pvp

[hidden moth]

Bc it wasn’t xferable

[stoic spruce]

dealing with alts

[hidden moth]

Was annoying in wotlk esp classic

Bc u needed to do heroic raids for pvp gear

[stoic spruce]

another first place

[hidden moth]

Dk bis being a shadowmourne, 4 set PvP gear and the rest from neck rings trinkets, off pieces like boots cloaks etc being drops from heroic raids

Ontop of all the gems and enchants that change from pvp to pve, but the items were unique so u were shelling hella gold

To respec/ regem/ reenchant going from raids to PvP

[stoic spruce]

yeah I didnt mind

[hidden moth]

I was loaded but still a waste of gold

[gleaming sentinel]

participation is always so good when pve and pvp overlap but everyone gets so upset

[stoic spruce]

no one talks about how the best seasons have that

[gleaming sentinel]

wow players hate having to play the game

[jolly sierra]

the what

[stoic spruce]

trial of style

[jolly sierra]

did u won?

[gleaming sentinel]

what do u guys think the most well rounded rogue spec is? from m+/raid to 2s/3s shuffle blitz etc

[stoic spruce]

No

Didn't even place

[stoic spruce]

Assa for sure

Good in all content at all levels

[dark kernel]

Its unironically the worst pvp expansion in the history of the game though lmao

I do get that legion was amazing for lore and the class feel

I literally hate every legion version of every class

Especially going from warlords to Legion, the rogue changes were absolutely horrific

[dark kernel]

It's assassination and it's not even close, it's the best speck in all three

PvE raid m( and pvp

[gleaming sentinel]

i enjoy assa

[stoic spruce]

@jolly sierra I think im gonna add this to my outfit rotation lol

[stoic spruce]

Pvp mods exist because of legion fdk btw

I liked all of legion though

M+, raid, and pvp

played outlaw and unholy then

loved what they did to them

disclaimer though

SL is my favorite expansion

[jolly sierra]

that head cone

[jolly sierra]

F

[stoic spruce]

I love it

[jolly sierra]

my first cosmetic item ever (was just a borrowed non cloth item) was a wizard hat

and the fucker asked me to get it back

[stoic spruce]

the light and shadow prompt suuuuuuuucks

I dont have any pieces for that lol

[stoic spruce]

what a jerk

[stoic spruce]

this placed 3rd

[jolly sierra]

how tf u fit that

i am sure royal knows the answer

[stoic spruce]

I shouldve farmed the pve rogue mogs

you can do it

I however cannot

because I dont have void pieces

Swapping to my DK

thats my secret weapon

[spring bough]

@vocal surge have we ever tried flickerstrike since feint got updated a while back? I remember we were trrying it at the start of S1

[hidden moth]

I hate having to rng get lucky on drops and get the items for myself I. A raid setting bc I need it for PvP

ESP bc the pve’rs don’t see PvP and a real need for loot

“That’s a .1 dps increase for this other class so they deserve this item more”

[hidden moth]

Dh is bis

I get the pvp wasn’t the best but at least the pve was good

[dark kernel]

I mean yeah but you in the pvp chat buddeh

[hidden moth]

Legion PvP still better than slams

Slands*

[dark kernel]

Most of us play both but not all. I only do 999% pvp

[stoic spruce]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[dark kernel]

Every once in a while I do lfr or grab ksm

[stoic spruce]

yeah I think Legion pvp was better than SL pvp

[hidden moth]

Yeah but I usually pve pvp on different characters mostly bc gearing

And bag space

[stoic spruce]

man idk

SL pvp was pretty great

[hidden moth]

Sure we had preset stats but preset stats is wayyyy better than your items stats being tied to your rating

[dark kernel]

SL was a special time because everyone was off work and degen

My guild loves SL too

[stoic spruce]

lowkey I liked it

and didnt mind at worst

[hidden moth]

Sl ruined so much lore and has so many plot holes ontop of 10 months in the first raid tier

[stoic spruce]

hm

well Legion had honor talents

this is a toughy ngl

[hidden moth]

Honor talents were grindable

[stoic spruce]

yeah

I liked the honor talents

[hidden moth]

Vs slands u needed to get a speciifc raid drop on a high difficulty for your legendary carve to be any good

[stoic spruce]

it was 100% drop chance after like week 5 of SL

[hidden moth]

Yes but

[dark kernel]

Here's my one thing. I do actually like when we have flavor trinkets for pvp

Like resonator, motorbike

I don't like flat stat shit

Its boring

[hidden moth]

A pvper who was clearing mythic raid had a advantage over a pvper who were only able to do heroic

[stoic spruce]

Malediction made me want to drive down the highway at night with my headlights off

[stoic spruce]

how

[hidden moth]

I level of the rune

[stoic spruce]

what rune?

For SL?

[hidden moth]

The rune u had to get in slands to then craft your legendary armor

Bc the armor had an ilvl and the rune did as well

Iirc

[stoic spruce]

all you needed was soul ash, cinders, and missives

something like that

I get the ash and cinder confused

couldve been both

regardless

good times

wish SL launched with the QoL it had in S4

maybe it was better than Legion pvp

@chrome schooner I saw you typing a min ago. Which was better, legion or SL pvp?

[runic laurel]

That doesn’t sound right at all

[chrome schooner]

It was actually a wrong alt tab :p
I didn't play Legion PvP on Retail, only on private server, but from that experience + what I saw of videos at the time I think it was better

SL has too many stupid oneshots, at start with Rets, Fire Mages, WW etc, and then comps like Outlaw Fire X or Outlaw Fury X that could never die, it was a bit boring

[stoic spruce]

I looked in my blacksmithing thing and it was a crafters thing. not the actually leggo crafting

Yeah the one shots were wild

the classes were more well designed in general

theyre about the same. legion and sl

I think I just like the game lol

[hidden moth]

then y an ilvl diff

lfr vs mythi

[stoic spruce]

oh conduits

thats different

yeah those sucked

[spring bough]

CTO conduit >>>>

3x when stealthed so 15 seconds and max was 36% chance lol

oh and flag could proc it too. damn i miss flag on outlaw

venth with lashing scars too ooooiiii take me back

[gleaming sentinel]

Well not much left to do, guess I can try and get my assa mmr up in blitz… for next season

Which is so
Weird that you can do that

[vocal surge]

I haven't yet

its reliant of having someone smack ya on the PTR

[indigo hill]

Season 2 is ending Monday the 5tg.

