pvp

[grave basin]

what else is there to nerf from the 4pc

[stoic spruce]

Sometimes they nerf the 2pc

Did that in df

Regardless

[grave basin]

i mean running the 4pc has to be grief af

[stoic spruce]

There's still cdr involved and they'll assume that's good enough

[grave basin]

you lose so much haste

so it's basically the same

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/item-set=1928/shroud-of-the-sudden-eclipse

helm and shoulders have haste

everything is else mastery/x

[stoic spruce]

There's also off pieces and weapons

Jewelry etc

[grave basin]

[stoic spruce]

I'm not worried about the haste, we'll have enough

I got the haste on ptr easily

And the sets have the same stats

For kir too

[grave basin]

KIR needs like 19% haste no

[stoic spruce]

Yeah

You'll get the haste, I promise 💋

You will

I'm not lolol

Fuck that

[grave basin]

meh, feral looks like it could be fun next season since we can finally play haste mastery builds

[stoic spruce]

Might not even pvp tbh

Unholy lost dark transform and outlaw is outlaw

[grave basin]

im gonna push keys for the first time next season

and by push keys i mean just get 3k io

since my current record is zero, anything is a step up

problem is that in pve, feral is just dogshit boring AF

apm of a frail man with arthritis

and outside of berzerk windows youre doing tank damage

[dark moon]

Feral pumps in pve, what?

[grave basin]

did i say it does bad damage

[orchid plinth]

Outlaw mogs better Sword > Dagger

Aaaaand that's it

[grave basin]

dagger main hand thunderfury offhand > 2x swords

[orchid plinth]

That's bad and looks bad!!

[grave basin]

your subjective opinion is wrong and my subjective opinion is right

[stoic spruce]

Your subjective opinion is wrong and my objective opinion is right

[vocal surge]

Your subjective opinion is wrong and my objective opinion is right

[hidden moth]

@vocal surge yes flex on these hoes

[hidden moth]

2x swords is bis

bc why tf am i going to have a weapon with good reach juist to have a 2nd wep that i have to be so close to use its going to throw off the reason i have a sword to start with

[dark kernel]

They consider myself an expert in things that suck

[stoic spruce]

Give him credit for what I said one more time boah

Imma get the belt

[vocal surge]

I love this guild's culture already xD

Mak'gora other folks for LC items

[dark kernel]

Eww yeah I just realized the set has 3 piece mastery this time. It also has like no Vers

Rough

[gleaming sentinel]

Will probably be fine, we have excess vers already with the conquest stuff

[dark kernel]

Yeah. But I've been digging the super high haste build. Going to have to find it somewhere.

Ahhh

Last week of season today.

[gusty hedge]

[grave basin]

im so glad to be done with this shit ass season

[dark kernel]

I literally keep toying around at 2300

I just need some luck

Between the random shit and people either throwing on purpose it's grating man

Supatease is trying to do every spec to 2400 in shuffle and it's the last week and he has a negative win rate on outlaw at 1800 💀

[jaunty osprey]

Season 3 though

Don’t need much vers

Cause you’ll have 30% even just crafting everything

[dark kernel]

I know that's true

[jaunty osprey]

And then outlaw will have 40%

[dark kernel]

Its going to be a good gearing season for sub/sin that's for sure

[jaunty osprey]

just gearing normally

you dont want to DR your vers that much anyway

so it’s not TOO bad

[dark kernel]

Yeah

How are you set for end of season push?

You're playing sin/aff/Hpal no?

Fucking auto correct is awful for phone

[gleaming sentinel]

If he gets 2400 on outlaw before me I’m gonna crash out

[dark kernel]

He said unh DK was the hardest so far. But I don't think he has any idea

Outlaw has a worse win rate than brewmaster...

[stoic spruce]

Does that take population into account

[dark kernel]

Nah lol

[stoic spruce]

Unholy is pretty rough tbf

Got like

No kill pressure

[gleaming sentinel]

Just dies to every melee too

[dark kernel]

I lost to an unholy DK last night because he had a ret ally saving him some lobbies and then flipped on my team because I couldn't peel

Great stuff

[languid ravine]

I ve encountered ONE SINGULAR Unholy DK the entire season

and holy shit that spec pumps

too bad he died every round

[dark kernel]

I had my second unh lobby last night, and my first prot pal

I have not seen an Aug evoker yet.

[dark kernel]

He just went live and is doing outlaw after he finishes DH so probably today

The "this message may be inappropriate" halfway down made me laugh out loud.

Ahh

[stoic spruce]

Most sane mage

Most sane Tich player

[jolly sierra]

this will be deleted extremely fast

i am downloading it

sorry for ur parent btw

[stoic spruce]

I think he's mad Panda

I think he's really mad

You should've hit him with the "it's just a game"

[stoic lava]

actually so funny

[stoic spruce]

If he's competitive like me, that'd send him over the edge.

[jolly sierra]

disgustingly mad

[stoic lava]

I can not crack 2500 as law

I got just under it on 2 rogues but

it feels so bad 😱

Every outlaw in rank 1 right now is just coddled by last season mmr kinda wild

[grave basin]

most sane tich pvp enjoyer

[dark kernel]

You're over 2400? That's already impressive

Pretty much everyone up there is a multi glad or rank1

[dark moon]

Yes, yes you did, but that's not the point. Doesn't seem to be boring. Wish assa gets aoe rupture like ferals.

