pvp

[wind token]

Well, i was playing private server and subtley was top tier on single target

[vocal surge]

😉

[stoic spruce]

Tanks in general yes

[wind token]

Im pretty good with sub but assa sames also fine im currently levling assa

[spring bough]

no pumps today alt rogue without full gear lol

[stoic spruce]

I only listed 3. There are plenty more.

[dark kernel]

i get it. I just don't know how you do so much damage in lobbies. I get mega CC'd to SHIT half the time if Im not stunning the whole team

[stoic spruce]

There's about to be another good pvp talent to a tank next season

[dark kernel]

I even used your AOE cleave build to 2300 once

[hidden moth]

what lol

[spring bough]

smash buttons smash damage

[hidden moth]

the trap sigil for dh? for bgb?

[stoic spruce]

No

The one for bdk

[dark stump]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/rogue-guide

i don't know if this web site is good or no but they summarize each spec

[spring bough]

calling it now we see 10x more blood DK in season 3

[dark stump]

reason?

[wind token]

Ok thanks 🙂

[hidden moth]

look

[stoic spruce]

We probably are ngl

[hidden moth]

grip drs

so

im happyt

[spring bough]

they are doing dps level type damage in season 3 with tier and changes

[stoic spruce]

You can only grip twice in 30 seconds

[dark stump]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-hello-darkness-kermit-my-old-friend-drm-gif-9482307

[hidden moth]

grip 2x charge

25 second cdf

grip grip and grip

kekw

[dark kernel]

im watching one of my roughest high level lobbies

and I play so spastic

[stoic spruce]

Where's the 3rd grip coming from?

[hidden moth]

iirc blood has a reduced grip cd

[dark stump]

playing arcane against dk is a nightmare

[hidden moth]

gorfiend

[stoic spruce]

I think it only applies to death grip

[dark stump]

Dk can go grip silence grip asphyx silence etc...

[hidden moth]

the grip dr

is mostly

[dark stump]

unless there's dr

[stoic spruce]

Dk can't have both stun and silence anymore

[hidden moth]

for bgb

blood cant just kidnap ur priests

[hidden moth]

thats a thing even now lol

[dark stump]

when i said silence i meant interrupt
asphyx is the silence

[hidden moth]

also ghoul stun

and silence

kekw

[dark stump]

the worst is frost dk pillar frost
you see death in front of you but you can't escape

[stoic spruce]

Ghoul stun is a kick disguised as a stun

Just fucks drs

[dark stump]

i never used it

[stoic spruce]

You gotta be careful with it

[dark stump]

i think i never used any pet active spell
mage water element , ghoul etc...

[stoic spruce]

You're crazy for that

[hidden moth]

good

[stoic spruce]

??

[dark stump]

still hit 1k8 on all those class

[stoic spruce]

I think you're rage baiting me

[hidden moth]

u can keybiund wely ice nova into ur icy veins button

[stoic spruce]

Ggs

[hidden moth]

learned that trick off ageis

[stoic spruce]

More patient than I

[dark stump]

no i'm serious
with frost i just grabbed everyone used pillar frost and prayed that my teams stun them

[stoic spruce]

Not you

I even replied so there wouldn't be confusion

[dark stump]

i played both frost and arcane
i prefer arcane with the gatling arcane missile and arcane orb (which will sadly partially disappear)

[hidden moth]

wym

best thing a uh ghoul can do i sh ave stun on auto cast

[spring bough]

any1 have a fix for ur rraid frame disappearing when entering a BG?

[hidden moth]

so it resets stun dr when its .1 second from being no dr

[hidden moth]

uhhhhhh

settings

[stoic spruce]

I need to bust out my prot warr for 2s

I'll give you Bodyguard

[spring bough]

what setting lol

[spring bough]

prot outlaw im sold

[stoic spruce]

Hell yeah

We'll be unkillable

Bodyguard is insane

You know about that?

Some crazy % of damage you take gets redirected to the tank

[spring bough]

sick so ima sit 100% take reduced dmg too from feint and evasion and just rip people

[stoic spruce]

Imma knock the rust off for you

Get ready

It got buffed not too too long ago I think

I'll enjoy outlaw vicariously through you.

[jaunty osprey]

🙂

[stoic spruce]

What's the problem?

[dark stump]

black arrow at 5m oof

[stoic spruce]

Maybe don't cross one of wows main characters

[dark stump]

at least it wasn't elem

oh wait it was double mm xD

[jaunty osprey]

i pressed trinket evasion

and then they instantlytabbed the monk

[stoic spruce]

They fucked your shit up cuh

[jaunty osprey]

LMAO

[gleaming sentinel]

me and vancleef terrorized this arms / aff

@spring bough

[spring bough]

yeah and that lobby terrorized me and bent me over the otherr rounds lmao

[dark stump]

The VanCleef bender comp xD

[hidden moth]

wait

van is unbanned

[spring bough]

nah this my burner account this my fourth rogue lol

4 duelists outlaws for the season now XD

[hidden moth]

raid frmes / bgb

raid frames / bge

[spring bough]

BGE setting got it thanks

man its brutal playing on an account without the AH or mog mount

[safe pelican]

Playing with the poors I see brother 😂

Almost s3 lets goooooooo

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-des-caraïbes2-pirates-of-the-caribbean2-pirates-menace-threat-gif-19754159

[spring bough]

finally outlaw gonna PEW PEW

then we gonna clench for the first few weeks checking wowhead blue posts

i better see NOTHING but yellow flood this channel

[sterile prairie]

.

[safe pelican]

Lmfaoooooo it’s funny, but it’s true… I’ll roll sum pirate for the family but gotta gear my sub rogue first

[dark kernel]

Straight legend this season, glad push

[hidden moth]

wow token time

[spring bough]

there is some warrior at 2230 playing in FULL greens with 0 tier.... LMAOOOO

[sterile prairie]

how

[spring bough]

he def trolling. one round hes all greens next he is full conquest gear

[sterile prairie]

ah

wish i could que with greys

[spring bough]

yall nerds see a live action Naruto gonna happen

[hidden moth]

please tell me sakura is being cast as whoopi goldberg

[spring bough]

dont look like its coming out for a minute

[hidden moth]

Still hopin its whoopi

[grave basin]

@gleaming sentinel are ya winning son

still going or gg no re?

