pvp

[dark stump]

havoc lose his fury generation if disarmed

one of his*

[grave basin]

no one disarms havoc

you can backflip it off anyway

[spring bough]

I’m about ready to leave work and stare at this realm list lmao

[grave basin]

i took off from work

wed and thurs

im ready to send

[spring bough]

I’m playing till the sun comes up if that’s what it takes for rival or duelist today

Hell if 2pc that giga OP when everyone else waiting for 4 set might try and push more

[grave basin]

im gonna be spamming keys

no way im donating mmr to broken specs

[spring bough]

I’m hitting a keys / raid all Friday and Saturday and Sunday

[grave basin]

maybe 2k actually

or 2s

[dark stump]

let's spam key together

[grave basin]

tmr

after my kids go to school

😭

[dark stump]

???

school?

[grave basin]

yea kids have school

why are you shocked lol

they're 3 and 6

[dark stump]

on august

[grave basin]

i dont live in a country with seasons

[dark stump]

in my case i guess i will just stay awake till 5 am for the season

[dark stump]

i tought u were in na

[grave basin]

i play on NA, but not in NA physically

[dark stump]

ooooh

[grave basin]

live in Singapore

[fresh ermine]

Do You Know The North Pole? @grave basin

[grave basin]

No I Do Not Unfortunately

[fresh ermine]

Guess You Dont Know Santa Then

[spring bough]

Whose ready for some outlaw blasting today

[fresh ermine]

Idk what to use honor on second

[dark kernel]

I'm going to live vicariously through your details meter posts

Though I did get to dome some mages in shuffle last night

[keen canopy]

i cant wait to outlaw blast today

(go 0-6 five games in a row)

[spring bough]

Weps, trinks, then gear highest slots first like chest and helm. I’d prob hold off on rings/neck. run a random BG or arena. Get the 9 craftables and make rings/neck and boom ilvl ready for solo shuffle Que

[fresh ermine]

I'm saying

Demon hunter is my main. I don't what class to spend on next after that

[spring bough]

Outlaw ofc

[keen canopy]

obviously a rogue spec like sub or outlaw

[spring bough]

Outlaw no doubt gonna be fire

[dark stump]

play pala

be the light that purify the world of these outlaw

[keen canopy]

blasphemer

[balmy shuttle]

You also get 5 stacks of Flawless Form for every Coup. Pretty decent, IMO.

[dark kernel]

This is true

I think we might play more trickster later

[grave basin]

outlaw will blast till everyone goes up in gear and more importantly

armor

every1 has low armor in every pre season

[hidden moth]

Servers are upppp!!!! Let’s fucking goooo

[ancient mirage]

outlaw was fun in DF

been shit ever since

[fresh ermine]

He Did This Last Week Too @hidden moth

[spring bough]

🤦‍♂️

Bros playing in his dreams

[dark stump]

servers are up (for eu they were never down)

[grave basin]

gonna sleep

wake up tmr and game

[vocal surge]

Servers up

[spring bough]

Damn they early FOMO kicking in already

[vocal surge]

XD

[stoic spruce]

It was in NA

[wide flax]

stuck on a load scree DX

[dark kernel]

Link vaults

Who gets tier

[wide flax]

I always make the mistake of logging off somewhere there's a billion people

[fresh ermine]

Lol The Wah Within Is Up

[dark stump]

i know

[gusty hedge]

i can log on fresh lvl 1but my other chars say character with that name already exist 😭

[fresh ermine]

[dark stump]

maybe tomorrow i will be blasting people with thunderfury mog

[vocal surge]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-door-jumping-happy-excited-gif-14554367

20mins already of this

[keen canopy]

freedom. imprisonment. it's all an illusion

[dark stump]

at this point just close the game and reopen it no?

[vocal surge]

already did

[manic steppe]

that is what im saying

[dark stump]

nothing is real w∆k… #@&ø it's weird @!₽lφwc e u∑

[dark stump]

if luck is with me rogue is the only char with one of the brace

[hidden moth]

Don’t be lying

[dark stump]

you did

[fresh ermine]

The Wah Within Ain't Actually Up Lol Its Bugged

[hidden moth]

Shhhh

Also don’t open vault

Some people are getting s2 gear

In vault

[manic steppe]

[hidden moth]

DO NOT OPEN VAULT

[pulsar talon]

Does anyone stream outlaw PVP at the moment?

[dark kernel]

Is it bugged again

[gusty hedge]

finally past the loading screen

[hidden moth]

Yes

@dark kernel

My boosting discord and a few guild discords I’m in have announcements saying do not open it

[pine ibex]

has blizz said anything about the vault bug yet?

ive just been seeing word of mouth

[hidden moth]

I’m not risking it besides

I’m not taking anything from vault till I get a raid tier item anyways so it can wait

[vocal surge]

[fresh ermine]

My mage got a legit piece from vault

[wide flax]

alacrity or ferocity trink?

[jolly sierra]

so, its a good idea to improve the tier with a pvp token to bring it with us?

i could try tho

[spring bough]

U took tier right lmao

[wide flax]

where do you farm sparks? any WQ?

[stoic spruce]

It's a troll. No one has posted a timestamped vault of season 2 gear

I'm going through all the wow servers and nobody's had season 2 gear

Except monk

People are saying they're getting tier for the wrong class

[dark kernel]

Ahh hah

[stoic spruce]

I hope the second one is true

That'd be so funny

[jolly sierra]

they gave me 200g per outdated pvp gear lockbox

3k in total

[dark stump]

quick question which M0 dg is the easiest and fastest to do ?

wanna do 2 to complete the vault

@hidden moth DH power i guess?

[spring bough]

Cheap bastards

[spring bough]

Prob eco dome. 3 bosses. All wide open area

[jolly sierra]

so, can you choose the talents from the other hero spec now?

[spring bough]

Wym?

Tier changes its bonus based on your hero spec now

[final kite]

dawnbreaker is super fast

[dark stump]

no

a dg capping the boss hp two times is not fast

[final kite]

idk what that means but I did it in like 10 minutes with my group.