[grave basin]

i specifically said it's boring

with examples

so yes that's the point

low apm and all your damage in berzerk windows

[stoic lava]

yea I got like 2480 on 1 rogue and 2470 on the other

like 25 wins into legend but I cant bring my self to keep quieig rofl

[stoic spruce]

Dogshit boring

[stoic lava]

Im at the same mm ron my warrior inm y first 40 games playing it

pressing 2 buttons

If you like outlaw just play blitz its still bad there but more fun than arena 😻

[stoic spruce]

Not true

It's somehow worse

Running stealthed without adr somehow feels slower

[stoic lava]

outlaw isnt that badin blitz

just dont get to do damage

[dark kernel]

I will get there one day. I just don't think I'll make it this week

And I'd rather play a different game than BgBlitz

Rated BGs are only fun with the homies

[potent pivot]

Bruh

[stoic lava]

I believe

[grave basin]

I believe

[potent pivot]

Really don’t want to have to keep looking through screenshots of in game chats and seeing shit that bypasses the server filter

[grave basin]

No harm trying

[potent pivot]

Gonna have to start handing out mutes if it continues

[dark kernel]

I got pushed down to 2250 again last night

So we start again tonoght

[grave basin]

I got pushed down on my alt from 2360 to 2180

Luckily thats just a for fun alt but still

I'm grinding him back up too this week

[stoic spruce]

Don't act like you don't like to demonstrate your power ;)

[potent pivot]

I very much dislike it

[stoic spruce]

Untrue btw

[grave basin]

I didn't even know you can't send screenies of screeching flaming

Good to know

[potent pivot]

It’s just like

Not if there’s fucking slurs in them

[gleaming pawn]

I mean, why would one assume it’s ok to say slurs and gamer words by just sending a screenshot

“I’m not saying these filtered words, the screenshot is! I’m totally innocent”

[dark kernel]

Was their a slur? I thought it was just violent and unhinged

I don't remember

[stoic spruce]

They did say fuck a lot

Like a loooot

[gleaming pawn]

NoTrickz is there any hopes for an Envenom/KB focused Fatebound build this coming season?

[potent pivot]

Ye there was

[potent pivot]

No idea I’m not fiddling with things til it’s live

[gleaming pawn]

Fair enough, I’ll be trying to keep the dream alive in some 2s at least

[potent pivot]

My assumption is no because the base damage is still going to be too low, but at least with the tier set kb will do more overall than now

[jolly sierra]

dunno gotta send cat pics

[exotic dove]

Starting wow again after my weekend break and first two lobbies as Sub had a tank in them but here is the funny thing. The Blood DK one the healer left before a round started. Second Q pop was a prot pally lobby and then the warrior left before a round started. I know this is bad to be this way but I want to be thankful for those two more than upset they left

[dark kernel]

Leaving before a match starts helps you avoid the account wide penalty and you keep your mmr

[exotic dove]

Makes sense them leaving benefitted me so I didnt have to deal with a prot pally lobby and then a lobby with a blood dk

[languid ravine]

-Change two keybinds
-lose the equivalent of 500 rating in skill
brain please

[hidden moth]

It was my idea

[hidden moth]

Send screenshots

[hidden moth]

But I’m a good boy dad

[jolly sierra]

wait

[hidden moth]

Bet

[hidden moth]

im fucking dead

[jaunty osprey]

Not pushing end of season 3s

Don’t have time

This season

[agile kite]

Bros will there be another PVP season after season 3?

Is it just gonna go S3 -> Midnight?

Someone said no fated season, is there a chance they do S4?

[dark kernel]

No chance

Unless some freak incident happens and they abruptly have to delay it.

[abstract stratus]

Other than feral what other specs have to same brain feel as rogue? I tried windwalker and wanted to beat my head into the wall and everything else feels very zug

[dark kernel]

That's pretty much it as far as I understand.

[hidden moth]

mage

[dark stump]

what's wrong with ww ?

you can go mm

[abstract stratus]

I’m too stupid to get it to work. Like rogue comes easy to me but I play like a keyboard turner on ww

[dark stump]

bro there's no one more stupid than me and i think it's easier than mage or lock

[agile kite]

WW is so easy, it’s just a prio system

[dark stump]

u just have to hit another spell than the previous one

[agile kite]

Just takes a second to learn

[dark kernel]

WW is exactly like sub as you just need to learn the proper burst order to succeed

Its just different to you

[dark stump]

hmmm

i think ww is more like war , press every button and just either u trust ur healer and use a certain cd to burst and if not u keep it to heal urself

[hidden moth]

what cd u use for busrt but also heal lmfao

[dark stump]

this thing , i know the healing is negligeable but it somehow save sometimes

[hidden moth]

u legit

send that when

ur fist thing ends

[dark stump]

it depend

if i see the guy is nearly dead i do it

if it's a pala or hunt i just keep it

for either defense or another burst window

[hidden moth]

nah u just use it in rotation dawg tf

[dark stump]

https://tenor.com/view/it-works-cody-harris-the-cowboy-way-it-just-works-its-working-gif-18481837

[dark stump]

but like i said i do it when it will hit sometimes not on some turtle or bubble

[hidden moth]

u just swap targets

bc u want to keep ur burst chain going

[dark stump]

ooh

[hidden moth]

bc it reduces the cd on rising sun kick and fist of fury

[dark stump]

hmm the fact i won with monk while not know this show it's easy as a class

xD

[hidden moth]

i hit 1800 on all 13 classes this season

[dark stump]

i'm at my 4th class (mage)

am i cooked?

[hidden moth]

melee lobby free for mage

so strike of windlord will give u 8 seconds of 75% increased cd rate of strike of windlord fist of fury dragon punch slicing winds and reduce channel time of fist of fury

using conduit summons all ur celestials at 200% effectiveness giving u 150% cdr on those spells for 8 seconds

u also wanna use it while storm earth fire and xuen are active bc those give big dam buffs

[abstract stratus]

I guess I’ll give it another go and try to honor cap it for next season, it just feels kinda shit compared to what I’m used to

[hidden moth]

tbh i just

play what im good at and xfer honor

u also want to rising sun kick then press storm earth fire bc storm earth fire resets rsk cd and gives u chi

[dark stump]

https://tenor.com/view/reload-shotgun-dale-gribble-rusty-shackleford-king-of-the-hill-gif-1605028683175638604

[dark stump]

we don't know how it will perform with the next season t set

[potent pivot]

!warn @dark stump don't evade the filter

[dark stump]

ah mb

[hidden moth]

so are all screenshots baned

or just ones with slurs

[potent pivot]

i think the answer to this is obvious

[dark stump]

depend on who is insulting who no?

