pvp

[potent pivot]

?

[proven mica]

my only homies are people with interruptible cast bars

[last jasper]

wdym by our hommies?

[potent pivot]

you don't know what "homies" is?

[last jasper]

this is so cancer to play when u chaned of ice 99% of time and also rotted etc

[last jasper]

"friends"?

[potent pivot]

basically yeah

homeboys, homies, etc

[last jasper]

so I dont get how are hommies? what makes them to?

[potent pivot]

its just a saying for fun, like a joke

like rets are our mortal enemies

all my homies hate rets

but DHs and rogues should be homies

[last jasper]

oh... I thought cuz of "kidney" nova and prison

Yea, rn its kinda fun. Messing with double glipse etc is fun

sadly, I'm kinda playing like dog today or idk

And I wasn't leaving. Pure skill shuff by shuff

[languid ravine]

My shuffles today are laughable easy and yesterday I was sweating like never before

same rating

maybe monday evening is the secret

[last jasper]

First few were that way too. Except few where I had glads stomping 6-0. Idk what were they doing sub 2k. After that I just gave up and prob trolling

or I am brain damaged cuz my frost mage had similar journey later this weekend

[languid ravine]

for Frost you need to in "in the zone"

Havoc I got similiar experience where sometimes it doesnt matter how good or bad you play the rounds are coinflip

[last jasper]

I mostly cracked when we were close to win but my mate wasn't paying attention or something. And I cracked

at least q times are faster. Something positive

[dark kernel]

I've had 40 minute queues this whole week

Then yesterday had a 10 min one that I had to afk

Good shit.

-150

[last jasper]

pretty sure u would regret

[jolly sierra]

dude

i am fighting egotist

in the shuffle

[jolly sierra]

PAY ATTENTION

[last jasper]

to what?

u are constatly hidden

[jolly sierra]

we are in the same match

XD

[last jasper]

lost me a round

[jolly sierra]

wtf

[last jasper]

are u a pally?

[jolly sierra]

ye

[last jasper]

yea

im gonna leave this lobby

[jolly sierra]

relax

[last jasper]

I was pissed at the moment ur bubble back on cd

and u were 5% for like ages

[dark kernel]

This is poetry

[jolly sierra]

ye

i don't wanna be insulted by the homie

[last jasper]

ppl just ignore me 😄 lmao

[jolly sierra]

gg

[last jasper]

q again

[jolly sierra]

omw

[last jasper]

nah, ppl need a mental check

[jolly sierra]

i need the tier tbh

im playing w 0

[last jasper]

fuckin zugzug cound't press execute for 5min straight

[jolly sierra]

the wep is 675, most of gear is green

but ye

if i can match their dps

as they have more gear

then idk

its clear is the hardstuck lobby

[last jasper]

match?

the guy had 2 buttons and was failing to press them in correct order

[jolly sierra]

is that the overall?

i have this from the last one

[last jasper]

nope, the round when u managed to live with 5% hp for 35 minutes

[jolly sierra]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

XD

[last jasper]

and the gigachad couldn't help me finish u by pressing 1 execute 😄

[jolly sierra]

...

he is full conq

[last jasper]

H@H@H@H@

no wonder. he didn't pressed it once that round

he is so lucky I am muted

Cuz i would've got the mute after that 😄

[jolly sierra]

how tf w full conq

can't do enough dmg

as the S tier spec

[last jasper]

and he did like 3\3 ?:D

or was 2\4 like I did?

[jolly sierra]

don't remember

[dark kernel]

That is legitimately abysmal fury DPS

Especially into an affliction warlock

[glass iris]

Why is fatebound ho played in pvpv

[potent pivot]

because its better

[jolly sierra]

ye

the shatter talent hits like a truck in the pact

[glass iris]

Oh makes sense then, ty

[spring bough]

So 🪦 outlaw rogue for PvP tomorrow 😆

[low timber]

i dont get this outlaw nerf

rip fun spec

but hey buff frost mage xD

[dark kernel]

Dazed seems to think it's going to be a little rough, but not ogre

I'ma stick with it while I build out my sub set.

[spring bough]

Hit my goal for the season bout to slam alts 😂

[halcyon timber]

Ret zealots swear they need buffs too - side note

[dark kernel]

push beyond

I need elite shuffle this season

[jolly sierra]

i was the ret zealot

[halcyon timber]

XD freakin a

[stoic lava]

Someone hold me while I enjoy my last night of outlaw being fun

[languid ravine]

It ll be so hilarious when patch drops tomorrow and it turns out to be just fine after all this doomsaying

[severe helm]

Mostly for the mobility

Since mobility is really the only thing outlaw has over the other two rogue specs

[dark kernel]

It's going to be okay when other classes get adjusted

[severe helm]

Even if they compensate with more damage buffs it'll still be way less fun

Cdr is what makes outlaw outlaw imo

[dark kernel]

I just wish the sinister strike buff applied to ambush

Ahh

[potent pivot]

It’ll prolly be “fine” sure, but that’s beside the point. The point is that it’s an unnecessary nerf to something so integral to the spec’s identity

[dark kernel]

I'm just more concerned it's the base kit nerf. I'd rather them make the pvp modifier worse

But that would be smart

[wary thistle]

"How about a shinier wheelchair?" -blizzard

[halcyon timber]

HOJ nEedS to HiT 3 tArgEts

[wary thistle]

If they did that I might actually jam my ret in pvp

But I haven't touched it since my rl friend group stopped playing keys. It's just boring 🥱

[halcyon timber]

Inb4 lay on hands resets with wake of ashes just because

[ionic orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/we-are-family-sister-sledge-disco-70s-music-gif-18058049

When there are 3 sub rogues on your team

[last jasper]

gigacahd. I am a frost mage

[stoic spruce]

@jolly sierra your work?

[jolly sierra]

not anymore until some weeks

why

[stoic spruce]

Was asking because the mage was disarmed

Thought it was you

[jolly sierra]

ah

no

not this time lol

[vocal surge]

3.2M Burst DPS ST on the training dummy

[grave basin]

@last jasper

im on my frost mage arc too kekw

150 rating away from 6th 1800 set

[grave basin]

GOTCHA

[gusty hedge]

[last jasper]

this is so fucking cancer. 3 times in the row as caster with fuckin mm hunter

...............