[jolly sierra]

fuck

[spring bough]

Sin fate looking good brother

[jolly sierra]

i have no problems going fate, tbh

as is assa, for me its ok

[wintry dew]

@potent pivot Do you know if the coins from the weekly bloody coins this week (before eu reset) will reset ?

[potent pivot]

wdym by coins exactly?

just bloody tokens? those reset on new season ye

[wintry dew]

hmmm okay homie

[stoic spruce]

Trickz what did you think of my new rules

He put me on ignore

[dark stump]

what rules?

[stoic spruce]

Pve stuff

[dark stump]

? care to develop

[jolly sierra]

is normal to lose every fkn skirmish in a row in this new patch? lol

[stoic spruce]

.

[jolly sierra]

that is not normal for me ngl

[jaunty osprey]

mmmm ya, better players can be queuing

to test new stuff

or farm honour

[jolly sierra]

its over tho

again

[jaunty osprey]

Sometimes you also get paired w trash teammates

[dark kernel]

There are a lot of actually decent players who queue skirm

[jolly sierra]

is that?

[potent pivot]

[jaunty osprey]

I queue skirmishes daily

[stoic spruce]

Y u ignore my pings senpai?

[jaunty osprey]

Notrickz is too cool for us

[potent pivot]

been pretty busy irl n stuff

didn't see any ping

[jolly sierra]

alright, gotta go ret

[stoic spruce]

I can tell

[dark kernel]

Apparently the vendors have no pvp varnish

[jolly sierra]

lose again xdd

if they wanna a skibidi class i will

[stoic spruce]

So

That means I can't pvp until I get 4pc on hero track

[dark kernel]

The varnish being missing has to be a bug

[spring bough]

Get unbusy. Outlaw is calling. 2pc fatebound tune squad inc today

[stoic spruce]

It's bait Teickz

Trickz

Outlaw copium again

We do it all the time

I know I do

I go

Man Van don't know what he's talking about

And then I play

And I go wow this is great

And then

I play literally any other spec in the game

And my w/r sky rockets

I'm doin dmg

And I intend to do that this season

[spring bough]

Just play and you’ll say oh wow this fatebound slaps

Trust

[jolly sierra]

finally a fkn win

[spring bough]

Giga

[jolly sierra]

lets try again

if is the case

ill put the panda to sleep for today

[stoic spruce]

Man Van doesn't know what he's talking about (the cycle continues)

[spring bough]

Man whose this guy

[exotic dove]

Hey for once the Vault actually did me good

[spring bough]

With a slot??? Bro. Go get the tier pvp convert piece and slap that pvp ilvl on that

[exotic dove]

yeah I am

[spring bough]

What voodoo ritual did u perform for that

[exotic dove]

I need to get conquest first though

[hoary spade]

Anyone see the tier pvp convert item

[spring bough]

Send it to me please

[spring bough]

Did they not include them for this season?…..

[exotic dove]

Not sure usually I have veyr bad luck

[hoary spade]

Lmao that'd be so funny if they didn't

[spring bough]

Or are u talking about the catalyst? Lol

[hoary spade]

No the item that was in the conquest vendor last season

[spring bough]

Check every page on that vendor lol. If it isn’t there blizz fucked us

[hoary spade]

I did delves like a nerd and got a piece. It better be there

[exotic dove]

Oh wait he is right I dont see it on the vendor no wonder my vault was that good

I cant convert it lol

[spring bough]

Is it maybe on one of the other vendors?

[hoary spade]

I don't see it. Bummer. Oh well!

[dark kernel]

The varnish isn't in the game right now

[spring bough]

Wow what a cock block from blizz

[hoary spade]

I wonder if they put it in after everyone can play with 4 set

[spring bough]

It was there week one last season

[hoary spade]

I don't remember when they put it in the vendor last time

Ah that sucks then

[dark kernel]

Absterge tweeted they don't know why it's gone

Nobody said shit

It just wasn't there. So Blizz may add it back

[spring bough]

Just blizz hating on us yet again

[jolly sierra]

sorry guys, i gotta put a tranq on the panda today xd

with ret i am winning all on a streak xdd

[spring bough]

Rogue betrayal

[dark stump]

supatease tier list
ur opinion on the outlaw?

[vocal surge]

Agreed

[spring bough]

Sure leave them. Bro can’t play outlaw he just mad

He couldn’t get to elite so he just big mad and hating

[jolly sierra]

no time for honor the weekly resets in the midnight

[dark stump]

u in EU too ?

[severe hazel]

so whats the gearing strat with reset now friends?

[dark stump]

try to get the 2 tier set effect before everyone else and blast ss

[jolly sierra]

ye

[potent pivot]

It’s going to be damn near the same as last season if you check the s2 gearing faq - it’s a thread under this channel

The only thing that will really change is like specific tier slots used

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1283780831147589713

[hidden moth]

Eco dome

[hidden moth]

Oh vault fixed now?

[exotic dove]

didnt know it was broken

LOL definitely hitting mastery full DR this season

[hidden moth]

Some users were getting s2 gear

[exotic dove]

oh well glad I didnt open it earlier then

[hidden moth]

Yeah

Idk if it was actually bugged or dumbasses we’re freaking out bc they didn’t get last weeks vault and was confused

[hoary spade]

Assa probably still going nightstalker for now, right?

[dark kernel]

For sub at least. Stacking mastery is BiS until it's like nearly a 30% penalty

Dunno if Assa likes crit or haste is value enough

[potent pivot]

ye. might change with tier but remains to be seen atm

[hidden moth]

Off work boys

Pto for the next 3 days + 2 day weekend

[stoic spruce]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/first-look-at-legion-remix-artifact-weapon-passive-trees-378120#comments

Was gonna level a warlock depending on how the weapons went

[jaunty osprey]

!fuu

[lethal roost]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[jaunty osprey]

@potent pivot no sims with tier yet?