[gleaming sentinel]

jsut practicing sub

Was one lobby short and just tanked lol wcyd

[vocal surge]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-reaction-really-gif-27425089

^Outlaw Rogues checking patch notes S3 every week making sure they haven't gotten nerfed

[dark kernel]

literallyme

[hidden moth]

ight lads which weps do i rock here

[gleaming sentinel]

bottom left, everyone does TF

[sterile prairie]

Bottom left fits more but TF is kinda just him

[hidden moth]

tbf i think its mostly due to the flashy lightning when u blade dance n stuff

@potent pivot @grave basin

ur thoughts

[grave basin]

i either use double TF or warglaives

any other option is wrong unless you have the burning blades warglaives

[hidden moth]

non of my glaives fit the armor coloring really

[grave basin]

looks cool when you BD

[gleaming sentinel]

meanwhile im going stukov vibes

[dark kernel]

i don't really use these weps much

[heady swift]

this could help

[potent pivot]

Think the red on red fits better with the set ig

Could also use the mt glaives

[hidden moth]

didnt play legio

dont have mt glaives

[dark kernel]

thats very sick

tabard looks like elite season 1?

[heady swift]

its from legion

dominant season

[dark kernel]

ahh

I had people in greens with 0 games today at 2200

season is just doggo at the end

[edgy vine]

idk man Im stuck at 2098

washed

3/6 3/6

[dark kernel]

You chose the rough life with outlaw my friend

[hidden moth]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-touch-grass-stay-mad-anime-cringe-gif-775928063121325688

blizzards message to outlaw s2 and s3

[edgy vine]

True

[hybrid sapphire]

all my shits grey is the season OVER? its 10pst

😭 i was gonna pull an all nighter

jk i have work tomororw tfg im outta this joint

[edgy vine]

Grats dude

Did you get your 50wins?

Or ist that solo?

[hybrid sapphire]

Shuff 🙃

[severe hazel]

Guys what is there to do pvp wise when 11.2 launches? Is there new honor gear we can farm during the off season week? Also will the new cloak be any relevant for pvp?

[grave basin]

Come back after reset

We don't know either

[grave basin]

Ggs friends

[indigo lava]

in less than 1 week before S3 🙂

[potent pivot]

Usually the pve items aren’t relevant in pvp

They tend to have their effects nerfed by 50-75% in pvp combat

[grave basin]

good job buddy

[hard compass]

Well I ran out of time to push elite this season, grats everyone who hit their goals!

We’re so much closer to the new elite set now!

[grave basin]

i just hope we have a week to get the honor set

unlike the start of s2

[grave basin]

man watching pika push for his glad wins

and he's playing the best rogue spec (feral)

[surreal kestrel]

Hi everyone, a few questions: Do you use macro's for targetting in arenas? I struggle to quickly switch between players to cc them for example as I currently just use my mouse lol

Also, how do you guys do movement? wasd or mouse?

Last thing: with the more mobile classes I struggle to track them when there's a lot of spells being cast. Is there an add on that makes it easier to locate enemies on-screen?

[gusty hedge]

wasd plus mouse. Focus macros are good to have, alot use arena 123 macros( best if you can bind them)
better blizz plates/frames you can have nameplates showing for team/enemy, you can adjust how big u want the nameplates, and option to have an arrow above names, also nameplate cooldown to track (should work with blizzbetter addon)

edit: u can go to options and enable mouse over cast and mouse over and hit your moves aswell.
i use focus/mouseover

[gusty hedge]

gratzz 🔥 🔥 🔥 i fell asleep and missed chance to push my other rogues😭

[dark stump]

was wondering are u gonna do pvp or pve content at the new patch ?

[severe hazel]

is there anything special about talents these days or can i just copy w/e rogue on check pvp?

[hidden moth]

Arena 1 2 3 keybinds

[hidden moth]

Wasd, a and d rebound to strafe and I turn with the mouse

[dark stump]

In my case i set my eyes on gladius ui and tab if i rlly need to interrupt someone

for rogue you might need macro but for mage that's what i did

[hidden moth]

Really no pvp stuff to do this week aside honor farm

Vs get pve hero track gear in vault filled out and get m0s done the new campaign and your cloak

(Cloak is important in pve as blizz removed all cloaks from the loot tables in keys and the raid so u get rushi wraps for ur cloak or nothing)

[dark stump]

bruh

[hidden moth]

I mean it’s insane

So u get a pvp cloak and the new cloak ez

New cloak is 1 stat so u get 2x 1 stat vs 2 stats at lower value and its effects are bug

It’s also 730 ilvl lol

[dark stump]

why does the cloak is not used in pvp ? it was the same for the belt

[hidden moth]

Needed

Nerfed

[dark stump]

ooh

[hidden moth]

The effects are reduced by 50-75%

Same with siren isle ring

It’s a good thing

[dark stump]

my english is kinda bad so i don't understand what u meant here

[dark kernel]

I honestly forgot the aisle ring existed

That thing was pretty good even after the nerfs with one of the setups

[hidden moth]

Cloaks give say 100 vers 100 mastery

The new cloak gives 200 mastery

Same stat totals but all focused into one stat of your choice

[dark stump]

oooh

it's pretty good

[spring bough]

So what time yall think servers come back today

3 hours past the first announcement? Lol

[dark stump]

when will the serv be down?

[glass hazel]

3-5 as always

they will extend it 2-3 times as well i think

[dark kernel]

6pm central

[safe pelican]

Usually this

Gotta wait for Cali to get off work to make it “ fair “ lol

[fresh ermine]

I Can't Believe I Quit My Job For This Patch lol

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/nerdspeak-clown-pepe-clown-car-joker-gif-17987041856170791326

[grave basin]

i already took leave on the 13th

[dark kernel]

I'm off work tomorrow, unrelated to the game

I'm old

[dark kernel]

A guy in my guild finished #1 pres evoker NA on shuffle

Holy shit

I didn't even know he was that good 💀

[fresh ermine]

I finished #1 NA #2 World havoc dh in m+ bfa season 1

and the season previous to that top 7 for havoc and vengeance world

might get into M+ again this patch

[grave basin]

we got some gamers here

dont bully us dads

[fresh ermine]

I didn't even get to do pve this season.. was so hard to gear its my first season back in 5 years

[stoic spruce]

im pveing this season

absolutely nothing exciting is happening in the pvp scene

every elite set is mid at best

[dark kernel]

Ablahfbhduddhbd

I like a few of em

[spring bough]

Rogue set is ass not gonna lie

Warrior is on the third iteration of previous tier looks

[gleaming sentinel]

Is outlaw good today? Today is the day?

