Except paladins :]
#pvp
vocal surge
potent pivot
Except paladins :]
vocal surge
^
vocal surge
<a:huh:1072539415261499412>
It was a reference to a Ret Paladin reaching 2400 with PvE gear, almost no versatility
potent pivot
oh kek
dark stump
"You gotta be smart or pretty to make it, you can't be neither"
or rich
stoic spruce
You dont get rich by being dumb
stoic spruce
"You gotta be smart or pretty to make it, you can't be neither"
Pay attention
dark stump
You dont get rich by being dumb
but u can if ur parent were (rich) <v<
stoic spruce
I bet you feel really smart don't you
dark stump
:3
indigo lava
Hi everyone, hope you're doing great!
I haven’t played since Season 1, could you please let me know which addons are currently popular for PvP?
grave basin
The exact same as s1
gusty hedge
Who dat trash rogue down there?
stoic spruce
Dude
I legit thought I replied to you lmaoo
I did in my brain
ciao
see yall next season
potent pivot
Hi everyone, hope you're doing great!
I haven’t played since Season 1, could you...
Pins
gleaming sentinel
hmm 2393 on sub, do i just wait for tuesday so i can get the 3-3 and be done
spring bough
hmm 2393 on sub, do i just wait for tuesday so i can get the 3-3 and be done
nah do it now
stoic spruce
Every time.... damn you Todd Howard
dark stump
weird
spring bough
Wow get a new skin?
dark stump
is the pvp in season 3 available day 1 or is there a delay ?
potent pivot
Hey Trickz , I’ve been away for a while, hope you’ve been doing great.
i've been alright, same to you
potent pivot
is the pvp in season 3 available day 1 or is there a delay ?
there's an off season
spring bough
i feel like an extra stealth for outlaw gonna be OP next season cause its just more coin flips. do i abandon the kul tiran for S3 pvp and go with my night elf?
broken otter
is the pvp in season 3 available day 1 or is there a delay ?
When season 2 ends, there's a 1 week period where you can't earn anymore season rewards, but can still earn conquest and buy non elite conquest gear.
After that week ends, all conquest resets to 0, honor doesn't reset, and the new season officially begins.
dark stump
oooh so to prepare for season 3 it's better to stack honor?
broken otter
Yes.
You can use honor you earn today, to buy a complete set of season 3 honor gear the day it launches.
(the day season 3 launches) honor gear will be season 2 gear during the off week
dark kernel
i feel like an extra stealth for outlaw gonna be OP next season cause its just m...
If you want an easier time pushing and try for legend, probably
dark kernel
Who dat trash rogue down there?<:omegalul:585734084777476096> <:OMEGAKEKW:829051...
Bleakshade is on my server and I've never seen that dude
spring bough
another day and some more invincible tries
indigo lava
i've been alright, same to you
Do you have any profile recommendations I can use for the addons?
potent pivot
Do you have any profile recommendations I can use for the addons?
most of them you just have to tweak to fit your needs
betterblizzplates/frames comes with profiles to choose from
spring bough
betterblizzplates/frames comes with profiles to choose from
kalvish profile on these is pretty good
halcyon canopy
is sub better than by a large margin or is it pretty even?
spring bough
i wish u didnt have to clear ICC to go to the lich king
get into a game... lock immediately leaves... i whisper him why and he goes gotta eat lunch..... GG
potent pivot
is sub better than by a large margin or is it pretty even?
nah
can mostly play w/e you want
outlaw feels a bit shit but depending on your goals its aight
dark kernel
I have not seen a feral druid and a lobby and sometime
spring bough
said they were a healer main
dark kernel
vancleef making outlaw look broken
He is the only person who makes it seem like a semi-works that exist in here
dark kernel
Show me your CC breakdown that shuffle
I'll be sitting here gouging the off target using hookshot on every kidney to the healer blinding my own kidney, I'll end up like third on DPS
spring bough
Show me your CC breakdown that shuffle
its too late i cleared the details sorry boss
i dont even have gouge talented lol
ive had too many mages complain about it i just stopped using it
dark kernel
its too late i cleared the details sorry boss
Yeah I know that from mages but man I only have mages like one every five lobbies
dark stump
isn't outlaw just a gambling class?
i played 50+ ss and never saw 1 outlaw
is it never played in low rate ? (0-1800)
potent pivot
is it never played in low rate ? (0-1800)
everything is
spring bough
isn't outlaw just a gambling class?
always a gamble pretty rare too see too
potent pivot
outlaw isn't very popular even when its OP
hidden moth
"roll the bones ruined combat rogue"
-some grey parsing chud on classic era servers
how are ques rn
spring bough
im in a 2300 lobby and its me an arms war, a prot war and an arcange mage with a resto sham and disc priest.... RIP
exotic dove
I hate my mindset. I have over a week and a half left but I want to settle. I am 2300 on two rogues as sub and 2400 on four rogues as Assa. I have no drive to push legend or sub to 2400 despite have a good winrate. Why do I do this? Anyone else get like this how do you get out of that mindset and keep pushing?
hidden moth
I hate my mindset. I have over a week and a half left but I want to settle. I am...
do it or ur a bitch
spring bough
You can maybe 4-2 If you play for dampening
3-3 and no rating RIP
hidden moth
mama aint raise no bitch did she?
brave fern
I hate my mindset. I have over a week and a half left but I want to settle. I am...
Not a pvp sweaty but you probably need incentive
hidden moth
thats my mindset at least lol
exotic dove
thats my mindset at least lol
Not a bad mindset
exotic dove
Not a pvp sweaty but you probably need incentive
Yeah my incentive is just gone I am sitting here qing on both my accounts on my bnet and I just don't care anymore.