[potent pivot]

no

[hidden moth]

i jsut wanted to make sure

and to check if im an offender

[outer sky]

Anyone else been getting a TON of people leaving their SS lobbies lately??

Its been happening almost every lobby

[dark stump]

no just people throwing

[outer sky]

Over the last couple days

[dark stump]

last week maybe yes

i got like 4-5 one quitting mid game

[outer sky]

I mean

Its like

Every lobby

Someone leaves before the first match

During it

Or just after it

[hidden moth]

saving mmr

[outer sky]

But like every time. I haven't seen this all season

[hidden moth]

thats fair

im unsure

[dark kernel]

There's a group holding high rating matches hostage so DPS can't push

Kind of soft locking the rank 1 push

[dark stump]

what's ur cr?

[jaunty osprey]

Yes mingfarb

[outer sky]

What about him?

[outer sky]

2830 and 2720

[jaunty osprey]

It’s him doing it

Essentially he’s a chinese player, pretty well known

He’s raising awareness of how the ladder in China is being taken hostage

by people doing what he’s doing in NA

Blizzard CN won’t do anything about it

So he’s hoping to get it fixed by doing it in NA

Only 2 screenshots of the 15 lobbies I had him do it in

[jaunty osprey]

To add onto this - essentially they won’t let people play during certain hours unless you pay them to wintrade boost you

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/so-apparently-soloq-needs-a-huge-fix/2138497/12 to read more

This thread too - https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/can-blizz-just-ban-the-one-person-who-is-griefing-the-solo-shuffle-ladder/2138918

[hidden moth]

LOVE HAVING A 2 CAP EOTS

JUST FOR A WAR TO GRAB FLAG AND CAP IT

L;IKE

[spring bough]

broken game lmao

[hidden moth]

then he says he didnt cap it

when we see in game chat FUCK NUTZ CAPED THE FLAG LOST BOTH BASES AND THREW THE MATCH ENJOY UR LOSS

[outer sky]

Ive had him do a lot of it but its not only him. Ive had several others do it too

And the worst part is

It never happens in a lobby thats good for me

Nobody ever leaves the frost mage MM hunter double pally lobbies

[potent pivot]

i feel for them but this is not the way lol..

[dark kernel]

I'm only chuckling because it doesn't affect me

I've seen the guy actually play games though?

So does he just not do it every lobby

[hidden moth]

GUYS IM 2100 CR IN BGB NOW

IM FUCKING LOVING IT

people cant fucking spin mid somehow, war priest vs war priest mirror and cant win mid

[jaunty osprey]

He used to

He tanked from 2.7 cr to 0

Just leaving

mmr doesnt drop when you leave

[dark kernel]

I swore I just saw him have a match with completed games with voidchaos like 2 days ago but maybe my days are wrong

[languid ravine]

Here's what it feels like doing the Mists of Pandaria intro quest and talking in global 1 about mount farming:

[hidden moth]

wow

JUST GOT A LEAVER ON MY TEAM IN BGB

we fucking love it

[hidden moth]

the game lies

[cyan shore]

I’m not the greatest pvper but I’m still learning and trying to get better. But that shit pisses me off. I’ve been trying to get to 1950 for the weapon enchant. Get to 1900 and enter next match. Start the game with the same healer on my team for first 3 rounds. Lose first 3 and that healer leaves. I lose 64 points. Enter next match and same thing happens after 2. I lose another 25. So dumb

[jolly sierra]

you are lucky is not at 2k1 anymore the enchant

else would be like stepping on hell

[jolly sierra]

wtf

[hidden moth]

why are these ques dragging holy shit

[grave basin]

queues were popping yestd ngl

like 10-15min queues felt like a not dead game

although the same game was 960cr hpal with neg win lose in 3s at 2250

[stoic spruce]

10-15 minutes to play rated skirmish 💀

[hidden moth]

im

legit sitting on 2 accounts 2k bgb 1900 shuffle

25-30 minute que times

[grave basin]

howd you drop from 2.2 yestd to 2k

[hidden moth]

leavers

people caping flag

when we have 2x bases in eots

then getting 2 caped

when its 1430- 600

i legit

cant fucking carry these shit players

[grave basin]

average BGB experience

[hidden moth]

im winning 1v2s at nodes

1v2

killing both dps and taking the node

while my team is 7v6 and dying

also last game (somehow won) we insta died team fight bc we didnt have a single class that has heroism

not even a shaman taking personal heroism just 0 heroism classes

pvp predictions from supa tease

[grave basin]

ah yes

[hidden moth]

outlaw is lower than aug XD @dark kernel

[grave basin]

outlaw at D, like god intended

SV and WW at A, least likely to get nerfed and go under the radar

[grave basin]

aug lowkey pumps

when people dont know how to kick upheaval

legit kick that one spell and aug is completely useless

[hidden moth]

its so much dam lol

[grave basin]

aug is only so low in that tier list cause every1 wants to play dev and dev is also a 2 button spec

aug and Fdk are the same imo, just winning on gimmick one shot setups

[hidden moth]

thats why aug fdk is so good in 3v3 lol

[grave basin]

yea draco has been good since DF

[gleaming sentinel]

lol

Can’t wait to see how peeling spree feels

[stoic spruce]

Rogue below A is wild

[stoic spruce]

That's just rmp 2.0

[grave basin]

if RMP were a blender yea

[grave basin]

tickle spree

[hidden moth]

sub is s tier

[grave basin]

the duality of Rogue

outlaw and sub players are playing different games

[gleaming sentinel]

I think it'll do some dam, just the longest cast ever and easy to counter

[grave basin]

i dont think you even play it at all

just go fatebound and never spec into KS

[gleaming sentinel]

if that ends up being the case i think i'll quit the game tbh

[grave basin]

it's balanced around hitting 8 targets? pressing it in ST, especially in pvp leaving you to get CCed by everyone's WA air horns going off

sounds like massive troll

[gleaming sentinel]

its gonna be really good, or absolute garbage

[grave basin]

in it's current state the latter for sure

you CAN play it and press it to proc flawless form

but its gonna be like press and cancel immediately kinda deal

[stoic spruce]

Rogue is

Outlaw may not do damage but it's still really good

@grave basin Got something to say?

