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What's tragic is how little this benefits the actual playerbase since outlaw is one of the least popular specs
its actually kind of poetic and just...well braindead that they fix the bug giving us massive CDR gains and decide to...you know go ahead and nerf our CDR as well
is there a good youtuber to watch for sin solo shuffle
shadenox
yeah this is literally just an AWC change
no one plays outlaw on ladder except for the top R1 players
I will never understood why Blizzard chooses to balance for the top handful of players instead of balancing for the entire playerbase
Aite so sim results from 20% reduced RB value assuming that also impacts cdr with true bearing up is 12.21% damage nerf
oh
that's worse than I thought
yeah that's probably unplayable then
we're already probably like 10% lower damage than most specs
now we'll be 22% lower
I can't imagine the 20% buff to pistol shot will compensate enough
But I think it will be more in pvp
and sinister buff is worthless
ss buff is non existent
yeah well in pvp we don't have full ADR uptime anyways because we get CCd a ton
buffing SS is like the dev making a blue post saying "I have no idea how outlaw works and im unqualified to make these changes"
yeah so youre gona lose 12-15% adr uptime from whatever youre at in pvp
removing enduring brawler made that most evident
yeah as soon as I saw a 20% buff to sinister I knew the changes were clueless
literally buffing auto attack damage would have been better
it feels like for pvp they want to fixate us on something like KIR Fatebound
I had a roughly 2 minute 2s game that I played before logging off today. Since I saw the nerfs I checked my damage breakdown in details.
Sinister Strike was #15 on my list of damage sources
It did 1.1% of my damage at around 900k total.
A 20% buff to that is literally useless
It's actually an insult
I think it was actually my very last damage source except for wound poison
Def an HO/fatebound angle.
even with KiR, sinister strike still barely does anything
And I'm pretty sure KiR is a lot more dependent on CDR than HO anyways
Yeah
So KiR gets hurt more I think
That's true too
Funny thing is that KiR was probably slightly better in pvp for a bit, but now that we have 4 set HO is better again
And now KiR is getting even worse
Not that it matters, pretty sure outlaw is fucked with either build after these nerfs
time to get hypercarried by my healer
idk might be time to quit for me
I don't want to go through another DF S2 (prebuff) or DF S4 (post nerf)
being that weak made the game so miserable to play
kir is dead from the restless blades change
probably unplayable
wdym?
the kir fatebound build does run HH afaik
Now we’re talking
this dragon Im playing with is in full greens and there were no pets to pad on here
i'm having a hard time deciding what to spend my conquest points on
GG time to alt rest of season thankfully already got elite lmao
Fuck blizz hating on rogues always
They really do hate us don't they
My fucking shuffle queue was just 40 minutes and I had to drop it
what the fuck man
guess no games tonight
That must be new then. I havent seen kir take hh. Maybe I just didn't notice it.
tier
Find weakness was fun sometimes
It didn't do anything but I liked tab targeting to keep FW uptime
Idk if that did anything but it was fun to do
I was sad when they took find weakness away
I get why they did it but still
Ruined 2v2 during the beginning of DF S3 for me until the armor nerfs happened
Every game was warr hpal or dk hpal and you would just auto lose because you did like half damage against them
wanna know what an AI would do for Outlaw?
Chatgpt reskins legion legendaries
Post the 📒
Between the Eyes:
Damage increased by 15%, making this ability more impactful in single-target and AoE situations.
The critical strike chance against enemies affected by Sap or Stunned has been increased by 10%.
Adrenaline Rush:
Cooldown reduced to 2 minutes (down from 3 minutes) to provide more frequent burst opportunities in extended fights.
Pistol Shot:
Damage increased by 10% across all levels of play, improving the overall output of the Outlaw Rogue’s ranged abilities.
Blade Flurry:
Blade Flurry now scales 10% more effectively with your current attack power, improving damage when engaged in multi-target scenarios.
Broadside:
Increased the damage buff from Broadside by 7%, giving Outlaw Rogues a higher damage ceiling during this proc.
Holy FUCK I miss baseline building/spending Outlaw
what ChatGPT would change for Outlaw
Adr wouldn't do that
we all know it wouldnt do that
atleast ChatGPT would buff us
Lol real
ChatGPT is friend
Praise be to ChatGPT
Blizz devs are out for our kneecaps
Blizzard going hard for that 0% outlaw pvp representation
is it worth it to get 4 set?
For which spec?
Outlaws seem to say yes
Assassins seem to be saying yes
Subtlety, dunno as guys are still testing it out
welp might be time for me to hang up the gloves .
Outlul dead.