[hard compass]

does the deathstalkers mark debuff have a diff spell ID to the talent

cant get my WA to work

nvm, i put on big boy pants and found it

if anyone ever needs it Deathstalker's Mark debuff aura spell id is 457129

[hidden moth]

4TH

ends 10 pm pdt on the 4th

[hidden moth]

i just use luxthos w/a pack lol

[hard compass]

I dunno i dont like those class packs

i just wanted something clearer on the nameplate hah

[hidden moth]

kui

its such a blessing

[gleaming sentinel]

[dark kernel]

Yeah

[dark kernel]

I legitimately want no demo warlock to ever have a good life

or hapiness

that's all

[brave plume]

Does Die by the sword work when you attack the warrior from the back

same way you can circumvent Evasion?

[hidden moth]

yes

bc u cant parry behind u

[hidden moth]

just hard counter them

by playing assa

[spring bough]

so do i swap kul tiran to night elf for pvp main this season

[hidden moth]

I’m dead bro

Wounded quarry is basically singular focus lmfao

[stiff cedar]

4mil in 0.1

Pvp is so fast paced these days

[spring bough]

gonna have to get my rogue mog ready going back to sword / dag for S3

[spring bough]

i wish they would speed up getting four set for S3

we gotta wait till what week 5?

[grave basin]

Yea

1st week 2set then every other week

[vocal surge]

Atleast we get the coin flipper on W1

Coin brrrrrrt

We get our biggest power spike earlier than usual

Usually 4p is the big power spike for Outlaw

But for PvP, its 2p > 4p

w. Fatebound I should specify

[spring bough]

Yeah that’ll be good. KIR fatebound the second 2 set is equipped

Think I’m crafting 2 haste/verse rings w the gem embelish and then some bracers or a cape week 1

[vocal surge]

Aye

4p isn't as big of an upgrade since it'll get the PvP modifier applied to it

The 2p's 1st part isn't what will drive Fatebound to be so op

its the 2nd half with Ghostly Strike proccing Edge

[dark kernel]

If you run lfr the first couple weeks you can speed it up with the conq irem

[spring bough]

Gonna prob clear heroic week 1 or 2 tbh lol

[dark kernel]

Oh yeah, you PvE so this isn't even an issue with you

[untold hare]

Hello rouges , i just wanna get elite sets before season end any suggestions on what spec i should play ? Sub or assa ?

[spring bough]

trial of style rn and free mogs is the best

[spring bough]

prob either

[gleaming sentinel]

Ok 2300 on both my outlaws gonna come down to the wire

[grave basin]

are you on NA

@gleaming sentinel

[gleaming sentinel]

Yea

[spring bough]

right where im sitting on both lol

[grave basin]

im queueing tryin to get 2.4 on my alt

we might see each other

kekw

[gleaming sentinel]

Bring it!

I’m in a rare flow state, feeling very sharp… I need you to humble me

[spring bough]

so i got this darkfuse rep WA counter.... have to do 261 trash piles till exalted lol

[grave basin]

welcome to trashmaxxing

you have a few days till the 2x rep is over

[grave basin]

im sleepy af

[gleaming sentinel]

Energy drink time

[untold hare]

sorry wdym ?

[spring bough]

can do it on either

[grave basin]

@gleaming sentinel im getting an INSANE lobby

insane

[gleaming sentinel]

What are you playing

[grave basin]

surv

i need to get 2x eltie before season ends

[gleaming sentinel]

oh barf dont get my lobby thanks

[dark kernel]

I was playing the best games of my life last night and I was getting counter lobbies every match

I lost a hundred rating and there was just nothing I could do

[grave basin]

fuck me in the ass

WHY

[spring bough]

season 3 build going brrrtttttt

[grave basin]

double rog kek

[dark stump]

pvp ? how?

[grave basin]

he;s just playing fatebound

[dark stump]

no how do u tag pvp in ptr ?

[grave basin]

he;s clearly playing shuffle

on live

he's just speced fatebound cause next season they buffed fatebound coins tail by a big amount

[spring bough]

playing the build ima do for season 3

on live

[dark stump]

oooh

[dark stump]

gambling season?

[grave basin]

depends on how much of a meme new killing spree is

[dark stump]

https://tenor.com/view/reaper-gif-12366483

new killing spree be like

[spring bough]

KS gonna be great for both

13milly finishers plus inc

when its not CC

[grave basin]

btw supa is playing

outlaw in shuff again

[spring bough]

is he on live or ptr rn

[grave basin]

live rn

[vocal surge]

Wut he sayin?

[grave basin]

@gleaming sentinel i think

i got it

4 wins in this lob

is it finally over

[spring bough]

bro complaining about the season and saying mage op pretty much lol

[grave basin]

WE

DID

IT

[spring bough]

front running hunt smh

[grave basin]

hhhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooollllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

@hidden moth

2x elite on 2x different specs

im so done with this season

[gleaming sentinel]

nice work bro

[vocal surge]

Gratz

[grave basin]

thanks thanks

[dark kernel]

Supatease had God tier lobbies all yesterday and got to 2250 on outlaw, then started getting the casters and tanked to 2070

[grave basin]

he wont finish this challenge

idk why he even bothers when he knows deep down he wont

[manic steppe]

is it by design that i dont win untill i have full conquest gear?

[dark stump]

2 set bonus u can win if u're good and u're teams is lock in

and u don't get into ur counter lobby

for example full mage/affli lock

[dark stump]

this example is only on my mm and mage which i got 1k8 without conq gear but only 2set bonus

rogue idk

[manic steppe]

im doing ele sham trying to get 1800 for elite set but seems like i cant do anything

[grave basin]

you can get to 1800 with full green gear

just depends on how good you are

[dark stump]

watch vids of how to rotation or just press on every button

[grave basin]

ofcourse just because you can doesnt mean you should

[dark stump]

ele is one of the highest burst

[spring bough]

bro he just got DELETED lol

[dark kernel]

Its kind of funny he went from Outlaw is kind of fine it's not bad to, holy shit this spec makes no sense

Yesterday he rerolled a 4 buff because he didn't know he had it cl

[dark stump]

wound poison or deadly poison for ss ?

[spring bough]

wound

[grave basin]

always wound

what do i do now

[jolly sierra]

wound

never think in another lethal one

[spring bough]

i get so jealous of DH when i play mine and can delete people so easily lol

hope outlaw kinda feels like this with tier in a few weeks

[dark stump]

i'm curios how do u setup ur spells on the slot bar?