[potent pivot]

i think things have been pretty fucked up on blizzard's end

[potent pivot]

whispyr's newest pin says sims are updated

fuu's sheet is another thing

[jaunty osprey]

Fatebound better before tier for ST eh

Fatebound might be decent to play into caster melee comps

or double caster

[potent pivot]

but there were spell data and tooltip issues on blizzard's end that whispyr mentioned in a pin a few days back

guess he deleted that one tho

[potent pivot]

ye, always has been technically

[jaunty osprey]

I’m so sick of this bleed/rot playstyle

I wonder if Assa would be viable with Fatebound KB build with classes that do setups/cc

instead of aff lock and tab target everything

[potent pivot]

i'm hoping but i'm not getting my hopes too high

[hidden moth]

pog

dh vault

rogue vault

[potent pivot]

L0l my power went out

2nd time this has happened on a season launch day

[hidden moth]

rdruid vault

[potent pivot]

Powers back

Strange it was gone for like 5 min

Usually it’s like a split second or a couple hours

[jaunty osprey]

This is your sign to quit

[potent pivot]

Lmao

Runey has kinda become my main game these days anyway

Gonna see how the tier sets feel on rogue, DH and prolly warr/dk and go from there

[dark kernel]

Sacbrood and tier is nice

[hidden moth]

tier

sacbrood is meh bc its champ track, ez replace and farmable

[abstract stratus]

I played a majority of s1 and s2 up to 2400 as fatebound and it really doesn’t feel THAT bad, The never slower than 70% with 2 coins passive does feel good when dealing with perma slow comps and the coins do get some decent damage out when you’re lucky I’m curious about how it’s gonna play out with the current tier. KB needs to ramp a bit quicker imo if we are gonna use it

[jaunty osprey]

RET

[jaunty osprey]

Ya, I’ve used Fatebound here and there

It isn’t bad at all, it’s just Deathstalker is so much better for the pvp playstyle

[gleaming pawn]

The core of Fatebound being actively shit the more targets are around you is a big hurdle. Coins just doing no damage against hunter and lock teams is wild

I’m liking my attempts at a more hybrid/single target envenom build so far. It doesn’t feel energy starved, but I haven’t put it through major testing yet

[gusty hedge]

1 lfr piece but can test the 2piece

[jaunty osprey]

I have several decent envenom builds

I used supercharger to rank 1 in season 1

[spring bough]

can u get the crafted quest item from winning skirmish or does it need to be a BG or solo shuff

can get it from skirms just confirmed lol

[pulsar talon]

how do you make pve tier good for pvp

[potent pivot]

you can ye

just takes a few usually

[potent pivot]

atm you can't apparently

[dark kernel]

The varnish has been removed, we don't know if it's coming back or not

[potent pivot]

the item to add pvp scaling to pve tier isn't on the vendor is what ppl were saying earlier, so either you wait to see if they add it to the vendor or we just can't this season

[dark kernel]

Smol Indy company

[spring bough]

is 38% haste too much forr KIR

LMAO

[pliant mauve]

We still get free weapons week 3 or whatever, right?

[potent pivot]

should ye

[spring bough]

guys if u want a trick

buy rings/ neck honor but DONT equip it. it will give u the pvp ilvl to que for solo

then get the crafting item quest and boom sell back the ring/neck for honor refund

[spring bough]

how is an arcange mage doing the lowest dmg in a lobby then blaming healer and now he is blaming me for his loss

[abstract stratus]

just with honor gear sin feels VERY strong

[spring bough]

how are people 2000 plus current rated in solo already

[dark stump]

meanwhile me have to wait 5 hours till i can blast people in ss

[dark kernel]

There was no MMR reset

[safe turret]

was only a soft mmr reset so people who were high mmr are climbing fast

[dark kernel]

So if people just booted games as soon as the lobbies went live

[safe turret]

they've also been queing nonstop since servers came up most likely

[dark kernel]

There will probably people hit elite tonight

[spring bough]

in the new zone is there something like wax that gives sparks

[jaunty osprey]

Just do world quests

on any zone

to cap your bloody tokens

Fuck the 100 sparks shit lol

[dark kernel]

Wait it works from any zone now It used to only be the zone for the quest

[jaunty osprey]

No, any WQ done with warmode on = 100 bloody tokens

[dark kernel]

Oh that's dope

[jaunty osprey]

Literally pointless to farm 100 sparks

[spring bough]

getting a token wep

[vocal surge]

It is

100 tokens/quests

[hidden moth]

i love carrying lfr dps

to get zero fucking loot

[spring bough]

love this game. solo shuffle que wont let me hit enter on the pop up or the minimap button

if u are phase dived in Karesh u can NOT click and enter a que

[hidden moth]

just unphase dive

then click it

[spring bough]

yeah well didnt know that brother

[halcyon timber]

Get the device on the vendor that ends it no?

[hidden moth]

u can unphase dive either with a item u can buy with 1 copper

[spring bough]

and im spam clicking thinking it was an addon error

[hidden moth]

or

CLICK THE PHASE DIVING BUFF OFF U DONT NEED THE ITEM

[halcyon timber]

Yeh

[hidden moth]

❤️

[abstract stratus]

I grabbed the honor gear with haste over crit on pieces with no mastery and it gives an absurd amount of haste in total

[hidden moth]

yarp

[abstract stratus]

Are we supposed to prio haste over crit or crit over haste as third stat? I’ve never had to itemize this late in a season before

[hidden moth]

up 2 u

most people

go haste thouhg

[potent pivot]

mix of both

[hybrid sapphire]

just logged in where are we dropping my fellow rogs

[spring bough]

yeah its ridic like 35%+

[abstract stratus]

35% on a sin rogue feels extremely goofy but not bad lol

[hybrid sapphire]

so first course of action should largely just be upgrading crafting gear right"

[jaunty osprey]

I’d prioritize accessories since those give giga secondaries

do neck + rings if sub/assa

[potent pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1283780831147589713

[jaunty osprey]

It’s important to do it so you don’t lose too much vers from DR

[potent pivot]

Most of this will hold true for s3, the specified tier slots prob diff

[spring bough]

714 ilvl from reshi wraps this week is fire

[potent pivot]

I forget which slots looked alright but there’s vers or mastery on 4 pieces iirc

[spring bough]

im going all but gloves

[potent pivot]

2 crit/mast 1 haste/vers 1 mast/vers

[opaque tendon]

how long till start ?