Dmg got buffed at least, could be better
damage buff is a joke
True..
sinister strike buff is like 0.0000001% damage buff
compared to what you lose with nerfing cdr
Rogue
Outlaw
Restless Blades effectiveness reduced by 20% in PvP combat.
Sinister Strike damage increased by 20% in PvP combat.
Pistol Shot damage increased by 20% in PvP combat.

restless blades will become a meme in the end
wonder how hard PS crits now
also wtf is wrong with the frost mage cook
they nerf IV haste by 5% which is whatever,nerf the stacking,but increase frost bomb dmg and overall dmg
this is so fried
It's Time for an Outlaw rework
It's time for reasonable tuning
Prolly my last season playing outlaw in pvp depending on how this plays out. Legit most/only class played
I picked a good time to quit huh lol
hell yeah
these devs got me griefing rn
Either way stuck playing outlaw gear changes.
Also if I did bad playing sin then I'd have to accept I suck. Can't have that
Maybe if no one is left playing outlaw then blizzard will realize they fucked up and revert?
Who knows. Most people I've spoken to agree that the change is weird. Rogue is just the best vessel for mage to do their thing, and that's the issue here
Yeah I think blizzard is missing the greater issue here. Wizards are currently so OP and their kiting and CC is so oppressive that rogue and feral are the only melee that can play the game.
well mage has assa and sub to fall back on
^^^ this also
If blizzard was trying to stop RMP at the top of the ladder and in AWC, then they failed
Gutting outlaw just means the rogues switch to assa and sub and RMP will still be played
the only thing that makes sense is that they nerfed RB because of the rtb part of the 4pc
but even then
thats barely an issue
Yeah and then what happens when we lose the tier set next season?
theyre also saying they expect us to have TB with every 5 buff
How much you want to bet they don't revert the RB nerf?
Yeah that felt like a miracle lol
Problem is that went away at the start of TWW when they usually assess and remove pvp modifiers
Not sure they will get rid of the modifier next season. We might have to wait until next expac to see it gone
Just run 50% haste
Yeah the energy problem has been bothering me for a very long time
It actually keeps getting worse because now we run HO supercharger
Energy wise it's entirely propped up by ADR uptime and having so many active RTB buffs
time to play BM since they not nerfed
i was just tired of getting kicked by 1600 teams who line me behind a pillar to their death and kick me after
"ur trash"
then proceed to win 200 mmr higher with another group
but then they only queue a few matches
yeh thats just kinda how it is working your way up in 3s
it can be a slog of a grind
yeah but
I've played arena for a while and its never been this bad with ppl just kicking
but asking for xp you don't have on your lfg isn't gonna help
if you don't have said xp
yeah its a joke and its supposed to get those ppl mad
hence ppl signing up "ur treash1!!!"
yeah lol. Im serious tho I havent played every xpac a ton lately but Ive never seen ppl just kick me after 1 loss when it was 100% their fault
last night it was "u didn teven hex once!!"
and they were over extended dying the whole game
some people are just like that
and expect me to waste time to hex
bad players don't know how to play so like
no not SOME people they are allllll over
they don't know how bad they are
the worst part is they blame others
i would try to get some homies to learn with
most ppl who are bad are not bad cuz of a skill issue. Its 100% always an attitude problem
like join a more pvp focused guild
and find some chill mates with similar xp that want to learn too
usually solves the leaving/kicking/lfg sitting
how do you get 3500 xp lmao
skill
its so outlandishly unreasonable
idk where those are tbh do they even exist
ye they exist
there's usually at least 1 on decent sized realms
there's a ton of them on Tichondrius
thats the point lol. Its satire for the average neckbeard loser who puts "mglad players lf similar xp on fresh alt toons"
yeah I see that all the time
idk how that works
"multiglad" yet negative with 500 games played at 1650
doesn't everyone check-pvp people in lfg
yeah but
good question
ah
^^^
true
my one friend who plays this game with me
now we dont invite ppl who say "mglad"
because they're legit worse than a 1600 cr 1750 xp player
so we just go off cr now
mfw I smoke a 2900xp player in 2v2
tbf
2-1 win loss
It really is the opposite these days. CR means more than XP i hate to say it
yeee
every single person who has mglad in their xp is a SL s2 glad and maybe 1 other poverty season
^
Thats why after a lock ports behind a pillar while dying and I'm in CC they rage in chat and are like 'LOL IM 2800XP UR TRASH'
and sl s2 is hot shit rival trash
I'm like dude im talking about what you did there IN THE MATCH JUST NOW
I dont care that you were 213912349123912 XP
big
like the ego boost is real
Me and my healer had to go through a self evaluation because our ego went through the roof after W3
I just make fun of them cuz its just a game and if we lose then leave group
and grow up
yeee
cant wait to try to find 3s games
lol
where at
the boomy that has mglad is at least a 12x glad
rsham lf 3s must be 3500
lok
meh not high enough for my group. sorry pal
im a 10x duelist
were u the rogue?
