pvp

[potent pivot]

i like this

i should be farming the white set

[wintry dew]

i swear that if i actually played outlaw, it would be my go to

[potent pivot]

unforch

[keen canopy]

didn't get the mage tower weapons for rogue in legion

a tragedy to be sure

[wintry dew]

ghostblades go hard

[keen canopy]

ghostblades especially

tell me about it

[dark kernel]

I hated legion so much

I have the thunderfurya

[keen canopy]

i loved legion cold take i know

[safe pelican]

Those swords are gas i fw that

[dark kernel]

And sub secret weap

[keen canopy]

legion remix SURELY gonna go hard

[wintry dew]

I'd love for these to be available again

theres no reason to gatekeep people from them

its just stupid

[keen canopy]

and hey maybe in legion remix they let me play with Curse of the Dreadblades again

[safe pelican]

Yea i dont understand the gatekeep on some items in this game , loot clout really a thing in 2025 still

[halcyon timber]

Soul reaver legacy of Kain . Looks sick

[keen canopy]

yeah the red ones especially man i would just run them with the bloodfang set and surely it would go hard

[wintry dew]

Some people still think they were THE SHIT for doing things like challenge mode, when it was not about skill really

[potent pivot]

half of them bought boosts for it

[wintry dew]

EXACTLY

[potent pivot]

💀

[wintry dew]

i rememeber people selling boosts during WoD for the weapons

i was dumb to not buy it at the time

[halcyon timber]

XD

[dark kernel]

That's still true today lmao

[halcyon timber]

Like legion tower when it came back

[keen canopy]

idk all the WoD weapons look so garbage ngl

[potent pivot]

whaaaat

the polearm and the daggers are sick

[wintry dew]

Soul eater is amazing

[keen canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/edp-i-mean-its-all-right-gif-26702511

[dark kernel]

Speaking of old shit

I think I am eligible for 2 of the wrath tabards on my old account

And never knew that

So I'ma be real sad because I don't use that account anymore

[wintry dew]

relentless/wrathful?

[wintry dew]

those were the true OG

[potent pivot]

these go hard

[dark kernel]

Not sure probably Deadly and season 6

[keen canopy]

yeah they bring back the mage tower
and then dont bring back the transmog
and like cmon man what are we even here for then
the set recolors?
they're mid
the druid form?
I don't play druid
the book mount?
yeah it is pretty fire i guess but i would still rather have ghostblades

[wintry dew]

Druid form was honestly the best thing they cooked

AND

The warlock set

[keen canopy]

yeah true but i dont play that class

[potent pivot]

i like the book mount

eventually i will farm it out

[safe pelican]

Those are hard but lemme guess you can’t get them anymore

[potent pivot]

nope

[safe pelican]

The book mount is cool

[keen canopy]

yeah but it just dont go as hard as other weapons you know
so in conclusion
I mean it's alright

[potent pivot]

i don't think any weapons are better

[keen canopy]

ghostblades

[potent pivot]

when it comes to daggers

[keen canopy]

ghostblades

[wintry dew]

I'd give 2 of the ghostblades skins for soul eater

[potent pivot]

thats 1 weapon

[wintry dew]

the animation on the soul eater is amazing

[keen canopy]

i also really like Iceshear or whatever the sub mage tower weapon was called pretty sure it's Iceshear though

[potent pivot]

just because ghostblades are dope does not invalidate the dopeness of soul eaters

[wintry dew]

yep!

[keen canopy]

this artifact appearance for sub also goes hard

i would use it with the red fanged elite set
if i had it
insert timmy turner dad gif

the set i mean

[potent pivot]

the best part of all the wod cm weapons

is that they all have some type of motion tied into them

like sick effects

they don't make anything as cool these days

[keen canopy]

yeah maybe not

especially weapon wise

recent weapons kinda garbage

[wintry dew]

I'm still of the opinion that this raid tier and the tier sets have NOTHING IN COMMON

Like, wtf

[potent pivot]

after wod/legion they kinda just started making quantity over quality i feel

like in legion you only ever used artifact weapons so they were able to go all in on making them sick

because you only used those weapons for the entire expansion

i would almost prefer going back to something like that ngl

compared to 5 new weapon skins every season

[keen canopy]

nah i can see some of em

[wintry dew]

i actually didnt mind legion weapon. 1 weapon for the whole expansion, various skins, making it stronger

[keen canopy]

the rogue set is like a gambler at the gallagio
the warrior set is an enforcer, a bouncer
all the other sets though
ok maybe

artifact weapons were peak but idk if they should really do em again

like if it was the same weapons maybe but
i wouldn't really want an assassination artifact weapon that ISN'T The Kingslayers

or a ret weapon that isn't Ashbringer

like if they do 1 weapon for the whole expansion making it stronger
with cosmetic weapon drops like Taeshalach
it would be peak for sure

but also that weapon has to be REALLY important and cool
and outside of the artifact weapons that we already had
it would be difficult for them to do it again

[wintry dew]

you're probably right

they peaked in legion

[keen canopy]

like if i'm just making John's Broken Bottle stronger over the expansion it's sort of whatever right?
but if i'm making The Kingslayers stronger over time
oh yeah, this is peak

and if they did bring back the OG artifact weapons i would be fine with it but also how many other people wouldn't be

[wintry dew]

Legion was probably the only expansion where i felt like i was actually a rogue

Lorewise

Classhalls WERE PEAK

[keen canopy]

yeah legion was so peak

dude the quest where you had to go into the cities of the other faction to assassinate people

man if you're running that as sin rogue?
it's the zenith of class fantasy

it doesn't get any better

[wintry dew]

THE RPG IN MY RPG GAME RIGHT

[keen canopy]

yeah i can only hope legion remix does it justice

which honestly for me will probably be 90% done if they let me use Curse of The Dreadblades again

[wanton breach]

I wish I had the SL S1 enchant for these

[verbal field]

ooooohhhh sexyy daaagguurz

[potent pivot]

can you even put an illusion on them

i thought you couldn't

but idk i don't have them

[wintry dew]

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-me-too-same-same-david-rose-dan-levy-gif-19295178

[keen canopy]

idk why they don't let you illusion some weapons

kinda bs

like what this weapon is already glowing so i cant put another glow on it?

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-why-not-you-stupid-bastard-gif-23978200

[wintry dew]

some weapons you can cheese it

like some artifacts

[keen canopy]

yeah i'm aware

haven't found a combination that looks good though

with rogue artifacts anyway

[potent pivot]

i think too many effects can mess with some peoples frames

which is why they had to tone down glorious tyranny back in the day i think

[wintry dew]

Fuck them for that

with respect ofc

that one was PEAK illusion

[keen canopy]

and also the darkmoon fair hasnt had an update i swear in forever

[wintry dew]

i mean, we had one "recently"

they added the giant weelthing

[keen canopy]

like add another island at this point
they could literally do anything because it's the darkmoon fair reality is barely even a concern there

but oh boy
another big wheel
another rare mob
i still actually dont have the transmog from death metal knight

point being is they should add something cool there

more mounts more pets more mog

it's not like they have to worry about lore implications at the fair

all this to say i want a weapon with a big eye on it that goes with the Ny'Alotha sets because honestly the ones from Ny'Alotha are garbage

[dark kernel]

This mog is cool and I have it, but these wep colors are REALLY hard to match with anything outside of Legion geae

It's a shame

It's just a shade off lots of other stuff.