[lone goblet]

I can't take solo shuffle I hate this shit so much. Start a match 3-1, the healer who is losing gets mad and throws last 2 games... of course the games Im matched with him.

literally stands there emoting /congrats at me whole time wtf

[grave basin]

actually

any1 knows why my personal resource display is all the way dow nthere

how do i move it? i dont see the option in edit mode

ok i had to run this piss

/run SetCVar ("nameplateSelfTopInset", .51)
/run SetCVar ("nameplateSelfBottomInset", .43)

incase this happens to anyone in the future

it's back

[dark stump]

had a pala who was 3 in a row against me (i was a dk) i literally destroyed him then the 4th round where he was with me he throwed

[dark kernel]

When you fight shit like Demo/ret/rsham as ele/outlaw/Hpal who do you like to go @spring bough

Demo feels troll, and ret isn't bad but they live forever and want to be hit

[spring bough]

usually lock lol

[grave basin]

why is demo troll

you can pump the fuck out of him

[gleaming sentinel]

which one of yall is wowpopy, orb sub rogue

[spring bough]

ques are taking FOREVER today

[indigo hill]

It's still early.

[lone goblet]

sigh and now Im going to 0-6 after hitting 2089 theres goes me duelist this season

thanks dude who afked me 2 losses

hope ur happy

[gleaming sentinel]

2340...

[dark kernel]

They don't die, they have tons of peel, especially with paladins and sham on their team as utility.

[gleaming sentinel]

break time, then im gonna 6-0 y lobby and be done

[indigo hill]

What is pacified and why does it prevent me from using my pvp trinket?

[spring bough]

just copped this gallagio garbage mount

[gleaming sentinel]

dh prot warr ret lobby at 2300, sick sick

[spring bough]

prot war be going BRRRTTTTTTTT

[gleaming sentinel]

not the best outlaw lobby, i guess i shoulda jsut w keyed the healer more

2-4 :<

me and the prot just couldnt win

[spring bough]

im praying the bug is there when we can upgrade crafted to conquest level and it keeps the gems lol

[dark kernel]

Every time I touch 2300 my lobbies turn to wonk

[manic steppe]

can you use spark of fortunes for anything in pvp?

[gleaming sentinel]

It’s all about getting a win with the outlier I find, so many 0-6 healer games or 0-6 dps games

[hidden moth]

well since u asked nicely

[hidden moth]

POG

[spring bough]

i gotta make sure i have enough honor for next week

[hard compass]

I get within a game of 2300 and then decide to play after midnight and lose all my gains 😂

[balmy shuttle]

Blitz I have to play after midnight when all the sweats queue. Otherwise I get games 200-300 below my MMR.

[hard compass]

Blitz before 10pm is for people using the onscreen keyboard

[dense thorn]

can Cell be used for enemy nameplates in pvp arena?

[gleaming sentinel]

I seem to be holding steady 2320-2350, just a matter of time

[spring bough]

i just hit a 6-0 back into the 2300s

[gleaming sentinel]

Boom!

[dark kernel]

I doubt I'll have the skill or luck. But tonight's my last attempt at pushing

I'm disappointed enough in myself so it is what it is

[gleaming sentinel]

Bro lock in, you got it

[spring bough]

got nothing to lose just slam games

[manic steppe]

holy we made it to 1800 with shit gear

[dark stump]

told ya even tough it was crazy thing

[safe turret]

so how long til outlaw gets a pvp talent to make the new killing spree not awful in 99% of situations

[manic steppe]

yup i didnt get to the 2set but you telling me that was the only thing you needed made me believe in it

[fresh ermine]

@spring bough what's honor do next week

[dark kernel]

Stay right where it is

[fresh ermine]

is there new honor gear next season?

[potent pivot]

yes, always

[fresh ermine]

I shouldn't of spent a ton on sockets recently lol

for my alt dh

[dark kernel]

i threw away anyt shot of 2.4k

unfortunately had massive migraine today and tired as a dog

i just dont have the energy and focus

[gleaming sentinel]

Time to get some sleep and wake up at 4am for
Demon hour Qs

[dark kernel]

cant cause kid

only limited hours

still feels dogshit

I should easily have hit this

can only blame myself

[grave basin]

supa is STILL GOING

[dark kernel]

doesnt matter

he wont get close on outlaw, dude's worse than me and Im not even close.

[grave basin]

is he still 2.1

yup

[grave basin]

Reminder to everyone to recraft your socketed stuff ASAP next season

There's a chance it might bug and carry over like the start of this season

[hybrid sapphire]

can i tell yall something that helped me out a lot in arena? zooming out lmfao

[vocal surge]

Time to roll Hunter for PvP 👏

[hidden moth]

gz

season start bouta be cake

@grave basin

[grave basin]

Sheesh

I can't decide bro sv looks fun

He's ilvl 674 too not too shabby

[grave basin]

Fun fact, we used to be able to zoom out even more but blizzard limited it to what it is now

[stoic spruce]

Bow of zest 💅

[vocal surge]

Aye

[hidden moth]

sv is fun

[orchid plinth]

I've been vibing with Arcane, been really fun. Feel like I'm gonna main it next season and leave rogue for some PvP only. Haven't played a caster since like... og Cata

[hidden moth]

arcane op af

[orchid plinth]

people without airhorn WA flop

[hidden moth]

missles go

brrrrrt

[grave basin]

Touch of the magi loaded with 1billion dam

feign death 90% shield

Heh try again next time

[orchid plinth]

I just wanted the elite set for my new mage, got to 1785 first day we - getting it today

[dark stump]

till u see fire mage buff
nukes brrr

[dark stump]

good luck

[pliant mauve]

I think the trolls and boosters have a paid holiday today or something if anyone is trying to push in SS. Been sitting at 2300 in cement boots for a month and finally pushed 2470 and even got my second rogue to 2.4 from 2.1 with like a 95% win rate. Felt suspiciously easy after encountering so many boosters.

Reported 4 people in shuffle the last three days for clearly win trading and got 3 messages from blizzard that action was taken so that’s nice.

