pvp

[grave basin]

im finally off work in 2mins

[stoic spruce]

I wouldnt know

:)

[gusty hedge]

yeah, the crates drop randomly like other zones every 18-20min, some rares also drop sparks. all season 2 drops(conquest)

did all the quest i could yesterday, doing alt skips when im off work should be easier 100%

Tried to aura farm last night 😂

[stoic spruce]

I bet that stuff tastes yummy

[manic steppe]

is there a reason why my rival title is gone even tho i have the achievement

[gusty hedge]

season is over

[manic steppe]

so the title go away?

[wintry dew]

Yes

[manic steppe]

oh ok

didnt know that was a thing

ty

[grave basin]

cant you just go straight and get your cloak on alts

or you still need to do some quests?

even after youve done the whole campaign on main

[stoic spruce]

the music in the new zone is so pretty

atmopsheric

like the intro to a death metal song

[verbal field]

they should change titles to ''Rival TWW Season 2'' then they'd be permanent

[hidden moth]

Only titles that stay at end of season are rank 1 titles

[hidden moth]

That’s not a title that’s a paragraph

[stoic spruce]

Ain't no one gonna care about you got rival in TWW

[hidden moth]

Not being toxic but popo right

Rival is like 2k in m+

[gleaming sentinel]

technically the transmog says that

[hidden moth]

Cool sure but not gonna turn heads like 3k +

[hidden moth]

Rival is 2100+ no?

Set is just 1800

[gleaming sentinel]

rival is 1800

duelist is 2100

[stoic spruce]

If you want to stand out, wear the aspirant set.

Absolutely no one wears them out and about

They're so good too

Lately

[gleaming sentinel]

yea i agree

[gusty hedge]

i skipped rn, but not sure where to get cloak now xD

ahh nvm, talk to hashim and hell give u new reshi wraps

[dark kernel]

alright

I finally get time to play game

[vocal surge]

Outlaw is so

undertuned

lol

A skirm

[gusty hedge]

yeah it still feels weak

[dark kernel]

lol for real?

[vocal surge]

Yeah

[dark kernel]

so i discovered one cool thing

WW whirling dragon punch knockup

does not disrupt Killing Spree

[gleaming sentinel]

380k?

[vocal surge]

+50% it

since Details lowers numbers post game

[dark kernel]

yeah you're right damage is ass

amazing how with all those buffs it's still somehow subpar

[gleaming sentinel]

maybe sub/assa angle...

[dark kernel]

yeah

the KS change doesnt suck as bad because you could already get CC'd out of it

so it doesn't really feel different

people still think it does nothing

[gleaming sentinel]

it feels impactful tho

[dark kernel]

it kinda does do nothing

ehh

in a 3s match I was averaging 4 mil per cast

into cleave

[vocal surge]

My friend was dueling me

and was complaining how the moment I dip under 40% HP

His damage gets stop gapped

by some hidden modifier

[dark kernel]

I'd have no idea what

[gleaming sentinel]

went against demo and the pets absorbed all the dmg

...

[spring bough]

So how is outlaw today

[vocal surge]

Weak xD

Every other class doing more DPS than us

in straight 1 on 1s

[grave basin]

same kek

[spring bough]

Cool so we skipping S3 then

Or do we get another 15% buff

[grave basin]

nope

more damage to sinister strike

best we can do

[vocal surge]

Hope for Pre-season PvP buffs to Outlaw

[gleaming sentinel]

Maybe tier and fatebound will be big

[vocal surge]

2p is gonna be our biggest powerspike

[spring bough]

Yeah it’s like 15% inc or something stupid lol

For fate that is. Trickster 2pc isn’t at much

[dark kernel]

The trickster gives a pseudo double coup back which is nice at least

for CDR

I liked it a lot

[vocal surge]

Aye

[dark kernel]

also it doesnt say this specifically

but the new Killing spree is a front conal only

It says "does damage around you" and it shoots the gun 360 degrees around but it ONLY hits targets in about a 160 degree angle in front

[gray dune]

does honor reset next week?

[gleaming sentinel]

yea idk this shit sucks

[vocal surge]

My dispatch stronk atleast

[gleaming sentinel]

crackshot burst is better than spree

[quaint cedar]

I'm unsubbed currently, was checking in to see if outlaw is playable again.

Guess not lol

Guess I'm in the Midnight waiting room now

[vocal surge]

MM Hunter casually doing 1 shots

lol

[quaint cedar]

Cool, very cool

[vocal surge]

Black Arrow --> Aimed Shot (Triggers Black Arrow explosion) --> Dead

[gleaming sentinel]

yea like i cant even move their hp bars and suddenly i get hit by 6mill

[vocal surge]

Prot Warrior op

[spring bough]

Why is blizz hardo for MM

[safe pelican]

Outlaw hype was short lived I see , reroll it sub and call it a day lock in fn

[spring bough]

Why does blizz hate rogue

[safe pelican]

Or just play MM you only need 5 buttons to get 1800 as MM lmao disengage, turtle , rapid fire , AS , BA

[spring bough]

GD BM hunter got like 2 talent overhauls this xpack and blizz looked at rogue and went “13% overall should be good”

[gleaming sentinel]

I enjoy assa and sub I’m just not as good at them so that will be a fun journey. But I don’t think I can do another season sucking

[safe pelican]

This all went down hill for rogue cause the pvp community cries about being dying in a stun so the basically we’ve been neutered to the point where you do piss damage and can’t kill in a stun , unless you have all CDs and now everyone has 35 oh shit buttons for when you have all CDs

We’re all just playing rogue for the aesthetic at this point let’s be honest lol

[spring bough]

Yeah but a DH can aoe stun for 3 second and kill someone. And somehow one stun rogue is the problem lol

[safe pelican]

This

[grave basin]

how many chapters are unlocked week 1?

[spring bough]

Prob only one it’s blizzard lmao

[safe pelican]

I’ll be fighting a DH like brother you basically identify as a rogue wtf is this ,

[gleaming sentinel]

apparently outlaw being good is timegated too

[dark kernel]

yeah

[potent pivot]

[dark kernel]

I knew Outlaw was mega cooked when after playing it a week Supatease was in a 2350 lobby and got out damaged every round by a prot warrior

and he was playing decently

seems not much will change yet. I have hope for fatebound

[spring bough]

And by the time we have full tier we will get nerfed for some stupid pve shit just watch

[vocal surge]

Lost to a Prot Warrior

Outlaw v Prot War

Cant even damage him past 30%

[spring bough]

Time to cancel the sub losing to a prot GG

[vocal surge]

WITH

80%

[gleaming sentinel]

its assa season

[vocal surge]

Dampening

[quaint cedar]

I think outlaw's design has been butchered too much to be viable in pvp anymore

[vocal surge]

80%

DAMPENING

LAD DOES NOT TAKE ANY DAMAGE

[spring bough]

Is sin even good?