Everytime that 2.4 hits incentive goes away
dark kernel
I hate my mindset. I have over a week and a half left but I want to settle. I am...
It depends what your goals ultimately are. I'm trying to hit $2,400 for the first time this season, but my goal really isn't just elite.
It's just knowing that my school level has increased, next season pushing threes seriously to see where I can go
I personally want a gladiator title eventually
Since I missed my opportunity years ago
brave fern
Incremental incentive isn't bad. I know it's not the same but like a season ago I told my guild mate "m+ feels so pointless you get geared get an achievement and some subpar mount then what, do it all again later?" And he was like yes.
Then I quit and came back then somehow found a love for the game
Now I have a similar attitude for pvp as well but I don't care if I'm good or not
dark kernel
Incremental incentive isn't bad. I know it's not the same but like a season ago...
Yeah I physically cannot understand m+ personally
brave fern
I treat shit like souls
dark kernel
Its on the same level as speed running a single player game
brave fern
You die till you win
brave fern
Its on the same level as speed running a single player game
It's fun when you vibe
exotic dove
Actually Patience maybe I should take a break this weekend and come back
that could be a good idea
brave fern
Not a bad idea actually
exotic dove
see if that works
brave fern
I was doing more dogshit a season ago on my rogue then when I came back I was cranking better and knew my binds better
I guess giving some time as a break helped
exotic dove
I actually consider myself bad and at least that helps me not to be over confident
but yeah ill take a break this weekend and see what happens this coming week
dark kernel
I forced myself to play some mopper after I tanked really hard the other day
The brackets are so insanely volatile right now
exotic dove
These past couple of days they have indeed been volatile been playing sub though and it worked out for sure. I did enjoy yesterday when I punished this rdruid for being aggressive and stunning him no trinket out of form. smoke bomb him so I couldnt be cced and solo killed him from 80% lol
My War was not paying attention and going on the feral
dark kernel
I half wish I committed to sub this season like I did last season.
This shit would be easier.
exotic dove
Sub Rogue is fun indeed
If I commited to Sub instead of Assa than I probably would have hit 2.4 sooner than I did as well
hidden moth
If I commited to Sub instead of Assa than I probably would have hit 2.4 sooner t...
sub just has thatr
umpfff to win games fast
In my case i can solo carry with sub. With assa its kinda hard i believe u need better teammates
hidden moth
In my case i can solo carry with sub. With assa its kinda hard i believe u need ...
ya feels like all i can do is keep dots up and either cc to peel for them or cc for their goes since we reallyh dont have an offensive cd
with the state death mark is in for pvp it reallyt needs to be a 30 second cd imo
dark kernel
Sub has kill potential. Sin does too, just not as bursty, and sin has way better damp than outlaw.
hidden moth
Sub has kill potential. Sin does too, just not as bursty, and sin has way better...
it is a rot class after all
thats why assa aff is so fucking good bc ur just taking 2x rot classes in with a healer thats good into damp or can cc chain well ex hpal
lock hpal fear and rep are spamable and dont dr so
they just fear fear fear into hoj rep spam
on enemy healer
exotic dove
Sub has kill potential. Sin does too, just not as bursty, and sin has way better...
I think the point being made is Sub can literally kill you at any time it wants doesn't matter if it is the start, middle or end. Sub makes Assa feel like it has no kill potential at all and Sub actually has offensive cd that is actually good too.
Not saying Assa doesn't have kill potential but when you play Sub it makes everyone else in the lobby have the fear of God put into them
dark kernel
Yeah the sub changes ended up really nice. Last season it was a tad underwhelming
exotic dove
when you zone in
hidden moth
its also ass being assa teamed with a sub bc
our damage is so unsynced due to on e being high rot and the other being the literal epitomy of burst damage
vocal surge
Double Outlaw + Assa rogue thou?
Giga cleave with mass silence in previous seasons
ezpz arena wins when the entire team stacked up and got AOE garrote silenced
dark stump
legend is now 100 wins up from 50?
funny with the way pvp game becoming scarce
worthy crag
should replace those dks with a surv hunter and a voker
no
two surv hunters
holy fk who has time to grind 100 wins
dark stump
guess why i only won 5 times (dk frost is pretty op)
dark stump
who died ? unholy or blood?
worthy crag
ppl are quitting pvp as is, you shuold give him a pity win
hidden moth
who died ? unholy or blood?
hpal
dark stump
hpal
just got into a lobby with 2 rogue (sub + sin) and 1 feral
good thing with being low rate is that most people don't know what each does
dark stump
hmmm did u ask him why?
kinda weird i don't think blood dk have enough burst with rogue for him to not being able to react
dark stump
Feel like every hpala i meet are either tilt or just bad
hidden moth
smoke bombin on another rogues bomb
but like
making a vein diagram with it
is so fun
lmfao
hidden moth
almost done its not too bad
the only round the hpal won was double assa on his team and the dks on the other side lol
worthy crag
just realized i also have out of state travel plans next weekend
yeah fuck this 100 win stuff, im ending with elite
gleaming sentinel
Nice dude
dark kernel
Nice dude
Thanks. Normally I wouldn't care, but I've been down bad
I think I'm just going to play a single shuffle round every so often and see where it takes me
Qs are instant right now though
gleaming sentinel
I’ve been grinding sub and assa but I already miss outlaw
dark kernel
I prefer sub the most I think, but it's weird cuz I feel like I do nothing for so long
hidden moth
lost 6-09
bc mage
doesnt ice block
reeeeeeee
also hate dks
bro doesnt grip mage bl;inlk
till 3 seconds after i fucking step
nvm shoudlve been 6-0 till mage doesnt block, dk trolls griping after i step and get 0 uptime innto healers refusing to fucking dispell roots
having to send trinket on roots is
soooo fucking feels bad man
spring bough
every1 be at tazavesh lol
hidden moth
wym
spring bough
farmin mounts lol
hidden moth
what mount lmfao
spring bough
ported here waiting out a que and like 20 people outside... the disc mount
hidden moth
not liek any are going away
isnt there like 5 new disc mounts coming with 11.2 as well
lol
hidden moth
ported here waiting out a que and like 20 people outside... the disc mount
here in a bit u wanna que bgb?