id do some
i wanna get my 1800 mog on my main sham
i was like 1730 the other day
but then we lost when we invited "mglad xp" player
Ooof
I remember while climbing 2s
smoking 2700xp BM Hunters
but they were playing like it was 1200 rated
in reality, the formula you gotta use is take their XP divide by their CR and multiply by 700 to get their actual potential rating
so 3k xp = 3000/1500 *700 = 1400 CR
My potential rating is 700
Is that good or bad lol
thats actually just a specially applied formula for the ppl in LFG saying "mglad xpp"
have yall WQs been bugged for the world pvp? i just did one and now its showing i can do it again lol
but i go there and get 0 credit lol
do u guys think this is good enough?>
BM fun asf with this new pack leader and having tons more pets lol
anything below 500 APM in Starcraft is a nono
hmmm, figured. Rejected them already anyway
BM on blitz is a cheat code
im standing off the hill on blood elf tower not being seen just wrecking people lol
I remember I got owned by a BM and he walked in a perfect 180° degrees angle away from me, true god gamer
for 20 seconds straight
im wrecking this BM stuff rn i need a new wep then the dmg goes way up lol
this passive boars charge does milly crits lmao
bout to faction swap to ally if i lose one more war crate
how are we in the year 2025 and we are still losing rating in solo shuffle if you get stuck with the guy who loses every round and then quits
lost 20 mmr from a 1-2 because hpal quit and I was stuck with him the first 2 rounds
-enter blitz: Katmogu Temple
-get rooted for 5 seconds
-whew finally I can move lets gooo
-checks raidframes, three people in my team are already dead
-Hunter thinks we lose because nobody picks Orbs
get ur rounds in before we cant play tuesday lmao
BM top dmg every blitz lol
yeah that's what I'm doing
what really sucks is that I was waiting for 4 set to push shuffle because I thought outlaw felt like crap without it
and I just got it this week
and we got nerfed
I hate blizzard so much
hunter OP confirmed
Smashing space bar gives them more black arrow procs and summons extra boars
everyone is pack leader now no more black arrow thank god lol
BM, ele, and frost mage all press space bar more than their rotational abilities
Ele definitely commits war crimes with spacebar game play xD
Sat in a root last night and watched 4th of July spectacular with the blue angels fly over as an ele destroyed 2 team mates in several lobbies tbh
watching val get ran over by the move, oof
Forgot they were on already, gotta tune in
Val said in his stream before the games started that he thinks outlaw will still be okay
hope he's right
I think this is his first AWC right?
I'm just catching up on the games now, was shuffling during them
It’ll probably be “okay” but I don’t think that’s why people are upset
Such an unnecessary nerf
Then just buffing generators as if that compensates it is hilarious
You’re losing 1-1.4 seconds of CDR per finisher
Oh I know
It's insulting really
I've complained about this before. Blizzard always does the most fried nerfs for outlaw
They nerf the gameplay loop instead of targetting the actual problems
I think most general rogue changes in the past couple years have been fried
Nerf after nerf after nerf
I'm assuming these changes are being made because of the tier set....so nerf the tier set maybe? Why Restless Blades? That's our base kit
Yeah, agreed
I think rogue players dread patch notes the most
Usually never good news for us
Yeah
I'm still waiting for cheap shot to get nuked
I feel it's coming someday
At that point the rogue playstyle will basically be dead
Because we'll just be ferals without cyclone and less damage
Cheap shot carries the class so hard
It’s just kinda crazy to me
One of the least played classes in the game
Keeps copping fried changes
More and more diehard rogue mains quit the game or the class
Yeah I mean look at this
2100+
All 3 rogue specs in the bottom half
That's crazy for pvp. Rogue is always thought of as THE pvp class
And so few are playing it
In pve it's even worse
I know
It doesn’t fit any sort of niche nowadays
If they didn’t give us a pseudo raid buff imagine how bad the player count would look
Oh yeah I forgot we had one of those because I don't do pve
Rogue used to be a staple of M+ too, and now no one plays it there
Our CC is actually terrible for pve
all single target
Rogue is better in m+ than havoc for example right now, havoc representation is abysmal
But I get invited to keys faster on my DH

lol
Yeah, that makes sense
Honestly rogue has really reached the point where in most cases the juice isn't worth the squeeze
too much effort for not enough reward
Getting there for sure
It’s wild how easy it is to climb on other classes
Yeah
Like just from a shuffle standpoint
Going from evoker to rogue pretty eye opening
Last season I yolo played some feral to 2000 in shuffle with 0 clue what I was doing
But the damage is so free
being able to hide like this on BGs as a hunt is so stupid lol
and can get traps and everything up there lmao
and that spec was expected to be the hardest
what happened lol
blizz made it way too easy
just cleave bleeds everywhere and don't die
wait until incarn
win
day 1 already got 4 set on the BM still no wep lol
War, hunt, evoker, dh, mage. Pretty much press damage rotation
Someone watching AWC? How was Kalvish with sub?