[grave basin]

Yea

It's really bad

I said it

[gleaming sentinel]

im gonna kidney / bomb and thoo thoo thoo

[stoic spruce]

You can't have spammable stuns, gouge, blind, and disarm AND be bad

[gleaming sentinel]

idc

[stoic spruce]

Not to mention bomb and kidney

And

Vanish and evasion on cdr

There is no argument. It's just a curse

[grave basin]

You can if you have no lethal damage

Which outlaw has none of

[gleaming sentinel]

like, i'd play assa but then you get into an evoker double paladin mage lobby and its like

why am i playing this game

[hidden moth]

tell that to only 10 people above 2400 on outlaw lol

[stoic spruce]

That's shuffle though

Outlaw requires coordinating teams

[hidden moth]

who tf is playing outlaw in 3v3 lol

[stoic spruce]

Normal people

It's where it's best

[hidden moth]

138 rogues 2400+ in 3v3 rn

7

7 of them

are outlaw

according to seramate

78 are sub

[stoic spruce]

That's because sub players don't know how good it is

Next season it'll be less

[gleaming sentinel]

sub just does the same job but better for most comps, but outlaw can still super work with an arcane mage or moonkin

[hidden moth]

53 are assa

[stoic spruce]

What he said

[hidden moth]

or how dog shit it is

[hidden moth]

can it work? sure

its still dog shit

[grave basin]

There's like 9 outlaws in 3s on NA above 2.4

[hidden moth]

i could mow 10 acres with a push mower, but boy golly i sure do love a riding mower

ur making the argument of

why drive a car to work when i can walk when ur job is 15 miles away

[stoic spruce]

Population doesn't dictate how good something is. Otherwise thered be a lot more of every rogue

[grave basin]

The cope is real

[hidden moth]

@potent pivot we got a rage baiter here

[potent pivot]

those are errywhere u go

ignore or block if you gotta

[stoic spruce]

You'll still be wrong

Js

[grave basin]

This is only an argument when the top players are playing it

[stoic spruce]

It's an argument all the time

Wdym

[grave basin]

Like a spec is so hard only top players are pulling it off

That's the Shadowlands outlaw meta

[stoic spruce]

Why would you play the worst spec of your class

[gleaming sentinel]

idk i like it and im gonna keep playing it

[grave basin]

Because then it's clearly not good

You can have the best toolkit ever but it doesn't matter

If you can't end the game

[stoic spruce]

Worst rogue spec = bad in pvp

Somehow

Infinite CCs

Indestructible

But also bad

Gouge blind sap

But bad

[hidden moth]

2 cap

noone rotates ww

i 1v3 spin

lose ww

then they

[stoic spruce]

Oof

[hidden moth]

cap lh

l;ike

[stoic spruce]

Worse bg too

[hidden moth]

SOMEONE FINDS A FUCKING WAY TO THROW

[potent pivot]

This is a dumb argument ngl

[stoic spruce]

Idk why they added gilneas

No one likes it

[hidden moth]

im going to kill myself

[potent pivot]

It takes a lot for me to say any rogue spec is “bad” but you have to admit that outlaw is kinda bad rn

[hidden moth]

@grave basin u can have my account

[stoic spruce]

It's damage is horrendous and you can't really justify playing it. I will admit.

Unless you just like it

[potent pivot]

Like it’s still viable if you’re a one trick or a masochist

[gleaming sentinel]

my cope rn is if i get really good while its bad, i'll be even better when it inevitably gets its day

[potent pivot]

But be fr

[stoic spruce]

Smooth seas don't make a great sailor

[grave basin]

the toolkit meme sailed long time ago

[gleaming sentinel]

[grave basin]

the only thing that matters is damage

like if you go by toolkit, fury warrior has the most bare bones tookits ever

yet it's so dominant

cause damage

[stoic spruce]

What it does have is really good

[grave basin]

same with WW

just damage

[stoic spruce]

WW has a disarm, offheals and an MS

Like

That's just unfair tbh

[grave basin]

WW has no offheals

[stoic spruce]

It can

[grave basin]

might as well use a bandage

if youre spam vififying your teammate youve alrdy lost

[gleaming sentinel]

if they take adr off the restless nerf and give killing spree soemthing to make it not useless

[hidden moth]

it can if u just sit still and use all ur energy to spam a trash heal that then makes it so u cant build ki so now u do 0 dam

lol

[stoic spruce]

Spamming no

Using it yes

Big diff

[hidden moth]

by that definetion dk has off heals

bc i can use shell on an ally

[stoic spruce]

Off heals means healing others

[stoic spruce]

That's only a technicality because for some reason absorbs counts as heals

[grave basin]

fury also has disarm and MS

[hidden moth]

it is healing lol

[stoic spruce]

Fury doesn't need an ms

Idk why they thought that was a good idea

[grave basin]

it has nothing unique after they nerfed slaughterhouse

yet it has

D A M A G E

[stoic spruce]