[dark kernel]

Rip man

[potent pivot]

wow is dying

[dark kernel]

Its probably not from WoW

Liquid had an insanely lucrative Honda sponsor and it was clear Honda got the bad end of the deal. When that one Valorant player posted some dumb shit it gave Honda an out of their contractual clause.

So liquid probably bleeding some money had to trim down and of course WoW got hit.

[stoic spruce]

MES NOOOOO

[dark kernel]

Notice Trill isn't included, because he's still on their raid team, so it's ONLY the arena team

[potent pivot]

well duh

i don't think that changes the fact that everything wow/wow related has been on a downward trend

[stoic spruce]

Crazy

I blame crackshot

It's the same time it all started happening

I have an idea

WoW needs something crazyyyyyyyy

[halcyon timber]

[potent pivot]

SoD and classic has pulled more viewership than the main game for the past like, few years

[keen canopy]

legion 2

[potent pivot]

dozens of wow full time streamers have quit/gotten other jobs

the only retail event that pulls half decent viewership is rwf

[keen canopy]

and expansion launches i guess

but even then blizzard screwed that up with the early access

tww expansion launch on twitch had super low viewership

[potent pivot]

yeah there's just nothing to do on launches really

besides variety streamers doing storymode

[dark kernel]

It doesn't help that M+ is currently starting to suffer the same issue as arena

Become its own little ball of private players

Raids are dying because M+ is repeatable content

And M+ twitch content is legit worse than watching paint dry

[stoic spruce]

What does classic have that retail doesnt

[keen canopy]

in conclusion
make pvp the main game
this is the solution

[keen canopy]

never has a more real statement been said

[stoic spruce]

Big

[dark kernel]

This is how it used to be. Due to the fact running dungeons and raids was time gated pvp was the only repeatable content

So you either sat around crafting, dueling, or battlegrounds

And it's why a lot of people did pvp even casually

Other games just took that player base away from WoW , or offered a better ladder

Mainly LoL

[keen canopy]

and how have they made pvp rewards so bad

[stoic spruce]

1800 for ANOTHER teal recolor

They don't even randomize the colors anymore

Legit the same color pallettes

[keen canopy]

and the fact pvp is dead only makes it more dead

a wise man once said WoW pvp is "the same 300 people on 20 characters"

which is so true

and what ends up happening is a new player is like
"hmm today i will pvp"
they queue random bgs to start out
crushed by a premade
they're like "ok ill just run some arena"
they fight people like us
and they just die
they dont even know what a trinket is

[stoic spruce]

Thats why I don't talk shit to players

They could be new or whatever

I'd think about my brother playing and he has a wife and kid

[keen canopy]

every pvp bonus week i try to go into random bgs and have these guys learn a thing or two

[stoic spruce]

Yknow

[keen canopy]

but it's just too much for them i guess

[stoic spruce]

Retail isn't fun until you get to max level

Classic and SoD, the leveling is part of the content

[keen canopy]

eh idk if i would agree we only say that because we've kind of seen everything before

[stoic spruce]

Wdym

[keen canopy]

like a new player would enjoy leveling in retail because they havent seen every zone you can level in

if i had leveled in SoD or classic as much as i have in retail, i'd probably say the same thing where the fun starts at max level

not to say i completely disagree with you

because in SoD or classic you meet people while leveling

retail not so much

[stoic spruce]

Well outside of retail, you feel progression when leveling

Is why I say that

I do at least

[keen canopy]

idk i feel progression when leveling in retail

like when you get deathmark leveling as sin rogue

[dark kernel]

I am that brother. I sacrifice sleep every night to play 1 single solo shuffle after my 6 month old goes to bed.

[potent pivot]

Retail is 100% an end game focused game

[dark kernel]

Pushing rating is insanely hard

[potent pivot]

Queue simulator

Sure there’s casuals that just enjoy leveling different classes or farming mogs/achievements

But a majority of the game could be played from a launcher rather than sitting in the game waiting for a queue

[keen canopy]

true honestly

especially pvp

[potent pivot]

M+ and raid too

Unless you join an active guild

[keen canopy]

yeah probably but i stopped seriously doing those a long time ago

only M+ when my friends ask me to

[stoic spruce]

I'm glad they're doing these new things like the remixes and stuff

[keen canopy]

yeah hopefully legion remix gets people to play

[stoic spruce]

Leveling in remix is hella fun

[keen canopy]

but idk if remix will REALLY do legion justice

hopefully it does

[stoic spruce]

Because theres real actual progression

Nah it wont

Shoes too big

Feet too small

[keen canopy]

maybe so

[stoic spruce]

Also

[keen canopy]

i just want to use Curse of The Dreadblades again

[stoic spruce]

Some specs don't have their respective artifact abilities anymore

Exactly

Which we probably won't

But I'm just speculating

[keen canopy]

yeah if they have artifacts with no artifact stuff
it'll be kinda fried

just wouldnt be legion

[stoic spruce]

Yeah

And I say that because mop had 0 class/spec changes

[keen canopy]

but they might just do that because evokers exist yeah

[stoic spruce]

But then again, mop wasn't like legion with class specific stuff

[keen canopy]

i mean hey maybe they give evokers artifacts and stuff like that and give every class their artifacts with all that good stufff

but probably not yeah

[stoic spruce]

And

What about the classes that still have them?

This is a very weird situation

[keen canopy]

idk not the weirdest ever

monks still have Weapons of Order

but you can also go to Shadowlands content

and have that Weapons of Order

same with rogue and bone spike even though bone spike is different now

[stoic spruce]

Nah this is weirder.

Also

It's its own thing

So

There's no telling what direction they could go

I do know tww will be dead to me

[keen canopy]

idk i'll still be pvping

and maybe doing delves on my DK to get that mythic set transmog because i havent gotten that damn cloak yet never lucky

[stoic spruce]

If I get dreadblades back, world content would be more fun

Than retail pvp

[languid ravine]

I ve played 4 blitz today there were all fun, but then I thought lets queue 4 more and they were all shit

had us in the first half not gonna lie

[jaunty osprey]

pog 2840 mmr

way above r1 assa

[glass hazel]

soon expect you to be first place? :))

[jaunty osprey]

nah idk

i cba

pushing

queue times are too long and i play for like 2 hours a week

[sick wasp]

[stoic spruce]

With queue times being the way they are, to me it's faster to find a group in lfg than to spam solo queue games

[hybrid palm]

is lag shift the new hack on the block

[glass hazel]

? what is lag shift Oo

[gusty hedge]

i noticed some shit like this cant say forsure tho. they used to have lag switch back in the day to make people d/c

[potent pivot]

literally nothing new about it

[safe pelican]

Don’t you lie to me Mr.1stThrough15thPlace

[spring bough]

Brothers got 15 chances at that R1 title 😂

[safe pelican]

‘Just In Case’ type beat 😂

[jaunty osprey]

T_T

I REALLY HAVENT BEEN PLAYING THAT MUCH

[spring bough]

I believe in you dawg. 2 hours a week can still net you rank 1 with that ridiculous MMR

[abstract stratus]

Dethrone finneas @jaunty osprey

[jaunty osprey]

I'm on NA

[abstract stratus]

Yea I’m talking about R1 WORLD

u got it in you

[exotic dove]

He is 400 mmr higher than my Assa Rogue mmr in shuffle makes me look like a pleb lol

[abstract stratus]

My mmr fluctuates wildly between 2400-2200 so everyone makes me look like a pleb
I am bad

[exotic dove]

I wouldnt say thats bad

Thats page 2-4 on the Assa Rogue Shuffle ladder

according to check pvp

[abstract stratus]

Definitely feels bad when I go 06 in some lobbies

[exotic dove]