Think he got ran over by drake / prev
Drake played feral?
and nerfs that dont actually do anything about makin awc the "rogue show"
FMP been stomping the RMPs anyway usually

^
Yeah, Feral is the new rogue
Even echo lost a series to fmp
Right now samiyam on frost mage was completely destroyed by warrior 😄
yeah but just barely
Next changes probably wednesday or sooner? Cause I feel like they made changes based on yesterdays eu series
they don't really make changes based solely on competitions
we might not see more changes for weeks though
the past couple AWCs they made changes the week before and the beginning week, then we didn't see much of anything until after AWC was over
Maybe I learn assa and play the very ethical brain off assa aff
Yea tab targeting is so fun
Not saying Assa isnt easy but out of the classes/specs I have played BM Hunter, Fury Warrior, Frost DK and Dev Evoker have been the actual brain off things I have played
dev especially
its so funny you originally had to type "advanced" before picking evoker
which is such a meme
lol yeah
To be fair I only played Dev evoker on beta but it still is basically a mobile game rotation spec
Do you expect new class with the Midnight release?
I dont think so we get housing instead
I could be wrong though but I believe we dont
Didn’t read a single word about housing yet, does it seem promising?
It looks decent
They did like a bnet article on it with a video
that I saw might still be on the launcher
Will rogues be able to steal furniture from other houses?
lol that would be funny but I doubt it
For me personally I will do the house thing and engage shuffle arenas other pvp and mythic plus per the usual if they did have that steal furniture option
so basically I wouldnt steal the furniture
#roguescanthavenicethings
I could see us maybe getting a 3rd spec for DH
void themed or something
BM with a conq wep just slaps so much dmg its not even funny lol
i see there some guidance on pve builds, where do you guys go for pvp builds?
I'll never understand blizzard tuning. Why do the easiest specs do the most damage?
We're finally going to see some warlock madness
All 3 lock specs are S tier and we're only now seeing it in AWC
i spam 1 and spam mouse button thats it GG
whats our opener look like for sub bois ?
do i build up the night elf rogue as sub or sin since outlaw is shot
Not another elf in the roster
Plus for some reason lots or sub rogues just run orc, human and I start to see gnomes as newest trend of sub rogues
Sub really doesn't benefit from meld like the other specs because gaining another subterfuge window with no modifiers means nothing
Considering most subs are not taking subterfuge
I don't know necessarily what people are playing. I expect tea, supercharger
I m eating 3.5mil aimed shots left and right
glad they buffed it
100 to 0 in two seconds with Icy fortitude up
Havoc rep is also limited to two races so it'd probably be a lot higher
have you seen the vdh rep though
I was having so much fun on my Frost DK, even got to 2400 blitz mmr and then the game decides to put me in the trash team 5 times in a row and now I m back to 1800 mmr lobotomy lobbies
Bouta sneeze
hey im a bit confused, whats the point of upgrading pvp gear if it already increases to 675 ilvl when in pvp ?
PvE use
Ripp
Is slaughterhouse overpowered
@potent pivot Hey boss, how's tier set exp this week
seems pretty good so far
Does assa take 4pc?
think so
I fuckin hate the outlaw channel
I think that's how blizz keeps getting a hold of me
They're all paid by the Rothschilds to keep me on rogue
I dunno if it's right but I open with gouge, kidney, cd's, s.strike, rupture, s.strike, s.tech, re symbols, cheap, evis, cheap, evis
I just don't like opponents responding, feel like opening with s.strike just leads to they use defensive right away. But gouge opener only works solo or with someone who doesn't break it
If you world pvping, you can actually get away with flag into gouge at the start lol
I know it's terrible but it catches people off guard
Anyone have a World pvp drop tracking addon that tracks the crate? Was wanting to hunt those sitting in a queue but the one I found Warcratetracker doesnt even work lol
there's a weakaura that can alert you to spawns in your zone
you can't really farm every zone without a group going that is using the proper addon
and queuing while in one of those groups can fuck up their shards which fucks up their spawns
ok so there really isnt one that tracks it in every zone
Thanks I will chalk it up to another trade chat troll liar
there is a way
but you can't properly do it on your own
An alert for TWW Warmode Supply Crates, this was made from DizzyHarris#1340's Weakaura - https://wago.io/KN2S9U0ub.
this WA will alert you if one spawns in your current zone
Well Thanks
I've actually been farming crates over the past few days, it's not 100% precise, but it's almost always 18min between announcements
if done properly with a group, yes
if you're afking in 1 zone while queuing, your shard can change when you go into/leave an instance, which means you'll zone back into a different shard with a different spawn timer
Ah, didn't think of that. I was basically afk doing housework, and I'd walk back to my PC at the 16min mark and wait 2min, then repeat.