[potent pivot]

Google

Diff time zones n all that

Already started quite a while ago in NA

[dark stump]

in EU it will be in 5-6 hours

[spring bough]

if u guys havent figured it out yet, you can press feint, crimson, evasion, and cloak while KS channels

[vocal surge]

2v2 US

https://tenor.com/view/homem-aranha-tobey-maguire-bully-maguire-gif-24530055

Ranking achieved successfully(???)

[spring bough]

ethereal reaping racking up KBs

[dark kernel]

Yeah this is why I'm here

Harder

I see you're playing hidden opportunity already

[dark stump]

u're not playing fatebound anymore ?

[spring bough]

not playing trick anymore just got 2piece after that lobby

[dark stump]

u nearly decieved the gambler association

https://tenor.com/view/john-malkovich-all-in-gamble-gambling-casino-gif-4488332

[vocal surge]

XD

[gleaming sentinel]

It’s raid night but I wanna PvP :<

[dark stump]

do you prefer blast some big black hole guy or blasting some as... for obvious reason this joke was canceled

[hybrid sapphire]

should i replace my 4pc set from last season w algari?

actually i cant really see how i make the pvp ilvl threshold otherwise...

[dark stump]

yes

the stats from honor gear just overwhelm the tier set effect

i heard it was stormwing size

deception

[gleaming sentinel]

guilds been raiding together since vanilla, cant stop now

[abstract stratus]

Do we know what piece of tier sin rogues DONT want

i think its shoulders but idk if i should grab warmode shoulders first

[hybrid sapphire]

wtf

oh... my trinkets

[spring bough]

boomy didnt stand a chance brro melted

milly BTEs

[spring bough]

coin with 2 piece goes OFF

[dark stump]

give me more screen to pass my boredom

i have to wait 4 hours...

[dark stump]

how do u perform in ss ?

[spring bough]

ehhh right now tooo many one shots out there lmao

lobbys have been all over the place

[dark stump]

mage or ret N

?*

[spring bough]

mage, ret, DH

lots of locks

fatebound burst is nuts. 2 milly coins going HAM

[dark stump]

Locks? Didn't they got a huge nerf?

[vocal surge]

Warr DK

[spring bough]

i went absolutely HAM on that ret right there

2 milly coin is dirty work

i did 6 milly damage in like 0.6 seconds

[vocal surge]

Lol

[hoary spade]

Conq legs first for assa?

[vocal surge]

XD

Healer didn't even heal, he just perished

[spring bough]

insane death log

[vocal surge]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-coins-angel-v1-gabriel-gif-13283596541870298018

[spring bough]

can we update this to say 7 coins

[vocal surge]

Prob

[dark kernel]

Is this the coldblood meme multi coin opener build

That you had showed me on ptr

Like 7 flips on opener with two piece?

[vocal surge]

Ye

[stoic spruce]

No

Stop telling people

There's like

8 outlaw players

We can hide this

[spring bough]

wym the shits pinned in outlaw channel

[stoic spruce]

Pvp stuff gets fixed faster

[vocal surge]

There's more important classes to fix

other than Outlaw

Outlaw's in a REALLY bad position

[stoic spruce]

Sure but that implies blizz uses logic with these kinds of things

RB still nerfed

Blizz does their own thing

Logically speaking yes they should fix the other stuff

[spring bough]

isnt it supposed to do 6 rolls anyways from stealth

but the issue is it isnt so they need to use that macro?

[stoic spruce]

Yeah

I'm like

[spring bough]

outlaw > sub

SUB AENT GOT NOTHIN

[stoic spruce]

99% sure this was designed with assa in mind

[spring bough]

this reshi cloak is getting near 1milly crits in pvp

cant wait to get boots to proc it more

[stoic spruce]

Because they can easily force the 7th coin

[stoic spruce]

You gonna do remix pvp?

[spring bough]

wym pvp in remix??

[stoic spruce]

There's wpvp in remix

Wqs

[spring bough]

oh def

this mage ate the floor

1.3mil pistol and a milly coin lmao

coin is 100% an execute

vanish, adrenaline, into crack window is INSANE

coin procs are going so hard rn idek what to do lol

[edgy vine]

Dude what the fuck is the ladder rn

[vocal surge]

X)

[edgy vine]

I hit 1800 and somehow everyone forgot hpw to kick ccs

Need a fucking zyn after that

[jaunty osprey]

@potent pivot

top damage to my main target

was singular focus

[hidden moth]

is it just me or is there like 0 mastery pieces on honor gear lol

going from 65% to 42%

[hidden moth]

ah u crafted some items

[waxen meteor]

Do we use orange cloak in game?

seems we gonna use that in arena too

[spring bough]

reshii gonna get up to 730 ilvl so yeah def wanna use

can level it up thru pvp. and u can change the main stat on it. it will also proc for a milly crit higher ilvl

[waxen meteor]

Yeah this week is already 707 or 709 or sth

Very close to honor gear anyway

So I am just using it

Probably gonna skip blood token on cloak this season

I got a tier from vault btw…

[vocal surge]

Its pure secondary stat btw

the cloak

[spring bough]

go upgrade ur cloak

714 ilvl today

[grave basin]

How's inflation

[spring bough]

prob played enough to upgrade it

[grave basin]

What's your shuff MMR @spring bough

[waxen meteor]

what

By arena?

Or the world quest

I haven’t done much today yet

After 2 tier I might try some fatebound 2s

[vocal surge]

We're fighting the top 50 in 2s rn

[spring bough]

when u do pvp stuff u get threads. then u go to Karesh and upgrade cloak

[waxen meteor]

Pfff

[spring bough]

i cant see where the counter is for the threads but i just went and was able to upgrade

[waxen meteor]

I was only reading the mission doing world quests

[spring bough]

the threads dont show in currency tab

does any1 know a way to track them?

