oh we have double grapple now

yeah its wild

[waxen meteor]

that's fine, but what's a significant sign of burst coming

[stoic spruce]

it doesnt really have one

not that I can think of off hand

the rogue becomes translucent

thats about it

[dark kernel]

We vanish

[stoic spruce]

a sign

vanish isnt a huge tell when we IMMEDIATELY break stealth

[waxen meteor]

I will probably run my off rogue on law this season

[stoic spruce]

disarming ret does nothing

why must I learn things the hard way

[spring bough]

It was me and Verm

Did we smoke yall? Sorry 😭

[spring bough]

Is this a gun or a mace

[stoic spruce]

a mun

[spring bough]

Damn. Did we have u sweating atleast? Lol

[trail nacelle]

yea i was in vc with my partner like no way this comp works right? then we blow all of our cds 😭

how’d ur session end up going?

we’re pretty high mmr players so i’d assume well ❤️

[spring bough]

we both got over rival. He’s back with his other 2s partner and I’ve been slamming shuffle since. 2185 in shuffle lol

We wanna try 2 outlaw 1 sin for 3s though. Or with a healer. Could be wicked

[waxen meteor]

not entirely true

it doesn't do TOO much

but it does sth

disarmed ret cannot use finishers

but finishers are not main source of their dmg anymore, it's still one of the biggest dmg from ret though

they just have other globals that can do lots of dmg too

[stoic spruce]

Obviously it does something

Where my message go

[waxen meteor]

now ret main dmg is the yellow line thingy

[stoic spruce]

Tarny

You're part of why I hate generalizing

[waxen meteor]

[spring bough]

Are u elite yet

[trail nacelle]

nice gl with the climb 🫡

[waxen meteor]

tbh, it's kinda funny

because when i play dh/ret, i hate being disarmed, but when i play rogue against dh/ret, i don't equip disarm for them lol

like everyone says to not go disarm dh, because they use Glimpse, disarm is gone, but reality is Glimpse can be on cd and it's mostly used right before burst

[spring bough]

Where’d yall end at?

[abstract stratus]

I had a shuffle game last night with an outlaw and the 2 rounds we were together were GROSS

[dark kernel]

I played a game with a sin rogue once last night at like 1850

Fuckers still hurt.

[trail nacelle]

1700cr , 2200+mmr 😄

surv abuser but i’ve played it for years

[spring bough]

Wait u were one of the survivals with a healer? GD wildfire bombs scare me lol

I think we only took out one survival/healer out of probably ten or so we saw lol

[spring bough]

Outlaw and sin together is a fever dream. Coins push them low enough and the BAM sudden demise pops

[trail nacelle]

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Moon Guard/Hoto

meow

i might pick up outlaw again

it was a lot of fun but i haven’t played it since sl

feel like that’s the next thing to survival right

or dh

[spring bough]

It feels like I’m back in SL outlaw again blasting

[trail nacelle]

luv to hear it

[abstract stratus]

Do you guys weave pistol shot in between your bte spam or ambush? I feel like both feel a bit clunky

[jaunty osprey]

Sinister strike if KIR

ambush/SS if HO

pistol shot when you have procs

There’s a lot of optimizations - but that’s a general rule

you can use pistol shot when you have opportunity procs if you dont have energy to ambush if you’re HO

if KIR, you should cast pistol shot only when under 3 CP

or less if you have broadside or fan the hammer up and etc etc

a lot of lil rules/optimizations

[abstract stratus]

I have a potato brain,
What does kir and ho stand for lol

[stoic spruce]

keep it rolling and hidden oppurtunity

[stoic spruce]

dont EVER compare the beauty and magnificence of SL to this horrid being we call Outlaw

[spring bough]

Yeah bro it’s fucking amazing

I love outlaw fatebound rn

[spring bough]

Keep it rolling and hidden opportunity

[stoic spruce]

fr

anything past that will be okay at best

[spring bough]

With KIR there’s def energy starved moments lol

But the coin burst makes up for it

[stoic spruce]

there wasnt kir in SL

[spring bough]

If u play 30% haste like me it isn’t bad lol

Yeah tiers gonna fuck with our stats lol

[stoic spruce]

you get too much haste with honor gear

[spring bough]

I recreated my rings to crit last night. Went from 36% haste to like 22% haste and my crits up to 25% or so

[stoic spruce]

okay

that doesnt matter

I got enough haste on ptr

haste will be fine

[spring bough]

Crafted rings/neck gonna carry outlaw stats this season in full conquest lol

Don’t forget the Reshi cape we can go crit verse or haste depending on other stats too. We got options

[stoic spruce]

theres no need...