[wanton breach]

RIP to anyone opposing that

[grizzled basin]

What is this addon ? A Gladius-ex custo ? 🙂

[last jasper]

sarena with omni

[proper burrow]

how to track stun dr

[dark kernel]

Diminish or Teea Dr tracker on wagon.io

[halcyon timber]

Lol the hell is this picture. Great meme

[glass iris]

Fatebound or trickster in arenas?

[halcyon timber]

Your preference man

[dark kernel]

Either is fine honestly. There are small advantages between them both

State bound is easier to help your team by crowd controlling and to stick on a target. Trickster does a lot more cleave damage to multiple melee enemies

I switch between them both regularly

[halcyon timber]

Great lobby (for the hunters kek)

[glass iris]

Do people play fatebound with killing spree in arenas?

[grave basin]

yes..

[glass iris]

So you would play normal pve trickster rotation (minus coup) but with fatebound talents?

(if you took fatebound talents)

[stoic spruce]

They play the same in pvp as pve

Uptime is much harder though for obvious reasons

[potent pivot]

Gladius

[glass iris]

I don't think we use KS as fatebound in PVE

[stoic spruce]

Well no but you can

But the KS rules are the same

[glass iris]

thank you :)

[stoic spruce]

Except

EXCEPT

[glass iris]

:)

[stoic spruce]

There's no fear of dying

So just send it

[glass iris]

If anything, is a great defensive

[stoic spruce]

Big dam too

[glass iris]

(i've found, at lower levels at least)

[dark kernel]

As fatebound you do use KS but it's not as important for damage

I still use it pretty much on CD unless I know I'm about to get rooted, or big hit so I can use it for wall or root break

Feint killing spree a destro locks double bolt is strong.

[halcyon timber]

NeRf ThAT bLIzzArd - warlock being a jackass

[glass iris]

Is the Prized Warmonger's Cloak better than 665 trashmaster cloak?

[dark kernel]

Yes

You should be using a mix of the bloody token and conquest gear until you slowly get full conquest

[glass iris]

My crafted bracers are embellished and have the crit gem

I keep the belt with the socket, right? Or do I swap it out for a bloody token belt

[dark kernel]

I don't know what belt it is, but use yours. The bloody token belt is mastery

[glass iris]

it has the right stats i think

[dark kernel]

You want the haste boots from bloody tokens

[glass iris]

not perfect

crit vers

[glass iris]

ty

[glass iris]

what should we do as outlaw on twin peaks? anything specific

[dark kernel]

You either slow down the enemy FC, CC the enemy healers, or you can even run the flag if there's no better option, using the grapples.

[glass iris]

What should I spend my conquest on? Upgrading my honor trinkets?

[vocal surge]

Trinkets are the very last thing you upgrade

[glass iris]

and i don't break tier set right? I've upgraded shoulders and hands with the conquest item, but head and legs are still pve

[vocal surge]

Ye

You should have enough charges to convert conq shoulders and hands

[glass iris]

Ring should be the crafted one, right?

[vocal surge]

Up to ya

[glass iris]

I have done those already

[vocal surge]

Aye

[vocal surge]

The CDR nerf feels so bad

lol

had so much downtime it was unreal

[grave basin]

guess what peeps are doing this reset

how do people fotm this fast lol

[dark kernel]

The one downside of modern WoW is fotm

I actually kind of miss when leveling alts was a pain, but it hurts us more

[lavish idol]

What's the general feeling for solo shuffle atm, outlaw can cut it? I was gonna try trickster

[dark kernel]

Right now with the nerfs Sub and Sin are going to be clearly in the lead

Until some new tech gets figured out or further changes.

[lavish idol]

Meh I cba to learn those. 1.8k with outlaw doable?

[glass iris]

me and a friend are trying to queue bg blitz

it does a role check but then doesn't queue us

any idea hwy?

also in arenas with a healer , any advice? should we focus healer or dps

[gleaming sentinel]

Yes. Absolutely.

[grave basin]

justhad petkick in my lob

ofc

with his 25th dk

[vocal surge]

KIR beats HO rn

[lavish idol]

You can craft 2 of the same ring right?

[glass iris]

not being able to queue for bg blitz with a second person is that a known bug or is t here something we might be doing wrong/

[lavish idol]

That's what the 2 means?

[glass iris]

no, you can have max 4 embellished

this counts for 2

so you can have max 2 embellished more

the unique-equipped means you can only have one of this item

[lavish idol]

Ah yeah 2 embellishments only

What are the two rings people are crafting then

[quaint cedar]

Yeah, I think with the changes we go back to KiR right? Whaazz seemed to think KiR would be better. Make more use of the compensation damage buffs

[glass iris]

this and the pve one maybe

we got compensation damage buffs?

[vocal surge]

KIR has WAY higher uptime

on Adrenaline rush

over HO

HO you can barely reach the next Vanish window before Adrenaline Rush drops

and after like 3 or 4 vanishes

your dry

completely spent

[tribal badger]

kir abuses cdr far harder then HO

the thing that got nerfed more then anything was our cdr

i would be very surprised if this leads to kir being good in pvp when it never has been before

[vocal surge]

Its always been good

[tribal badger]

sure, not as good as HO tho

and it just got nerfed by more then HO

[vocal surge]

They were equal before the nerf

[tribal badger]

the part of kir that did damage wasnt even ever its builders

i dont know what metric u can use to call them equal if literally nobody is playing the build. it has what, 2 people high ranked trying to make it work?

but regardless of if it was equal

they buffed the parts of kir that didnt even do most of its damage (builders) and nerfed cdr which it needs to leverage far harder then HO to do damage

[quaint cedar]

KiR was actually better this season before you get your 4 set

[tribal badger]

ok are there still people without 4sets tho

how is that relevant

do u think u can make up for this nerf by avoiding 4set and playing kir?

[quaint cedar]

You just said it was never good

I was refuting that statement, that's all

No of course you play 4 set lol

[tribal badger]

ok so for the few weeks before people had real gear it was competative with HO? i dont know how to refute that because i was playing HO during that time period and again, so was 90% of the ladder/top ranked rogues

[quaint cedar]

I think losing enduring brawler helped KiR catch up

[tribal badger]

but i cant prove u wrong so i guess I'll ask if that matters at all

[quaint cedar]

Whaazz was playing KiR yes, so were a few others

[tribal badger]

yes

very few people

[quaint cedar]

Not sure why you're being rude about it, just providing info

[tribal badger]

im sure it was viable

well no im asking do we think that kir can somehow overcome the loss of cdr to beat where old HO was pre nerf

[vocal surge]

Playing against high rated players to see if its viable

[tribal badger]

i thought that was the convo

[quaint cedar]

I tried it and it felt very good. Tier set put HO back on top though. I'm wondering if the changes today will shift it back to KiR.