[gleaming sentinel]

in pve you want as much adr uptime as possible, the 20% nerf just butchered the spec in pvp

[gleaming sentinel]

yea why wouldnt it be, aoe garrote alone is so crazy

[spring bough]

AOE silence always so OP

Fuck it night elf going full sin. Kul tiran staying outlaw

[quaint cedar]

Yeah exactly. Specs are designed for pve first. Outlaw is meant to work with a certain amount of CDR providing enough ADR uptime, which is now impossible in pvp because of the RB nerf.

[spring bough]

They should reverse this. They only did this cause of the RTB tier effect

[gleaming sentinel]

even in shuffle, while dazed and caffeine are insane. They still were able to just not q til late season ans keep their prevous mmr

[safe pelican]

Feel like sin will always at least be decent from how they’ve been treating it. Thus being able to damage so many ppl at once .Keep assa in line to be competitive, while trying to constantly balance sub to appease the community ( everyone that DOESNT play rogue )

Outlaw is cooked hang it up boyz

[gleaming sentinel]

outside of them, like 8 people go t2400 lol

[quaint cedar]

Yes, they need to reverse it otherwise we're perma cooked pretty much

[safe pelican]

I agree with Nahj though assa just doesn’t feel like a rogue, sub really embodies the class best and i grew to love outlaw aside from the carpal tunnel.

[quaint cedar]

Since they forgot to get rid of it this season, it likely means we'll have to wait until Midnight when they usually reset old pvp modifiers. So we're looking at Midnight launch as being the next possible time that outlaw can be viable.

[safe pelican]

J is a beast at assa though i enjoy watching him play

[gleaming sentinel]

there's a rogue named Walmart feral that plays assa

lol

[safe pelican]

Lmaooooo now that’s comedy , that’s spot on though like feral and assa rogue are almost the same shit just one turns into a kitty

[quaint cedar]

I think I've played against that guy before lol

[gleaming sentinel]

i think i just like assa because i can kinda blast in team fights

[grave basin]

man what a sad day to be able to read

[hidden moth]

Honor don’t reset

[spring bough]

Hope tier changes the game or we cop another outlaw buff

[hidden moth]

Dh and rogue are The adhd classes and that’s why I play em

[grave basin]

Outlaw is looking like it's due for a rework

[gray dune]

okay cool lol, ty

I want the aspirant set just for tmog lol, atleast for rogue

[hidden moth]

Assa could use some love

[gleaming sentinel]

like bro, fighting this demo

full kidney, ghostly up... send a spree

[quaint cedar]

Even if tier helps it will just get nerfed anyways. Happens every time. Our tier is either shit, or it's good and gets nerfed immediately.

[gleaming sentinel]

doesnt even break shield

[hidden moth]

Lock shield can be like

50% of their total hp

Gl breaking it if they got a wall rolling as well

Add a mod to assa that blind won’t remove your own dots/ poison and cannot break to those effects either

Like blinding sleet with dk disease

[gleaming sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-dwayne-johnson-eye-roll-oh-man-mock-gif-4968945

[hidden moth]

[spring bough]

Ight so what’s gonna be the OP class. DH again? We rerolling?

[gleaming sentinel]

Nah I’m playing rogue. My main willl be outlaw. Alt assa

[vocal surge]

Prot Warrior new talent

10% - 40% damage reduction when second wind kicks in

[severe hazel]

do bloody tokens reset again next week?

[spring bough]

Pretty sure unfortunately

[potent pivot]

rogue

[spring bough]

OP class rogue confirmed

[dark kernel]

Just make an Outlaw and a Sub/Sin alt

im not going to be stuck again witht his shit

[gleaming sentinel]

Ride or die with outlaw, but I’m def playing the others on an alt for sure.

[dark kernel]

I wish I could play 3 rogues

[hollow carbon]

Playing rogue in unorganized PvP is def some kind of self torture

[dark kernel]

Dude, PvErs are not okay

some people play this and enjoy it

[severe hazel]

they say the same about pvp guys 😄

[harsh kiln]

my 5 cents on the new KS in pvp, it's too easy to avoid

[hidden moth]

I’m goin dh/assa

Dh for 3v3 though unless I find a aff lock

[gleaming sentinel]

Gonna reserve judgment til full gear, but yea it just seems too long

[gleaming sentinel]

Yea bro maybe im just gonna be the petkick of outlaw but just like half as good at the game

[stoic spruce]

And doesn't texts minors

[gleaming sentinel]

lol wait what?

[stoic spruce]

This is old news bro

Just know

You'll always be better than petkid

[spring bough]

You can

[vocal surge]

5M DPS on a triple cleave

From casting 1 full Killing Spree

[severe hazel]

broooo the s3 titles are so wild icant. astral legend what a title

astral gladiator

easily the best titles to date

[orchid plinth]

Moonkin title

[severe hazel]

indeed

[tight hill]

anyone getting a bug on main where something brings you out of stealth but are still stuck in the crouch animation?

super confusing lol

[azure rapids]

it`s annoying

[tropic coral]

Super annoying

[glass hazel]

small indie company

[dark kernel]

Yes

[stoic lava]

I'll give you my 50 cent son it, its a downgrade

[exotic dove]

Well that didn't last long got a rage whisper doing the skirm weekly

I dont know if I can show the screenshot here do to TOS though lol

[jolly sierra]

DM me

gossip is my biggest food source here

[spring bough]

Wish it had that demolish type shit that kinda pulls you in so u can’t run

[hidden moth]

GREAT NEWS

unless tooltip is buged

4 set isnt being nerfed in pvp

[chrome schooner]

It was nerfed on PTR

The duration at least

Either it changed, or the tooltip is bugged

[hidden moth]

either tool tip bug or shadow buff

[exotic dove]

sent

So been playing all 3 specs in some shape or form in pvp. Right now I want to say Sub seems strongest of the three but Assa is def stronger than it was. Outlaw I am sorry

I want to add that is a shuffle perspective

[potent pivot]

prolly just the tooltip

happens often

[stoic spruce]

So often

[outer sky]

Did these buffs hit yesterday?

[hidden moth]

yes

[outer sky]

oh boy time to log on

[glass hazel]

is it new or just summarized from 11.5?

[hidden moth]

new

all these patch notes went live with 11.2

[glass hazel]

nice

[grave basin]

the amount of people infront of fungal folly

lmao

my piss geared arcane mage is already hiting 10m barrage

[dark stump]

pvp or pve?