[spring bough]

Today is the day. Got my burner rogue ready. And no reply from blizz three days later on my appeal…..

[dark kernel]

I think the rogue set is cool. First time I like the general glad set better than elite

We needed a white set

https://tenor.com/view/dave-blunts-dave-blunt-the-cup-i-cant-put-down-the-cup-dave-blunt-falling-gif-2271291953981182253

[spring bough]

s2 Dragonflight lfr set with smoke shoulders is the single best rogue set I’ve seen in years

All white party bby

[dark kernel]

That was the shredder set right?

[spring bough]

Yup

[dark kernel]

Was it white? Dead serious

[glass hazel]

dunno all sets kinda meh compared to df

[dark kernel]

I liked the set, but Season 1 was my favorite for pvp anyway

[orchid plinth]

Rogue set has teal = I like

[stoic spruce]

I blame you for my lack of pvp this season

[fresh ermine]

lol

i literally leveled everything max and then some and took like 2 and ahalf months off the season this season

[tight hill]

2398 i get double pal evoker

do i logout lol

[orchid plinth]

Tired of every fucking rogue set looking like a gaming monitor: "oh yeah black and red daring today are we?"

[grave basin]

all i know is

pre season shuffle is gonna be the wild west

with all the new changes and we dont have any of the new gear

[dark kernel]

Yeah. I anticipate we're kind of ass because of the set bonuses

[lusty meteor]

We just honor farming this week? Or does anyone have a quick guide... Gotta do my " oh its a new season WOW pvp grind"

[grave basin]

just do whatever we did in s2..

[hidden moth]

Wait we have guilds

[hidden moth]

Shaman case closed

GUYS SERVERS ARE UP

[fresh ermine]

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/season-end-and-new-content-reminders/582593

[tight hill]

ehhh, first ever season and got it by the skin of my teeth, damn stressful last games

[fresh ermine]

Lol

season 3 bfa I stayed up til the 10am reset basically grinding glad

got all 50 wins overnight

from 2.2 rating start

[tight hill]

insane, lucky you quit your job

[jaunty osprey]

GRATS TO ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN ON A SUCCESSFUL SEASON

I HOPE YOU ALL HIT YOUR GOALS

[manic steppe]

do you stream or like record your games would like to learn assa

[hidden moth]

Servers are upppppp!!!! Legggoooo

We got honor gear available rn

BEST PATCH EVER!!!

[dark kernel]

Wait real?

[gleaming sentinel]

Who’s farming full sockets for honor gear? If you’re a real one

[dark kernel]

Hell fucking no. I didn't even get full sockets on my main last season

I was only missing one, but there was like a month left in the season and I wasn't going to bother

[spring bough]

All white buddy

[spring bough]

😂

[jaunty osprey]

I’ll probably start streaming again next season - not allowed to link, but it’s there somewhere 🙂

[jaunty osprey]

Already?! Woah

[manic steppe]

i found it, ty for the hint

[fresh ermine]

Lol he posted servers are up twice and all I see is people on mop on my net @hidden moth

[dark stump]

meanwhile Europe server maintenance didn't even start

[wide heath]

when does it start EU ?

do we know or

[gusty hedge]

servers are up boiz

[spring bough]

So how OP is outlaw right now

[pliant mauve]

Damn, so honor gear doesn't drop til next week?

[gusty hedge]

yeah no honor gear

[hidden moth]

Servers are up

[gusty hedge]

trickster is the way with new ks. even with 3 min cd i had got almost 3 -4 uses before i got a 2nd use of ks(with fatebound), on target dummy tho so looped combat, need to test on players

[hidden moth]

I’m at work idk if they are up

The 3rd post is true but that’s after a friend confirmed they are up I’m driving home shortly lmfao

I baited half this chat 3X lmfao

[gleaming sentinel]

We do big dam?

[spring bough]

Big dam doing big dam

[gleaming sentinel]

I just want legend to not be impossible as outlaw and I will not go sub / assa

[abstract stratus]

The fatebound damage buffs look kinda interesting for sin, gonna test some stuff when I get home to see if it’s any better

[hidden moth]

are we all still, using s2 conq gear rn?

or are we doing pve for pvp gear for the week xd

[fresh ermine]

Your mum called she said s2 gear sucks now lol @hidden moth

[hidden moth]

we dont have any s3 gear

[fresh ermine]

xDDDDDD

[hidden moth]

outside of pve

kekw

[stoic lava]

I miss old skilling spree already

[bronze pelican]

wtf, my arena rating has just gone grey now... can i still get the elite set at 1800?

[hidden moth]

no

lol

season ended last night

this is patch week to do story stuff and new zone bs then s3 starts next week

[bronze pelican]

no way of getting it?

[dark kernel]

I'm sorry friend

[hidden moth]

gone forever

war within classic though

didnt see this change

they removed the mage chance to proc icy veins/ time warp etc talent and replaced it with 6% int

[bronze pelican]

i was legit just playing now.. and then all of a sudden it went grey

i was 5 points off.

fuming.

[hidden moth]

are u eu?

bc the rating shouldve went grey almost a day ago

[dark kernel]

EU season ended like 20 mins ago I think

Or an hour and 20

Dude I know finished glad with 46 minutes left

[hidden moth]

ah

[hidden moth]

wait u got it?

[dark kernel]

Nah nah punctuation (A) dude I know, he finished glad with 46 minutes

I am dog shit

[bronze pelican]

i was playing just now so yea 20 mins ago

[hidden moth]

rip

[severe hazel]

so w/o honor gear there is nothing to do pvp wise?

maybe cap honort but thats it?

[hidden moth]

farm honor

but yeah

go do pve shit

explore new zone

m0s delves etc

[bronze pelican]

for EU you gotta wait til tomorrow

[hidden moth]

yarp

eu is just able to finish keys push m+ rating for title etc

[severe hazel]

ok i see

im just chilling doing bgs then. done with pve for now after s1 and 2

s3 pvp arc inc

can we keep legend titles from shuffle after the season or are they season based as well?