[dark kernel]

I was kind of figuring we may get pigeonholed to kir fatebound

With the coup fix

It wouldn't be awful. Just less options and stick to trickster only into double melee cleaves

[tribal badger]

might try some more fatebound yea, im not convinced on kir because again the nerf to outlaw was to its cdr, and kir requires cdr alot more then HO does

to do effective damage

[dark kernel]

True bearing stocks 📈

[quaint cedar]

It wasn't "trying to make it work" it was just straight up better before you get 4 set

[vocal surge]

The nerf to Restless blade hits harder at HO than KIR x)

[tribal badger]

thats why im asking by what metric? were all of the top ranked during this period playing kir? did some top ranked players just say it was?

[dark kernel]

It would kind of blow, but we could try running thistle tea again.

[tribal badger]

because 90% of the players have been HO since day 1 of the season, thats all im asking

how was it determined kir was better. just ur experience playing it?

[vocal surge]

Aye

[quaint cedar]

I don't have anything to give you because that time has passed. Everyone has 4 set now. But it was true at the time yes. Watch Whaazz's streams and ask him. He's huge on KiR

[tribal badger]

i mean i dont really care about the opinion of 1 single pvper, even if they were the best pvper of a spec

[quaint cedar]

Really not understanding the aggression here

[tribal badger]

its often hard to tell what build is best

[dark kernel]

Hidden opportunity fatebound has been the safe and consistent choice option which is why it's the high rated default

[tribal badger]

theirs no aggresion man i just dont understand where this idea that there was a consensus kir was better came from

and i was trying to understand it

[vocal surge]

Go into PvP session, feel intense nerf to HO despite not getting hit with CC, sadge

Swap to KIR and go PvP, feels far more kill pressure over HO

[dark kernel]

Doing God's work

[severe helm]

@tribal badger Solo thinks that the RB nerf they did is actually only going to apply when true bearing is down lololol

he said looking at the patch notes they didnt update the cdr values of true bearing

and its an overrite buff

[tribal badger]

what because of the way the spelldata works

LOL

[severe helm]

not a modifier

yeeeeeeeeeeeeep

blizz's complete incompetence strikes again

[dark kernel]

That would be huge stocks but it'll be hot fixed in a day because rogue

[severe helm]

they wont even know

[quaint cedar]

Wait for real? Lmao

So if you have true bearing up you are unnerfed essentially?

[vocal surge]

Yeah

[severe helm]

buffed actually

[vocal surge]

0.8s Restless Blade
+0.5s w. True Bearing

[severe helm]

cuz 20% SS and PS 😉

[quaint cedar]

Lmao that's amazing

[severe helm]

nah

its 2s with true bearing

its not an additive

its a substitute buff

[vocal surge]

I thought True Bearing added +.5s CDR

[quaint cedar]

More proof that the dev who made these changes has 0 clue how outlaw works

[severe helm]

at least thats what I understand from what solo said

leme confirm

but yeah it might be 0.8 + 0.5

so barely nerfed when TB is up

[dark kernel]

It says, "by an additional .5" but you are right if they didn't apply a modifier correctly.

[glass iris]

is this only pvp or allso pve

[severe helm]

either way im glad blizz forgot or fucked up

[dark kernel]

But tbh it just makes True Bearing more valuable

[vocal surge]

only PvP

KIR DPS ST

[dark kernel]

I feel nerfing RB after the coup hot fix was a little premature.

[vocal surge]

HO DPS 3 player cleave for effectively the entire game with cleave talents (No CCs taken)

[dark kernel]

Oof.

[vocal surge]

AR Up time

[tribal badger]

but look how much winning ur doing

[severe helm]

Aite yeah solo said 0.8 + 0.5

[tribal badger]

so much winning streak!

[vocal surge]

Lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPFiKEm-oNI&ab_channel=raxdflipnote

[severe helm]

so they essentially just worsened our bad luck

but did minimal to our high roll

which is p shit lol

[dark kernel]

Which is why the build favors kir

[severe helm]

eh

[tribal badger]

made high roll more rare as well

[severe helm]

not sure about that

[tribal badger]

is the main thing

[severe helm]

also kir cant run gsw very easily

[tribal badger]

less RtBs less vanishes less AR windows

[severe helm]

so I think the new bis build is def gona be HO with GSW

regardless both specs lost adr uptime

and lower adr uptime hurts kir more

[dark kernel]

We're Shadowlands now

[severe helm]

significantly

[dark kernel]

If you have GSW does it apply to all 6 shots of pistol with fan the hammer

We could farm juicy crits

[severe helm]

just the first one

[dark kernel]

Waste.

[severe helm]

nah

try it out

ps does more damage than bte

[dark kernel]

Yeah but you still have to talent crack shot and lose ghostly strike then

[severe helm]

nope

you drop cto

only HO can do this

why is why I said its better for HO lol

kir would have to drop gs

so they cant really take gsw

[grave basin]

guys

just go sub

[dark kernel]

Maybe in like 6 weeks after completely regearing

[vocal surge]

Lol

[gleaming pawn]

Playing Sub is the path to madness and hate. Just play Sin

[grave basin]

everytime a dh presses chaos nova a sub rogue deletes his toon

[last jasper]

shit dh is kinda funny

[last jasper]

I agree with every word. I'm pretty sure my therapist already needs their own therapist just because of me alone.

[quaint cedar]

What's AR uptime for KiR?

[vocal surge]

Considering how long I was CC'd for with KIR, 54%

[quaint cedar]

So KiR has higher ADR uptime still, good to know. You think KiR feels better?

[vocal surge]

Absolutely

[sharp sierra]

You guys think uh DK gonna do well now

[dark kernel]

It's been doing pretty okay. My buddy is playing priest, unholy DK, BM Hunter at 2300

It just more or less has some niche compositions

[glass iris]

What can I do to farm honor (other than bgs etc)

I remember someone mentioning a quest or something?