[spring bough]

For?

[stoic spruce]

doing all that for haste

you get enough even with tier

[dark moon]

with new killing spree?

[stoic spruce]

1 trick but ks, coins, and bte all can land kills

thats lowkey how its been since the talent revamp

if you find FB boring then you find Outlaw boring

its completely passive

yeah very not fun at times

like last season

[spring bough]

How? I sit in the craziest burst with defensives and still live. Then just keep cranking and wait for a nice vanish adrenaline window to kill someone ez

[dark stump]

for the legion TF do i just do the dungeon till idrop the bracer?

[potent pivot]

gotta at least try it yes

[vocal surge]

@spring bough

[spring bough]

Yeee

[spring bough]

3mil what

How?

[vocal surge]

20

stacks

of Tails

[tight hill]

poor guy thought he was invisible

[vocal surge]

I feel that in my core

[spring bough]

Insane

[spring bough]

Luck for the entire season gone in one game

[spring bough]

Lmaooo been there before

[tight hill]

yeeeep... much funner when its on the other team

[dark kernel]

Never forget DK abom un stealth

From like 100 yards aware

[spring bough]

Why does EU ratings inflate so much

[dark kernel]

Think they have more active players from the get go

Look at China numbees

[dark stump]

inflate?

fck this game

[jaunty osprey]

Dont open with cheap shot

btw lol

[tight hill]

yh i usually ss rupture

but if theres something better lmk

[jaunty osprey]

Ya, just wasted a whole go/opener on that guy because no mark applied

SS is fine

[tight hill]

any tips for capping a base off a ret with all CDs and trinket

do they have too many cds if we have double vanish?

[jaunty osprey]

Kidney cap -> if he trinkets

blind -> cap

if he bops, reset till you can sap cap

[tight hill]

oh so dont try first with sap... hmm

[jaunty osprey]

Well

ya u can sap cap

sap -> cap

Trinkets

Kidney -> cap

Bop

Blind -> cap when bop fades

if he bubbles, reset and sap cap

or kidney cap again

but sap cap should never work cause

they should never stand next to the base

[tight hill]

yh idk, im not high mmr in blitz so...

i was sap blinding, but sap kidney then save blind for bop is goooooood ty

bop will stop blind wont it...

yh physical, nvm just gotta wait it out still

[dark stump]

how dangerous it's?

[spring bough]

Oh see u on the floor

[dark stump]

they were dumb to come at me 1v1

[spring bough]

Ahhhh they tried the ole “think u got him? Sure I’ll go”

[dark stump]

i play herald so the dot stop them from going invisible

[stoic spruce]

the classic "Wait until 100% damp and win on opener"

thats why I said the other day that double rogue was the best comp for 2s

you cant counter double rogue at 100% damp lol

[spring bough]

Cause coins gonna smash faces in

[stoic spruce]

im being a bodyguard while my friend quests and unlocks the cloak

and

KS in wpvp is a literal nuke

[dark kernel]

They changed eye though to be visible through walls

[stoic spruce]

thats fine

still an undefeated strat

should be bigger tbh

[spring bough]

I wish I could call in sick tomorrow and play all day but I got a client schedule 😭

[dark kernel]

What is ur field

[tight hill]

the suspense when you're 4-0 in solo shuffle now.. you're either going 4-2 or 6-0 depending on that teammate

[dark kernel]

Y'all notice now that as DPS we end up switching to two two with the other DS

Dps

So rather than going 0-3 with healer

Its 0-2 with the deadweight

Or you're the dead weight

[tight hill]

yeah, im not sure i like it, but its better than getting 3 rounds with a healer going 0 then he ragequits

[dark stump]

my luck is good

[spring bough]

Auditing

[stoic spruce]

you know whats crazy

the moment a second person is in range

KS is completely useless 90% of the time

[dark kernel]

I'm really curious how math works when hitting targets with blade flurry up

[stoic spruce]

wdym

[dark kernel]

For example, if your cone or killing spree is hitting 2 targets, but you have flurry up, is damage from target 1 banking to target 2 and vice versa WHILE each target also takes the full extent of damage

Like is it mulitplied

Because it's banking between them

[spring bough]

I only use KS when adrenaline, and vanish is all on CD

[dark kernel]

I can't confirm yet, but it may go through die by the sword

[stoic spruce]

its a ST ability

[dark kernel]

I had a few wars fall over during it

[stoic spruce]

that hits random target

[dark kernel]

So it has 0 interaction with blade flurry?