[hidden moth]

yes and no

r1 titles stay

legend etc reset

[severe hazel]

ah i see

thanks!

sorry one more question because im so out of the loop. new honor gear will be better than last ssn epic?

[hidden moth]

yes

[severe hazel]

sweet so now is basically the best time to make the switch. just finished s2 honor gear to not be fully nacked but ye

do bloody tokens reset?

[hidden moth]

yarp

they already did

[gleaming sentinel]

Why?

[stoic lava]

New one doesn't do that much damage and now we've lost the utility of the damage immune/delay of the old one

just feels like a downgrade

[gleaming sentinel]

Everyone told me it’s op

[hidden moth]

op

[gleaming sentinel]

Why you breaking my heart

[hidden moth]

until i gouge u out of the 7 cp ks animation .3 seconds into u using it

or just lock gate away from u/ port/ blink / waddle away

[stoic lava]

I mostly just do blitz and being able to immune/delay damage had a lot of utility so

it feels bad but

it should of made you immune to cc like bladestorm

[hidden moth]

it doesnt

lol

[stoic lava]

it does like 30% of the damage of a bladestorm and has 0 utility

its just a bda ability

[stoic lava]

ye im saying it SHOULD

would be really fun and honestly not that op for outlaw if it worked like that

[hidden moth]

pvp talent inc

just liike celestial conduit pvp talent for monk

[stoic lava]

yea

that'd be good

[stoic lava]

I just want to know who told you its op haha

[gleaming sentinel]

My cope told me

[stoic lava]

😱

not the cope

[gleaming sentinel]

My 3s partners (they don’t exist)

[dark kernel]

I literally think those abilities are awful game design

[stoic lava]

why?

[dark kernel]

It seems that because Blizzard has had such a rough time with managing CC because of player skill that the answer is giving players CC immune skills

[gleaming sentinel]

I think they are somewhat necessary considering how much fucking piss cc there is

[dark kernel]

Its like what happened slowly into MoP

Where every class started getting everything.

Every class has a kick, every class has 3DRs of CC, every class has a CC immune, 2 defensives

[stoic lava]

I mean things that give you the chance to outplay is good though

as long as you have to do it pre

not during

if you could conduit out of cc and then become immune thats cringe but

[dark kernel]

I'm not saying just conduit

I don't think bladestorm should be like that, druid tree, angel form, etc.

DH backflip is like the only pass and I hate that shit too

[hidden moth]

not every class had defensives if they did we wouldnt have needed hunter and monk defensive reworks in df

also not having a kick on ur class is a pve issue

if u dont have a kick ur prob not getting invited to keys

[hidden moth]

channled stuff like blade storm would be useless

[gleaming sentinel]

Man I’m going sub fuck it

[hidden moth]

imagine poping ur big cd and oop

triple dr on stun took u out of it

almost as bad as death mark being dispellable

[dark kernel]

That's ideal. I'm semi meming but not really. I just don't think every class could have immune abilities

And for the record. You did used to be able to be CCd in bladestorm.

In wrath

[hidden moth]

idr that in wotlk classic

[dark kernel]

Not classic

I meant vanilla

[hidden moth]

u mean a patch before one of the final ones

when they made it so u cannot

[dark kernel]

Yes

I think it was changed in like season 7

[hidden moth]

meaning it was also non cc able in wotlk vanilla at some point

so like togc lol

basically half of wrath

[dark kernel]

I mean here's my thought

Bladestorm right now is piss, and it's mostly used to block CC

[hidden moth]

it does okay dam

but fair

[dark kernel]

I'd rather killing spree be lethal, and able to be CCd

Rather than do piss, and immune

[hidden moth]

if it does its damage over 7 seconds

is that eve ngood dam?

[dark kernel]

Where is 7 seconds coming from

[hidden moth]

to me good dam in pvp would be 7 secodns of ks damage all wraped in a 2 second 3 second window at most

1 second per cp

no?

[dark kernel]

No

Its 3 seconds maxed reduced by haste

[gleaming sentinel]

Prob closer to 5, no?

[dark kernel]

I know with energized it affects it but it's capped to a degree

I think it goes down to .2 seconds per CP spent

With 7+3 energized that's like 2.1 seconds cast

[lapis spear]

guys when can i start to farm conquer? is it now or next week?

[dark kernel]

Next week

[potent pivot]

^

[lapis spear]

ty

[exotic dove]

The relax week is this week

[severe hazel]

do you auto get weps from achievement again?

[spring bough]

Did they do tokens/sparks quest this week or nah

[spring bough]

Prob

[severe hazel]

what was it week 2?

[potent pivot]

idts

[dark kernel]

No sir

[potent pivot]

no

week 3-4

[spring bough]

Damn they shoulda gave us a week head start for tokens lol

[potent pivot]

2500 conquest earned

[severe hazel]

what was cap per week?

[dark kernel]

So there is something important. This week you actually DO get vault progress for next week.

[potent pivot]

1600 w1 +600 each week iirc

[dark kernel]

Which means capping your vault gives you a chance for tier

[potent pivot]

that could change though

[dark kernel]

On week 1

[hard compass]

is season over in eu now?

[potent pivot]

prob

[dark kernel]

Yeah

90 mins agoish

[hard compass]

ok tyy

[hidden moth]

toes located

[hard compass]

ah, a fellow man of culture i see

[hidden moth]

ya

capping vault is important

[dark kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/licking-lips-yummy-yum-delicious-gif-25780510

[hidden moth]

so doing ur 6 m0s + 2 m0s u already cleared this week for 3/3 dungeon vault slots and 8 t8 delves for 3 slots as well

the m0 slots will be champ track but t8 delves vault slots give hero

[dark kernel]

Yesh

Being able to get a tier in vault on week1 and then 1600 piece opens up some more stuff

[spring bough]

That’s pretty cool for pve

[dark kernel]

I think you could almost have 3 pieces on week

[hidden moth]

vault 1600 and the free charge

and potential lfr/ normal tier drop

[spring bough]

Can we get heroic level gear from a delve thru the vault for next week

[potent pivot]

don't forget we have the conquest items to turn gear into tier as well

[spring bough]

Cause if u get luck a heroic level tier item would be a great filler

[hidden moth]

I JUST SAID THIS

[dark kernel]

No it's capped to m0

[hidden moth]

[spring bough]

I didn’t read I’m too blinded by tryna login

[dark kernel]

The new loot available this week is low ilvl

[hidden moth]

hero track vault 6/6 is at least = if not higher ilvl than the honor gear would be

[spring bough]

Almost 4 days and blizz still hasn’t provided evidence of why I got suspended…. Does any1 work there

There should be a button to un ban urself if they don’t provide evidence within a certain time frame

[dark kernel]

Evidence lmao

Isn't it in the email?