spring bough
im in a blitz on the alt rn lol
hidden moth
ayo
lost fdirst round of shuffle
winable
game freezes for 3-4 seconds
and i die bc i cant see whats goin oin
spring bough
which one of u sub rogues is in my solo right now
hidden moth
tired
of caster cleave lobbies
aff lock mage run me over, ww hard counters aff lock
like
what is this lobby
dark kernel
druids to kill at least?
hidden moth
canty touch
dark kernel
those prob suck for sin rogue, but seeing Rdruid is like the only thing that makes me happy.
Rsham in the game and I am violent
hidden moth
hidden moth
those prob suck for sin rogue, but seeing Rdruid is like the only thing that mak...
mehj,
they are annoying bc they are the ONLY HEALER ASIDE PRES that can kite me
oh im slowed
shift
leap
dash
kekw
if i want to do anything vs them i have to commit a step
and then im forced to waddle at mach -1423u48i1u2y45i9uo21u49802134u2310
at the enemy caster/ mage
spring bough
spring bough
grats
cyan shore
Grats!
gleaming sentinel
finally pulling my beloved outlaw out of the gutter
hidden moth
finally pulling my beloved outlaw out of the gutter
huge
cyan shore
I switched back to assassin from outlaw to push from 1850 on. And well the matches I was in, 1-6 1-6 and 1-6 😂 I swear I was cc for 95% for all of those. Poly, cyclone rooted over and over lmao. Fun times
dark kernel
What are you running for your third pvp talent? No DFa?
spring bough
turn the tables
spring bough
this with fate for blitz and trick for solo is a wicked build
gleaming sentinel
Keep it rolling Chad
stoic spruce
I'm excited for midnight
spring bough
I'm excited for midnight
what are we even getting
stoic spruce
There will be
pale storm
Pray for 2v2 glad 🙏🏽
stoic spruce
inc double hero talents
I'm convinced the new tiersets will make it into the hero trees to make the transition to lvl 90 feel seamless
spring bough
imagine if they just do fate +trick and so on lol
stoic spruce
Wdym
spring bough
like have both hero trees at the same time
spring bough
at some point they gotta redo talents
stoic spruce
Yeah
spring bough
they usually do every few xpacks right
stoic spruce
Well
This is only the second expac with the new trees
So who knows if they'll redo them every expac
Not redo
But add stuff
New toys
Etc
With the old talent system, it was much easier
I just want them to rework uhuh and I'll be happy
It's one talent
Come on blizz be cool
vocal surge
Honestly
I think if they were to redo talents, they'd make it simpler for building
then give us certain expensive nodes that'll change ability interactions
ie HO + Audacity or KIR
whereas simple nodes could be something like Heavy Hitter
stoic spruce
Ion did say when the trees were announced in DF, that they were aware they were gonna have to redo them at some point. They're focused on the now because they don't care how good something will be in the future, they just want it good in the present moment.
So its not really a matter of if, but moreso a when and how.
But in terms of outlaw into midnight
Since we all play outlaw
We know there were miniscule amount of changes going into tww
Which, quite frankly, never happens.
It's legitimately the first time that's ever happened to rogue
Idk about the other classes so I won't speak on their behalf
dark kernel
I think roll the bones is super cool, but super clunky. I feel like there's a massive open ability for Blizzard to make it a passive. But generate dice based off finishers used
So it eliminates the fishing game and just using it on CD
stoic spruce
You didn't fish with rtb since bfa
dark kernel
You get what I mean. But right now the meta is just to reroll every CD unless you get a good roll over 2 dice
stoic spruce
That's just tier set shenanigans
I do think
That
Cto should be applied to bte
And the dispatch from crackshot gets taken off
That way
You can add something to replace gsw and make ho and kir capstones more equal in power
GSW really just doesn't belong anymore
spring bough
i think im gonna level a void lock
wet crown
I miss blunderbus for outlaw if anything.
I just remember vanishing with the autocrit from stealth lego and basically one shotting people with the shotgun buffed by greenskins.
exotic dove
Grats and it was a 6-0 that got you Legend too
hidden moth
ysir
outer sky
there new rogue tuning?
exotic dove
Not that I have seen really just redesing of KS for outlaw and assa getting an 8% buff to all damage and then the following week a nerf to crimson tempest but a buff to every single other thing Assa has there is notes on it somewhere
for next patch
Sub pretty much the same
no nerfs or buffs I saw for Sub
but that was a week or so ago
outer sky
anyone link the notes?
exotic dove
outer sky
CT is big damage
exotic dove
It was pinned in assa rogue section of discord
outer sky
so all of these buffs are on top of the flat 8% buff?
exotic dove
yeah
outer sky
oh thats really good
exotic dove
From what I read yes this is in addition to the 8% all damage buff the week before these
exotic dove
Also all these go through to pvp they didnt stop it
outer sky
insanely good
exotic dove
Nothing is set in stone though its still ptr things can change but it has a decent chance it will go through
exotic dove
insanely good
Ret had big buffs in those same notes as well though and Pres from what Iam hearing is looking to be in a good spot as well
I dont really have the link though
broken otter
Eating your words now aren't ya?