[stoic spruce]

it flurries

but t

[dark kernel]

I get it

[stoic spruce]

youre target only gets 45% of it if the other is hit

[dark kernel]

One shot will hit target 1, 50% damage to target 2, then shot 2 hits target 2 and target 1 gets the cleave

[stoic spruce]

yes

it doesnt have a prio target

mad annoying

[tight hill]

pets soak it aswell i believe

[stoic spruce]

yeah

[dark stump]

did u guys tried assa and sub in ss ? or pvp in general?

[gleaming sentinel]

Yea pet classes just make spree useless

[stoic spruce]

went against a lock and a rdruid and all it did was waste globals

[waxen meteor]

Damn you guys are fast

I have done only 30 games, 5 lobbies so far

[spring bough]

Damn chill out I’m not off work for an hour

[dark kernel]

I have massive WoW fomo right now

[vocal surge]

Is it because of how fast we're all zoomin'?

[dark kernel]

Yeah I only played 3 shuffles last night and one of them was dog shit.

I'm like 567 rated

[vocal surge]

Ah

[topaz delta]

Which seems yo be performing better in shuffle between sin and sub?

[spring bough]

Outlaw

[tight hill]

sin... and Vancleef on outlaw

I've played a bit of sin + sub and tbh sub was feeling better. I mained sin last season though so maybe i'm burnt out on it

[dark stump]

ok i quit pve

[dark stump]

what website is it?

[tight hill]

https://drustvar.com/leaderboard/solo?region=us&sortby=rank

[dark stump]

welcome to another supa list

[keen canopy]

is this pve or what

i mean i assume because it has tanks

[dark stump]

nop

pvp easiest to play

[manic steppe]

is there a place where i can find a assa pvp build

[jolly sierra]

assa hard and strong rlly?

assa is easy af

[dark stump]

imagine doing pve and three tier gear drop and u get nothing

[keen canopy]

yeah assa i would say is the easiest rogue spec

[dark stump]

hmm

i don't agree

[keen canopy]

what you think sub is easier

i mean i can see that

but i dont agree

[dark stump]

assa need to keep his dot on everyone
sub need to keep his stun on everyone

[jolly sierra]

assa IS the easiest rog spec

the difference is not for lazy ppl

that is all

[waxen meteor]

I played 3 dots spec last season

Sin + SP + Affl

Call me dotttting machine

[potent pivot]

difficulty can vary from person to person, it is what it is

[waxen meteor]

@potent pivot about discussion yesterday, how does tier set work consuming additional stack when you already have only 1 stack left?

[potent pivot]

not 100% sure

[waxen meteor]

that's why I didn't even comment on that part yet..

3-2, 2-1 sure...

but if 1 becomes 0....

shiv + big finisher becomes a reset stack..

[potent pivot]

i don't think its gonna matter

all of s3's tier sets are stronger than s1/s2 tier sets and they're nerfed by less in pvp than s1/s2 sets

they are legit no brainers this season, just equip

[spring bough]

Bro ranks outlaw dead last because he couldn’t get elite with it. I hate that shit lol

“Hard and weak” 😂 😂 😂

[dark stump]

what conq do i buy with rogue ? outlaw?

[potent pivot]

i mean, it was pretty terrible last season, lets be real

[dark stump]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-point-debate-argument-angel-gif-17274775

[potent pivot]

chest/shoulders

[vocal surge]

Let us buy the illusion of weak

[dark stump]

for outlaw ? tought shoulder were to skip?

[potent pivot]

no

shoulders are skipped by assa/sub

[dark stump]

oh ok

[spring bough]

Yeah it was brutal but now it’s not

[potent pivot]

we'll see

[gleaming sentinel]

Shhh

[potent pivot]

i'm not convinced until everyone has 4p

[potent pivot]

these are prolly the tier pieces outlaw will use

2 of em are gonna have meh stats regardless, but chest/shoulders are aight

[dark stump]

do i have to lower something here ? i freeze to much in ebg

[jolly sierra]

get a SSD

[dark stump]

i already have one

[spring bough]

lobby i had last night. dragon damage goes crazy but he only won 2 rounds lol

i chased dude around the map when he wasnt on my team def made him hate rogue

[jolly sierra]

what about the graphic card? i have an integrated and doesn't mess up that much

i play like this

graphic section

[spring bough]

an outlaw and two subs vs a sin and sub in twin peaks blitz

[waxen meteor]