[grave basin]

pve

to unlock the vault slots

FF is super quick

[dark stump]

10m which ilvl ? xD

[grave basin]

622

662

[dark stump]

ooof

should i do FF or continue doing heroic dg ?

[grave basin]

if you care about pve then do 8x t8 delves and 8x m0s

to unlock every row

[dark stump]

the saddest thing about hunter is that bm is better in delves

[grave basin]

i mean these delves are piss

you can use the talent that summons your pet as mm

[hidden moth]

I found the new delve easier

More straight forward no mini games or puzzles

[grave basin]

im already clearin t7 then t8

im for sure going for t11 if i can

on this piss toon

brann's curios dont seem to be that good tbh

[stoic spruce]

I do sidestreet because for some reason, I get distracted easily and I always somehow end up where I need to be.

[hidden moth]

Some are decent

Also

@grave basin

[grave basin]

i have so much shit to do

[hidden moth]

Got seaforium and sack brood on dh from m0s

Both are 691 fucking Pog

[dark stump]

what ilvl is the min requirement for m0s do u thing?

[hidden moth]

660

Well minimum? If u wanna go slow and steady 650 is fine

Maybe even 640

But I kinda just pulled my m0s like a timewalking dungeon

Everyone was 681+ ilvl and we just stomped it

[gleaming sentinel]

I did all straight through 11 on the new delve with zero deaths on outlaw

[dark stump]

on rogue?

[grave basin]

imagine there are people

unironically that cant do t11s

"please keep delves casual friendly"

i hate when people equivicate casual with bad

[gleaming sentinel]

I’m the most okayest rogue on the block

[stoic spruce]

You've obviously never seen me in action

[dark stump]

and you all have never seen me in action

[gleaming sentinel]

Hey cmon get your own block

[stoic spruce]

This block ain't big enough for the 2 of us

both draw our pistols and miss

[grave basin]

i mean

so undertuned LMAO

[dark stump]

i draw the pistol and shot my foot by mistake

[hidden moth]

My dh tank

[hidden moth]

People in delve gen chat were saying 8s were tooo difficult

[stoic spruce]

I draw my pistol and drop it and shoot a window out

[grave basin]

i mean how

[hidden moth]

Idk man

Have u met people?

There are wow players hard stuck 1400 in shuffle

[dark stump]

a sad day of being forced to play BM to do t8 delves

make this suffering end plz

[grave basin]

why are you stuck playing bm

i dont get it

[gleaming sentinel]

I panicked and hit killing spree hitting nothing

[grave basin]

you know theres a talent in mm tree that gives you back your pet right

[dark stump]

because i'm trying to gear my mm

[dark stump]

https://tenor.com/view/math-calculate-confusing-figure-out-gif-6237717

[grave basin]

youre in the wrong delve

go to fungal folley

you can clear it in 5mins

[grave basin]

it's in the middle, 3rd row or 4th row

cant remember

im gonna queue m0s soon

[edgy vine]

I just kinda spammed Fungal folley on my rogue you can skip half the shit and the boss is shit easy on 11

[stoic spruce]

How do yall clear it so fast?

[edgy vine]

Fungal?

just do the mushrooms and skip everything else

you can sap mobs and do the mushroom and vanish

the dudes that sit on the lizard with true sight if youre fast enough you can sap them too

[grave basin]

fungal is goated LMAO

[edgy vine]

greatest delve of all time

[grave basin]

especially this story

no kill bar

just objectives

[stoic spruce]

Sidestreet is my fastest

[grave basin]

i try to mass invis the elite before the last boss and he keeps getting pulled

cause BRAN ISNT INVIS

not that it matters but what curios you guys using

[gleaming sentinel]

Am I dumb for staying outlaw? should I just switch?

[grave basin]

yes

go sub

get 2.4 in first week

[gleaming sentinel]

ok i will stay

[dark kernel]

Im doing both this go

[hidden moth]

https://youtu.be/aLY6RbZvKWg?si=-jgeEv-BuTTnim6x

[edgy vine]

I saw their listings in group finder, they actually pay pretty decent to pass on loot

[hidden moth]

this vid is why right here lol

[edgy vine]

bran broke my sap like 5 times i want to crash out

[hidden moth]

ya 75k gold for a trinket

[grave basin]

bran just ass pulls

ok t11s are kinda ass now

[stoic spruce]

What's a t11

Oh I'm stupid

[hidden moth]

why

[hidden moth]

breh get ur gains up

[grave basin]

these guys with the massive shield

i mean i started with ilvl 640

i just wanna get my delves done then go do world quests

or maybe m0s first

and get it done

[hidden moth]

ez mode

[grave basin]

any outlaws done shuffle

i mean

kekw

[stoic spruce]

I stopped delving. Too many sweats.

[grave basin]

dk is OP

in delves

just pull everything and deathstrike

[grave basin]

@hidden moth my vault says t7 are giving max reward

did they change it

from t8s

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ2Zfb-R604

[hidden moth]

Bugged on ptr to give it in 7s

I did 8 t 8 bc if blizz fixes that bug and I did all 7s for vault and I log in expecting hero track x3 slot and it was all champ I would crash out

[hidden moth]

I saw “tanksalot” video of him trying to figure her out and it’s wild

Her ?? Diff has 1,065 mil hp yes that’s over a billion hp

Have fun solo in it

[broken otter]

Wait, do we have confirmation that the Great Vault will be awarding this season's gear, come this Tuesday?

Or reset* (for my EU friends)

[red tiger]

Would be the first time ever

Wouldn't it

[broken otter]

Yeah, my memory sucks, but I swear I remember the first (off) week of the new patch rewarding the previous season's gear.

[hidden moth]

Season 3 gear

Same as launch of s1

And launch of s2

Ur thinking of

[broken otter]

I'll take your word for it, - cause again my memory is straight ass.

In which case, awesome. I gotta get those done. Thanks for bringing it up.

[hidden moth]

Season 2 last week u get a vault u open it on s3 off week and its s2 loot

[broken otter]

Ohh

Yeah I think I remember that actually.

[hidden moth]

8t8 delves 8 m0s gl hf

Yes this means doing 2 m0s you have already cleared this week

@broken otter

[broken otter]

Yeah, I saw that. Sorry, I had a pizza coming out of the oven, haha.

I don't do mythic+ anyways. I just do Delves.

Not much of a PvEer

[hidden moth]

That’s fair

Hoping to rng 1-2 tier items from vault plus 2x catalyst charge and praying for raid tier item

Same time I’ll just class stack tf out of a normal so I am the only person on my tier

[dark stump]

is there no way to skip the quest with an alt to get the areshi wrap ?