[jolly sierra]

daily skirmish, and afk camping chests in outdoor

[glass iris]

is there a weakaura or something for the chests

or just have to look and try to get lucky

[dark kernel]

There's groups in the group finder, and yeah there's an add-on

Chest farming is better for conquest than honor though I think

[jolly sierra]

idk, i just keep the sound active in tab and hear for the guy landing them

[potent pivot]

https://wago.io/ges7Ie7d8

this will alert you if a chest spawns in your zone

you have to be outside of the main city if you're going to camp the isle of dorn

[glass iris]

are there any zones that are best to camp , or are all similarly good

[potent pivot]

they are all the same

[sharp sierra]

Even after the buffs they aren’t great?

[potent pivot]

the udk buffs weren't very big

[sharp sierra]

Lame. I heard they sort of gutted frost mage

[dark kernel]

Good

[potent pivot]

yeah thats a good thing

they were kinda broken, once again

[dark kernel]

Frost mage was absolutely so bat shit insane.

Warlocks are currently S tier and so are Spriest, and they are so under the radar because frost and arcane were like S++

[sharp sierra]

Yeah but arcane is super boring when I play mage I want to play frost

[potent pivot]

so... play frost?

[atomic loom]

Should i use my gladiator heraldry from the quest for weapons as sub rogue?

[potent pivot]

no

you get free weapons after earning 2500 conquest

you craft neck/rings with the heraldries

[sharp sierra]

But it sucks now

[potent pivot]

no1 said it sucks

you can play basically any spec in this game

[sharp sierra]

Apparently they were out of touch with the nerfs and should’ve nerfed their surv not their burst

[potent pivot]

nah

[sharp sierra]

Surv and ice wall

Were the issue

[potent pivot]

the burst 100% needed nerfs

1000% needed nerfs

[sharp sierra]

Still did less than every class in the game imo

Except maybe add lock

[potent pivot]

????????

thats a take

if i've ever heard one ngl

[sharp sierra]

Well as a healer frost mages never scared me damage wise

Dev evoker tho

[potent pivot]

Frost mage had the strongest burst in game

[sharp sierra]

Meh.

[potent pivot]

Wasn’t even close

[sharp sierra]

Well now it’s go fire/arcane or play on hard mode

[potent pivot]

It’s not though

They buffed frosts baseline

So it isn’t weak outside CDs and still has half decent CDs

[sharp sierra]

4% is pretty meh

[potent pivot]

Just like they did to sub rogue

[sharp sierra]

Sub still has way better burst

[potent pivot]

And sub is fine

Idk where you get these ideas

But okay

There’s a reason every single awc match was played around Veins

Key take away really

Is that we are rarely key holed into playing specs we don’t want to play these days

Can hit glad as any spec in the game if that’s the spec you’re good at

[dark kernel]

Yeah just don't let tank specs hear that.

I know a particularly degenerate guy who for fun played Spriest/Hpal/prot warrior nearly to glad last season

The warrior is just CC bot and intervene bot for the other two

[last jasper]

idk, but recently I didn't feel veins to be as strong lately

when I play frost. Ppl just dont let me cast

[potent pivot]

bot? AHK? ptsd.

[potent pivot]

idk i don't play mage, just going off the awc games

so many matches people die 100-0 or 80-0

in the fmp/rmp or rmp/rmp games

[last jasper]

you are right about awc games.Just sayin how it feels for me. But when ppl do leave u alone 2mil frost bolts one after another is huge

[potent pivot]

yep

it has some sort of ramp up to it right

[last jasper]

this is the highest dam from this mage out of 6 games. And he went 4\2. fuckin insane

[sharp sierra]

Isn’t awc always rmp anyway

[potent pivot]

no

[potent pivot]

thats wild

[dark kernel]

Well that was a great mage lobby

[last jasper]

He did shit that lobby.

[dark kernel]

Your right, but he lived. That's all he has to do. 3 of the easiest melee classes for frost to kite.

[last jasper]

most wild is that we sweat so bad to make him leave. And he didn't

[last jasper]

Not sure he did good at kiting. All 4 games he tried to lock me inside the ring with glimpse off cd lol

[sharp sierra]

Is this eu? I can tell from all the special characters in the names

[last jasper]

why asking then? 😄

[jolly sierra]

what the fuck

[potent pivot]

there's no eu only characters in these screenshots .. 😅

[last jasper]

Actually true. I thought there was a russian in it. But that was a different scrsht

[sharp sierra]

They have the special characters like 4 out of 6 of em

[potent pivot]

those are used in NA too man

[sharp sierra]

Yeah I notice EU uses them more

[potent pivot]

...

[sharp sierra]

Due to ppl with acrylic keyboards and stuff I imagine

[potent pivot]

loads of ppl use them in NA

i have them in half of my names

[sharp sierra]

I never used them

[last jasper]

Em.

[sharp sierra]

Anyway they should buff unholy dk more

[last jasper]

Fuck unholy

[sharp sierra]

Y

[potent pivot]

unholy is fine

watching petkick test it rn

[sharp sierra]

What’s his take on it now

[potent pivot]

its good

[sharp sierra]

Wow

I was thinking of changing my dk to orc

From human

[last jasper]

Does pet kick ever play anything else except unholy?

[sharp sierra]

Nah why would he

Frost is less interesting

[potent pivot]

don't think so

[last jasper]

It’s good. It just doesn’t live

[potent pivot]

and xeek doesn't play anything but frost

frost is sick

[last jasper]

Yea, you can tell this by just watching him 😂

[sharp sierra]

My main gripe with frost is the 1H. I’m used to thinking that’s a tank spec

[last jasper]

Wouldn’t said that either tbh. U just die trough def cd

😂

But it’s hella fun

[sharp sierra]

They need a surv buff

Cuz I hear they’re squishier than some clothiers

What’s the word on Rdruids these days

[potent pivot]

they're good

[last jasper]

Cloth are tankier than most specs like for ages

[sharp sierra]

I might level my rdruid I just hate hotw that spell alone keeps me away

[languid ravine]

its not cloth tankier its just plate being super squishy kek

[last jasper]

Until u end up in melee lobby

[languid ravine]

yea Surv Hunter is pain you dont have much passive tank

[sharp sierra]

When’s that ever been an issue for rdruid tho

Rsham yeah

[last jasper]

Right before second go on a dk

[sharp sierra]

Yeah but if you let a frost DK get a second go and you don’t have trinket it’s your teammates fault ngl

Assuming you didn’t misplay

Plus clone is there

If you don’t clone dps as rdruid you will die fs

[last jasper]

I meant a second go on a dk.