Haha I had a 5 rogue blitz yesterday too

[spring bough]

yeah im done with blitz people just doing whatever they want 0 team stuff going on

drop flag for evo he waits till enemy sham comes up and returns then blames me

like bro u had 3 whole seconds to click the flag and carry it

[waxen meteor]

Blitz indeed is quite random

[spring bough]

2 locks on my team fought mid all lobby

and sat there and died went back to mid

[waxen meteor]

I think even at 2800 mmr you still have random brain dead people

[spring bough]

2-2 blitz this week and no more for me lol

[waxen meteor]

I did 1-1 losing game has a quiter

It’s also stupid if your team has a whiter game just went on

I won the 5 rogue game though lol

I got 3 rogue side

[spring bough]

is it reportable when a priest doesnt take BOP off

feel like it should be. like bro press ur button so we can kill this guy lol

[stoic spruce]

let me know when yall see it

[spring bough]

uhhhhh

is that real

or AI

[stoic spruce]

legion remix is on ptr

theres like

no reason to play outlaw

because

main CD

does what your toolkit already does

[spring bough]

good rets are BEYOND broken

this ret overall lobby is disgusting

overall is left details and the right is the last round

[stoic spruce]

I can roleplay!!!!

please

[spring bough]

this ret did 40mil more ST than me last round LOL

[inland thorn]

@spring bough I'm gonna need the talent build big bro

[spring bough]

its just the ST fatebound KIR build pretty much

[inland thorn]

You go haste/vers?

[vocal surge]

Bruh

I got DC'd

Blizzard said

"YEP! -72 rating"

Trash ass game

[spring bough]

21 crit 28 haste 35 verse

[spring bough]

yeah thats when stuff breaks around me lol

[vocal surge]

Worst part

I cant even stun that game

Everyone getting mass DR'd

because warrior spamming Bolt and Shockwave

or Paladin's HoJing/Priest Stun (I got an hpriest)

[spring bough]

i just had 4 que pops and they all declined lol

[vocal surge]

then hunter spams the Binding Shot

then to top it off, on an already looking 0-6 game

DC

[outer sky]

shuffle feels really weird rn

half the matches feel totally unwinnbale

the other half feel like i cant lose

theres no middle ground

[gleaming sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[spring bough]

outlaw and sin

should marry each other in 2s and 3s

it feels incredible

[waxen meteor]

just need rsham to put all enemy together

And hell cleave mode

[spring bough]

coins push sudden demise every time lol

[jaunty osprey]

Assa coin

[spring bough]

yeah FB sin slaps

[jaunty osprey]

There is fatebound tech to super cheese someone as assa

[spring bough]

this dude copped some KBs

[jaunty osprey]

just ensure you have tails already

And then blow vanish

[spring bough]

looks like kingsbane KBs are back baby

[jaunty osprey]

next 2 will be tails

Then kingsbane deathmark etc

[spring bough]

coin did his 3rd overall at 61mil dmg and was doing 1.7mil normal and 1.8mil crits on coin

[waxen meteor]

Probably pick the death mark expire for 30% more KB dmg hero talent too)

[jaunty osprey]

nah cause

You can play fatebound coldblood

which makes ur next 2 envenoms crit

and fatebound doesnt get the nature damage

Death mark thing

[spring bough]

have u tried it yet? feel like ud be 100% to 0 people with fatebound lol

[waxen meteor]

Oh yeah it’s fatebound now

[jaunty osprey]

Ive tried but you do lose a lot of rot

[waxen meteor]

I am picturing that in my head with tier set for a while lol

[spring bough]

i feel like with 4 set it could be wicked?

esp with the CD reduction on mark and KB

[waxen meteor]

Fatebound tier really looks good to me

[spring bough]

so many kill windows

[waxen meteor]

Yep

Every go must have KB or DM

[spring bough]

i feel like once i get 4 set im gonna 2x the amounts of adernaline i hit which will just lead to 6-7 more coin procs every time

and more ghostly which every hit more flips too

[waxen meteor]

@jaunty osprey which talent do you give up for cold blood though

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

idk what addon but something added a button to my cloak on the character pane which u can click to upgrade lol

[sharp sierra]

turn aa off and use resharpen

multisample is pretty harsh in bgs

and turn off MS alpha test

[jaunty osprey]

Deeper strat and alacrity unfortunately

[outer sky]

the problem is thats CDR on shit that does practically nothing. It should be CDR on vanish. then it would be worth it

ofc blizzard screwed that up

[jaunty osprey]

It’s amazing for PVE

[spring bough]

imagine if sin had KB on a finisher cdr

[jaunty osprey]

this game isn’t designed for pvp

[gleaming pawn]

It would feel so bad, because Sin doesn’t have the energy economy for that

[waxen meteor]

True many spec becomes pvp dominated for a while simply from a pve ride

[outer sky]

@spring bough how do you gear for outlaw? Im going to make 1 of my 3 rogues outlaw for the start of the season at least

[spring bough]

at minimum for KIR need 19% haste, then rest is just crit and verse

HO would be like 13-15 haste or so

[outer sky]

is KIR the play though or are you theorycrafting?