[waxen meteor]

WEEK 1 TO DO LIST

Do your Campaign to get your Cloak. To upgrade Cloak, simply run this script:
/run GenericTraitUI_LoadUI()GenericTraitFrame:SetSystemID(29)GenericTraitFrame:SetTreeID(1115)ToggleFrame(GenericTraitFrame)
You will be able to upgrade it 3 times this week by just playing Arena.

Try this

[spring bough]

oh we dont even have to go there LETS GO

ty ty tarny

[waxen meteor]

Haha but tbh rogue and DH gear are almost the same route, so mvq’s post is helpful anyway

For sin/sub

[spring bough]

outlaw is GIGA Busted

holy forcing coins is amazing

[hybrid sapphire]

what the... this is ugly as hell

[waxen meteor]

[jolly sierra]

do you need the cloak actually? xddd

[waxen meteor]

Indeed

This is ugly

[waxen meteor]

Yep!

[jolly sierra]

FUUUUUUUCK

gotta get it

F

[dark kernel]

I am getting this on every DR tracker I try

[hybrid sapphire]

when is the pvp hawkstrider

[grave basin]

is this true?

[waxen meteor]

It’s okay, fairly easy to get

[dark kernel]

yes

[stoic spruce]

What part of "players will use in all content" did you not understand?

[grave basin]

no fucking way?

[jolly sierra]

you know me well, is just go there and go normal?

[grave basin]

there's no laquer item? @spring bough

[dark kernel]

because fuck us?

[jolly sierra]

the one which says "players"

[waxen meteor]

It’s just quest

I do all quests anyway

[jolly sierra]

fair fair

tbh never stepped on undermine

XD

[spring bough]

nope blizz said fuck pvp

[gleaming sentinel]

wow players hate playing the game rofl

[grave basin]

TWO tier pieces

[waxen meteor]

I got tier chest at 691

did like 6 m0s last week

Happened to have a guild team farming m0 last week

Got a free ride

[jaunty osprey]

@potent pivot pin worthy

[dark kernel]

Got tier hel.

I literally can't find a working DR tracker

Diminish is fucking up mad and so is TeeA

[spring bough]

lucky MF my first two slots was a tier 11 delve... forgot to do one moore to secure the 3rd slot annd my tier was a veteran track RIP

[spring bough]

second this trickz

[waxen meteor]

Btw is it my illusion or is ret really good now

Run into multiple rets they all seem to have unlimited hp and big dmg

[dark kernel]

Ret is S tier for sure

[waxen meteor]

I don’t know what changed but ret’s survival to be really solid

And of course each stun got me 100-0

[hidden moth]

this week cloak is 714 dawg

[waxen meteor]

Yeah I haven’t done the upgrade yet

[hidden moth]

ah gotcha

[spring bough]

all paladins are good

100% heal

multiple shields

freedome

paladin is ridiculous right now

[waxen meteor]

I feel I am doing zero dmg on them now

But mage and some casters seem to be still hitting them crazy fast

[spring bough]

just one round right there lol

we got a rival here boys @vocal surge

[vocal surge]

2v2 Double Outlaw Rival

[marsh yacht]

So will we run 4 piece in assassin eventually?

[hidden moth]

mostl likely

[dark kernel]

So

[vocal surge]

Kill Steal time

[spring bough]

7 coins in 0.6 seconds

LMFFAOOOO OWNED

[dark kernel]

I won a 2v3 skirm in last seasons gear

[spring bough]

ripped them

[vocal surge]

^

[dark kernel]

i was trying to lose

lmao

i cant get diminishing returns to work

with any addon

[spring bough]

KS the ultimate finisher now when it fully goes off

we went healer and cleave killed the feral LOL

[outer sky]

wait what

how am I supposed to get honor

if i cant queue

until i have gear

that only honor can buy me

[spring bough]

time to world pvp for some tokens and do randoms or find a 2s partner lol

[jaunty osprey]

pretty much at mastery DR cap

[spring bough]

S3 u gonna be dropping MFs

just ended a lobby 2.1mil dps

wild times out here right now

[outer sky]

i just realized honor didnt reset nvm

is this another season where our set bonus is so garbage that we dont even know if we'll play it or not yet?

[dark kernel]

they're all pretty good

[gleaming sentinel]

The tech is cold blood crack shot spam with 2pce?

[spring bough]

nah just superrcharger build with it

coin goes crazzyyyyy

[dark kernel]

Short game but my coin usually isnt that high, this if HO tho

[spring bough]

wait for 2pc

[dark kernel]

Oh that's right. I got tier helm in vault but it's low ilvl

[spring bough]

we smoking healers and cleaving DPS

[empty fable]

is it worth replacing undermine set with honor gear for the stats? or keep until have manaforge set

[spring bough]

just replace it ull get 2pc quick better for the ilvl upgrade rn

[dark kernel]

Are one of you running that dispatch coldblood build?

Or is that just KiR normal fatebound

[spring bough]

nah just the KIR fatebound build

with supercharger

this was for 1800

SMOKED this fool

[abstract stratus]

is the cloak skip broken rn?

[spring bough]

wym cloak skip?

[empty fable]

don't talk to the attendant in tazavest, fly straight over to the cloak upgrade dude

doing the campaign skip breaks the cloak skip

(or it did originally, at least)

[abstract stratus]

buddy did the campaign on an alt and went to get the cloak just now and it wasnt showing up re started the game and it showed up so false alarm

[dark stump]

did he do the phasing world questline?

"Another world"

[spring bough]

would any sin rogues dare play 3s with 2 outlaw rogues. all fatebound ofc

imagine the coins going brrrrrttttttt

[grave basin]

@dark stump whats your 2s now

lfg is killing me

[dark stump]

?