[hidden moth]

lots of people are coming in for end of season so while there are boosts and bots and trolls

we are also seeing end of season mmr inflation

so thats why it feels easier

anyone worth their salt is at 2800+ rn

[dark stump]

hello darkness my old friend

i hate this mmr system

[manic steppe]

ty

[barren lily]

Hey anyone here around to talk pvp macros? Brand new to rogue want to see if theres any macros I can create to reduce the amount of buttons on my action bar

[hidden moth]

theres one or 2 on sub but generally not recomended

[harsh kiln]

if anything macros make you fill your bar with more buttons

[grave basin]

you """"""""can"""""""""" macro sec tec and tea together

and dance + symbols

not optimal though, if you really wanna lesson your keybinds then you """""""""""can""""""""""""

[grave basin]

i mean this is a reall good rogue lob

other than hpal, you get thug 4x

[hard compass]

love it when a plan comes together

[surreal kestrel]

Has the recent patch on july 30th caused any changes in the tier list for rogue specs in pvp?

I'm sub but am hearing that assa is now much better

[orchid plinth]

they are very different play what you like and it will be better

[surreal kestrel]

So there's not really an outstanding spec of the two? as I do still love bursting the sh*t out of people with sub

[orchid plinth]

so play sub, assa is very much the opposite

[surreal kestrel]

if it's still viable

[orchid plinth]

I would perhaps avoid Outlaw if you are 3k in shuffle, thats it

[harsh kiln]

are bloody tokens also gonna carry over to s3? or are they resetting aswell?

[gusty hedge]

resetting , they should have bloody token chest to xfer over like they do with conq imo

[harsh kiln]

that's what i thought aswell, heard someone say they carry over, but it felt strange since they've never done that so far.

yeah, tbh they need to make something else to spend conq on. trade it for rep or some shit, so you dont sit at 39k+ at the end of the season

[gusty hedge]

yeah that would be new nd nice
I know honor will carry over andi think valor stor or w.e the pve currency is now.

a wpvp enchant for like 50k token would be nice

[dark stump]

i was the dh full green gear against all BIS gear
10m hp

[verbal field]

and we have the leavers again

[dark stump]

love when the healer tilt someone till he is afk

[spring bough]

what is there even to do until tuesday lol

is the new pvp zone live on tuesday to hitup after we honor gear out?

[wanton breach]

mage alter times at 3%, immediately triggers it after the lay on hands

boop dead

[grave basin]

nothing im completely tapped on what to do

farming honor on alts maybe

[wanton breach]

farm vicious bloodgems?

[grave basin]

probably loads of people trying for last min elite sets

and getting frustrated and logging off

[wanton breach]

[verbal field]

most likely yea

[orchid plinth]

dad gamers rise up

prob gonna continue while on a roll later

this one was fun

[grave basin]

lol

ive been hit by 5m into 3.5m

mm is not a real spec

[hollow carbon]

So they will be still of value next Season most likely?

[orchid plinth]

Can you recraft the current PvP gear with S3 heralidies therefore skipping the needed PvE material next season? It was a bug that kept sockets? I didn't play at the beginning of S2.

[spring bough]

should be able to. the sockets was a bug

[gleaming sentinel]

2385 and i had an arcane not block, a dk not ibf and ams twice on my team

[orchid plinth]

Facing MM?

[gleaming sentinel]

arms outlaw (me) and uh, arcane

arms and mage went 4-2 and hit the exact same rating

[potent pivot]

wdym by pve material

[potent pivot]

should still be used ye

[orchid plinth]

Like the leather, bars and stuff. Does recrafting take less of those?

[potent pivot]

Nah it’s the same iirc

Can just buy those off the AH tho

It might be a little less idr I think u can choose to keep your missive/embellishments

Haven’t recrafted since s2 began

[dark kernel]

I trolled too. I am out of range for the season, unfortunate.

[gleaming sentinel]

my main is still 2350, alt 2330, hestitant to q

[grave basin]

bois it's race to world last 2400

@pk has the lead

@gleaming sentinel

[dark kernel]

I dropped out.

[stoic spruce]

Imagine I decide to throw my hat in and push

[grave basin]

why not

[stoic spruce]

That'd be so funny

Because it's shuffle

And

It's outlaw shuffle

[grave basin]

or dk shuffle

[stoic spruce]

2 very good reasons right there

Eh

I could dk

[grave basin]

lets go

[grave basin]

unforch, i understand though

kid > rating

[gleaming sentinel]

lmao OK BRO

[grave basin]

you got this

[stoic spruce]

Dang, I feel left out. Maybe I will.

[gleaming sentinel]

first of all, i have elite on other classes and specs

[grave basin]

bro on outlaw

you will be legendary

imagine top 10 outlaw NA

[grave basin]

is your main uh or frost?

[gleaming sentinel]

top 10 blitzer aka the real bracket everyone loves and respects

[grave basin]

[stoic spruce]

Uh

[grave basin]

you chose two shit specs aye

[stoic spruce]

Yeah

[spring bough]

I hate wow sometimes. All I did yesterday was play 3-4 blitz. Did a ton of call outs. Didn’t speak to anyone directly. And somehow I’m suspended for spam…. Why do I even try to communicate to win games anymore

[dark stump]

what's the name of this addon?

[gleaming sentinel]

For how long lol

[grave basin]

first time should be 7 days

atleast next week is downtime

[spring bough]

It’s not the first. It’s 20 days…. I appealed it. One person complained to me yesterday when I was doing blitz call outs. I think they mass reported me. I hope that’s what it was and I can get a successful appeal

[grave basin]

oof

[spring bough]

Might have to sub the second account if they don’t get it back and just play that for the start of the season 🪦

[grave basin]

well youll miss 2 weeks of the start of the season

that's not the worst thing ever

better than 6months

[spring bough]

Only thing that sticks out from yesterday is I was at FR trying to steal it and hit chat with “ONE PEEL” a couple times and someone told me to stop spamming. If that’s what did it ima crack up

[jolly sierra]

why you should go so hard in the first two weeks?

just play as usual

i always do a field trip in the first two weeks and push serious in the third one lol

[spring bough]

Not going to now lmao

[dark kernel]

This was my first season ever trying to push 2.4k sadly. Its not even the kid it's just playing sleep deprived every night and not having the xp

I still get tilted too unfortunately

[gleaming sentinel]

I mean you got in the top 50, last season I got 2400 and was rank 60 something

The ranking system needs a rework, it feels so weird to be higher on the board but lower rated

[spring bough]

I hope outlaw comes back strong S3

[gleaming sentinel]