[spring bough]

feels like its the play it has pretty good kill pressure with adrenaline/stealth windows

HO does work with it too though

feels like its up there with KIR

[outer sky]

what if I'm disarmed and CCd on AR

does it feel horrible

[spring bough]

i usually just pump pistols and hit a BTE if i can but yeah it does lol

[outer sky]

and HO is probably not as bad

in that respect

because I remember you trying really hard to make KiR work for a while now

so i wonder if its actually better or if you just want it to be

[spring bough]

HO will feel good but if u get good with KIR it will be better a majority of the time. just gotta get used to the roll rules and fishing for those 5-6 buffs to KIR

once u get a 5-6 KIR, HO has nothing on it

[outer sky]

are other people playing KiR?

[spring bough]

@vocal surge is

not sure about any other outlaws lol

[outer sky]

is this new for this season or were y'all playing KiR last season too?

[spring bough]

i been swapping back n forth between the two since S1

[outer sky]

what have most people been playing

[spring bough]

started KIR at the end of S1 did it half of S2 maybe more than that. most play HO

[potent pivot]

its mostly been HO during s1 and s2

[outer sky]

alright and @spring bough do we play trickster until we get 4pc?

[spring bough]

FB the second u get 2pc

can prob play it without too

[outer sky]

ok

i'll have 2pc pretty quick

[potent pivot]

i guess blizzard borked the talent API

lovely

[outer sky]

what happened now

[potent pivot]

nothin really

talents just don't seem to be showing on armory or anything that has anything to do with the armory

[stoic spruce]

:D

I miss when each spec felt like a different class

[jolly sierra]

dude i died in 1s

lit

[waxen meteor]

Damn these tier PvP upgrade thing is annoying

I have to do many dungeons again this week

[outer sky]

huh?

what pvp upgrade thing

the cloak?

you get the currency from pvp too

[gleaming pawn]

He means the things that upgrade regular tier to pvp ilvl

[jaunty osprey]

KIR is simply better than HO even in PVE now

just harder to play in arena per se

[manic steppe]

@jaunty osprey could you link your assa build?

[spring bough]

@outer sky this waht it do

[copper torrent]

Hello! I'm new here, but I've been playing outlaw since SL. Managed to get 2.4 in s1 and 2.3 in s2 but I wanted to ask:

What is the proper way to line up inputs for a kill? I know outlaw has been considered a stunbot since DF and relies on teammates to secure kills but as I lose my mind playing this every season I wanted to ask what is right.

It's weird because with CDR things don't always line up and between abilities to use on CD and mediocre damage overall Im wondering what a proper kill window looks like...crackshot windows alone have never really been enough.

Would it be worth holding stacks of vanish to chain them rather than on CD to juggle AR. Sometimes it feels like I'm too focused on watching DR and swapping im just spreading my damage too much?

[spring bough]

on fatebound with tier right now. stealth into adrenaline window into crack and pump BTEs is a kill window. u want everything on CD as fast as u can so u can get everything back up even defensives

do not pop adrenaline pre stealth. do not pop it in stealth unless u have an enemy targeted or you will waste coin procs

usually open cheap then adrenaline anyway so no need to worry on that and then right into a BTE crack window and pump

[outer sky]

so is it better in practice or just in theory then

[spring bough]

its just better. get down the roll and vanish rules and its lights out

[outer sky]

well the rolls are easy. I have a WA to tell me when to do all that shit

[spring bough]

then u good

[outer sky]

vanish should just be when BtE is goes on CD right?

BtE>get combo points>vanish

[spring bough]

save adrenaline when vanish got 45 seconds or less on CD and when u vanish there is another go with a cheap into adrenaline into crack window

[outer sky]

i have a weakaura for that too

[spring bough]

adrenaline will give u full CP

after u press KIR too you can immediately reroll

[spring bough]

just listen to it all even if ur like wtf and youll dump damage into people

and every crack window slam BTE if it doesnt come back, pistol into BTE rinse and repeat depending on procs of ace

i just 100% to 0 that MW in that screenshot i posted a few min ago. all i did was wait for the vanish/adrenaline line up. swapped cheaped into rotation and then deleted the MW

1.93mil dispatch lmaoo

[outer sky]

you never press ambush when playing KiR right?