So, I guess I never swapped shards.
Those are not the crates that give the socket thingies, right
no
The War Supply Crates that drop 150 honor and 60 conquest that you can farm.
unbound spoils. havent seen one since s1
i wish you could do something like [@cursor/healer] for a macro and just auto throw the frost trap at the healer
missing way too many frost traps cause my aim is shit LMAO
would make hunters a cheat code if that was a thing
elite set locked on rogue and hunter. what class to do next lol,
Dk!
DK or DH is my thought
already have the DH honor geared so might lean to that. plus glaive mog with tier 3 its like ima OG rogue again
confirmed DH and BM is op even in greens
monk
but it doesn't track in each zone right away. it just tracks cd after it drops
if u force defensive just by s.strike on them its a win. I just usually pre feint for the upcoming cc and that's it. Or play trickster
A legit never thought of this and I kind of want to level a demon hunter now
I'm 5/8 tier 3 atm
Fuck I need to farm the other glaive
Our rogues are the exact same rating in blitz lol. Assuming that’s your rogue
Vaanncleef yeah
Then wait for timewalk cause u gotta clear illidan on it
Yeah but it's probably just way faster to run the dungeon on 100 alts now that mogs are cross character
Don't need it to drop on a specific char
Glaives are also not super low drop rate anyway
I think you need both on one char for the achievement? Then the DH has to clear timewalk BT
Oh that's balls
Bm and dh players
DH bro I fel rush in slap some buttons and someone dies
Have like a whole bar not used 😂
Man I honestly believe it
there's a DH in my guild who has his entire hotkeys of damage spells bound to his naga side buttons
and he just rolls his thumb across them
hits duelist every season in shuffle and 2s
I feel dumb rn
but to be real, 12 isn't enough. Unless you just do pve rotation
Watching the AWC?
prolly im gonna be muted again
?
are u watching the AWC
its an arena thing
streamed right now
finals
right now
Ya, it can’t be actual finals rn tho
Awc is like a month long thing
But yeah why
coz its pvp and its fun and interesting idk
echo put Merce on his fury instead of rmp
Whaazz benched
They lost a series last week
exactly what i wanted to point out
they either keeping it for a ''surprise mfker'' type of thing
or idk
I think they were just unprepared
Whaazz talked about feral before awc started, seemed like they thought rmp was better
Incoming tuning isn’t gonna help either
Either they will swap to feral or sub I bet
Sub will be a thing for sure
feral as well
i think we are into kitty cleave vs sub rmp
He's been playing feral LITERALLY every day, to not play it is wha
Prolly practicing for later in the comp
meanwhile Whaazz rocks on the pirate

games so close any mage could flop anytime from the dmg
raiku does way more dmg than thesia though
think thats the difference
its a DH all day sunday type of day
trying to find piles of dirt in Azj is so annoying
I get to start my sub gear and will have my outlaw sets done next week
Rmp lost in finals 😂
Just a meme. Rmp lost to another Rmp
Damn, echo lost a cup is huge
with mehh
whats the best full set to farm for DH
the ones from legion
tombs is sick i dont like the dress tho lmao
what bout nighthold one?
ehhh
the current elite sets pretty good too ngl
try em
i will go pally to push tho
after rog
already 1600 on DH lol
same lol
im pretty mild in gear
just hit cap on bloody tokens got 3k conq to go
ret might be my next. that set is dope too
whats the wowhead link for that lol
pretty regal in colors
i removed the god awful shoulders
alright, i am full honor w the ret
time to go SS
i can go w the bloody token wep for now
you can also use the newer legs from the bloodhunter set
instead of the warbear woolies
looks decent
the boots are like 40k on the AH
and the chest is just legion dungeon chest
I wish I had the Shadowlands knives backs
the one in that mog is very easy to get
just need someone to spawn the rare for u
Was rooting for Brunhity since he won that unofficial solo shuffle tourny
guys what u farm (for gold) when u sit in queue as rog? (except herb/mine cuz i farm it on druid queue)
nice
pally OP confirmed
and less than onlyfangs raid stream or something like that lol
15k sounds low, but still more than I would expect. AWC viewership has been dropping off more and more as more players stop caring
its been rising tho
at least since the lows of sl
I'm sure The Move being gutted has removed a good chunk
DH tanking fun as hell waiting for solo ques lol
ight lads
new gpu today
my gpu killed itself last night time to see how this one rides
1660 to a 3060
Man if pika just took his viewership momentum and hyped up awc, I wonder how it would be
I’m gonna paint Dazeds face on my face
fury war might be getting added to my alt list lol
do fury wars get enough wep tokens for DW 2hs or nah
Yes you get 2 2h
I'm perpetually in "disappointment"
Real
how dead is outlaw next reset?