Killing spree bomb windows might be op or trash

[hearty hatch]

hi witch addons or settings would let me see 2 indicators fdor crownd control im seeng 2 nameplates to

o

[potent pivot]

there's quite a few

[dark kernel]

Yeah but still feels bad tbh

[potent pivot]

if you haven't configured them properly multiple addons will show the same thing

bigdebuffs, betterblizzplates, plater, kui, etc

[hearty hatch]

also its like this and sap indicator is here

[potent pivot]

looks like plater and bigdebuffs

[potent pivot]

thats to let you know when they are out of combat

probably from betterblizzframes

[hearty hatch]

can i amke sap indicator on center of enemy

[potent pivot]

like on their player model? i don't think so

[hearty hatch]

yes

do u know

[potent pivot]

might be a way to put it on their nameplate but i don't think betterblizzplates/frames has that setting

[hearty hatch]

pshero

cc offencife and defencive skills are taking place when activeted on top of the enemy player

[potent pivot]

you're def using some conflicting addons though you need to configure them so that you don't see things twice or get rid of one of them

[hearty hatch]

ok let me give u screen shot of them and could u hhelp me remove some?

[potent pivot]

sure

there's also an addon list in the pins of this channel

none of them should conflict as far as i'm aware

[hearty hatch]

then iill just removve them all and tset pinned ones only

[spring bough]

Wasn’t outlaw a 10% overall inc? I’m looking at the patch notes and it says 13%

[hearty hatch]

ok i tweaked little now where can i make it like more simple info for what debbuffs enemy has cc and etc

as u can see it shows evrythuing littwerly lol

[gleaming sentinel]

they recently added a 3.5 increase as well

[dark kernel]

This

[potent pivot]

Yeah customize the whitelist/blacklist in BetterBlizzPlates settings

There’s some preloaded profiles at the bottom of the settings window, but you’ll likely still need to tweak the whitelist to for your exact preferences

[stoic spruce]

Trickz has skinny hands

[manic steppe]

did you get an answer for this one?

[gleaming sentinel]

I think that’ll do it for me. Rank 10 blitz rank 17 shuffle. Hopefully outlaw feels better next patch but I’m burnt out

[harsh kiln]

Push 2400

[dark kernel]

He did and already has it on other characters

I topped out at I think 19th leader board when that was lower weeks ago

[gleaming sentinel]

I got it on assa and legend on demo… I got shit to do today lol

[dark stump]

no

[harsh kiln]

Nice man! Im still holding on to 18✊️

[hidden moth]

Yes

[hidden moth]

Like account ban?

Or silence

[manic steppe]

BetterCharacterPanel

[spring bough]

Suspended till 8/24 🪦

[hidden moth]

Oof

[gleaming sentinel]

Supa almost there

He’s improved a bit

[dark kernel]

I'm sure he'll get it, but it won't make me not mad.

[safe pelican]

The resub looms near runnin sub for blitz this season maybe alt pirate for SS

#BringBackShadowyDuel

[jolly sierra]

bruh

dude, its better to just stay quiet at this step

people is so fucking oversensitive rn

[spring bough]

i didnt even talk shit to anyone all i did was blitz call outs lmao

[jolly sierra]

ye for that

its ovexaggerated

[spring bough]

cant even strategize on a strategy game lmao

[jolly sierra]

at this step, just play by yourself

[spring bough]

isnt that what solo is lol

[hidden moth]

@dark kernel

[dark kernel]

That feels like me rn

I'm sad the seasons over but maybe a small mental reset will gelp

I watched some of supateases last lobbies. He very barely tries to actually do big damage, he just looks to stun off CD and makes sure when his team is dying he peels a ton

It feels like he just gets CCd less, and I'm not sure if he's just good at pre emptive using stuff like evasion or cloak, but he like YOLO defensive a ton

[jolly sierra]

without communication and just in gut feeling i say

[exotic dove]

Now you know why I dont say anything in chat at all anymore

[exotic dove]

Well guys I made some time and the Rogue I didnt expect to get 2.4 as Sub got 2.4 as Sub Noved-Sargeras.

This Rogue I tried a bunch of stuff with and geared from greens in shuffle cause I CBA to chase a plane for four hours too

three months a go lol

2.4 as Assa and Sub completed in one Season

Feeling good

[hidden moth]

poggies

[gleaming sentinel]

cant let supa win, 1 more lobby lads... my haircut can wait

[exotic dove]

Had this guy whisper me on my 2400 Sub game

[vocal surge]

[exotic dove]

Alright I had to get 2400 on my Main Rogue too Devstrike-Sargeras. Now I can say my job is officially done. I might be in trouble with family for taking time out for the final sub push but it was worth.

Two Rogues 2400+ As Sub and 4 Rogues 2400+ as Assa

My main scored this

62% win rate at 2400 as Sub Im super happy with myself

on the main rogue

[jolly sierra]

vae victis

[vocal surge]

Im not sure if I can handle anymore S2 games xD

The low dps output of Outlaw sucks bullocks

S3 Outlaw PUMPS like a freight train

[gleaming sentinel]

I can say I am a DR tracking savant now tho, rofl

[vocal surge]

XD

[exotic dove]

I actually now that its done feel great this season. LOL lot of frustrations but the reward feels good

That being said im done this season unless casual stuff lol

[vocal surge]

I do plan on playing on both NA and EU ladders

see which one I get further in

[gleaming sentinel]

nice to hear

[hidden moth]

did u win?

[dark kernel]

I am eagerly awaiting your builds

Making one last crack at the current ladder, but then I'm just a PTR and toying with stuff

[vocal surge]

You still remember that coin damage ey?

Literally gets opened on

100 --> 50

[dark kernel]

Yes

[vocal surge]

w. 19M hp

if it was anyone else

100% --> 33%

[dark kernel]

You are like rogue theory guy in my book for outlaw

[gleaming sentinel]

35min into a 15min avg, dropped Q gonna eat dinner

[hidden moth]

lol

[hard compass]

flamed by a priest for asking him to dispel magic roots because he "can only dispel magic"

[gleaming sentinel]

healer challenge: dispel the rogue. level: impossible

[hard compass]

the hurtful part was him telling me "l2p" because i didnt understand how his class works 😢

[gleaming sentinel]

very sweaty 3-3 :<

[fresh ermine]

do we get new honor gear on tuesday

[dark kernel]

No

There's a dead week

You can play with new talents and changes, but no new gear

[hidden moth]

uh

new gear for pve is out

why wouldnt we get new honor gear

[fresh ermine]

What's new for pve Tuesday?