Oh, man, I was talking about me never getting Legend.
Big congratulations, though!
hidden moth
this is old though
broken otter
Haha
I just feel terrible there was this whole bad blood I was unaware of this whole time XD
I said it originally, cause I was talking about the Legend reward, but I don't even queue for RSS so I would never get the reward anyways.
exotic dove
this is old though
I know its still in 11.2 and Zicore was not aware of it
hidden moth
I just feel terrible there was this whole bad blood I was unaware of this whole ...
ah my fault ❤️
hidden moth
dropped to 2150 or some shit and now im back to playable mmr
ppoggies
do i even get strat this season XD
19/25 but 100 cr short of 2400 bc of a loss streak
cyan shore
why doesnt the match end in blitz if players leave? we had 2 quit 3 min into match and i lost 60 some rating
spring bough
guys demo lock is mad fun
cyan shore
just in general or in pvp
dark stump
don't forget to put ur pets on attack
3 game in a row was wondering why my damage was trash till i see i set them in rest
grave basin
holy shhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttttttt
digging trash for days
broken otter
I just got this like 2 days ago
and I was soo excited
Then I realized I can't make any xmogs I like with the trench coat
Every pair of pants of have is off-color just the tiniest bit from it to irk me
hidden moth
100000000
broken otter
Also gratz
hidden moth
@grave basin
spring bough
just in general or in pvp
in general their tier sets look awesome too
hidden moth
aff>all other locks but
thats just me
demo has way tooo many hard casts for pvp on it to be fun
dark stump
aff>all other locks but
aff is fun cause of the feeling of seeing ur enemy dying without being able to do anything
while los
grave basin
<@1057468068864999444>
It's the legend himself
grave basin
Every pair of pants of have is off-color just the tiniest bit from it to irk me
Luckily there's a copy of the black tuxedo pants in old school scholo
For mail wearers
broken otter
For mail wearers
But am Rogue :(
broken otter
hahaha
grave basin
I need to farm the black pants later
coarse monolith
Yesterday, I Successfully achieved Gladiator status by playing only Outlaw from 0 points
coarse monolith
Yesterday, I Successfully achieved Gladiator status by playing only Outlaw from ...
coarse monolith
This was a very tough challenge for me, with an arcane mage and an evoker or rdru.
hidden moth
giga chad
dark stump
why sometime the enemy become immune to my cc?
gusty hedge
why sometime the enemy become immune to my cc?
Dr or skill/precog causing immune to cc
dark kernel
This was a very tough challenge for me, with an arcane mage and an evoker or rdr...
I'm surprised you even found an arcane mage to play with you
That must have been the only other guy saying, "man I REALLY just want to play arcane" meeting the dude who really wanted to play outlaw
gleaming sentinel
outlaw fun af to play with as a caster
dark kernel
outlaw fun af to play with as a caster
I'm just joking, because the only people with works with is arcane or balance druid, but both have way better comps
gleaming sentinel
i bet you can prob do dev evoker or destro / aff and maybe ele too
whenever im in a shuffle with a dev, i just send tricks on cd
and they melt everyone
hard compass
What’s the strat against wizard lobbies who actually peel your cd’s? I’ve hit a wall at 2.2 and struggling to progress further
I can’t unpick the puzzle, by the time I connect on them they’re either damage immune
dark kernel
What’s the strat against wizard lobbies who actually peel your cd’s? I’ve hit a ...
As sub? Its legit pure suffering and you are pretty much waiting for your goes
I think the legit only answer is you need your healer/caster to get the CC on the enemy healer so you can finally stun the kill target, use bomb, or even cloak to make sure your damage connects when it's for sure lethal
The games are long and stressful
hard compass
Yeah sub sorry
Okay sounds like I need to just keep going
I probably need to stall out defensive use a bit too
I feel like I’m on a clock till all defensives are down and their next go I’m just dead
By and large healers know how to position now too to devalue my cc
dark kernel
By and large healers know how to position now too to devalue my cc
Yeah I felt the exact same way. The problem is that this is the point where you gotta rely on your team unfortunately
You can't just self kidney the healer, send to on DPS, and blind the healer and kill
Also while it's not the greatest, it's probably a lobby to run double vanish if you aren't
Less kill threat, but you can drag games.
pastel burrow
just came out of a shadow priest/aff/demo lobby as sub and I felt like I was in d-day
you can't make me go back in
hard compass
Appreciate you dude, I known I could have elite on other classes or assa but I’m stubborn and want to get sub down first 😂
dark kernel
Appreciate you dude, I known I could have elite on other classes or assa but I’m...
I'm the same way on outlaw so no worries
hard compass
Also while it's not the greatest, it's probably a lobby to run double vanish if ...
A nice tip, I’ll try make the change back
Im traumatised by outlaw, I couldn’t figure out the rotation for m+ in bfa and haven’t played it since
I analysed logs and everything and just couldn’t make it click
gleaming sentinel
teach me
grave basin
trille is playing outlaw lol
gleaming sentinel
First thing he says when I tune in: “trying to do dmg but it’s not there”
gleaming sentinel
Not sure if he’s playing sting like a bee but man no stun killing sprees make me sad
grave basin
watching him play outlaw is carthartic
dark kernel
Thank God. I've been wanting to see high rates outlaw but nobody is playing.
gleaming sentinel
I’d gift 20 subs for a vod of dazed pushing shuffle
dark kernel
I’d gift 20 subs for a vod of dazed pushing shuffle
Actually real.