[hidden moth]

breh

[spring bough]

No. It said inappropriate comm/spam. So I appealed and asked them to provide me what was the reported communication and I’ve got nothing

[hidden moth]

it took 8 days for them to get a reply to me when i messaged about a 7 day silence bc my macro accidently spamed lfg chat in classic

[spring bough]

Oh cool so they’ll get back to me by august 24 when the suspensions up then

Wonder if they’ll give me free game time too for the whole month they just stole

[hidden moth]

LMFAOOO

ur either memeing or delusional

[spring bough]

Bros charged me then suspended me. What a good company

Priority is money and nothing else to them

isnt the new honor gear out? where the hell the vendor at

[potent pivot]

no

[hidden moth]

get fucked- blizz

[spring bough]

all u MFs in here saying it was out earlier smh

[severe hazel]

guys i just noticed an item on the vendor that turns any pve set item to a pvp item. is that something new from s2

[hidden moth]

yes

it lets u take a piece of tier u got from pve

and add the extra ilvl in pvp

so u dont have to worry about " i can only use catalyst for either pve or pvp"

[severe hazel]

super sweet actually

[hidden moth]

so u can pvp and pve on the same toon without being trolled by the one conversion per 2 weeks

[spring bough]

1 full KS as trick doing 7 milly plus to the pvp dummy LMAO

26 seconds on the pvp dummy and one full KS as trickster going hard

[dark kernel]

We need tier

[potent pivot]

[hidden moth]

0 vers 0 armor

[dark kernel]

Tbh that's not great lol

[potent pivot]

dummy has some armor

bee tee dubs

[severe hazel]

is there no stuff like what to do early season etc? i didnt find a single video on youtube pvp related

[potent pivot]

[potent pivot]

nothing

u chill w1

[hidden moth]

w1 is chill week

[potent pivot]

farm honor if u don't have many honor caps

[gleaming sentinel]

get cloak if you pve, do campaign

[hidden moth]

bc its the week for everyone to DO THE CAMPAIGN AND NEW ZONE SHIT

[severe hazel]

yeah but i mean in general like gearing early season etc. seemed like pvp coverage is pretty deadge

[hidden moth]

not yelling just emphasising

[spring bough]

New PvP area live right now?

[hidden moth]

tbh week 1 aside from vault

is just alt catch up gear lol

[spring bough]

Bout to go smoke some of yall in the new pvp area if it’s out

[gleaming sentinel]

im doing less dps to the dummy than i was yesterday

[potent pivot]

Ye that happens sometimes on new seasons

Tuning/design changes and/or bugs etc

Dummy numbers should be kinda ignored usually

[severe hazel]

is the vault relevant in any way pvp wise?

[jolly sierra]

was used to

no anymore

[gleaming sentinel]

Oof killing spree is such a long channel…. 😩

[spring bough]

looks like we gotta do some campaign to get to the vanquisher island? its that lone islane on the top of K'aresh's map

[indigo hill]

Anyone know if the reshi cloak will be used for pvp?

[potent pivot]

No one knows yet but probably not

[indigo hill]

Cheers.

[fresh ermine]

I just got the reshii cloak

lol did they reset bloodstones?

[gleaming pawn]

The cloak would need the boots, and the boots power is based on getting them in Mythic. So no I doubt we’d be using the Wraps

[jolly sierra]

neither for ilvls?

[hybrid sapphire]

should i be farming honor rn? i forget when they reset everything?

[gleaming pawn]

We won’t be max level cloak for quite a while, and if the proc (which scales with ilvl) starts doing good damage in PvP you know they’ll hit it with a modifier nerf

[gleaming pawn]

Honor does not reset, you need 12k to buy a full set of gear next week

[jolly sierra]

k, gotta skip k'aresh for now tho

before the season finishes in EU, gotta buy a lot of conq boa gear for my lock

[hybrid sapphire]

ty bb

[gleaming pawn]

It might have to wait for 4-piece, but I’m excited to try out a single target or maybe more hybrid Fatebound Sin build. It’s got some real potential this season

[hidden moth]

HOLY SHIT

the server that i sell boosts in is spam pinging me for m0 world tour carrys lmfao

[gleaming pawn]

Get carried already, duh

[hidden moth]

its less so carried

its more so

they are getting boosters who are not locked so

buyer goes in and class stacks so say ur a rogue buying

the 5 man donigthe tour would be all leather wearers prob melee as well who funnel the loot to the buyer

selling carry nah selling loot funnel yes

[gleaming pawn]

Honestly though, who tf is buying m0 carries/loot funnels the first day for gear that starts at 681

There’s no way such people exist

[jolly sierra]

this fkn party was chernobyl

[gleaming sentinel]

ok so killing spree seems to hit hard af

[hidden moth]

the list continues

[gleaming pawn]

Stupid people and their gold are easily parted I guess

[hidden moth]

tbf

liquid does the same stuff

for rwf

they pay guilds to loot funnel 2-3 people a full normal/heroic raid worth of gear just to complete tier sets

[gleaming pawn]

Yes but not shit m0 loot day one of the patch. These people buying this shit would be better served getting carried through +2 keys next week

[hidden moth]

yes but no

bc they wont be buying m+ bc thats spamable

they will run them

they are buying loot funnel bc u get 1 lockout all week and ontop of maxing funnel for easier time puishing next week u also get 3x chance at tier in vault

[dark kernel]

What is mythic zero eye level this week

It can't be something crazy high, it's probably like 670

They usually don't make it higher than the highest of the last season

[hidden moth]

681

lol

champ 1/8

and u can use baby bitch crests to make it 4/6 at 693

bc ideally u only need like 225 runed crests to be completly done with runed crests for the whole season as well

but u dont use runed crests hiting champ 4/6

[dark kernel]

Interesting I didn't know the mythic zero Ilvl jumper be so high

[hidden moth]

tbf max ilvl went from 684 to 723

base spark crafting no crests added is 691 as well

[grave basin]

Good morning bois

Is the new honor gear out

[hidden moth]

[grave basin]

Typical

[hidden moth]

whats everyones thoughts on the story so far?