[grave basin]

i just played with an enhance that did less dam than an rdruid

[dark stump]

i'm eu

[grave basin]

oh shit

i forgot

[dark stump]

still 20min before reset

[hidden moth]

@jaunty osprey did u just go full vers mast even over the cap?

[spring bough]

coins going crazzzzyyyyy

[hidden moth]

what conq items is assa buying this week? and bloody token

@potent pivot since faq gearing isnt updated... tisk tisk

[dark stump]

did u just cleave both of them?

[vocal surge]

Yea

[spring bough]

2pc outlaw as fate in solo can command kills lol

feel like i can just rip a vanish and adrenaline and off some1 with a stun ez

[dark stump]

1min left

i'm going to go try and get the last brace for thunder fury then blast with pala and outlaw

[outer sky]

how do I even gear rn

what do I buy 1st

what do I enchant

[dark stump]

what did u buy with conq and bloody token?

[dark stump]

this feel the same as dk frost pillar frost pvp talent

[spring bough]

i bought a MH wep with bloody tokens

[dark stump]

then how did u get 2 set tier effect?

[jolly sierra]

alright guys

it just reseted in EU

got a tier piece

for week 1

[vocal surge]

Catalyst converter + GV Tier

[spring bough]

outlaw can just kill healers in solo shuffle... even holy paladin

[dark stump]

bruh

[dark stump]

do you da nerf my friend ?

(it's a joke calmos)

[spring bough]

no nerfs round here

[marsh yacht]

Well shit I guess it’s not too late for me to switch lol. I just suck at the game and it takes me weeks to learn stuff

[jolly sierra]

guys, 3 chars

3 tiers

wtf

[marsh yacht]

I got zero tier in 6 slots.

[jolly sierra]

weir

there is not pvp upgrader

like in the former season

did you watched if is in sale?

[marsh yacht]

Is outlaw just bis or are you guys winning because you’re gods in general

[dark stump]

they are technically god

[spring bough]

its pretty good lol

people in solo already starting about outlaw RIP

[stoic spruce]

Color me shocked

[jolly sierra]

guys, are you sure is a good idea to pick tier?

there is not any pvp equalizer

like in former season

xd

[spring bough]

they complained about my flurry damage and im not even trickster

[stoic spruce]

[spring bough]

just saw world first 2100 Solo shuffle DH

[silent umbra]

Anyone playing trickster sub?

[dark stump]

ok the other guy were still s2 gear but i don't even know what my spell does

[jolly sierra]

use the 1 button rotation

[outer sky]

@jaunty osprey howd you gear today?

[dark stump]

at the third round i discovered that the holy torch is a healing spell

[jolly sierra]

so, did they stopped selling stuff like this for s3?

[dark stump]

yep

this season they removed it it seems

[jolly sierra]

what a waste to get tier then

xddd

[dark stump]

nice idea

[halcyon timber]

Instant cocoon lol . You guys need to lay low xD

[stoic spruce]

Getting me nerfed before I even get 2pc

[hybrid sapphire]

hours into the season and these ppl are already raging omg

[spring bough]

we dumped so many coins on that MW

[marsh yacht]

They’re gonna nerf me then all I’m gonna have is sap, blind, gouge, a spammable stun, silence, a 7 second stun, a mortal strike and a smoke bomb

[jaunty osprey]

bloody tokens belt and bracers

craft rings and neck

crafted daggers, shoulders, chest, boots at honour ilvl

tier legs and gloves

[marsh yacht]

Is it pvp tier?

[jaunty osprey]

ye

[marsh yacht]

Do we just start with a cats charge I guess?

[jaunty osprey]

you start with 1

and another at 1600

[marsh yacht]

Sry I’m at work. I know I’m asking dumb questions

In 2 hours I’ll be on the grave shift grind to 1600 lol

[outer sky]

so what did you craft vs what did you buy

[dark stump]

i feel like sub rogue is scary when everyone is in honor gear

or is it just me?

[jaunty osprey]

crafted daggers, shoulders, chest, boots at honour ilvl

craft rings and neck at conq ilvl with the free 9 heraldrys

[marsh yacht]

Sub always just feels above my head. This is the first season I’ve gone in maining rogue, but I just always felt like I’d need so much time invested to get good enough to push with it

But I maimed mage for 15 years so there might just be irreparable damage there

[halcyon timber]

Rogue in general isn’t “easy”. Don’t think about it much and have a good time. The rest will follow man.

[dark stump]

me what am i doing ? getting farmed

[grave basin]

people are alrdy 2.4k

in shuff

[outer sky]

thats normal. I was 2.4k day 1 last season

[outer sky]

and which pieces did you purchase with your conq?

[jaunty osprey]

tier legs and gloves

[outer sky]

wtf is this

[grave basin]

i fukin hate how ww has to play 2h weapon after the first season

atleast with thisweapon i can kinda cosplay it as thunderfury

[dark stump]

1 minute of silence to the mage

[grave basin]

Cracked mage lobby

Just keep stealing freedoms

[dark stump]

yeah i got the light saber and wanted to the mog with the heroic set

i can't

[dark stump]

he didn't since none of us used it

[grave basin]

My ww gonna have 3pc

If I get another tier from vault next week then we cooking

[spring bough]

New cape. Do the campaign thru chapter 3 and you’ll get it. Gonna be bis for the season

[outer sky]

ok

do we know for assa which tier piece we definitely wont be using for 4 set?

[grave basin]

@spring bough pvp gear is champion now?

i could have sworn it's veteran

in s1

[tall sleet]

morning, did they remove the pvp upgrade item for tier items?

[dark stump]

does it mean i got hit by 2 chaos bolt ?

(i mean the x2)

[grave basin]

yea

pretty scummy

[tall sleet]

for what reason?