Idk about dead but it'll be pretty rough
Pray you don't get micro CCd out of your adr loop
damn just leveld another one
do we know if 4pc is worth it yet? assa
Yes
which pieces in particular? do we know?
people are still cloaking my bleeds. is there some new ability im missing?
Are they dwarf?
no, its all races
Same just like I am at the market
And what healer are they running with
its in all contexts -- even 1v1
unless theyre just cloaking as a reflex. but it doesnt seem like it?
no
its not removing the bleeds anymore so idk what theyre doing
And its rogues doing it?
whats happening to outlaw next patch
DID I MISS SOMETHING
restless blades reduced by 20% what the HELLLL
😱
sinister strike damage buff is ltierally nothing
pistol shot buff is like slightly something
crazy though
if im playing deathstalker do i always have to open with ambush or does subterfuge count as an ambush from stealth for getting the mark?
Pistol shot crits are higher than bte
The ps buff is actually great. Unfortunately it's overshadowed by the ridiculousness of restless blades nerf
Assuming you're playing gsw
Which honestly at this point why not
It's been worth
Ever since SC really
Dropped count the odds for it since you took loaded dice and rerolled on cooldown
about a 12-15% dps loss due to the cdr nerf
not to mention the control loss from how many fewer vanishes youll get
if ive never pvped before and just ooga booga run at people how likely am i to be able to get elite transmog
oh i need to change name back
depends which spec you play
well i have equal experience with all of them in pvp
Assa ooga booga m+ bleed all ez
that being 0
Just imagine it's an m+ pack of 3 mob
I'm not saying it's bad. I'm saying objectively it lost value.
i can do that
And gsw now has more value
Imagine spending all this time crafting a very specific playstyle only to nerf the thing that makes the spec as a whole tick.
Does Sub run 4 set?
if so what piece do I not get?
I'm about to buy a helm, and I'm wondering if I should go for the gladiator one to convert to tier, or craft the crafted one so I can up my mastery
If I had to guess I'm think no 4 set, go for 2 set Shoulders/Chest?
no chance tbh
maybe outlaw will get so bad I can just camp my CR and still get rank 1
yeah outlaw still has the mega bte/crackshot nerf
bte crit only does double damage in pvp
instead of 4x
like in pve lol
smoge
needa cook up a new build
actually so sad outlaw feels so nice to play right now
But that 20% Sinister Strike buff 
im hearing outlaw streamers using the term Cabal or Kabal? anyone knows what that could mean?
cabal is just a blitz term
What does it mean?:
a meme about people throwing games for other people in an organized way
A Cabal literally is a secret political faction
its often spelled as Kabal though cuz the joke kinda centers around one of the players Kepala
blitz community is small
Oooooo okay haha
just a meme amongst friends/players
the shadow government
looks like it, no gloves
It’s not
They’re talking about Kalvish and his friend group
It’s mostly for the memes
Yeah
Subterfuge counts
Thanks.
depression /acceptance

How do I edit these frames to be bigger and change their position? Edit mode isn't letting me select them.
get Gladius(Bicmex version)
to just get rid of the blizzard version of them
or
BattleGroundEnemies
for BGs
Had guild RBGs last night and we actually got an insta queue
Needless to say....those poor shmucks hehe
Those are boss frames
In BGs they show the flag carrier etc
fckin Blizzard. I opened a ticket twice with an appeal and asked how long my mute is going to last. They responded both times by just copy-pasting the code of conduct link.
Tomorrow's reset I'll get to be full 675/678 on both toons including trinkets
Tokens go to sub offset.
Feels good
you should've gotten an email that says
"Here's a picture of my butthole"
-Blizzard intern 627
But there is no picture because they're an intern and forgot to add it to the email
I did, but it didn’t say for how long—just that my account is muted.
And a link to an article that says the mute duration stacks each time or can lead to a perma
the main problem is that I can't even join any lfg grp cuz of it.