[safe pelican]

No reason in playing rn until like Aug 9th-10th right

Like do we really need this new cloak? Or is it gunna be busted like the ring when it first came out

[jolly sierra]

chris metzen was not the real cure for the dying lore

[dark stump]

? what happened ?

[hidden moth]

dont need cloak but some cool stuff in the new zones

[hidden moth]

quite a bit of retcons

not terrible retcons, they make sense but

retcons nonthe less

[jolly sierra]

and too much lack of flawed characters

but real ones

[hidden moth]

like legion illidan was actually a good guy

[jolly sierra]

faelin is kinda a lisa simpson in the arathi questline

[hidden moth]

lack of flawed characters? alleria and locus walker were p flawed ngl

[jolly sierra]

2 from how much

[dark stump]

let's forget the arathi questline please i feel like puking just from remembering it

[jolly sierra]

we have since shadowlands this shortage

[hidden moth]

xalatath was chill af too i did like the whole angel and devil on ur shoulder thing they had goiong between xala and alleria

[hidden moth]

metzen came back to wwi not slands but fair

[jolly sierra]

was forced af to trust her and make her join

[jolly sierra]

he rejoined in DF

[hidden moth]

the whole saga thing was anounced as him coming back to fix the story

[jolly sierra]

welp

emmmmmmm

[hidden moth]

Not worked directly on Dragonflight
Chris Metzen has not worked directly on Dragonflight. He was the Executive Creative Director for the Warcraft franchise, which includes World of Warcraft, but he did not take on a role in the development of Dragonflight itself.

[jolly sierra]

[hidden moth]

metzen legit came back and worked on titan soul saga

didnt do the whole arathi quest stuff maybe that will play a part later but tbh thought it was just a gear catchup patch

[jolly sierra]

is still pretty bad the story tbh

you still have big baddies without too much complexity in the main story

comparable to the nipple bald man

moira's son is alright as nerd, but you feel he needs some development

[hidden moth]

who lol

dimensius? a literal void lord? not like we are actually going to get character development from a void lord that wants to destroy everything

[jolly sierra]

the guys which resummoned dimensius

not dimensius itself

[hybrid sapphire]

ok but i wanna make an ethereal rogue. not the modern kind the the old nagrand kind tbh

[jolly sierra]

why tf u wanna revive the guy

[hidden moth]

we have had lore on salhadaar since tbc lol

[jolly sierra]

which literally destroyed ur world

ye and i recall killing dimensius too

in tbc

[dark stump]

iridikron ?

[hidden moth]

lol no

iridikron is on the back burner rn

[jolly sierra]

the etherals

btw how an etheral comes back

after dying

[hidden moth]

tbf we still have 2 more campaign chapters to do to find their motives etc

and get more nexus king lore

[jolly sierra]

hope is not as dumb as devos' motives

and metzen does something

but the bar is very low

tbh

[hidden moth]

and what we fought in tbc was a image of diminsus

[jolly sierra]

was a shard

not the whole thing

[hidden moth]

like the avatar of sargeras something not strong yet

[grave basin]

ive completely lost any interest after the power of friendship trope

in DF

[hidden moth]

WE DONT HAVE THAT IN WWI THANK FUCKING GOD

[jolly sierra]

XD

[grave basin]

or typical evil woman turns to our side

[hidden moth]

nah

[grave basin]

who was that ice bitch

[hidden moth]

oh the primal dragon girl

ye

it kinda made sense

[grave basin]

yea but so overplayed

[hidden moth]

ya

xala is still very much evil and can be seen in her quest text / dialog

[jolly sierra]

xala'toes should make an OL only from feet pics and would have all gold in azeroth

rather than trying to do BS and being chased off by alleria and us

[dark stump]

your tought on the old god and N'zoth ?

[hidden moth]

also after mana forge raid we still gotta see how it ends and what happens to lead us to midnight

[hidden moth]

u mean the minions of the void lords lmfao

[dark stump]

was pretty good story

[jolly sierra]

hope they doesn't turns arator into a child of darkness and light

[dark stump]

until now i'm still wondering about why they named the expansion like this

[jolly sierra]

that would be dumb af

[hidden moth]

tbh i think xala just gets some dimensius power and goes ham

[hidden moth]

void lords darkness night

we def gonna take some form of L in the raid

[jolly sierra]

i wanna xala'toes to be tricked back and being backfired

no redemption or some weird stuff

hope by an unknown void lord

[grave basin]

actually i take that back

i lost interest during the Jlor arc

ive buried those memories deep lol completely forgot about that

[jolly sierra]

pelagos was a pretty bad character

df ending too

[hidden moth]

also salahar could be bringing void lord back bc fuck the raval and locus walker for nuking karesh and xformingtheir whole people into etereals

[jolly sierra]

tbh don't expect too much at this point

[grave basin]

i mean metzen is their only hope

[jolly sierra]

i swear

if is just to "bring them back to their old selves" knowing how troll the void is

i am out

[hidden moth]

nah

not that

being petty

[grave basin]

any1 knows wheres bane

[hidden moth]

like

'u fucked us over our wortld our bodies

[grave basin]

is he still stuck in oribos

baine'