[spring bough]

nope. i use some macro where sinister swaps to ambush if HO is talented

so when you swap to KIR its always just sinister

[outer sky]

Can you link the talent build?

[copper torrent]

What do you do with KS? I've been running supercharger and HO to get some burst out with some nice opportunities but depending on how the rolls go it never feels like enough damage in one go especially when ambushes get used as cheaps it's just less GCDs on BTEs

With the new KS it can do some nice single target pressure when buffed by supercharger and ghostly--but super easy to stop of course. Not sure how I feel about it in cleave but ive managed to kill a shaman and warrior simultaneously when they went to link which felt nice lol

[spring bough]

can swap the crippling point anywhere and the sleight of hand/verse talents u can swap to blinding/hh or anything else

[spring bough]

i usually save KS now for when vanish is both on CD and im off my crack window

[dark stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikVlKSZBi3U

assa fatebound look pretty solid

[outer sky]

wait so when do you press KiR?

[spring bough]

5 or 6 buffs

You can try to fish for CTO procs too by switching to dispatch spam to get something KIR’d then right into a RTB to refresh

[outer sky]

do you spam reroll until you get 5 or 6 buffs?

[spring bough]

Depends on CTO procs usually. Sometimes I keep some depending on what combos I have

[copper torrent]

Would you say one charge of vanish is enough or do you need to line up 2 windows together? I imagine for the 2nd window stun would be DR'd and it's pure damage output at that point

[spring bough]

he gonna get sin nerfed with this lol

[grave basin]

https://youtu.be/ikVlKSZBi3U?si=u60_jpvwDZWvsj7v

Bois...

[spring bough]

off the start if the game u have 2 windows but thats usually all i do. everytime it is back up ill be hitting vanish. meld too if ur night elf

[grave basin]

Ah shit someone alrdy linked it

Lol

[spring bough]

been watching it some1 posted before lol

he is doing so much dmg. now sin is on the radar

and outlaw gonna be a casualty somehow lol

[grave basin]

It's just FB itself

The coins proc doesn't seem to have a PvP mod

Outlaw base spec is fine

[outer sky]

thats kind of stupid that the tier set forced you to play kingsbane

im protesting that

make it a good button to pres

rather than force it with the tier set

i hate blizzard

[safe pelican]

Wanna run some queues but still have to make dinner #pain 😔

[grave basin]

That's literally every hero talent tier

Ww tier has you pressing slicing winds

[outer sky]

but thats a good button to press

[hybrid sapphire]

did mages lose mobility?

[safe pelican]

KB is a good button imo it was solid last season with CB

[copper torrent]

Mmm alrighty ty! I'll focus on popping off more. Hopefully having more damage consolidated into one target helps more than trying to control the entire lobby and set up KS kills lol

[grave basin]

Until it bugs and you have to relog for it to work again

But by far the worst bug rn

Between shuffle rounds, my hunter pet legit doesn't work

I cant kill command or revive pet or do anything with it

Or dismiss it

[outer sky]

Kingsbane was good in DF

[jaunty osprey]

CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeYMjZmxMDAAAAAAY2mxsNDAAAAAAtsMMYmxYmZWGDmZMzMzMzYG222GzwgtZ2GbMmxs0YW2GmsNMsMA

[potent pivot]

Kingsbane has been fine

[manic steppe]

ty bossman

[safe pelican]

Basically the same Pirate tree we played last season until the blade flurry arc took over 😂

[potent pivot]

Just isn’t broken like it was in DF

[safe pelican]

Yea it was busted in DF

I’m ngl it was kinda overtuned

[grave basin]

35% execute was fine

[outer sky]

right now it hits like a WW monk's blackout kick

[safe pelican]

It’s solid with CB i don’t like running it without it though but it slams for finishing kills in SS J gave us the sauce last season

[outer sky]

like its a cooldown. it needs to do more than a single templars verdict

[spring bough]

im getting so many coin procs tn

did they shadow buff us lol

[grave basin]

[spring bough]

MW die

so easy

just slam them

[grave basin]

Managed to get 2 shuffles in yestd

Now have work

😔

[spring bough]

coin has been top dmg every round of this lobby and i have 4 wins into round 6 lol

[dark stump]

did u try fatebound?