A stun disguised as a fear

[hidden moth]

arms has this 2

[stoic spruce]

What does arms have that fury doesnt

[hidden moth]

tbf we have a stun disguised as gouge

[stoic spruce]

True

[hidden moth]

a good defensive

[stoic spruce]

But theirs is aoe

[hidden moth]

die byt the sword

[stoic spruce]

And I'm envious

Wish we had aoe kidney

Naturally it was in subs tree

That's like blizzards poster child for rogue ig

[hidden moth]

sub has always been pvp rogue spec

tbf

[stoic spruce]

I think that was unintentional that mage and rogue, moreso sub, has perfect synergy with mage

[dark kernel]

it's already doing worse than Aug statistically

[stoic spruce]

Words can't describe how much I hate rmp

[stoic spruce]

You're doing worse than aug

[dark kernel]

Am I though

[stoic spruce]

No you're not

[dark kernel]

Correct

[stoic spruce]

[quaint locust]

Boa noite galera

[hidden moth]

english?

[stoic spruce]

Ily

I'm sorry

We just have different views on what makes something good

And that's okay

At the end of the day

I'm right

JOKING

@grave basin You too

Mages want us at each other's throats

https://tenor.com/view/lâmina-katana-anime-gif-18133937

I won't let that happen....

[quaint locust]

Boa noite. Galera

[outer sky]

Lol guys

So i just did a SS lobby

[potent pivot]

they're saying gn but pretty fuckin random lol

[outer sky]

Game 1 the MM hunter is on my team and we win. Then games 2, 3, 4, and 5 he's on the enemy team and is DCd the whole time and I won. Then game 6 he's on my team again, comes back, and we win

And everyone reported me for win trading

And i dont even blame them

Id think the same thing

[hidden moth]

ah gotcha

[gleaming sentinel]

[hidden moth]

@grave basin it doesnt stop

[grave basin]

Rip

[hidden moth]

free cr

[grave basin]

It's never been so joever

[gleaming sentinel]

this scuba dive needs to be studied

[grave basin]

It's like a crack addict asking for more shots

[hidden moth]

im bouta stream this shit or sum

or try to

so it can be enjoyed by everyonme

[grave basin]

I've never seen a bigger advertisement to not play bgb

[dark kernel]

can he come play with me next.

I haven't had a 6-0 lobby since 1900

[gleaming sentinel]

I tried to play leap frog with 2 outlaws, my main is 2800 my alt is genuinely hardstuck 1700

if that tells you anything

[grave basin]

Yea I'll stick to shuffle

[gleaming sentinel]

i did one on my alt last night and lost 1500-0 in temple

lol

[grave basin]

Bgb is the definition of you think you do but you don't

(if you only queue solo)

[dark kernel]

yeah you guys are nuts

[grave basin]

Queueing with a healer can't be so bad

[dark kernel]

i did 1800 in blitz season 1 and told myself I will not play that mode other than replacing random BGs with it to fuck around

[gleaming sentinel]

higher end blitz games are super fun man

[dark kernel]

its legitimate ass cancer

[gleaming sentinel]

bu tlower cr games are genuinely a coin toss if you dont duo q

imagine having friends

[grave basin]

Friends ? In my mmo?

[stoic spruce]

I can't believe I apologized and it didn't get mentioned

[grave basin]

Your apology shall only be accepted when you post the drustvar shuffle stats graph with an arrow pointing to where outlaw is

[stoic spruce]

This hatchet will be buried no more

[gleaming sentinel]

the game needs more cool hatchet transmogs

[stoic spruce]

I agree

I want new outlaw builds

I want I want I want

Uh

That's it really

[hidden moth]

ive had healers be dog shit

lol

ngl

enhance feels

like a better outlaw rogue

lmfao

[gleaming sentinel]

[hidden moth]

maelstorm wep is just

cps

lfmfao

[dark kernel]

I've had 5 failed shuffle queues

what are the odds its a wintrader

[grave basin]

At lower than R1 range close to zero

[dark kernel]

well

[dark kernel]

my shot of getting elite is gone

[jaunty osprey]

first NA 3k rogue

pog

[grave basin]

2300 to 2400 is 2 good lobbies

Not gone at all

[dark kernel]

im 2200 again

I got a okay cleave lobby, BM, UnH, War, Outlaw and 2x Rsham

not good not bad

UnH should go close to 0-6, but Unh/BM is actually really good

[stoic spruce]

🔥

[dark kernel]

warrior double trolls me both lobbies and only will sit the Hunter and gets turbo kited to kingdom come

Me and UnH steal a lobby together, and me and BM do fine one lobby, but he gets rushed down the other, so instant 2-4

idk man, Im just like war, UNh is the weakest defensive spec in the game. You have the healer with the most kiting and root potential and you want to stick to a hunter who also has roots out the ass and you're complaing you cant, why are you chasing

im about to start typing disertations and trying to hand hold every lobby and see if that works

like no bullshit, do what I say

[stoic spruce]

Unholy x Outlaw is sleeper ngl

New anime dropped

[dark kernel]

Its fine but into war BM he just gets tunneled down

Disarm unh when he gets low intim shout /cc healer night night

[grave basin]

Idk mang

Feels like the wrong mindset

I know it's technically correct that teammates can troll but it's better for your mental to focus on what you could have done better

Are all your globals 100% perfect? If not then it's more productive to just focus on that

Just think "would whaaz have 2-4d that"

[dark moon]

What would Jesus do in this lobby

[stoic spruce]

Spread positivity and give constructive criticism

[outer sky]

People are so salty lol

[halcyon timber]

Completely fine when they taco bell baja blast on someone like a training dummy without getting cup checked though.

[jolly sierra]

oh boy, new way to insult, if someone its mad about you winning just say the last word there

[dark kernel]

No you're right, and I've never outright whispered or blamed a single player. However there's always so many choices you can make and you can never know for sure which was right.