[grave basin]

now we have to choose between pvp or pve tier

probably just forgot idk

oh well

atleast pvp gearing is fast

alrdy at 7 epics this week

dont need to do anything for cape slot

[tall sleet]

but i wanted to play both pvp and pve

now i cant

this is so stupid

[jaunty osprey]

shoulders

[exotic dove]

First Assa lobby of the season on the alt rogue and 4 pallies LUL

[exotic dove]

Went 1-5 that lobby

They really need to nerf rets

Im tired of them gaslighting everyone in thinking they are bad

[dark stump]

in pve they are bad
in pvp they are op

[exotic dove]

I was refering to the ones that say they are bad in pvp

If that lobby is a sign of the season to come I am just taking deathmark off my bar or strictly playing Sub

Even if its a first lobby on one of my alt rogues that is still tilting

[ancient mirage]

im guessing the shoulder is gonna be the crafted armor piece and the rest is gonna be the set pieces?

[exotic dove]

probably

[dark stump]

how am i supposed to play against evoker?

as any class

[severe hazel]

what piece do you guys get first for conq on sub? legs i guess?

[gusty hedge]

got all geared up just to log out lol hopefully i can push ss when im off work, that illusion looks cool

[grave basin]

good to know arcane mages are still bullshit

[gusty hedge]

i hear nerfs Friday for mages

[indigo hill]

Sparks of war quest seems to be bugged. Stuck at 97/100.

[grave basin]

this is why you only queue 2s in the first week

[stoic spruce]

How long are outlaws shuffle queues? I may join the dark side and ride solo

[grave basin]

imagine feeding these dogs mmr

[gusty hedge]

make sure you're not in a raid group, relog/reload open caches in new zone or drop from bounty/players

[indigo hill]

As soon as i entered Dornogal the quest completed.

[outer sky]

what the fuck is MM hunter right now

hasnt blizzard figured it out yet

nobody wants to play this dogshit game when the MM hunter can take 80% of your health bar without CDs

in a global

its so fucking bad

feels like we go through this every single season

[orchid plinth]

Outlaw content! https://www.twitch.tv/dazedfps

2p Fatebound seem to be blasting

[tall sleet]

what are we buying with bloody tokens?

wasist and wrists?

[grave basin]

why is last season's tabard red

and all the elite sets of this season also red

matches more with s2 tabard

monk 1800 set looks hella clean

[orchid plinth]

I really like the weapons this season

This whole season has a good vibe imo, no goblins

[grave basin]

true and real

the gob aesthetics didnt really vibe with me

[stoic spruce]

I liked it

[balmy shuttle]

What do you guys think? Outlaw crit or haste after the necessary haste for GCD? (w/o Swift Slasher)

[gusty hedge]

haste/crit, killing spree can channel in 2.3 secs enough to let off during sub window and still have crackshots.

[vocal surge]

https://tenor.com/view/ohmygawd-knocking-wood-why-gif-12218660

Denied

me n Vaancleef

Meanwhile theres a Fatebound rogue in 3v3 on Murlok.io at 1300

and thats it

[safe pelican]

We do lmao it’s the new fom spec every season since like season 1.5 of tww soon as those hero talents came out its been downhill ever since

Irl kicking my ass didn’t even get to play yesterday, ran one EBG and got smoked cause I’m still in season 1 gear lmaooooo being behind on gear fucking sucks send some fat kidney shots out for me today twins

[stoic spruce]

Just you fuckin wait

Them hoes so lucky its my work week

I get off today

I have a meme idea for when I get home

Gonna be great

[spring bough]

3 fatebound outlaws walk into 3s and come out gladiators

[spring bough]

This some BS we def made the cut

Now it’ll update today when more will be listed 😭

[vocal surge]

XD

[vocal surge]

When you on Popo

[stoic spruce]

No clue. I'm about to get off a 14 hour shift. I gotta shower eat and sleep

I still gotta get my dang cloak

Did it on every character but my rogue lol

I'm thinking of oatmeal

Maple and brown sugar

Classic

[spring bough]

Sleep?

No time to waste outlaw bout to get whacked on one of these Tuesday’s lmao

[stoic spruce]

Probably this Tuesday lol

Dude

I got it all laid out for me this morning

Can we have a moment of silence for the loss of season 2 tier?

We gather here not to mourn, but to celebrate a life well lived.

[spring bough]

I don’t miss it

Once we get 4 piece for fate bound. Think of all the adrenaline casts we get which is 7 coins we can do and how many more ghostly which is more coin flips

[stoic spruce]

I ran enough ptr to know which I prefer

Sooo many keys

[stoic spruce]

I want more rtb

Rtb go brrrr

[spring bough]

I’d rather have a 7 coin flip that hits for 10 mil plus with a crack window tbh

[stoic spruce]

Lameeeeeeee

HO/SC Trickster peak outlaw

[spring bough]

If only trickster had some shit like “unseen blade procs on RTB”

Then it woulda been GIGA busted this season

[vocal surge]

Aye

[dark kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/seething-pissed-mad-angry-driver-gif-17586077

If you get that spec nerfed before I even play

[severe hazel]

last ssn guide has - With the 9 Conquest level Heraldries, we can craft boots+X - isnt it neck + rings? and 2x embell on rings? (sub)

[stoic spruce]

PEOPLE LOOK TO ME AND SAY

IS THE END NEAR? WHEN IS THE FINAL DAY?

WHATS THE FUTURE OF MANKIND?

HOW SHOULD I KNOW? I GOT LEFT BEHIND.

[spring bough]

Outlaw

[spring bough]

Outlaw

[stoic spruce]

Ozzy has a song for every occasion

https://youtu.be/JNm6bucMPmY

That's my intro song when I log on later

[dark kernel]

I have 40% haste and verse in PVP what the fuck

[stoic spruce]

You gotta believe in foolish miracles

[stoic spruce]

Get out of stealth

[dark kernel]

Its still 30%

Lmao

[stoic spruce]

Gonna have to drop a piece lol

[severe hazel]

what are we getting with bloody tokens?

[dark kernel]

As sub you probably want bracer/belt

[severe hazel]

tyty

[stoic spruce]

Someone was saying we weren't gonna have the haste for this season. I wish I remembered who it was.