[broken otter]

There is, but I didnt do it so idk how

I just know when u skip it, you still need to go get the wraps from the wraps guy

At least that's what I've seen ppl say

[dark stump]

ooh u need to unlock phase diving to get the skip bruh

[broken otter]

Oh word

Honestly, I've been having so much fun on my Mage, I haven't even touched any of my other classes.

[dark stump]

arcane?

[grave basin]

no fucking way there's no alt skip for cloak this week

i did the quest line on my alt instead of hunter/ww

[broken otter]

Arcane and Fire. I keep swapping. Both Sunfury.

I've just been doing world content and stuff though. I'm definitely not someone to look up to, on the matter.

Probably not going to PvP for a few weeks, - between doing the world content, and then crafting my nuts off to get that gold.

[dark stump]

i just did it

wait i send the vid here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWHWhmiqmEw&t=107s

[grave basin]

oo

thanks

but im stuck on that quest though

the hashim guy is bugged the fuck out

[broken otter]

I had issues with it. The thing that fucked me over was my equipment manager bugging the cloak out.

I fixed it by unequipping all cloaks, then logging out and back in, then manually dragging the new cloak onto the cloak slot.

Dunno if that's what's wrong with you. But worth a shot.

I also immediately xmogged the cloak the moment I got it. So, that could have been my issue.

[grave basin]

yea i checked wowhead

seems like many people are seeing the same bug

small indie company

[hidden moth]

There is just a bug

Go to where u get the cloak from phase dive guy

Say I need new cloak on ur alt

Done

I got it on 5 alts already 0 issue

[grave basin]

yea done

[dark stump]

gg

[grave basin]

i go on my 665 mage = insta invite

i go on my 678 sv hunter = decline full canceled decline full cancled

is this real life

BRO IT'S FOR M0 MAN

[dark moon]

But you are not in the s+ section of the m+ meta tier lists with your hunter

So no invites, sorry. The community is unwell.

[dark stump]

meanwhile me 667 hunter BM trying to find M0 group

[dark stump]

i smell frost nerf from a mile

[grave basin]

gg

atleast i can cope about the top guy, full 685

glizzy was same ilvl as me

also this place is comfy af

there;s like sofas and beds and shit

[dark stump]

hehe

[grave basin]

i got this off the world boss

world boss is absolute cancer btw

[dark stump]

which one?

[grave basin]

ive killed it so it doesnt appear on my map

just open your map you should see it

you only get 1 loot per account per week

[dark stump]

was it the golem boss ?

[grave basin]

no

it's some void dragon

[dark stump]

oooh

nah i'm cursed with belt drop

[grave basin]

LEL

[wanton breach]

at least there is no leather belt on it, doesn't matter tho if you get the cloth/mail/plate belt anyways

[severe hazel]

is the only way to get tier as a pvper by catalyst charges (if u dont raid etc ofc)

and one omni token at a certain rating iirc

[safe turret]

You can get tier from delve vault slots, and even dungeon vault slots as well as tier from LFR and then use a conquest token to add pvp ilvl on it as far as a pvper who does no real pve goes

[severe hazel]

yeah i was trying to understand the point of the items that convert pve tier into pvp tier. now i see. so all the low level pve content can be worth it i guess

[safe turret]

pretty much if you get one piece of tier from pve sources (raids, LFR, vaults) you can tech have 4pc in two weeks

so prob worth doing if you really care, in the end it doesn't matter as you get the gear anyways

week1 of season you'll be able to use forge for two tier pieces (counting 1600 charge), week2 = no charge, week3 = charge, week4 = no charge, week5 = charge, so if you skip getting tier from pve you cant get 4pc til week5

[severe hazel]

ah so week1 insta gets us one catalyst charge nowadays

also sweet

i think i will just chill with the guranteed 2p from week 1 then

[azure rapids]

is it worth doing dvelves for higher ilvl for pvp ?

[severe hazel]

no. next week you will get honort gear which will scale higher than anythign else in pvp already

you need about 9k honor + crafts and bloody tokens to have a full pvp set (around 12k honor if u only go with honor items iirc)

[azure rapids]

thanks

[hidden moth]

Prob bc they are only taking 681+

I was only taking 3k+ players with 681 ilvl min

But that’s bc I wanted to be able to trade loot if necessary

That and I didn’t want to carry 660 Leeches

[grave basin]

can we please hang all tank players

[stoic spruce]

Play better

[grave basin]

i should join him and be a one button enjoyer

[stoic spruce]

Frrrrr

I should do the same

[grave basin]

someone tell me what this is

there,s some coordinates and he's mounting /fs

[neat smelt]

Is Assa kinda really good rn or is it just me?

[gleaming sentinel]

Yea seems really strong

[neat smelt]

Just really wish we had better defensive or more leech

[dark kernel]

Do we need to update every week aura, my DR tracker is throwing me like a hundred Lua errors

[hidden moth]

Idk why I just got the hell divers reference in this achievement

[hidden moth]

Ya, outside of that go pvp for tier drops in raid/ vault then upgrade that with conq

[hidden moth]

Yes

New patch means go to curse forge and wago to update your shit

I had 15 addons to update on launch day

[dark kernel]

It's only the DR tracker that's needing an update everything else seems to works normal, I already did add-ons. I'm just not super on the ball about week aura

[hidden moth]

Ah

Wago app

Opening w/a in game should show u which have updates to get

[fresh ermine]

Can you still get the belt?

or na

[dark kernel]

The PvE belt? Yeah

[hidden moth]

God I can’t wait for next week when that belt is dog shit and I can take it off

[dark kernel]

It's okay now you'll have the cloak you can't take off

I don't know what lizards obsession is now with these flavor items

[hidden moth]

Well tbf

Ring and belt were catch up

Reshi wraps is a legendary that makes sense with what is happening in the campaign

[dark kernel]

Ah yeah. I didn't even know it was legendary

[hidden moth]

Also AT LEAST I CANT GET A CLOAK DROP FROM THE WORLD BOSS

UNLIKE THE SHIT ASS BELTS THAT ARE LOWER ILVL THAN THE DISC BELT

[hidden moth]

Did u read any quests in the campaign?

Special Infused fibers that were at the original destruction of K’aresh make the cloak

Also we arnt getting a legendary until midnight at least

A proper legendary like fyrak axe etc

[dark kernel]

Lmao no

[gleaming sentinel]

I think them having an item like a “legendary” cloak, just fucking remove cloaks from loot tables lol

[dark kernel]

I literally hate leveling and questioning 99% of the time

[dark kernel]

They did qcrually

[gleaming sentinel]

Oh good

[hidden moth]

They did

[dark kernel]

I forgot rogues hasn't had a legendary wep in a while

That's going to be fun for Pvp

[grave basin]

Any1 going for the zone meta achievements

I'm on track for the expansion one

[edgy vine]

is it just me or is arcane fucking broken?