I can't watch trill. I can't watch people complain that much
Yeah Outlaw sucks, but if you physically cannot stop yourself from doing nothing but complaining about how bad it is then just don't play
Making poverty wages from a stream isn't worth it
grave basin
I can't watch trill. I can't watch people complain that much
you mean trille
trill is also another pvper ex liquid guild
potent pivot
trill is also another pvper ex liquid guild
i think trill is still in liquid
potent pivot
grave basin
<:poggies:585592556650233867>
spring bough
Lucky MF. Someone traded me deathcharger last night lol
grave basin
think i ran that place 20-30 times back to back
spring bough
I gotta get some more ICC in
tawdry lodge
How good is gloomblade compared to backstab + weapon master
spring bough
My demo lock closing in on 80 and solo shuffle
gleaming sentinel
thats what i got my legend on this season, chill spec
wintry dew
Lucky MF. Someone traded me deathcharger last night lol
Was your character named Arés or something
spring bough
Was your character named Arés or something
Voidylock
hard compass
do hpal get freedom
cus im going 2-4 into an evo and fdk on tol viron without getting a single bof from 2 hpals
hidden moth
do i add pvp ilvl to this lmfao
grave basin
do i add pvp ilvl to this lmfao
You could if you want the stats
hidden moth
its already 684 lmfao
grave basin
True actually
grave basin
Sp or frost mage for caster main next season
hidden moth
dw she hit 1800 on her disc priest earlier this season i make her earn it
hidden moth
Sp or frost mage for caster main next season
sp
psycic link
got buffed
40% single target dam is now aoe
atop aoe cap for spriest is 16
not 8
grave basin
Funnel go brr
grave basin
30 second thingy
hidden moth
crash crash 16 vamp touches and pains out into st rotation on prio target goes brrrt
hidden moth
30 second thingy
20
grave basin
The one that summons the void circle
hidden moth
applys vt and pain to 8 targets in the aoe of it, but 2x charges means u can just burn 2 at the start of pull
hidden moth
The one that summons the void circle
the void ball that goes into the air and falls down
like a mortar
hidden moth
It got lowered from 45
up from 35 actually
hidden moth
its been a 30 second cd
grave basin
It's 45 on live
grave basin
uck me
dense thorn
anyone using grid2 and know why the hell it wont turn on for arena pvp?
hidden moth
dunno what it is
dense thorn
frame addon
never used it but ui i have uses it and i cba messing with it but it wont show in pvp lol
hidden moth
@grave basin
this one applys vt and pain to 8 tar on a 20 sec cd
next season they get 2x charges
grave basin
ye
i played my sp first week into the season and got 1950 and just abandoned it
after getting multiple warr/dk lobbies in a row
grave basin
next season they get 2x charges
nice nice
theyre removing the instant vamp touch though
but i guess 2x shadow crash makes up
btw, for anyone that doesnt know
this website exists
kinda cool
tawdry lodge
WEEB
stoic spruce
I miss Take Your Cut
stoic spruce
It is actually
dark kernel
im doing my part
gleaming sentinel
Getting back above 2200 was my gladiator.
waxen meteor
Does next season still use the Vicious Bloodstone
potent pivot
Does next season still use the Vicious Bloodstone
it should ye
waxen meteor
it should ye
Thanks!
grave basin
im doing my part
dark kernel
I actually
just had the sweatiest shuffle I've ever had
at 2300
2-4 but into WW/Frost/Boomy
that shit was actual aids, everyone played hit and run the whole game
6 games deep dampening
both casters 4-2, expected
limber delta
What is considered average mmr
dark kernel
i Mean statistically? right now probably like 1600ish?
in shuffle
1500 in everything else
limber delta
In 2s
gleaming sentinel
You start at like 2100 mmr in shuffle
limber delta
I just hit 1715 in 2s trying for 1800
dark kernel
you're like...mathematically probably around the 40%?
limber delta
Top 40%?
If you could give advice on how to get better and climb faster where would you start
dark kernel
yeah, 1800 or higher is about 30%
uhh, well for staters you are playing with a healer right?
midnight siren
how do i do more damage in blitz? i can only get a healer to 10-20% in a stun before they just full heal and then i get called bad
dark kernel
Disc
Firstly, highly recommend you only play with healers, no mage
and 1715 to 1800 is not bad, there's very little skill difference. what you ideally want to be able to do is just keep up the damage pressure appropriately
in 2s, you're going to be hitting both targets a lot, and it's just a matter of time burning all their defenses
hidden moth
how do i do more damage in blitz? i can only get a healer to 10-20% in a stun be...
Good luck soloing a healer who doesn’t have decent amount of flag stacks
In bgb there is no dampening and the idea is that it’s 8v8 so the healer should be able to keep themselves along with 3 other dps alive
So u gotta get through his devensives trinkets and all his big heals/saves by yourself
@potent pivot dh 3v3 comps what do they usually run
grave basin
mvq live right now
potent pivot
<@629463378250956810> dh 3v3 comps what do they usually run
did you mean dh, or dk?
and tbh i'm not super caught up on s2 meta rn
hidden moth
did you mean dh, or dk?
Dh, and all G
coarse monolith
This was a very tough challenge for me, with an arcane mage and an evoker or rdr...