Yeah im glad I just turned chat off man.
Kinda huge nerf to pve player.
I had to afk out of a shuffle last night, but managed to before anyone lost a game
Hope bliz doesn't do shit to me for that
I mean, just bloody tell me for how long. Its not that hard
1009% but yeah, i aint getting baited into crap solely for those reasons
Because hee haw and the fuck around gang want to do cute shit reporting you
Kinda like at my grad school, I get in shit for speaking up or blowing up on jackasses but it is cool that they are disruptive af and act like turds in a pickle jar .
I recall like 7years ago or so (before I even start playing wow) I played hots and I was drunk (lol). And I endup with a mute the next day. I opened an appeal and gm literally showed me a pic with my chat 😄 the mute was like for a 2 days or so
Lol
Yeah get on ye ol trash talking elixers and wake up to a ban. Ill pass ha
Get slick out the mouth looking like that
Lolol first I heard it was blitz
Cuz everyone is talking about win trading in blitz all the time
People say cabal every other game lol
Makes sense though kalvish would have the same
Yeah it's a joke because of metaphors Twitter bitching
Essentially that Kalvish and friends essentially spam so many games that with less than 100 rank 1 slots per season, they pseudo dictate who gets and doesn't get rank 1 each season
lmao
i must have missed a queue thingy?
why this shit isn't showing shit for almost a wekk
Yeah q skirn
update details
ah it's set to no volume if in background
i missed again 🤦♂️
any advice on finding a group i can 10v10 with?
updated, reinstalled i even removed the files of it
q blitz
Weird, I heard it was fixed with the latest update
ur details is working fine?
I haven’t checked
Just heard it was supposed to be fixed
Because it was broken for a while
It’s so annoying. Idk why
The rated battlegrounds bracket pretty much is dead. I played it last night a little, but there's unironically about 4 teams playing.
ah i was hoping for a way around this
Q with a healer for faster qs
oh you don't have to be alone to queue?
You seem to be new to an exceptional level. You should probably explore a lot of the pvp content in the unrated section for a bit
can you check pls, when u get into the game.
idk if ill do any pvp today or not
gonna knock out some random pve stuff before reset
I think it should show even on a dummy
on cc received?
Nah unrated is pointless and often a lot more sweaty too lol
cc done. But both these scripts are currently bugged
doesn't seem to be working no
Tnx. I can relax than. Cuz I had a thought to remove it one more time
silvershard? Generally you have two groups: Team fight and off carts. Off carts is usually 3 people and they play for the top two carts which are referred to as "mid" and "top" and teh team fight group tends to play for "lava" which is the bottom cart. The bottom cart has the shortest path which is why you want to put most of your people there. Thats kinda the general strategy. Main things to watch for is the cart timing to see which carts are soon to cap and prioritize being there for those if youre on off carts
I haven't done any rated yet, maybe that's why - but none of the groups i 've been in have had this kind of coordination
Bunch of fingerless muffins like to play is why. They refuse to think then blame rogue for X
Can spotters marking people also ignore LOS for a duration? i haven’t read their whole tree though.
They are competing for space bar smashing world champion too lately
If remember it right, only under volley they can ignore los. And I dont remeber if there was a volley, but at least it should've been in my recap
Sadly, I didn't have my instant replay turned on, because I was literally in the middle of the pillar and he was behind it
4.5mil with blur jesus...
I dunno man, def that and maybe some other stuff.
Spotters mark does not allow you to ignore LOS
yea, only when u on volley and if they spec'ed into it
Cool then there you go.
Just the little bird who swoops down and shits on your shoulder before stunning you
and since he had 4.5 double tap with 20%dr this was true shot and not volley. the only thing how tf he did it throught pillar
Thanks got they gonna reroll this reset
Why would they reroll?
Genuine question as i dunno how hard they are getting popped as I do not speak hunter either
Their burst is going to be nerfed so I expect them to reroll
bm.
lmao
which is even more idiotic
1h later and whazz still debating about brunhity using AHK yesterday
oh he is actually debating with brunhity rn
Really you can’t find the volley here?
lmao
It’s literally the first tick of damage you took, when did you give up on trying to find the volley lol
And then 2 more times after that
But still not sure I still was in aoe of it. cuz I losed him like before pressing blur
and I fel rushed around pillar
I mean were at maldraxus and pillars there are quite big.
It might have been in the air before you blurred I forget if aimed shot ignores drs like that
and we were fighting like between two pillars and I just fel rushed at the end behind one
And pressed blur cuz I was like still losing hp cuz of dots (at least I thought that)
It should've ticked once at the if I still were in aoe of it
weird
I guess all projectiles ignores drs mid air. So you prob right here
Juicy awc cheater drama
EU teams caught cheating 
Did someone test 2 set vs 4 set on assa?