[gleaming sentinel]

Outlaw LF arcane mage for 3s

[grave basin]

prepatch doing prepatch things

[dark kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/christian-borle-bud-light-commercial-on-fours-on-all-fours-gif-6888396432050844595

Me for my new arcane daddy

[tight hill]

saw this on the forums lol

[edgy vine]

12million barrage is fucked

[gleaming sentinel]

Better nerf restless blades

[tight hill]

how quick do blizz normally fix this stuff?

[dark kernel]

If you're a mage they just don't.

[tight hill]

how are people thinking sub will be this season with no changes?

compared to other classes i mean

[dark kernel]

Sub will be fine and Trickster sub actually may be fucking disgusting

Its not going to be worse, and it'll still be better than outlaw for sure.

The double coup on trickster during a big go window is kind of sick. I didn't even think about that.

[tight hill]

oh sick what changes were they? can't see much on the 11.2 patch notes

oh the set bonus

[dark kernel]

You can double coup and the second one is more empowered so during shadow blades kill window that's huge

[tight hill]

that sounds a lot better than deathstalkers 4pc 'Symbols of Death has 3 sec increased duration and consumes an application of your active Deathstalker's Mark when activated.'

[dark kernel]

That actually could be kind of okay if you think about it.

You can kind of manipulate your marks to be consumed faster or at a better time for surprise. But I think the sub trickster set is just way way better

The unseen blade no cooldown on 2pc is also money

[hidden moth]

Till u gotta rng it on pve lol

[dark stump]

what did i miss?

[gloomy fiber]

Hey is Outlaw going to work for pvp this season? Or we all doing sub?

[hidden moth]

Sub and assa are the pvp rogue specs

Only 12 people hit 2400 last season in shuffle as outlaw and it’s not lookin bright

-outlaw hate train (aka blizzard)

[gloomy fiber]

I was hoping with that buff to fatebound for single tar it would preform better

[hidden moth]

https://youtu.be/Njx_31eIfb0 btw @grave basin

U can farm vet gear rn if u are missing 681 ilvl slots

[hidden moth]

I think it’s doing better than last season

But dunno

[gleaming sentinel]

I guess 2pce will tell a better story

[hidden moth]

The full extent aside from its not top tier

I’m excited for assa tier set

Shiv poping mark is gonna make opener so bursty

ESP if ur running kb

[gloomy fiber]

I just want to hook around and run ppl down with that KS burst

[hidden moth]

uses ks
slams keyboard and destroys monitor

[dark stump]

i hate this dg + dh is not legal

[hidden moth]

Meanwhile the other rogues are laughing at you bc .2 seconds after u poped ks they gouged you and cancelled its channel

[hidden moth]

Dg?

[gloomy fiber]

Yeah that happens

[dark stump]

dungeon

[hidden moth]

Context

Oh

Wait what dungeon is dg and dh

[gleaming sentinel]

“Burst” my boy I think crack shot does more dmg :/

[dark stump]

i finish and i will speak

[hidden moth]

Kinky

[gloomy fiber]

Guys I just want to live the pirate/gun slinger fantasy lol you are crushing me lol

[hidden moth]

Look man

U asked

I answered honestly

[gloomy fiber]

I like it though

Prob go sub for real pvp anyways

[gleaming sentinel]

Outlaw is fun, I’ll stay but I’m gonna complain the entire time

[hidden moth]

*does this dress make me look fat? *
Yes you are 700 lbs woman
proceeds to cry into her family sized kfc bucket

[dark stump]

bro

xD

[dark stump]

dg is dungeon

[hidden moth]

What’s dh

Like demon hunters shouldn’t be in dungeons?

I’m so lost breh

[dark stump]

no the fact he heal himself more than the heal

[hidden moth]

That’s

How all tanks work

Well

Prot war dh and dk

Also tank is all self heals

I see u and another dps dead meaning ur healer sucks anyways bc he let people die in a m0 of all places

Also damage profile matters

If the dps and healer is taking damage the healer has nothing to heal aside from the tank who heals off his own attacks and abilities etc so really the healing gap between tanks and healer comes down to is the tank taking more damage than the healer and dps and usually whichever is taking more damage is going to have more healing

[dark stump]

i'm between happiness and anger

[dark stump]

this "the city of echoes" got one of the worst aggro system

it's like "hey let me hit and give u dots that will kill u in 5sec"

[grave basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1FQnoD9lcQ

this guy did it AGAIN

he did underpin first week too

@hidden moth

hardmode btw

1thousand million hp

[dark stump]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-one-punch-man-fight-bang-garou-gif-16359839

bro be like

[grave basin]

yea he's really good

[fresh ermine]

Do i gotta do world quests for valorstones?

[potent pivot]

For PvP? No

[dark kernel]

Isn't she bugged

[fresh ermine]

na for pve

[dark stump]

you can spam delves or dungeon

[spring bough]

Ima just go war and spam spell reflect and kill it in 5 casts

[grave basin]

it already got fixed

[spring bough]

🪦

[grave basin]

and those that did that got thier rewards removed

[spring bough]

Daaaammnnnn they went that far on that? GG blizz

[dark stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guv3HsBtaQE

meanwhile arcane mage

[light peak]

hi, bloody tokens and conquest reset is next week, right? so i dont need to farm BT right now

[dark stump]

yes

[dark stump]

is it bugged?

[analog tapir]

wich spec is best for pvp rn

[potent pivot]

🎱

season hasn't even started yet my friend

sub/assa seem fine so far

we'll be getting a lot of tuning in the coming weeks

just play what you enjoy, as you always should generally

[abstract stratus]

So the new tier set in theory could let you cheap,ss,eviscerate, symbols twice and then get deathstalker eviscerate right away right? I may be over thinking this but it sounds right

[potent pivot]

that's spending a lot of resources for a not-so-big outcome

but if you had someone sitting at like 10% and needed it asap then maybe

symbols is getting a bit stronger with the tier set so i don't think you'd want to waste charges just to get a DN evis unless you really had to

but yes it should work that way

that's also if we run 4set, but atm i kinda think we should run it either way

[abstract stratus]

It seems more like a “that’s neat” change then a “change your rotation this season” then

[potent pivot]

yeah

even just spending your 1 normal symbols is getting you DN 1 finisher faster

so it should naturally line up with finality evis iirc

[hidden moth]

What ilvl are u that the poison is hurting????