2200-2400 makes you basically top 60ish to top 160ish in the Assa Rogue pvp ladder for shuffle

so I say thats pretty good out of the 5451 Assa Rogues Check pvp has on the ladder from 0 rated to the Rank 1 guy

[abstract stratus]

I had great progress increasing my rating until the arms warrior buffs happened. Warrior Lobbies have been a pain for me since

[exotic dove]

Also we still have like 2 months left of the seaon or so maybe 3

so I wouldnt be too hard on yourself

[abstract stratus]

Overpower not caring about evasion is kinda rough ngl

[exotic dove]

I guess with warriors for me most of them are predictable when they stormbolt so I can just feint it with that new honor talent and take 60% less damage cause of honor talent and elusiveness

When I see they have it and the face me I feint and most of the time I get bolted

then I have a nice wall

[abstract stratus]

Idk ima just keep queuing. I have one sin rogue at like 2340 and the other is at 2250 im just gonna sit on the lower for longer i did hit 2100 on sub fairly easily never playing it in PvP before

Outlaw feels like wet garbage

[gusty hedge]

1ST Game

[main kite]

So I’m doing a challenge taking every class to 1800 in solo Shuffle. Rogue is literally my last class to do it on.

Is rogue just not great in solo shuffle or am I just the dog shit I know I am

[potent pivot]

rogue is good, but it is one of the most difficult classes in the game

the skill floor is higher than anything else imo

[main kite]

@potent pivot I’ve played it a bunch before but never in Ss

The floor is insanely high

[potent pivot]

most other classes, you can just DPS like its PVE and get 1800

[main kite]

1000%

[potent pivot]

on rogue, you kinda can't

[main kite]

That’s what I’m gathering, you’re playing around the teammates CDs as much as your own

[potent pivot]

need to have a good understanding of your talents, defensives, and utilize your CC half decent

[main kite]

Fair enough, sub damage seems a bit light outside of full burst

[potent pivot]

ye that's how sub is designed

its kinda the epitome of a burst spec

[abstract stratus]

outside of dance sub does tickle monster levels of damage

[gusty hedge]

clutched the 1v2 skirm

[main kite]

It’s really how it feels

[abstract stratus]

You should still be trying to spend combo points inbetween goes to farm dances back just don’t expect to hurt them too much lol

[main kite]

Thank you, I was trying to sus that out

[stoic spruce]

Need me an outlaw build without vanish for solo content

It's getting ✨️annoying✨️

[spring bough]

Took me like 40 or less blitz games to get to elite. If you rip winning streaks and keep that MMR up you can go on multiple losing streaks and lose 0 rating and blast like 30+ rating a win

[gleaming sentinel]

Yea I can’t handle it. I’m trying out enhance today

[stoic spruce]

Pistol Shotting the same button push as vanish isn't good enough

I want to just not even have to worry about it

[languid ravine]

428-1500 Arathi lobby, 2800 mmr with tanks cool very interesting

[glass hazel]

realized cant stand subtlety probably will suffer and climb blitz as assa then

[languid ravine]

same this shit is so boring and unplayable with shuffle pleebs

meanwhile in the same lobbies 400 rating higher I just press garrote and autowin

is there even another spec where you dont press anything for 5 seconds waiting for energy, symbols and shadowcraft procs?

zzzzzz

[stoic spruce]

Outlaw out of adr

[languid ravine]

of course my bad

cant forget about Outlaw

[languid ravine]

playing sub at 2k rating be like: okay my last go has been 40 sec there is no DRs possibly right? (everyone is immune)

[spring bough]

are u having fun as outlaw yet

[stoic spruce]

When I win

[dark kernel]

I am having fun in general

[long shore]

Stun DR falling off with 2 more seconds. Kill window in a bomb?

No sir. The resto on your team decides to press a triple DR 0.5s lasso making him fully immune.

That's fine, I'll just swap to the other DPS. The DH on your team chaos novas enemy healer and DPS for 0.5s and now the whole team is immune.

"Noob sub rogue" they say at the end of the round, no damage. Low DPS. Report the rogue for throwing. 😎

[potent pivot]

[restive hemlock]

Haven't played my rogue in a minute but is focus shadowstep bugged? Trying to step kick and it seems to just keep stepping my target

[jaunty osprey]

somehow just got a glad achievement

without finishing wins

[formal pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-quiet-be-gif-597401044830573588

[jaunty osprey]

it's just the normal glad achievement, not the season achievement though

[dark kernel]

i wonder if on that character you previously had 17 wins or something?

and just now you got 50 total, ever, over 2400?

[long shore]

GRATS! how is assas in 3v3?

according to tier list they are garbage. but we all know the truth

[jaunty osprey]

uhhhh

at R1 level, you have to play so much better than others to win

but at lower ratings, it's good!

it's very oppressive

just queued dev assa and got the #1 3s assa spot back after not queuing for 2 weeks or so

[jaunty osprey]

Yeah, last season this was my like 6th rogue

so that sounds likely

however, the conditions of getting the Glad achievement is linked to getting a seasonal achievement, but I guess spaghetti code made it give it to me upon getting 50 wins above 2400

[dark kernel]

Big impressive.

I just hit 2141 outlaw

My 1 game a night push is uhh....long

[jaunty osprey]

shuffle queues are so long, i dont blame you

doing that was outlaw is impressive!!

[dark kernel]

That and I have a 6-month-old lol

I am trying to learn and get better on a little bit of hard mode right now but it is what it is

[grave basin]

Dad gamers know the pain of not hitting the shuff queue till it's all clear

I swear I've hit queue and it pops INSTA and my kid come barging in wanting to play

😭 I want my e number to go up boy

[hollow carbon]

Worst scenario in a Shuffle round 😬

[glass hazel]

Worst one if they start crying like fell etc and you have to go check, just disturbing is fine

[proven field]

does Outlaw do burst yet; want to come back and run up some BGB

[stoic spruce]

No

[proven field]

https://tenor.com/view/stevie-gmm-stevie-wynne-levine-and-now-i-will-go-back-to-my-hole-good-day-bye-gif-15544721929878955654

[midnight siren]

how do i win blitz more? trying to kill healers doesnt seem to be working

[verbal field]

how much would you guys recommend getting a mmo mouse with like 12 extra buttons?

[stoic spruce]

100%

Everything I need is right there

You're also a lot more interesting when you enter a convo about binds

[hollow carbon]

Especially for melee it is so good and also healthy 😁

[verbal field]

just feel overwhelmed sometimes when a lots going on and you have to react quickly

[stoic spruce]

Remember kiss

Keep it simple stupid

Rotational abilities 1-4, heals for 5, etc

That's what I do

Shift 7 for bf

Or aoe in general really

I keep all my keybinds the same for every class I play

[grave basin]

Upgraded from normal mouse to 2 button mouse to 12 button and I can't praise it enough

The 4x3 rows makes arena targeting so much easier too

First 3 is arena1/2/3 target and bottom 3 is some sort of cc arena 1/2/3

Takes about a month of fumbling about to get used to it but once you are, there's no going back

[stoic spruce]

Ret/Outlaw can live for a crazy long time in 2s tbh

Considering no healer

[stoic spruce]

I went straight from being an icon clicker to MMO mouse

0-100

I felt like I could beat up king kong

[gleaming sentinel]

I did a little Prot pal outlaw and it was surprisingly gross

[dark kernel]

Prot is stealth kinda strong. A friend played druid/protpal/Sp to like 2200 already this season I. 3s

[stoic spruce]