[spring bough]

2335 after a 5-1

we closing in on this boys

back to back 5-1's feels so good. esp when coin went BRRRRTTTT

[jaunty osprey]

yes

my fatebound build

[spring bough]

fatebound does disgusting damage

[jaunty osprey]

ya

highest ive gotten is

12 tails in a row

[spring bough]

havent even been looking to see tbh. i wonder if theres like an all time high WA counter out there lol

verm had 20 earlier with like a 3milly coin

[jolly sierra]

is this shadenox?

or just a fan?

[potent pivot]

[vocal surge]

@spring bough

[spring bough]

how many gd stacks wtf

[vocal surge]

22

[spring bough]

wtf did u do to get that many

[vocal surge]

Yes

(Dispatch)

[dark stump]

edit it to put a coin between his finger

(why the heck am i still awake and i need to go to work at 7am)

[vocal surge]

This would fit a lot better

https://youtu.be/nVFrrP3yHrY?si=n6jsyqdgwV5-9dGN&t=2

[acoustic junco]

so the coin stack really is

stealth (2 coins match for dispatch)
edge case from ghostly (2)
edge case from AR (4)
dispatch (crackshot) (5)
dispatch (crackshot) (6)
vanish
cracksho (7)
crackshot(8)
ghostly (10)

that's an easy guranteed 10 stack

if you want to get cheesier, you play cold blood.

[vocal surge]

That's 6 Guaranteed

+2 after Vanish

[acoustic junco]

no, edge case gives an extra roll with tier set

[vocal surge]

You accounted for Ghostly twice

Ghostly has a 1.5m CD

[acoustic junco]

ah I guess it's 7 seconds off in pvp or something

and restless blades nerf

[vocal surge]

It's 1/2 the CD of AR

[dark stump]

Do your Campaign to get your Cloak. To upgrade Cloak, simply run this script:
/run GenericTraitUI_LoadUI()GenericTraitFrame:SetSystemID(29)GenericTraitFrame:SetTreeID(1115)ToggleFrame(GenericTraitFrame)

You will be able to upgrade it 3 times this week by just playing Arena.

Craft Pure Dexterous Fiber, put it on your Cloak.

Craft Shoulders, Chest, 1x Ring with honor

Do a few skirmishes to get a quest in ur bags to get 9x Conquest Heraldry
Craft Legs & Boots w/ Mastery Vers and Lense Embellishment with these Conquest Heraldry

Do your Spark quest to get bloody tokens. With Bloody Tokens purchase Wrist and Belt.

Do your Conq cap; purchase Head and Gloves.

Hit 1600, convert the conquest Head and Gloves to Tier. (that's for DH)

Fill the rest of your pieces with Honor Gear.

for outlaw i do the same except the tier will be shoulder chest right?

srry if the message is too long

[vocal surge]

Ye

[dark stump]

thx

what do i crast with honor instead of shoulders and chest?

[vocal surge]

Depends on what you want for stats as Outlaw

[acoustic junco]

ya I was thinking of with restless blades and the tier set doing 30 seconds( not 15 seconds)

[vocal surge]

In PvP, Tier Set's nerfed by 66.7%

[acoustic junco]

yep. so looking at 8 coins in openers

[vocal surge]

Aye

[acoustic junco]

basically can double damage on killing spree and hope it consumes the cosmic coin when doing it as well

damnit , i hate fatebound for this reason

coin tracking is tedious

[vocal surge]

x)

My WA tracks both coins

[acoustic junco]

it's not about the weakaura, it's about having to put more attention to the weakaur

[tribal ridge]

There's no way to get a 2nd charge of the Catalyst this week, right? Was just wondering if I could get a 2 PC already.

[vocal surge]

1600 in PvP or Lacquer/Varnish on PvE tier

[potent pivot]

idk where this keeps coming from

but you can just craft neck/rings

like almost every other class does w1

[tribal ridge]

Oh, I'm a dumbass, I thought it was 1600 Conquest and not rating.

[fading blade]

hows the cloak pvp wise

[potent pivot]

seems fine

[exotic dove]

The amount of mastery on it is nice for Assa and Sub

Already have more than enough vers so the new cloak alone is already better than pvp one for that one reason alone imo

[potent pivot]

in the end we're probably going to be aiming to run less mastery

the cloak is just a free slot filler basically

may as well

[dark kernel]

I'm just shocked you're able to stay in combat long enough to get my stacked up that high without somebody die already

[vocal surge]

Technically I stacked Coins higher than that

A few hours ago

It was at 25

[dark kernel]

Just the damage coins stacking endlessly then big tails flips?