[hidden moth]

im doing everything i can to make sure u suffer

[jolly sierra]

being cucked by mayla with a grimtotem

[hidden moth]

even if thats crashing out to the point a void lord eats the whole of existence

[grave basin]

the arathor questline was pretty bad too

[jolly sierra]

even depression would be a fair motive

[grave basin]

fffffOOrr AzzEErrooTHHH

i mean bruh

[jolly sierra]

the centaur DF quest was too

baine was only bitching and barking at the wrong tree

[grave basin]

you can design cool female characters'

like garona

or valeera

but this new wave is just piss

[jolly sierra]

or thalyssra

[grave basin]

just self inserts

[jolly sierra]

probably the best recent character rn

[grave basin]

garona is pretty harcore

her backstory too

[jolly sierra]

ik

garona for me is the best rogue overall in azeroth, not valeera

[grave basin]

or even

vanessa

vancleef

[jolly sierra]

but by abilities probably is lillian voss

not skill itself

ye, horde has a very big chunk of powerful rogues

the thing in lore i find dumb af

is how tf 10k years later you still resent mages dude

fkn tyrande they wanna a home, not tricking you, stop tossing the dhs, worgens, mages and forsaken to the back alley in bel'ameth

[hidden moth]

they dont resent them

anymore but it makes sense

[jolly sierra]

tyrande does

[hidden moth]

to ban mages

[jolly sierra]

always did

[hidden moth]

YA BC ITS THEIR FAULT FOR SUMONING THE LEGION

blowing the contenent apart

[jolly sierra]

DUDE THE MAGES IN SURAMAR LIT FOUGHT AGAINST THE LEGION

also

[hidden moth]

AND THEY ARE ALL CRACK ADDICTS

[jolly sierra]

10k fucking years

how tf

[hidden moth]

OR DID WE SKIP WITHERED AND WRETCHED IN TBC AND LEGION

[jolly sierra]

u can resent them

for 10k thousand years

[hidden moth]

how are people still racist today?

[dark stump]

<_<

[dark stump]

IRL or in game?

[potent pivot]

_>

<_>

[jolly sierra]

OH YEAH, IMAGINE FOUGHT YOUR OWN PPL AND TRY TO MAKE AMEND BY EVEN SHUTTING DOWN YOUR SOURCE OF POWER

[potent pivot]

<_<

[dark stump]

i said nothing

[jolly sierra]

oh oh

fkn tyrande forgive them once per all

[vocal surge]

Ah yes Tyrande

[hidden moth]

both

[vocal surge]

The brainlet who tried to choke out an undead elf

[hidden moth]

people hold grudgers and when ur immortal 10k years aint shit

[dark stump]

everyone want to choke sylvanas wont you ?

[jolly sierra]

by 10k years u should feel numb at this step

[jolly sierra]

by one or other way tho

[vocal surge]

[jolly sierra]

night elves are fkn bigots anyways

look at fandral

[dark stump]

they should've done the same thing as they did to garrosh for sylvanas
not repenting on his own action etc...

[jolly sierra]

dude was trying to drug constantly malfurion to keep power and broke off the alliance with dragons for an outburst (ye, your son is a fair reason to mourn, but with 10k years old a dude should have temper management, right?)

[dark stump]

let's remember the malfurion & illidan story about imprisonning him till he die

[jolly sierra]

YOU ARE NOT MY BROTHER

meanwhile maiev after illidan is gone:

"i miss him ngl"

[hidden moth]

malfurion is a cuck

i said what i said

[dark stump]

i agree

[jolly sierra]

malfurion is like an old baine

too passive

neglectfully passive

[dark stump]

even old baine wasn't at this point of passiveness

[jolly sierra]

cairne was a chad

baine lit let his cows die in taurajo and exiled the ones which wanted revenge

and justified the massacre

if cairne would be alive in that moment, he would slap his head

in reprimand

[dark stump]

i forgot what malfurion did but i still remember the feeling of him being more useless

[jolly sierra]

malfurion did nothing against tyrande in the night warrior questline

rather than say stuff like "what have you done" and still support his crazy wife

and when he was about to die in the war of thorns

[dark stump]

kinda ironic and hipocryte when u remember illidan doing and plot

[jolly sierra]

he never acted angry or something

[jolly sierra]

lit

can you understand why night elves now are the most fucked up race in game?

10k years old some of them and acting as petty as a human

[hybrid sapphire]

u would too at that age

[dark stump]

night elves story are kinda trash
i prefer blood elf story , saving the race from an addiction to magic and kael'thas

[jolly sierra]

blood elves literally cope with everything

and were forced to change

ye, i prefer that

[hidden moth]

cope lol

tell that to kt

[jolly sierra]

ye, they coped with their drug addiction

cuz kt

and were forced to join horde

how do you imagine the snootiest race in azeroth joining mongrels as the horde

[dark stump]

NB : kael'thas failure in TBC made it worse for his own race

[jolly sierra]

lit their ego had to be swallowed to survive

[jolly sierra]

kael TBC betrayal was also dumb tho

[dark stump]

to the legion or to the alliance+horde?

[jolly sierra]

legion

lit you were the savior of your race and you turned your back to all of them

for greedy reasons

[dark stump]

the worst is that raid exist because it was a suspicion he accepted the contract with the legion

[grave basin]

any1 on NA played shuffles yet

[jolly sierra]

TK?

[grave basin]

are we just one shotting each other with all the new aura buffs

also is there MMR when season is down?

[dark stump]

mm sent got a huge buff so it can now one shot
Outlaw i suppose
Mage frost and arcane got somes change now can one shot etc...

[hybrid sapphire]

they were already one shotting me IJBOL

[jolly sierra]

@hidden moth ping me in 2 more weeks and tell me ur thoughts about the story

[grave basin]

yea but we're using last season's gear

with full s3 conquest

damage should slow down

[dark stump]

yes don't know where i saw this , but since it was a suspicion that KT concluded with legion we were sent (heroes etc..) to kill him

[hybrid sapphire]

CTF debuff got changed didnt it

[hidden moth]

will do

[grave basin]

hows the wraps in pvp

doing good overall?

is it even nerfed in pvp

[dark stump]

POV me who have to wait 7 hours for the maintenance in EU serv...

[jolly sierra]

there is a very big wreckage in lore now shadowlands is involved

[hybrid sapphire]

it says 1 million outside of pvp. im in wsg rn

[jolly sierra]

so you can't tell the real reason rn

as is all prone to retcon

[grave basin]

i mean that's still pretty goof

good

you can put pure mastery on it right

and it's higher ilvl than conquest at r4 wraps

[hybrid sapphire]

just got out. heres it is while im in dorn. the percentages are diff too

[grave basin]

show details

[hybrid sapphire]

wdym

[grave basin]

how much damage does it actually do as an overall of your damage

details addon

[hybrid sapphire]

oh i dont have details on rn

[grave basin]

[dark stump]

https://tenor.com/view/exorcism-father-mulvehill-evil-z-is-for-zombies-get-out-evil-spirit-gif-468896802094846995

[hybrid sapphire]

ok so once i get 12k honor i just wait until tues is that correct?