All tanks are good rn

Which is wild to say tbh

It's been so long since they've had any pvp tuning that their power kinda just went unchecked

Hell prot warr even had pvp BUFFS

To rend and execute

[gleaming sentinel]

A good Prot pal in blitz can really be a problem on certain maps. There was a guy who went with an enhance to mine against 3 others and they won

[safe pelican]

12 button mouse or uninstall, it’s simple

Was literally playing at 1600 SS on a MacBook trackpad before i get the mouse lmao fingers were fucking working overtime and weekends

Mannnnn i finally played a random bg yesterday on my sub rogue cause i don’t have any gear for this season spent my left over honor on like a ring and a head piece … these fully geared warriors are hitting like a truck shit is hilarious , just stormbolt > dead if you don’t pre feint lol getting beat on by two arms wars cause i got their resto shaman in a cc headlock still won though

[exotic dove]

Do you guys think Blizzard will eventually just do something with MMR? Only reason I ask this is not for my personal gains cause I am still playing and seeing improvements. This is more of I am annoyed watching the activity data for the past several seasons and seeing the drop in activity that people do to afk until end of season when MMR is decently inflated to climb then. While I will keep playing regardless it is annoying to see things become stagnant because people just take advantage of not playing because the game rewards afking.

Only Season that didn't really see the same noticeable drop was DF season 1 when Shuffle came out. Which of course is easy to see why

[potent pivot]

No way to know that. They’ve let the game come this far down the drain, kinda seems like they’ll never fix anything. But who knows

[dark kernel]

I think for the time being at least Blizzard will keep artificially modifying MMR to account for player declined.

I really really hope that they recognize that over the years their pvp player base has been a lucrative selling point of the game and take at least one real shot at making large changes to see how that affects the game long term

[exotic dove]

I dont know this for sure but I doubt all of these afkers are paying for subs while they wait either. Which makes me wonder is there not a good middle ground for them to go. DF Season 1 if they think had too much mmr inflation couldnt they go half way between what we have now and what they consider extreme then? (yes I know 3s was deflated in the beginning but iirc they did buff it to have super high mmr too) Just basically tossing random thoughts and ideas to the wind lol

[exotic dove]

This is probably what they will just keep doing and the afk sessions in seasons will continue :/

[grave basin]

are you talking about 3s?

shuffle mmr feels good rn

[exotic dove]

mainly yeah but I hear the complaint for shuffle from some as well but I was mainly talking for 3s

But shuffle also has afkers in the activity tracking sites so its not just a 3s issue but it affects 3s more

[verbal field]

world of afk craft

@wanton breach spotted 👀

[grave basin]

for sure

3s is basically held up by tape and matchsticks at this point though

theyve pumped so much artificial inflation into it already, people just dont play it

[wanton breach]

👀

[safe pelican]

Lmao that lobby sounds like hell

[spring bough]

WTB more rated solo Qs

Can they just turn 3s into a random Que and make it one round a Que? Then we can get some mounts lol

[halcyon timber]

The mah titlesss dudes would be pissed so prob not. All other brackets are “memes” to them since they aren’t having their way. Arena Forums are something you read while taking a dump and that’s it.

Would be cool if they added a mount you can custom build as you climb in any of the brackets

[spring bough]

How bout they just add the glad mount to shuffle legend or blitz strategist and call it a day then 3s would be dead and everyone would be solo Qing

[halcyon timber]

Bc the zealots fight against stuff like that

[spring bough]

Fk the zealots. Solo queues are the meta now lol

[halcyon timber]

More people play bc of solo. The same jokers wanted it back in the day and bc it isn’t “exactly” how they want “it sucks”. Just nonsensical gate keeping and shit.

Play what you want, have fun, be happy, and stop being a turd in a pickle jar to others. Its not hard.

Lfg jackass factory tactics can shove it.

Same for the “remove all these talents the cult doesn’t like” same hivemind people mentality stirring the shit pot. Bless the devs who work on our world and don’t lose their cool reading bs every day.

[jaunty osprey]

In an ideal world, participation would be like DF S1

They should’ve capitalized on dragonriding customization

Make pvp mount a diff colour each season

Then slightly diff armour for glad, shuffle and blitz

[dark kernel]

This gives me a boner

[halcyon timber]

Would be sick for sure and hoped that was the motif . It may moving forward.

Big fan of skyriding / dragonriding

[potent pivot]

Do you remember that leak I posted

Idr if I tagged you

“Leak” of the coming seasonal reward changes

That we’re supposed to be getting next season

[jaunty osprey]

nooo

D:

[potent pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/226359213427916800/1368728943812673556/GqI2hVNXgAAZ2ab.png?ex=684c0969&is=684ab7e9&hm=f696f4c814893eb4237009a709ef17a2a7b779b67bc23e68e51236eaa5d83dbb&

I dug through and found it

[jaunty osprey]

Nice

[potent pivot]

Was a month or two back

[jaunty osprey]

LMAO

[potent pivot]

?

[jaunty osprey]

I hate discord, never loads properly for me

[potent pivot]

Is it not showing for you?

Ah

[jaunty osprey]

Let me check my other phone

Ok ya

[potent pivot]

It said some wild shit so pretty much everyone assumes fake

[halcyon timber]

Shitposting is always trustworthy wym

[jaunty osprey]

Big doubt for me

Big changes like that are usually for a new xpac

rather than end of xpac

[potent pivot]

Idk lately they are experimenting last season of expansions

And it’s also legit confirmed we’re getting seasonal rewards rework

I don’t believe 90% of the shit in that post

But something’s coming idk

[halcyon timber]

The roadmap says multiple system changes at different points soon so def possible for sure

[dark kernel]

4chan was right before

But damb

[indigo hill]

Anyone know where to find some betterblizzplate profiles

[dark kernel]

I'm pretty sure some are baked into it right?

[verbal field]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

[halcyon timber]

For blizz plates / blizz auras and hope it is just as good btw

[potent pivot]

there's multiple profiles preloaded into the addon

if you open the settings and look around the bottom of the window

pick one and make whatever tweaks you want

[jaunty osprey]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day

[indigo hill]

Cheers

[jaunty osprey]

Someone out there is bound to be right for one of the 1000000000 guesses

[dark kernel]

Yeah I know this. It's not common at all, but I do recall one time in the RECENT past where somebody leaked stuff on 4chan and it ended up being legit 90% accurate

So it's got me looking.

[potent pivot]

I think that was the Evoker leak? Idr

Whatever it was I remember it being a much bigger thing

[dark kernel]

I think it was, which is why this has me curious because for there to be such a precise leak on /v/ of all places makes this post way more curious

[turbid cosmos]

any1 got tips for climbing rating in BG Blitz?

it is a painful experience

[indigo hill]

Did boomie get buffed allot?

[indigo hill]

Learn how the bg's work and hope everyone else does as well.