[sharp sierra]

Isn’t that what I said

[last jasper]

no. Dk dies every second go

unless someone fcked up

in a melee lobby

[sharp sierra]

Oh you meant as the rdruid healing the DK

Yeah I kind of feel that way healing locks

They just flop no matter what

Well that does not make me want to level my dk then

[last jasper]

After mm is getting nerfed it’s not that bad

You can manage wars. Chains of ice is still op

And a spear is useless against them

[vocal surge]

Frost 1000% needed their burst nerf

[jolly sierra]

same as hunter

both deserved the bat

[vocal surge]

Frost Mage was one of the few classes able to 1 shot Disc Priests

[stoic lava]

I don't want to log on and see what they did to my poor son

[severe helm]

yeah frost had some pretty crazy burst

it just has no weaknesses right now

which is kind of a problem

[jolly sierra]

their anti cc mechanic was disgusting af

[stoic lava]

their damage is jsut too easy to get out

[dark kernel]

You know what would make green skins usable. Is if it stacked up to three times to synergize with fan the hammer but not overdo it

That way, outlaw would have a consistent damage and a burst build if you itemize towards crit and you got good Ace of your sleeve props during a subterfuge window

Imagine doing triple between the eyes, into a fan the hammer pistol shot

[last jasper]

Well, with mages nerfed we gonna witness tons of locks

[dark kernel]

Lowkey I'm okay with that

All three warlock specs are super strong though, but I can stick on them

[last jasper]

And with demo spawning the fuckin whole dungeon into arena

And prodigy bm huntards

I can only imagine how fun is to play this with no addons hiding npc nameplates

[vocal surge]

Was that after reading my spreadsheet? :3

[last jasper]

what anti cc mechanic?

[halcyon timber]

Ice form and blink ig

Only arcane has the immune one on barrier

[jolly sierra]

idk how they does that

but they can be cc inmune for some seconds

[sharp sierra]

okay. but then nerf shitty holy priest

cuz that spec puts me to sleep

[dark kernel]

LoL I just thought of it

[last jasper]

do u mean precog, lol?

oh, u mean ice form. yea, but it can be purged and replace veins. i

[halcyon timber]

Ice form can be wiped off? That’s good to know

Wonder why i don’t see healers try that then

[languid ravine]

-Queue mage
Three hunters in my lobby, one of each spec lol

[halcyon timber]

Lolol

[last jasper]

I had double mm earlier today. So there is place to grow

[halcyon timber]

Notice any difference?

Or they still slamming pretty hard?

[last jasper]

I’m not sure dispel is on their spellbar.

[halcyon timber]

Yeah i sit in roots a lot

[last jasper]

I had a game where I was in full poly into full fear and priest was running around near me

I’m about to offer a month sub if priest gonna dispel me more than once per game

[halcyon timber]

Yeah had a priest Tokyo drift fear me the other day and dumbass warrior died to SP. didn’t spell reflect jack crap or do their new roar to free our team

[last jasper]

I swear I would’ve been perma banned if I wasn’t already muted this few days

[halcyon timber]

Yeap turn off chat

[last jasper]

It’s already turned

Off

By blizz

[halcyon timber]

[languid ravine]

[✅ ] getting disarmed by a Survival Hunter as a Mage Achievement unlocked. 0,005% of all players have this Achievement

[sharp sierra]

if I play sub do I get to eat a sub sandwhich

otherwise im more into assassination

[languid ravine]

you get to make two sub sandwhiches until cycclones end

[sharp sierra]

yay

i specc'd it the other day and was like nah im good 😒

the first thought in my head "i will be terrible with this spec"

[last jasper]

I have this achi done by fellow rogue

[languid ravine]

thats a cool name for a Survival Hunter "FURY" I like it

[jolly sierra]

WHY DISARM MAGE

[sharp sierra]

anyone whos played holy priest - do you ever press 'heal' in arena/pvp?

[last jasper]

Nah, rogue disarmed me. He just didn’t get into the frame. Didn’t had time mid fight

[last jasper]

This one is the least shit trash I witness in the last few days

[jolly sierra]

oof

[last jasper]

your dm is full of this shit, lo

[jolly sierra]

rlly

i will read later

damn

[last jasper]

I don’t get it. Is this new cooldown manager ui is not customizable?

[potent pivot]

yes and no

at least from what i saw early on, you can customize parts of the appearance, but not what it tracks etc. seemed very rudimentary basically

[grave basin]

Btw he most likely disarmed the other hunter

Sv disarm has an aoe Effect

After a few seconds, sticky tar bomb explodes and disarms everyone in a radius

[gleaming pawn]

did Blizz break bounty bags today? I have participated in 3 different bounty kills and 0 bags have dropped

[dark kernel]

only did a little testing on dumby today

surprisingly with the outlaw changes....as NELF im feeling half decent on HO

KIR feels SUPER hit or miss based on dice

[stoic lava]

Feel like with super charger and 4 set KiR just has to be super mid

Your odds of hitting good rolls is so high right now naturally

[fierce lily]

was watchin trill today on outlaw and after 4 games he logged off say the cdr changes make it feel terriable right now

[stoic spruce]

Should've buffed the energy regen

It would've been fine

[severe helm]

Surprise surprise

Outlaws main mechanic nerfed by 20%

I think it was like a 12-15% nerf in the sim when I tested it

[fierce lily]

one thing many people werent realizeing when they said it was a buff more than a nerf is not it takes 5-6 more full combo point finnsher to the full cdr use and that not including all the energy wasted on ss and ambush

[severe helm]

Which will probably be more in game just due to cc and stuff

[severe helm]

Who the fuck thinks it was a buff

[fierce lily]

i heard whaazz and pal saying it buffed instead of nerfed

[stoic spruce]

Wtf

[severe helm]

That's the fastest cope

[stoic spruce]

How? Lol

[fierce lily]

dont know

[severe helm]

Yeah they're quantitatively wrong so

[fierce lily]

didnt feel like arguing it with them

[severe helm]

Nothing to argue tbh

[stoic spruce]

That might just be the most wrong thing I've ever heard in this server

[severe helm]

Hahahaha fr

[stoic spruce]

What possessed them to nerf outlaw anyway

It wasn't even a standout rogue spec

[stiff cedar]

tournament performance

[fierce lily]

cause the top 1% where winning awc with it

[severe helm]

Awc

[stoic spruce]

That's right awc is happening

[severe helm]