[jolly sierra]

ngl. if they do something bizarre with current lore in side stories like azshara kidnapping you for a tea party would be better than current stuff like the arathi questline

[grave basin]

dayum people really do be gaming

i saw this on DH discord

WHY AM I STUCK AT WORK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[dark stump]

i was like wtf till i saw "DH"

[dark stump]

i was wondering something
is the shadowlands exclusive to azeroth or is it linked to all world ?

[jolly sierra]

all worlds

vashj died in outland and went to SL

kael too

[grave basin]

@hidden moth any good DH pvp streamers other than mvq

tren doesnt even play anymore

[dark stump]

ooh forgot that draenor is another world

[hybrid sapphire]

alright yall literally how tf do you play this

[jolly sierra]

just beat off the other team

[potent pivot]

you don't

[hidden moth]

tren

ik ace is good but mostly does ball games / bgb

[grave basin]

tren is permanent haitus

his last live was 4 months ago

[hybrid sapphire]

bless elune for the null shroud nerf omfhg

[grave basin]

it;'s just more spread out

they get a charge whenever they verdant embrace

so it's more of a skill shot now

[hidden moth]

yooo

t8 delves are

so fucking easy wtaf

[grave basin]

i was doing t11s first week in s2

delves are joke

[hidden moth]

ya

but they suck ass

[grave basin]

i want to believe

going to do m+ for this first tim

not gonna be a mole person anymore

😠

[hidden moth]

not a mole?

[grave basin]

mole person = delve enjoyer

[sterile prairie]

Good luck az its a tough but fun journey

[grave basin]

dh / sv or ww

dh seems the best all around

[sterile prairie]

Yeah probably tbh

Ww fun tho

[grave basin]

i played ww as a main last season so i feel ya

[hidden moth]

vc

[grave basin]

it's looking like a shadow pan season and NGL sp is super boring to me

[hidden moth]

breh

almost odne with another 8

and we getting ddos'd

[hidden moth]

why no rogue in pve?

[hybrid sapphire]

im arena skirm queues are bugging tf out. queue pops then i try to enter and nothing happens

[waxen meteor]

is entre game bugged?

[gleaming sentinel]

There’s some silly things happening, I finished the cloak quest and logged out. Hopefully the iron it all out

[waxen meteor]

I can't basically log in

[grave basin]

i really only have time to fully gear one toon

max two

[dark kernel]

i managed 2 rogues last season, might split and do one sin/sub this time

if I want to take 3s serious but dunno

[hybrid sapphire]

yeah everything has like a 5 min lag @waxen meteor

[grave basin]

or should i do something unprecedented

maybe i join hogwarts

main mage alt SP

yer a wizard az

[hidden moth]

wtaf is going on with arcane

79% to 0 in one second

aghis is either cracked or arcane is broken

end of season na for shuffle

only 15 outlaw rogues over 2400

but 4 of them were 2800+

[grave basin]

I mean how many of those are the same people

[hidden moth]

1 2 and 3 are all diff people

3x val is 1 person and bodymassage xygg same person

so

[grave basin]

I'm gonna troll tonight on my mage as arcane

If any1 wants to do 2s Magus rogus for memes

[hidden moth]

15 rogues with 12 unique players

[grave basin]

Sounds good, how many arms warriors

[potent pivot]

I heard assa is cranking from @jaunty osprey

[grave basin]

Assa is probably the only spec can that contain arcane ATM lol

Every other spec either gets magic bopped or dies insta

[potent pivot]

I’m not really able to play n start testing shit til this weekend

We prolly won’t get any tuning until next week or even the week after I’m assuming though

[grave basin]

I mean it's just arcane mages running around with 15second touch of death

[grave basin]

Is there even heroic week? I don't think blizzard wants to screw over RWF with tuning

[potent pivot]

i genuinely have no idea if there's a heroic week this season

[grave basin]

From what I've heard there isn't going to be

[potent pivot]

well

i'm pretty sure they'll still tune any outliers

but yeh

once the race actually starts it becomes much more unlikely

they can always release tuning notes on the day of next reset

rwf players just have to adjust their plans if so, pretty normal that this happens

like last season i think they had to start gearing monks last minute

and even without a heroic week, they'll all still be farming heroic for days before stepping foot in mythic

[grave basin]

They can also just put PvP modifiers

For egregious stuff

[stoic lava]

They were the people who had mmr from season 1

I talked to nate and he said he thought he'd be 2400-2500 if he didnit hvae last seasno mmr

[hidden moth]

bro

i legit just did

a t8 delve start to finish sub 8 min

lmfaooo

[orchid plinth]

Arcane broken??? Pls no put into dumpster I wanna be able to play it all season pls blizzard

[hidden moth]

https://tenor.com/view/the-frog-mage-shocked-surprised-what-magic-gif-2219938069717247821

[grave basin]

im just glad to never have to play "icy veins: the spec"

do nothing outside of veins is such garbanzo design

was watching aeghis play sunfury fire and it was pumping

[grave basin]

apparantly cloak goes up to 730 and conquest only to 723

so even if they nerf the proc to the ground, we would still use it for the ilvl no?

we dont really need more verse at this point

[potent pivot]

Possibly

[glass hazel]

mastery is good enough alone for assa\sub

same reason why some (me as well) run engi braces or/and head

[vocal surge]

I'm using the cloak to increase my ilvl

Since armor increases slightly against lower ilvl players

Even if its by a small amount

[vocal surge]

Imma split and do NA/EU ladder climbs

[severe hazel]

is the new pvp zone active in karesh for spark quest? (if so, where is it even)

[fresh ermine]

anyone have the cloak on multiple toons is it easier 2nd time

[azure rapids]

If i skipped S2 to entirely, is there any new honor gear i should get this week ,or when will honor gear be available,as i am now in S1 conquest 😛

[grave basin]

next week

you can farm honor now to instantly buy s3 honor gear next week

[grave basin]

how is outlaw mr po