[gusty hedge]

bruh i just logged on to wow and swapped characters, on my back up account(new account) and it logged me off says im banned... bruh wtf is going on today? i barely play that account as it is

account had no prior violations or suspensions

[potent pivot]

@jaunty osprey

Ivan had an account banned too

Lmfao

[gusty hedge]

now my wow 1 is banned too wtf

[jaunty osprey]

Wait

5 other ppl just msgd me

they got banned too

[potent pivot]

LOL I had a feeling

This is likely a major fuck up

[jaunty osprey]

My main just got banned too

wtf

[gusty hedge]

i legit pushed ss yesteday and logged on for the first time now this lmao. Today has been a shit day so far xD

[jaunty osprey]

What does your email say

Unbanned gg

[jaunty osprey]

We both got unbanned

nice

[gusty hedge]

hell yeah

i was shook

[potent pivot]

Shouldn’t have happened in the first place

But lmaoooo

Glad it got fixed fast for you guys

Maybe they’re actually going through and banning the people that have been cheating

And slipped up

[jaunty osprey]

I was actually scared

I was trying to think of who I played with

that couldve been hacking

I hope this doesn’t affect my account standing for R1 titles

[abstract stratus]

I’m wondering if their auto detection is broadening to more programs that can do what auto hotkey does and is being a lil overzealous about it

[jaunty osprey]

I use 0 programs

LMAO

This is a fresh PC

this season

Don’t even have mouse or keyboard factory programs

[gusty hedge]

Fr! crazy that they move to ban all accounts(license) under that email
it has to do something with Rated pvp. First time i decided to push 2k in months after a 1-5 shit show and i log onto a ban, heart still hurts lmao dont even wanna play shuffle no more

[abstract stratus]

Maybe it’s all the wintraders spam reporting when their games get ruined LOL

[gusty hedge]

ngl i had like 2 lobbies that def were win trading

[jaunty osprey]

Could be LMAO

i legit JUST started queuing shuffle again

[gusty hedge]

yeah something fishy going on with shuffle

[abstract stratus]

Yea they probably felt violated when you walked them and got all their buddies to report lmao

[potent pivot]

you don't have any keyboard/mouse software?

even if you don't use it for "malicious" purposes maybe they wrongfully detected something from it

[abstract stratus]

Synapse, Icue, all them can do some goofy stuff if you try hard enough so I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to combat that

[jaunty osprey]

nope, didnt bother installing

I just use a deathadder anyway

doesnt have many buttons

[potent pivot]

Well then I dunno

My first thought when you DMed me was that maybe someone you played with kick botted or something

[jaunty osprey]

I WAS LEGIT SCARED

[potent pivot]

Cuz ik you’re legit

I woulda been too

[jaunty osprey]

False bans happen so often that don’t get lifted

[potent pivot]

Yep

This one seemed too widespread though

Like off the rip

[jaunty osprey]

Know what’s crazy

not a single forum or reddit post

about this

[potent pivot]

Yeah I looked

Had to have been way more people than just what we know

[jaunty osprey]

Ya, I only know 5 other ppl and that’s it

[potent pivot]

I know of a handful ye

[abstract stratus]

Maybe it has to do with a certain time frame people where queuing during

[jaunty osprey]

Was it on PvPers

Only*

[potent pivot]

That’s the only people I’ve heard from

[abstract stratus]

Did everyone get the email at the exact same time or was it spaced out?

[midnight siren]

any strats for blitz or is it just a coin flip?

[potent pivot]

A bit of both afaik

Maybe has something to do with Cloudflare being down today

A lot of shit has been fucking up on the internet for a fuckload of companies

[gusty hedge]

just got Spotify to work again, and now i can finish shopping for cologne on Macy's 😂

[safe pelican]

Win, that is the strategy

Someone come gear my sub rogue for me i don’t have time for this shit every season

[midnight siren]

ok its luck, ill just do more til i gain elo

[safe pelican]

It’s not luck, but either way with repetition in anything you’ll eventually get better. Gotta use your brain in blitz as rogue it’s not like arena , correlate with your team starting out try to figure out where a rogue is most effective on each map start there then develop strategy.

[midnight siren]

ive just had several cap the flag where its 9 on defense the entire game or our FC is several times slower than theirs. had one druid go from our base to theirs, die, rez do it again before our priests made it 1/4 the way. do i go peel or try to slow?
ive tried going healers but they just use CDs til they link up with help. im not experienced enough to tell if its my team or i missed an opportunity

[abstract stratus]

@jaunty osprey have you kept using authority of the depths enchant for any reason or is it just a “because you can” thing. do you notice any value in the arenas?

[jaunty osprey]

Depths does more damage

Radiant Power has a low proc rate, and can break CC

If you tab targets a lot more, you see a lower value with Depths

[abstract stratus]

I used depths all last season and swapped this season, I was debating going back but wasn’t sure if it was worth

[jaunty osprey]

You can’t go wrong with either

It’s not something you would notice yourself tbh

[abstract stratus]

Is the extra mastery dropping 4 set worth ?

[safe pelican]

I’m ngl to you , CTF is either win or lost in the waiting room , everytime for me. Priority there should be playing to the strengths and weaknesses or your FC match up vs theirs, you should be killing the EFC though effectively assuming you’re playing assa. And level with the team in chat pre game. A lot of people don’t say shit no communication in the match until you lose at the end then everyone wants to cry and blame someone they saw performing badly. Be the difference help the team make a plan or listen to who is making the plan

[potent pivot]

na

but its another thing you wouldn't notice

[midnight siren]

is sin the better killer? ive been sub this season just been a worse climb. i do try to ask for a plan although my last game was a loss since nobody defended points and one guy specifically avoided helping

[abstract stratus]

Sub has to play around cds you will not kill people without dance and symbols at the very least

[jaunty osprey]

Same thing, no difference

[midnight siren]

ill give sin a try see if that works better since low mmr has 0 focus

[stoic spruce]

Thought two of my goats got banned

Was quite a read

The indomitable human spirit rises above once again

[jaunty osprey]

LOL

I was paniced

[lone goblet]

think the DISC belt with vers proc might be good?

[stoic spruce]

What ilvl does it go to?

I know nothing about the belt

[potent pivot]

i think they just nerfed it or something right?

if the belt has no secondary stats i highly doubt we will use it for pvp

[lone goblet]

guess Ill wait for it to go live and check the aura on wowhead to see if there is a pvp modifier

On ptr right now it says pvp modifier: 1, which means no nerf in pvp I think.

[potent pivot]

correct

does the belt have base seondary stats?

[lone goblet]

no

[potent pivot]

we most likely won't end up using it

maybe after 5 weeks when its max ilvl

even at 10ilvl above the regular max ilvl the extra agi won't outweigh having the secondary stats on a regular belt

if the dmg procs aren't nerfed to shit maybe one of them will be ok

[safe pelican]

Sin isn’t better kill, but sin CAN team fight situationally where as outlaw and sub shouldn’t really team fight at all there’s almost ALWAYS something better you can do or somewhere better you can be. Thought you were playing sin cause your name is pink but Poetae gave you the run down on sub, play around cds , dance , symbols. Go watch Sfury on twitch if you wanna get better at sub blitz. Also keep in mind that at low elo blitz it’s mostly alt accounts and people fucking around so you will lose a lot of games due to lack of care

[wintry dew]

Red isn't pink!

Smh

@wanton breach Is pink

[verbal field]

I consider myself juicy cherry red

[wanton breach]

Hi, I'm pink

[stoic spruce]

Hi pink, I'm popo

[dark kernel]

I am rogue. I am pvp

I like things that smell

sniff

[spring bough]

Poopoo

[spring bough]

How’s the 2s elite push goin

[dark kernel]

Why would you choose 2s or all brackets

That sounds awfully painful

[stoic spruce]

because its better and faster than shuffle

[stoic spruce]

its my work week

[dark kernel]

I think I would just go mentally numb only playing war/druid and hunt/druid 200 games with the occasional warlock or priest

[tight hill]

how do ppl bind there Symbols/Dance/Blades/Flag? Struggling to find something that flows nice when bursting

[fluid trench]

I do num6 3 5 alt-T in that order but my keybinds are criminally weird

[severe solstice]

Hi guys, im wondering if someone could help me fit Flag in burst opener to play around stun dr. I open with blades, cheap, dance+sd+tea, evis, shadowstrike, sec tech, cheap, evis, cheap, evis. Should I just pop it with blades? Before cheap? Thank you

[tight hill]

heh if it works. considering buying an mmo mouse but sub is the first spec that has made me want one lol

[tight hill]

anytime before evis is fine

not sure if there's something that would make it more optimal

[abstract stratus]

I ss from stealth to the kill target, rupture, dance,cheap, symbols tea blades trinket, flag, secret tech,cheap, eviscerate, cheap, symbols, eviscerate, that last eviscerate usually hits for around about 3-4 mil if the stars align

[verbal field]

anyone using razer naga x and would recommend?