Sub and assa are too easy specs for me. That's why I'm losing my motivation for the challenge. I've already achieved too many gladiators with sub and assa. Right now, my alt is over 2500cr without even playing a few games.
dark moon
Sub and assa are too easy specs for me. That's why I'm losing my motivation for ...
I can't seem to do well as sub in shuffle, as everybody is on stun dr all the time and rip my burst windows :/ guessing it's a "me" problem, but still.
coarse monolith
I can't seem to do well as sub in shuffle, as everybody is on stun dr all the ti...
It's not just a sub-problem. All rog players are hindered by stun play. However, subs still have a strong burst, so they are relatively easy compared to outlaws. Of course, assa is the easiest, of course. Ultimately, whether it's solo shuffle or arena, performance and difficulty are determined by strong dps
dark kernel
It's not just a sub-problem. All rog players are hindered by stun play. However,...
You are a madman. As a person trying to push my first ever 2400 as outlaw this is hard
acoustic junco
I am baffled to why /cast Shadowmeld /cast !Stealth in a macro causes stealth to cancel
jaunty osprey
#showtooltip Shadowmeld
/stopattack
/cast !Shadowmeld
/cast [nocombat] !Stealth
Is what I use
I spam the keybind and it doesn’t make stealth cancel
Singular Focus hero talent does though
hidden moth
Singular Focus hero talent does though
Gonna be finished with the world soul saga and be in expansion 2/3 of the saga after it before they fix this istg
outer sky
I wonder if its worth it to just afk out of a lobby if you know you're going to 0-6 it
To keep your mmr
outer sky
I think it might be
hidden moth
I keep my mmr and one 3-3 with a 150 gap of mmr and cr means I’m gonna go up like 70 rating for just 3-3
hidden moth
your MMR doesn't suffer from afking out?
Mmr doesnt cr does lmfaooo
pastel burrow
thats kinda crazy
outer sky
I just 0-6d a lobby that I knew the second I loaded into it that id 0-6. Was arcane mage, devoker, demo lock, pres, hpal
Like why bother
hidden moth
So aside from the “u can’t play for x time” there isn’t really a punishment
/afk and go next
outer sky
Yeah that might be the move tbh
jaunty osprey
I wonder if its worth it to just afk out of a lobby if you know you're going to ...
When you leave after you lose, the losses still count
so be careful for that part
So you lose MMR
but
If you do it in starting room, you’re chilling
outer sky
Yeah thats when id do it
jaunty osprey
Ya, it can def be worth but
You have to make sure you at least go 3-3 or win the next lobbies
hollow carbon
Unforeseen things in your favor could happen tho 😅
jaunty osprey
NAH, JUST WIN!!
dark kernel
I'ma be real I had games yesterday where I couldn't touch people
Think me and a WW monk averaged 200K DPS in a shuffle
Into boomy frost mage
gleaming sentinel
Would it be ideal to just go healer in that scenario?
dark kernel
I figured out the strat just too late.
I played SUPER bitch and hugged pillar until dampening. The WW would do the same but he would Insta trinket port any stun I did. If I went the mage/druid, they and the healer would just literally kite back and snare/MC me
Eventually I and the other DPS managed to kill the WW in damp
Could have been a 4-2 or even 3-3 if I figured it out earlier
I will be honest I've never had a game where people played that afraid though
Neither caster or healer was helping CC the other. They were all just dumping 100% CC into the melee
spring bough
I just 0-6d a lobby that I knew the second I loaded into it that id 0-6. Was arc...
Sounds like hell 😭
spring bough
hidden moth
Lmfaoooo
spring bough
Single button assist in BGB getting elite……
dark kernel
Lemme guess warrior?
Affliction warlock
The most damning thing is he's only played the game for 2 months
I'm not going to shit on anyone's preferred method of having fun. But you legitimately do not need to be good at this game to hit 2,400 in BGB
spring bough
The most damning thing is he's only played the game for 2 months
What? Lol
dark kernel
What? Lol
If you read that thread, the OP said that he is only been playing wow for 2 months
It's a comment inside of it though
jolly sierra
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/s/thz5pKlKEY
brb guys
dense thorn
How hard is it for someone who has only got 2.4k once (in shadowlands s1 so lots of pve players for weapon etc) and then only pushed to 1.8-2k randomly in solo or 2s etc can actually just go to 2.4K+ in one season
Like what is the actual skill gap I’m missing?
potent pivot
How hard is it for someone who has only got 2.4k once (in shadowlands s1 so lots...
it varies between seasons, but to be fully honest SL s1 was very very inflated
2.4k in SL s1 is somewhere around 2k now
if not a bit less
dark kernel
How hard is it for someone who has only got 2.4k once (in shadowlands s1 so lots...
If you play BgBlitz you're already overqualified
jolly sierra
it varies between seasons, but to be fully honest SL s1 was very very inflated
wasn't s2 the very very inflated one?
dark kernel
wasn't s2 the very very inflated one?