Pop a defensive or get the poison dispelled

[dark stump]

674

it hit like 800k-1m

[hidden moth]

Ight fine I’ll kill it this weekend

[dark stump]

do it with assa rogue

[hidden moth]

Yeah let me take the WORST single target spec in the game

There isn’t even adds for me to cleave onto to get energy back

[dark stump]

nooo assa is not that bad

prove blizz they are wrong

make assa great again

[hidden moth]

It’s not that bad but

I FUCKING HATE ST ASSA GAME PLAY EVEN WITH RAID SPEC

[dark stump]

or you can go boomie

[hidden moth]

using envenom to spam mut to 5 cp then sit and watch as I auto attack to then do envenom and mut to 5 cp again is not fun

[orchid plinth]

Do you have a second monitor?

Great for energy regen time

[hidden moth]

All while doing 1 envenom and 2x mut over 5-7 seconds U STILL RUN OUT OF ENERGY

I’m just going to play my dh

I’ll do it as havok dw

Even if it’s stats and chants are all geared toward vengeance stat weights

[orchid plinth]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[dark stump]

i'm thinking of doing dh pvp season 3 just for this mog

[orchid plinth]

I A-D spam to feel something

[hidden moth]

IK HOW IT WORKS

It’s still ass

[dark stump]

ass or assa?

[orchid plinth]

I agree

[hidden moth]

Both

Abc is fucking ingrained into me and

[orchid plinth]

The Ass in Assassination stands for Ass

[hidden moth]

Playing a spec that has to go periods of time of just auto attacking like it’s classic wow is just

[hidden moth]

Except in pvp

[orchid plinth]

Spam FoK M+

[hidden moth]

Where the outlaw in outlaw mean outlawed from being viable

[dark stump]

what's ur top 3 good looking s3 set ?

[hidden moth]

Pala

Best one hands down

Lock is good

Priest isn’t bad

[orchid plinth]

I like Rogue normal conq

[dark stump]

best one for me too

[orchid plinth]

Looks like some MoP shit

[dark stump]

then there these two who got direspected

[orchid plinth]

Mage looks LIT

[dark stump]

mage is fine but just a copy paste

[orchid plinth]

Good Sunfury theme

[dark stump]

hunter i wanna know who chose these color

[orchid plinth]

Phoenix etc

[hidden moth]

Lock goated
Priest ight
Mage meh
Dh okay
Rogue ight
Druid okay
Monk wtaf is that togc looking set
Shaman goated
Hunter okay
Evoker who fucking cares bc ur a dragon and can’t even display your fucking helmet more or less the rest of the set
War okay
Pala goated
Dk at least they tried

[orchid plinth]

I like warrior but the chain is questionable

[dark stump]

monk the more u look at it the more it look fine ngl

[hidden moth]

The conq set looks good

[dark stump]

no

[hidden moth]

Trial of the grand crusader lookin head ass

[orchid plinth]

Red is just not a monk color, I like the others more

[dark stump]

the myth variant is good
but the color of the conq set is a crime

[hidden moth]

It’s a leather class but why does the set have plate on it

[dark stump]

this one ?

[hidden moth]

Mythic

[dark stump]

wanted to do the joke about the police shooting the war but i will stop myself

[orchid plinth]

I mean I like that one too

Its dark, edgy (pvp) and some green (monk)

[dark stump]

The green color is a little off

[orchid plinth]

yeah that one is goated

[hidden moth]

It’s a white coloring from pve idr the tier

[orchid plinth]

I like all mage color honestly, everyon fits their theme

[hidden moth]

Except plate armor on a monk

[dark stump]

till i see that i dropped a mage tier set on my fcking hunter....

[hidden moth]

Can’t tell me those shoulders and bracers are leather

[dark stump]

?

[hidden moth]

Shoulders and wrist guard things

Looks like plate

[orchid plinth]

that one is cute, very UwU Arcane

[hidden moth]

Those accents are something I would expect on pala armor

[orchid plinth]

I like Warrior Heroic (teal)

[dark stump]

this rogue set (normal variant) is lit

[orchid plinth]

Hunter looks like someone forgot to add a bunch of stuf

Hunter elite looks like something you might get after finishing a quest zone

or maybe Orc female just sucks

[dark stump]

without the helmet it's good

[orchid plinth]

priest kinda cool but mythic set gives me very Mage colors

[hidden moth]

Tbh it gives more of a ranger

[dark stump]

the conq one maybe

[hidden moth]

Rangers are minimalistic in the armor they wear as they have to traverse various terrain while also keeping light on their feet etc

[orchid plinth]

Yes, great at questing

Shaman looks very good imo

[dark stump]

yep except the conq color vairant which is just trash

[orchid plinth]

one of my favorites probably

[dark stump]

shaman feel like there's no innovation but it look good

[orchid plinth]

Mythic colors is like a callback to T2

[hidden moth]

Thought the conq was white

Or is that myth

[dark stump]

myth is white

[hidden moth]

Ah

Also hot take

Conq set coloring being dog shit isn’t a big deal

As long as elite set coloring is good

Rather the “flex” set look better than “I spam lost bgs until I scrapped enough conq to get this set”

[dark stump]

normal one is ok

[analog tapir]

also i got question about assa rogue, how do i open on ppl? just basic opener?

[hidden moth]

Cheap ambush gar rup cheap

[analog tapir]

roger

[dark kernel]

This shit is the worst thing ever.

Hunters getting robbed.

[dark stump]

myth is good that's why i started pve on him

[orchid plinth]

Conq one looks like something that our Velf PvE friend would wear

whatshername

minus the hood

WoW lore is so impactful I forget her name

[dark stump]

the hunter from heathstone ?

[indigo hill]

Hows Outlaw looking for the coming season?

[potent pivot]

so far not so hot, but we usually get multiple tuning patches in the first month or two

[heady swift]

Feels like a shoulder, glove, boot, angle again in terms of useable in transmogs and actually looking good

[heady swift]

Alleria?

[orchid plinth]

ah yes thats it

[severe hazel]

how does craftig work in pvp? how do we get the heraldry items ?

[potent pivot]

when the season starts

you get 9 free from a quest after winning some type of pvp

[severe hazel]

wow so we are basically set with that for the whole season?

[potent pivot]

and you can just buy them for conquest/honor off the respective pvp vendors

no

you buy more

[severe hazel]

isnt it just one per craft?

[potent pivot]

no

3, 4, 5

per item

[severe hazel]

oh nvm then, thanks!

[potent pivot]

the first 9 you get you craft rings/neck for 3 each

[severe hazel]

is there any best item to craft? like in pve its always weapon first but since u get them for free in pvp...