[abstract stratus]

I’ve used the hyperspeed and pro both are gtg

[chrome schooner]

Use an Eviscerate before the Secret Technique, Secret Technique shouldn't be the first finisher

[abstract stratus]

What’s the logic? I would imagine that breaks up finality procs which you wouldn’t want?

[chrome schooner]

Finality doesn't get broken by you using other abilities. If you use Eviscerate, you gain Finality, and the buff lasts 30s or until the next Eviscerate. You get to do whatever you like, use any spell you want before either the 30s run out or you use another Eviscerate.

Now, why you'd want to use at least 1x Eviscerate before Secret Technique, it's because of the talent Deeper Daggers

Eviscerate grants you the buff, and thus the Secret Technique deals more damage

[severe solstice]

Yea that would be ideal but second cheap would not connect with first one im afraid. But thank you for feedback

[abstract stratus]

If we run flag we usually aren’t running DD with it tho

[chrome schooner]

If you run Flag and not Deeper Daggers then you still want Secret Technique to be later rather than sooner so that it benefits from more stacks of Mastery

There's really 0 value in starting your burst with Secret Technique :p

[abstract stratus]

I’ll have to try that later when I get on my current rotation is pretty ground into my brain so it’ll take me a min. I hate that there’s really not a great way to take both tbh

[chrome schooner]

It's strange that you don't start with CC, as well, on a side note

People can get the opener on you with the sequence you described

[safe pelican]

Red is pink ! 🤣

[safe pelican]

I’m going to assume the Naga X is the same as the Naga V2 basically ??? I don’t see anything different with the X if so send it rq but it looks the same and i swear by the Razer Naga for wow the programming with Razer Synapse is dope but I’m sure there’s multiple mmo mouses with the same capabilities , I’ve got the Naga v2 pro

[wintry dew]

❤️ 🩷

NO IT ISNT

[abstract stratus]

My thought process is to hold cds for a moment because most people are already on edge playing against a sub rogue, I’ve gotten trinket disarmed first global before just going in buck wild. Also it gets deathstalkers and a rupture going on the intended kt immediately that will be gtg for the last eviscerate of my first dance so it works out smoother for me I got the initial idea from a nahj stream

[chrome schooner]

well it depends heavily on the situation but lets say you face anything else that has a stun and big damage (rogue, feral, monk, warrior etc), you use your shadowstrike, THEY stun you while you're on global, press every button, and now you're the one who has to give away your trinket first, or have your healer use major spells to save you

instead of you just stunning

[abstract stratus]

That’s why I pre feint before the SS

I get what you mean tho and I’m just saying from a “burst as much as possible” standpoint. Usually into rogues I play rogue chicken and make my healer 1v1 the other healer for my enjoyment

How do you deal with mage blink on sub for the opener? I feel like opening with cs feels very unrewarding into them.

[verbal field]

so you say 100% go for it?

[potent pivot]

whats the difference between the X and the V2?

naga in general is the best mmo mouse rn (imo)

[verbal field]

no idea, a friend recommended me that

just said like naga x

hyperspeed v2 seems to be my go to

[potent pivot]

i would just look at the differences and see if they matter, if not just get the cheapest

iirc it should only be like $70-80

all the expensive ones are just wireless or have interchangable side panels (neither of these are necessary at all)

[ionic orbit]

It's interesting how some of the talent choices change for the top 50. Like for months now nobody has been using Gloomblade or Flagellation. Now 30+ dudes in the top 50 for SS are using gloomblade and flagellation

i don't know if data is guiding those decisions, preference, or just "following the herd"

[tight hill]

yeah that felt like overnight everyone switched

i'm not convinced on these still, 2 talent points for a 5 sec cd reduction

idk man

[ionic orbit]

Yeah ive been iffy on those 2 as well

the shroud one is just a fun gimic for randoms

[ionic orbit]

I used flagellation for months then i realized nobody who was a top player was using it, so i switched, but now like 31 of them are. make it make sense lol

[safe pelican]

I mean I went from the trackpad on my MacBook to the 12 button mouse , so i guess you could say I’m bias but you won’t be disappointed, what do you have rn ?? Like Trickz said if you are worried about price the 70-80 bucks for the hyper speed is decent don’t really need the pro if you don’t want to spend the extra $40 you will still get the main bulk of what’s good which is the 12 buttons on the side

Ive got a wired pro as well not a fan of wireless for response time

[verbal field]

My current mouse is just this basic one from logitech with only 2 side buttons

[potent pivot]

things change over time

also can't just follow murlok blindly

gloomblade and flag are both quite good

but you gotta do some of the thinking for yourself

what works for some may not work for you

can see plenty of success with basically any build as long as it isn't completely troll

[safe pelican]

Me running subterfuge not giving a flying fuck 😂 i refuse to not run it idc , shit I’m about to bring back the double vanish too

[halcyon timber]

Do it, hivemind be damned

No matter what you pick, there are trades. That is how balance is preserved and should be done.

[fathom cliff]

sup guys, havent played arena in a few years, what's up with me being kicked out of stealth for no reason every other match? any fixes?

[halcyon timber]

Many classes have lots of stuff now that just hits “nearby targets” is part of it. Just something we adapt to now.

Singular focus as deathstalker is one of our things we have to pay attention to on our side

[fathom cliff]

that would be understandable, but it doesnt put me in combat or anything, played rm now and it just puts me out of stealth after reset

[halcyon timber]

Enchants can and some ish. Hard to pin point without recordings and knowing what other classes are doing at the time.

[fathom cliff]

that's super sad, thanks for info

[potent pivot]

if you're playing deathstalker and have one target Marked and another target with a bleed on it, it'll break your stealth

the talent called Singular Focus

[halcyon timber]

Like helm enchant that came back can depending on which one . Lots of “iffy” things “can”.

Sometimes embellishment focusing lens can delay / break stealth (dummy testing - not always consistent but “can” happen).

[ionic orbit]

did i do these algari crafts correctly? In pvp they give better stats than my warmongers, but in the world they give quite a bit less on some stats like stamina.

[torpid swan]

how long are solo queues nowadays? tryna get back into it

[ionic orbit]

Generally too long but lately ive been getting some good que times. ive had a few solo shuffle ques be less than 15min, but usually theyre 30min+

[torpid swan]

damnnnn

[ionic orbit]

Yeah coming from a game i used to play more like CoD, these wait times suck. CoD you usually wait less than 5min

[potent pivot]

if they're 684 pvp ilvl then yes

684 is correct

they won't scale to 684 in the open world unless you enter one of the wpvp areas or you engage in wpvp combat

[midnight siren]

are the crafted options that much better than conq? aside from the ones to match stats

[stoic spruce]

I wish I could not run it

[potent pivot]

For a few slots yeah

You’re just trading vers for more mastery

[midnight siren]

i got the ones set to vers mast for a ring neck plus boots for embellishment.