Yeah, 4set looking good
Isn’t it forcing bigger usage of envenom like in PVE?
Not really
You should be casting envenom some either way
Envenom keeps up Slice n Dice and consumes Darkest Night etc
yea. the best part is blizzard dont give a shit
I would be surprised if nothing happens after this
I still dont get what actually happend. did he ahk or some other stuff
Bare minimum they re announce that it IS considered cheating
you would be surprised
at least my money on that
AHK yes, but through keyboard software
(and I am the guy who bought btc at 82 yesterday lmao)
okay, and how it can affect rogue gameplay?
I get when its a priest or something like this
It can affect every specs gameplay
It's like automating your dps rotation to make it easy
That’s not what it is no
Imagine you can just mash keys to do max dpa
It technically can be
It can be sure whatever
No, they are debating about not smashing it 100x times but just press and hold
We’re talking about what some people are doing in awc rn
Basically you press and hold any button and it presses the button like every millisecond
Yeah I can see that and as outlaw it will perfectly hit when the gcd comes up
So you land CC before someone else that is also spamming their CC button
It’s less about the gcd
Im surprised it wouldn't cause game crashes
So is it actually against the rules or not?
Yes
And brunhity actually admitted he was using keyboard software?
No
Cuz he was trying to explain but I had a shuff pop and missed
What’s actuation?
Like where the button activates the key press
Oh, whooting like
Yeah like
U can make ur buttons activate when pressed all the way down, halfway down, or only on release etc
Yeah I know. Didn’t know it is called like that
Yeah
Okay, why whazz was pointing he was using ahk
Actuation point stuff isn’t against the rules
Because many people have accused him of using it
And his team used it blatantly on stream
Ye, I know. I watched a few vids when played cs. There was a drama about it too
Like brun’s healer Jayyti was using it
Oh, so they were using but you can’t confirm if it was during awc?
It was pretty obvious that the healer was
During awc
Haven’t seen bruns or the mages POV so can’t speak on it
But many people that face them have been saying they all are using it
Sooo. Then there should be some kind of punishment for it
Basically
If he actually was using during stream
I don’t think they’re the only team either
At least they can be punished for it
I think there’s at least 2 awc teams on eu doing it
Blizzard can check their inputs
But my bet blizzard would let it slide
Well
It’s actually insane there isn’t a system for it already in WoW
They made an announcement about AHK to awc players
In 2023
Because many were using it
Including Chan and Merce
lol
That’s gonna be nuts if blizzard just slap them with disc after that
But I really doubt
i think they will at least reiterate that it is against the rules
and everyone will stop using it
But I’m not sure echo lost cus if it also
there's no way they don't reiterate it after all of this drama
Yea. Pretty sure that’s what gonna happen
even if they only reiterate it inside of the awc discord for the players
but honestly
they need to crackdown on cheating in pvp on live so bad
win trading, AHK, kick bots, full on pvp bots, etc
I agree
But this is blizzard
And that’s why PvP is losing players. At least part of it
Make the players play on Lan again without add-ons
Good ol days
People used to time trinkets with in-game stop watch
No DR tracking
its so easy to enable too
20 presses per second
so basically you can hold the button
and
say you are stunned, you can hold down your defensive, and if the CC gaps you will cast the defensive 100%
thats kinda broken
Orc rogue in sub v sub
Enters chat
this is fucking insane. In the past 3 days all my alst just scyrocket -300 rating lol
lol. I misstook this option with hypershift 😄
I just moved def cds to my mouse. should've turn it on. tnx 
done
yea, tell this to whazz 😄
wtf is the point in macroing Glide to blade dance btw
in case knockback during bd
it wont jump unless u in mid air
No, if u get knockbacked and u press bd it would negate it. ppl usually knockback right after essence brake or right before bd
so just being in the air from the knock is what lets u cast the glide?
yep
ahh
thats a lot easier than what i was thinking
so you can just spam ur BD bind for the entire cast of the BD and it will auto glide if u get knocked
or u can just press bd again isntead of mashing space. But I used to smash space
sec, shuff pop

and can't even tell him to visit a doctor
lmao
they just came back to me thinking im afk
Yea, its quite good rn.
I should just spec into my own cleanse. these guys are big brains to press it
good old /stopwatch 25 for kidneys I miss you
F those days
Druids don’t have cc man wym
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
and i can't get to him cuz im constasntly rooted or slowed

i have learned that
actually
as a matter of fact
DHs are our homies
just not the edge lord slur spamming ones
lmao and I won
wdym?