They both were severely inflated because pvp gear was bis in pve
jaunty osprey
Ya, cause it was a season for the PVErs
dark kernel
That was the first micro season
And Blizz unlocked conquest and "hell week" happened. A ton of guilds got fully geared and burned out and quit
If it makes you feel worse. We had less glads last season than S4 SL
dense thorn
it varies between seasons, but to be fully honest SL s1 was very very inflated
Oh yeah I know which is why I added that season in ha. I’ve not got above 1.9 ish since DF (not that I’ve played for more than a week or two at a time in PvP)
dense thorn
If you play BgBlitz you're already overqualified
lol is this super easy?
gleaming sentinel
lol is this super easy?
no, but some people get some really lucky games and their mmr sky rockets and then you just kinda go even until you hit like 2600 then its a bit more up to you to not make mistakes
dense thorn
no, but some people get some really lucky games and their mmr sky rockets and th...
i have literally no idea how BGs even work lol
hidden moth
tired of people
telling me to sit
as assa when we have mm hunters and ret pals
esp when its little cucks who have never been higher than 1800 in arenas or shuffle lmfao
formal burrow
What can I do vs a DH as sub rogue? Feels like they can do whatever they want
This is probably just a skill issue honestly
grave basin
good luck to everyone pushing for the last week
hidden moth
ight
do i just
scrap rogue and
go dh for the last 6 stratigist wins
0 rating
gotta do placements still lol
grave basin
getting to 2.4k is gonna take you the whole week
win lose win lose win lose
do you really wanna play at 1600 mmr bgb
gleaming sentinel
I feel like assa in temple is just harassing healers maybe
hidden moth
I feel like assa in temple is just harassing healers maybe
getting ran through in mid
gleaming sentinel
Stop them from keeping orbs alive when your team engages
hidden moth
bc rshams have 85% of their healing done be to themselves
KEKW
then get yelled at for not pickiong as assa
gleaming sentinel
I feel like the greased up def guy from family guy as outlaw on that map
grave basin
im just chilling farming honor for 2nd monk
gleaming sentinel
gleaming sentinel
Hopefully people return and play
gleaming sentinel
I wish I had the mind for healing but I’m just so Shit at it
grave basin
the tier set bonuses are cool
gleaming sentinel
Insta Qs sound real nice
grave basin
nah i wanna just punch things and press W
hidden moth
yeah this 8 loss streak into win lose win lsoe win lose
is ass
keep getting healers who do 0 healing or dps trolling sayign assa sit base over a fuckin ret pal
gleaming sentinel
All the homies hate ret paladins
hidden moth
they are good base sitters
grave basin
bro for your mental, just skip bgb next season
malding in shuffle is way more enjoyable atleast
grave basin
yea wrap it up and swear off bgb for s3
hidden moth
dw i got
a healer buddy
to fix my mmr
lol
ik hallowed ground is going away but didnt they add its effect to the talent tree
grave basin
that shit is infuriating
and im p sure it's just gone for good
the concecrate slow right
gleaming sentinel
that and searing glare dont need to be in the game
outer sky
the losing streak cant be stoped
Is that SS?
I just had this lobby
1-5
Ill take it
Better than I thought id do
There's no win con
So it is what it is
hidden moth
Is that SS?
bgb
mmr so low
i legit just
assa rogue vs assa rogue sub rogue
1v2 full hp on all 3 of us
killed both and caped the flag lmfao
gleaming sentinel
I just had this lobby
barf dude
dark kernel
what do you do with tons of excess conq
dark kernel
yeah tbh bloodstones are bis
hidden moth
ima make a forum post lol
dark kernel
i somehow
never got the stupid Inarius Charger from the event
and I farmed like every day
hidden moth
still got time
dark kernel
My one and only mount from the event
hidden moth
gz
dark kernel
good shit man, its the beginning
limber delta
1st season a week in
dark kernel
you can learn this game pretty fast
if you put effort in
compared to a lot of competitive games it's actually not that hard to get rating
limber delta
It’s kinda like jungling in a moba
That’s why I like it
Anticipating steps ahead of kill target
Baiting
Knowing abilities
thick dagger
is tomorrow the end of the season ?
outer sky
is tomorrow the end of the season ?
No next week
outer sky
Rsham wearing a rank 1 title goes 0-6. You know I had to be toxic
thick dagger
tech next monday then ? its always 1 day before reset right
outer sky
tech next monday then ? its always 1 day before reset right
10pm PST Monday
thick dagger
ty!
dark kernel
Rsham wearing a rank 1 title goes 0-6. You know I had to be toxic
I mean, Furious Gladiator is unironically 16 years ago
neon oyster
what's the best way for me to try hit 1800 before season ends? I'm new to rogue so I will probably struggle, and I don't have friends to do 2s or 3s with
stoic spruce
I mean, Furious Gladiator is unironically 16 years ago
And people throw them around like it means anything in 2025
stoic spruce
what's the best way for me to try hit 1800 before season ends? I'm new to rogue ...
Shuffle and pray
neon oyster
is shuffle better than blitz?
also any reccomendations on rogue pvp YouTubers for guides
gleaming sentinel
what's the best way for me to try hit 1800 before season ends? I'm new to rogue ...
Shuffle and if you just go 3-3 over and over you’ll be there super fast
neon oyster
okay sick
dark kernel
im unironically sad
2.4K is a pipe dream
THis late in season
it's legit all win trading
jaunty osprey
is this a dh
hidden moth
ysior
jaunty osprey
i like 2
analog crater
when does the new pvp season start?
hidden moth
aug 12
analog crater
Ah ok. so probably not worth it to make crafted conq gear for a fresh 80 just yet
analog crater
are they resetting honor when the new season starts?