[keen canopy]

eh idk im not convinced on gloomblade yet

but i've being running flag on one of my sub rogues since forever

[stoic spruce]

Flag wasn't a thing until SL

So obv not forever

[ionic orbit]

im trying it out for the first time. dont know if it makes sense by the numbers, but it feels better than backstab when youre having to spam gloom or backstab 1000s of times lol

[keen canopy]

nah i was drinking the primordial soup and then 3 minutes after i was using flag in arena

before the first spinjitzu master created ninjago, i was running flag

[stoic spruce]

Whoa

Your social security number is 1

[keen canopy]

nah roosevelt is 1

mine is 0

mr burns is 2

[stoic spruce]

Monkey boy

[dark kernel]

I appreciate the age you exhibit with this reference

Makes me feel at home

[grave basin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1lavafy/cheating_in_pvp_is_going_crazy_screen_from_a/

[midnight siren]

i dont know what i can do to win games, i use cds and open on a healer getting trinket and a CD or 2 but then im out of juice. if theres 2 its impossible to dent them without help

[dense pumice]

is sub or assa better right now? i havent been pvping on my rogue and am need to get the elite set before the season ends

i usually just get it as assa

[grave basin]

Both are fine

[dense pumice]

do you use wound poison or deadly as assa? lol its been awhile

[grave basin]

Wound

[dense pumice]

How is the hunter FD nameplate bug not fixed? it's been literal YEARS

[grave basin]

Haven't seen it in ages

Are you sure it's not an addon

[dense pumice]

haha i dont think there's any addon that would replicate a known bug

the only thing i have for nameplates is plater, and I've had it happen w/o addons as well

[oak owl]

yoo

will this macro work?

#showtooltip
/cast [@arena1,exists] Blind;
/cast [@arena1,noexists,@target] Blind

i.e. Blind Arena 1 in Arena and Blind my target outside of it (BGB)

[spring bough]

hows outlaw pvp today

[stoic spruce]

No clue. It's my work week lol

[wanton breach]

no it won't work, you can't have two targeting conditions

/use [@arena1,exists,nodead][]Blind

This macro will blind arena 1 if it exists and is alive and your current target if there is no arena 1 or if arena 1 is dead

[grave basin]

ermn

any1 got kicked out of the game

i was in a shuffle man

what's happening kek

[jolly sierra]

the priest casted you towards the shadowlands instead the log screen

[grave basin]

it's the universe punishing me for not playing my rog

[jolly sierra]

ye

go rog

[spring bough]

GG shuffle rating. Tf is oceanic?

Go outlaw it’s calling

[robust harbor]

Are the talent choices in the pin really the best talent choices for sub?

Anything I can trade for an extra vanish?

[potent pivot]

you would swap tea/vigor for subt/vanish, but no sub doesn't need it

[spring bough]

Is it a good pvp day

[dark kernel]

Hell yeah

[stoic spruce]

Bet that's nice

Having options

Sigh

Sighhhhh

Sighhhhhhhhh

[pastel burrow]

you've got some amazing options too bud

just like how sub rogues can decide between vanish or tea

you can decide between switching to assa or sub

[stoic spruce]

That's itm

Meet me outside Dorn

Wm on

[pastel burrow]

I can't hear you I'm going through a tunnel

[stoic spruce]

I'm telling on you

@potent pivot he's not accepting my duelllllllll

Ban him

I'll do it myself

!ban Jack

!ban NoTrickz

Green popo when?

[pastel burrow]

fuck I'm banned

[stoic spruce]

Get banned nerd

You're so banned rn

[dark kernel]

I am Phillips raging gonorrhea

[gleaming sentinel]

I am jacks crowd control received pirate

[stoic spruce]

I be spamming bans like it's Cheap Shot

Unfortunately that's a bar

[spring bough]

options?!?!

this is OUTLAW u gott TWO

[stoic spruce]

1 and a half

Honestly

Lol

[spring bough]

ret, DH, or arms right now or outlaw

[stoic spruce]

Outlaw

But like

Only because its cool

[spring bough]

kul tiran or night elf

or human

[stoic spruce]

Human

[spring bough]

going for them extra stats huh

[jolly sierra]

pandaren

[spring bough]

i aent got one of those for a rogue yet tbh

[jolly sierra]

welp, what are you waiting for

lol

[spring bough]

i got tired of levelingg up rogues tbh might wait till legion remix

in the last month ive done a horde/ally drac rogue, a gnome, tauren, and an orc lol

[jolly sierra]

damn

ye that is a lot

[stoic spruce]

Form over function

[spring bough]

might do the night elf its more decked than the human and already at like 1900 in solo

question is do i go regular crit/haste on the night elf or do i do more mastery for this outlaw

[spring bough]

priests that abuse the mind control DC need to be banned from pvp

[safe pelican]

Fortunately ***

[dense pumice]

Do we ever use Backstab over Shadowstrike during shadowdance?

playing DS

[potent pivot]

Nah

They do it in pve once per dance, it isn’t worth doing in pvp as we have different tuning for many of our damage modifiers

[long shore]

Finding sub insanely fun this season !

The damage feels pretty balanced

Big hits and in shuffle the new feint talent makes it so tanky, or taking the short shadow step to teammate talent

Leaving melee zuggers in the dust when you step healer and kite

[spring bough]

why is outlaw as night elf so much easier lol

combat is back

[spring bough]

6-3 on my night elf in blitz and already 1672... what is this rating climb lol

[gleaming sentinel]

slows down a bit after 1500

[spring bough]

1 shuffle round lol

[potent pivot]

pets

[acoustic junco]

I mean to be fair he did almost 90 million to two actual players

[spring bough]

GY farming Tarren Mill is so much fun on the brawl lol

[ionic orbit]

Damn 99.999% of the time im the lowest or 2nd lowest in dmg for solo shuffle on my sub rogue

[ionic orbit]

over the course of all 6 rounds

[glass hazel]

sub dont pad so its normal

i'm sometimes like 200m and all others like 30-50 in pet lobby

[stoic spruce]

They do when they fight me

F u sub rogues

Get good

Your dmg means nothing when I win

[spring bough]

Pad? What’s pad?

[halcyon timber]

Something a frog sits on

[jaunty osprey]

good morning pvp

[oak owl]

Dope thanks

[jaunty osprey]

oh shit reckful's account got unbanned

[long shore]

Why ?

[jaunty osprey]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2486716765?t=01h09m21s

Barry was playing it

he got it unbanned

[dark kernel]

Its like the biggest retroactive dick slap in the face tbh

If you were there back then, that whole situation was just turbo fucked internal hate like the old Tyler1 situation.

[jaunty osprey]

Ya, I've been playing since vanilla

[dark kernel]

Ahh good

I felt it was stupid they banned him for piloting, then like 6 months later let you buy a class boost which would have alleviated the need for a ban

And they didn't perm him for boosting, because TONS of players admitted to doing it in their past and not get banned

[jaunty osprey]

I played on EU in Cata and used to literally advertise in trade chat that I was doing RBG boosts for paypal $$

and never got banned

But ya, they pick and choose when to enforce rules - and made an example out of him

[dark kernel]

Yeah. I was pretty upset at the time. I still kind of feel Blizzard is partially to blame for everything.

You just kind of wonder if during COVID Blizz unbanned Reckful and gave him something to do if he'd still be here.

But oh well

[verbal field]

am I trippin or can anyone tell me why this focus kick macro only does a step, its like I press it: only step, if I press again THEN kick? or should it work like this?