[grave basin]

For sure, good to get an experienced eye to vod review if you wanna really make the fastest leap in skill curve

It's like someone at 1600 thinks he's doing an alright job even when watching his own vod, but you being much more experienced can tell him 102937 things he's doing wrong starting with the big ones

Instead of him having to figure it out himself

[wanton breach]

holy crap that's huge

[dark moon]

Congrats! Do you have vods/youtube if you're recording by any chance?

[hidden moth]

Woooo

Chat banned till the 6th

Bgb grind finna be hella fun

[orchid plinth]

gj kiddo

[dark stump]

how?

[grave basin]

The usual

Flaming in chat

And/or getting mass reported by your whole team multiple lobbies in a row

[gusty hedge]

sheesh, next will be suspended haha
blizz snt even chat ban me anymore just 3 month ban

[gusty hedge]

@covert zodiac

[dark stump]

should i try feral or dh for my next class ?

or even pala

[hidden moth]

Bro worst insult I’ve used was “my autistic dog can play better than you”

Didn’t even use slurs

[hidden moth]

Like bruh people talk shit then get flamed and report you

Istg it’s like driving up to the police station waving a gun around and being suprised when you get shot

[hidden moth]

Pala is free cr

[stoic spruce]

my work week is over

time to kill some floors

[verbal field]

Jackpot.

[dark stump]

i will note it

i play league of legends

[dark kernel]

I need vod reviews

[gleaming sentinel]

Honestly watching my vods myself helped a lot

[dark kernel]

I have a few I can watch. I start pretty strong but I also play every game sleep deprived so that kind of hurts.

I need to clean up my globals usage. There should almost never be a moment I'm not pressing a damage spell, rtb, or a stun.

[jaunty osprey]

Not this season, but I do occasionally stream sometimes when I play - can’t link, but you can find it around 🙂

[jaunty osprey]

can you ping while chat banned??

[dark kernel]

There really is not a lot of good WoW learning content for like

Moderate to higher level gameplay

[barren geode]

guys I have a question

why do all top rogues only use 2 set in pvp and not 4 set?

[potent pivot]

Depends on the spec.. usually just for more mastery if the 4set bonus isn’t that good etc, but these things usually don’t matter

[potent pivot]

Meant to reply^

[barren geode]

top 100 sub rogues

all got

2 set

[potent pivot]

Idk what you’re looking at but that isn’t quite what I’m seeing

[jaunty osprey]

NA Rogues don’t really know anything

[barren geode]

on checkpvp

ranking

sub rogues

they only use head

sorry

shoulder

and chest

as set items

[jaunty osprey]

And a lot of top AWC players

dont actually

know how to sim or gear properly

[barren geode]

idk

[jaunty osprey]

But for example, Akro uses 4 pc

[potent pivot]

if you look at murlok.io it shows the top 50 world's gear/talents etc

[barren geode]

i just need someone

i can go for

his gear / stats

max i wanna reach is 2,4 if im able to

if not

[potent pivot]

you'll be fine copying basically anyone

[barren geode]

2k is enough

yea

[potent pivot]

the differences in gear are like ~1% dps

[jaunty osprey]

Use 2 pc or 4 pc, it wont be what makes the diff for 2400 or not

[barren geode]

ahh

fuck it then

[hidden moth]

Haven’t tried yet

[barren geode]

if its just 1%

it doesnt matter like u said

[potent pivot]

yeh

gear these days is very w/e

as long as you're fully geared in good ilvl shit and heavy mastery you'll be aight

[barren geode]

also ive got a question guys

which embellishment is this?

[hidden moth]

Energy redistribution beacon

Jk jk

[barren geode]

xd

[hidden moth]

Just go to the crafting order thing and look through the embellishments

[barren geode]

focusing lens

ahh

[dark stump]

how do some people are fully geared with 0 pvp historic

[potent pivot]

crate farms

[dark stump]

let's say an average of 7k to get all gear
crate give 60 which bring us to 7000/60 = 116 crate
just getting 10 crate and i feel bored

[gleaming pawn]

You can get several hundred conq a day doing daily BG wins, and they could have just done their weekly cap since season start

[dark stump]

oooh

[potent pivot]

you can get ~18 crates per hour

join a war crate farming raid

[hidden moth]

War crate farm go hard

Gonna find people on the 12th Lmf crate farm

[grave basin]

queues are POPPING

at 2350

7min queues

[molten hedge]

Has anyone gotten the lowdown coat? If my math is mathing, I’m calculating 24 hours of shoveling shit for the research

Is that right bc holy shit

[gleaming sentinel]

bfa timewalking has a nice one similar to it

[molten hedge]

I haven’t heard of that what’s it called? And how much easier is it

[jaunty osprey]

Yesss

[molten hedge]

Jfc man

[gleaming sentinel]

2500 timewalking badges just buy the ensemble

[molten hedge]

Deff not as badass sadly

The Slands coat is similar

[gleaming sentinel]

ashvane smuggler or w/e

[molten hedge]

The PvP one

[gleaming sentinel]

then get to farmin homie

[molten hedge]

Yeah that’s aura

[grave basin]

ok i spoke too soon

wtf is this?

im not taking that lol

[molten hedge]

Are the pants the ones off the AH? On my server they are 200k lol

[grave basin]

another queue pops 40seconds in

and its being spam declined

are people really win trading at fucking 2350

legit ELEVEN declines in a row

??????????

[dark kernel]

This happened me last night and the lobby was kind of funky

[jaunty osprey]

Pants are black tuxedo pants

[jaunty osprey]

Not even wintrading - it’s end of season trolling that always happens

😭

[grave basin]

i mean if youre gatekeeping r1 i understand trolling

[jaunty osprey]

But for it to happen this early in the day is crazy

[grave basin]

but this is wednesday at 2350

[jaunty osprey]

healers can get dps lobbies like 400 mmr above and below them

So a 2600 healer can get 2350 lobs and also 3k lobs

And troll queues

[grave basin]

😔

i just want my 2nd elite before season ends

[dark kernel]

I have PTSD from rsham lobbies

I don't know if that's just me.