Cause if not then ill just farm this comp stomp for a little while and stoor it away until then
hidden moth
are they resetting honor when the new season starts?
no
never do
so like
farm it
got 6 caps
analog crater
well there we go
neon oyster
does the pvp season continue into the first week of the new patch?
hidden moth
does the pvp season continue into the first week of the new patch?
no
the 5th-11th is
off week
so go do pve quests and shit in new zone for ur reshi wraps (wont be used in pvp) etc
new honor gear is avail though
so its legit just a week to replace s2 conq gear with s3 honor gear
grave basin
I remember we were all complaining about it
hidden moth
idr that
jaunty osprey
hi
input for what
@hidden moth
oh, i see
they've switched it up a few times
so it's either you can get WORLD QUEST PVP gear (ilvl 707 or something) and no honour gear
or you can get honour gear and world quest pvp gear
wet crown
I hope whoever gave ret 30s forbearance has their minecraft server deleted.
jaunty osprey
conquest gear is aug 12 for sure though
hidden moth
I hope whoever gave ret 30s forbearance has their minecraft server deleted.
theres a talent alot take
if they dont need to have normal phys bop
that makes it 20 seconds and not 30
hidden moth
conquest gear is aug 12 for sure though
ysir thx
guys go upvote this please
maybe we get blizz attention
potent pivot
<@629463378250956810> input <@339519002961248258> <@113813700237852677>
you pung the wrong trickz
hidden moth
you pung the wrong trickz
@potent pivot ❤️
potent pivot
hidden moth
pinged the right one this time
wet crown
theres a talent alot take
you know
if the class was easy but didn't have like eight different safety nets
I wouldn't even mind it.
god, I hate them.
wet crown
I forgot how much I hate them because I've been pvping on a mage, and mage kinda bullies ret.
hidden moth
Before Aug
hidden moth
Yeah shaman and pala were both designed to fill the same rolls though
Bc horde got shaman and ally got pala
Just had to make them flavorful
So shaman got like wind fury and pala got kings
jaunty osprey
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/excess-conquest-converted-to-honor/21389...
i have 15 chars on this bnet
honour capped
so idk im good
hidden moth
Full plate holy knight of glory and gigachadness vs mud hut hobo playing with sticks
jaunty osprey
also 189 bloodstones
stoic spruce
if the class was easy but didn't have like eight different safety nets
You also gotta think
hidden moth
I’d like the conq to have some other use than sitting in my currency tab till it’s time to buy and mass d/e
stoic spruce
The more popular specs/classes have to appeal to the lowest common denominator
jaunty osprey
once new season starts
hidden moth
Thought all conq went poof
jaunty osprey
yeah but
you buy the 375 random conq piece
boxes
and you dont open them until new season starts
and they turn into a grey vendor item
that's worth more than epics
hidden moth
Ah
Still would be nice to be able to get bloodstones/ patterns etc with the conq
And don’t say “ sell the grey item and use the gold from it to buy bloodstones off ah”
jaunty osprey
sell the grey item and use the gold from it to buy bloodstones off ah
stoic spruce
Real tbh
vocal surge
Aye
vocal surge
<:anime_kmsfml:1307793054593187941>
Should I get myself an EU account for S3?
and showcase Outlaw?
grave basin
what difference would it make
outlaw is even more dead next season unless it;s giga overtuned
stoic spruce
I wish outlaw would stop paying the rogue tax so heavily
I want it to be good because it does good damage
Not because of my control
I'd sacrifice anything tbh
Because like
Rogue is rogue
It's toolkit is simply insane
But then you have outlaw
That's just
Only its toolkit
So by default it's going to be good
But in the most unfun and agonizing way possible
Atp why team up with an outlaw
When assa and sub has everything outlaw has
And more
grave basin
outlaw has the survival hunter problem
stoic spruce
The only reason you'd play with an outlaw is because you know them
grave basin
where all your toolkit is basically the same across the class
so there's always one meme spec that just has a worse damage profile and fits into less comps
there's literally zero reason to play with a sv hunter when you can play bm rot or mm burst cleaves
same as outlaw having no niche
everything outlaw does, sub does better
stoic spruce
It's not even the dmg profile I'd argue
grave basin
unless you count pad with blade flurry a niche
stoic spruce
It's that it just doesn't do dmg
And then outlaw will pop-off next season
And then everyone will get gear
And its dmg will completely fall off
grave basin
i remember at the start of the season when we were in greens
outlaw was doing so much dam
then ig zero scaling cause what's mastery and haste is just there to enable AR
so all you do is stack verse
stoic spruce
My crits are an Unholys clawing shadows normal
Health bars don't move
It's infuriating
grave basin
next season casters will be approaching haste DR so now they can stack mastery + haste
end of expansion is always hogwarts x 10000000000
approaching nuclear levels of haste
so they need to just flat aura buff all of outlaw's kit
or it will scale off even worse than it is now
stoic spruce
Yeah
I'm not even touching outlaw pvp next season lol
It's so aids
And also
Generally
How the spec operates sucks for pvp
Flat dmg profile aside
Mandatory uptime when everyone has roots and infinite movement makes for a bad time
grave basin
well yea, they clearly didnt design for pvp in mind
which is odd cause rogue was the OG class for all things pvp design
stoic spruce
I wish it was as fun as it is in pve
grave basin
if they did, or atleast had it in consideration, they would have buffed relentless blades to make up for the downtime in pvp
not nerf it kekw
and the worst part is they nerfed it, saw the representation go down to almost zero >2.4k and refused to do anything about it
even going into the new season
stoic spruce
I'm gonna make a prediction
grave basin
but then again, there's no pvp tuning yet till the season starts so outlaw enjoyers might have some hope left
stoic spruce
Ghostly Strike will get nerfed because it's uptime will be too high
grave basin
RB wil be buffed
stoic spruce
Probably not
stoic spruce
The CD of adr and GS are reduced by 30 seconds
stoic spruce
What part is nerfed though
grave basin
the cdr obviously