[tight hill]

would it be trying to cast the kick whilst out of range? idk i use 2 binds for step kick

[verbal field]

maybe like the step and the kick at the same time so its outta range yea

ah nvm it should work like that...

[tight hill]

hm, does it cast shadowstep again though if you have 2 charges?

[jaunty osprey]

step has an ICD for itself

so no

[keen canopy]

yeah what i was gonna say

[tight hill]

nice

[potent pivot]

[verbal field]

well reading everything would help me sometimes haha

[jaunty osprey]

nah

dont even need to read

just test it on a dummy

it doesnt say it has an ICD on the tooltip

[potent pivot]

i think he meant the 'press again for kick' part :p

[verbal field]

yee

[dark kernel]

I use this same macro. You just have to use it very quickly double press it

[verbal field]

Yeah thank you alr figured it out

[gleaming sentinel]

starting to work on sub, its really funny how threatening i feel compared to outlaw

[dark kernel]

I find it to be more frustrating overall to be honest

[gleaming sentinel]

idk, kidney a target send a go on your target, eventually you get em

i just really dont enjoy outlaw in shuffle atm, maybe i need to switch my style or somehting

[glass hazel]

Padding = inflating dps meters by doing non meaningful dps

[spring bough]

how is it non meaningful when its hitting the off target DPS and killing pets that are doing daamge to my team

swaps to off target DPS or healer never been easier as outlaw with all this flurry dmg

[glass hazel]

As sub? We were talking about sub

Pets have like 90% aoe resistance or smth if I remember correctly

[outer sky]

did they change Ring of Frost so you cant see it until its done being cast?

[spring bough]

dont think so. i usually see the ring form before the cast is finished

[jaunty osprey]

A mechanic that's been in the game for several expansions is casting ring while you're invis

that makes it so you can't see it until it's cast

or sometimes at all

[dense sluice]

bro tried to ping 133,000 people

i have nothing to say

dang we should find him and ban him from discord

sure but it's not relevant to discord

[jolly sierra]

wtf

[dense sluice]

[jolly sierra]

gramps take the pills plz ty

[stoic spruce]

Solo in pvp

Hell has indeed frozen over

[candid condor]

!ban @limber merlinI aint got patience for this kind of shiznit today

Carry on

[spring bough]

a new pvper has emerged?

[stoic spruce]

Damn

Guess I'll dm him

Some has to let him know he's bad

"Its a dirty job but someone's gotta do it"

[jolly sierra]

i was watching his youtube channel

its a CSGO player

damn, that is beyond chernobyl in toxicity levels

[potent pivot]

[jaunty osprey]

wat happened

what did i miss

[stoic spruce]

CSGO player stepped into wow and lost and tried to get in contact with someone who may or may not have been in this server

[dark kernel]

first 2200 and as outlaw

[glass hazel]

pogger

i stopped at 2.1 for a while not sure i can push to 2.4 and there is no reward in between

[verbal field]

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

Subtlety: Vers>Mastery>Crit>Haste
Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Crit=/=Haste
Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You likely want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw for an extra GCD during ADR/Crackshot windows. Take 'em by Surprise gives you 10% during CS windows, so you only need 10-15% from gear.

[frozen shore]

how is assassination feeling in blitz? havent done rogue pvp at high level in a while but used to main mut

[dark kernel]

Its fine. Suited for team fights

[frozen shore]

noted, thanks

[spring bough]

A nice red tabard at elite 😂

Wish some of these elite rewards actually looked cool 😭

[waxen meteor]

Just came back of a two weeks vacation in hawaii, any best homies can help me with major tunings these 2 weeks

[dark kernel]

Dude the red looks so ass while last seasons tabard and next seasons are amazing

[spring bough]

Same old same old

[spring bough]

They have the models out for next season? Do they have tier previews?

[dark kernel]

No. But this xpac Blizzard pre made all the Pvp rewards

We've known the Season 3 glad mount since S1

[spring bough]

Got the tabard preview link?

[waxen meteor]

Is s2 closing soon?

[waxen meteor]

ha?

I just did some search in wow news channel, it seems there's no tuning these 2 weeks?

[spring bough]

Idt they even have an end date yet

Feels like season 2 never gonna end lol

We get that new beefed up belt today I think with the abilities on it

[waxen meteor]

what is that!

[dapper chasm]

The ping made me angry, so I want to remind everyone that Subtlety is the only true rogue skill-spec

[dark kernel]

Let me see

[dark kernel]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/future-season-pvp-cape-and-tabard-appearances-discovered-in-patch-11-0-5-347985

[waxen meteor]

damn, we have to do the delves?

[pastel burrow]

yo what the fuck that tabard is sick

[spring bough]

Just go trickster outlaw. Tricks of trade the healer. Do a run in 5 minutes lol

[spring bough]

Looks ass too

Can’t think of one rogue set I could rock that with 😭

[dark kernel]

It's better than all red horse shit. The blue may match Season 2 dragonflight set

The gold and pink was sexy I was just too lazy to queue blitz last season

I really rather not have elite than have to do it in Blitz and that's dead ass

[dapper chasm]

No man in history has called himself an outlaw whilst being one

[sharp sierra]

is outlaw any good in pvp ?

[spring bough]

S tier in my eyes. Outlaw fun asf

[sharp sierra]

lets go

[dark kernel]

I want to do double rogue rdruid

I played that comp in tbc

[spring bough]

Try some trickster KIR might surprise you. Fatebound KIR for blitz is great too

[sharp sierra]

whats KIR ?

[spring bough]

It feels so good when u get a 5 roll, get a 6th from CTO, KIR that and just CRANK on people. ESP when u got 2 vanishes and a meld still up 😂

KIR is the ability that extends RTB buffs

[sharp sierra]

oh ok

[spring bough]

It’s a lil more difficult to play than HO but so much more rewarding when 5-6 buffs happen

[dark owl]

Any advice for someone new to rogue for PvP? Looking at sub looks so much fun

[hoary iron]

Can you do shadowstep + Kick macro

Or do you have to press it twice then

[verbal field]

you have to quickly press 2x

[grave basin]

atleast the t2 recolour we are gonna get is kinda ok

full black

with shades of silver/grey

it's aite?

i like the shoulders and boots atleast

[waxen meteor]

i don't feel it looks good tbh..

[grave basin]

it's not the worst

better than hunters getting a literal piss set

[tight hill]

we have evoker at home

[verbal field]

look mom, I am a draguuun

[tight hill]

all they had to do was make the rogue set more black and it would be top tier

not sure why they went with such a brown red hue

[dark kernel]

I love it. I have the OG blue set as a mog already too

We need tier 3 recolors. Cryptstalker for hunter is so vadass

[gilded gulch]

its the same colors as the tbc raid recolor of bloodfang

[verbal field]

theres also a blue recolor and iirc that one will also come in future

[gilded gulch]

Yeah I think they did most of the tbc dungeon recolors

[pale storm]

realms are up y'all

[robust harbor]

Can blizzard even color black?

[spring bough]

Blizz said hunters get no color

[languid ravine]

First Shuffle after a week break: WHOA this is so much more fun if you take long breaks
Second Shuffle: Holy shit this guy are dumb and the other two are obviously botting
Third and Fourth Shuffle: made two healers ragequit
Okay bye see you next month

[wintry dew]

As soon as i get it i'll see if i can cook with it

[hidden moth]

anyone hit 1800 with the 1 button yet?

[hidden moth]

wheree do we get the recolor?

[wintry dew]

goblin spawn event