[dark kernel]

Yeah it's actually nuts, I'm less concerned because our tier has like 0 haste

[paper terrace]

anyone know if subter is best now cuz of 2 set or we still playing thistle build?

for sub

[potent pivot]

Ye that’s fine too

[severe hazel]

@potent pivot would you go vers/mastery belt for bloody tokens since there is no one with good stats from conq and its more conq points compared to bracers?

[potent pivot]

At first yeah

Probably going to end up with too much mastery towards the end of the gearing process

[severe hazel]

yeah i mean long term we just craft w/e we want anyways i guess

thanks!

[dark kernel]

Big fucking dick in it

[potent pivot]

We’ll use 2 crit/mast 1 haste/vers 1 mast/vers iirc

[spring bough]

We have so many secondary stats now idk what to do

I didn’t even try and I’m at like 37% haste and 38% verse 😂

[jaunty osprey]

Everything but shoulders

[dark kernel]

Just drop some greens for crit. Tier has barely any haste

[jaunty osprey]

For everyone asking

Assa/Sub should prob craft 2x rings + 1x neck with the 9 free conquest heraldrys

Spend bloody token on belt and bracer

get the reshi wraps cloak + remember to upgrade and craft the pure fibre for more stats

Week 1, likely use conquest on legs and gloves - and catalyst both

[potent pivot]

ye the shoulders are crit/haste

[jaunty osprey]

The tooltips of the chest and legs actually line up??

[potent pivot]

i was asleep when you pinged me last night

i'm about to go to the dentist

[jaunty osprey]

blizzard shouldve made the helm smaller and line up too

[potent pivot]

when i get home i'll edit the gear faq thread

[vague comet]

does the recipy difficulty for the crafted rings matter?

[potent pivot]

the material rank you use doesn't matter

just want to make sure you're crafting with the purple heraldries so you get conquest level crafted

[vague comet]

Trickz buddy your still here damn

helped me in s1 now helping in s3

ty xD

[dark stump]

unless u want to use ur pvp gear in pve

[jaunty osprey]

What does matter is that you guys rush 1 socket so your embellishment actually works though

[dark stump]

wouldn't recommend tho

[jaunty osprey]

Some games, my elemental focusing lens is proccing like crazy

[vague comet]

@dark stump you mean world pvp?

[dark stump]

did u guys enchant ur weapon ?

[dark stump]

i meant pvp in pve

[spring bough]

Lense can do like 2-6 mil on a round depending on procs it’s nuts. Even the reshi cape pumps sometimes

[abstract stratus]

why does sub feel so bad subs damage with new gear didnt change at all

[dark stump]

how do i get the heraldry ?

do i just buy them with conq?

[severe hazel]

@dark stump first 9 u get after somethink like winning a bg

its just a quest that pops up

and no didnt enchant honor weps

[dark kernel]

Sub always feels bad with green gear because it usually suffers the worst with loss of tier and stats

I always lost mastery on new seasons until geared up.

[jaunty osprey]

I have 10% more mastery this season

than last

[severe hazel]

any comments from blues on why they removed the item to turn pve set into pvp?

[jaunty osprey]

and 10% more vers

so

It wasnt removed per se

It was added as a S2 feature

[severe hazel]

ah ok. didnt play s2 so was thinking its just the standard now

[abstract stratus]

Atleast we are less likely to see 4 set by week 2 now in arena

[jaunty osprey]

It was never on the S3 PTR or in the DB for astral 😦

[severe hazel]

do we already know if we even want 4p?

[jaunty osprey]

Yes

[dark stump]

only if u're lucky with pve drop no ?

[severe hazel]

i guess we skip the tier chest?

[potent pivot]

No

[dark stump]

i think the should that is skipped

shoulder*

[potent pivot]

^

[dark stump]

for all spec or just sin and sub ?

[potent pivot]

Tier sets are extremely strong this season

[jaunty osprey]

Sin and sub

[potent pivot]

Sin/sub

[jaunty osprey]

Skip shoulders

[severe hazel]

hast vers chest monkaS 🙁

[potent pivot]

That’s fine

Going to hit mastery cap anyway pretty sure

[severe hazel]

was just confused since the non set chest is vers mast

ah ok i see

[potent pivot]

There’s only 1 vers mast tier piece

[jaunty osprey]

The reasoning behind that is because otherwise you’d play crit haste shoulders and now lose out on both vers and mastery

So better to have one stat that you like

than none

[karmic summit]

does any1 have a pvp assa talent tree

[dark stump]

just use the icy vein one

[karmic summit]

aight thans

[outer sky]

alright so assa rogue is definitely trash tier right now

idk how this happens

we get giga buffed and it feels worse than before

id actually like to see how the numbers for that work out

because it doesnt seem possible

[potent pivot]

The buffs just tried to bring us in line with everyone else on PTR

So you aren’t going to feel them in relation to how strong or weak we were last season

[outer sky]

they very much failed to do so

I'm literally spamming 0-6 and 1-5 lobbies

it feels like im in season 1 gear

[severe hazel]

is it ever worth to wear a low ilvl pve set piece if it completes a set? i have a 668 chest from vault in bags

[jaunty osprey]

No

[dark stump]

for pve or pvp ?

[outer sky]

Look at these win/loss ratios. Clearly I'm not the only one having a problem

[jaunty osprey]

Well

All those people above you

Have never been above 2500 in shuffle

Their win ratio is correct

It should be 50% for that skill level

In addition, there was only a soft MMR reset - everyone lost 400 MMR, so you’re facing a lot better people right off the bat

[outer sky]

my buttons just dont do damage. I'm lowest dam every lobby and usually by a good margin

that shouldnt happen

[jaunty osprey]

That’s weird because I’ve been showing @potent pivot my damage

and it’s been insane

[jaunty osprey]

^

[jaunty osprey]

^

Like without tier set, look how hard singular focus is hitting

without 1000000 pets to pad off of too

[dark stump]

show a screen maybe we can see what's the problem

and tell us the comp u were against too