I still gotta gear on MOP smh lol

[potent pivot]

there's always a week of downtime before rated/m+ is up

i always forget what exactly is available

[dark kernel]

It for sure is not

[gusty hedge]

#pvp message
prolly referring to this

[dark kernel]

I see. So there's content out but it's limited to way low ilvl stuff

[hidden moth]

ya but

m0s are out

so are delves and the new gear shit

u can get crests

idk why we wouldnt get new honor gear

also deepwind dunk is the dumbest fucking brawl ever

[dark kernel]

we probably SHOULD given the changes but knowing blizzard we wont until it gets raised as an issue and added Wednesday

[potent pivot]

Ye I think that’s how it worked back in SL too

[grave basin]

the truth is that they keep fucking changing it

half the seasons honor gear is out week 0 other half it isnt

[potent pivot]

Yeah at this point these days I just wait til the day of release and look

Knowing what’s coming day 1 won’t change much, still just gonna be afk sitting on my honor til I can spend it

[grave basin]

im looking forward to running BGs with guildies

[potent pivot]

I heard a rumor about a survey of letting MoP characters roll over into retail, was that fake news?

[grave basin]

to honor cap

[grave basin]

it's a real survey but EXTREMELY troll

they explicitly said they wouldnt do it when classic first launched

so many people (like me) didnt bother to play

[dark kernel]

They've said that about 10 things they ended up doing anyway

No way to put stake in words

[grave basin]

yea but theyre pretty adamant on "muh prestige"

like how legion remix wont have the OG mage tower rewards

so why would they port over every OG reward from classic

doesnt make sense at all

[potent pivot]

I guess I need to keep my eyes peeled because I might have to play MoP if they come to a decision on that

[grave basin]

if they do decide then they need to announce it WAY ahead of time

[potent pivot]

Yeah

[grave basin]

so people can play and get those CM sets and bloody dancing stee

steel

[potent pivot]

Glorious tyranny buddy

[grave basin]

bloody dancing steel

[potent pivot]

Literally the only thing I’d care about

[grave basin]

was the real name of it

[potent pivot]

?

[grave basin]

that's what it used to be called

back in the day

[grave basin]

glorious tyranny is the new name when they ported it to the illusions tab

same shit

[potent pivot]

I kinda doubt they’ll do it tbh but they should do it

[grave basin]

mfw they had to down res the ilusion

cause people's PCs were being fried

what a dumb excuse though come on

[grave basin]

they should tbh and announce it

but i saw the reddit thread on it

and it was overwhelmingly negative

[potent pivot]

I have a feeling Classic will be done after mop too

[grave basin]

and you know how much value plebbit has in the eyes of blizzard

[potent pivot]

No one wants WoD and it’s not like skipping it would make sense

[grave basin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1mf7ubz/apparently_people_are_getting_surveys_asking_to/

people are saying the same thing

they promised they wouldnt do it

muh prestige

[grave basin]

wod blows and we're getting legion remix soon so yea

legion isnt even "Classic" anymore

it's like the start of modern wow

[dark kernel]

There's no way we get wod

[grave basin]

wod sub rogue was goated though

[dark kernel]

They literally discontinued the expansion halfway through to work on legion

[hidden moth]

what if they skip wod lol

[grave basin]

then it's over

[hidden moth]

just mop into free level boost and wod ilvl gear

[grave basin]

legion isnt classic anymore

[hidden moth]

have legion classic

lol

[grave basin]

legion is just modern wow, the classic andies wont play it

it would have zero appeal

at that point release classic+ or some SOD-esque thing

[hidden moth]

id play it

just bc i want to see what dh felt like when it launcehd

[dark kernel]

Legion felt so fucking weird

Because you did no damage without cooldowns all of a sudden

[grave basin]

i quit halfway through legion and got zero of the mage tower stuff

[dark kernel]

It was the start of the "use damage CDs every CD" gameplay

[grave basin]

i played Mop but was too young to understand all the CM and exclusive transmog stuff

honestly blows

[hidden moth]

played my gmas account back in og

but

[grave basin]

that's why now im like a FOMO whore

[hidden moth]

she lost it lmfao

[grave basin]

cant let history repeat itself

[dark kernel]

There's no point in being sad.

[hidden moth]

email got hacked so lost her account iwthit

[dark kernel]

The old gear honestly kind of looks like shit. Its Only special because people don't have it.

If everyone has it, you wouldn't use it

[grave basin]

yea but i could have had cloudsong glaive

which is the best polearm in the game

[hidden moth]

true

[grave basin]

hunter CM also looks really good imo

[hidden moth]

but thats the same with mounts now

u cant tell me ur riding the s2 glad mount

bc it looks good

[dark kernel]

Even like the old TBC glad mounts look ass

[hidden moth]

nah

[grave basin]

i legit might buy a mythic carry to get the mythic mount this tier

[hidden moth]

netherwing mounts look goated ngl

just need a revision on the pixil count

[dark kernel]

Yeah but there's a grotto drake armor set that looks like uprez TBC glad mount

[hidden moth]

grotto drake looks bad thouhg

it s so big

[dark kernel]

That's the entire point haha

Back in the day glad mounts were HUGE by conparison

The cats drakes are the smallest

[hidden moth]

yeah but its so blocky

[grave basin]

venruki could sell his tbc glad drake

and retire

to some oiler

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMv1hxHmEc0

neat particle effects, atleast it's unique

and not some shade of brown

looks freaking insane on 2h swords

[potent pivot]

thats different from the one that got datamined innit

actually looks half decent

[grave basin]

i think when it first got datamined it was just a recolor of df s1

now it actually has those arcane circles around the weapon

[potent pivot]

wow

that is kinda fucked up

it does look way more pronounced on 2h shit

[glass hazel]

yeah but we use daggers and doesnt look good on them

[grave basin]

this one goes hard

i mean that looks crazy good

[potent pivot]

i hope there's at least 1 or 2 daggers it matches and looks like that on

[jolly sierra]

ofc its good, it have the name of one of the best animated series ever done lol

finally something is worth pushing for

[grave basin]

you push for dank rewards

i push for my fragile ego

we are not the same

[jolly sierra]

yeah, a rogue is hedonist in nature

we just work for the blingy

[hidden moth]

KEKW

[exotic dove]

Let me guess its the Mythic set next season

[exotic dove]

Yeah I got that much too lol

[grave basin]

That's the mythic set yea

Actually that's the PvP elite set

[dark kernel]

I thought our elite set was white but it was reversed

[verbal field]

Same

[hidden moth]

The white set is glad set

[dark moon]

Daaaamn, I don't think I've earned that much over whole expansion

[gleaming sentinel]

[dark kernel]

I realize that. I thought the color schemes were reversed for glad and elite

The white side is honestly clean I thought it was a good version for elite

[verbal field]

White set with black smoke would go hard imo

Not the biggest fan of the red color

[hidden moth]

Ight lads

24 hours away from new patch

How we feelin

[unkempt wren]

can you earn conquest starting on reset to spend on the trinket or is that not doable until the following week when the season launches

[dark kernel]

We don't really know for sure ATM.