It beat feral druid sometimes

So it had to go

[stoic spruce]

Sickens me

[fierce lily]

arms ele is the way to go now from what ive been seening of the games on ladder

[stoic spruce]

Actually mad

An idea you come up with off the top of your head would've been a better suggestion

I would've taken another bte nerf honestly

That way your cdr and adr loop isn't entirely FUCKED

RAHHHHH

@potent pivot this is your fault

[potent pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-callouts-rogue-gif-26757787

[stoic spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/going-crazy-mr-boss-smiling-friends-freaking-out-going-wild-gif-5258506792416434328

[dark kernel]

ehh

outlaw can still pump okay

had a few shuffle rounds with 1mil dps

[stoic spruce]

ITIS. DNOT ABOITN GHE FUINNH DAMAGE

[dark kernel]

lmao

[stoic spruce]

OH OTS FONE IT PLAYS GLIKE SHIT

IST DAMAGE IS FINE

I'm about to get naked and take a dump on my bosses desk I stg

Oh dw guys

Slit pumped 1mil

RB nerf means nothing

I'm mad at blizz

[dark kernel]

That's cool man

I get it I like outlaw too

but we're going to deal with it until changes

[stoic spruce]

I'm not

I rerolled a week prior to nerfs

I'm just picking up the slack of dooming because YALL

CANT DO IT RIGHT

It's like getting a new job but your old job calls and needs your help

[vocal surge]

Funny thing

The nerf only applies to Retail Live Servers

not the AWC Tournament server

[severe helm]

LOL

[stoic spruce]

Wtf

I refuse to believe that tbh

I'm going to eat my spicy sweet chili doritos and ignore that

[hazy monolith]

so how does outlaw feel? does it make sense to gear or pass?

[vocal surge]

XD

[stoic spruce]

Noooo

I wonder if they got the buffs

[halcyon timber]

King of chips right there

[stoic spruce]

Idk why they keep trying to make new flavors

They won

They can stop now

[halcyon timber]

Next is probably dill pickled dog shit or something idk

[stoic spruce]

They have golden Sriracha

It's so bad

I never thought I'd dislike a dorito

[halcyon timber]

Def need a family bag of spicy sweet chilli

Kc masterpiece bbq by lays is also sick

[stoic spruce]

You can have mine, it's half full.

[halcyon timber]

Ha

[stoic spruce]

For now

[halcyon timber]

Saw Dr Pepper flavored slim jims. Definitely not cool.

Now a Tabasco slim jim while drinking a Dr Pepper is completely cool

[vocal surge]

yo

Val's participating

[vocal surge]

Nope

[stoic spruce]

Then wtf was the point

Ruined my doritos

[vocal surge]

It only applies to Live

[stoic lava]

I will see you in like 6 months

[stoic spruce]

There's no chance

Negative pvp mods tend to stay for a while

If not forever

[potent pivot]

They can just push the update to TR whenever they want

[vocal surge]

Ooof

[potent pivot]

All changes in the past have applied to TR competitions afaik

But since it’s separate it doesn’t have to be pushed out at the same time as live

As long as it’s done before the next cup starts etc

[grave basin]

Considering they're nerfing outlaw specifically for Awc it would make no sense for it not to be patched into TR

It would make more sense if it was a TR patch only that doesn't affect live but small indie company and all that

[low timber]

How do u guys rate rog specs for BGB atm?

[dark kernel]

All good

[stoic lava]

All 3 good

sub best for off node activities

assa insane teamfight

outlaw for off node/gimicky stuff

Sub/Assa quite a bit better

[last jasper]

Y, it’s still like that. And it seems they also removed tracking buffs in a small hp bar under the character

Weird. It tracks PvP talents but not trinkets at all

[stoic lava]

nothing is more peak thna someone flaming you after they pre-ignored you

[low timber]

i have ultimate macro for all chat mald - u mad cuz bad

[noble venture]

These outlaw nerfs weren't that bad

Just tried some target dummy stuff to compare

I am not the most optimal outlaw, but it doesn't feel like the Devil has stuck a hot iron into my nether region

[stoic lava]

it just feels slower alittle clunkier

its not horrible though

[noble venture]

At the end of the day Outlaw to me is about enabling my caster to deal giga dps

Does anyone know why pvpers are crafting "Rune Branded" items?

Surely it's the same as Algari Competitor, I can't figure it out

[stoic spruce]

Wtf is this

It feels like ass

Micro CCs will be the death of me I stg

[glass iris]

Idk in pvp and on dummies is ok

But keys i really feel the effect

[stoic spruce]

I just ran some arenas

[stoic spruce]

it was a pvp nerf

[glass iris]

oh xd i thought we were still on double coup

[stoic spruce]

oh no lol

that one sucks too though

well yall may have been but im on Restless nerf

[dark kernel]

3-3 shuffle into ret/arcane/afflock

such a cockblock

fighting with the ret is bad, fighting a strong caster WITH a ret is even worse

High Key, mages didnt get the bat hard enough. Arcane having Dragons Breath, blast wave, icewall, ring of frost mass poly and mass barrier?

what is blizzard thinking

I lost this lobby lmao

[quasi thicket]

Guys, I have a question. If I have. 629 piece does it scale to 665 in pvp? Or only the pieces that specifically say they scale to 665/675/678?

[dark kernel]

They have to say they scale

[quasi thicket]

Thank you very much!!

Appreciated it!

[glass iris]

just want to confirm

in the bg with the orbs (four orbs in the corner)

i take and hold , but don't go in middle

i just feel like in past when i've done that has given barely any points

[keen dune]

Who makes the best pvp guides for sub and stays up to date with builds?

[potent pivot]

just check murlok for builds

[keen dune]

it's quite situational id say, and can depend on the spec. Outlaw as an example can as you say kite around and be quite slippery. Sub can still be useful in mid, stunning people around you while also receiving heals

[potent pivot]

going to be hard pressed to find any guides that are up to date

[glass iris]

it's working , ty for the strat

[keen dune]

Top 10 different rogues all use different builds. But im looking for soemthing more in depth with a opener + rotation guide too

[potent pivot]

the rotation is just strike->evis or cheap->evis

don't gap stuns

upkeep rupture outside of dances

there's nothing up to date out there that i've seen

[last jasper]

Xvic on yt posted recently. At least something to start with

[glass iris]

We lost, but I was top 5 in points

[dark kernel]

Lots of rogues trying green skins out but I am not a fan

Gave it a go. It's like an extra 150k to 200k damage every so often.