[potent pivot]

later on after you have your tier set handled you can buy more to craft other items

[severe hazel]

ok thanks

[potent pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1283780831147589713

^that was last season's starting guide for week 1/2

[severe hazel]

wait what "Sparks are no longer used for crafting PvP gear"

[potent pivot]

very similar to how s1 was so it'll likely just be the same

[severe hazel]

so we can insta craft 3 items?

[potent pivot]

pretty much

[severe hazel]

sick

[potent pivot]

just ignore anything specific about tier set slots used

because those may be different with the new tier

ill update the thread for s3 either a day before or a day after next reset

[severe hazel]

since u mentioned crafting rings/neck first. are embellishments rather minor in pvp and we dont focus on getting them asap?

[hidden moth]

It’s also depends on what’s happening how many targets etc

If it’s 2 dps kinda atop each u can do cheap 1 ambush cheap 2 , rupture, cheap1 , garrote, cheap 2, ct

Or

If it’s 2 dps kinda atop each u can do cheap 1 ambush cheap 2 , rupture, cheap1 , cheap 2, gar, ct

Tbh though ur looking to get good cheap shot value in opener as u get 1 use and 6 seconds following to cast it and 6 seconds after that for aoe gar rup and all the other stuff that comes with that 12 second window

[potent pivot]

You just put them on the rings or ring +neck

[severe hazel]

ah ok, was only on boots / bracers from what i remember

[hidden moth]

Iirc pve used ascendancy with boot/ bracer embellish that buffs the proc
In PvP we just use 2x focus lens and call it a day

Don’t forget to put a actual gem in your gear otherwise it won’t work, the PvP bloodstone cuts don’t count for focus lens either

So even if you don’t plan to get all 9 gem sockets u need at least 2

[hidden moth]

Will we keep it updated though… would be nice to have it go out through week 4 or 5

[potent pivot]

Slot doesn’t matter for some embellishments, we use focusing lens in pvp

[potent pivot]

Probably not

After week 2 the importance of the decisions drops drastically

[hidden moth]

I’ll update it and just have u copy pasta then ❤️

[hidden moth]

Ik

I miss our free pvp tier piece at 1600 though

[dark stump]

yeah like some piece can be used somewhere

[fresh ermine]

@dark stump Where did you see this tier list?

[potent pivot]

..tier lists

[fresh ermine]

it has havoc as B tier

jw what its for

[potent pivot]

looks like pve

[fresh ermine]

I mained havoc years ago just came back to the game last patch dont really have a main now

[hidden moth]

p sure thats just a list for

kyveza

[severe hazel]

just for my understanding. wouldnt it be more optimal to craft wrists for example since they are also 3 herdalries and there are no bis stats wrists for conq?

i guess they are wrists from bloody token vendor...?

[potent pivot]

you can just craft them later on

[hidden moth]

while wrists have main stat and rings do not the vast difference in secondarys rings and necks have over ur wrist

[potent pivot]

the priorities are tier+jewelry, then honor/tokens on off pieces

[hidden moth]

it doesnt compare

wrist is ur least valuable equipement slot on any class as it gives the least amount of stats

[potent pivot]

not necessarily true

[keen canopy]

i'm just saying the last time hunter got a set that looked good was Antorus

[potent pivot]

like their thought process is correct, but you can get other wrists in the mean time

[hidden moth]

at least in pve that statement holds 95% of the time

[hidden moth]

i can agree with this

[severe hazel]

thanks guys! forgot about the stat budget of items in general!

[dark stump]

which one about the assa? it's icy vein

[dark stump]

idk why they put it there

[hidden moth]

imagine reading icy veins

[dark stump]

this one ?

[tight hill]

shuffle is funny rn

[hidden moth]

nighthold

[keen canopy]

Yeah it's a good set

[dark stump]

am i the only having this problem ?

[keen canopy]

that is definitely interesting cant say ive seen that before

[potent pivot]

That looks like it might be a pc issue

[dark stump]

it only happen inside the barrier

[hidden moth]

what cpu are u using dawg

[gleaming sentinel]

Happens to me too in the dome

[dark stump]

my computer is not that old

like 4 years (kinda old)

2021 is the model

[hidden moth]

intel core i5 11400h

2021 model hmm

[spring bough]

That is gross

[hidden moth]

i dont know intel that well though

ryzen is the only way

[dark stump]

might by a pilot issue

i will download nvidia

forgot i reseted my computer since it got slow with all those programming langage and shit

[dark stump]

what's ur cpu ?

[hidden moth]

check ur drivers 2

[gleaming sentinel]

I7-10750H

[keen canopy]

bro i just had ky'veza bug out so hard

she literally just left the fight she said no and left

then she finally decided to come back to the arena so i could actually hit her
she does the shadow clone attack where you have to click the correct one
i cant click on any of them
i die

thank you blizzard

[hidden moth]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-seethe-mald-tf2-team-gif-23466119

[dark stump]

say hi to bobby

[hidden moth]

ez

[heady swift]

Check outdated addons, Settings like; MSAA combined with DLSS/FSR which is known to cause texture shimmering in WoW. Could try deleting your shader cache as well. Eeeeeuhm know that sometimes the dedicated gpu might get switched to default after downloading a new patch/expansion.

[hidden moth]

kyveza dead

[manic steppe]

is the reward a helmet?

[hidden moth]

ya

now to go do some delves to unlock ??

lol

[manic steppe]

how does it look

[hidden moth]

walked in and killed her in 16 minutes of attempting her lol

[manic steppe]

noice

[fresh ermine]

Should i go try it?

[keen canopy]

i mean it's not super hard

lower difficulty you could fall asleep on your keyboard and do

higher difficulty her autos do a morbillion damage but other than that it's not suppppeeerrrr different

[fresh ermine]

I've done all m0 on my war and some quests

pretty gamed out today

maybe ill do it tomorrow

[keen canopy]

her higher difficulty is like barely any different other than like
really only her clone attack is different she summons more of them

and her hp and damage are higher ofc

not that i've beaten her on that difficulty yet my rogue just cant take the autos and my tank characters i dont really feel like fighting her on

[fresh ermine]

Holy sweat batman

lol in legion i used to do every world quest on the map for artifact power

i'm abit more casual now

I dont have 5 mask unlocked

[keen canopy]

well i guess you gotta get visioning

[fresh ermine]

Yeah i might do some tomorrow

or farm honor on mop lol

[hidden moth]

doesnt take that long

[keen canopy]

nah gotta get honor cap on every retail character, then get gems for your honor gear week 1