[gleaming sentinel]

Very likely won’t be able to do anything but earn honor

[dark moon]

I managed to get elite set on ww havoc ele bm and elite weapons the past week, feeling good

[orchid plinth]

Given that I resubbed weeks ago I am happy that I managed to get Elite set for Rogue, Warrior and my completely new mage. Looking forward to blasting harder on Mage next season! Relaxing now.

[dark stump]

trying to cap honor before new season

but get obliterated by elem

[grave basin]

i play mym age

instantly

2x hunter lob

[grave basin]

supa is

S T I L L G O I N G

[hidden moth]

Conq isn’t avail until season launch

[hidden moth]

Pog

[hidden moth]

Hell yeah bro

[hidden moth]

Rip

[hidden moth]

How tf

Season 2 ends later tonight right? For PvP I still gotta spend my conq lol

[grave basin]

should be yea

usually ends earlier than reset

supa needs to get off outlaw

before he bursts a blood vessel

@dark kernel

[dark kernel]

I know I'm listening at work.

[grave basin]

yea i see you typing

[dark kernel]

Its pretty clear and my experience on outlaw matches his at this point

You legitimately need lottery tier matchups to push

You either get insanely good lobbies or you just get shit on, but almost every lobby is bad.

Its crazy to think my best lobbies are against DH

[grave basin]

i mean that lobby he just got

was crazy good for outlaw

he could play outlaw/boomy and thug

that very last round against warrior/sv

how tf is he last in damage

press blade flurry

[dark kernel]

It could have been a 4-2 for sure. But the problem is that warrior with an hpal is crazy good and the damage profile is high

Boomy disarm, survival disarm, root, war fear, priest fear, Hpal lay

Outlaw just doesn't synergize well with anything except boomy there, but it doesn't matter if war/sv do mega dam

[jaunty osprey]

people talk about wintrading in shuffles all the time

but

look at this LMAO - https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2530835098?t=01h28m05s

healers are wintrading for the hunter, so the people in there want to take their gear off so they can give the hunter losses xd

[grave basin]

no perma bans on Bnet account

no care

[dark kernel]

Don't exist anymore either.

[grave basin]

supa just looks

defeated

[dark kernel]

The fact that at his skill level, even with no experience on outlaw is experiencing the exact same yoyo

Is telling

[gleaming sentinel]

I’ve picked up some nuances that have given me a better win rate. Outlaw is not good, but can definitely change outcomes with pings and proper target calling

[dark kernel]

I found a few wins by going healer a bit occasionally. Even if it's just farming CDR on them and pressuring them while my DPS does damage to others

I If you have any specifics I'd like to hear it

[gleaming sentinel]

Yea just little things like pinging when to go healer, or using vanishes to play “goalie” so to speak. I found just kinda shutting down the enemy if I have a good carry dps on my team helps a lot. But once I start getting spam cc’d it can be tricky

When you slow the game down everyone hates you

[dark kernel]

I understand what you mean but just quantifiably it's hard to say

[gleaming sentinel]

Yea it is

[dark kernel]

Like you can definitely drag a game, but a lot of other classes do better into dampening

[gleaming sentinel]

I will say if my dps is low, I almost always lose

So if I get bad rolls i am just kinda boned in most lobbies

[dark kernel]

Yeah. See I feel that too, I either go into lobbies and I am ahead of everything and it forces defensive fast or I get mega peeled at start and it's playing behind and we lose

I like seeing warrior if there's no ret, I like DH, I hate any r sham.

R sham peels are disgusting #1 holy fuck

[gleaming sentinel]

If I’m productive with every vanish and crack shot spam I usuallly do well. At least that’s what I’ve noticed. I also could just be getting good lobbies

[dark kernel]

Its just kind of a toss up on action you know? So you use subterfuge to send CC so you are not interrupted on your go, but then lose damage? Or do you just crank damage hoping nobody sends any on you

[spring bough]

Patiently waiting two days for blizz to provide proof of why I got suspended…. Starting to think one dude mass reported me at this point

[potent pivot]

Oh you got suspended?

It’s prolly chat related if you’ve ever been actioned for it before

[hidden moth]

Unless I’m spamming “selling boosts” or using slurs/ being needlessly toxic I shouldn’t be banned from chat or suspended

[gleaming pawn]

The bar for “needlessly toxic” has been lowered significantly. You just should not be talking outside of straight forward strategy in chat anymore

[hidden moth]

that also gets u chat muted /suspended bc "spam"

[jaunty osprey]

@potent pivot

#1 rogue hater DOWN

[gleaming sentinel]

ok Q'ing up, last do or die lobby

[dark kernel]

Venruki actually to the shadow realm

[dark kernel]

Gl amigo. May you have better than I

[gleaming pawn]

A little surprised he has that high of mmr, Venruki is so washed these days

[dark kernel]

I don't think he takes WoW nearly as seriously but he has 19 rank 1s and got it last season

[jolly sierra]

deserved

[gleaming sentinel]

3-3, brutal lobby

1more!

[dark kernel]

Oooooof that fucking blows because if you had a few weeks banked MMR it would have slid

[gleaming sentinel]

honestly so close too, was 3-2 last rd with ret vs fdk / uh dk pres

[hidden moth]

garbage player went 0-6 suprised? im not

[dark kernel]

I hate that shit. Man. Fdk either just flop or go giga strong and if they don't flop eventually it just is over

Like 3rd go and it's lights out

[gleaming sentinel]

yea not sure what we could hav done, got them both low it was a good fight honestly

tahts how it goes

[spring bough]

I didn’t even talk shit to 1 person. It was “go here or go there” multiple times in blitz doing call outs and I remember one person being like “stfu stop spamming” was def that guy that reported me

[gleaming sentinel]

now a ret / bm / frost dk

we'll see

if i lose rating im done, if i win i made it

[jaunty osprey]

NO BULLYIN

[spring bough]

Say that in game u won’t

[gleaming sentinel]

went 0-6, the hpal who started 3-0 suddenly never used a single cd on my team

we lost in the first 30seconds every time, after him winning 3 dampeners

[dark kernel]

Fucking bullshit man.