[stoic spruce]

Uh

They crit for more than bte

It lands killing blows as well

@potent pivot if it werent for the RB nerf, I would've found a great cook

I may have found*

No way to know now

[gusty hedge]

funny seeing chat gpt trying cook builds been playing around with it

[spring bough]

Bro I swear I get feared like 5 times in a row and it’s like first is 7 second then 5 and so on with no DR on that shit ever

[glass iris]

so i pvped to get the pvp ring

then i pvped to gett the gem slot

but now i'm conflicted about putting in only pve gems

[spring bough]

Pretty sure you can’t put PvP gem socket item on pve gear and vice verse for the pve socket item on the AH

[glass iris]

i mean the gems themselves

[spring bough]

Oh I gotcha. Yeah they be expensive lol

[glass iris]

ah the gems too?

[spring bough]

On tich r3 gems a couple thousand gold

[glass iris]

what is it called again?

yeah ok and the socket is 15k

sorry, 20k now

[vocal surge]

Make sure to queue up for Heroic Dungeons S2 rn

Free Satchel of Cooperation

[glass iris]

what do those give you?

[vocal surge]

Augment Runes

They're worth 2.1k gold a pop

[dark kernel]

I had to whisper a priest this morning and I was very nice to him

But I had a shuffle round where I was in over a minute of cc

And he dispelled a polymorph once

[last jasper]

what the fuck is this dps from fury warrior

[potent pivot]

You haven’t seen any good furies?

They fucking slap

[last jasper]

I haven't seen furies lately at all. I mean once a day maybe

[potent pivot]

What other specs in the lobby

[last jasper]

this shit is op fr.

he slapped me in like 3-4 globals with blur up

[last jasper]

bm

[potent pivot]

Yeah so some of its pet pad

[last jasper]

yea, true. But still his dam is insane.

[potent pivot]

Yeh

[vocal surge]

Aye

[last jasper]

and I thought to give an unholy a try lol

also,who is using this class icons in blizzframes? Can't figure it out why it wont work in dungs

[dark kernel]

Fury into melee lots of uptime

[potent pivot]

https://youtu.be/8oVFzqjd164?si=ZfcwXDucVj7ch8sO

Just dropped

Peep fury’s explosion on the chart

[potent pivot]

BBF can be weird man

I can’t ever get the healer icon to show above my healer in arena

That’s like my only gripe with the addon, everything else is so perfect

But

[potent pivot]

The class icon thing is linked to friendly nameplates

Friendly nameplates work differently inside dungeons and raid

[last jasper]

I had that prob too. I dont remember how I fixed it

[potent pivot]

Blizzard has forced them to work a different way

[glass iris]

can i put an enduring blooodstone in a pve socket

[potent pivot]

Since a year or two ago

[potent pivot]

Yeah

The gem you use shouldn’t matter a socket is a socket

[glass iris]

i'm doing duos with a monk ww - what do we do against a healer/dps comp? i tried sapping and blinding healer

[last jasper]

it works in bgs/epic bgs etc. but not in dungs

[glass iris]

but it wasn't enough , we had no shot

[potent pivot]

The only thing that’s different is how you apply the socket

[last jasper]

And I would like to atleast have a tank icon.

[glass iris]

ah nice

[potent pivot]

You kinda need a healer as outlaw in 2s

[glass iris]

and we only need / can one of them right

[potent pivot]

Unless you’re both decent at pvp already

[potent pivot]

Yeah

[glass iris]

nope

we're not

[kindred cobalt]

and even then

you still want a healer

[potent pivot]

Double dps just isn’t very viable

[kindred cobalt]

other than some fringe comps

which would still be out perfomred on average by any spec and healers

[potent pivot]

Depends on the balance of the season

[last jasper]

I recall tunring everything off and only adjust in advance

[potent pivot]

Like rogue/mage (sub/fire) used to be very popular

[last jasper]

and the healer cross poped

[potent pivot]

I’ll give it a shot and copy these, thanks

[potent pivot]

Use raid markers

Or use Player maybe

But ever since blizz changed friendly nameplates idk if u can do it with any addon tbh

[last jasper]

and I removed toggles cuz it can bugged out sometimes. So I just use friendly nameplate in combat

[potent pivot]

Also - if you try unholy

Make sure u blacklist all the debuffs that don’t matter

Unholy is really unique because

It has 3 major resources

Runic power, runes, and debuff stacks

The debuff stacks are really important

I’m just learning how to play it right now

[last jasper]

u mean wounds stacks?

I dont recall having any issues with unh before tbh. But I clicked to import blacklist pvp debuffs in bbf a few days ago

[potent pivot]

Yeah

When you apply the green one it applies 3 debuffs - 2 of which are just clutter I think

It was just a pain in the ass how cluttered it was before I blacklisted a bunch of stuff

I’m curious how Sanlayn is in pvp

That’s what everyone is playing in m+ now

[last jasper]

I should check later. Cuz it was okay in default ui before and u could easily track wounds. But I haven’t played uh since df s3 I guess

[last jasper]

yea, bbf/p is prob best addon. At least for me. Removes a bunch of trash and pet nameplates plus icons for totems is huge

[potent pivot]

Yep

I don’t think there’s any addon that’s more important for pvp rn

Other than the obvious like gladius

[last jasper]

fuck an option "press and hold casting" makes ur aoe spells sometimes to be used as [@cursor]. it took me 2 days to realise what cause it

[potent pivot]

[last jasper]

Yeah, I turned it on when Whaaz was debating with Brunhity and forgot about it. I thought my Naga was broken or something, because sometimes it works fine and other times it starts auto-clicking instantly the aoe

I just turned it off and it gone

[potent pivot]

yeah i think that setting is really bad

think its okay for evoker stuff

[potent pivot]

weird

[last jasper]

yea, I pressed it 3 times and it autoclicked twice

[glass iris]

does outlaw want haste/vers in pvp like in pve?

(should i get crit/vers or haste/vers belt?)

[potent pivot]

Only up to a certain point

Around 10-15%

[glass iris]

oh

i'm at 18% :)

[potent pivot]

Idk how things are going to go now with the nerfs

Trickster is basically back to being dead

The main thing that no one is sure on is whether we keep running supercharger or if we go back to vigor

[severe helm]

Good question

I think we will

SC just synergizes so well with the tier set

Vigor is kinda dead

[vocal surge]

^

[potent pivot]

issue rn is just energy

trill was even talking about maybe running dirty tricks last night

[severe helm]

How did that get worse though

Just from losing adr uptime

?