[verbal field]

@potent pivot what u say trickz? pretty cool huh 😎

[potent pivot]

gzgz

[wanton breach]

Frontline Necromancer are a better fit

[grave basin]

IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN

MAKE IT STOP

@jaunty osprey

help

it just failed at 5

[jaunty osprey]

😭😭 take a break for 1 hr

I guess

[grave basin]

i mean

it's going again

decline decline decline

do i even bother taking the queue

ok it finally passed

will report back

something isnt right here

[dark kernel]

Unless it's an alt

Or something.

[grave basin]

im safe

should have 4d but the first round the ret died from SEVENTY PERCENT

i mean what is this

that's definately enough arena for tonight lol

[dark kernel]

That's tilting

[molten hedge]

That’s a regular day at the office in this meta tbh

[dark kernel]

Honestly I think the biggest thing that bothers me

Is when you have 5 super competitive sweaty games you're 3-2 on your last match, and out the gate great opener only for the match to end by 30 seconds because your partner loses their hands and hits no defensives

Or worse when they do it to you both times for 2-4

[gleaming sentinel]

It’s always a ret or a hunter

[dark kernel]

It actually is. And rarely in my cases, a DK but Only unholy

[molten hedge]

Ret is so real. Their globals are super slow and they miss bubble sometimes lmaoo

[dark kernel]

I legit have a vid of me getting a lock wall, trinket, paladin bop, and my MM hunter uses no defensive and Hpriest uses nothing and he just fucking dies

Nobody was in CC

Like how

[dark stump]

i suppose it's fire mage , next season meteor is getting buffed <v<

[grave basin]

i mean no spec should 70-0 you no matterwhat lol

in 1 global

[dark stump]

cough elem cough

[grave basin]

especially since theres no build up

ele has to prim wave

set wrath totem

[dark kernel]

Tell that to arms, ww, mm. Ele, boomy, mage

[grave basin]

cast bloodlust

ascendance

like theres 50 nuclear launch sequence before he taps you

[dark stump]

i got 100% to 0 in less than 2 sec because of elem

but it depend on who is playing

[halcyon timber]

Shaman claim lava burst does no damage xD

[dark stump]

like this elem who was literally on free cast and couldn't kill my healer

yes double mage is toxic in ss

[grave basin]

that is a cursed lobby

[dark stump]

yes i know

i got this lobby yesterday

[grave basin]

at mugambala too

omegalul

[molten hedge]

You forget Destro, enh, arcane, and sometimes fdk

[dark kernel]

You're right but arcane has magi, frost you see it coming. And even tho destro bolts may be 1 second. You can still see them.

[grave basin]

controvertial warm take

but if you die to ele one shot you need more awareness and there's nothing wrong with it

[molten hedge]

Idt boomie is one shotting outside of their dreamburst/incarn go although they do big dam for sure if they stack a bunch of AP

The front loaded damage of that go is scary asf

[dark kernel]

I'm not going savy enough

Boomy

[dark kernel]

Isn't the issue that Ele play random proc ascend and as such you can't track their burst potential that well?

[dark stump]

like i said it depend on the user cause i got in a lobby with an arcane who did three times less damage than me
i was at 150m
he was at 50 m and he was free casting

[dark stump]

easy if u play range kite , play behind a pillar then get trash talked by him next round
if u are melee pray they nerf him next season

[molten hedge]

The only reason a free casting arcane wouldn’t do that much damage is if they’re getting spam ccd and kicked. Otherwise a free casting arcane would do well over 1 mil dps

Ppl act like doing damage on arcane is hard. It’s not you just spam 2 buttons lmaoo

[grave basin]

random proc ascendance doesnt really one tap you

anymore

it used to for sure last season

[dark kernel]

Shows how much I know honestly

I haven't seen a whole lot of ele this season tbh

Ele, unhdk, and all of a sudden I haven't had a DH in like 3 weeks in a match

Every lobby is Hunter, maybe a warrior, mages, and then usually assassination Rogue

What's the addon or WA that tracks ENEMY cooldowns

I have ally tracking

[hidden moth]

Omni bar

[potent pivot]

omnibar

[hidden moth]

I use 2

[potent pivot]

there's also gladiusEX but its kinda meh

[hidden moth]

One tracks enemy defensives/offensives the other is just for kicks

[potent pivot]

oh

sweepyboop's addon

get that

[hidden moth]

Sweepy bops is goated

[potent pivot]

"sweepyboops pvp helper"

[hidden moth]

So easy to track where my healer is

[dark stump]

i used sweepy to keep an eye on my target since sometimes i lose to where she is
but i have disactivated since i switched to skillcapped addon pack

idk if it's any good to be honest

[potent pivot]

ye skillcapped uses betterblizzframes/plates

its also fine

[dark stump]

i don't think betterblizzframes were included in the one i'm using

maybe cause it's the free one

[potent pivot]

it should have it

[outer sky]

I did it.

The lobby was Frost Mage, MM Hunter, Ret pally, double HPal

I just /afk'd out

Before the first round

Because why bother

[potent pivot]

just log out

[outer sky]

What difference does it make

[potent pivot]

no deserter

[outer sky]

Ah

Oh well its only 15m

[gleaming pawn]

Eh I would be wary of doing that, because Blizz could easily come back and say it was abusing an obvious unintended bug. Especially with the potential eyes on the problem because of that guy putting a spotlight on it

[hidden moth]

Whats this icons in the center of my game i deleted all addons and downloaded some

[gleaming pawn]

The built in cooldown manager

[hidden moth]

oh derp okok

ty

is it the assisted highlight?

i dont have them on

[gleaming pawn]

No, use the search the interface options for cooldown and you should find it

[hidden moth]

its all off

whats this my arena frames the teamates one

[potent pivot]

you have it turned on in either gladius or BGE

[hidden moth]

it was BGE got it thank you!