[gleaming sentinel]

oh well, see ya next season

[dark kernel]

I know you got it on another character but there needs to be a memorial for us

[gleaming sentinel]

we'll try again s3 👍

[dark kernel]

Yeap

I didn't even get elite on blitz or play any other game modes so I don't even have the Tabard

Good thing it was ugly as shit

But I actually kind of like next seasons

[hidden moth]

https://youtu.be/IG_yEyZ9L7s?si=j7pPetUUZmaZmciR

pog

[spring bough]

have u ever seen some1 rated 2200 + have 4 wins going into round 5 and then leave the match for -150 rating LMAO

[atomic adder]

a nice last second elite push ill take it

[dark kernel]

Yes, unfortunately I had to do that the other day because my kid have woke up in the middle of night and was scream crying.

I let it go for like 6 minutes but I couldn't take it to keep pushing the last few rounds

It was my alt rogue, at least, but I was so mega tilted already

[spring bough]

damn bro i woulda beeen ttiiiiighhhhttttt

[dark kernel]

It would have been my first one of the day, I had only gone to four or even for like seven shuffles in a row

[gleaming sentinel]

surely outlaw is good next season

[dark kernel]

I've decided, I am so angry that I'm making both my ribs outlaw again, against my better judgment to send one as sub assassination

Just make sure to send games early and get your MMR up before they do any hot fixed nerfs

[spring bough]

why is Trill playing DH tank.... lmao

thing PUMPS and has 20mil HP

[stoic spruce]

DH has been busted since DF

VDH

Dps level of dmg and tank hp

I think I brought it up here then

[spring bough]

this dude doing 90mil ST damage with 20 mil HP

lol

[gleaming sentinel]

yea leapfrog is the move

with how easy gearing is you can do like 3-4 rogues rofl

[stoic spruce]

They didn't add pvp mods when they revamped vdh

[spring bough]

how do they forget some shit like that and never fix it lol

[stoic spruce]

In their defense, they don't have the data.

Because no one plays it

But mind you

When people play a tank spec in that condition

It always gets nerfed

[dark stump]

what's pvp mods?

[stoic spruce]

Is this sarcasm or do you really not know

[spring bough]

well got my 2nd account rogue setup for the next 3 weeks of the season XD

[gleaming sentinel]

"freevancleef"

[spring bough]

still waiting on an appeal reply

[dark stump]

nop maybe i know it in another langage but in english i don't know what it's <v<

[stoic spruce]

So basically

Some abilities are either nerfed or buffed in pvp content

[dark stump]

ooh

i had a doubt if it was thid

this* but tought like mods are something that modify the game no? xD

[stoic spruce]

Lol same thing but different

Ever seen karate kid?

[dark stump]

clips from short
but completly no

[stoic spruce]

That's not karate kid

I forgot what it's from

Anyways

Yeah the effectiveness is increased or reduced in pvp

[hidden moth]

ur rage baiting again

[stoic spruce]

You can watch trill rn

[hidden moth]

who dat

[stoic spruce]

Some streamer

[hidden moth]

better or worse than venruki

[stoic spruce]

No clue

Venruki fell off

[dark stump]

trilltko?

[dark stump]

venruki does pvp?

(this time i'm rage baiting)

[hidden moth]

always gives his hot take 2 cents on it

[spring bough]

he aent tho trill did like a milly dps as a tank DH

[hidden moth]

sigh

drop link

[spring bough]

i wasnt watching his stream i was in the lobby lol

[dark stump]

did u win?

[stoic spruce]

Crazy

[spring bough]

i went 3-3 cause the holy paladin went 0-6

[stoic spruce]

But that's how it goes

[dark stump]

typical heal diff lobby

[stoic spruce]

Kick hpal win game

Btw

Now that I have a witness to the vanity of vdh

[spring bough]

this was round 1 and his dps was 1.05mil when the round ended. took the pic outside of the arena so the dps went down

[stoic spruce]

I would like to say to you all

Told you so

[spring bough]

insane dmg from a tank

20 million HP is what he has too its so stupid

[hidden moth]

not that insane

blood does about the same

[stoic spruce]

From a tank

[spring bough]

i never seen no blood dk doing that

[hidden moth]

i did tf

i had a few blood dk lobbies at 2400

[dark stump]

i'm geniunely curious about why some play tank in ss do they find it fun ?

[stoic spruce]

Yeah

Sometimes they add something but that's rare

[spring bough]

i heard S3 blood dk gonna POP off

[hidden moth]

free why not fuck it

[stoic spruce]

Tanks come equipped with the best pvp talents too

[dark stump]

a week ago was in a ss with a druid (bis gear) the others were either honor gear or half geared conq
let's say that it was the first time i trashed a dh for doing half his dmg <_<

[hidden moth]

lol

cap

[stoic spruce]

How

[hidden moth]

mage exists

[stoic spruce]

So?

I'm talking exclusively pvp talents

[spring bough]

tell me more about these BIS tank pvp talents, Popo

[dark stump]

as a mage player i have no excuse but then there's elem who come with the best burst in the game

[hidden moth]

ya

mage

[stoic spruce]

Death Chains, AoE CC immunity from brm, prots thunderstruck

[dark stump]

worst game is playing against MM elem and unholy dk

[hidden moth]

has insane pvp talents tf

[dark stump]

depend on how u use it and if they let u use it

[stoic spruce]

Did I say they were bad?

[wind token]

Yo guys whats best rogue spec for pve in this patch?

[hidden moth]

u said tanks have the BEST

[stoic spruce]

Assa I think

[hidden moth]

im saying they arnt the best

sub or assa

[dark stump]

outlaw is getting buffed s3 so try it

[hidden moth]

depends on ur pref

[hidden moth]

its not

[dark stump]

ah

[hidden moth]

dont listen to this dude

[dark kernel]

I need to go back and watch. I want to see a vid of your match one day to see how you pump

[dark stump]

just go assa as always

[vocal surge]

He's being schizo lads

jump em