Vigor is so painfully boring

[potent pivot]

ye

[vocal surge]

^

[dark kernel]

I absolutely detest pushing alts through 1800 bracket

this should not be allowed.

Im assuming there were no other healers available because most other people in the game had 300+ rounds played

it also makes no sense cause homie has been 2400 multiple times, must be new healer reroll

[last jasper]

nah, it just inflated

or from s1

[dark kernel]

There's no artificial inflation atm, it's just not capped MMR

Last season if you made a fresh toon near end of season you started at 2000 MMR

right now its still 1500

so the fact this guy had a druid healer with a 0-6 already and was placed into an 1830 MMR match makes 0 sense because that druid had no ranked history

easily the worst MMR bracket until you get to 1900

[last jasper]

Last season was s1. You always start at 1.5 in s1.

[last jasper]

I made a fresh war like a week ago and it was already 1.7 mmr in the very first lobby

[dark kernel]

that part is interesting

Both my rogues started at 1500 MMR this season, neither had outlaw games last season

[last jasper]

Yea, mate. I dropped my mage for like 1 week and his mmr went up for like 45-50 mmr

[vocal surge]

[dark kernel]

Honest to god, my favorite pvp talent is DFA right now.

with the nerfs, using DFA to immune precog CC is like, big

[last jasper]

like fr?

and this shit is also auto roots every 5 sec like huntrads hero talent

[fierce lily]

what addon is that

[last jasper]

sarena with omni

[spring bough]

running dirty tricks is actually good. can definitely feel the savings when u try and triple cheap the whole enemy team and still have energy left for a go

was doing it a few weeks ago running dirty tricks

[fierce lily]

but what would u drop for it thoe

@last jasper thanks

[spring bough]

i never run heavy hitter / blinding powder so i either do AOE BF talents or put the two into dirty tricks / swift slasher

[spring bough]

if you run heavy hitter. could maybe drop verse for dirty tricks too

but thats a decent loss

im gonna try this today see how it goes

was getting 1.1mil pistol shot crits on the PVP dummy just now with it lol

[dark kernel]

I tried it a bit

It's decent additional damage. But I really don't like not having count the odds

[spring bough]

been playing without it for a minute takes getting used too

ive got a gnome fury war in my first lobby....

[last jasper]

@potent pivot told'ya u'd be surprised. It doesn't prove anything, but blizz are still silence

[dark kernel]

I know this person. That's my guild mate

Funny

[last jasper]

wow

[potent pivot]

i already saw this and think its a meme lol

like some conspiracy theory copy pasta shit

[quaint cedar]

can anyone tldr this AHK thing? I missed all the drama

been seeing it in Whaaz's stream chat

[potent pivot]

certain players, even in the awc, have been using AHK-like functions of their keyboard's software to gain an edge

mostly the turbo trigger style functions that spam a button for you anywhere from 20 to 100 times per second, if you hold the button down

[quaint cedar]

Ah, I see

[spring bough]

getting 1.1mil pistol crits in arena on wars with GSW

[potent pivot]

so if someone gaps CC on you, you will 100% get a defensive or etc off in the gap, among other situations where it is an advantage

[last jasper]

I can't disagree. Looks sus. But still, when stuff like this happens, there should be an immediate response from Blizzard.

[quaint cedar]

ok, I can see why there's an issue then. Thanks for explaining

[potent pivot]

or if you're running towards someone holding down a CC, you will 100% get your CC off before the other melee

shit like that

[quaint cedar]

Yeah, so just lots of little advantages

[potent pivot]

there was also a way you could play ele shaman almost FULLY with AHK in DF

and people were called out hard for it during DF

[quaint cedar]

Oh yeah, I did hear something about that

[spring bough]

outlaw isnt dead at all lol

[quaint cedar]

You just held 1 button on your keyboard and then all you had to do was move your character around

[potent pivot]

i'm sure there's probably fire mages that use it as well since like half of their rotation is based on instant procs, etc

[potent pivot]

ye exactly

its actually kinda wild the stuff you can set it up to do

[last jasper]

Am I missing and AHK just spam or it can also do stuff like auto kick by checkin pixel color?

[potent pivot]

nah thats kick botting

that is different

[quaint cedar]

What build are you running now?

[spring bough]

@quaint cedar just ran this

trickster HO supercharger

[quaint cedar]

wtf no CTO? seems cursed

wouldn't energy be really bad outside ADR?

[potent pivot]

trickster?

[quaint cedar]

lol

[torpid bough]

Game wasnt long so energy wasnt an issue.

[last jasper]

ngl, I expect ppl to start using it if blizz cotinues to keep silence on this

[potent pivot]

yeah unfortunately its too easy to do

[quaint cedar]

is there a way to detect if the player is using AHK?

[spring bough]

not at all. pressing RTB everytime its up no matter the buffs. only time i wont press it off CD is if i have 5 buffs up with HO

and in that lobby i got a 5 roll every round

2 of the rounds back to back 5 rolls

[potent pivot]

like, from blizzard's standpoint? or players

it should be quite easy for blizzard to tell

[quaint cedar]

yeah, for blizzard

[potent pivot]

yeah

they should be able to see the inhuman speed of the inputs

[quaint cedar]

I guess you can look for unnaturally fast keypresses

yeah

[quaint cedar]

testing on training dummy right now, seems to feel good so far. I'll try it in my next shuffle

[spring bough]

1.1mil pistol crits so if thats in a FTH rip that would be what like 1.5m plus or more lol

[last jasper]

I'm surprised why it's not implemented yet. Like simply dc a player if it detects unusual hotkey press per/s

[spring bough]

DH my new alt jam. class is so ez lol

[severe helm]

Trickster has always pumped into melee cleaves

Not gonna feel great into a mage feral

[potent pivot]

It’s so fun ngl

Always thought I would hate it

Not quite as “brain off” as fury, but still pretty ungabunga

[spring bough]

im hitting like 1-3 and mouse button and maybe R for imprison and X or shift X for stun and thats about it lmao

[potent pivot]

I try to at least line up the burst windows properly n shit

EB etc

[last jasper]

@potent pivot lmao. that guy is just 😄

[potent pivot]

He’s in here sometimes