[hidden moth]

do campaign and cloak is maybe 2 hours and u gotta do it anyways if u wanna enter the raid

[keen canopy]

this is what you gotta do to hit glad week 1 and then never log in again until the last week of the season

[hidden moth]

delves are easy af and a m0 world tour takes 2 hours if that

[fresh ermine]

yeah its my first season trying to get back into pve

i used to PVE in legion/bfa, quit slands s1

[keen canopy]

yeah you just gotta find people with a mouse and keyboard and m0 is whatever

i had this resto druid earlier in my group he pressed like 3 buttons and nothing else on his keyboard

not even an exaggeration

[hidden moth]

for my 2nd demon hunter for when i am quing 2x account do i go belf or nelf

hmm

[fresh ermine]

lol

I have 1x nelf 1x belf

[hidden moth]

i kinda pulled my m0s on my main like a timewalking

but tbf it was me and 4 other people who were 683+ and 3.2k io

[keen canopy]

belf dh supremacy

i say as a die hard alliance player

but this is the exception

[dark stump]

nelf is just too ugly and feel like just copying illidan

dh*

[keen canopy]

yeah say it louder for the people in the back

[hidden moth]

tbf nelf has better racials

[keen canopy]

yeah most of my rogues are nelf but you know it is what it is

[hidden moth]

its like

[dark stump]

sadge

void elf got pretty good racial for caster or mm hunter

[keen canopy]

i have a velf rogue and a human one so it balances out the 38 night elves

[fresh ermine]

Legion belf was sick aoe kick silence

[dark stump]

well it's now an aoe spell steal

rip

[fresh ermine]

lol purge you mean

you just remove not take

[dark stump]

ooh (i never used it)

[hidden moth]

nelf gets 1% haste or 1% crit depending on time ur playing belf gets 1% crit 24/7
1% reduced nature damage taken vs 1% reduced arcane damage w/e tbh
smeld vs aoe purge (u already get this on a 10 second cd 30 yrd range and aoe purges everything in a 10 yrd radius of ur target bc pvp talents)
and thats belf vs nelf racial until we see nelf has more
2% movement speed and 2% dodge chance increase
wisp spirit (mostly for rbg and bgb but still another racial)

[fresh ermine]

playing meta gets old lol

[hidden moth]

i just wish we had more dh race options but

doing some quests in new zone...

[keen canopy]

void elf dh when

[dark stump]

i'm thing of lvling veld hunter
only got 1 hunter and it's belf can't do outdoor content with my friend who from alliance

[hidden moth]

the hints at a 3rd dh spec and new races has become... even more

substantial

[dark stump]

is it possible to queue rgb with alliance member?

[hidden moth]

should be

u can duo bgb across factiosn

[fresh ermine]

more dh races would be insane lol

dh was my original main I did max level content on hard

[dark stump]

i'm thinking of doing pvp on dh and pala just for the elite set

[dark stump]

i still don't understand why it's exclusive to elf

maybe instead of the rumor for the new spec of dh it's velf dh

[hidden moth]

issue with void elf dh,
spatial rift on a 3 min isnt that beneficial for dh as a whole.
1% shadow damage reduction isnt notworthy but just for flavor the same as the nature and arcane dr from nelf belf
5% bonus damage and healing on a minute icd isnt terrible but 1% crit or haste is also p huge and has 100% uptime
spells arnt delayed by takign damage... dh doesnt cast at all

so really ur just getting a 5% damage buff for 12 seconds on a 1 min icd

[dark stump]

who said i wanted dh velf for the racial ?

i just don't want to be ugly but still be with the alliance

[keen canopy]

ok but have you considered i want to play blood elf but on alliance

[keen canopy]

yeah say it louder for the people in the back

[dark stump]

https://tenor.com/view/handshake-the-voyeurs-shake-hands-its-a-deal-made-an-agreement-gif-23030854

[hidden moth]

wym but ally lmfaooo

[keen canopy]

alliance is just better dont make the rules

[hidden moth]

ally vs horde doesnt matter anymore since its all cross play

[keen canopy]

yeah true

it's about the spirit

and being able to afk in stormwind

[dark stump]

Belf go well with any class (except war) but i want to be alliance cause my friend are in the alliance

[hidden moth]

not even relevant in the main citys since they are shared by those factions

[dark stump]

and having access to alliance portal are better

[gleaming sentinel]

It’s nice that killing spree doesn’t just not work if someone next to your target has Evasion etc up

[keen canopy]

alliance portals are better that's true

[hidden moth]

NOW NIGHTBORNE DH IS COOKIN
aoe 80% snare
1% magical damage done increase!!!!!

i mean still shit vs belf or nelf but better than velf by far

[dark stump]

nigthborne ? the mana addicted guy ?

[hidden moth]

ya

belfs are mana addicts to lmfao

[dark stump]

https://tenor.com/view/nightborne-illusion-an-illusion-what-are-you-hiding-astrille-gif-22238354

[hidden moth]

but pop off

[dark stump]

but at least they look like drug addict <_<

[keen canopy]

nightborne is actually a great race i really like the way they look but also i cant bring myself to play nightborne on anything that isn't an arcane mage

[dark stump]

plz don't tell me u're playing nether flux on arcane <_<

[keen canopy]

i haven't played my arcane mages this patch

but i've seen the screenshots

[dark stump]

yep funny the spell adding +125% damage

at first i misread it and was like waw +25%

[hidden moth]

withered and wretched are the same thing just different terms for which race the mana starved addict is lol

[keen canopy]

yeah i read that and didnt think it was that good ngl
but then i see these video's and screenshots
and i cant believe i was so wrong like SOOO wrong

i was like "oh 125% cant be that good"

wayyyy off

[hidden moth]

nightborne was my first allied race i unlocked back when u had to do the lojng as chain and acheievemntns vs the 5 minute chore of talk to this guy plz

[dark stump]

yeah but can ur nightborne do this

https://tenor.com/view/bloodelf-warcraft-napoleon-dynamite-gif-19082330

(this is a joke i never danced with my elf)

[keen canopy]

bro you just say u're

[dark stump]

find the problem here

[keen canopy]

10m barrage

what the hell

surely im reading that wrong

[dark stump]

i tought the same but monk are not that fragile

[keen canopy]

man

the monk was below like 35% right

[dark stump]

and he was still on touch karma (possibly)

[keen canopy]

no shot

[dark stump]

nop

overkill was 3m

[keen canopy]

what the hell is even going on chatters

[dark stump]

monk have on average 11m hp so he was probably at 7-8m if 3m was overkill

[keen canopy]

how is that not even bombardment damage

dude imagine they're below 35% so you get bombardment damage bonus

[dark stump]

i just found worse