[vocal surge]

But no AR + GS to send n win

[dark kernel]

You're not doing anything to manipulate this right, it's just time

[vocal surge]

Pretty much

Probability go brrrt

[dark kernel]

I remember you telling me when it's stacked mega high you can vanish around+GS and just one shot

[vocal surge]

Yeah

Didnt think I was saying the truth?

[vocal surge]

Btw match lasted less than 2mins

XD

[jaunty osprey]

@potent pivot

fatebound

with KB

[potent pivot]

@jaunty osprey

poop

[jaunty osprey]

NOPE

[potent pivot]

POPE

POOP

[potent pivot]

FB 2pc stronk

[jaunty osprey]

pressed deathmark btw

[potent pivot]

ikik

[potent pivot]

yeah

coin nerfs inc across the board i'm sure

[vocal surge]

Did you see my 1shot lol

[jaunty osprey]

ya but u're outlaw

THAT ISNT FAIR

[vocal surge]

Lol

[dark stump]

u're sin it's less fair no?

[jaunty osprey]

outlaw uses finishers nonstop

and can edge flip more often

[vocal surge]

Assa got better kill pressure thou

[gleaming sentinel]

Shhh god man

lol

[spring bough]

hey stop stealing our coins

[exotic dove]

They going to nerf our coins

[spring bough]

shhhhhh no not as long as we pretend they arent a thing

[dark stump]

can someone explain?

[keen canopy]

well it would look like he's complaining that he preemptively casted his healing over time spells on somebody and they in his eyes didnt do enough with them

if i had to wager a guess anyway

[dark stump]

he crying about not interrupting cc when he's on the other side of the map and i'am pala

pointing the fault on me when there's an evok that could easily interrupt from a distance but noooo i should be the knight in shining armor come to save him

[keen canopy]

well if you were the knight in shining armor
it would be cinematic since you're paladin

[dark stump]

i play paladin do you think i have enough braincell to keep in check the enemy healer when i try to stay alive against a lock*

[keen canopy]

what was the enemy healer

holy paladin or something

maybe resto druid

[dark stump]

if i say the name of the class i may get backlash

sham

[keen canopy]

yeah bro im gonna have to give you some backlash on this one

i mean like if you arent keeping a resto sham in check
they're just gonna run away with the game

like they're gonna place a whole hell of a lot of totems
and if you don't break the important ones
you're cooked
and if you dont interrupt the hexes
it's cooked

[dark stump]

zandalar map
comp : rdruid pala (me) devoker vs rsham pala lock

[dark stump]

i'm not more stupid than the other pala

do you want an example to why he is getting carried by the class

[keen canopy]

if you feel like giving me one i guess

[dark stump]

he was using bop against evo - lock

<_<

[keen canopy]

what is he hoping to achieve

[dark stump]

i tried to tell him to not do it again even against pala

he did it

welcome to how to throw your game

[keen canopy]

i mean maybe i just dont play paladin
one of the only 2 classes i havent hit the arena with this expac
but like correct me if i'm wrong
that aint gonna do anything

[dark stump]

it make thing worse

BOP stop physical damage which there's nearly non in this comp

[keen canopy]

nah nah see
the felguard damage

it's genius

[hybrid sapphire]

7th on shuffle ladder... this is as good as itll ever get for me

[dark stump]

the lock was with him

against templar maybe

[keen canopy]

well i mean
you know the inner machinations of his mind are an enigma

[dark stump]

but we were both herald

[dark stump]

and evo was crying saying pala nerf inc

[keen canopy]

???

PALADIN nerf

ok pal

[dark stump]

yes maybe but bro he was doing double damage of mine

lock ended 6-0*

[keen canopy]

sheesh

bro what is the damage of the rsham

man i had this rsham in my game the other day
this guy had like
3 million damage at the end of the game or something
tops

some rounds the only time he did damage was when he pressed his knockback

but anyway point being is
damn that evoker doing a lot of damage

[dark stump]

well bursting everyone like no one

one of the only class whose burst are exclusively aoe

i think

[keen canopy]

i dont really know too much about evokers i mean evoker is the only class i havent played this expansion

and i mean i think a lot of classes have burst aoe
like i mean rogue obviously not
but like frostfire mages for example do a lot of aoe

other classes
idk i cant really think of any
but im sure they probably exist

[dark stump]

when i mean aoe i mean u can be in a triangle formation u still get hit