[hidden moth]

@jaunty osprey i can

still ping

[dark kernel]

That's the macro command for pings

Adding that shit to my blind

[hidden moth]

@grave basin

its only downhill from here

about to be sub 2k

teammates cannot resist fucking caping on eots

[dark kernel]

Turn brain off do team fights turn that off enjoy game

[hidden moth]

lol

true

[dark kernel]

You already have legend

[hidden moth]

im 6 short

of stratagist

if i wasnt so close

i wouldnt care

[dark kernel]

There is literally no worthwhile achievement from that game mode

Yeah but who cares?

[hidden moth]

i do bc i got it last season

[dark kernel]

I guess it gives you a badge on check pvp

[hidden moth]

so if i dont get it this season

i fell off

[dark kernel]

Lmao. I'm going to be real there is no respect for those achievements. Your elite and legend in solo shuffle is infinitely larger a marker for skill

But I get itm

[hidden moth]

ik ik

[indigo hill]

Why are games over 2k thrown so easily? I normally don't bother increases my rating on a char once i got the elite set but since we at the end i decided to just push a bit more and now i've had multiple games where people just left after losing a round or 2.

[hidden moth]

well u see

someone gets fflag in eots

we have 2x cap

then they cap flag

and bases reset

[indigo hill]

Sorry, should have been more precise. I meant in solo shuffle over 2k rating.

[hidden moth]

now we go from 2x bases and enemies unable to get any points to now having to fight for bases again and flag and it can end horribly

[hidden moth]

bc 2k+ people have somewhat of a brain and

can sniff out the weak link

[dark kernel]

Happens much more at end of season due to frustration and emotions.

To be honest. I don't like pushing at all once end of season announcement is made. Stuff gets messy

[hidden moth]

@dark kernel

ele resto enhance

[dark kernel]

I hate those lobbies, but I see a 4-2 there

Give your warrior an intervene Target out of remorseless winter against the DK

Because he's going to have to use a leap and intervene to get out

[hidden moth]

im enhance lol

and went 3-3 dk went 5-1

lost a round bc war wennt to narnia instantly

mount run---> leap----> charge behind piullar with a fucking ele sham at start of the game

bro got globaled

[dark kernel]

Oh man I wasn't paying enough attention I thought you were on your sin

Yeah then that's mega rough for you

[hidden moth]

"why are u quing shuffle in full greens" someone asked me

"why am i playing in your mmr?" i responded

assa enhance feral dh rdruid hpal

who wins here

[hidden moth]

im just

built diff

[gleaming sentinel]

Legend player bullies beginners

[hidden moth]

im on a alt class i picked up this season

in full greens no enchants

thats fair

[dark kernel]

Yeah but that's 1900

Those people are also in mostly greens probably lmao or just way less akilled

[hidden moth]

nah brother

these guys are in full fucking conq gear XDDDDD

not all of them but most are

@dark kernel

lol

only one other person in these lobbys with some hnor pieces lol

warrior went 5-1 btw

how do i report someone

who isnt in my lobby

and didnt say a word

bc he left

i can report fort communication but thats a false report

doesnt give me an option to report for throwing

like

WTAF BLIZZ

bans people for false reports buyt their report system is actually so fucking dog shit u cant do it properly

[dark kernel]

Wild

I need to level my watrior

[hidden moth]

@potent pivot whats the work around

Yakuzza-Alexstrasza

[potent pivot]

there is no work around

you would've had to report them off their frame or something during the match

[hidden moth]

so

im fucked

great

blizz shitty system strikes again

[potent pivot]

[red tiger]

prob manual ticket

[hidden moth]

those dont get read lol

[red tiger]

idk i always get a human response

[hidden moth]

eevrytime i put in a ticket it alkways took 10+ days and got bot responses

[grave basin]

Just stop queueing and call it a wash

Legit strategist has zero weight anyway

You can be a 2800 player be hardstuck 1800

[hidden moth]

had someone say legend is = to 1500 in 3v3 lol

[grave basin]

That's a bit of a stretch

[hidden moth]

what do i do in the last week then? keys?

[grave basin]

Maybe 2.1

Keys or chill

Farm honor for the bloodstones

I have quite a few banked up by now

[hidden moth]

ngl

enhance needs better defensives

its kit is kinda dog shit

1 charge of hunter survival of the fitest lol

[gleaming sentinel]

“Outlaw but better” I thought

[hidden moth]

we at least do damage

so tired of afk/ leavers

5th one today in 1900 mmr range kekw

[spring bough]

https://youtu.be/-iifAkR_hy8?si=5MEzrpo3PvZXiI13

MOP rogue pvp looks wicked

[hidden moth]

yeah but like

mop

shitty ass talent trees

pvp may be good but levelign takes sooooo long

[grave basin]

Mop rogue was historically really freaking bad

I rmbr only 1 rogue world got R1 in early mop

Outside of blades you just afk

[dark kernel]

New PTR notes, additional 3.5% damage to outlaw, the 17% lucky coin damage could be interesting

I think that makes 13.5% global outlaw damage buff, also killing spree damage buff

[grave basin]

Sv dodged nerfs yet again

Legit about to be the meta hunter spec

Nerfing ww tier set is lame though

The haste and cdr was all the fun of it

[exotic dove]

Well that 4% buff to Assa would have been too much after the last two times they buffed it

[potent pivot]

why you leaving out the real spec

[exotic dove]

Not surprised they didnt buff sub in pvp